WEBVTT - DAV Hour 2

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to WRKO's annual Radiothon to benefit disabled American veterans,

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Massachusetts. This hour is brought to you by

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<v Speaker 1>Brighton One. If you want to donate, please call 978- 632-1985, 978-632-1985,

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<v Speaker 1>or visit DAV5K. Boston, DAV, the number 5, K.Boston. And joining

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<v Speaker 1>me now on the phone, a man who needs no introduction.

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<v Speaker 1>We've had him on every single year. Incredibly generous guy. massive,

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<v Speaker 1>huge supporter of disabled American veterans, world-renowned chef Paul Wahlberg,

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<v Speaker 1>co-founder of Wahlburgers, executive chef, co-founder of Alma Nove in Hingham,

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<v Speaker 1>longtime friend, as I said, huge supporter of the DAV,

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Massachusetts. Paul, as always, welcome. How are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good, Jeff. How are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Not bad. Not bad. We're raising some money. I'm hoping

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to raise a little bit more. We already

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<v Speaker 1>started bidding on that wonderful dinner at Almanove that you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be obviously there. And for eight people, world class.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling people you're even throwing in the wine. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is going to be an all out meal.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great. First of all, thank you for having me on.

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<v Speaker 2>We love supporting the DAV. It's so important to say

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<v Speaker 2>thank you to all of our veterans and all of

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<v Speaker 2>the work that you do. It's such an amazing thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry I couldn't be there live, but I'm working

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<v Speaker 2>down in Florida. But I wanted to call in and just, again,

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<v Speaker 2>say thank you to everybody that helps support and love

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<v Speaker 2>being part of the Radiothon. And it's just such a

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<v Speaker 2>great thing. And the dinner is going to be amazing

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<v Speaker 2>as we try to do such an amazing job. The

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<v Speaker 2>team really tries to make it special for everyone. We

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<v Speaker 2>do six courses. We start you with a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of an appetizer when you walk in, a little salumi platter.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we sit down, we do six courses from,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, some sort of appetizer all the way to dessert.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a great time. And we will design the menu

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<v Speaker 2>around what your likes are. And, you know, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>it's a great event for a great cause. So we

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<v Speaker 2>just love doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Paul, I'm going to be brutally honest with you. Every

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<v Speaker 1>year I either get emails or phone calls. From people,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, who bid and then successfully won this dinner,

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<v Speaker 1>and they've told me repeatedly, it is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>finest dining experiences they and their families have ever had.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we just need to get out more, so.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to tip my hat off to you. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you throw an incredible dinner. Okay, bids now at $ 1, 500. Please,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to be bidding all day for eight people.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an absolute, I'm telling you, it's a steal. Call now, 978-632-1985.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get that up to $ 2, 000, $ 3, 000, $ 4, 000, $ 5, 000. Bidding

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be open until noon. Paul, I've got

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<v Speaker 1>to ask you, and if I'm getting too personal, please

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<v Speaker 1>tell me. why is supporting disabled veterans so important to

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<v Speaker 1>you and your family? You're obviously a very successful man and, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>your family has been very successful. Why are veterans so

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<v Speaker 1>important to you and your family?

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<v Speaker 2>It's just something that, you know, my parents, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>taught us, you know, my dad was, um, uh, he

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<v Speaker 2>was in Germany at the end of world war two. And, um,

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<v Speaker 2>And so for him, he saw what things were like

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<v Speaker 2>and the commitment that people make. And so he always

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<v Speaker 2>made it very clear to us that we needed to

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<v Speaker 2>support that and say thank you to every veteran. And again,

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<v Speaker 2>we grew up in that era where most people had served.

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<v Speaker 2>Most of the people that you would run into had

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<v Speaker 2>served either in World War II, then into Korea, and

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<v Speaker 2>then Vietnam. And so that thing was always there for us. And,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, gratitude is something that's very important to all

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<v Speaker 2>of us in saying thank you. And the commitment that

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<v Speaker 2>people make and, you know, and then the sacrifices they

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<v Speaker 2>make to make our lives possible. You know, you have

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<v Speaker 2>to acknowledge that every single day.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Paul, we were all talking here. Bob Lynch

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<v Speaker 1>and Dan Stack are right beside me. And this came

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<v Speaker 1>from them.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep better company. That Bob Lynch guy, you know how

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<v Speaker 2>he can be.

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<v Speaker 1>They're all saying what a big heart you have, and

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<v Speaker 1>you do have a huge heart. Paul, I can't thank

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<v Speaker 1>you enough. I know you're very busy down there in Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>and I appreciate you calling in. Please, this is an incredible,

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<v Speaker 1>incredible opportunity and event. It's a private dinner. with Paul

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<v Speaker 1>Wahlberg and his team at Alma Nove in Hingham. Please

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<v Speaker 1>bid now, bid high, 978-632-1985. Paul, I want to thank

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<v Speaker 1>you once again for all your support to Disabled American Veterans.

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<v Speaker 1>And honestly, you're a great patriot. Please.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I greatly appreciate that. And you're sitting with two

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<v Speaker 2>of the best people right now. When you're sitting there

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<v Speaker 2>with Dan and Bob, they really make things happen. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so proud to be associated with them.

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<v Speaker 1>Take care of yourself. Paul, God bless you. And thank

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<v Speaker 1>you once again. Paul Wahlberg, my friends. He is the chef,

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<v Speaker 1>world-renowned chef, executive chef, co-founder of Alma Nove in Hingham,

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<v Speaker 1>a longtime friend, huge supporter of the DAV Department of Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 1>He's obviously also the co-founder of Wahlburgers. OK, Sandy, do

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<v Speaker 1>we go to Raymond Pratt now or do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to wait till after the break? We'll go after the break. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Another very special guest, Raymond Pratt. We're going to have

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<v Speaker 1>him on right after this break. Please, my friends, it's

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<v Speaker 1>story after story of selflessness, bravery, courage, patriotism, dedication, sacrifice.

