WEBVTT - Eddie & Rocky -- 11/12/25 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:05.360 Even as layoffs amount. Economists call it a jobless boom. 0:00:06.000 --> 0:00:08.680 I never heard that before. Right. The stock market is 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:12.080 doing great right now. I mean it's not killing it, 0:00:12.119 --> 0:00:16.400 but it's doing just fine. Yeah, corporate profits are as 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:19.239 good as they've been in a bid. And yes, Steady, 0:00:19.280 --> 0:00:23.680 we're having layoffs. But we're having layoffs. And I'm real 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:26.920 curious as to what that's all about. And that's the 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:30.600 reason we have our guest with us right now. He 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:34.479 is Dwayne decent, he is a business as strategist, he 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:38.920 is a he's an author. He heads up the EMBc. 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:43.239 Should I can't even say it efficiency group, I should say, 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:46.080 because it ain't the efficiency group. But Dwayne, welcome to 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:47.879 the program. 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:50.440 I will glad to be here. Thank you for inviting me. 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:55.280 So, Dwayne, what do we owe this to? Is it AI? 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:59.200 Are these people coming in and or when I say 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:03.440 these people or these processes coming in and taking over 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:05.200 people's jobs. 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:08.280 Well, I don't think it actually started as AI. I 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:12.000 think initially, I think back to twenty twenty two when 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:17.200 Elon Muss first purchased Twitter and he cut costs there 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:21.440 by sixty seventy percent, and people were sure Twitter was 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:24.160 going to collapse and have all sorts of outages and 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:28.959 really didn't happen, and everyone was shocked that they started 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:32.399 realizing that they might have a bloated infrastructure. And I 0:01:32.400 --> 0:01:35.440 think in many cases that was kind of true. And 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:39.360 so hiring really slowed at that point for the next 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:42.360 couple of years and before AI really started to kick in. 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:45.400 And so now you have a second phenomenon that's coming along, 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:50.440 and AI is starting to impact some industries and segments 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:53.080 in particular, and it's going to only grow from here. 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:56.080 So I think we have probably the beginning of an 0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:57.880 issue rather than an. 0:01:57.880 --> 0:01:58.320 End of one. 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:01.960 You just said, there, Duane, it's only going to grow 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:03.760 from here, and that was going to be my question 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:07.880 is this is this kind of here to stay then? 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:09.000 And where do? 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:09.200 What? 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:10.560 Did job seekers do? 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:10.800 Do you? 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:13.680 What's where do you go? 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:15.440 Right? 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:18.200 Well, I think there's kind of two schools of thought here. 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:21.360 One school of thought is that AI will come along, 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:24.040 take away a lot of jobs, will have high unemployment 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:28.280 and a difficult recovery on that. And there's another school 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:30.800 of thought that says, really AI is going to free 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:34.320 up a lot of resources and it's going to launch 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:36.840 a new set of creativity where you'll see a lot 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:40.920 of new companies start and what used to take a 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:43.280 lot of capital and a lot of people to start 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:45.880 a business now be able to do be handled by 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:49.040 relatively few people, and so you might have more businesses 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:52.240 that are able to launch and a boom of creativity 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:55.839 and new companies. So it's difficult to tell exactly where 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:59.120 we'll land, but I can give this advice to two 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:01.560 people out there that are worried about their jobs, is 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:06.640 that just stay very current on technology. Don't try to 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:09.040 fight that and avoid technology. And I think sometimes it 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:12.320 can be intimidating, and I think if you avoid it, 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:14.320 it's probably you're going to be a victim of it. 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:17.120 So make sure you embrace it, make sure you stand 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:19.680 out against employees, make sure you're adding value to the 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:22.760 companies that you're working with, and the chances are that 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:26.280 you'll do fine. I do think that there is certain 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:30.000 industries that are gonna get hit harder, like software development 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:33.240 right now. I have associates and colleagues in there that 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:36.640 say it's like a hunger game where they're fighting for 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:38.960 their jobs because they know AI is going to take 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:41.640 ten twenty percent of those jobs right and they don't 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:43.040 know who that's going to be, and they don't want 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:44.720 to be one of those, one of those numbers. So 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:47.080 it's going to be tough for certain business segments for 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:51.880 a while. But stay current on your skills, embrace the changes, 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:52.640 and don't try. 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:52.960 To fight it. 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:57.280 Duwayne decent is our guest. And to follow that up, Dwayne, 0:03:57.480 --> 0:04:02.840 it would it be how to coexist with this as 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:06.000 opposed to well, I mean fighting it is worthless, there's 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:08.960 no point in that, but learn how to best coexist 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:11.440 with it and what you can do to complement it. 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:12.360 Does that make sense? 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:18.680 It doesn't exactly. AI is designed to make your job easier, 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:22.359 and so use those tools so that on more basic 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:24.520 type of things, so that you're not spending your time 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:27.720 on trivial tasks and you can use your time on 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:32.000 creativity and launching value. So make I'M more your friend 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:33.919 and make it work for you rather than make it 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:34.599 work against you. 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:38.480 Right, Well, it's kind of I know this has been 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:42.680 debated for a long time as we've as technology continues 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:45.320 to grow and develop and get more advanced, and this 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:49.680 is clearly maybe this is a you know, threshold here 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:52.880 gone over the cliffs sort of thing that does this 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:56.040 Does this help the trades? 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:57.360 You know? 0:04:57.440 --> 0:05:00.159 Do people look at this and say, well, I'm I 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:02.880 can't get a job in that industry. I really wanted to, 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:06.239 but there's always going to be a need for people 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:08.960 to fix my toilet and my roof and my roads 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:12.200 and get the goods that I order from China to 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:16.159 my front door. And does this, in the long term, 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:18.960 you know, help help kind of that those industries. 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:23.520 I think it does. If I was advising someone entering 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:26.400 to college, I would tell them to caution them about 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:29.760 trying to do some of these fields that are already 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:32.680 being impacted. And the worst thing is that you could 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:35.680 spend three or four years trying to get educated and 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:39.080 into an area that eventually is going to be I 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:42.760 won't say obsolete, but certainly diminished from where it is currently. 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:45.280 I think it's a great opportunity to look at some 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:48.400 of those trade skills that obviously AI can't impact. And 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:52.960 we are very short quality contractors and trades people. So 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:56.080 i'm I would applaud that. And when you talk about 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:58.080 one of the booms that AI is going to create, 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:01.359 it's gonna it's going to create a big energy demand. 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:04.040 And if you have trade skills that are that can 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:06.120 help with that and build on that demand. 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:07.839 You will be in value. 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:09.160 You will be a valuable resource. 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:13.280 And well, we're talking to Dwayne Dees and Dwayne, let 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:18.479 me ask you. Isn't the whole object though, of AI 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:24.360 to ultimately replace human beings? I mean to figure out 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:29.520 what it is we do and copy that and then 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:33.520 learn how to do it better and grow one itself. 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:36.120 That's the whole purpose of it. Is that not true? 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:39.960 Well, I think that might one day be true. I 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:42.480 think that's kind of a little bit still the science 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:45.360 fiction of it. It might be sure, But thirty forty 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:48.599 years from now, might it be doing that? I would 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:51.240 say yes. But I think what it's doing initially and 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:54.320 probably for the foreseeable future, it's going to take away 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:58.240 more of the remedial type of tasks. Like for programmers, 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:01.120 the high end programming and some of the more complex 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:04.720 strategy and structures aren't yet being done by AI, and 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:07.760 probably will remain to be done by humans. But if 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:10.520 you're talking about the basics of programming, it's going to 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:13.640 be done by AI. Probably it's already being done by 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:16.239 AI and will only increase that way in the future. 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:18.480 So I think it. I don't think it's going to 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:22.120 start with A and anytime soon is going to start 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:25.680 taking away high end jobs where people get that are 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:30.120 thinking and creating and adding value innovating. Those type of 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:32.080 jobs are going to be held by human beings for 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:34.240 a long time, and that's why it's important to try 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:36.680 to make yourself one of those individuals. 