Speaker 1: Even as layoffs amount. Economists call it a jobless boom.
Speaker 1: I never heard that before. Right. The stock market is
Speaker 1: doing great right now. I mean it's not killing it,
Speaker 1: but it's doing just fine. Yeah, corporate profits are as
Speaker 1: good as they've been in a bid. And yes, Steady,
Speaker 1: we're having layoffs. But we're having layoffs. And I'm real
Speaker 1: curious as to what that's all about. And that's the
Speaker 1: reason we have our guest with us right now. He
Speaker 1: is Dwayne decent, he is a business as strategist, he
Speaker 1: is a he's an author. He heads up the EMBc.
Speaker 1: Should I can't even say it efficiency group, I should say,
Speaker 1: because it ain't the efficiency group. But Dwayne, welcome to
Speaker 1: the program.
Speaker 2: I will glad to be here. Thank you for inviting me.
Speaker 1: So, Dwayne, what do we owe this to? Is it AI?
Speaker 1: Are these people coming in and or when I say
Speaker 1: these people or these processes coming in and taking over
Speaker 1: people's jobs.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think it actually started as AI. I
Speaker 2: think initially, I think back to twenty twenty two when
Speaker 2: Elon Muss first purchased Twitter and he cut costs there
Speaker 2: by sixty seventy percent, and people were sure Twitter was
Speaker 2: going to collapse and have all sorts of outages and
Speaker 2: really didn't happen, and everyone was shocked that they started
Speaker 2: realizing that they might have a bloated infrastructure. And I
Speaker 2: think in many cases that was kind of true. And
Speaker 2: so hiring really slowed at that point for the next
Speaker 2: couple of years and before AI really started to kick in.
Speaker 2: And so now you have a second phenomenon that's coming along,
Speaker 2: and AI is starting to impact some industries and segments
Speaker 2: in particular, and it's going to only grow from here.
Speaker 2: So I think we have probably the beginning of an
Speaker 2: issue rather than an.
Speaker 3: End of one.
Speaker 4: You just said, there, Duane, it's only going to grow
Speaker 4: from here, and that was going to be my question
Speaker 4: is this is this kind of here to stay then?
Speaker 2: And where do?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 1: Did job seekers do?
Speaker 3: Do you?
Speaker 1: What's where do you go?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 2: Well, I think there's kind of two schools of thought here.
Speaker 2: One school of thought is that AI will come along,
Speaker 2: take away a lot of jobs, will have high unemployment
Speaker 2: and a difficult recovery on that. And there's another school
Speaker 2: of thought that says, really AI is going to free
Speaker 2: up a lot of resources and it's going to launch
Speaker 2: a new set of creativity where you'll see a lot
Speaker 2: of new companies start and what used to take a
Speaker 2: lot of capital and a lot of people to start
Speaker 2: a business now be able to do be handled by
Speaker 2: relatively few people, and so you might have more businesses
Speaker 2: that are able to launch and a boom of creativity
Speaker 2: and new companies. So it's difficult to tell exactly where
Speaker 2: we'll land, but I can give this advice to two
Speaker 2: people out there that are worried about their jobs, is
Speaker 2: that just stay very current on technology. Don't try to
Speaker 2: fight that and avoid technology. And I think sometimes it
Speaker 2: can be intimidating, and I think if you avoid it,
Speaker 2: it's probably you're going to be a victim of it.
Speaker 2: So make sure you embrace it, make sure you stand
Speaker 2: out against employees, make sure you're adding value to the
Speaker 2: companies that you're working with, and the chances are that
Speaker 2: you'll do fine. I do think that there is certain
Speaker 2: industries that are gonna get hit harder, like software development
Speaker 2: right now. I have associates and colleagues in there that
Speaker 2: say it's like a hunger game where they're fighting for
Speaker 2: their jobs because they know AI is going to take
Speaker 2: ten twenty percent of those jobs right and they don't
Speaker 2: know who that's going to be, and they don't want
Speaker 2: to be one of those, one of those numbers. So
Speaker 2: it's going to be tough for certain business segments for
Speaker 2: a while. But stay current on your skills, embrace the changes,
Speaker 2: and don't try.
Speaker 3: To fight it.
Speaker 1: Duwayne decent is our guest. And to follow that up, Dwayne,
Speaker 1: it would it be how to coexist with this as
Speaker 1: opposed to well, I mean fighting it is worthless, there's
Speaker 1: no point in that, but learn how to best coexist
Speaker 1: with it and what you can do to complement it.
Speaker 1: Does that make sense?
Speaker 2: It doesn't exactly. AI is designed to make your job easier,
Speaker 2: and so use those tools so that on more basic
Speaker 2: type of things, so that you're not spending your time
Speaker 2: on trivial tasks and you can use your time on
Speaker 2: creativity and launching value. So make I'M more your friend
Speaker 2: and make it work for you rather than make it
Speaker 2: work against you.
Speaker 4: Right, Well, it's kind of I know this has been
Speaker 4: debated for a long time as we've as technology continues
Speaker 4: to grow and develop and get more advanced, and this
Speaker 4: is clearly maybe this is a you know, threshold here
Speaker 4: gone over the cliffs sort of thing that does this
Speaker 4: Does this help the trades?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 4: Do people look at this and say, well, I'm I
Speaker 4: can't get a job in that industry. I really wanted to,
Speaker 4: but there's always going to be a need for people
Speaker 4: to fix my toilet and my roof and my roads
Speaker 4: and get the goods that I order from China to
Speaker 4: my front door. And does this, in the long term,
Speaker 4: you know, help help kind of that those industries.
Speaker 2: I think it does. If I was advising someone entering
Speaker 2: to college, I would tell them to caution them about
Speaker 2: trying to do some of these fields that are already
Speaker 2: being impacted. And the worst thing is that you could
Speaker 2: spend three or four years trying to get educated and
Speaker 2: into an area that eventually is going to be I
Speaker 2: won't say obsolete, but certainly diminished from where it is currently.
Speaker 2: I think it's a great opportunity to look at some
Speaker 2: of those trade skills that obviously AI can't impact. And
Speaker 2: we are very short quality contractors and trades people. So
Speaker 2: i'm I would applaud that. And when you talk about
Speaker 2: one of the booms that AI is going to create,
Speaker 2: it's gonna it's going to create a big energy demand.
Speaker 2: And if you have trade skills that are that can
Speaker 2: help with that and build on that demand.
Speaker 3: You will be in value.
Speaker 2: You will be a valuable resource.
Speaker 1: And well, we're talking to Dwayne Dees and Dwayne, let
Speaker 1: me ask you. Isn't the whole object though, of AI
Speaker 1: to ultimately replace human beings? I mean to figure out
Speaker 1: what it is we do and copy that and then
Speaker 1: learn how to do it better and grow one itself.
Speaker 1: That's the whole purpose of it. Is that not true?
Speaker 2: Well, I think that might one day be true. I
Speaker 2: think that's kind of a little bit still the science
Speaker 2: fiction of it. It might be sure, But thirty forty
Speaker 2: years from now, might it be doing that? I would
Speaker 2: say yes. But I think what it's doing initially and
Speaker 2: probably for the foreseeable future, it's going to take away
Speaker 2: more of the remedial type of tasks. Like for programmers,
Speaker 2: the high end programming and some of the more complex
Speaker 2: strategy and structures aren't yet being done by AI, and
Speaker 2: probably will remain to be done by humans. But if
Speaker 2: you're talking about the basics of programming, it's going to
Speaker 2: be done by AI. Probably it's already being done by
Speaker 2: AI and will only increase that way in the future.
Speaker 2: So I think it. I don't think it's going to
Speaker 2: start with A and anytime soon is going to start
Speaker 2: taking away high end jobs where people get that are
Speaker 2: thinking and creating and adding value innovating. Those type of
Speaker 2: jobs are going to be held by human beings for
Speaker 2: a long time, and that's why it's important to try
Speaker 2: to make yourself one of those individuals.
Speaker 4: Duane, I know you alluded to it earlier, but the
Speaker 4: industry of working in AI, if that makes sense, like,
Speaker 4: is there is there an opportunity there? Uh, you know
Speaker 4: to basically you know, I don't I don't know what
Speaker 4: the world is that you know you mentioned software. Is
Speaker 4: there even going to be even a job boom or
Speaker 4: creation in that world? And I know that's meant not
Speaker 4: to have people doing it, but people have to be
Speaker 4: in there innovating.
Speaker 1: It, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of effort to build the infrastructure
Speaker 2: of AI, to train AI and in fact, you saw
Speaker 2: some crazy numbers being put out by companies like Facebook
Speaker 2: offering kind of the head of when they stole someone
Speaker 2: from to be the head of their AI unit, was
Speaker 2: paid like one hundred million dollars essentially to come over.
Speaker 2: So you hear some just crazy numbers if you have
Speaker 2: this really specialized experience. But there's there's experience levels all
Speaker 2: over that you can that they need for AI to
Speaker 2: build the infrastructure to train. And then there's all the
Speaker 2: tangent industries like I mentioned before about power that is
Speaker 2: going to that AI needs in order to be successful.
Speaker 1: All right with that, Dwayne, we really appreciate you talking
Speaker 1: to us. People want to find out more about you,
Speaker 1: your group and what it is you do. Where can
Speaker 1: they go.
Speaker 2: It's the efficacy group that e f f F i's
Speaker 2: e f f I, c A c Y group dot
Speaker 2: com and I also put out a book called Operationally
Speaker 2: Sell where I talk about how AI is coming to
Speaker 2: play and how companies that can save money using AI.
Speaker 1: Dwayne, thanks so much, thank you, Thank you. You know
Speaker 1: they're they're coming for us, bro. You know that as
Speaker 1: well as I do. But looks like it might be
Speaker 1: a little ways off.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I still think there's more bad about AI than
Speaker 4: there is good.
Speaker 1: And then it did.
Speaker 4: Wellet another example of what I believe. It's it's ultimately
Speaker 4: going to be a net negative of jobs. So here's
Speaker 4: the thing we were.
Speaker 1: Shoot. I want to say, it's certainly been in the
Speaker 1: last ten years, and I think that's I'm stretching it
Speaker 1: big time. The last five seven years. This has gone
Speaker 1: from a novelty to when we were joking about, ah,
Speaker 1: this is all gonna take over what we do, ha,
Speaker 1: right to two or three years later is like going, oh, hell,
Speaker 1: this does getting pretty good. So now it's like so good.
Speaker 1: People are looking over their shoulders and it is then
Speaker 1: that technology is taking jobs. Now it's kind of back to.
Speaker 4: The future too, you know, and you're like all that
Speaker 4: stuff on there, You're like, Eh, that's cool to think about.
Speaker 1: That will never happen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And a lot of those things didn't happen from
Speaker 4: back to the future too, But this is and.