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<v Speaker 1>They were there for us. For our freedoms, our liberties,

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<v Speaker 1>defending our great country, let's now be there for them,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you can give. Call now, 978-632-1985. Every call, every donation,

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<v Speaker 1>you have no idea how much it means. This hour

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<v Speaker 1>of the WRKO DAV Department of Massachusetts Radiothon is brought

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<v Speaker 1>to you by Brighton One. To donate, please call 978-632-1985, 1985,

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<v Speaker 1>or visit dav5k. boston, dav5k.

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<v Speaker 3>Boston.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, my friends, so the bidding now has, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's getting serious. It's really starting to get serious. The

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<v Speaker 1>bidding for a very special dinner for eight, a private

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<v Speaker 1>dinner with world-renowned chef Paul Wahlberg at his five-star world-class restaurant,

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<v Speaker 1>Alma Nove in Hingham, is now at $ 6, 000. Six thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>It went from fifteen hundred, twenty five hundred, four thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>five thousand. And now I believe the first name is Bill.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to give the last name. Bill. Just Bill. Mr. Bill.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to say the last name because I

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<v Speaker 1>want to keep people's anonymity. But Mr. Bill now has

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<v Speaker 1>come in at six thousand dollars. Do I hear seven?

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<v Speaker 1>Do I hear seven? If you want to bid right now, 978-632-1985. Oh, okay. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just the first name there, Sandy. I mean, it's,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not the last name. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>bills in the world. Sandy's, again, I think, worried I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to get somebody in trouble. You know, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>dinner for eight. I mean, A, you're going to eat

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<v Speaker 1>like you've never eaten before in your life, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>for an incredible cause. You know, I mean, it's a twofer,

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<v Speaker 1>as they say. All right, joining me now, truly my

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<v Speaker 1>distinct honor and pleasure, is Raymond Pratt. He's a staff sergeant,

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<v Speaker 1>18 years in the U.S.

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<v Speaker 2>Army.

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<v Speaker 1>He is an Afghanistan veteran. He's got a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>stories to tell, very emotional stories. Raymond, thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for coming on the Kuna Report and on our

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<v Speaker 1>annual Radiothon to benefit the DAV. How are you, sir?

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to hell, yeah. Good. Very good. Raymond, if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting too personal, please tell me. I won't be offended.

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<v Speaker 1>I know your transition from the U.S.

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<v Speaker 3>Army.

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<v Speaker 1>You were there for 18 years. Back to civilian life

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<v Speaker 1>was not easy. It was a difficult road. Can you

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<v Speaker 1>just tell us how did the DAV, Department of Massachusetts,

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<v Speaker 1>guide you with that very difficult, hard transition? Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, the second I all processed, the government really just

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<v Speaker 4>moved on. I felt forgotten, abandoned, almost like a sink

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<v Speaker 4>or swim scenario. And the DAV, what they did was

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<v Speaker 4>they helped me with my paperwork and told me about

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<v Speaker 4>a bunch of different programs out there that were there

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<v Speaker 4>to assist me on my transition. I'm still going through.

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<v Speaker 4>I just got out a year and a half ago.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm actually currently in college with the Veteran Readiness and

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<v Speaker 4>Employment instead of using the GI Bill, which I never

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<v Speaker 4>knew existed until the DAV actually told me about it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a great program.

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<v Speaker 4>They pay me if I'm going and using the Post 9-11,

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<v Speaker 4>and with the Post 9-11, I can still transfer over

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<v Speaker 4>to my family without it being touched.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Raymond, so you spent 18 years in the military.

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<v Speaker 1>You were in Afghanistan. I take it you were deployed.

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<v Speaker 1>You did a tour of duty?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, sir.

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<v Speaker 1>And so when you were done, you said basically the army,

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<v Speaker 1>really the military, doesn't prepare you when you leave the military.

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<v Speaker 1>You've served 18 years. You've been in a very difficult war,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of battles. I'm sure you saw a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of combat, a lot of horrible things. And then all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, you're out in civilian life. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not trying to be critical of the military. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>mean it in a critical way. But basically, good luck, son.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on your own. And there you are. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>prepared for the transition. What was it like? How hard

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<v Speaker 1>was the transition for you?

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<v Speaker 4>Extremely difficult. I mean, realistically, the Army's all about transitioning

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<v Speaker 4>you from being a civilian into being a soldier, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>into that mentality of taking another life. They're not necessarily

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<v Speaker 4>into the transition period of how are we going to

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<v Speaker 4>take and flip a switch to change you from being,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, a soldier to back to a civilian. That's

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<v Speaker 4>not their role. That's not their job. So, Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 4>been extremely difficult on, you know, what my next mission is.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm mission-focused and used to having a day-to-day schedule. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>used to, you know, going to PT at 5.30 in

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<v Speaker 4>the morning, you know, get charged at 7, 7.30, and

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<v Speaker 4>then go to work at 9. And then, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you have a 9-to-5 job, and, you know, being a

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<v Speaker 4>staff sergeant, being a platoon sergeant, you take care of

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<v Speaker 4>your people. So sometimes I'd be, you know, there until 7, 8,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe 9 o'clock at night.

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<v Speaker 2>Just dealing with stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>So going from that to having nothing, you know, in

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<v Speaker 4>that family aspect of the Army, being ripped away when

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<v Speaker 4>you transition out, I don't think anyone really can prepare

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<v Speaker 4>you for that.