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:39.960 Duane, I know you alluded to it earlier, but the 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:45.560 industry of working in AI, if that makes sense, like, 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:51.200 is there is there an opportunity there? Uh, you know 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:53.320 to basically you know, I don't I don't know what 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:57.760 the world is that you know you mentioned software. Is 0:07:57.760 --> 0:08:01.480 there even going to be even a job boom or 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:06.640 creation in that world? And I know that's meant not 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:09.960 to have people doing it, but people have to be 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:11.360 in there innovating. 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:11.360 It, right. 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:15.160 Yeah, there's a lot of effort to build the infrastructure 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:18.000 of AI, to train AI and in fact, you saw 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:21.400 some crazy numbers being put out by companies like Facebook 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:24.560 offering kind of the head of when they stole someone 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:27.040 from to be the head of their AI unit, was 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:30.560 paid like one hundred million dollars essentially to come over. 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:33.080 So you hear some just crazy numbers if you have 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:37.199 this really specialized experience. But there's there's experience levels all 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:39.800 over that you can that they need for AI to 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:42.600 build the infrastructure to train. And then there's all the 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:46.160 tangent industries like I mentioned before about power that is 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:49.000 going to that AI needs in order to be successful. 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:52.480 All right with that, Dwayne, we really appreciate you talking 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:54.600 to us. People want to find out more about you, 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:57.160 your group and what it is you do. Where can 0:08:57.200 --> 0:08:57.480 they go. 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:01.160 It's the efficacy group that e f f F i's 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:03.840 e f f I, c A c Y group dot 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:07.760 com and I also put out a book called Operationally 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:10.480 Sell where I talk about how AI is coming to 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:13.160 play and how companies that can save money using AI. 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:19.440 Dwayne, thanks so much, thank you, Thank you. You know 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:21.520 they're they're coming for us, bro. You know that as 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:23.960 well as I do. But looks like it might be 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:24.840 a little ways off. 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:30.920 Yeah, I still think there's more bad about AI than 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:31.559 there is good. 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:33.640 And then it did. 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:38.280 Wellet another example of what I believe. It's it's ultimately 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:41.360 going to be a net negative of jobs. So here's 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:43.680 the thing we were. 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:48.839 Shoot. I want to say, it's certainly been in the 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:51.800 last ten years, and I think that's I'm stretching it 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:56.480 big time. The last five seven years. This has gone 0:09:56.559 --> 0:10:00.440 from a novelty to when we were joking about, ah, 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:02.640 this is all gonna take over what we do, ha, 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:06.440 right to two or three years later is like going, oh, hell, 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:10.080 this does getting pretty good. So now it's like so good. 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:12.680 People are looking over their shoulders and it is then 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:17.600 that technology is taking jobs. Now it's kind of back to. 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:19.440 The future too, you know, and you're like all that 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:22.200 stuff on there, You're like, Eh, that's cool to think about. 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:23.160 That will never happen. 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:25.520 Yeah, And a lot of those things didn't happen from 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:29.000 back to the future too, But this is and. 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:32.240 That was sett in like twenty seventeen, right exactly. 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Because I know it's out there. No. 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:22.400 No, The only thing, like you know on sin sinny 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:25.760 dot com, like in our stories, like they'll do these 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:28.880 little these little summaries at the top of our story, 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:33.480 like kind of highlight. They call them highlights, and then 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:36.960 those are AI generated and it says on there, let's 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:39.720 let's there's a thing on every story. Or they do 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:42.320 it with my column too on sinny dot com. Not 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:47.480 they AI, but you just it pulls it from this 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:51.400 what you like. So it's not like it just does 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:53.240 a summary of it so you don't have to write it. 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:56.000 But it pulls it from whatever you've written. It's not 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:59.800 like you know it's written anything for you and then 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:02.400 you know it's something you've written and now it's just 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:06.080 using your words to summarize and put some bullet points 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:08.360 out there, you know, for readers to see, Oh, okay, 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:10.080 this is the highlights. 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:13.240 Of this well. The our next guest is a fella 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:15.040 I've known for a long time, and I believe you 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:18.800 have as well. He wrote in uh op ed for 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:23.400 the Inquire for Cincinnati dot Com the other day about 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:29.920 your Cincinnati Bengals and the headline even losing the even losing, 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:33.600 even the losing Bengals are better than losing the Bengals. 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:38.760 This is our our buddy, Randy, Randy Furman's brother Andy. Andy. 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:41.520 He's I think he was a little more famous before Randy. 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:45.240 But yeah, I read this yesterday. I since say dot com. 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:48.160 He's a member, he's on the board of contributors to 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:51.240 the Inquir now and uh, he still brings the heat. 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:51.440 Man. 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:54.480 It invokes some emotions for me, and I'll look forward 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:58.760 to our discussion. Yeah, and and that's what a column 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:00.480 should do. And it makes a lot in a sense 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:04.360 what he's talking about here. And we will talk about 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:08.440 the You know, this always comes up though, when people 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:12.280 bitch about the Reds or the Bengals or pig at 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:15.680 sports team, Well they suck. We'd be better off without him, 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:19.720 the blah blah blah blah. Well you know, think if 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:21.960 wishers were fishes, be careful what you wish for. 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:22.360 Man. 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:26.080 Yeah, we'll we'll talk to our good friend Andy Furman. 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:29.520 After the news Right now News Radio seven hundred w 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:30.320 l W. 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:38.200 News Traffic and Weather. 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It's Toledo Rockets Toledo and in Miami, 0:21:44.119 --> 0:21:46.399 and rock is on the scene, and I know it 0:21:46.400 --> 0:21:48.359 loves that that'll be one of the few on the scene. 0:21:48.440 --> 0:21:53.320 That's about that's about twenty minutes from his house. Yeah, yes, 0:21:53.840 --> 0:21:57.600 maction baby, so I call it. We have our guests 0:21:57.640 --> 0:22:00.119 now and been one to talk to this guy for ever. 0:22:00.160 --> 0:22:04.040 He's an old friend and I love his opinions on 0:22:04.200 --> 0:22:07.840 pretty much everything. And when Jason, you can discuss your 0:22:07.840 --> 0:22:10.680 opinion about his opinion. But right now I want to 0:22:10.680 --> 0:22:16.320 say hi to Argamed, Buddy, Andy Furman, fur Ball, what's going. 0:22:17.000 --> 0:22:18.720 How you guys doing doing great? 0:22:18.760 --> 0:22:23.040 Buddy, glad to see you back in the inquiry. 0:22:24.960 --> 0:22:27.800 Well, you know what, I got some heat from Burrow Love. 0:22:27.960 --> 0:22:30.960 I mean I saw Burrole recently executive editation where you've been, 0:22:31.400 --> 0:22:33.080 so he kind of put a little pressure on it. 0:22:33.119 --> 0:22:36.160 But you know what you could. You can't write all 0:22:36.200 --> 0:22:38.200 the time. You got to think of a subject manager 0:22:38.280 --> 0:22:45.000 that really would stir the pot, you know what I mean, Well, 0:22:45.119 --> 0:22:45.919 that's what you're doing. 0:22:46.480 --> 0:22:48.879 Yeah, that's what you did when you were a host 0:22:48.920 --> 0:22:51.160 here and talking about stirring the pod. 0:22:52.280 --> 0:22:54.080 Well, you know what, it's a lot easy to talk 0:22:54.160 --> 0:22:57.560 that to put words on a computer screen, That's true, 0:22:57.600 --> 0:22:59.320 that's difficult. I give a lot of credit for those 0:22:59.320 --> 0:23:00.800 guys that do it. If you could do it two 0:23:00.840 --> 0:23:03.480 three times a week, you know, more, more power to you. 0:23:03.520 --> 0:23:04.000 It's tough. 0:23:04.680 --> 0:23:07.879 Well, the op Edge wrote the other day for Cincinnati 0:23:07.960 --> 0:23:10.679 dot Com even the losing Bengals are better than losing 0:23:10.720 --> 0:23:14.400 the Bengals, and uh, I think that speaks for itself. 0:23:14.440 --> 0:23:17.960 But I pretty much agree with everything you say there 0:23:17.960 --> 0:23:23.800 any because sports fans are if nothing else, reactionary. You know, 0:23:23.920 --> 0:23:26.199 at the beginning of the year, it was you know, 0:23:26.680 --> 0:23:31.760 Joe Burrow was Joe Montana, Joe Namath and uh Y 0:23:31.800 --> 0:23:35.760 a tittle all rolled into one, and Zach Taylor was 0:23:35.840 --> 0:23:40.080 Paul Brown meets Mike, you know, meets with the with 0:23:40.119 --> 0:23:44.480 the Zimmer Brothers and Mike Tomlin. And now he is 0:23:44.560 --> 0:23:46.399 a bomb and they want him run out of town. 0:23:46.640 --> 0:23:51.040 And Joe Burrow is injury prone now and they don't 0:23:51.080 --> 0:23:53.040 care if the Bengals are here or not. That's pretty 0:23:53.080 --> 0:23:54.119 much the way it isn't it. 0:23:55.400 --> 0:23:58.080 Well it's funny because in my mind sports is nothing 0:23:58.080 --> 0:24:00.919 more than a release. And also at the hey, so 0:24:01.160 --> 0:24:04.760 these rabid people, these fans, these fanatics need to have 0:24:04.800 --> 0:24:07.679 a release, and obviously the Cincineti Bengals provide that release 0:24:07.760 --> 0:24:10.760 for them. So without the Bengals, what would they do? 0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:13.359 But more than that, I got this kind of this 0:24:13.840 --> 0:24:17.399 idea to write this on Sunday because I'm saying, what 0:24:17.440 --> 0:24:20.119 am I gonna do? There's no Bengal games, and I said, wow, 0:24:20.480 --> 0:24:22.760 what would it be like to live in a community 0:24:23.040 --> 0:24:25.159 where there's no pro football? And I have done that 0:24:25.200 --> 0:24:27.680 in the past, but you know, I don't think the 0:24:27.760 --> 0:24:30.160 national football there was as big then as it is now. 0:24:30.520 --> 0:24:33.320 It is the number one sport in America, follow up 0:24:33.359 --> 0:24:34.880 by probably college football. 