Speaker 1: That was sett in like twenty seventeen, right exactly. Let's
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Speaker 1: Are you seeing that at all infiltrating the well I
Speaker 1: want to call it, I'm going to call it the
Speaker 1: newsroom or the newspaper newsroom. Are you seeing that more
Speaker 1: and more? Because I know it's out there. No.
Speaker 4: No, The only thing, like you know on sin sinny
Speaker 4: dot com, like in our stories, like they'll do these
Speaker 4: little these little summaries at the top of our story,
Speaker 4: like kind of highlight. They call them highlights, and then
Speaker 4: those are AI generated and it says on there, let's
Speaker 4: let's there's a thing on every story. Or they do
Speaker 4: it with my column too on sinny dot com. Not
Speaker 4: they AI, but you just it pulls it from this
Speaker 4: what you like. So it's not like it just does
Speaker 4: a summary of it so you don't have to write it.
Speaker 4: But it pulls it from whatever you've written. It's not
Speaker 4: like you know it's written anything for you and then
Speaker 4: you know it's something you've written and now it's just
Speaker 4: using your words to summarize and put some bullet points
Speaker 4: out there, you know, for readers to see, Oh, okay,
Speaker 4: this is the highlights.
Speaker 1: Of this well. The our next guest is a fella
Speaker 1: I've known for a long time, and I believe you
Speaker 1: have as well. He wrote in uh op ed for
Speaker 1: the Inquire for Cincinnati dot Com the other day about
Speaker 1: your Cincinnati Bengals and the headline even losing the even losing,
Speaker 1: even the losing Bengals are better than losing the Bengals.
Speaker 1: This is our our buddy, Randy, Randy Furman's brother Andy. Andy.
Speaker 1: He's I think he was a little more famous before Randy.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I read this yesterday. I since say dot com.
Speaker 4: He's a member, he's on the board of contributors to
Speaker 4: the Inquir now and uh, he still brings the heat.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 1: It invokes some emotions for me, and I'll look forward
Speaker 1: to our discussion. Yeah, and and that's what a column
Speaker 1: should do. And it makes a lot in a sense
Speaker 1: what he's talking about here. And we will talk about
Speaker 1: the You know, this always comes up though, when people
Speaker 1: bitch about the Reds or the Bengals or pig at
Speaker 1: sports team, Well they suck. We'd be better off without him,
Speaker 1: the blah blah blah blah. Well you know, think if
Speaker 1: wishers were fishes, be careful what you wish for.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll we'll talk to our good friend Andy Furman.
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Speaker 1: Right, beg on the Eddie and Rocky show, Rock out
Speaker 1: today actually doing the He's doing the Miami game tonight. Right,
Speaker 1: He's in Oxford. It's Toledo Rockets Toledo and in Miami,
Speaker 1: and rock is on the scene, and I know it
Speaker 1: loves that that'll be one of the few on the scene.
Speaker 1: That's about that's about twenty minutes from his house. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: maction baby, so I call it. We have our guests
Speaker 1: now and been one to talk to this guy for ever.
Speaker 1: He's an old friend and I love his opinions on
Speaker 1: pretty much everything. And when Jason, you can discuss your
Speaker 1: opinion about his opinion. But right now I want to
Speaker 1: say hi to Argamed, Buddy, Andy Furman, fur Ball, what's going.
Speaker 3: How you guys doing doing great?
Speaker 1: Buddy, glad to see you back in the inquiry.
Speaker 3: Well, you know what, I got some heat from Burrow Love.
Speaker 3: I mean I saw Burrole recently executive editation where you've been,
Speaker 3: so he kind of put a little pressure on it.
Speaker 3: But you know what you could. You can't write all
Speaker 3: the time. You got to think of a subject manager
Speaker 3: that really would stir the pot, you know what I mean, Well,
Speaker 3: that's what you're doing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what you did when you were a host
Speaker 1: here and talking about stirring the pod.
Speaker 3: Well, you know what, it's a lot easy to talk
Speaker 3: that to put words on a computer screen, That's true,
Speaker 3: that's difficult. I give a lot of credit for those
Speaker 3: guys that do it. If you could do it two
Speaker 3: three times a week, you know, more, more power to you.
Speaker 3: It's tough.
Speaker 1: Well, the op Edge wrote the other day for Cincinnati
Speaker 1: dot Com even the losing Bengals are better than losing
Speaker 1: the Bengals, and uh, I think that speaks for itself.
Speaker 1: But I pretty much agree with everything you say there
Speaker 1: any because sports fans are if nothing else, reactionary. You know,
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year, it was you know,
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow was Joe Montana, Joe Namath and uh Y
Speaker 1: a tittle all rolled into one, and Zach Taylor was
Speaker 1: Paul Brown meets Mike, you know, meets with the with
Speaker 1: the Zimmer Brothers and Mike Tomlin. And now he is
Speaker 1: a bomb and they want him run out of town.
Speaker 1: And Joe Burrow is injury prone now and they don't
Speaker 1: care if the Bengals are here or not. That's pretty
Speaker 1: much the way it isn't it.
Speaker 3: Well it's funny because in my mind sports is nothing
Speaker 3: more than a release. And also at the hey, so
Speaker 3: these rabid people, these fans, these fanatics need to have
Speaker 3: a release, and obviously the Cincineti Bengals provide that release
Speaker 3: for them. So without the Bengals, what would they do?
Speaker 3: But more than that, I got this kind of this
Speaker 3: idea to write this on Sunday because I'm saying, what
Speaker 3: am I gonna do? There's no Bengal games, and I said, wow,
Speaker 3: what would it be like to live in a community
Speaker 3: where there's no pro football? And I have done that
Speaker 3: in the past, but you know, I don't think the
Speaker 3: national football there was as big then as it is now.
Speaker 3: It is the number one sport in America, follow up
Speaker 3: by probably college football.
Speaker 4: No, I totally I loved your piece, Andy, and like
Speaker 4: I said, glad you're backed righting on sinsini dot com.
Speaker 4: And I completely agree with everything you said. Interestingly, when
Speaker 4: I read it, it invoked this thought for me, and
Speaker 4: it's not like you were saying this or just the
Speaker 4: thought that I had, and it's you know, from covering
Speaker 4: the stadium issue for all these years and seeing how
Speaker 4: one sided that's been, I've always gotten the the message,
Speaker 4: or you know, at least my message that I've seen
Speaker 4: from the Bengals, and that approach has been just be
Speaker 4: happy you have the NFL. We brought that to you
Speaker 4: and you OUs and that's been again my general takeaway
Speaker 4: from that. And so I think part of when I
Speaker 4: was reading your piece was I'm thinking, like, yeah, like
Speaker 4: that's the attitude of the Bengals, like, you know, just
Speaker 4: be happy you have the NFL. Here everyone will give
Speaker 4: you a little pat on the head and run along.
Speaker 1: Again.
Speaker 4: You weren't saying that, but that was that was one
Speaker 4: of the thoughts that I had in reading your piece.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know. I sort of disagree with
Speaker 3: that because I think that there's nothing more Mike Brown
Speaker 3: would like to have before toolstedn't done for him is
Speaker 3: to have a Super Bowl ring. I really believe that
Speaker 3: I'd love to see him have it. You know, here's
Speaker 3: a guy, I'll say, the kind of guy Mike Brown is.
Speaker 3: He went to Dartmouth that he played football there. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and he was not in the Dartmouth Football Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3: So years ago I wrote a letter to Dartmouth saying
Speaker 3: that he should be putting the football Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3: He immediately got in touch with me and said, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: I don't want any of that. He didn't want that.
Speaker 3: You know, he's a background kind of guy. He really is.
Speaker 3: And people think the fact that he doesn't come public
Speaker 3: and speak to the media or talk to him is
Speaker 3: because he's hiding. He's not. He's that kind of a guy.
Speaker 1: He really is, right, or do you want to on
Speaker 1: the other side of the coin, do you want a
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones? Is that what you're looking for?
Speaker 3: World? Right?
Speaker 1: That's know what I'm saying. Be careful what you wish for. Fan.
Speaker 3: I'm with you on thousand percent. Look, I think the
Speaker 3: Bengals want to win. I think they've had a streak
Speaker 3: of bad luck, big time bad luck. And I'll tell
Speaker 3: you what, here's one area which I think no one
Speaker 3: has really touched on because they're pointing fingers that Joe
Speaker 3: Burrow and his injury. Look, he wasn't injured last year
Speaker 3: and they still lost, okay, and he was the best
Speaker 3: quarterback and eons with the stats that he had. Okay,
Speaker 3: so they didn't win the thing last year and he
Speaker 3: played and he was healthy. Here's the problem I see.
Speaker 3: And maybe I'm wrong because the next snap I take
Speaker 3: in the National Football League told be my first I
Speaker 3: never played for football. But the point is that I
Speaker 3: think it all comes from this top, from the top,
Speaker 3: and the top is a Mike Brown. The top is coach.
Speaker 3: And they've never had a physical coach, a mental coach,
Speaker 3: a coach that could be respected. Besides Forrest Gregg, every
Speaker 3: coach that they've had has been learning on the job.
Speaker 3: In the NFL with the Fangals, Zach Taylor was not
Speaker 3: even a coordinator. He was a quarterbacks coach, you know,
Speaker 3: and you go coach, coach, coach down the line, you know,
Speaker 3: the only one maybe Marvin Lewis, who was a defensive
Speaker 3: coordinator on the Super Bowl team with Baltimore. Other than that,
Speaker 3: I think players need to look at a guy and
Speaker 3: respect them, say he's been there, done that, and they
Speaker 3: never had a coach who's been there and done that.
Speaker 4: Another thing I really I liked in your column, Andy,
Speaker 4: was you referenced Saint Louis, and that's a town that's
Speaker 4: been jilted.
Speaker 1: Twice Mike A Goodness.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's a similar I've always I used to
Speaker 4: work in Missouri, and I've always felt like I was
Speaker 4: in a little bit of a bigger, little more cosmopolitan
Speaker 4: Cincinnati when i'd go to Saint Louis. So, you know,
Speaker 4: Catholic Midwestern town that they definitely love baseball there.
Speaker 1: We say we love baseball here.
Speaker 4: I thought that was an interesting take because you know,
Speaker 4: this is what the smallest outside of Green Bay, this
Speaker 4: is the smallest market in the NFL. So I thought
Speaker 4: your reference to that was was interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's funny how certain cities can support certain teams.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't think Cincinnati could support an NBA team,
Speaker 3: especially now. I think we're saturated with pro teams and
Speaker 3: I don't think there's that many sponsors out there to
Speaker 3: come forth with the checkbook the sponsors amount. Obviously, there's
Speaker 3: no real good place to play. There's no arena really,
Speaker 3: so I don't think they could support that or the NHL. Obviously,
Speaker 3: Saint Louis cannot support pro football for whatever reason. I
Speaker 3: don't know why, but they can't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but they have the NHL there, which is yeah, uh.