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<v Speaker 1>What was it like for you, say, you know, you've

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<v Speaker 1>served your country, you've seen the horrors of war, You

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<v Speaker 1>did everything your country asked of you and then some,

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<v Speaker 1>and now you're back in civilian life. Was it difficult

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<v Speaker 1>to find a job? Was it difficult to reorient yourself

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<v Speaker 1>to civilian life? Did you feel that you were isolated,

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<v Speaker 1>disconnected from everybody and people around you? How difficult for

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<v Speaker 1>you was that transition process?

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<v Speaker 4>I would say that the numbness, I suffer from PTSD,

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<v Speaker 4>so the numbness and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Was already a factor.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like due to the transition, it multiplied tenfold.

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<v Speaker 4>The transition piece That's why I'm in college with the

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<v Speaker 4>Veteran Reigness and Employment Ability is to basically get myself

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<v Speaker 4>more marketable. I'm studying a legal studies degree, going for

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<v Speaker 4>a bachelor's degree with the goal of becoming a lawyer

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<v Speaker 4>for veteran advocacy. Just because I've realized that without this

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<v Speaker 4>great organization, realistically, veterans were forgotten.

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<v Speaker 2>So....

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<v Speaker 4>I want to give back to this amazing organization. The

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<v Speaker 4>only way I know how, which is to be more involved.

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<v Speaker 1>Raymond, I can't thank you enough. I really can't. I

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<v Speaker 1>know the DAV was crucial for you to getting back

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<v Speaker 1>on the road to recovery, taking care of your PTSD,

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<v Speaker 1>confronting it, getting an education and getting the second chapter

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<v Speaker 1>of your life. And I want to thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>your service, Raymond. You truly are. You're a great American hero.

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<v Speaker 1>And Raymond, Just very quickly, I've got Dan Stack, Bob

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<v Speaker 1>Lynch here. I know they want to say a few

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<v Speaker 1>words to you, but from the Coonerman, from the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>of my heart, thank you for your service.

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<v Speaker 6>Ray, I'd also like to acknowledge the fact that you

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<v Speaker 6>put 18 years in service and that you're still giving

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<v Speaker 6>service back to your, basically, the veteran community. Thank you

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<v Speaker 6>very much for all you've done today and for what

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<v Speaker 6>you'll be doing in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>God bless you.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Raymond, God bless you, and if you need anything, you

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<v Speaker 1>give me a call. Okay, Raymond?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, sir. Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, sir. Thank you very much. Okay, if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to donate, 978-632-1985, 978-632-1985, or if you prefer, you

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<v Speaker 1>can go to dav5k. boston, dav5k. boston. You know, again, here, 18 years.

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<v Speaker 1>the prime of his youth, serving our country, suffers from

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<v Speaker 1>serious PTSD, how many deployments in Afghanistan, fought the Taliban,

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<v Speaker 1>fought al-Qaeda for our rights, our freedoms, our security, our safety,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the poor man comes back and he's basically

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<v Speaker 1>on his own. And he's battling mental health issues. He

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't know where to find work. He doesn't know where

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<v Speaker 1>to get an income. He doesn't know where to get housing.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't know how to transition back into civilian life

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<v Speaker 1>because essentially he's been abandoned by the military and by

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<v Speaker 1>the government. And along comes the DAV. And they help

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<v Speaker 1>him every single step of the way to get him

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<v Speaker 1>his benefits, which he's earned and he deserves, to get

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<v Speaker 1>him an education. to get him reoriented, to get him

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<v Speaker 1>again integrated back into civilian life, to end the isolation,

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<v Speaker 1>and to put this man back on the road to recovery.

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<v Speaker 1>So I want you to know that everything you give

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<v Speaker 1>to the DAV, you are helping disabled American veterans, many

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<v Speaker 1>of them at their critical hour of need. Please, no

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<v Speaker 1>donation is too small. Whatever you give, It's the thought

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<v Speaker 1>and I've really now gotten to know him over the years,

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<v Speaker 1>a very special man. He's in studio. He is the

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<v Speaker 1>current adjutant of the Disabled American Veterans Department of Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 1>He is an Iraq War veteran. He is a great patriot.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Valila. Mike, how are you?

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<v Speaker 7>I'm doing great this morning, Jeff. Thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike.

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<v Speaker 1>What happened? You are a vet yourself. You came back.

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<v Speaker 1>You needed help. The DAV was there for you and

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<v Speaker 1>your family. Tell us about your experience first in Iraq,

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<v Speaker 1>and then what happened right after you came back from

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<v Speaker 1>the war.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure.

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<v Speaker 7>So I served in Iraq and Kuwait, and like so

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<v Speaker 7>many veterans, I looked forward to coming home to my family.

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<v Speaker 7>But Coming home from combat doesn't always mean that the

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<v Speaker 7>battle's over. I came home carrying PTSD, injuries, and pain

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<v Speaker 7>that I didn't know how to manage. At the same time,

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<v Speaker 7>I was trying to be present for my family, find

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<v Speaker 7>stable housing and employment, get medical care, navigate my veterans' benefits.

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<v Speaker 7>To be blunt, it was overwhelming. I battled addiction, just

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<v Speaker 7>trying to mask the feelings and pain to make it

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<v Speaker 7>through the day. and get some rest at night, but

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<v Speaker 7>eventually it all imploded. I found myself at the bottom, um,

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<v Speaker 7>fighting to find a way back along the way. Um,

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<v Speaker 7>I experienced suicidal thoughts, um, and made attempts to end

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<v Speaker 7>my life. I couldn't cope with what I was carrying and, uh,

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<v Speaker 7>and I felt completely alone in the battle. Um, and

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<v Speaker 7>that's the difficult part of my story to share. Um,

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<v Speaker 7>but I share it because another veteran listening. might recognize

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<v Speaker 7>something of it in themselves. Then DAV came into my life.