0:24:35.760 --> 0:24:38.919 No, I totally I loved your piece, Andy, and like 0:24:38.920 --> 0:24:41.280 I said, glad you're backed righting on sinsini dot com. 0:24:41.280 --> 0:24:45.439 And I completely agree with everything you said. Interestingly, when 0:24:45.520 --> 0:24:48.040 I read it, it invoked this thought for me, and 0:24:48.080 --> 0:24:50.320 it's not like you were saying this or just the 0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:53.240 thought that I had, and it's you know, from covering 0:24:53.720 --> 0:24:56.800 the stadium issue for all these years and seeing how 0:24:56.880 --> 0:25:00.680 one sided that's been, I've always gotten the the message, 0:25:00.960 --> 0:25:02.840 or you know, at least my message that I've seen 0:25:02.880 --> 0:25:05.199 from the Bengals, and that approach has been just be 0:25:05.240 --> 0:25:07.879 happy you have the NFL. We brought that to you 0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:12.600 and you OUs and that's been again my general takeaway 0:25:12.640 --> 0:25:17.119 from that. And so I think part of when I 0:25:17.200 --> 0:25:20.959 was reading your piece was I'm thinking, like, yeah, like 0:25:21.000 --> 0:25:24.320 that's the attitude of the Bengals, like, you know, just 0:25:24.400 --> 0:25:26.600 be happy you have the NFL. Here everyone will give 0:25:26.600 --> 0:25:28.520 you a little pat on the head and run along. 0:25:30.440 --> 0:25:30.720 Again. 0:25:30.760 --> 0:25:32.639 You weren't saying that, but that was that was one 0:25:32.680 --> 0:25:34.720 of the thoughts that I had in reading your piece. 0:25:36.000 --> 0:25:38.080 You know, I don't know. I sort of disagree with 0:25:38.119 --> 0:25:40.040 that because I think that there's nothing more Mike Brown 0:25:40.040 --> 0:25:42.840 would like to have before toolstedn't done for him is 0:25:42.880 --> 0:25:44.720 to have a Super Bowl ring. I really believe that 0:25:44.760 --> 0:25:46.440 I'd love to see him have it. You know, here's 0:25:46.480 --> 0:25:49.000 a guy, I'll say, the kind of guy Mike Brown is. 0:25:49.200 --> 0:25:51.399 He went to Dartmouth that he played football there. Yeah, 0:25:51.440 --> 0:25:53.600 and he was not in the Dartmouth Football Hall of Fame. 0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:56.520 So years ago I wrote a letter to Dartmouth saying 0:25:56.520 --> 0:25:58.120 that he should be putting the football Hall of Fame. 0:25:58.359 --> 0:26:01.000 He immediately got in touch with me and said, no, no, no, no, 0:26:01.080 --> 0:26:02.800 I don't want any of that. He didn't want that. 0:26:03.000 --> 0:26:05.359 You know, he's a background kind of guy. He really is. 0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:08.360 And people think the fact that he doesn't come public 0:26:08.520 --> 0:26:10.560 and speak to the media or talk to him is 0:26:10.560 --> 0:26:13.080 because he's hiding. He's not. He's that kind of a guy. 0:26:13.160 --> 0:26:16.520 He really is, right, or do you want to on 0:26:16.560 --> 0:26:18.600 the other side of the coin, do you want a 0:26:18.720 --> 0:26:21.200 Jerry Jones? Is that what you're looking for? 0:26:21.200 --> 0:26:22.240 World? Right? 0:26:22.400 --> 0:26:25.200 That's know what I'm saying. Be careful what you wish for. Fan. 0:26:27.160 --> 0:26:29.639 I'm with you on thousand percent. Look, I think the 0:26:29.640 --> 0:26:31.840 Bengals want to win. I think they've had a streak 0:26:31.880 --> 0:26:34.200 of bad luck, big time bad luck. And I'll tell 0:26:34.200 --> 0:26:36.199 you what, here's one area which I think no one 0:26:36.280 --> 0:26:38.760 has really touched on because they're pointing fingers that Joe 0:26:38.840 --> 0:26:41.639 Burrow and his injury. Look, he wasn't injured last year 0:26:41.640 --> 0:26:43.840 and they still lost, okay, and he was the best 0:26:43.880 --> 0:26:47.080 quarterback and eons with the stats that he had. Okay, 0:26:47.240 --> 0:26:49.399 so they didn't win the thing last year and he 0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:52.040 played and he was healthy. Here's the problem I see. 0:26:52.040 --> 0:26:54.320 And maybe I'm wrong because the next snap I take 0:26:54.320 --> 0:26:56.320 in the National Football League told be my first I 0:26:56.400 --> 0:26:58.600 never played for football. But the point is that I 0:26:58.640 --> 0:27:00.560 think it all comes from this top, from the top, 0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:03.200 and the top is a Mike Brown. The top is coach. 0:27:03.440 --> 0:27:07.200 And they've never had a physical coach, a mental coach, 0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:10.640 a coach that could be respected. Besides Forrest Gregg, every 0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:13.320 coach that they've had has been learning on the job. 0:27:13.400 --> 0:27:16.359 In the NFL with the Fangals, Zach Taylor was not 0:27:16.440 --> 0:27:19.439 even a coordinator. He was a quarterbacks coach, you know, 0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:23.600 and you go coach, coach, coach down the line, you know, 0:27:23.680 --> 0:27:26.600 the only one maybe Marvin Lewis, who was a defensive 0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:29.200 coordinator on the Super Bowl team with Baltimore. Other than that, 0:27:29.480 --> 0:27:31.119 I think players need to look at a guy and 0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:33.400 respect them, say he's been there, done that, and they 0:27:33.440 --> 0:27:35.240 never had a coach who's been there and done that. 0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:40.920 Another thing I really I liked in your column, Andy, 0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:44.040 was you referenced Saint Louis, and that's a town that's 0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:45.159 been jilted. 0:27:44.840 --> 0:27:46.080 Twice Mike A Goodness. 0:27:46.280 --> 0:27:49.800 Yeah, and that's a similar I've always I used to 0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:53.520 work in Missouri, and I've always felt like I was 0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:58.120 in a little bit of a bigger, little more cosmopolitan 0:27:58.160 --> 0:28:00.439 Cincinnati when i'd go to Saint Louis. So, you know, 0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:05.320 Catholic Midwestern town that they definitely love baseball there. 0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:07.040 We say we love baseball here. 0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:10.639 I thought that was an interesting take because you know, 0:28:10.720 --> 0:28:14.720 this is what the smallest outside of Green Bay, this 0:28:14.800 --> 0:28:19.080 is the smallest market in the NFL. So I thought 0:28:19.119 --> 0:28:21.480 your reference to that was was interesting. 0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:26.600 Yeah, and it's funny how certain cities can support certain teams. 0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:30.000 You know, I don't think Cincinnati could support an NBA team, 0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:32.640 especially now. I think we're saturated with pro teams and 0:28:32.720 --> 0:28:35.320 I don't think there's that many sponsors out there to 0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:38.160 come forth with the checkbook the sponsors amount. Obviously, there's 0:28:38.200 --> 0:28:41.280 no real good place to play. There's no arena really, 0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:45.120 so I don't think they could support that or the NHL. Obviously, 0:28:45.200 --> 0:28:48.320 Saint Louis cannot support pro football for whatever reason. I 0:28:48.320 --> 0:28:49.680 don't know why, but they can't. 0:28:50.040 --> 0:28:53.040 Yeah, but they have the NHL there, which is yeah, uh. 0:28:53.240 --> 0:28:55.120 They do at Pittsforsh's another city that I don't think 0:28:55.160 --> 0:28:57.400 is support the NBA. You know, they had the Pittsburgh 0:28:57.400 --> 0:28:59.960 condoors way back when in the ABA. But I don't 0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:03.600 think they could support basketball. And certain people could support 0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:06.520 certain cities could support certain teams. That's the way it is. 0:29:06.920 --> 0:29:10.760 Well, guys, let's face it that now the NFL has 0:29:10.880 --> 0:29:16.440 become the predominant franchise for any city to have. If 0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:19.080 you're going to have one sport, you want to have 0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:22.440 the NFL. And Jason kind of made a passing reference 0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:25.800 to it there, and we're talking to Andy Furman with 0:29:26.480 --> 0:29:31.920 everybody's always been talking up until recently, well, society's first 0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:35.360 and foremost a baseball town. Well, I would argue that 0:29:35.360 --> 0:29:38.640 that is not so true anymore. Yeah, I think that 0:29:39.080 --> 0:29:39.800 I could agree. 0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:42.280 I think Cincinnati's a town that's the front run of 0:29:42.320 --> 0:29:44.320 town that whatever team wins, that's the town it is. 0:29:45.160 --> 0:29:48.480 I mean, this thing became a Reds town. They really did, 0:29:48.760 --> 0:29:51.440 because the RESU made the playoffs. At the beginning of 0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:54.760 the football season, I see July August, it was football crazy, 0:29:55.040 --> 0:29:56.600 not an a football town anymore. 0:29:58.240 --> 0:29:59.160 That's an interesting you know. 0:29:59.200 --> 0:30:01.719 And I wrote a call on that when you know, 0:30:01.800 --> 0:30:05.280 the Reds were practically giving away tickets there that last 0:30:05.280 --> 0:30:08.040 week of the season, that that almost called them Steelers 0:30:08.040 --> 0:30:11.240 the Pirates series. And you had Paul Skins and the 0:30:11.280 --> 0:30:14.120 Hunter Green facing off with each other and they are 0:30:14.160 --> 0:30:16.640 given eight are they you know, eight dollars tickets and 0:30:16.720 --> 0:30:21.240 basically giving away cheap concessions and they still couldn't come 0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:24.400 anywhere near a capacity crowd, I mean thirty thousand they 0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:29.280 were celebrating that. I think that you make a great 0:30:29.360 --> 0:30:31.520 point there on that this is a front runner town. 0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:33.760 I want to ask you this, Andy, from the moment 0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:36.920 you came to town here, was it always like that? And 0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:42.960 you what you started doing sports talk late in mid nineties. 0:30:42.680 --> 0:30:47.000 Late late eighties, late eighties, eighty eighty, but you know, 0:30:47.200 --> 0:30:49.720 I would tell you what the difference is then and now. 0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:53.480 We had personalities as coaches and people loved it and 0:30:53.480 --> 0:30:55.880 they were always in the news. Yeah, Bob Huggins, Pete Gillen, 0:30:56.240 --> 0:30:58.880 you know there was a rivalry there, not even on 0:30:58.920 --> 0:31:04.080 the off the court. Yeah, generated generated buzz right, Yeah, 0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:06.520 Pete Rose, May he rest in peace. He was using 0:31:06.600 --> 0:31:09.360 manager lou Panella picking up a base and tossing it 0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:13.520 into the right field. You don't have personalities anymore as coaches. 0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:15.920 I'm trying to think of the last personality as a 0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:20.000 coach in this town. And Sam Wise, he's another one personality. 0:31:20.240 --> 0:31:22.560 Sunday morning, he walked the streets and feed the homeless, 0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:26.240 these guys who are just personalities. He wanted to know them, 0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:29.120 know everything about them, and you know they were close 0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:31.479 to you. They really were. Right now, it's like a 0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:33.880 button up coach. You know, he coaches the game and 0:31:33.880 --> 0:31:36.000 he goes away. And that's the closest thing is maybe 0:31:36.080 --> 0:31:39.560 Zach Taylor would give away footballs to various pubs if 0:31:39.560 --> 0:31:41.520 they're a win. And he's not doing that anymore because 0:31:41.520 --> 0:31:42.040 they don't. 0:31:41.840 --> 0:31:46.600 Wind, right, But I'd love that take though. Andy talking 0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:51.480 about Bigger than life coaches, your panelas and stuff like that. 0:31:51.960 --> 0:31:57.840 But Jos sure, and but you brought up Forrest Greg earlier. 0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:01.760 I mean talk about a guy that I don't care 0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:04.760 who you were, what you thought. I don't care if 0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:07.480 you hated the Cincinnati Bengals, if you were the biggest 0:32:07.480 --> 0:32:10.800 Steelers fan, Browns fan, or what have you. You had 0:32:10.840 --> 0:32:13.080 to look at that guy and go, that guy knows 0:32:13.120 --> 0:32:16.000 what he's talking about exactly. 0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:16.680 You know. 0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:19.800 I remember when Data Bible was the quarterback coach of 0:32:19.840 --> 0:32:23.360 the Cincinnati Bengals and Boomer Size and couldn't stand them 0:32:23.560 --> 0:32:27.120 because what could Data Bible teach? Boomer siacen. That's the 0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:29.800 thing you have. The guy a coach is a teacher. 0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:33.040 And if this guy doesn't have a track record as 0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:36.920 what he has done, you know, a script so to speak, 0:32:37.080 --> 0:32:39.320 how could Boomer Size and listen to Data Bible. 0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:40.520 That's what it's all about. 0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:44.200 Zach Taylor came here to learn the job on the job. 0:32:44.560 --> 0:32:46.800 That's what I'm thinking, learn the job on the job. 0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:49.600 He's a good guy. I like that. Yes, good family man, 0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:53.200 good father, good husband. But honestly he's learning, or he 0:32:53.360 --> 0:32:55.880 has learned, hopefully the job while he's been there. This 0:32:56.000 --> 0:32:58.440 team was not going on the third consecutive year. Maybe 0:32:58.480 --> 0:33:01.400 nothing in the playoffs that's heard of. And he's got 0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:03.600 to be able to not sleep well at night after 0:33:03.640 --> 0:33:06.760 the Giants fired their coach yesterday at two and eight. 0:33:07.160 --> 0:33:08.680 I mean, come on, really. 