Speaker 3: They do at Pittsforsh's another city that I don't think
Speaker 3: is support the NBA. You know, they had the Pittsburgh
Speaker 3: condoors way back when in the ABA. But I don't
Speaker 3: think they could support basketball. And certain people could support
Speaker 3: certain cities could support certain teams. That's the way it is.
Speaker 1: Well, guys, let's face it that now the NFL has
Speaker 1: become the predominant franchise for any city to have. If
Speaker 1: you're going to have one sport, you want to have
Speaker 1: the NFL. And Jason kind of made a passing reference
Speaker 1: to it there, and we're talking to Andy Furman with
Speaker 1: everybody's always been talking up until recently, well, society's first
Speaker 1: and foremost a baseball town. Well, I would argue that
Speaker 1: that is not so true anymore. Yeah, I think that
Speaker 1: I could agree.
Speaker 3: I think Cincinnati's a town that's the front run of
Speaker 3: town that whatever team wins, that's the town it is.
Speaker 3: I mean, this thing became a Reds town. They really did,
Speaker 3: because the RESU made the playoffs. At the beginning of
Speaker 3: the football season, I see July August, it was football crazy,
Speaker 3: not an a football town anymore.
Speaker 1: That's an interesting you know.
Speaker 4: And I wrote a call on that when you know,
Speaker 4: the Reds were practically giving away tickets there that last
Speaker 4: week of the season, that that almost called them Steelers
Speaker 4: the Pirates series. And you had Paul Skins and the
Speaker 4: Hunter Green facing off with each other and they are
Speaker 4: given eight are they you know, eight dollars tickets and
Speaker 4: basically giving away cheap concessions and they still couldn't come
Speaker 4: anywhere near a capacity crowd, I mean thirty thousand they
Speaker 4: were celebrating that. I think that you make a great
Speaker 4: point there on that this is a front runner town.
Speaker 4: I want to ask you this, Andy, from the moment
Speaker 4: you came to town here, was it always like that? And
Speaker 4: you what you started doing sports talk late in mid nineties.
Speaker 3: Late late eighties, late eighties, eighty eighty, but you know,
Speaker 3: I would tell you what the difference is then and now.
Speaker 3: We had personalities as coaches and people loved it and
Speaker 3: they were always in the news. Yeah, Bob Huggins, Pete Gillen,
Speaker 3: you know there was a rivalry there, not even on
Speaker 3: the off the court. Yeah, generated generated buzz right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: Pete Rose, May he rest in peace. He was using
Speaker 3: manager lou Panella picking up a base and tossing it
Speaker 3: into the right field. You don't have personalities anymore as coaches.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of the last personality as a
Speaker 3: coach in this town. And Sam Wise, he's another one personality.
Speaker 3: Sunday morning, he walked the streets and feed the homeless,
Speaker 3: these guys who are just personalities. He wanted to know them,
Speaker 3: know everything about them, and you know they were close
Speaker 3: to you. They really were. Right now, it's like a
Speaker 3: button up coach. You know, he coaches the game and
Speaker 3: he goes away. And that's the closest thing is maybe
Speaker 3: Zach Taylor would give away footballs to various pubs if
Speaker 3: they're a win. And he's not doing that anymore because
Speaker 3: they don't.
Speaker 1: Wind, right, But I'd love that take though. Andy talking
Speaker 1: about Bigger than life coaches, your panelas and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But Jos sure, and but you brought up Forrest Greg earlier.
Speaker 1: I mean talk about a guy that I don't care
Speaker 1: who you were, what you thought. I don't care if
Speaker 1: you hated the Cincinnati Bengals, if you were the biggest
Speaker 1: Steelers fan, Browns fan, or what have you. You had
Speaker 1: to look at that guy and go, that guy knows
Speaker 1: what he's talking about exactly.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: I remember when Data Bible was the quarterback coach of
Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Bengals and Boomer Size and couldn't stand them
Speaker 3: because what could Data Bible teach? Boomer siacen. That's the
Speaker 3: thing you have. The guy a coach is a teacher.
Speaker 3: And if this guy doesn't have a track record as
Speaker 3: what he has done, you know, a script so to speak,
Speaker 3: how could Boomer Size and listen to Data Bible.
Speaker 6: That's what it's all about.
Speaker 3: Zach Taylor came here to learn the job on the job.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm thinking, learn the job on the job.
Speaker 3: He's a good guy. I like that. Yes, good family man,
Speaker 3: good father, good husband. But honestly he's learning, or he
Speaker 3: has learned, hopefully the job while he's been there. This
Speaker 3: team was not going on the third consecutive year. Maybe
Speaker 3: nothing in the playoffs that's heard of. And he's got
Speaker 3: to be able to not sleep well at night after
Speaker 3: the Giants fired their coach yesterday at two and eight.
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, really.
Speaker 1: With that, Andrew, we will let you go, buddy. It
Speaker 1: is our pleasure man. Thanks so much. Glad you're back,
Speaker 1: Glad Burro, god on you keep writing.
Speaker 3: You very much.
Speaker 1: See Andy, our guest, Andy Furman. Yeah, what a good guy.
Speaker 1: And I always loved his takes. Oh me too. When
Speaker 1: he he pissed up. He pissed off a lot of people.
Speaker 1: But that's the thing that's great. I mean, that's good.
Speaker 1: Like you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, makes you makes you laugh, sometimes, makes you cry,
Speaker 4: pisses you off. Sometimes that's that's good.
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Speaker 1: was fun talking to to Andy, and you know, I
Speaker 1: agree with pretty much everything he said as far as
Speaker 1: because I know you don't. I know what you're saying
Speaker 1: as well, because that is exactly what owners want to
Speaker 1: hear when things aren't going well, When things aren't going
Speaker 1: well and someone defends him and says, hey, well, when
Speaker 1: Phil Castadelini on these airwaves famously said where are you
Speaker 1: going to go?
Speaker 4: I'm glad you brought up because that was another thought
Speaker 4: I had that on this whole thing.
Speaker 1: And he wasn't wrong. He wasn't wrong, and that's what
Speaker 1: I'm that's my point. But that is what the guys
Speaker 1: pretty much. I mean, he just voiced it. Every one
Speaker 1: of these owners thinks that maybe, okay, we'll pull our
Speaker 1: franchise out of the city. Then what are you gonna do.
Speaker 4: When at the end of the day, it's actually incredibly
Speaker 4: difficult to move a franchise in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Well, once that Browns thing screwed it up, for well,
Speaker 1: the uh Baltimore Colt's going to Indy and then the
Speaker 1: Brown's going to Baltimore. That made it real hard for
Speaker 1: everybody else. I have to say, yes, very very difficult.
Speaker 1: What do you got to bring that up?
Speaker 4: By the way, art Modell, Yeah, I saw where Bernie
Speaker 4: kozars in the hospital. It was on Twitter today. Kozar
Speaker 4: has been kind of screwed up for a little bit.
Speaker 4: Well that just makes me even more mad at Art Modell.
Speaker 4: But well, you know, at this bench, I love Bernie
Speaker 4: Kosar was one of my maybe my favorite athlete growing up.
Speaker 4: Had the poster on the wall and everything back.
Speaker 1: In the day. He gave hope the slow white cause
Speaker 1: like myself. Uh but I say that, but look at
Speaker 1: what happened with the Chargers leaving San Diego. Talk about
Speaker 1: a fan base, but I think that the city pushed
Speaker 1: back on them too much. It was like when the
Speaker 1: Reds left Sarasota for spring training. The city pushed back
Speaker 1: so much or on the red just said screw these
Speaker 1: guys are going to give us everything we want. But
Speaker 1: then they left. They abandoned that fan base in San Diego.
Speaker 1: But again I think that was a San Diego city
Speaker 1: screw up. And the whole Oakland going to Vegas thing, well, barely.
Speaker 1: Everybody wants out of Oakland. So that's not bigcau. It's problem.
Speaker 1: I've been through it, but never in it. I've been
Speaker 1: to that stadium there. Yeah, I've heard it was awful.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, coming up, we're switching gears entirely and we're going
Speaker 1: to be talking to our legal expert, Jeremy Rosenthal. Remember
Speaker 1: last year that awful situation down in Texas with the
Speaker 1: camp Camp Mystic that got flooded out and not a
Speaker 1: giant loss of life, but one life is too much.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, but several kids died, some of the
Speaker 1: counselors and whatnot. Well, now the lawsuits we started, so
Speaker 1: we will be talking to Jeremy Rosenthal about that after
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Speaker 1: And this is I think I said earlier this was
Speaker 1: this happened last year because it was such a horrible thing.
Speaker 1: It seemed to me it was last year, but it
Speaker 1: was in uh in early July. I believe it was
Speaker 1: on the fourth that that awful flood he hit Camp
Speaker 1: Mystic down in Texas, sad and that kind of came
Speaker 1: out of nowhere. Obviously everybody was taken by surprise. Uh
Speaker 1: several uh, several people that were swept away by it
Speaker 1: and obviously perished, and some of the counselors were as well.
Speaker 1: And now as when the stuff like this happens, the
Speaker 1: lawsuits start, yep, and it's and they've started. Let's get
Speaker 1: to our legal expert to discuss how this could play out.
Speaker 1: He is our good friend, Jeremy Rosenthal. He's been on
Speaker 1: both sides. He has won every case in the books.
Speaker 1: This guy's undefeated, I believe in a court of law. Jeremy,
Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 20: Uh, promotions for continuance, Yes, undefeated.
Speaker 1: Undefeated, unscored upon, that's right, Uh.
Speaker 20: Right, yes, yes, yes, I'm the you know, and I
Speaker 20: listened all a mom my web page.
Speaker 5: We'll get your case continued for a week for you
Speaker 5: to go and pay your lawyer, to.
Speaker 1: Go, go get some money to pay your lawyer. So,
Speaker 1: but the serious up here, Jeremy, Jeremy Rosenthal, you're You're
Speaker 1: in the state of Texas. How do you suppose this
Speaker 1: is likely going to play out? The lawsuits have started,
Speaker 1: the families of some of the campers or starting lawsuits
Speaker 1: a couple of the counselor's families as well. What do
Speaker 1: you see happening here?
Speaker 5: Well, you got to go where the facts are going
Speaker 5: to take you on this.