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<v Speaker 7>I began to realize that I wasn't the only one

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<v Speaker 7>struggling with.

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<v Speaker 1>These things.

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<v Speaker 7>There were other veterans who understood. There were people who

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<v Speaker 7>could help me find a path forward. And I discovered

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<v Speaker 7>something else. My lived experiences could help another veteran. They

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<v Speaker 7>could listen without judgment. I could understand why making a

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<v Speaker 7>phone call or asking for help might feel impossible, and

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<v Speaker 7>I could help another veteran take that next step. And

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<v Speaker 7>that's why DAV Massachusetts means so much to me. Behind

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<v Speaker 7>every request for housing, every ride to a medical appointment,

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<v Speaker 7>and every benefits claim is a person and often a

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<v Speaker 7>family trying to move forward. So when you support DAV Massachusetts,

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<v Speaker 7>you really help us to reach veterans who may be

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<v Speaker 7>fighting battles that nobody around them can see. You help

0:22:19.700 --> 0:22:24.100
<v Speaker 7>them connect with someone who cares, with stability, someone willing

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<v Speaker 7>to stand beside them. And if you're a veteran listening

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<v Speaker 7>who recognizes yourself in my story, you don't have to

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<v Speaker 7>wait until everything falls apart to reach out. You don't

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<v Speaker 7>need the perfect words. Just start with, I need help.

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<v Speaker 7>Like I said, Jeff, I once felt alone in that battle.

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<v Speaker 7>Today I know that I have people beside me And

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<v Speaker 7>I want veterans to know that they can have that too.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike, just for the audience, for people listening, because you

0:22:59.250 --> 0:23:03.189
<v Speaker 1>can't see Mike, obviously. You can just hear Mike. We

0:23:03.210 --> 0:23:05.910
<v Speaker 1>were kind of joking off air because he looks more

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<v Speaker 1>Italian than Irish, but he's actually much more Irish than Italian.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's very strong. He's stocky. He's broad-shouldered. Really, he's

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<v Speaker 1>built like a tank. I mean, he really is. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you think of a warrior, you really think of

0:23:21.330 --> 0:23:24.570
<v Speaker 1>a guy like Mike. And so to see a guy

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<v Speaker 1>with his strength, his size, and then come back with

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<v Speaker 1>this heartbreaking story that he suffered PTSD in Iraq, he

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<v Speaker 1>fell into addiction, it got so bad he was thinking

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<v Speaker 1>of actually killing himself, seriously killing himself. And it was

0:23:46.550 --> 0:23:53.330
<v Speaker 1>disabled American veterans and that call that essentially helped save

0:23:53.369 --> 0:23:59.280
<v Speaker 1>his life and put him back. And first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to say, if there are any veterans

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<v Speaker 1>out there, if you're like the way Mike was, if

0:24:07.119 --> 0:24:13.140
<v Speaker 1>his story resonates with you, please call disabled American veterans.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to kill yourself. You don't have to

0:24:18.740 --> 0:24:23.680
<v Speaker 1>commit suicide. You don't have to stand there and drown

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<v Speaker 1>and wallow in drug addiction or alcoholism thinking you're all

0:24:27.990 --> 0:24:31.350
<v Speaker 1>alone and you've been betrayed and abandoned because you haven't.

0:24:32.570 --> 0:24:35.670
<v Speaker 1>There is a huge network of support for you. All

0:24:35.690 --> 0:24:38.710
<v Speaker 1>you have to do is make that call. Just call

0:24:38.750 --> 0:24:43.120
<v Speaker 1>them and they will take care of you. Please, there

0:24:43.170 --> 0:24:47.600
<v Speaker 1>are so many options. And, you know, and I met Mike,

0:24:47.640 --> 0:24:50.619
<v Speaker 1>this was a couple of weeks ago, his wonderful wife.

0:24:50.660 --> 0:24:53.660
<v Speaker 1>You got to see his wife. He's got a beautiful family.

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<v Speaker 1>He lives in a nice home. You know, he's the

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<v Speaker 1>adjutant now at the DAV, increasingly the voice, the face

0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:05.659
<v Speaker 1>of the DAV. I mean, honestly, you would never guess,

0:25:06.160 --> 0:25:09.430
<v Speaker 1>you would never possibly guess that that what he happened,

0:25:09.530 --> 0:25:14.890
<v Speaker 1>happened to him. So please, and this is why I'm

0:25:14.910 --> 0:25:21.430
<v Speaker 1>urging everyone out there to donate. Your call, your donation

0:25:21.990 --> 0:25:28.790
<v Speaker 1>can save a veteran's life, literally. Because for everyone like Mike,

0:25:30.130 --> 0:25:34.820
<v Speaker 1>who don't pull the trigger, who don't commit suicide, there

0:25:34.880 --> 0:25:38.220
<v Speaker 1>are 10 others who do. And that's just a fact.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the reality of many of these vets who come

0:25:43.160 --> 0:25:47.280
<v Speaker 1>back after these wars. And that's why I'm so proud

0:25:47.440 --> 0:25:50.410
<v Speaker 1>to partner with the DAV and why what they do

0:25:50.470 --> 0:26:02.460
<v Speaker 1>is so seminal and so important. So please call 978-632-1985. 978-632-1985.