0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:12.960 With that, Andrew, we will let you go, buddy. It 0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:16.800 is our pleasure man. Thanks so much. Glad you're back, 0:33:17.360 --> 0:33:19.520 Glad Burro, god on you keep writing. 0:33:20.600 --> 0:33:21.280 You very much. 0:33:21.520 --> 0:33:25.760 See Andy, our guest, Andy Furman. Yeah, what a good guy. 0:33:25.920 --> 0:33:30.400 And I always loved his takes. Oh me too. When 0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:32.840 he he pissed up. He pissed off a lot of people. 0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:36.960 But that's the thing that's great. I mean, that's good. 0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:37.840 Like you. 0:33:37.960 --> 0:33:41.280 Yeah, makes you makes you laugh, sometimes, makes you cry, 0:33:41.440 --> 0:33:43.440 pisses you off. 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So it 0:35:20.920 --> 0:35:25.560 was fun talking to to Andy, and you know, I 0:35:26.960 --> 0:35:30.520 agree with pretty much everything he said as far as 0:35:30.840 --> 0:35:32.960 because I know you don't. I know what you're saying 0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:36.680 as well, because that is exactly what owners want to 0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:41.120 hear when things aren't going well, When things aren't going 0:35:41.160 --> 0:35:44.640 well and someone defends him and says, hey, well, when 0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:49.320 Phil Castadelini on these airwaves famously said where are you 0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:49.839 going to go? 0:35:50.760 --> 0:35:52.960 I'm glad you brought up because that was another thought 0:35:53.000 --> 0:35:54.799 I had that on this whole thing. 0:35:54.800 --> 0:35:57.600 And he wasn't wrong. He wasn't wrong, and that's what 0:35:57.640 --> 0:36:00.960 I'm that's my point. But that is what the guys 0:36:00.960 --> 0:36:03.600 pretty much. I mean, he just voiced it. Every one 0:36:03.640 --> 0:36:06.600 of these owners thinks that maybe, okay, we'll pull our 0:36:06.600 --> 0:36:09.000 franchise out of the city. Then what are you gonna do. 0:36:09.840 --> 0:36:12.239 When at the end of the day, it's actually incredibly 0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:15.640 difficult to move a franchise in the NFL. 0:36:16.040 --> 0:36:19.200 Well, once that Browns thing screwed it up, for well, 0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:24.000 the uh Baltimore Colt's going to Indy and then the 0:36:24.040 --> 0:36:28.560 Brown's going to Baltimore. That made it real hard for 0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:32.160 everybody else. I have to say, yes, very very difficult. 0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:34.000 What do you got to bring that up? 0:36:34.000 --> 0:36:37.400 By the way, art Modell, Yeah, I saw where Bernie 0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:40.840 kozars in the hospital. It was on Twitter today. Kozar 0:36:40.880 --> 0:36:42.520 has been kind of screwed up for a little bit. 0:36:42.960 --> 0:36:45.400 Well that just makes me even more mad at Art Modell. 0:36:45.560 --> 0:36:49.120 But well, you know, at this bench, I love Bernie 0:36:49.160 --> 0:36:52.520 Kosar was one of my maybe my favorite athlete growing up. 0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:54.600 Had the poster on the wall and everything back. 0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:56.560 In the day. He gave hope the slow white cause 0:36:57.360 --> 0:37:01.920 like myself. Uh but I say that, but look at 0:37:01.920 --> 0:37:06.000 what happened with the Chargers leaving San Diego. Talk about 0:37:06.000 --> 0:37:08.360 a fan base, but I think that the city pushed 0:37:08.400 --> 0:37:10.080 back on them too much. It was like when the 0:37:10.120 --> 0:37:13.839 Reds left Sarasota for spring training. The city pushed back 0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:15.640 so much or on the red just said screw these 0:37:15.680 --> 0:37:20.040 guys are going to give us everything we want. But 0:37:20.120 --> 0:37:23.560 then they left. They abandoned that fan base in San Diego. 0:37:23.600 --> 0:37:25.800 But again I think that was a San Diego city 0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:31.600 screw up. And the whole Oakland going to Vegas thing, well, barely. 0:37:31.640 --> 0:37:34.680 Everybody wants out of Oakland. So that's not bigcau. It's problem. 0:37:36.239 --> 0:37:38.759 I've been through it, but never in it. I've been 0:37:38.840 --> 0:37:41.320 to that stadium there. Yeah, I've heard it was awful. 0:37:41.440 --> 0:37:42.400 Yeah. 0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:44.880 Well, coming up, we're switching gears entirely and we're going 0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:49.360 to be talking to our legal expert, Jeremy Rosenthal. Remember 0:37:49.440 --> 0:37:54.400 last year that awful situation down in Texas with the 0:37:54.600 --> 0:37:59.400 camp Camp Mystic that got flooded out and not a 0:37:59.640 --> 0:38:02.080 giant loss of life, but one life is too much. 0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:05.120 But yeah, yeah, but several kids died, some of the 0:38:05.160 --> 0:38:08.799 counselors and whatnot. Well, now the lawsuits we started, so 0:38:08.920 --> 0:38:11.880 we will be talking to Jeremy Rosenthal about that after 0:38:11.920 --> 0:38:15.960 the news right now, News Radio seven hundred WLW. 0:38:15.800 --> 0:38:17.680 News Traffic and Weather. 0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:22.640 News Radio seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati. 0:38:22.719 --> 0:38:26.719 Tonight maybe the last night of the federal government shutdown. 0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:29.879 This is the four o'clock report. I'm Matt Reeese breaking now. 0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:31.959 We're going to find out in a few hours whether 0:38:32.040 --> 0:38:35.040 the forty day plus federal government closing. 0:38:34.760 --> 0:38:36.200 Is going to be undone. 0:38:36.480 --> 0:38:39.200 The US House expected to vote on a bill that 0:38:39.360 --> 0:38:43.440 ends it does not extend healthcare subsidies, which was a 0:38:43.560 --> 0:38:48.479 Democrat demand. 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I believe it was 0:44:07.840 --> 0:44:11.640 on the fourth that that awful flood he hit Camp 0:44:11.680 --> 0:44:17.239 Mystic down in Texas, sad and that kind of came 0:44:17.280 --> 0:44:21.799 out of nowhere. Obviously everybody was taken by surprise. Uh 0:44:22.040 --> 0:44:25.960 several uh, several people that were swept away by it 0:44:26.000 --> 0:44:29.040 and obviously perished, and some of the counselors were as well. 0:44:29.760 --> 0:44:33.759 And now as when the stuff like this happens, the 0:44:33.960 --> 0:44:39.040 lawsuits start, yep, and it's and they've started. Let's get 0:44:39.040 --> 0:44:41.959 to our legal expert to discuss how this could play out. 0:44:42.080 --> 0:44:44.880 He is our good friend, Jeremy Rosenthal. He's been on 0:44:44.960 --> 0:44:47.480 both sides. He has won every case in the books. 0:44:47.640 --> 0:44:50.440 This guy's undefeated, I believe in a court of law. Jeremy, 0:44:50.480 --> 0:44:51.399 correct me if I'm wrong. 0:44:53.000 --> 0:44:56.640 Uh, promotions for continuance, Yes, undefeated. 0:44:56.320 --> 0:44:59.919 Undefeated, unscored upon, that's right, Uh. 0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:03.680 Right, yes, yes, yes, I'm the you know, and I 0:45:03.960 --> 0:45:06.080 listened all a mom my web page. 0:45:06.400 --> 0:45:08.680 We'll get your case continued for a week for you 0:45:08.760 --> 0:45:10.239 to go and pay your lawyer, to. 0:45:10.280 --> 0:45:13.719 Go, go get some money to pay your lawyer. So, 0:45:13.880 --> 0:45:19.120 but the serious up here, Jeremy, Jeremy Rosenthal, you're You're 0:45:19.160 --> 0:45:21.440 in the state of Texas. How do you suppose this 0:45:21.600 --> 0:45:24.320 is likely going to play out? The lawsuits have started, 0:45:24.400 --> 0:45:28.600 the families of some of the campers or starting lawsuits 0:45:28.600 --> 0:45:31.520 a couple of the counselor's families as well. What do 0:45:31.600 --> 0:45:32.560 you see happening here? 0:45:34.160 --> 0:45:36.680 Well, you got to go where the facts are going 0:45:36.760 --> 0:45:37.400 to take you on this. 0:45:37.640 --> 0:45:45.319 You got twenty seven victims, extremely tragic. Everybody's gonna deal 0:45:45.400 --> 0:45:48.759 with their grief in a different way, right and some 0:45:48.920 --> 0:45:51.440 people are going to be really conciliatory. Some people are 0:45:51.480 --> 0:45:54.000 going to bury their head in the sand never want 0:45:54.040 --> 0:45:58.279 to deal with it again. You know, it's interesting being 0:45:58.360 --> 0:46:02.240 in Texas. I know folks in Kirk County, in Kerrville, 0:46:03.360 --> 0:46:06.799 and I know local people here that that have connections, 0:46:07.520 --> 0:46:11.280 and everybody's gonna deal with it differently. When when lawsuits 0:46:11.320 --> 0:46:13.200 are filed, you've got to look at them and see 0:46:13.400 --> 0:46:17.000 if they're any good. A lot of the allegations here 0:46:17.280 --> 0:46:20.040 are saying things like, look, this camp down the road 0:46:20.239 --> 0:46:23.240 managed to do fine, what was your problem? 0:46:23.440 --> 0:46:23.600 You know? 0:46:23.800 --> 0:46:26.160 And all these others. You know, there was a lot 0:46:26.280 --> 0:46:29.279 more folks near in proximity of the rivers that got 0:46:29.320 --> 0:46:33.440 it right. They had some cabins there that had previously 0:46:33.560 --> 0:46:37.160 had to be evacuated. You had some policies that, if 0:46:37.239 --> 0:46:40.160 you believe them, didn't make a lot of sense, and 0:46:40.320 --> 0:46:43.480 there could have been some different decisions potentially. So you 0:46:43.719 --> 0:46:45.920 just have to see if there's merit there, and if 0:46:45.960 --> 0:46:50.520 there is, then then it gets addressed. And if you're 0:46:50.840 --> 0:46:53.960 if you're bringing this lawsuit, you're doing it out of 0:46:54.000 --> 0:46:56.880 anger and and and out of a hope that nothing 0:46:57.000 --> 0:46:58.040 happens like this again. 0:46:58.440 --> 0:47:00.080 You know that that's kind of what your mind. 0:47:00.000 --> 0:47:00.440 As it is. 0:47:01.280 --> 0:47:01.840 He Jeremy. 0:47:02.080 --> 0:47:06.400 There's three three lawsuits or one of three lawsuits filed 0:47:07.080 --> 0:47:11.080 this this week Monday, includes five campers, all of them 0:47:11.120 --> 0:47:15.200 are either eight or nine years old, and two councilors 0:47:15.800 --> 0:47:17.439 eighteen year old and nineteen year old. 0:47:17.920 --> 0:47:20.640 What what is the like? 0:47:20.760 --> 0:47:25.600 What's that the crux of a lawsuit that those families are? 0:47:25.840 --> 0:47:28.799 You know, what are they what kind of damages are 0:47:28.840 --> 0:47:32.760 they seeking? And what is it that what should have happened? 0:47:32.920 --> 0:47:34.640 Yeah? Was it that you're negligent? 0:47:34.840 --> 0:47:39.480 Like, here's here's what Here's what others have businesses or 0:47:40.080 --> 0:47:43.640 camps or houses along the river do or have done 0:47:44.400 --> 0:47:45.239 to prepare for this. 0:47:45.560 --> 0:47:48.800 Here's what you didn't do? Is that is that basically it? 0:47:48.960 --> 0:47:50.799 Or you know, what's the le what's the legal part 0:47:50.840 --> 0:47:51.000 of this? 0:47:52.400 --> 0:47:52.600 Right? 0:47:52.840 --> 0:47:56.680 Essentially, when you're when you're talking about negligence, you're talking 0:47:56.719 --> 0:47:58.360 about several different factors. 0:47:59.239 --> 0:48:02.400 You're talking that you owe a duty to make something safe. 0:48:02.920 --> 0:48:07.640 You're talking about what is reasonable and if what you 0:48:07.800 --> 0:48:11.439 did was really well below the standard of reasonable care, 0:48:13.320 --> 0:48:16.000 and it's foreseeable, right, There's got to be an element 0:48:16.480 --> 0:48:20.040 of foreseeability here. And that's the issue in this case, 0:48:20.719 --> 0:48:24.400 is going to be foreseeability. How foreseeable is it that. 0:48:24.480 --> 0:48:25.160 This would happen? 0:48:25.880 --> 0:48:28.640 In other words, you can't really come back and say 0:48:28.800 --> 0:48:32.560 this is an act of God. Therefore we're just not liable. Well, 0:48:33.320 --> 0:48:35.680 you know, when you live in a if you have 0:48:35.840 --> 0:48:38.719 a farm in Kansas, you know you're gonna get hit 0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:44.200 by tornadoes, right, and you know to have your home 0:48:44.320 --> 0:48:45.759 be equipped as best it can. 0:48:45.840 --> 0:48:49.080 And you got a basement, right, So a tornado came 0:48:49.160 --> 0:48:51.200 and did this to us. 0:48:51.239 --> 0:48:54.160 As is, you know it can happen, and if it 0:48:54.239 --> 0:48:57.840 happens despite all of your precautions, it's not your fault. 0:48:57.920 --> 0:48:58.720 It's your destiny. 0:48:58.840 --> 0:48:59.000 Right. 0:48:59.120 --> 0:49:04.359 But but if you if you are if you if 0:49:04.400 --> 0:49:07.480 you take all the necessary precautions, then then things ought 0:49:07.520 --> 0:49:10.040 to be fine. And when it comes to children like that, 0:49:11.600 --> 0:49:14.880 you know, you really again, nobody's gonna let you off 0:49:14.920 --> 0:49:19.000 the hook for owing this duty and and and no 0:49:19.160 --> 0:49:22.480 amount of tears is going to wipe away that liability 0:49:22.680 --> 0:49:23.479 if it's there. 0:49:23.920 --> 0:49:28.000 Right, we're talking to Jeremy Rosenthal, And Jeremy, you just 0:49:28.080 --> 0:49:30.080 brought up I think the key point in all this 0:49:30.719 --> 0:49:34.799 talking about kids, and not just kids eight nine year 0:49:34.840 --> 0:49:38.080 olds stuff like that, children who can't defend them for 0:49:38.200 --> 0:49:42.120 themselves in the least. Really and uh, that would seem 0:49:42.160 --> 0:49:45.279 to be a real coffin nail for for this case, 0:49:45.320 --> 0:49:48.239 as far as can't miss it goes your thoughts on that. 0:49:50.160 --> 0:49:51.839 Very you can very well be right. 0:49:51.960 --> 0:49:56.840 Some of the policies essentially said that the parents or 0:49:56.880 --> 0:49:59.560 excuse me, rather that the counselors didn't have the independent 0:49:59.600 --> 0:50:02.680 authority to evacuate that they had to get a signal 0:50:02.760 --> 0:50:06.120 from somebody else or or permission from somebody else and 0:50:06.320 --> 0:50:08.800 so and in some instances, my understanding is that was 0:50:08.840 --> 0:50:12.800 ignored and in some instances, right, you know, something is 0:50:12.960 --> 0:50:16.520 clearly not right with the situation and clearly dangerous about 0:50:16.560 --> 0:50:20.040 the situation, yet you're sitting there just sort of waiting 0:50:20.200 --> 0:50:22.520 for it to uh you know, you're you're sitting there 0:50:22.960 --> 0:50:25.600 as as all of your options are suddenly. 