Speaker 20: You got twenty seven victims, extremely tragic. Everybody's gonna deal
Speaker 20: with their grief in a different way, right and some
Speaker 20: people are going to be really conciliatory. Some people are
Speaker 20: going to bury their head in the sand never want
Speaker 20: to deal with it again. You know, it's interesting being
Speaker 20: in Texas. I know folks in Kirk County, in Kerrville,
Speaker 20: and I know local people here that that have connections,
Speaker 20: and everybody's gonna deal with it differently. When when lawsuits
Speaker 20: are filed, you've got to look at them and see
Speaker 20: if they're any good. A lot of the allegations here
Speaker 20: are saying things like, look, this camp down the road
Speaker 20: managed to do fine, what was your problem?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 20: And all these others. You know, there was a lot
Speaker 20: more folks near in proximity of the rivers that got
Speaker 20: it right. They had some cabins there that had previously
Speaker 20: had to be evacuated. You had some policies that, if
Speaker 20: you believe them, didn't make a lot of sense, and
Speaker 20: there could have been some different decisions potentially. So you
Speaker 20: just have to see if there's merit there, and if
Speaker 20: there is, then then it gets addressed. And if you're
Speaker 20: if you're bringing this lawsuit, you're doing it out of
Speaker 20: anger and and and out of a hope that nothing
Speaker 20: happens like this again.
Speaker 5: You know that that's kind of what your mind.
Speaker 3: As it is.
Speaker 1: He Jeremy.
Speaker 4: There's three three lawsuits or one of three lawsuits filed
Speaker 4: this this week Monday, includes five campers, all of them
Speaker 4: are either eight or nine years old, and two councilors
Speaker 4: eighteen year old and nineteen year old.
Speaker 24: What what is the like?
Speaker 4: What's that the crux of a lawsuit that those families are?
Speaker 4: You know, what are they what kind of damages are
Speaker 4: they seeking? And what is it that what should have happened?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Was it that you're negligent?
Speaker 4: Like, here's here's what Here's what others have businesses or
Speaker 4: camps or houses along the river do or have done
Speaker 4: to prepare for this.
Speaker 1: Here's what you didn't do? Is that is that basically it?
Speaker 1: Or you know, what's the le what's the legal part
Speaker 1: of this?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 20: Essentially, when you're when you're talking about negligence, you're talking
Speaker 20: about several different factors.
Speaker 5: You're talking that you owe a duty to make something safe.
Speaker 20: You're talking about what is reasonable and if what you
Speaker 20: did was really well below the standard of reasonable care,
Speaker 20: and it's foreseeable, right, There's got to be an element
Speaker 20: of foreseeability here. And that's the issue in this case,
Speaker 20: is going to be foreseeability. How foreseeable is it that.
Speaker 5: This would happen?
Speaker 20: In other words, you can't really come back and say
Speaker 20: this is an act of God. Therefore we're just not liable. Well,
Speaker 20: you know, when you live in a if you have
Speaker 20: a farm in Kansas, you know you're gonna get hit
Speaker 20: by tornadoes, right, and you know to have your home
Speaker 20: be equipped as best it can.
Speaker 5: And you got a basement, right, So a tornado came
Speaker 5: and did this to us.
Speaker 20: As is, you know it can happen, and if it
Speaker 20: happens despite all of your precautions, it's not your fault.
Speaker 5: It's your destiny.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 20: But but if you if you are if you if
Speaker 20: you take all the necessary precautions, then then things ought
Speaker 20: to be fine. And when it comes to children like that,
Speaker 20: you know, you really again, nobody's gonna let you off
Speaker 20: the hook for owing this duty and and and no
Speaker 20: amount of tears is going to wipe away that liability
Speaker 20: if it's there.
Speaker 1: Right, we're talking to Jeremy Rosenthal, And Jeremy, you just
Speaker 1: brought up I think the key point in all this
Speaker 1: talking about kids, and not just kids eight nine year
Speaker 1: olds stuff like that, children who can't defend them for
Speaker 1: themselves in the least. Really and uh, that would seem
Speaker 1: to be a real coffin nail for for this case,
Speaker 1: as far as can't miss it goes your thoughts on that.
Speaker 5: Very you can very well be right.
Speaker 20: Some of the policies essentially said that the parents or
Speaker 20: excuse me, rather that the counselors didn't have the independent
Speaker 20: authority to evacuate that they had to get a signal
Speaker 20: from somebody else or or permission from somebody else and
Speaker 20: so and in some instances, my understanding is that was
Speaker 20: ignored and in some instances, right, you know, something is
Speaker 20: clearly not right with the situation and clearly dangerous about
Speaker 20: the situation, yet you're sitting there just sort of waiting
Speaker 20: for it to uh you know, you're you're sitting there
Speaker 20: as as all of your options are suddenly.
Speaker 5: Very quickly going away.
Speaker 20: Also that one of the one of the lawsuits claims
Speaker 20: that the guy, the the main camp guy who ultimately
Speaker 20: died himself an hour two hours ahead of time, was
Speaker 20: when when all the flood warnings came out, started securing
Speaker 20: all the property, uh, all the equipment on the on
Speaker 20: the premises and and not not you know, getting the
Speaker 20: kids to higher ground. So that's certainly a difficult fact.
Speaker 20: So you get a lot of stuff like that to
Speaker 20: to to kind of go through, uh to to sort
Speaker 20: of figure out. But yeah, you know the fact that
Speaker 20: their kids, the fact that they can't fend for themselves. Look,
Speaker 20: it's great ambiance to have a cabin right there at
Speaker 20: the bend of a river. But but when you've had
Speaker 20: to evacuate the thing before and you're in a place
Speaker 20: that they call flood alley, you just gotta gotta be
Speaker 20: smarter than that, you know.
Speaker 5: And it's it looks for the grace of God, go
Speaker 5: I it's easy for.
Speaker 20: Me to Monday morning quarterback this thing, Uh and you know,
Speaker 20: certainly in the face of tragedy, that's.
Speaker 5: Not what we want to do.
Speaker 20: But again, we'll see if we'll see if the suit
Speaker 20: has legs, and we'll see if any of the things
Speaker 20: that they're saying have merit.
Speaker 4: Right like flood alley, yes, but never a flood of
Speaker 4: this nature where it just came so rapidly like right
Speaker 4: like that?
Speaker 1: Correct?
Speaker 3: Is that.
Speaker 4: Is that there's ever been a flood like this before
Speaker 4: in terms of how fast it came on that that's
Speaker 4: part of your defense, all right, is the act of
Speaker 4: is that does that fall in the act of God?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 20: And and that's a great point. So the act of
Speaker 20: God really has it has dual importance here. First is
Speaker 20: that if you're defending the case, that's that's how you're
Speaker 20: defending it, right, you're saying that this is an act
Speaker 20: of God. The second issue is that if there's insurance
Speaker 20: money here that you're trying to get through this lawsuit,
Speaker 20: you know, you I don't know whether or not the
Speaker 20: insurance company can try to wiggle out by saying this
Speaker 20: was an act of God, and we're not.
Speaker 5: We're not liable for for acts of God. So so
Speaker 5: it you know that part of it is.
Speaker 20: That that part of it is is certainly an element
Speaker 20: of this of this equation, you know, and again, uh,
Speaker 20: part of it to think about. This is an interesting
Speaker 20: fact which I don't know how much this is going
Speaker 20: to really weigh into all this, But the director died also,
Speaker 20: you know, one of the guys who they're blaming for
Speaker 20: a lot of the negligence and a lot of the
Speaker 20: things that were overlooked and done incorrectly. He passed, He died,
Speaker 20: you know, So it's real hard to blame that guy
Speaker 20: who who kind of gave his life. Uh maybe you know,
Speaker 20: maybe maybe some of his fault caused his own you know,
Speaker 20: his own death. But it's real hard to blame somebody
Speaker 20: who you know, the guy who went down with the Titanic, right, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well perfect example with the with that, Jeremy, we
Speaker 1: will let you go, buddy. It is always our pleasure.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
Speaker 6: All right, you got it.
Speaker 1: Thank you, take care of buddy. Are a good friend
Speaker 1: to Jeremy Rosenthal. I like, I like when you guys
Speaker 1: have him. He's he's really good and he knows what
Speaker 1: he's talking about for sure. But something that I uh
Speaker 1: was thinking about there because he brought up that they're
Speaker 1: somebody was would have said made the call to tell
Speaker 1: these people to get the hell out of there? Well,
Speaker 1: what would have had what happened? If I don't and
Speaker 1: it's all come out in the wash, I reckon. But
Speaker 1: if somebody did call one of the eighteen nineteen year
Speaker 1: old girls that were there mining these kids and said, look,
Speaker 1: you need to get out of there, and the girls
Speaker 1: either freaked out and said no, We're going to stay put.
Speaker 1: Now talk about muddy in the water that I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that. I'm just saying there were so many probabilities
Speaker 1: and possibilities here that God, this was going to go
Speaker 1: on for a little bit man, And then you know,
Speaker 1: like like some people who could provide answers potentially aren't
Speaker 1: with us anymore. Going Yeah, with that, we check in
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Speaker 1: haven't had him on in a bit because he's been
Speaker 1: on IR. We try to get him a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks ago, and I get a text back from his
Speaker 1: wife saying, Oh, Bruce is sorry that he can't be
Speaker 1: on the show. He's in the hospital right now. I
Speaker 1: think he sounds like he has bore important stuff to
Speaker 1: worry about than me, and uh, nice for her to
Speaker 1: get back with you. Well, it turns out that I've
Speaker 1: been in contact with him. Case in point, we're going
Speaker 1: to have him after the news. But he was passing
Speaker 1: a kidney stone and from everything I've heard, that is
Speaker 1: just awful. My wife had one of those last year,
Speaker 1: middle of the night. She had to go to the er.
Speaker 1: It was brutal. That's kind of I think that's kind
Speaker 1: of what happened to him. Had kind of came out
Speaker 1: of nowhere and get me to the hospital and they
Speaker 1: didn't take him long to figure out exactly what she
Speaker 1: thought her pennix burst, right, Yeah, that's what it was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember like, yeah, she was in that would seem
Speaker 1: to come from the same area. I don't know experienced it,
Speaker 1: but yeah, that a'll make sense. We will be talking
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Speaker 1: And Jay Sweet go to our guests now, and it's
Speaker 1: good to have him back. He is our good friend.
Speaker 1: Doctor Bruce Herman, board certified plastic surgeon. He hosts the
Speaker 1: weekly show Nip Talk. He has been on this show
Speaker 1: multiple times. Always love having doctor Bruce Herman. Doc, welcome back, Hey,
Speaker 1: thanks for having me.
Speaker 12: First.