0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Make a donation today. Or if you prefer, go to DAV5K. Boston. DAV,

0:26:11.520 --> 0:26:17.300
<v Speaker 1>the number 5K. Boston. I want to go to Deborah Olson,

0:26:17.320 --> 0:26:23.260
<v Speaker 1>but just before I go, Mike, I'm so happy you're back.

0:26:24.100 --> 0:26:27.380
<v Speaker 1>I'm so happy you're healed. I'm so happy you didn't

0:26:27.400 --> 0:26:32.280
<v Speaker 1>make that fateful decision. you're a true warrior in every

0:26:32.340 --> 0:26:38.629
<v Speaker 1>sense of the word, spiritually, morally, physically, uh, you're truly

0:26:38.670 --> 0:26:41.090
<v Speaker 1>a great man. And I want to thank you for

0:26:41.130 --> 0:26:43.510
<v Speaker 1>your service. And I want to thank you for your

0:26:43.570 --> 0:26:47.510
<v Speaker 1>courage and especially for telling us this story, because I

0:26:47.570 --> 0:26:48.350
<v Speaker 1>know it wasn't easy.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you, Jeff. And, uh, and again, thank you for

0:26:52.600 --> 0:26:55.500
<v Speaker 7>the opportunity here and for any of the callers who

0:26:55.540 --> 0:26:59.260
<v Speaker 7>are calling in to donate. Um, Just to echo exactly

0:26:59.280 --> 0:27:02.199
<v Speaker 7>what you said, every dollar counts.

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<v Speaker 1>It allows us.

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<v Speaker 7>To do what we do here at DAV, whether it's

0:27:06.859 --> 0:27:09.959
<v Speaker 7>giving a ride, helping a veteran with a claim, or

0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:13.580
<v Speaker 7>just listening. And we don't just take care of the veteran.

0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:16.500
<v Speaker 7>We take care of the entire family unit. And that's

0:27:16.540 --> 0:27:17.040
<v Speaker 7>what counts.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike, thank you again. And God bless you. Mike, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying it just to say it. You need anything,

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<v Speaker 1>you give me a call, okay? Absolutely, Jeff.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>God bless you, Mike. And again, thank you for your service.

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<v Speaker 1>I told you it's the most difficult show of the

0:27:35.340 --> 0:27:38.360
<v Speaker 1>year for me. It's the proudest show. It's the most

0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:42.360
<v Speaker 1>important show. I look forward to this show because, you know,

0:27:42.460 --> 0:27:44.480
<v Speaker 1>throughout the whole show, Dan is just showing me how

0:27:44.500 --> 0:27:47.100
<v Speaker 1>much money we're raising. And I know how much good

0:27:47.140 --> 0:27:50.240
<v Speaker 1>we're doing. But by the end of this show, I

0:27:50.270 --> 0:27:51.570
<v Speaker 1>have tears in my eyes. I'm not going to lie

0:27:51.590 --> 0:27:58.850
<v Speaker 1>to you. I'm emotionally spent and drained. Absolutely spent and drained. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>On the phone with us now is Deborah Olson. She

0:28:04.550 --> 0:28:09.860
<v Speaker 1>is a DAV past department commander and inspector, a U.S.

0:28:09.980 --> 0:28:14.540
<v Speaker 1>Marine Corps veteran. Deborah, thank you so much for coming

0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:17.920
<v Speaker 1>on the Kuna Report and joining us for our annual

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<v Speaker 1>WRKO DAV Department of Massachusetts Radiothon. How are you?

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<v Speaker 3>Hi, Anthony and Jeff. Thank you for having me on

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<v Speaker 3>this morning.

0:28:29.570 --> 0:28:33.550
<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's truly my pleasure, Debra. Debra, I'm just curious.

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<v Speaker 1>This is another very difficult topic, but it has to

0:28:37.190 --> 0:28:41.270
<v Speaker 1>be spoken about because it's more prevalent than people think

0:28:41.330 --> 0:28:47.890
<v Speaker 1>in the military. When you served, you were assaulted by

0:28:48.190 --> 0:28:54.430
<v Speaker 1>friendlies under very hostile conditions. Could you explain what happened

0:28:54.470 --> 0:28:54.950
<v Speaker 1>to you, Debra?

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<v Speaker 3>And it took me years to actually come to the

0:29:07.070 --> 0:29:13.860
<v Speaker 3>fact that something like that should not have happened. And actually,

0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:19.000
<v Speaker 3>it happens more often than we want to. We actually

0:29:19.060 --> 0:29:19.500
<v Speaker 3>want to.

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<v Speaker 1>Deborah, sorry. Deborah, I don't mean to cut you off.

0:29:22.340 --> 0:29:24.420
<v Speaker 1>You broke up a little bit with us at the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>We couldn't hear the first couple sentences. you were sexually assaulted.

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<v Speaker 1>Did I hear you correctly?

0:29:29.250 --> 0:29:30.700
<v Speaker 2>I was raped.

0:29:31.140 --> 0:29:31.900
<v Speaker 1>You were raped.

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<v Speaker 3>And so it's, I mean, it's not an easy word.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even like to say that.

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<v Speaker 3>But, assaulted to me means like you were beat up.

0:29:44.300 --> 0:29:48.340
<v Speaker 3>I was, but I was, rape is just so force.

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<v Speaker 1>I am so sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't happen just to females. That happens to males too,

0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:56.320
<v Speaker 3>which is the.

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<v Speaker 2>Most unreported crimes.

0:29:59.640 --> 0:30:04.900
<v Speaker 4>That there are military, and that's going to tell it.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I was in the mid-' 70s, and If you wanted

0:30:11.380 --> 0:30:13.220
<v Speaker 2>to stay in the service, you didn't say it.