0:50:25.520 --> 0:50:26.640 Very quickly going away. 0:50:27.160 --> 0:50:30.400 Also that one of the one of the lawsuits claims 0:50:30.800 --> 0:50:34.000 that the guy, the the main camp guy who ultimately 0:50:34.080 --> 0:50:37.320 died himself an hour two hours ahead of time, was 0:50:37.880 --> 0:50:40.520 when when all the flood warnings came out, started securing 0:50:40.560 --> 0:50:45.279 all the property, uh, all the equipment on the on 0:50:45.360 --> 0:50:48.320 the premises and and not not you know, getting the 0:50:48.400 --> 0:50:52.479 kids to higher ground. So that's certainly a difficult fact. 0:50:52.760 --> 0:50:54.400 So you get a lot of stuff like that to 0:50:54.640 --> 0:50:57.160 to to kind of go through, uh to to sort 0:50:57.200 --> 0:50:59.880 of figure out. But yeah, you know the fact that 0:51:00.040 --> 0:51:02.759 their kids, the fact that they can't fend for themselves. Look, 0:51:02.800 --> 0:51:06.000 it's great ambiance to have a cabin right there at 0:51:06.040 --> 0:51:09.359 the bend of a river. But but when you've had 0:51:09.400 --> 0:51:12.879 to evacuate the thing before and you're in a place 0:51:12.960 --> 0:51:17.040 that they call flood alley, you just gotta gotta be 0:51:17.120 --> 0:51:18.000 smarter than that, you know. 0:51:18.239 --> 0:51:20.719 And it's it looks for the grace of God, go 0:51:20.840 --> 0:51:21.640 I it's easy for. 0:51:21.719 --> 0:51:25.480 Me to Monday morning quarterback this thing, Uh and you know, 0:51:25.840 --> 0:51:27.480 certainly in the face of tragedy, that's. 0:51:27.360 --> 0:51:28.160 Not what we want to do. 0:51:29.120 --> 0:51:31.359 But again, we'll see if we'll see if the suit 0:51:31.440 --> 0:51:33.800 has legs, and we'll see if any of the things 0:51:33.840 --> 0:51:35.480 that they're saying have merit. 0:51:36.360 --> 0:51:40.920 Right like flood alley, yes, but never a flood of 0:51:41.080 --> 0:51:46.520 this nature where it just came so rapidly like right 0:51:46.760 --> 0:51:46.960 like that? 0:51:47.440 --> 0:51:47.800 Correct? 0:51:47.960 --> 0:51:48.160 Is that. 0:51:49.719 --> 0:51:52.360 Is that there's ever been a flood like this before 0:51:52.840 --> 0:51:56.120 in terms of how fast it came on that that's 0:51:56.200 --> 0:51:59.920 part of your defense, all right, is the act of 0:52:00.120 --> 0:52:01.759 is that does that fall in the act of God? 0:52:02.960 --> 0:52:03.160 Well? 0:52:03.320 --> 0:52:05.160 And and that's a great point. So the act of 0:52:05.239 --> 0:52:10.239 God really has it has dual importance here. First is 0:52:10.480 --> 0:52:14.080 that if you're defending the case, that's that's how you're 0:52:14.120 --> 0:52:16.239 defending it, right, you're saying that this is an act 0:52:16.280 --> 0:52:19.960 of God. The second issue is that if there's insurance 0:52:20.040 --> 0:52:24.000 money here that you're trying to get through this lawsuit, 0:52:25.080 --> 0:52:27.320 you know, you I don't know whether or not the 0:52:27.360 --> 0:52:29.520 insurance company can try to wiggle out by saying this 0:52:29.680 --> 0:52:30.880 was an act of God, and we're not. 0:52:31.040 --> 0:52:34.080 We're not liable for for acts of God. So so 0:52:34.239 --> 0:52:35.840 it you know that part of it is. 0:52:37.600 --> 0:52:39.960 That that part of it is is certainly an element 0:52:40.080 --> 0:52:45.080 of this of this equation, you know, and again, uh, 0:52:46.320 --> 0:52:48.400 part of it to think about. This is an interesting 0:52:48.480 --> 0:52:50.120 fact which I don't know how much this is going 0:52:50.200 --> 0:52:54.160 to really weigh into all this, But the director died also, 0:52:54.680 --> 0:52:56.560 you know, one of the guys who they're blaming for 0:52:56.840 --> 0:52:58.520 a lot of the negligence and a lot of the 0:52:58.719 --> 0:53:02.640 things that were overlooked and done incorrectly. He passed, He died, 0:53:02.719 --> 0:53:05.959 you know, So it's real hard to blame that guy 0:53:06.120 --> 0:53:10.200 who who kind of gave his life. Uh maybe you know, 0:53:10.680 --> 0:53:14.000 maybe maybe some of his fault caused his own you know, 0:53:14.120 --> 0:53:16.440 his own death. But it's real hard to blame somebody 0:53:16.520 --> 0:53:20.920 who you know, the guy who went down with the Titanic, right, yeah. 0:53:21.480 --> 0:53:25.800 Yeah, well perfect example with the with that, Jeremy, we 0:53:25.880 --> 0:53:28.200 will let you go, buddy. It is always our pleasure. 0:53:28.520 --> 0:53:29.399 Thank you so much. 0:53:31.320 --> 0:53:32.360 All right, you got it. 0:53:32.640 --> 0:53:35.239 Thank you, take care of buddy. Are a good friend 0:53:35.280 --> 0:53:38.200 to Jeremy Rosenthal. I like, I like when you guys 0:53:38.280 --> 0:53:40.560 have him. He's he's really good and he knows what 0:53:40.640 --> 0:53:43.719 he's talking about for sure. But something that I uh 0:53:44.320 --> 0:53:47.560 was thinking about there because he brought up that they're 0:53:48.920 --> 0:53:54.239 somebody was would have said made the call to tell 0:53:54.320 --> 0:53:56.480 these people to get the hell out of there? Well, 0:53:56.760 --> 0:54:00.120 what would have had what happened? If I don't and 0:54:00.200 --> 0:54:02.640 it's all come out in the wash, I reckon. But 0:54:02.760 --> 0:54:05.960 if somebody did call one of the eighteen nineteen year 0:54:06.000 --> 0:54:11.000 old girls that were there mining these kids and said, look, 0:54:11.120 --> 0:54:13.480 you need to get out of there, and the girls 0:54:14.440 --> 0:54:17.640 either freaked out and said no, We're going to stay put. 0:54:18.400 --> 0:54:21.880 Now talk about muddy in the water that I'm not 0:54:22.080 --> 0:54:24.560 saying that. I'm just saying there were so many probabilities 0:54:24.600 --> 0:54:27.279 and possibilities here that God, this was going to go 0:54:27.360 --> 0:54:29.160 on for a little bit man, And then you know, 0:54:29.280 --> 0:54:33.800 like like some people who could provide answers potentially aren't 0:54:33.800 --> 0:54:36.759 with us anymore. Going Yeah, with that, we check in 0:54:36.880 --> 0:54:39.560 with traffic and weather, what is going on, what's going on. 0:54:39.960 --> 0:54:42.239 From the UC Health Traffic Center. 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Oh yeah, 0:56:59.000 --> 0:57:03.760 And it's in Oxford, so that's literally I think twenty 0:57:03.880 --> 0:57:07.120 minutes from his house maybe something like that. He lives 0:57:07.120 --> 0:57:10.120 out in Harrison, Yeah yeah, yeah, so he can just 0:57:10.160 --> 0:57:12.279 sweep right over there, little back roads. I don't know 0:57:12.320 --> 0:57:15.919 what the roads are from there to Oxford, but well, 0:57:16.000 --> 0:57:17.640 he'll probably go out there and see if he can 0:57:17.720 --> 0:57:20.520 see the Oxford lights again. Have you heard him talk 0:57:20.560 --> 0:57:23.720 about that story, the so called Oxford Lights with the 0:57:24.320 --> 0:57:28.720 ghost motorcycle, right, Yes, coming home from the war to Yes. 0:57:28.880 --> 0:57:31.480 And I don't know if he gets his head chopped 0:57:31.520 --> 0:57:33.840 off and there was an hook in the door. Hell, 0:57:33.920 --> 0:57:37.800 I forget all the all the gory details, but yeah. 0:57:38.240 --> 0:57:41.440 I should he should be home midnight whatever, get some 0:57:41.520 --> 0:57:44.320 good rest, back on the Eddie and Rocky Show tomorrow. 0:57:44.280 --> 0:57:47.000 Boom, and then head out a get on Friday, four 0:57:47.080 --> 0:57:50.880 points unknown. So coming up next, we're going to be 0:57:50.960 --> 0:57:54.560 talking to our good friend, doctor Bruce Herman, and we 0:57:54.640 --> 0:57:56.560 haven't had him on in a bit because he's been 0:57:56.640 --> 0:58:00.480 on IR. We try to get him a couple of 0:58:00.560 --> 0:58:04.840 weeks ago, and I get a text back from his 0:58:05.160 --> 0:58:08.840 wife saying, Oh, Bruce is sorry that he can't be 0:58:09.040 --> 0:58:12.320 on the show. He's in the hospital right now. I 0:58:12.440 --> 0:58:14.360 think he sounds like he has bore important stuff to 0:58:14.400 --> 0:58:17.760 worry about than me, and uh, nice for her to 0:58:17.800 --> 0:58:21.280 get back with you. Well, it turns out that I've 0:58:21.320 --> 0:58:24.160 been in contact with him. Case in point, we're going 0:58:24.200 --> 0:58:27.720 to have him after the news. But he was passing 0:58:27.760 --> 0:58:32.360 a kidney stone and from everything I've heard, that is 0:58:32.560 --> 0:58:35.800 just awful. My wife had one of those last year, 0:58:36.320 --> 0:58:39.560 middle of the night. She had to go to the er. 0:58:40.720 --> 0:58:42.760 It was brutal. That's kind of I think that's kind 0:58:42.760 --> 0:58:44.320 of what happened to him. Had kind of came out 0:58:44.360 --> 0:58:49.160 of nowhere and get me to the hospital and they 0:58:49.440 --> 0:58:51.400 didn't take him long to figure out exactly what she 0:58:51.480 --> 0:58:56.240 thought her pennix burst, right, Yeah, that's what it was. Yeah, 0:58:56.280 --> 0:58:58.120 I remember like, yeah, she was in that would seem 0:58:58.160 --> 0:59:00.720 to come from the same area. I don't know experienced it, 0:59:00.800 --> 0:59:03.920 but yeah, that a'll make sense. We will be talking 0:59:04.000 --> 0:59:06.120 to doctor Herman, but that's after the news. Right now, 0:59:06.200 --> 0:59:08.720 News Radio seven hundred WLW. 0:59:09.280 --> 0:59:16.120 News Traffic and Weather. News Radio seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati. 0:59:16.440 --> 0:59:19.200 The House is back the last Turtles, reopening the government 0:59:19.400 --> 0:59:22.440 with the four point thirty report. 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I'm Sean Gaalbagher News Radio seven hundred W. 1:04:03.960 --> 1:04:07.320 Well Experience the Arts live in Oxford this November at 1:04:07.360 --> 1:04:11.160 Miami University with music, Mutz and Murder Celebrate the Power 1:04:11.240 --> 1:04:14.160 of Song The Men Glee Club Concert November seven. 1:04:14.040 --> 1:04:16.560 And Jay Sweet go to our guests now, and it's 1:04:16.600 --> 1:04:20.000 good to have him back. He is our good friend. 1:04:20.280 --> 1:04:24.680 Doctor Bruce Herman, board certified plastic surgeon. He hosts the 1:04:24.760 --> 1:04:27.080 weekly show Nip Talk. He has been on this show 1:04:27.280 --> 1:04:33.320 multiple times. Always love having doctor Bruce Herman. Doc, welcome back, Hey, 1:04:33.440 --> 1:04:34.000 thanks for having me. 1:04:34.280 --> 1:04:34.520 First. 1:04:34.600 --> 1:04:38.160 Rocky Today is Bigation. He is uh no, Actually he 1:04:38.320 --> 1:04:42.880 does football games for ESPN. So he's doing a football Yeah, 1:04:43.000 --> 1:04:45.760 he's doing a football game tonight. Oh all right, but 1:04:46.680 --> 1:04:48.800 you can trust Jason over here. He's all right. I 1:04:48.880 --> 1:04:54.440 got a lot of tough leading questions for you, Doc, Right, Nay, 1:04:54.760 --> 1:04:58.440 he's a really good question. He's a reporter. So Die, 1:04:58.920 --> 1:05:01.640 let's well let's talk. First off, we were talking a 1:05:01.680 --> 1:05:03.960 little bit about it a little while ago. You've been 1:05:04.000 --> 1:05:07.760 on I r uh would turn out to be kidney 1:05:07.800 --> 1:05:10.360 stones is hourly because I where we're worried about it. 1:05:10.480 --> 1:05:12.680 I told them to I was still at Jason. I 1:05:12.680 --> 1:05:14.960 don't think I said it on the air, but you know, 1:05:15.240 --> 1:05:17.400 you and I always text, and I text you to 1:05:17.880 --> 1:05:23.080 be on and I hadn't heard from me or uh right, 1:05:23.360 --> 1:05:25.520 and then I get a text back from your wife. 1:05:25.600 --> 1:05:27.480 I don't know what was going on. 1:05:29.760 --> 1:05:32.880 Yeah, man, you just caught me. Uh yeah, at a 1:05:33.000 --> 1:05:35.000 pretty bad time. So I had a kidney stone. Man, 1:05:35.040 --> 1:05:38.000 welcome to middle age. I guess start things start falling apart. 1:05:38.160 --> 1:05:39.440 And uh man, I don't know if you ever had 1:05:39.440 --> 1:05:42.560 a kidney stone, but I highly do not recommend getting 1:05:42.720 --> 1:05:44.520 one because it is very painful. 1:05:44.600 --> 1:05:46.280 And uh yeah, I did miss work. 1:05:46.320 --> 1:05:48.120 I never miss work, and it kind of freaked out 1:05:48.160 --> 1:05:50.040 my wife because like I would barely even go to 1:05:50.120 --> 1:05:52.200 the doctor. And I woke up and I was like, Dan, 1:05:52.240 --> 1:05:53.440 it's like I needed to go to the hospital like 1:05:53.560 --> 1:05:55.600 right now. Of course like that, since my wife it's 1:05:55.720 --> 1:05:57.280 like a panic because he's not used to hearing me 1:05:57.360 --> 1:06:00.320 say stuff like that. But yeah, anyway, so too a 1:06:00.360 --> 1:06:01.280 couple of weeks to get over that. 1:06:01.400 --> 1:06:02.440 So yeah, I was a real bummer. 1:06:02.520 --> 1:06:04.600 But yeah, sorry I missed you guys a couple weeks ago. 1:06:05.440 --> 1:06:08.200 No, everything I've ever heard about it, doc is that 1:06:08.360 --> 1:06:12.880 that's just a hor horrible experience. Yeah, yeah, I do 1:06:13.080 --> 1:06:16.680 not recommend thumbs down. Well, let's uh, let's talk about 1:06:16.720 --> 1:06:20.720 what we're here to talk about. Millennials almost matching a 1:06:20.880 --> 1:06:24.760 gen Z shot for a shot with botox, what they're 1:06:24.800 --> 1:06:28.800 calling baby botox, and it's not given a two year 1:06:28.840 --> 1:06:34.120 old botox. Don't think that, Yeah, but young people doing essentially, 1:06:34.840 --> 1:06:39.600 doc Herman, the is it? It's prevented. They're considering it preventative. Yeah, 1:06:39.680 --> 1:06:40.800 prevented botox. Yeah. 1:06:40.880 --> 1:06:43.520 So yeah, I talk about this all the time. 1:06:43.840 --> 1:06:46.840 And you know, you may be surprised. 1:06:46.280 --> 1:06:49.720 When I say what age I think people should start botox. 1:06:50.280 --> 1:06:52.680 I bet it'll be a little earlier than you think. 1:06:52.880 --> 1:06:57.040 I believe around thirty is a good time. And the 1:06:57.080 --> 1:07:01.000 reason I used that age group is because in our 1:07:01.160 --> 1:07:04.560 thirties is when the lines that we have on our 1:07:04.680 --> 1:07:08.760 forehead and around our eyes and between our eyebrows start 1:07:08.800 --> 1:07:12.440 to get permanently etched in from just repetitive motion, repetitive 1:07:12.480 --> 1:07:16.000 motion over the decades, and so if you start using 1:07:16.160 --> 1:07:20.440 botox before those lines start setting in, you'll never get them. 1:07:20.480 --> 1:07:22.160 And I always use my wife as an example. She 1:07:22.200 --> 1:07:24.920 probably hates this, but you know, she did that exact thing. 1:07:25.120 --> 1:07:27.040 She started using botox right about the time that I 1:07:27.080 --> 1:07:30.880 got into plastic surgery. And now she's fifty years old, 1:07:31.040 --> 1:07:33.280 and she doesn't have any wrinkles, and it looks, you know, 1:07:33.480 --> 1:07:34.160 very natural. 