Speaker 1: Rocky Today is Bigation. He is uh no, Actually he
Speaker 1: does football games for ESPN. So he's doing a football Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's doing a football game tonight. Oh all right, but
Speaker 1: you can trust Jason over here. He's all right. I
Speaker 1: got a lot of tough leading questions for you, Doc, Right, Nay,
Speaker 1: he's a really good question. He's a reporter. So Die,
Speaker 1: let's well let's talk. First off, we were talking a
Speaker 1: little bit about it a little while ago. You've been
Speaker 1: on I r uh would turn out to be kidney
Speaker 1: stones is hourly because I where we're worried about it.
Speaker 1: I told them to I was still at Jason. I
Speaker 1: don't think I said it on the air, but you know,
Speaker 1: you and I always text, and I text you to
Speaker 1: be on and I hadn't heard from me or uh right,
Speaker 1: and then I get a text back from your wife.
Speaker 1: I don't know what was going on.
Speaker 29: Yeah, man, you just caught me. Uh yeah, at a
Speaker 29: pretty bad time. So I had a kidney stone. Man,
Speaker 29: welcome to middle age. I guess start things start falling apart.
Speaker 29: And uh man, I don't know if you ever had
Speaker 29: a kidney stone, but I highly do not recommend getting
Speaker 29: one because it is very painful.
Speaker 1: And uh yeah, I did miss work.
Speaker 29: I never miss work, and it kind of freaked out
Speaker 29: my wife because like I would barely even go to
Speaker 29: the doctor. And I woke up and I was like, Dan,
Speaker 29: it's like I needed to go to the hospital like
Speaker 29: right now. Of course like that, since my wife it's
Speaker 29: like a panic because he's not used to hearing me
Speaker 29: say stuff like that. But yeah, anyway, so too a
Speaker 29: couple of weeks to get over that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I was a real bummer.
Speaker 29: But yeah, sorry I missed you guys a couple weeks ago.
Speaker 1: No, everything I've ever heard about it, doc is that
Speaker 1: that's just a hor horrible experience. Yeah, yeah, I do
Speaker 1: not recommend thumbs down. Well, let's uh, let's talk about
Speaker 1: what we're here to talk about. Millennials almost matching a
Speaker 1: gen Z shot for a shot with botox, what they're
Speaker 1: calling baby botox, and it's not given a two year
Speaker 1: old botox. Don't think that, Yeah, but young people doing essentially,
Speaker 1: doc Herman, the is it? It's prevented. They're considering it preventative. Yeah,
Speaker 1: prevented botox. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I talk about this all the time.
Speaker 1: And you know, you may be surprised.
Speaker 29: When I say what age I think people should start botox.
Speaker 29: I bet it'll be a little earlier than you think.
Speaker 29: I believe around thirty is a good time. And the
Speaker 29: reason I used that age group is because in our
Speaker 29: thirties is when the lines that we have on our
Speaker 29: forehead and around our eyes and between our eyebrows start
Speaker 29: to get permanently etched in from just repetitive motion, repetitive
Speaker 29: motion over the decades, and so if you start using
Speaker 29: botox before those lines start setting in, you'll never get them.
Speaker 29: And I always use my wife as an example. She
Speaker 29: probably hates this, but you know, she did that exact thing.
Speaker 29: She started using botox right about the time that I
Speaker 29: got into plastic surgery. And now she's fifty years old,
Speaker 29: and she doesn't have any wrinkles, and it looks, you know,
Speaker 29: very natural.
Speaker 1: It's not like a fake look.
Speaker 29: It's just that the wrinkles that she would normally have
Speaker 29: at this age, just from using those muscles for frowning
Speaker 29: and raising your eyebrows and smiling around your eyes, have
Speaker 29: never formed. And so, you know, I think getting that
Speaker 29: twenty is a little bit aggressive, honestly. I mean, it
Speaker 29: would stop the passive lines. But I think people look
Speaker 29: so young at twenty anyway, I'm not sure they're gaining
Speaker 29: a whole lot.
Speaker 3: But yeah, ask me.
Speaker 29: I mean, I think thirty is a reasonable age or
Speaker 29: even a little bit later.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 29: And I've always said this, I do honestly believe, and
Speaker 29: I and I don't make hardly any money from doing botox,
Speaker 29: but I do honestly believe that botox is one of
Speaker 29: the lowest hanging fruits that you can do if you
Speaker 29: want to look young into your middle years.
Speaker 1: We're talking to doctor Bruce Herman and the doc to
Speaker 1: use your well, you use your poor wife as an
Speaker 1: example again, but what you're sorry you were saying, she's
Speaker 1: you know, she's fifty, but you know it doesn't have
Speaker 1: the wrinkles and stuff and it looks natural. Is that
Speaker 1: the reason why so many of the Hollywood people we
Speaker 1: see they wait until they are fifty and get botox
Speaker 1: or plastic surgery, and so it's so noticeable as opposed
Speaker 1: to just like never really taking over the course of time.
Speaker 29: Yeah, it really when you when you talk about people
Speaker 29: looking unnaturally, it does kind of depend on what treatment
Speaker 29: you're talking about. I mean, you can definitely look unnatural
Speaker 29: botox if it's overdone.
Speaker 1: And you have like zero expression, and so.
Speaker 29: Really good boatoks will eliminate the wrinkles but still leave
Speaker 29: you normal facial expressions, and there's definitely an artistry to it,
Speaker 29: which means, you know, if you're a consumer out there
Speaker 29: wanting to get botox, you got to find somebody that's
Speaker 29: good and just like finding a good hairstylist.
Speaker 1: Sometimes that can be a challenge.
Speaker 29: But you know, a lot of the Hollywood celebrities look overdone,
Speaker 29: mostly due to fillers. I mean, there's just such a
Speaker 29: fine line with fillers between looking good and looking natural
Speaker 29: and oops, now I look like an alien like Madonna
Speaker 29: did back a few years ago.
Speaker 1: Uh so, you know, I mean, I'm a I'm a
Speaker 1: poor live hope. She never listened to show. She does
Speaker 1: use a few fillers, but of course, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: the one doing them.
Speaker 29: And I guarantee you no one would think that she'd
Speaker 29: ever had fillers, Like, no one, because they're done properly.
Speaker 1: They're very subtle.
Speaker 29: They you know, fix some of the normal kind of
Speaker 29: fault to the face that you get as you, you know,
Speaker 29: get into your forties and fifties, but you don't go
Speaker 29: past that point where it starts to be noticeable.
Speaker 3: So I think.
Speaker 29: Celebrities oftentimes get a little bit and they look better
Speaker 29: and they're like more more or more right, and then suddenly,
Speaker 29: you know, like.
Speaker 1: You look like a completely different person.
Speaker 29: So yeah, they really need to like come have me
Speaker 29: be their personal like you know, uh, you know, advisors going.
Speaker 3: To like ghet the stop button.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 4: So if you're doing the preventative at a younger age thirty,
Speaker 4: like you said, around thirty years old, do you even
Speaker 4: can you even notice it? Like if I had a
Speaker 4: friend's thirty and he or she did it, and I
Speaker 4: would would I even be able to tell if the
Speaker 4: person did or not?
Speaker 1: Uh, if you know what to look for, yes, but
Speaker 1: most people don't.
Speaker 6: Like I can tell when someone's had botox.
Speaker 29: Even if it's really really good, But like, would it
Speaker 29: be noticeable to the average person. No, not if it's
Speaker 29: properly done.
Speaker 1: Uh. So you know, if you're thirty and you want
Speaker 1: to get it, you can get it.
Speaker 29: And I promise nobody will know unless they're just like
Speaker 29: in the business and know the very subtle things to
Speaker 29: look for.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know it's preventative treatment.
Speaker 24: Man.
Speaker 1: If you get it and you stick with it, like,
Speaker 1: you will not get those wrinkles. And I guarantee eventually
Speaker 1: all of us.
Speaker 29: And I'm starting to get them myself, and my office
Speaker 29: is hounded me to start botox, and I've been telling
Speaker 29: them know, but uh yeah, I mean eventually you get them.
Speaker 1: Time catches up with all of this.
Speaker 29: But you know, botox is one of those things that
Speaker 29: can kind of keep at least the wrinkles on the
Speaker 29: forehead between the eyebrows and then the smile lines or
Speaker 29: crow's feed from ever developing.
Speaker 4: So if you're doing it as a preventative measure at
Speaker 4: that again, at younger age, like do you does it
Speaker 4: give you physically? Make you feel good? Does it make
Speaker 4: your face feel good? Or I guess it doesn't even
Speaker 4: matter if you're doing it. You're even doing it matter
Speaker 4: if you're doing it at sixty like do you again,
Speaker 4: not not the vanity part of it, but even like
Speaker 4: a physical feeling from it.
Speaker 29: Yeah, so there's no physical feeling. But there is a
Speaker 29: very interesting side effect from getting botox. And this is
Speaker 29: not something that we really tut but I assure you
Speaker 29: it's real.
Speaker 1: I mean almost.
Speaker 29: I don't want to say every patient, but I have
Speaker 29: so many patients tell me this. If you have a
Speaker 29: history of headaches and you get botox, there is a
Speaker 29: very very high likelihood that you will see a notable
Speaker 29: decrease in the amount of headaches you get. Why, because
Speaker 29: of the muscles of the scalp oftentimes of the origin
Speaker 29: of headaches, and so by relaxing those muscles, you oftentimes
Speaker 29: will see if you have chronic headaches.
Speaker 3: That they get better.
Speaker 1: We're talking to doctor Bruce Herman and Doc Okay, let's
Speaker 1: say I started at thirty, am I if am I
Speaker 1: now obligated to get these more or less for the
Speaker 1: rest of my life. If I quit doing it, say
Speaker 1: when I'm sixty, is my face just going to drop off?
Speaker 1: Like picture of Dorian Gray or some such or what's
Speaker 1: the deal?
Speaker 6: No, basically what would happen, Say, for example, you.
Speaker 29: Do it from thirty to forty, and if forty rolls
Speaker 29: along in your life, you know what, forget this, I'm done.
Speaker 29: So you basically stop the clock as far as those
Speaker 29: rinking wrinkles forming. But now when you stop the boatox
Speaker 29: the clock starts, and so you basically have ten years
Speaker 29: you know, advantage of those wrinkles not forming. But if
Speaker 29: you stop using it and then those muscles start working again,
Speaker 29: over time, those wrinkles would develop, and they probably would
Speaker 29: develop a little bit quicker as we age because the
Speaker 29: skin is not quite as resilient, it doesn't have as
Speaker 29: much elasticity, and it's a little bit more prone to
Speaker 29: wrinkle anyway.
Speaker 3: Just with normal aging.
Speaker 1: That's that's fascinating. So how did.
Speaker 4: How did this phenomenon even get started of younger folks
Speaker 4: thinking or like wanting to do this prevented?
Speaker 1: Was this a TikTok thing or some money?
Speaker 2: That's that's the biggest one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you hit the nail on the head.