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<v Speaker 1>Debra, can you hold on one second? We're going to

0:30:15.820 --> 0:30:20.360
<v Speaker 1>try to reconnect because the cell phone, the connection is bad.

0:30:21.080 --> 0:30:23.020
<v Speaker 1>We can hardly hear a word that you're saying. Let's

0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:26.180
<v Speaker 1>see if we can reconnect. I'd like to get a

0:30:26.260 --> 0:30:30.630
<v Speaker 1>clear line if possible. So here you had, this is heartbreaking.

0:30:31.150 --> 0:30:38.610
<v Speaker 1>Here you had a patriotic woman, Marine Corps woman, raped.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know a little bit about her story. It

0:30:42.570 --> 0:30:46.260
<v Speaker 1>was very hard for her to get justice. She had

0:30:46.300 --> 0:30:50.240
<v Speaker 1>to fight for justice. And she's right. There are rapes

0:30:50.260 --> 0:30:52.820
<v Speaker 1>that occur, not just to women, but even to men.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're ashamed. They don't want others to know. They

0:30:57.630 --> 0:31:00.490
<v Speaker 1>can't believe it happened to them. You're in the military.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not supposed to happen to you. And it

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<v Speaker 1>is very, very difficult for them to even admit that

0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:11.640
<v Speaker 1>it happened. And she did. And it took her a

0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:15.469
<v Speaker 1>long time. It took her many, many years. Obviously, the

0:31:15.530 --> 0:31:22.330
<v Speaker 1>post-traumatic stress was immense. The pain, the suffering, the mental health, everything.

0:31:23.130 --> 0:31:30.170
<v Speaker 1>And the disabled American veterans were there for Debra. And

0:31:30.210 --> 0:31:33.400
<v Speaker 1>they helped her. They helped her get all the help

0:31:33.420 --> 0:31:36.840
<v Speaker 1>that she needed, the therapy that she needed, the counseling

0:31:36.860 --> 0:31:41.820
<v Speaker 1>that she needed. And it turned her life around. It

0:31:41.920 --> 0:31:45.330
<v Speaker 1>literally turned her life around. Okay, we've got Deborah back.

0:31:45.990 --> 0:31:53.850
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully we have a much clearer connection. Deborah Olson. Deborah,

0:31:54.490 --> 0:31:58.670
<v Speaker 1>she's a DAV, PASS Department Commander. She's an inspector, U.S.

0:31:58.730 --> 0:32:04.830
<v Speaker 1>Marine Corps veteran. Do we have you, Deborah? Deborah? Deborah.

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<v Speaker 5>Can you hear me?

0:32:05.990 --> 0:32:09.790
<v Speaker 1>All loud and clear. Okay. So can you just very quick,

0:32:09.850 --> 0:32:12.690
<v Speaker 1>it's such a painful thing. I'm almost, I almost don't

0:32:12.710 --> 0:32:15.850
<v Speaker 1>even want to ask, but so you were raped. Now

0:32:16.130 --> 0:32:19.170
<v Speaker 1>you were raped by friendlies. In other words, by people

0:32:19.230 --> 0:32:20.730
<v Speaker 1>within the Marine Corps, correct?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's probably like the hardest thing is because it's

0:32:25.540 --> 0:32:29.240
<v Speaker 5>your own people. It's people that you're going to consider

0:32:29.580 --> 0:32:33.310
<v Speaker 5>your brothers and your sisters and And you're hoping that

0:32:33.350 --> 0:32:35.790
<v Speaker 5>they're always going to have your back and your side.

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<v Speaker 5>It took a long time. I was in Okinawa, and

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<v Speaker 5>at that time, the ratio was 70 men to every

0:32:46.510 --> 0:32:52.210
<v Speaker 5>one woman. And they had a list. When you came

0:32:52.300 --> 0:32:55.080
<v Speaker 5>on base, your name got put on a list, and

0:32:55.480 --> 0:32:58.320
<v Speaker 5>literally that list was passed from one person to another.

0:32:59.010 --> 0:33:01.130
<v Speaker 5>I actually was friends with someone who told me, your

0:33:01.170 --> 0:33:05.070
<v Speaker 5>name is on the list. Do not go anywhere by yourself.

0:33:05.890 --> 0:33:09.980
<v Speaker 5>If you're going someplace, call me. I will come up

0:33:10.160 --> 0:33:13.520
<v Speaker 5>and I'll walk you down to the child hall, whatever. Again,

0:33:13.540 --> 0:33:15.900
<v Speaker 5>it helps when you find the biggest man that you

0:33:15.960 --> 0:33:20.980
<v Speaker 5>can who is 6'5 and about that wide, right? And

0:33:21.000 --> 0:33:24.480
<v Speaker 5>he went with me everywhere I went, so nobody bothered me.

0:33:25.440 --> 0:33:30.280
<v Speaker 5>Two days after he left Okinawa, I was assaulted. Someone

0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:36.090
<v Speaker 5>dragged me. I had to go and get dinner at

0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:39.790
<v Speaker 5>the chow hall, and someone put something in my soda,

0:33:40.710 --> 0:33:43.490
<v Speaker 5>and I was just drinking soda. It wasn't like alcohol.

0:33:43.830 --> 0:33:46.510
<v Speaker 5>Someone put something in my soda, and I was walking back.

0:33:46.570 --> 0:33:50.450
<v Speaker 5>Next thing I knew, I woke up in some shed

0:33:50.850 --> 0:33:53.950
<v Speaker 5>somewhere in Okinawa being assaulted.