1:07:34.280 --> 1:07:35.520 It's not like a fake look. 1:07:35.600 --> 1:07:38.560 It's just that the wrinkles that she would normally have 1:07:38.760 --> 1:07:42.400 at this age, just from using those muscles for frowning 1:07:42.520 --> 1:07:46.000 and raising your eyebrows and smiling around your eyes, have 1:07:46.280 --> 1:07:48.720 never formed. And so, you know, I think getting that 1:07:48.920 --> 1:07:52.920 twenty is a little bit aggressive, honestly. I mean, it 1:07:52.920 --> 1:07:55.440 would stop the passive lines. But I think people look 1:07:55.520 --> 1:07:58.400 so young at twenty anyway, I'm not sure they're gaining 1:07:58.480 --> 1:07:59.000 a whole lot. 1:07:59.120 --> 1:08:00.360 But yeah, ask me. 1:08:00.440 --> 1:08:02.520 I mean, I think thirty is a reasonable age or 1:08:02.600 --> 1:08:04.080 even a little bit later. 1:08:04.840 --> 1:08:04.960 Uh. 1:08:05.480 --> 1:08:08.640 And I've always said this, I do honestly believe, and 1:08:08.800 --> 1:08:11.720 I and I don't make hardly any money from doing botox, 1:08:11.800 --> 1:08:14.760 but I do honestly believe that botox is one of 1:08:14.840 --> 1:08:17.960 the lowest hanging fruits that you can do if you 1:08:18.040 --> 1:08:20.080 want to look young into your middle years. 1:08:20.880 --> 1:08:24.040 We're talking to doctor Bruce Herman and the doc to 1:08:24.240 --> 1:08:26.439 use your well, you use your poor wife as an 1:08:26.439 --> 1:08:29.960 example again, but what you're sorry you were saying, she's 1:08:30.320 --> 1:08:32.840 you know, she's fifty, but you know it doesn't have 1:08:33.000 --> 1:08:36.439 the wrinkles and stuff and it looks natural. Is that 1:08:36.600 --> 1:08:40.920 the reason why so many of the Hollywood people we 1:08:41.080 --> 1:08:45.880 see they wait until they are fifty and get botox 1:08:46.040 --> 1:08:50.679 or plastic surgery, and so it's so noticeable as opposed 1:08:50.720 --> 1:08:54.519 to just like never really taking over the course of time. 1:08:55.560 --> 1:08:58.120 Yeah, it really when you when you talk about people 1:08:58.200 --> 1:09:01.120 looking unnaturally, it does kind of depend on what treatment 1:09:01.160 --> 1:09:03.799 you're talking about. I mean, you can definitely look unnatural 1:09:03.960 --> 1:09:06.240 botox if it's overdone. 1:09:06.120 --> 1:09:08.360 And you have like zero expression, and so. 1:09:08.479 --> 1:09:12.599 Really good boatoks will eliminate the wrinkles but still leave 1:09:12.720 --> 1:09:16.320 you normal facial expressions, and there's definitely an artistry to it, 1:09:16.360 --> 1:09:18.880 which means, you know, if you're a consumer out there 1:09:19.040 --> 1:09:21.040 wanting to get botox, you got to find somebody that's 1:09:21.080 --> 1:09:23.560 good and just like finding a good hairstylist. 1:09:23.640 --> 1:09:25.240 Sometimes that can be a challenge. 1:09:26.240 --> 1:09:29.879 But you know, a lot of the Hollywood celebrities look overdone, 1:09:30.000 --> 1:09:32.280 mostly due to fillers. I mean, there's just such a 1:09:32.439 --> 1:09:36.599 fine line with fillers between looking good and looking natural 1:09:36.760 --> 1:09:39.639 and oops, now I look like an alien like Madonna 1:09:39.720 --> 1:09:40.880 did back a few years ago. 1:09:41.520 --> 1:09:44.760 Uh so, you know, I mean, I'm a I'm a 1:09:44.840 --> 1:09:46.840 poor live hope. She never listened to show. She does 1:09:46.960 --> 1:09:49.040 use a few fillers, but of course, you know, I'm 1:09:49.080 --> 1:09:49.960 the one doing them. 1:09:49.880 --> 1:09:52.000 And I guarantee you no one would think that she'd 1:09:52.000 --> 1:09:54.960 ever had fillers, Like, no one, because they're done properly. 1:09:55.080 --> 1:09:55.880 They're very subtle. 1:09:56.000 --> 1:09:59.280 They you know, fix some of the normal kind of 1:09:59.560 --> 1:10:01.920 fault to the face that you get as you, you know, 1:10:02.080 --> 1:10:04.479 get into your forties and fifties, but you don't go 1:10:04.760 --> 1:10:06.839 past that point where it starts to be noticeable. 1:10:06.960 --> 1:10:07.799 So I think. 1:10:07.800 --> 1:10:11.040 Celebrities oftentimes get a little bit and they look better 1:10:11.120 --> 1:10:13.879 and they're like more more or more right, and then suddenly, 1:10:14.040 --> 1:10:14.519 you know, like. 1:10:14.720 --> 1:10:16.800 You look like a completely different person. 1:10:16.960 --> 1:10:19.000 So yeah, they really need to like come have me 1:10:19.160 --> 1:10:23.200 be their personal like you know, uh, you know, advisors going. 1:10:23.080 --> 1:10:24.080 To like ghet the stop button. 1:10:24.120 --> 1:10:24.360 I think. 1:10:24.880 --> 1:10:28.200 So if you're doing the preventative at a younger age thirty, 1:10:28.479 --> 1:10:32.439 like you said, around thirty years old, do you even 1:10:33.400 --> 1:10:36.080 can you even notice it? Like if I had a 1:10:36.120 --> 1:10:39.360 friend's thirty and he or she did it, and I 1:10:39.400 --> 1:10:41.600 would would I even be able to tell if the 1:10:41.680 --> 1:10:42.360 person did or not? 1:10:43.880 --> 1:10:46.560 Uh, if you know what to look for, yes, but 1:10:46.920 --> 1:10:48.200 most people don't. 1:10:48.320 --> 1:10:50.720 Like I can tell when someone's had botox. 1:10:50.360 --> 1:10:53.519 Even if it's really really good, But like, would it 1:10:53.600 --> 1:10:55.880 be noticeable to the average person. No, not if it's 1:10:55.920 --> 1:10:56.639 properly done. 1:10:57.320 --> 1:11:01.439 Uh. So you know, if you're thirty and you want 1:11:01.439 --> 1:11:02.400 to get it, you can get it. 1:11:02.560 --> 1:11:06.040 And I promise nobody will know unless they're just like 1:11:06.200 --> 1:11:08.360 in the business and know the very subtle things to 1:11:08.400 --> 1:11:08.680 look for. 1:11:09.160 --> 1:11:10.920 Yeah, but you know it's preventative treatment. 1:11:11.000 --> 1:11:11.120 Man. 1:11:11.200 --> 1:11:12.840 If you get it and you stick with it, like, 1:11:13.000 --> 1:11:16.040 you will not get those wrinkles. And I guarantee eventually 1:11:16.160 --> 1:11:16.559 all of us. 1:11:16.560 --> 1:11:18.479 And I'm starting to get them myself, and my office 1:11:18.479 --> 1:11:20.479 is hounded me to start botox, and I've been telling 1:11:20.520 --> 1:11:24.200 them know, but uh yeah, I mean eventually you get them. 1:11:24.240 --> 1:11:25.360 Time catches up with all of this. 1:11:25.560 --> 1:11:27.640 But you know, botox is one of those things that 1:11:27.960 --> 1:11:29.760 can kind of keep at least the wrinkles on the 1:11:29.840 --> 1:11:32.840 forehead between the eyebrows and then the smile lines or 1:11:32.960 --> 1:11:34.599 crow's feed from ever developing. 1:11:34.760 --> 1:11:36.680 So if you're doing it as a preventative measure at 1:11:36.720 --> 1:11:40.280 that again, at younger age, like do you does it 1:11:40.600 --> 1:11:44.200 give you physically? Make you feel good? Does it make 1:11:44.280 --> 1:11:46.840 your face feel good? Or I guess it doesn't even 1:11:46.880 --> 1:11:49.240 matter if you're doing it. You're even doing it matter 1:11:49.320 --> 1:11:52.519 if you're doing it at sixty like do you again, 1:11:52.600 --> 1:11:54.840 not not the vanity part of it, but even like 1:11:54.920 --> 1:11:56.920 a physical feeling from it. 1:11:57.000 --> 1:11:59.800 Yeah, so there's no physical feeling. But there is a 1:12:00.160 --> 1:12:03.720 very interesting side effect from getting botox. And this is 1:12:03.800 --> 1:12:06.280 not something that we really tut but I assure you 1:12:06.400 --> 1:12:06.880 it's real. 1:12:07.040 --> 1:12:07.719 I mean almost. 1:12:08.320 --> 1:12:09.920 I don't want to say every patient, but I have 1:12:10.160 --> 1:12:12.200 so many patients tell me this. If you have a 1:12:12.360 --> 1:12:15.560 history of headaches and you get botox, there is a 1:12:15.920 --> 1:12:19.000 very very high likelihood that you will see a notable 1:12:19.080 --> 1:12:21.439 decrease in the amount of headaches you get. Why, because 1:12:21.439 --> 1:12:23.920 of the muscles of the scalp oftentimes of the origin 1:12:24.080 --> 1:12:28.080 of headaches, and so by relaxing those muscles, you oftentimes 1:12:28.120 --> 1:12:30.000 will see if you have chronic headaches. 1:12:29.720 --> 1:12:30.280 That they get better. 1:12:30.880 --> 1:12:34.599 We're talking to doctor Bruce Herman and Doc Okay, let's 1:12:34.640 --> 1:12:39.960 say I started at thirty, am I if am I 1:12:40.120 --> 1:12:43.800 now obligated to get these more or less for the 1:12:43.840 --> 1:12:46.160 rest of my life. If I quit doing it, say 1:12:46.240 --> 1:12:49.840 when I'm sixty, is my face just going to drop off? 1:12:50.040 --> 1:12:52.800 Like picture of Dorian Gray or some such or what's 1:12:52.880 --> 1:12:53.200 the deal? 1:12:53.240 --> 1:12:56.360 No, basically what would happen, Say, for example, you. 1:12:56.600 --> 1:12:58.880 Do it from thirty to forty, and if forty rolls 1:12:58.920 --> 1:13:01.960 along in your life, you know what, forget this, I'm done. 1:13:02.120 --> 1:13:05.519 So you basically stop the clock as far as those 1:13:05.640 --> 1:13:09.880 rinking wrinkles forming. But now when you stop the boatox 1:13:09.960 --> 1:13:13.360 the clock starts, and so you basically have ten years 1:13:13.920 --> 1:13:17.160 you know, advantage of those wrinkles not forming. But if 1:13:17.240 --> 1:13:19.920 you stop using it and then those muscles start working again, 1:13:20.479 --> 1:13:22.960 over time, those wrinkles would develop, and they probably would 1:13:22.960 --> 1:13:25.320 develop a little bit quicker as we age because the 1:13:25.360 --> 1:13:27.880 skin is not quite as resilient, it doesn't have as 1:13:27.960 --> 1:13:30.479 much elasticity, and it's a little bit more prone to 1:13:30.479 --> 1:13:31.440 wrinkle anyway. 1:13:31.240 --> 1:13:32.040 Just with normal aging. 1:13:33.880 --> 1:13:35.920 That's that's fascinating. So how did. 1:13:36.600 --> 1:13:39.960 How did this phenomenon even get started of younger folks 1:13:41.000 --> 1:13:43.200 thinking or like wanting to do this prevented? 1:13:43.680 --> 1:13:46.599 Was this a TikTok thing or some money? 1:13:46.800 --> 1:13:48.080 That's that's the biggest one. 1:13:48.280 --> 1:13:49.400 Yeah, you hit the nail on the head. 1:13:49.439 --> 1:13:51.479 And there's a lot of reasons why younger people are 1:13:51.560 --> 1:13:54.240 getting more procedures done. And we know this from the 1:13:54.360 --> 1:13:57.840 data that the American syudio plastic surgeons look at every 1:13:57.960 --> 1:14:01.360 year on who is getting what. And we've seen a 1:14:01.439 --> 1:14:04.280 trend in the last ten years that the average age 1:14:04.320 --> 1:14:07.280 of people seeking treatments is starting to go down. Historically, 1:14:07.360 --> 1:14:09.960 plastic surgery was reserved for like, you know, only middle 1:14:10.000 --> 1:14:12.280 aged people. They're only ones that are doing or even older. 1:14:12.840 --> 1:14:15.479 But what's happened, you know, social media has hit a rise. 1:14:15.640 --> 1:14:19.120 People are seeing you know, pictures of themselves on their socials, 1:14:19.160 --> 1:14:22.320 they're seeing their their video when they're doing zoom calls 1:14:22.400 --> 1:14:25.960 these days, the so called zoom effect. They're seeing influencers 1:14:26.080 --> 1:14:30.080 and celebrities talk about these treatments all the time. And 1:14:30.240 --> 1:14:33.360 so then and there's also that you know, unrealistic expectation 1:14:33.479 --> 1:14:34.360 of beauty that's been in the. 1:14:34.439 --> 1:14:35.280 United States forever. 1:14:35.400 --> 1:14:37.960 So when you combine all those things, but you hit 1:14:38.000 --> 1:14:39.920 the nail on the head mostly the rise of social 1:14:40.000 --> 1:14:42.800 media and the things that come along with that. It's 1:14:42.840 --> 1:14:46.479 not really surprising at all that younger people are starting 1:14:46.520 --> 1:14:47.639 to seek out these treatments. 1:14:47.680 --> 1:14:50.280 And I think it's okay partly. 1:14:50.439 --> 1:14:52.760 I mean, again, you know, at thirty year old get 1:14:52.760 --> 1:14:54.760 in botox, I don't have a problem with that. You know, 1:14:54.840 --> 1:14:56.120 there was a story and I don't know if you 1:14:56.200 --> 1:14:57.720 guys were going to bring this one up, but I 1:14:57.800 --> 1:15:00.400 did a segment on my show a few weeks back 1:15:00.479 --> 1:15:03.640 about a twenty nine year old getting a facelift, and 1:15:03.760 --> 1:15:07.160 I was just like, what, who what doctor would do 1:15:07.280 --> 1:15:09.000 a facelift on a twenty. 1:15:08.840 --> 1:15:09.519 Nine year old? 1:15:10.200 --> 1:15:12.120 And so yeah, I mean that's just like a whole 1:15:12.200 --> 1:15:15.800 nother discussion when you start to dive into surgeries that 1:15:15.920 --> 1:15:18.839 are generally reserved for people that are, you know, fifty 1:15:18.960 --> 1:15:21.400 or sixty and you're getting them a twenty Like, I mean, 1:15:21.439 --> 1:15:22.120 that's a problem. 1:15:22.320 --> 1:15:24.000 I do have a big issue with that. So this 1:15:24.200 --> 1:15:28.320 was like the normal person, not some you know, elephant 1:15:28.479 --> 1:15:31.920 man kind of person or victim of an accent or something. 1:15:32.000 --> 1:15:35.200 It would just some mirando nine year old decided they 1:15:35.240 --> 1:15:37.840 wanted to look like young Madonna or something. 1:15:38.680 --> 1:15:40.040 That's totally crazy. 1:15:40.160 --> 1:15:42.200 And so, you know, one of my biggest, you know, 1:15:42.360 --> 1:15:45.080 gripes about doing a facelift is, you know, one of 1:15:45.160 --> 1:15:47.839 the major parts of doing a face lift is tightening 1:15:48.080 --> 1:15:50.479 the deep structures of the face. So there's a fashion 1:15:50.560 --> 1:15:52.960 layer along the muscle and then also the muscle of 1:15:53.000 --> 1:15:54.680 the neck which starts to fall as we age, and 1:15:54.760 --> 1:15:57.320 that's really what a facelift is doing, is tightening those 1:15:57.400 --> 1:15:58.520 deep structures. 1:15:58.120 --> 1:15:59.479 In addition tightening the skin. 1:16:00.160 --> 1:16:02.360 I mean, it's almost impossible for someone in. 1:16:02.400 --> 1:16:05.400 Their twenties to have any fall of those structures, but 1:16:05.520 --> 1:16:09.080 I will give a very very small asterisk. 1:16:09.479 --> 1:16:10.120 If it's safe. 1:16:10.160 --> 1:16:14.160 For example, somebody weighed four hundred pounds and then suddenly 1:16:14.240 --> 1:16:17.160 they get on neozimbic and they lose two two hundred 1:16:17.160 --> 1:16:19.880 and fifty pounds, it might be possible. That would be 1:16:20.000 --> 1:16:22.519 maybe the only time where I was like, Okay, this 1:16:22.840 --> 1:16:27.040 very very young person actually does have the issues that 1:16:27.160 --> 1:16:29.320 are corrected by facelift. But I saw the pictures of 1:16:29.360 --> 1:16:31.479 this girl and that was not the case. You know, 1:16:31.640 --> 1:16:34.560 somebody took advantage of this poor girl, and actually I 1:16:34.640 --> 1:16:36.240 looked it up. She actually went out of the country 1:16:36.320 --> 1:16:39.800 she did in Turkey, which you know we've talked about medical. Yeah, 1:16:39.840 --> 1:16:41.680 we talked about medical tourism all the time and how 1:16:41.760 --> 1:16:45.320 I really don't like it, and so, you know, at 1:16:45.400 --> 1:16:48.439 least was thankful to know that, you know, some regular 1:16:48.479 --> 1:16:51.519 plastic surgeon. It's not doing facelifts on people in their twenties. 1:16:51.560 --> 1:16:54.479 That would really kind of make me upset. But yeah, 1:16:54.560 --> 1:16:55.439 this was out of the country. 