Speaker 29: And there's a lot of reasons why younger people are
Speaker 29: getting more procedures done. And we know this from the
Speaker 29: data that the American syudio plastic surgeons look at every
Speaker 29: year on who is getting what. And we've seen a
Speaker 29: trend in the last ten years that the average age
Speaker 29: of people seeking treatments is starting to go down. Historically,
Speaker 29: plastic surgery was reserved for like, you know, only middle
Speaker 29: aged people. They're only ones that are doing or even older.
Speaker 29: But what's happened, you know, social media has hit a rise.
Speaker 29: People are seeing you know, pictures of themselves on their socials,
Speaker 29: they're seeing their their video when they're doing zoom calls
Speaker 29: these days, the so called zoom effect. They're seeing influencers
Speaker 29: and celebrities talk about these treatments all the time. And
Speaker 29: so then and there's also that you know, unrealistic expectation
Speaker 29: of beauty that's been in the.
Speaker 3: United States forever.
Speaker 29: So when you combine all those things, but you hit
Speaker 29: the nail on the head mostly the rise of social
Speaker 29: media and the things that come along with that. It's
Speaker 29: not really surprising at all that younger people are starting
Speaker 29: to seek out these treatments.
Speaker 2: And I think it's okay partly.
Speaker 29: I mean, again, you know, at thirty year old get
Speaker 29: in botox, I don't have a problem with that. You know,
Speaker 29: there was a story and I don't know if you
Speaker 29: guys were going to bring this one up, but I
Speaker 29: did a segment on my show a few weeks back
Speaker 29: about a twenty nine year old getting a facelift, and
Speaker 29: I was just like, what, who what doctor would do
Speaker 29: a facelift on a twenty.
Speaker 1: Nine year old?
Speaker 29: And so yeah, I mean that's just like a whole
Speaker 29: nother discussion when you start to dive into surgeries that
Speaker 29: are generally reserved for people that are, you know, fifty
Speaker 29: or sixty and you're getting them a twenty Like, I mean,
Speaker 29: that's a problem.
Speaker 1: I do have a big issue with that. So this
Speaker 1: was like the normal person, not some you know, elephant
Speaker 1: man kind of person or victim of an accent or something.
Speaker 1: It would just some mirando nine year old decided they
Speaker 1: wanted to look like young Madonna or something.
Speaker 3: That's totally crazy.
Speaker 29: And so, you know, one of my biggest, you know,
Speaker 29: gripes about doing a facelift is, you know, one of
Speaker 29: the major parts of doing a face lift is tightening
Speaker 29: the deep structures of the face. So there's a fashion
Speaker 29: layer along the muscle and then also the muscle of
Speaker 29: the neck which starts to fall as we age, and
Speaker 29: that's really what a facelift is doing, is tightening those
Speaker 29: deep structures.
Speaker 1: In addition tightening the skin.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's almost impossible for someone in.
Speaker 29: Their twenties to have any fall of those structures, but
Speaker 29: I will give a very very small asterisk.
Speaker 6: If it's safe.
Speaker 29: For example, somebody weighed four hundred pounds and then suddenly
Speaker 29: they get on neozimbic and they lose two two hundred
Speaker 29: and fifty pounds, it might be possible. That would be
Speaker 29: maybe the only time where I was like, Okay, this
Speaker 29: very very young person actually does have the issues that
Speaker 29: are corrected by facelift. But I saw the pictures of
Speaker 29: this girl and that was not the case. You know,
Speaker 29: somebody took advantage of this poor girl, and actually I
Speaker 29: looked it up. She actually went out of the country
Speaker 29: she did in Turkey, which you know we've talked about medical. Yeah,
Speaker 29: we talked about medical tourism all the time and how
Speaker 29: I really don't like it, and so, you know, at
Speaker 29: least was thankful to know that, you know, some regular
Speaker 29: plastic surgeon. It's not doing facelifts on people in their twenties.
Speaker 29: That would really kind of make me upset. But yeah,
Speaker 29: this was out of the country.
Speaker 1: All right, with that, doc, we will let you go.
Speaker 1: People want to find out more. Where can they go
Speaker 1: to five you?
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 29: So I have my weekly podcast, Nip Talk It air
Speaker 29: due to every Friday Vibe. You can catch the segments
Speaker 29: as we put them up along along the league if
Speaker 29: you don't watch the whole show. Also, I do a
Speaker 29: lot on Instagram under Dallas Nip Tuck. So'd love for
Speaker 29: you guys to come out and check out my stuff.
Speaker 1: All right, buddy, thanks so much. All it's all good
Speaker 1: to talk to you guys. Glad you're feeling better. Thank
Speaker 1: you our good friend doctor Bruce Herman. But yeah, it's
Speaker 1: pretty bad when a surgeon says I would never do
Speaker 1: that surgery, but that yeah, because I would say, I
Speaker 1: bet a facelift is a nice, nice paycheck for a doctor.
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Speaker 1: you by the fine folks at Joseph Chevrolet. Our good
Speaker 1: friend Bill Cunningham, now Willie. Earlier in the program, we
Speaker 1: talked to your good friend Andy Furman. Oh, yes, the
Speaker 1: fur Ball, her ball, who was correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: He was not the first replacement for Bob Trumpy.
Speaker 6: Why, you know, back in the good old days after
Speaker 6: the Trumps, he left for the glories that lie ahead.
Speaker 6: Uh you had Chris Collinsworth's kind of in the bullpen
Speaker 6: warming up, you had the fur Ball warming up. You
Speaker 6: had one or two others, but fur Ball was the
Speaker 6: main shall we say, a clog. But Collinsworth needed so
Speaker 6: much help, didn't understand media. Trump told him to quit
Speaker 6: talking like you're a trumpet, like you're some sort of
Speaker 6: a hillbilly. You got to get rid of that twang.
Speaker 6: And uh so, and he was there with his dulcet
Speaker 6: tones to keep the.
Speaker 1: New York, New York accent, yes accents.
Speaker 6: So, yes, he was there. He was a legend and
Speaker 6: he was good. And you know, a sports talk has
Speaker 6: had many great and some not so great, but nonetheless, yes,
Speaker 6: he was there. And I want to bring up something
Speaker 6: that Jason brought up with your permission, that he because
Speaker 6: I'm watching it right now on nine where nine stands
Speaker 6: for news. Please, yeah, right now, I'm watching Joe Burrow
Speaker 6: run around the practice facility with nothing on his feet
Speaker 6: at all, throwing eighty yard touchdown passes to Jamar Chase
Speaker 6: in the corner of the end zone, and Joe Flaco
Speaker 6: is fielding balls for Joe Burrow. Could there be a
Speaker 6: surprise come come Sunday. Could it be that Burrow is activated?
Speaker 6: Flaco's AC joint continues to hurt. And in order to
Speaker 6: say save the season, you got to win at Pittsburgh
Speaker 6: and you got to win it home against New England,
Speaker 6: who might be the best team in the NFC right now.
Speaker 6: And if you lose those two games and you're three
Speaker 6: and eight, you mazo, you maso, yurinate away the season
Speaker 6: because it's over. And So I'm watching Joe right now
Speaker 6: on Channel nine and I'm watching him throw the ball
Speaker 6: and running around. I'm thinking, Hey, what are we watching here?
Speaker 6: It's been what about Uh, it's been all about two months,
Speaker 6: not quite two months, from the second game of the
Speaker 6: year until now. But Jason, what do you think? What
Speaker 6: are your orthopedic sources tell you about Joe Burrow?
Speaker 1: This is news to me.
Speaker 4: I mean, I knew he was a practice I just
Speaker 4: I didn't put two and two together. So, but I
Speaker 4: knew Flacco is not practicing to give a shoulder rest
Speaker 4: now now, now, Zach Taylor did come out. I believe
Speaker 4: it was Zach or someone did come out and make
Speaker 4: it clear in his press conference on Monday that he
Speaker 4: will not be playing against Pittsburgh. So I wonder if
Speaker 4: he was heading off your question here, WILLI knowing that
Speaker 4: Flacco was going to take a break and give the
Speaker 4: shoulder a break, which he did prior to the Bears game,
Speaker 4: and then through for nearly five hundred yards. Right, yeah,
Speaker 4: my question back to you, Willie, Yeah right, yeah, I
Speaker 4: just I'm not going to practice during the week, but
Speaker 4: I'll go through for five hundred on the Saturday or
Speaker 4: on Sunday.
Speaker 1: And all the team still is can can George Burrow?
Speaker 4: Can he tackle? Is the big question. That's my question
Speaker 4: for you, because that's the problem. If you haven't heard yet,
Speaker 4: that's the problem.
Speaker 6: The defense is like the imagine O line in World
Speaker 6: War One with the French Army. As the hunt came
Speaker 6: around the right side, imagine the line didn't apply. Now
Speaker 6: this brings up I brought this up to Almo, and
Speaker 6: that is this. I'm watching all the shows simultaneously, and
Speaker 6: the Jets need a quarterback badly, and they got seven
Speaker 6: first round draft picks, so one of the pundits that
Speaker 6: now is the time for the Bengals to trade Joe
Speaker 6: Burrow to the Jets, to New York, give the Bengals
Speaker 6: seven draft picks like the Herschel Walker trade to Dallas
Speaker 6: so many years ago, and then Duke Duke, Duke Totman
Speaker 6: can pick all the stars in the future.
Speaker 3: How about that one?
Speaker 1: Hell no, no, well, what what would the fan base?
Speaker 1: I heard you talking to Rocky about that the other
Speaker 1: day too, and I think Rocky pretty much just said
Speaker 1: what Jason said. But could you imagine the fan base
Speaker 1: here would be, Man, It'd be like a Frankenstein movie.
Speaker 1: They'd be pitchforks and torches in the street, the ladders.
Speaker 6: On the side of Pey Court, they'd be going up
Speaker 6: the building. But nobody in New York shut that down.
Speaker 6: They said, you know what, that's a good idea that
Speaker 6: Jessy haven't had a quarterbacks showed name it's and so
Speaker 6: it might be good to get another Joe in town.
Speaker 6: And I'm thinking, are you crazy? Are you? Can you
Speaker 6: see Jamar Chase and can you see the great number
Speaker 6: one in five te going crazy about getting rid of
Speaker 6: You know that's not gonna What we need is somebody
Speaker 6: that can pick defensive players that within two or three
Speaker 6: years can play defense. Does that make sense to anybody?
Speaker 6: Can Why get Duke Tobin more force round draft choices? Hell?
Speaker 6: He says, the two best draft picks I made with
Speaker 6: Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase. Well, hell, a blind, dumb
Speaker 6: befoone pool would have made those picks.
Speaker 1: Exactly that exactly bragged. God, that's true. Let's put this.