0:33:54.150 --> 0:33:54.300
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 5>It was not a good time. I did go to

0:33:59.610 --> 0:34:04.690
<v Speaker 5>the medic. Of course, it was written off as showing

0:34:04.750 --> 0:34:12.029
<v Speaker 5>up for emotional issues. At there, they didn't report it

0:34:12.130 --> 0:34:18.290
<v Speaker 5>as rape. You kind of knew there were some things

0:34:18.330 --> 0:34:20.430
<v Speaker 5>you kind of knew back then. I was in the 70s.

0:34:20.450 --> 0:34:23.870
<v Speaker 5>You didn't report it because it was going to be

0:34:23.910 --> 0:34:26.520
<v Speaker 5>blamed on you. You know, no matter what you did,

0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:31.340
<v Speaker 5>it was your fault. So, and I actually buried it,

0:34:31.450 --> 0:34:34.830
<v Speaker 5>and I buried it for years. And this is in

0:34:34.850 --> 0:34:39.709
<v Speaker 5>the 70s, so 20 years later, not knowing, I tried

0:34:39.750 --> 0:34:43.870
<v Speaker 5>to commit suicide. Did not succeed. Spent three days in

0:34:43.890 --> 0:34:50.380
<v Speaker 5>the hospital, several months going to therapy and everything, and

0:34:51.680 --> 0:34:54.880
<v Speaker 5>So now in 94. In 99, I joined the DAV.

0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:58.279
<v Speaker 5>A friend of mine said, hey, why don't you join?

0:34:58.320 --> 0:35:01.440
<v Speaker 5>He was an officer at the chapter I belonged to

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:04.470
<v Speaker 5>and said, hey, why don't you join the DAV? You can.

0:35:04.570 --> 0:35:07.009
<v Speaker 5>And I said, really? Because I didn't realize I could.

0:35:07.030 --> 0:35:09.649
<v Speaker 5>And he said, yeah. So I said, all right. So

0:35:09.710 --> 0:35:11.290
<v Speaker 5>I went and I joined. It was a place to

0:35:11.370 --> 0:35:14.049
<v Speaker 5>meet other veterans and to play darts and, you know,

0:35:14.110 --> 0:35:17.750
<v Speaker 5>do what I needed to do, right? And over the

0:35:17.890 --> 0:35:18.950
<v Speaker 5>couple years, they.

0:35:20.530 --> 0:35:22.950
<v Speaker 5>I got to be friends with people. I didn't realize

0:35:22.989 --> 0:35:25.740
<v Speaker 5>how close to the edge I was again. It was

0:35:25.760 --> 0:35:28.799
<v Speaker 5>those people that turned around and said, you need to

0:35:28.880 --> 0:35:33.160
<v Speaker 5>go to the VA. You need help. I didn't realize

0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:39.300
<v Speaker 5>I was on the edge again. And through them pushing

0:35:39.340 --> 0:35:42.220
<v Speaker 5>me to go get help, I went to the VA

0:35:42.420 --> 0:35:46.969
<v Speaker 5>and said, They put me into therapy again, intense therapy,

0:35:48.230 --> 0:35:51.080
<v Speaker 5>and really I still go to therapy. Thirteen years later,

0:35:51.100 --> 0:35:55.840
<v Speaker 5>I'm still going to therapy. But I have learned how

0:35:55.900 --> 0:36:00.160
<v Speaker 5>to handle it. The past couple of days I've been,

0:36:00.180 --> 0:36:04.130
<v Speaker 5>because we were discussing that I was going to be

0:36:04.190 --> 0:36:09.050
<v Speaker 5>on the air telling my story again and how important

0:36:09.070 --> 0:36:11.209
<v Speaker 5>it is to get that out, that there is help.

0:36:11.700 --> 0:36:14.589
<v Speaker 5>not just for men, just not for women, but for men, too.

0:36:15.050 --> 0:36:20.549
<v Speaker 5>There is help out there at the VA for this,

0:36:20.890 --> 0:36:26.450
<v Speaker 5>for MST, and you need to go to get it

0:36:26.469 --> 0:36:30.530
<v Speaker 5>because you don't want to be one of the 22, okay?

0:36:31.050 --> 0:36:34.910
<v Speaker 5>You want to be able to give back, and because

0:36:34.930 --> 0:36:39.670
<v Speaker 5>the One of my biggest issues is people turn around

0:36:39.730 --> 0:36:41.810
<v Speaker 5>and say, Deb, you're always doing something with the DAV.

0:36:41.930 --> 0:36:42.210
<v Speaker 1>Why?

0:36:42.370 --> 0:36:42.609
<v Speaker 2>Why?

0:36:42.710 --> 0:36:46.950
<v Speaker 5>I said, because even now I cannot not do something

0:36:47.030 --> 0:36:50.190
<v Speaker 5>because I can't be by myself long enough. It's not

0:36:50.230 --> 0:36:53.129
<v Speaker 5>a good place for me to be. So I'm with

0:36:53.190 --> 0:36:58.670
<v Speaker 5>people that know that I know have my back without

0:36:58.710 --> 0:37:01.410
<v Speaker 5>a doubt. I have people that are going to help me.

0:37:01.780 --> 0:37:04.850
<v Speaker 5>If they see something, they're going to tell me, and

0:37:04.870 --> 0:37:06.750
<v Speaker 5>they're going to make sure that I get the help

0:37:06.850 --> 0:37:07.230
<v Speaker 5>I need.

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<v Speaker 1>Deborah, you're a remarkable woman. I got to tell you,

0:37:13.370 --> 0:37:16.810
<v Speaker 1>you truly have the warrior spirit, the heart of a lion.