1:16:55.600 --> 1:16:57.680 All right, with that, doc, we will let you go. 1:16:57.800 --> 1:16:59.519 People want to find out more. Where can they go 1:16:59.680 --> 1:17:00.280 to five you? 1:17:01.439 --> 1:17:01.639 Yeah. 1:17:01.840 --> 1:17:05.479 So I have my weekly podcast, Nip Talk It air 1:17:06.040 --> 1:17:09.000 due to every Friday Vibe. You can catch the segments 1:17:09.040 --> 1:17:11.920 as we put them up along along the league if 1:17:11.920 --> 1:17:13.840 you don't watch the whole show. Also, I do a 1:17:13.880 --> 1:17:17.320 lot on Instagram under Dallas Nip Tuck. So'd love for 1:17:17.320 --> 1:17:19.639 you guys to come out and check out my stuff. 1:17:19.880 --> 1:17:22.960 All right, buddy, thanks so much. All it's all good 1:17:23.000 --> 1:17:25.320 to talk to you guys. Glad you're feeling better. Thank 1:17:25.360 --> 1:17:30.080 you our good friend doctor Bruce Herman. But yeah, it's 1:17:30.120 --> 1:17:32.519 pretty bad when a surgeon says I would never do 1:17:32.640 --> 1:17:36.519 that surgery, but that yeah, because I would say, I 1:17:36.640 --> 1:17:39.519 bet a facelift is a nice, nice paycheck for a doctor. 1:17:40.120 --> 1:17:43.519 One with Yeah. 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Earlier in the program, we 1:19:42.920 --> 1:19:47.000 talked to your good friend Andy Furman. Oh, yes, the 1:19:47.080 --> 1:19:51.320 fur Ball, her ball, who was correct me if I'm wrong. 1:19:51.920 --> 1:19:55.599 He was not the first replacement for Bob Trumpy. 1:19:57.520 --> 1:19:59.479 Why, you know, back in the good old days after 1:19:59.520 --> 1:20:01.759 the Trumps, he left for the glories that lie ahead. 1:20:02.520 --> 1:20:05.559 Uh you had Chris Collinsworth's kind of in the bullpen 1:20:05.640 --> 1:20:09.040 warming up, you had the fur Ball warming up. You 1:20:09.240 --> 1:20:11.720 had one or two others, but fur Ball was the 1:20:11.880 --> 1:20:15.720 main shall we say, a clog. But Collinsworth needed so 1:20:15.840 --> 1:20:18.800 much help, didn't understand media. Trump told him to quit 1:20:18.880 --> 1:20:21.000 talking like you're a trumpet, like you're some sort of 1:20:21.000 --> 1:20:23.000 a hillbilly. You got to get rid of that twang. 1:20:23.560 --> 1:20:26.479 And uh so, and he was there with his dulcet 1:20:26.600 --> 1:20:29.120 tones to keep the. 1:20:32.560 --> 1:20:35.880 New York, New York accent, yes accents. 1:20:36.360 --> 1:20:39.200 So, yes, he was there. He was a legend and 1:20:39.240 --> 1:20:41.439 he was good. And you know, a sports talk has 1:20:41.479 --> 1:20:45.360 had many great and some not so great, but nonetheless, yes, 1:20:45.520 --> 1:20:48.240 he was there. And I want to bring up something 1:20:48.320 --> 1:20:50.840 that Jason brought up with your permission, that he because 1:20:50.840 --> 1:20:53.679 I'm watching it right now on nine where nine stands 1:20:53.720 --> 1:20:58.799 for news. Please, yeah, right now, I'm watching Joe Burrow 1:20:59.360 --> 1:21:03.200 run around the practice facility with nothing on his feet 1:21:03.280 --> 1:21:07.519 at all, throwing eighty yard touchdown passes to Jamar Chase 1:21:07.600 --> 1:21:11.320 in the corner of the end zone, and Joe Flaco 1:21:12.280 --> 1:21:16.160 is fielding balls for Joe Burrow. Could there be a 1:21:16.280 --> 1:21:21.200 surprise come come Sunday. Could it be that Burrow is activated? 1:21:21.840 --> 1:21:25.720 Flaco's AC joint continues to hurt. And in order to 1:21:25.760 --> 1:21:28.920 say save the season, you got to win at Pittsburgh 1:21:29.160 --> 1:21:30.840 and you got to win it home against New England, 1:21:30.880 --> 1:21:32.680 who might be the best team in the NFC right now. 1:21:32.920 --> 1:21:35.320 And if you lose those two games and you're three 1:21:35.400 --> 1:21:39.439 and eight, you mazo, you maso, yurinate away the season 1:21:39.560 --> 1:21:43.200 because it's over. And So I'm watching Joe right now 1:21:43.360 --> 1:21:46.360 on Channel nine and I'm watching him throw the ball 1:21:46.439 --> 1:21:49.880 and running around. I'm thinking, Hey, what are we watching here? 1:21:50.040 --> 1:21:53.439 It's been what about Uh, it's been all about two months, 1:21:54.120 --> 1:21:56.880 not quite two months, from the second game of the 1:21:56.960 --> 1:21:59.519 year until now. But Jason, what do you think? What 1:21:59.640 --> 1:22:02.519 are your orthopedic sources tell you about Joe Burrow? 1:22:03.000 --> 1:22:03.880 This is news to me. 1:22:03.920 --> 1:22:05.519 I mean, I knew he was a practice I just 1:22:06.040 --> 1:22:09.080 I didn't put two and two together. So, but I 1:22:09.160 --> 1:22:12.240 knew Flacco is not practicing to give a shoulder rest 1:22:14.160 --> 1:22:17.519 now now, now, Zach Taylor did come out. I believe 1:22:17.520 --> 1:22:19.960 it was Zach or someone did come out and make 1:22:20.040 --> 1:22:22.800 it clear in his press conference on Monday that he 1:22:22.920 --> 1:22:26.680 will not be playing against Pittsburgh. So I wonder if 1:22:26.760 --> 1:22:31.160 he was heading off your question here, WILLI knowing that 1:22:31.320 --> 1:22:33.479 Flacco was going to take a break and give the 1:22:33.520 --> 1:22:36.280 shoulder a break, which he did prior to the Bears game, 1:22:36.320 --> 1:22:41.599 and then through for nearly five hundred yards. Right, yeah, 1:22:42.160 --> 1:22:46.600 my question back to you, Willie, Yeah right, yeah, I 1:22:46.760 --> 1:22:48.720 just I'm not going to practice during the week, but 1:22:48.760 --> 1:22:51.080 I'll go through for five hundred on the Saturday or 1:22:51.120 --> 1:22:51.679 on Sunday. 1:22:52.120 --> 1:22:56.320 And all the team still is can can George Burrow? 1:22:57.080 --> 1:22:59.599 Can he tackle? Is the big question. That's my question 1:22:59.720 --> 1:23:02.920 for you, because that's the problem. If you haven't heard yet, 1:23:03.360 --> 1:23:04.080 that's the problem. 1:23:05.280 --> 1:23:08.040 The defense is like the imagine O line in World 1:23:08.080 --> 1:23:10.760 War One with the French Army. As the hunt came 1:23:10.840 --> 1:23:13.360 around the right side, imagine the line didn't apply. Now 1:23:13.640 --> 1:23:16.240 this brings up I brought this up to Almo, and 1:23:16.400 --> 1:23:19.760 that is this. I'm watching all the shows simultaneously, and 1:23:19.880 --> 1:23:23.559 the Jets need a quarterback badly, and they got seven 1:23:23.680 --> 1:23:26.439 first round draft picks, so one of the pundits that 1:23:26.640 --> 1:23:29.200 now is the time for the Bengals to trade Joe 1:23:29.320 --> 1:23:32.160 Burrow to the Jets, to New York, give the Bengals 1:23:32.200 --> 1:23:36.320 seven draft picks like the Herschel Walker trade to Dallas 1:23:36.680 --> 1:23:40.519 so many years ago, and then Duke Duke, Duke Totman 1:23:40.760 --> 1:23:42.439 can pick all the stars in the future. 1:23:42.720 --> 1:23:43.439 How about that one? 1:23:43.800 --> 1:23:48.559 Hell no, no, well, what what would the fan base? 1:23:50.000 --> 1:23:52.400 I heard you talking to Rocky about that the other 1:23:52.520 --> 1:23:55.679 day too, and I think Rocky pretty much just said 1:23:55.720 --> 1:23:58.960 what Jason said. But could you imagine the fan base 1:23:59.000 --> 1:24:01.800 here would be, Man, It'd be like a Frankenstein movie. 1:24:01.840 --> 1:24:07.680 They'd be pitchforks and torches in the street, the ladders. 1:24:07.320 --> 1:24:09.160 On the side of Pey Court, they'd be going up 1:24:09.240 --> 1:24:14.160 the building. But nobody in New York shut that down. 1:24:14.240 --> 1:24:16.400 They said, you know what, that's a good idea that 1:24:16.560 --> 1:24:19.479 Jessy haven't had a quarterbacks showed name it's and so 1:24:19.600 --> 1:24:21.639 it might be good to get another Joe in town. 1:24:21.920 --> 1:24:25.160 And I'm thinking, are you crazy? Are you? Can you 1:24:25.240 --> 1:24:28.880 see Jamar Chase and can you see the great number 1:24:28.920 --> 1:24:32.479 one in five te going crazy about getting rid of 1:24:32.560 --> 1:24:36.200 You know that's not gonna What we need is somebody 1:24:36.280 --> 1:24:39.080 that can pick defensive players that within two or three 1:24:39.160 --> 1:24:41.839 years can play defense. Does that make sense to anybody? 1:24:41.880 --> 1:24:45.439 Can Why get Duke Tobin more force round draft choices? Hell? 1:24:46.320 --> 1:24:48.760 He says, the two best draft picks I made with 1:24:48.960 --> 1:24:53.160 Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase. Well, hell, a blind, dumb 1:24:53.240 --> 1:24:55.280 befoone pool would have made those picks. 1:24:55.240 --> 1:25:00.840 Exactly that exactly bragged. God, that's true. Let's put this. 1:25:02.960 --> 1:25:04.960 Eddie and I had Eddie and I had Mark with 1:25:05.040 --> 1:25:07.360 a c Amazon on last week and he was all over, 1:25:07.439 --> 1:25:09.240 he's all about trading Joe Burrow. 1:25:09.320 --> 1:25:10.439 Can we put that the rest? 1:25:10.520 --> 1:25:14.320 Come on? Oh my gosh, come on, that'd be like 1:25:14.439 --> 1:25:17.120 trading Hunter Green. Not quite the thing. 1:25:17.400 --> 1:25:25.040 But nevertheless, whoa screeched. But let me let me ask 1:25:25.080 --> 1:25:29.600 you guys something, because Burrow has become a bit of 1:25:29.760 --> 1:25:32.439 a name it style kind of guy. 1:25:33.160 --> 1:25:33.479 He is. 1:25:33.880 --> 1:25:36.400 He's getting a little bit of Hollywood. Now, do you 1:25:36.560 --> 1:25:42.160 think that Joe Burrow might indeed welcome a trade to 1:25:42.360 --> 1:25:43.200 New York City? 1:25:43.439 --> 1:25:48.000 The Bright Light, the Rano Jason. You might recall that 1:25:48.200 --> 1:25:53.680 Joe Namath Poe's nude supposedly for some point of Playgirl magazine, 1:25:54.200 --> 1:25:57.639 and Joe Burrow is want to dress on the runway 1:25:57.720 --> 1:25:59.200 in New York? Or what's that parrot? 1:25:59.240 --> 1:25:59.559 Harris? 1:26:01.040 --> 1:26:04.080 Was that Paris? To me, that wasn't a good look. 1:26:07.360 --> 1:26:09.360 Joe Burrow in a dress. I'm thinking, Joe, what are 1:26:09.400 --> 1:26:11.599 you doing? Man? You're from your life from Athens, Ohio? 1:26:11.720 --> 1:26:14.040 For God's sakes, what are you doing? But but Joe 1:26:14.200 --> 1:26:18.080 Namath was shall we say, uh i advan guard when 1:26:18.120 --> 1:26:21.360 it came to not wearing clothes getting pictures taken. I 1:26:21.439 --> 1:26:23.920 think that was a perfume commercial of one type or another, 1:26:24.000 --> 1:26:26.840 male cologne or whatever. And I'm thinking, look, you know, 1:26:27.000 --> 1:26:30.200 New York at the capital of the world. Yeah, I'm thinking, 1:26:30.640 --> 1:26:32.840 what are we doing? All I want to do is 1:26:32.920 --> 1:26:35.000 win some football games and get the glory of his 1:26:35.120 --> 1:26:38.760 first two seasons back. But you know, we got the toe, 1:26:38.920 --> 1:26:41.040 we got the calf, we got the knee, you got 1:26:41.080 --> 1:26:43.920 the appendix, you got the wrists, you got the wrist 1:26:44.000 --> 1:26:45.680 and the appendix, and you got the toe and the 1:26:45.760 --> 1:26:49.800 knee and the calf. And I'm thinking this doesn't look 1:26:50.280 --> 1:26:53.080 this is not good. But I'm watching Channel ninth. Got 1:26:53.120 --> 1:26:57.360 him throwing balls. I'm thinking, well, maybe maybe maybe for 1:26:57.520 --> 1:26:58.280 New England at. 1:26:58.240 --> 1:27:02.360 Home he can throw, But man, I'll tell you what 1:27:03.200 --> 1:27:06.240 if and well, if Rocky were he can speak to it, 1:27:06.320 --> 1:27:08.200 and I think I can speak for Rogan. This one 1:27:08.320 --> 1:27:10.760 is kind of a no brainer. If guys know that 1:27:10.880 --> 1:27:14.360 he's at least bit hobbled with a toe injury, they're 1:27:14.400 --> 1:27:16.920 going to come after him like the fifth cavalry Man. 1:27:17.360 --> 1:27:19.799 Blitz bl it'll. 1:27:21.479 --> 1:27:25.160 And if one thing we've learned, you're plugging one Joe 1:27:25.360 --> 1:27:29.120 for another Joe, it's kind of the same. I'm thinking, Okay, 1:27:29.520 --> 1:27:33.160 the offense, I think fighting officially Flacco through for four 1:27:33.240 --> 1:27:37.240 hundred and seventy five yards. Could Burrow have done any better? 1:27:37.920 --> 1:27:41.639 I don't think so. The problem is giving up one 1:27:41.720 --> 1:27:45.160 thousand and fifty yards on defense in the last two games. Now, 1:27:45.240 --> 1:27:48.400 there's the problem, Sherlock. That's what you gotta fix, not 1:27:48.560 --> 1:27:52.040 the offense. Even the running game has gotten so much better, 1:27:52.080 --> 1:27:54.960 and money Mack is not issue any more bad checks. 1:27:55.320 --> 1:27:59.240 Money Max is kicking the ball through the upright. We've 1:27:59.280 --> 1:28:02.439 got the offense. It's going for fifty points a game, 1:28:02.760 --> 1:28:03.840 and I still can't win. 1:28:07.040 --> 1:28:11.879 Listen. I mean, it's been it's been, It's been discussed widely, 1:28:11.960 --> 1:28:15.800 and it's been bitched about widely. Them losing that Jets game. 1:28:16.320 --> 1:28:19.280 Come on, man, that was not only icing on the cake, 1:28:19.520 --> 1:28:22.320 that was lighting the candle on the birthday kick right there, 1:28:23.640 --> 1:28:24.280 blowing it out. 1:28:24.479 --> 1:28:28.640 That's just no. And now the next five games are 1:28:28.960 --> 1:28:31.880 shall we say, difficult, and Baltimore looks to be real. 1:28:32.320 --> 1:28:35.920 Pittsburgh is new England came out of nowhere. Jason, are 1:28:35.960 --> 1:28:37.080 they the best team in the AFC? 1:28:38.360 --> 1:28:40.360 I don't know, Colts. The Colts are pretty good, and 1:28:40.479 --> 1:28:43.920 I don't count Baltimore out. Baltimore might ultimately be the 1:28:44.000 --> 1:28:47.479 best team in the AFC. Their defense is a little 1:28:47.479 --> 1:28:50.600 bit concerning, but Lamar's back. They've won three in a row. 1:28:51.120 --> 1:28:54.080 How did Colts defense get so good? With the Bengals 1:28:54.160 --> 1:28:55.880 cast off defensive coordinating. 1:28:56.840 --> 1:28:59.320 The Bengals fired this guy, see he must not be 1:28:59.600 --> 1:28:59.920 very good. 1:29:00.760 --> 1:29:04.320 Gets fired. Oh he goes to Colts and just kick. 1:29:04.200 --> 1:29:06.559 The ass all over the middle of the ass. 1:29:07.760 --> 1:29:11.800 Mister ass. We got this guy from Notre Dame who's 1:29:11.880 --> 1:29:15.400 not golden. And I'm thinking, Okay, maybe it's not the coach, 1:29:15.520 --> 1:29:19.439 Maybe it's the players. Just possibly it's the person maybe 1:29:19.720 --> 1:29:23.320 like the players. Maybe I don't know. Maybe, but he 1:29:23.400 --> 1:29:26.000 did he did take Borrow and Chase, So please give 1:29:26.080 --> 1:29:27.120 Tobin some credit, will you. 1:29:27.320 --> 1:29:30.800 Well, when we were talking to football earlier, he did 1:29:30.920 --> 1:29:33.680 see he was talking about old school coaches and how 1:29:33.760 --> 1:29:37.640 the Bengals do not have that. Zach Taylor's is a 1:29:37.840 --> 1:29:41.040 fine as a very fine man, good family man. Seems 1:29:41.120 --> 1:29:44.280 to the players seem to like him, but everyone he 1:29:44.439 --> 1:29:46.920 was he was calling back the days of Forrest Greg. 1:29:47.600 --> 1:29:49.840 Not only did the players like him, but they were 1:29:49.960 --> 1:29:51.599 scared to death of that man. 1:29:52.960 --> 1:29:54.639 He would look at you, so I remember, I remember 1:29:54.760 --> 1:29:57.280 lapping mothers used to say that in a practice laugh 1:29:57.360 --> 1:30:00.400 and lost the tooth or two and uh Greg, Greg 1:30:00.439 --> 1:30:02.040 picked it up, put it in his pocket and said, 1:30:02.040 --> 1:30:08.040 we'll deal with this when the season ends. Well, okay, 1:30:08.720 --> 1:30:10.880 when the season's over, will give you back your tooth. 