Speaker 4: Eddie and I had Eddie and I had Mark with
Speaker 4: a c Amazon on last week and he was all over,
Speaker 4: he's all about trading Joe Burrow.
Speaker 1: Can we put that the rest?
Speaker 6: Come on? Oh my gosh, come on, that'd be like
Speaker 6: trading Hunter Green. Not quite the thing.
Speaker 1: But nevertheless, whoa screeched. But let me let me ask
Speaker 1: you guys something, because Burrow has become a bit of
Speaker 1: a name it style kind of guy.
Speaker 6: He is.
Speaker 1: He's getting a little bit of Hollywood. Now, do you
Speaker 1: think that Joe Burrow might indeed welcome a trade to
Speaker 1: New York City?
Speaker 6: The Bright Light, the Rano Jason. You might recall that
Speaker 6: Joe Namath Poe's nude supposedly for some point of Playgirl magazine,
Speaker 6: and Joe Burrow is want to dress on the runway
Speaker 6: in New York? Or what's that parrot?
Speaker 1: Harris?
Speaker 6: Was that Paris? To me, that wasn't a good look.
Speaker 6: Joe Burrow in a dress. I'm thinking, Joe, what are
Speaker 6: you doing? Man? You're from your life from Athens, Ohio?
Speaker 6: For God's sakes, what are you doing? But but Joe
Speaker 6: Namath was shall we say, uh i advan guard when
Speaker 6: it came to not wearing clothes getting pictures taken. I
Speaker 6: think that was a perfume commercial of one type or another,
Speaker 6: male cologne or whatever. And I'm thinking, look, you know,
Speaker 6: New York at the capital of the world. Yeah, I'm thinking,
Speaker 6: what are we doing? All I want to do is
Speaker 6: win some football games and get the glory of his
Speaker 6: first two seasons back. But you know, we got the toe,
Speaker 6: we got the calf, we got the knee, you got
Speaker 6: the appendix, you got the wrists, you got the wrist
Speaker 6: and the appendix, and you got the toe and the
Speaker 6: knee and the calf. And I'm thinking this doesn't look
Speaker 6: this is not good. But I'm watching Channel ninth. Got
Speaker 6: him throwing balls. I'm thinking, well, maybe maybe maybe for
Speaker 6: New England at.
Speaker 1: Home he can throw, But man, I'll tell you what
Speaker 1: if and well, if Rocky were he can speak to it,
Speaker 1: and I think I can speak for Rogan. This one
Speaker 1: is kind of a no brainer. If guys know that
Speaker 1: he's at least bit hobbled with a toe injury, they're
Speaker 1: going to come after him like the fifth cavalry Man.
Speaker 3: Blitz bl it'll.
Speaker 6: And if one thing we've learned, you're plugging one Joe
Speaker 6: for another Joe, it's kind of the same. I'm thinking, Okay,
Speaker 6: the offense, I think fighting officially Flacco through for four
Speaker 6: hundred and seventy five yards. Could Burrow have done any better?
Speaker 6: I don't think so. The problem is giving up one
Speaker 6: thousand and fifty yards on defense in the last two games. Now,
Speaker 6: there's the problem, Sherlock. That's what you gotta fix, not
Speaker 6: the offense. Even the running game has gotten so much better,
Speaker 6: and money Mack is not issue any more bad checks.
Speaker 6: Money Max is kicking the ball through the upright. We've
Speaker 6: got the offense. It's going for fifty points a game,
Speaker 6: and I still can't win.
Speaker 1: Listen. I mean, it's been it's been, It's been discussed widely,
Speaker 1: and it's been bitched about widely. Them losing that Jets game.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, that was not only icing on the cake,
Speaker 1: that was lighting the candle on the birthday kick right there,
Speaker 1: blowing it out.
Speaker 6: That's just no. And now the next five games are
Speaker 6: shall we say, difficult, and Baltimore looks to be real.
Speaker 6: Pittsburgh is new England came out of nowhere. Jason, are
Speaker 6: they the best team in the AFC?
Speaker 4: I don't know, Colts. The Colts are pretty good, and
Speaker 4: I don't count Baltimore out. Baltimore might ultimately be the
Speaker 4: best team in the AFC. Their defense is a little
Speaker 4: bit concerning, but Lamar's back. They've won three in a row.
Speaker 4: How did Colts defense get so good? With the Bengals
Speaker 4: cast off defensive coordinating.
Speaker 1: The Bengals fired this guy, see he must not be
Speaker 1: very good.
Speaker 6: Gets fired. Oh he goes to Colts and just kick.
Speaker 3: The ass all over the middle of the ass.
Speaker 6: Mister ass. We got this guy from Notre Dame who's
Speaker 6: not golden. And I'm thinking, Okay, maybe it's not the coach,
Speaker 6: Maybe it's the players. Just possibly it's the person maybe
Speaker 6: like the players. Maybe I don't know. Maybe, but he
Speaker 6: did he did take Borrow and Chase, So please give
Speaker 6: Tobin some credit, will you.
Speaker 1: Well, when we were talking to football earlier, he did
Speaker 1: see he was talking about old school coaches and how
Speaker 1: the Bengals do not have that. Zach Taylor's is a
Speaker 1: fine as a very fine man, good family man. Seems
Speaker 1: to the players seem to like him, but everyone he
Speaker 1: was he was calling back the days of Forrest Greg.
Speaker 1: Not only did the players like him, but they were
Speaker 1: scared to death of that man.
Speaker 6: He would look at you, so I remember, I remember
Speaker 6: lapping mothers used to say that in a practice laugh
Speaker 6: and lost the tooth or two and uh Greg, Greg
Speaker 6: picked it up, put it in his pocket and said,
Speaker 6: we'll deal with this when the season ends. Well, okay,
Speaker 6: when the season's over, will give you back your tooth.
Speaker 6: But now, I mean the head coach in Detroit, what's
Speaker 6: his name, is a Campbell or something that guys old school.
Speaker 6: The rest of it is all people like you know,
Speaker 6: the Rams and and the Bengals, and you know Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 6: They got to they got a search party out for
Speaker 6: Mike Tomlin in Pittsburgh. He doesn't win to go far
Speaker 6: enough from the playoffs. Hell, it's me the third year
Speaker 6: in there. We missed the playoffs. But you know, the
Speaker 6: old school coaches are done. The players won't play for him.
Speaker 1: All right with the With that, Willie, maybe it's time
Speaker 1: for you to get out your Fedora and head out
Speaker 1: there to the field, put on your old check sports coat,
Speaker 1: and coach a little football.
Speaker 6: One thing in my life I've not done is coach
Speaker 6: will played football. And thank god I still have a life.
Speaker 6: And I got knees.
Speaker 1: Thank god I didn't do that, Willie. Thanks so much,
Speaker 1: odd blessed American.
Speaker 6: Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, Bye bye there go.
Speaker 29: Uh.
Speaker 1: But that's that's funny. Him sitting there watching TV, analyzing
Speaker 1: every possible thing.
Speaker 3: That he had.
Speaker 1: I can just see it's all he does. Like a
Speaker 1: plays golf and watches TV like a crazy like a
Speaker 1: crazy man, sitting there with about five five TVs, sitting
Speaker 1: there just in his you know, kickback in his lounge chair,
Speaker 1: drinking energy drinks, screaming at the TV. Good times, man,
Speaker 1: very good times. Coming up. You're going to be talking
Speaker 1: to Alex Stone from ABC after the news here at
Speaker 1: the bottom of the hour, and tomorrow Rock will be
Speaker 1: back with us and we will have your friend Jason
Speaker 1: Hoffin doing a little sports picking. You might have to
Speaker 1: join us on that one time and do a little
Speaker 1: guest picking or something. All right, that'd be fun. I
Speaker 1: could I could help with that. I do a little
Speaker 1: pick and pool every week.
Speaker 3: All right?
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Speaker 1: Jason Williams in for Rocky Today. Just a little while longer,
Speaker 1: but before we get out of here, Jason, Now, this story,
Speaker 1: I haven't read much into it, but I saw a
Speaker 1: story on the news on TV shoot. I'm going to
Speaker 1: say it was last week sometime and I had no
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Speaker 1: is wild Alex Stone. This missing little girl I believe
Speaker 1: started in California, right, Yeah.
Speaker 30: Yeah, so it's really nationwide now. But separately, today her mom,
Speaker 30: Ashley Buzzard, was in court because she was arrested on
Speaker 30: Friday on a unrelated charge, but it got her into
Speaker 30: custody for false imprisonment, and then she was in court
Speaker 30: today looking really different because investigators have said she typically
Speaker 30: wears wigs and makeup, and in court today didn't look
Speaker 30: like she had a wig on, a real short curly
Speaker 30: hair and no makeup. So she was brought into court
Speaker 30: and she played it not guilty to a charge of
Speaker 30: false imprisonment. And this is allegedly where she had kind
Speaker 30: of befriended this guy involving the case of her missing
Speaker 30: daughter and held him against his will and she had
Speaker 30: a box cutter last week preventing him from leaving her home,
Speaker 30: and so she was arrested. The judge today said, based
Speaker 30: off of that single charge, he's got to release her
Speaker 30: with a GPS ankle monitor on. So she was granted
Speaker 30: released today and the judge a short time to go
Speaker 30: in court in Santa Barbara County. Sand Man, you're released
Speaker 30: on supervised release. But as all of this is going
Speaker 30: on with that false imprisonment charge, the bigger story around
Speaker 30: Ashley Buzzer, it is that her daughter disappeared over a
Speaker 30: month ago, and she's not helping at all to find her,
Speaker 30: and there is no indication of where she is. So
Speaker 30: on October fourteenth, the local school district in Santa Barbara
Speaker 30: County called the Sheriff's office asking for a welfare check
Speaker 30: because nine year old Melody Buzzard had not been seen.
Speaker 30: They thought at the time, in over a year that
Speaker 30: she was allegedly being homeschooled, although there's no indication she
Speaker 30: actually was being homeschooled. She had no friends, she was
Speaker 30: not around any family members, and Melody Buzzard had not
Speaker 30: been checked in with school in over a year. So
Speaker 30: initially they thought this little girl had just disappeared a
Speaker 30: year earlier and nobody had noticed. Well, they have now
Speaker 30: figured out that on October seventh of this year that
Speaker 30: Ashley the mother, and Melody, the nine year old daughter,
Speaker 30: that they were seen on surveillance video running a car
Speaker 30: in Santa Barbara and they went on a three day
Speaker 30: road trip to Nebraska and back. On that road trip,
Speaker 30: the nine year old wore wigs. Mom did as well.