0:37:18.850 --> 0:37:22.819
<v Speaker 1>What you did, I feel so sorry. What they did

0:37:22.860 --> 0:37:29.160
<v Speaker 1>to you was so inexcusable. It's an abomination. It truly is.

0:37:30.000 --> 0:37:32.000
<v Speaker 1>and that you had to live with this for so long.

0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:36.180
<v Speaker 1>And I'm just happy that, you know, you're not one

0:37:36.200 --> 0:37:41.140
<v Speaker 1>of those, as you mentioned, the suicides that you see

0:37:41.200 --> 0:37:44.550
<v Speaker 1>from veterans who come back, you know, was it 22

0:37:44.550 --> 0:37:48.350
<v Speaker 1>a day, 21 a day, whatever the number is, every

0:37:48.410 --> 0:37:52.189
<v Speaker 1>single day. And that the DAV was able to get

0:37:52.230 --> 0:37:56.969
<v Speaker 1>you the help that you earned, the help that you deserve. Um,

0:37:58.210 --> 0:38:02.390
<v Speaker 1>I just, and that you're here with us and I mean,

0:38:02.430 --> 0:38:07.300
<v Speaker 1>you're a fighter, Debra, you're an absolute fighter. Um, Debra,

0:38:07.340 --> 0:38:11.280
<v Speaker 1>before I let you go, um, just very, very quickly,

0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:14.180
<v Speaker 1>how are you doing now? Uh, you say you're helping

0:38:14.239 --> 0:38:17.720
<v Speaker 1>out with the DAV all the time. You're very active. Uh,

0:38:17.820 --> 0:38:21.520
<v Speaker 1>it seems to me that you're the road to recovery

0:38:21.700 --> 0:38:22.700
<v Speaker 1>is there, correct?

0:38:23.320 --> 0:38:23.500
<v Speaker 5>Right.

0:38:23.800 --> 0:38:24.100
<v Speaker 3>Yes.

0:38:24.239 --> 0:38:26.910
<v Speaker 5>And, um, The last couple days, as I was playing

0:38:26.930 --> 0:38:30.850
<v Speaker 5>the last couple days, I actually didn't know, because we've

0:38:30.870 --> 0:38:34.440
<v Speaker 5>been talking about it, that I started snapping at people,

0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:38.839
<v Speaker 5>and I didn't understand why. And then it hit me.

0:38:39.260 --> 0:38:42.760
<v Speaker 5>You're getting triggered. You need to go back to your program.

0:38:42.940 --> 0:38:49.109
<v Speaker 5>You need to, you know. And yesterday afternoon, I was crying,

0:38:49.180 --> 0:38:54.030
<v Speaker 5>because even though I had all this therapy, it still

0:38:54.070 --> 0:38:56.500
<v Speaker 5>comes back. It is a struggle every single day, and

0:38:56.520 --> 0:38:58.219
<v Speaker 5>it will probably be a struggle for the rest of

0:38:58.260 --> 0:39:03.520
<v Speaker 5>my life. But because I have friends, these are just

0:39:03.600 --> 0:39:07.560
<v Speaker 5>not people that I work alongside with or that I've done.

0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:11.960
<v Speaker 5>I have over 26 years of being in the DAV,

0:39:11.980 --> 0:39:17.900
<v Speaker 5>I developed strong friendships with people. Dan Stack as a mentor,

0:39:17.940 --> 0:39:22.610
<v Speaker 5>but as a friend. Mike and his wife, Kayla, I

0:39:22.860 --> 0:39:25.840
<v Speaker 5>call them my adopted children because they laugh. They say, yeah,

0:39:25.960 --> 0:39:27.320
<v Speaker 5>I'm old enough to be your mom.

0:39:27.770 --> 0:39:28.230
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

0:39:30.310 --> 0:39:35.170
<v Speaker 5>These are people that mean a lot to me, and

0:39:35.489 --> 0:39:38.830
<v Speaker 5>I know that I'm valued in their lives as well.

0:39:39.370 --> 0:39:45.270
<v Speaker 5>And that's what's important because you develop families and friendships

0:39:45.290 --> 0:39:50.120
<v Speaker 5>that within the DAV. So getting people to come in

0:39:50.180 --> 0:39:52.940
<v Speaker 5>and realizing that we're always going to have your back,

0:39:53.020 --> 0:39:56.520
<v Speaker 5>we're going to help you. And we're going to help

0:39:56.560 --> 0:39:58.890
<v Speaker 5>you get your claim processed. We're going to help you

0:39:58.930 --> 0:40:04.009
<v Speaker 5>get transportation to your doctor's appointments. We're going to help

0:40:04.050 --> 0:40:07.410
<v Speaker 5>you get housing if that's something that we need to

0:40:07.469 --> 0:40:10.730
<v Speaker 5>do and you fall into the category. We're going to

0:40:10.770 --> 0:40:13.989
<v Speaker 5>help you get you to the right places to get

0:40:14.090 --> 0:40:17.220
<v Speaker 5>the help that that you need so that you can

0:40:17.260 --> 0:40:20.560
<v Speaker 5>be the best person you can be going forward in life.

0:40:20.820 --> 0:40:24.660
<v Speaker 5>And it's not easy. It's going to be a struggle

0:40:24.739 --> 0:40:28.120
<v Speaker 5>every single day. But if you know you've got people

0:40:29.010 --> 0:40:32.030
<v Speaker 5>there to help you along the way, that's what's important.

0:40:32.070 --> 0:40:34.390
<v Speaker 5>And that's what I find.

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<v Speaker 1>Deborah, you're my hero. You're my hero. Deborah Olson.