Speaker 30: She had a wig on the nine year old when
Speaker 30: they rented the car and a hoodie hood up, so
Speaker 30: it seemed like trying to hide her identity. The mom,
Speaker 30: Ashley allegedly changed the rental car's license plates from California
Speaker 30: to New York plates. They don't know where she got
Speaker 30: the New York plates and then put the California ones
Speaker 30: back on before she returned that rental car. But when
Speaker 30: she returned the rental car in Santa Barbara, Melody was gone.
Speaker 30: She disappeared on that road trip and on October fourteenth,
Speaker 30: deputies that went to the home after the school called
Speaker 30: and Raquel Zick is with the Santa Barbara County Sheriff's Office.
Speaker 30: She says deputies went to the hall.
Speaker 28: These did contact the mom at the residence, but she
Speaker 28: was unable to give us a fireball or reasonable explanation
Speaker 28: up to where Melody was.
Speaker 30: So they executed a search warrant and they have found
Speaker 30: no signs of the girl. They have since tracked down
Speaker 30: the Melody was last scene alive. They found surveillance video
Speaker 30: on that road trip from October ninth on the Colorado
Speaker 30: side of the Colorado Utah border. There is a big
Speaker 30: FBI search underway over multiple states today looking for Melody.
Speaker 30: There is no evidence she's alive. There is no evidence
Speaker 30: that she's dead, and she could be anywhere in the
Speaker 30: world at this point. If she is alive. Bill Garcia
Speaker 30: is a private investigator searching for Melody on the father's
Speaker 30: side of the family. The dad of Melody died years
Speaker 30: ago in a motorcycle accident, but the family is paying
Speaker 30: for this private investigator. He is retracing their steps right now.
Speaker 30: He's at the Colorado Utah border and he says, there's
Speaker 30: no signs of anything.
Speaker 3: I don't see any of the signs that will indicating
Speaker 3: Melody's life was taken and that she may be out
Speaker 3: anywhere near there.
Speaker 30: So this point, if she's alive, they don't know where
Speaker 30: she is. Investigators say Mom is being totally uncooperative. They
Speaker 30: have no indication of what happened to Melody on that
Speaker 30: road trip or why they were wearing wigs or switching
Speaker 30: license plates. Lily Dennis is Melody's paternal grandmother. She was
Speaker 30: at court today. She's mad. She wants answers from Ashley.
Speaker 11: I don't think big here with puncture.
Speaker 29: I don't care to put me in.
Speaker 30: Jill, but I want to know and nobody knows. So
Speaker 30: today Ashley Buzzard. She's being released from jail on that
Speaker 30: false imprisonment charge. She's gonna have to wear that GPS
Speaker 30: monitor so they'll have an idea of where she is.
Speaker 30: But she's not helping find her nine year old daughter.
Speaker 30: And by the way, the last photo, the photo that's
Speaker 30: been out there of Melody was from two years ago
Speaker 30: and she was seven years old. They don't have There
Speaker 30: is not a more updated photo of this little girl.
Speaker 30: There's the surveillance video of them running the car, but
Speaker 30: she was wearing a wig with a hoodie over it.
Speaker 30: Not a real good picture of her, the last real.
Speaker 6: Photo of her.
Speaker 30: And you know a seven year old going from seven
Speaker 30: to nine years old can change a lot. But the
Speaker 30: last photo they have of her is over two years old.
Speaker 30: Nobody had seen her between that time.
Speaker 4: Wow, my head spinning here, Alex. Is the fact that
Speaker 4: the judge and what was the case again where she
Speaker 4: has to work?
Speaker 31: Yeah, the false imprisonment they did that judge, Is he
Speaker 31: or she make her wear this ankle monitor knowing the
Speaker 31: other other side of this story, or is that illegal
Speaker 31: to even do that?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 30: So he said today as a prosecutor said, look, you're
Speaker 30: on her she needs to remain in custody. Look at
Speaker 30: this other case where she was switching license plates and
Speaker 30: wearing wigs and the dada.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 30: I hate to tell you, I can't bring that into
Speaker 30: consideration because she hasn't been charged with anything. There's no
Speaker 30: crime in that yet.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 30: And they, you know, because they don't have a body,
Speaker 30: they don't know what happened to her. You're not kidnapping
Speaker 30: your own daughter. They don't know. I mean, maybe she's
Speaker 30: alive with somebody. There's indications that she has told people
Speaker 30: that maybe she's alive in Utah and she was handed
Speaker 30: to somebody, So they don't.
Speaker 24: Know, you know.
Speaker 30: So he said, just based on the law, he's got
Speaker 30: to go on what you would do with a false
Speaker 30: imprisonment count for telling somebody they can't leave a room
Speaker 30: and can't rely on anything involving the missing girl until
Speaker 30: there's something that links her to that. So he had
Speaker 30: to go based just on the false imprisonment. But but
Speaker 30: he definitely knew about it.
Speaker 1: All right with that, Alex, we will let you go, buddy,
Speaker 1: Thanks so much. You got to thank thanks Alex. Well,
Speaker 1: I yah, and thanks Alex. That's just an awful story, man,
Speaker 1: I think of getting into talking about kids and just
Speaker 1: that I think that will pissed any normal personal But
Speaker 1: have you ever in your kids are held now nine
Speaker 1: and twelve, actually, oh my twelve year old will be
Speaker 1: thirteen here in a few days eighteen, and have you
Speaker 1: have you ever been concerned that one of your kids
Speaker 1: was lost?
Speaker 4: I don't remember specifically. I generally feel like there was
Speaker 4: maybe a time we were in a store, and I'm
Speaker 4: sure every parent out there is like, yeah, oh I
Speaker 4: had that experience, and you know, you briefly like your
Speaker 4: kids disappears and he's over in an aisle or two
Speaker 4: away looking at something.
Speaker 1: There's right, there is no worse feeling. Oh, that happened
Speaker 1: to us twice. If you're familiar with the uh actually
Speaker 1: not downtown Milford, but the Milk oh yeah, off of
Speaker 1: the Milford to seventy five off of Milford there there's
Speaker 1: a Low's and there's a target, I believe, and h
Speaker 1: and stuff that. There's a couple of things around there,
Speaker 1: but there's also an eye hop there and we used
Speaker 1: to live real close to there. Right down to seventy
Speaker 1: five is only a couple exits away. So we took
Speaker 1: our we took the boys there when they were a
Speaker 1: little I Hop got breakfast because you know, it is
Speaker 1: when you have little kids like that. And they were
Speaker 1: probably i want to say, like nine and seven something
Speaker 1: like that. Breakfast places are fun when they're yeah, kids
Speaker 1: and so, but they're also up at like, so we're there.
Speaker 1: It's a Saturday morning. I needed to go to Low's. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I was like, guys, let's go. And Deb was up
Speaker 1: and come on, we're gonna go to I Hop get
Speaker 1: a little breakfast. Daddy's gonna stop with the hardware, fingers
Speaker 1: going to eye. There you go. And it was we
Speaker 1: used we used to let him pretend they were ordering food.
Speaker 1: They would they would think they were ordering food, but
Speaker 1: they weren't. Dead would just tell the waitress, look, just
Speaker 1: give them my she would get whatever and hers. She
Speaker 1: would order a side of pancakes. Just give them those pancakes.
Speaker 1: Don't even worry about all the fruit fruit stuff they want. Okay, cool.
Speaker 1: And so we're leaving, We're going to go to if
Speaker 1: you're familiar with this area, the Low's is, it's the
Speaker 1: same parking lot.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: So then being little boys, they said, Dad, can we
Speaker 1: can we walk down there? And it's seven thirty eight
Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning, and somebody, yeah, if you guys
Speaker 1: just be careful. Look there's cars going everywhere around here.
Speaker 1: Just be careful. Yeah, and your mother and I are
Speaker 1: just going to get in the car and we'll meet
Speaker 1: you down there and just meet us, meet us out,
Speaker 1: I said, meet us in the front, meaning the front
Speaker 1: of the store.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 1: Well, so we uh go, Deb and I are just
Speaker 1: taking our time. Just we didn't take that much time.
Speaker 1: When we get in the car, drive down there, walk
Speaker 1: up to the front of the store. No little boys there,
Speaker 1: and so we're looking around looking out in the parking lot.
Speaker 1: Obviously I'm not a a lot of cars, so we're
Speaker 1: looking everywhere a little they probably they must be inside.
Speaker 1: So we go inside. Nowhere to be seen, oh no,
Speaker 1: and uh so then we run back outside and Deb
Speaker 1: is I'm starting to freak. Deb is really freaking, and
Speaker 1: they have to be here someplace they couldn't have. And
Speaker 1: about that time, there's a white panel van driving out
Speaker 1: of the parking lot and my wife started screaming running
Speaker 1: after the white panel van, and I was like, oh now,
Speaker 1: my heart's beating ninety, you know, million times a second.
Speaker 1: And it's instant too. Oh, absolutely it is. And now
Speaker 1: I'm starting to panic, and so I run back in
Speaker 1: to ask somebody to call nine to one one. And
Speaker 1: as soon as I run back in, here come the
Speaker 1: boys walking out of They had gotten distracted by god
Speaker 1: knows a Christmas tree display or something and had wandered
Speaker 1: off to the side instead of being right there in front.
Speaker 1: And I think their mother had to go home and
Speaker 1: do a pants change because she was six severely upset,
Speaker 1: and that all that, that all happened. And I bet
Speaker 1: you couldn't have been longer than two minutes, right, seriously,
Speaker 1: but it felt like but it felt like two hours.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And there was another time where Jack was going
Speaker 1: to meet him buddy of his at a move think
Speaker 1: whatever Batman movie. I just remember it being Batman, And
Speaker 1: we took him to that theater that's right there, the
Speaker 1: theaters to the showcase there. Yeah, and Deb dropped him
Speaker 1: off and the kids he is going to meet him
Speaker 1: in the lobby. It's like, okay, you're you're good. Here's
Speaker 1: the money to buy yourself a pop and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. So he's like, I'm good, and you know,
Speaker 1: that's where he was. He was probably about twelve thirteen
Speaker 1: by then, so he was kind of so he uh,
Speaker 1: he goes in, she comes home. I said, everything cool, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's there and Gabe is going to meet him. So
Speaker 1: he So then we get a call later on from
Speaker 1: Gabe's mom. You know, we didn't see Jack anywhere. Uh So,
Speaker 1: just long story short, Jack didn't see him anywhere, so
Speaker 1: he just walked into the movie theater by himself and
Speaker 1: started watching the movie without telling anybody. So he watched
Speaker 1: the entire movie by himself. Well, they finally step went
Speaker 1: over there and started roaming the aisles and found him
Speaker 1: sitting there, going, hey, mom, what are you doing here
Speaker 1: drinking his pop and eating his popcorn. Dude, you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to have a little chat when you get home.
Speaker 18: With that.
Speaker 1: With that thought in mind, we check in with traffic
Speaker 1: and weather. What's going on.