1:30:11.320 --> 1:30:15.120 But now, I mean the head coach in Detroit, what's 1:30:15.160 --> 1:30:18.160 his name, is a Campbell or something that guys old school. 1:30:18.800 --> 1:30:21.400 The rest of it is all people like you know, 1:30:21.800 --> 1:30:25.479 the Rams and and the Bengals, and you know Mike Tomlin. 1:30:25.760 --> 1:30:27.560 They got to they got a search party out for 1:30:27.720 --> 1:30:31.080 Mike Tomlin in Pittsburgh. He doesn't win to go far 1:30:31.240 --> 1:30:34.519 enough from the playoffs. Hell, it's me the third year 1:30:34.520 --> 1:30:36.320 in there. We missed the playoffs. But you know, the 1:30:36.400 --> 1:30:39.280 old school coaches are done. The players won't play for him. 1:30:39.439 --> 1:30:41.920 All right with the With that, Willie, maybe it's time 1:30:41.960 --> 1:30:44.840 for you to get out your Fedora and head out 1:30:44.880 --> 1:30:47.519 there to the field, put on your old check sports coat, 1:30:47.960 --> 1:30:49.320 and coach a little football. 1:30:51.200 --> 1:30:53.080 One thing in my life I've not done is coach 1:30:53.080 --> 1:30:55.360 will played football. And thank god I still have a life. 1:30:55.400 --> 1:30:56.080 And I got knees. 1:30:56.439 --> 1:30:59.000 Thank god I didn't do that, Willie. Thanks so much, 1:31:00.040 --> 1:31:01.440 odd blessed American. 1:31:01.080 --> 1:31:05.080 Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, Bye bye there go. 1:31:06.280 --> 1:31:06.400 Uh. 1:31:07.600 --> 1:31:10.680 But that's that's funny. Him sitting there watching TV, analyzing 1:31:10.800 --> 1:31:11.840 every possible thing. 1:31:11.800 --> 1:31:12.160 That he had. 1:31:12.479 --> 1:31:14.280 I can just see it's all he does. Like a 1:31:14.800 --> 1:31:17.560 plays golf and watches TV like a crazy like a 1:31:17.680 --> 1:31:22.840 crazy man, sitting there with about five five TVs, sitting 1:31:22.880 --> 1:31:25.840 there just in his you know, kickback in his lounge chair, 1:31:26.800 --> 1:31:33.559 drinking energy drinks, screaming at the TV. Good times, man, 1:31:34.880 --> 1:31:38.120 very good times. Coming up. You're going to be talking 1:31:38.200 --> 1:31:41.160 to Alex Stone from ABC after the news here at 1:31:41.160 --> 1:31:44.519 the bottom of the hour, and tomorrow Rock will be 1:31:44.640 --> 1:31:48.120 back with us and we will have your friend Jason 1:31:48.200 --> 1:31:51.320 Hoffin doing a little sports picking. You might have to 1:31:51.400 --> 1:31:53.000 join us on that one time and do a little 1:31:53.280 --> 1:31:56.320 guest picking or something. All right, that'd be fun. I 1:31:56.360 --> 1:31:58.320 could I could help with that. I do a little 1:31:58.360 --> 1:31:59.439 pick and pool every week. 1:31:59.520 --> 1:31:59.840 All right? 1:32:00.600 --> 1:32:03.920 With that, though that, let's check into traffic and weather, what's. 1:32:03.760 --> 1:32:07.240 Going on, and from the UC Health Traffic Center, you'll 1:32:07.320 --> 1:32:11.080 find more options and clinical trials for pancreatic cancer care. 1:32:11.439 --> 1:32:14.400 You see Cancer Center get a second opinion fast called 1:32:14.439 --> 1:32:18.040 five win three five eight five U SECC crash on 1:32:18.120 --> 1:32:21.639 the shoulder seventy one southbound at two seventy five. 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Mel's Auto 1:33:30.040 --> 1:33:33.160 Glass is a clear tall ride back with Eddie and 1:33:33.280 --> 1:33:37.360 Jason Williams in for Rocky Today. Just a little while longer, 1:33:37.479 --> 1:33:40.320 but before we get out of here, Jason, Now, this story, 1:33:40.479 --> 1:33:43.600 I haven't read much into it, but I saw a 1:33:43.720 --> 1:33:47.680 story on the news on TV shoot. I'm going to 1:33:47.720 --> 1:33:50.439 say it was last week sometime and I had no 1:33:50.600 --> 1:33:52.879 idea how this was going on. But here to discuss 1:33:53.080 --> 1:33:58.280 is wild Alex Stone. This missing little girl I believe 1:33:58.560 --> 1:34:03.479 started in California, right, Yeah. 1:34:03.880 --> 1:34:09.519 Yeah, so it's really nationwide now. But separately, today her mom, 1:34:09.680 --> 1:34:13.200 Ashley Buzzard, was in court because she was arrested on 1:34:13.400 --> 1:34:16.760 Friday on a unrelated charge, but it got her into 1:34:16.800 --> 1:34:20.240 custody for false imprisonment, and then she was in court 1:34:20.320 --> 1:34:24.080 today looking really different because investigators have said she typically 1:34:24.120 --> 1:34:26.800 wears wigs and makeup, and in court today didn't look 1:34:26.840 --> 1:34:29.080 like she had a wig on, a real short curly 1:34:29.200 --> 1:34:32.160 hair and no makeup. So she was brought into court 1:34:32.200 --> 1:34:34.200 and she played it not guilty to a charge of 1:34:34.320 --> 1:34:38.439 false imprisonment. And this is allegedly where she had kind 1:34:38.479 --> 1:34:42.120 of befriended this guy involving the case of her missing 1:34:42.240 --> 1:34:45.599 daughter and held him against his will and she had 1:34:45.640 --> 1:34:48.840 a box cutter last week preventing him from leaving her home, 1:34:49.040 --> 1:34:51.719 and so she was arrested. The judge today said, based 1:34:51.760 --> 1:34:54.000 off of that single charge, he's got to release her 1:34:54.080 --> 1:34:58.080 with a GPS ankle monitor on. So she was granted 1:34:58.160 --> 1:35:00.320 released today and the judge a short time to go 1:35:00.400 --> 1:35:03.400 in court in Santa Barbara County. Sand Man, you're released 1:35:03.520 --> 1:35:06.960 on supervised release. But as all of this is going 1:35:07.000 --> 1:35:10.040 on with that false imprisonment charge, the bigger story around 1:35:10.080 --> 1:35:13.240 Ashley Buzzer, it is that her daughter disappeared over a 1:35:13.360 --> 1:35:16.080 month ago, and she's not helping at all to find her, 1:35:16.200 --> 1:35:18.240 and there is no indication of where she is. So 1:35:18.800 --> 1:35:22.240 on October fourteenth, the local school district in Santa Barbara 1:35:22.280 --> 1:35:25.760 County called the Sheriff's office asking for a welfare check 1:35:25.920 --> 1:35:29.160 because nine year old Melody Buzzard had not been seen. 1:35:29.720 --> 1:35:31.720 They thought at the time, in over a year that 1:35:31.840 --> 1:35:34.479 she was allegedly being homeschooled, although there's no indication she 1:35:34.560 --> 1:35:37.960 actually was being homeschooled. She had no friends, she was 1:35:38.040 --> 1:35:41.600 not around any family members, and Melody Buzzard had not 1:35:41.840 --> 1:35:44.160 been checked in with school in over a year. So 1:35:44.280 --> 1:35:46.920 initially they thought this little girl had just disappeared a 1:35:47.040 --> 1:35:49.720 year earlier and nobody had noticed. Well, they have now 1:35:49.800 --> 1:35:53.200 figured out that on October seventh of this year that 1:35:53.400 --> 1:35:56.000 Ashley the mother, and Melody, the nine year old daughter, 1:35:56.280 --> 1:35:58.519 that they were seen on surveillance video running a car 1:35:58.720 --> 1:36:00.439 in Santa Barbara and they went on a three day 1:36:00.520 --> 1:36:03.280 road trip to Nebraska and back. On that road trip, 1:36:03.360 --> 1:36:07.040 the nine year old wore wigs. Mom did as well. 1:36:07.520 --> 1:36:09.400 She had a wig on the nine year old when 1:36:09.400 --> 1:36:12.920 they rented the car and a hoodie hood up, so 1:36:13.280 --> 1:36:16.920 it seemed like trying to hide her identity. The mom, 1:36:17.040 --> 1:36:21.200 Ashley allegedly changed the rental car's license plates from California 1:36:21.240 --> 1:36:23.360 to New York plates. They don't know where she got 1:36:23.479 --> 1:36:26.320 the New York plates and then put the California ones 1:36:26.400 --> 1:36:29.439 back on before she returned that rental car. But when 1:36:29.560 --> 1:36:32.719 she returned the rental car in Santa Barbara, Melody was gone. 1:36:32.920 --> 1:36:36.240 She disappeared on that road trip and on October fourteenth, 1:36:36.320 --> 1:36:38.599 deputies that went to the home after the school called 1:36:38.720 --> 1:36:41.920 and Raquel Zick is with the Santa Barbara County Sheriff's Office. 1:36:41.960 --> 1:36:43.160 She says deputies went to the hall. 1:36:43.320 --> 1:36:45.840 These did contact the mom at the residence, but she 1:36:46.080 --> 1:36:50.000 was unable to give us a fireball or reasonable explanation 1:36:50.200 --> 1:36:51.240 up to where Melody was. 1:36:51.439 --> 1:36:53.800 So they executed a search warrant and they have found 1:36:53.880 --> 1:36:55.920 no signs of the girl. They have since tracked down 1:36:55.960 --> 1:36:58.719 the Melody was last scene alive. They found surveillance video 1:36:58.920 --> 1:37:01.959 on that road trip from October ninth on the Colorado 1:37:02.040 --> 1:37:05.000 side of the Colorado Utah border. There is a big 1:37:05.200 --> 1:37:09.000 FBI search underway over multiple states today looking for Melody. 1:37:09.400 --> 1:37:11.759 There is no evidence she's alive. There is no evidence 1:37:11.800 --> 1:37:14.360 that she's dead, and she could be anywhere in the 1:37:14.439 --> 1:37:17.200 world at this point. If she is alive. Bill Garcia 1:37:17.280 --> 1:37:20.200 is a private investigator searching for Melody on the father's 1:37:20.240 --> 1:37:22.960 side of the family. The dad of Melody died years 1:37:22.960 --> 1:37:25.679 ago in a motorcycle accident, but the family is paying 1:37:25.760 --> 1:37:29.120 for this private investigator. He is retracing their steps right now. 1:37:29.240 --> 1:37:31.400 He's at the Colorado Utah border and he says, there's 1:37:31.439 --> 1:37:32.320 no signs of anything. 1:37:32.360 --> 1:37:36.320 I don't see any of the signs that will indicating 1:37:36.680 --> 1:37:39.479 Melody's life was taken and that she may be out 1:37:39.760 --> 1:37:41.200 anywhere near there. 1:37:41.640 --> 1:37:44.200 So this point, if she's alive, they don't know where 1:37:44.280 --> 1:37:47.880 she is. Investigators say Mom is being totally uncooperative. They 1:37:47.920 --> 1:37:49.960 have no indication of what happened to Melody on that 1:37:50.120 --> 1:37:52.960 road trip or why they were wearing wigs or switching 1:37:53.040 --> 1:37:56.840 license plates. Lily Dennis is Melody's paternal grandmother. She was 1:37:56.880 --> 1:37:59.120 at court today. She's mad. She wants answers from Ashley. 1:37:59.160 --> 1:38:01.479 I don't think big here with puncture. 1:38:01.560 --> 1:38:02.960 I don't care to put me in. 1:38:03.120 --> 1:38:07.800 Jill, but I want to know and nobody knows. So 1:38:07.880 --> 1:38:10.439 today Ashley Buzzard. She's being released from jail on that 1:38:10.560 --> 1:38:12.759 false imprisonment charge. She's gonna have to wear that GPS 1:38:12.880 --> 1:38:14.840 monitor so they'll have an idea of where she is. 1:38:15.080 --> 1:38:18.120 But she's not helping find her nine year old daughter. 1:38:18.280 --> 1:38:21.000 And by the way, the last photo, the photo that's 1:38:21.000 --> 1:38:23.840 been out there of Melody was from two years ago 1:38:23.920 --> 1:38:26.160 and she was seven years old. They don't have There 1:38:26.240 --> 1:38:28.920 is not a more updated photo of this little girl. 1:38:29.000 --> 1:38:30.920 There's the surveillance video of them running the car, but 1:38:31.000 --> 1:38:32.600 she was wearing a wig with a hoodie over it. 1:38:32.960 --> 1:38:35.959 Not a real good picture of her, the last real. 1:38:35.840 --> 1:38:36.439 Photo of her. 1:38:36.479 --> 1:38:38.280 And you know a seven year old going from seven 1:38:38.320 --> 1:38:41.120 to nine years old can change a lot. But the 1:38:41.200 --> 1:38:43.639 last photo they have of her is over two years old. 1:38:43.760 --> 1:38:45.479 Nobody had seen her between that time. 1:38:47.840 --> 1:38:54.680 Wow, my head spinning here, Alex. Is the fact that 1:38:54.840 --> 1:38:59.040 the judge and what was the case again where she 1:38:59.600 --> 1:38:59.960 has to work? 1:39:00.240 --> 1:39:07.240 Yeah, the false imprisonment they did that judge, Is he 1:39:07.360 --> 1:39:11.040 or she make her wear this ankle monitor knowing the 1:39:11.200 --> 1:39:15.280 other other side of this story, or is that illegal 1:39:15.320 --> 1:39:15.880 to even do that? 1:39:16.720 --> 1:39:16.920 Yeah? 1:39:17.080 --> 1:39:20.280 So he said today as a prosecutor said, look, you're 1:39:20.280 --> 1:39:23.080 on her she needs to remain in custody. Look at 1:39:23.080 --> 1:39:26.320 this other case where she was switching license plates and 1:39:26.360 --> 1:39:27.559 wearing wigs and the dada. 1:39:28.040 --> 1:39:28.160 You know. 1:39:28.200 --> 1:39:30.559 I hate to tell you, I can't bring that into 1:39:30.600 --> 1:39:33.200 consideration because she hasn't been charged with anything. There's no 1:39:33.320 --> 1:39:34.240 crime in that yet. 1:39:34.840 --> 1:39:34.960 Uh. 1:39:35.280 --> 1:39:37.120 And they, you know, because they don't have a body, 1:39:37.160 --> 1:39:39.080 they don't know what happened to her. You're not kidnapping 1:39:39.120 --> 1:39:41.760 your own daughter. They don't know. I mean, maybe she's 1:39:41.960 --> 1:39:45.840 alive with somebody. There's indications that she has told people 1:39:45.960 --> 1:39:48.320 that maybe she's alive in Utah and she was handed 1:39:48.360 --> 1:39:50.000 to somebody, So they don't. 1:39:49.840 --> 1:39:50.439 Know, you know. 1:39:50.600 --> 1:39:53.240 So he said, just based on the law, he's got 1:39:53.320 --> 1:39:55.920 to go on what you would do with a false 1:39:55.960 --> 1:39:58.720 imprisonment count for telling somebody they can't leave a room 1:39:59.360 --> 1:40:04.000 and can't rely on anything involving the missing girl until 1:40:04.080 --> 1:40:07.160 there's something that links her to that. So he had 1:40:07.160 --> 1:40:09.160 to go based just on the false imprisonment. But but 1:40:09.280 --> 1:40:10.200 he definitely knew about it. 1:40:10.680 --> 1:40:13.000 All right with that, Alex, we will let you go, buddy, 1:40:13.160 --> 1:40:16.439 Thanks so much. You got to thank thanks Alex. Well, 1:40:16.680 --> 1:40:19.920 I yah, and thanks Alex. That's just an awful story, man, 1:40:20.680 --> 1:40:26.040 I think of getting into talking about kids and just 1:40:27.320 --> 1:40:30.720 that I think that will pissed any normal personal But 1:40:31.280 --> 1:40:36.479 have you ever in your kids are held now nine 1:40:36.520 --> 1:40:38.880 and twelve, actually, oh my twelve year old will be 1:40:38.960 --> 1:40:42.040 thirteen here in a few days eighteen, and have you 1:40:42.240 --> 1:40:45.559 have you ever been concerned that one of your kids 1:40:46.080 --> 1:40:46.599 was lost? 1:40:48.400 --> 1:40:52.320 I don't remember specifically. I generally feel like there was 1:40:52.360 --> 1:40:56.160 maybe a time we were in a store, and I'm 1:40:56.200 --> 1:40:58.560 sure every parent out there is like, yeah, oh I 1:40:58.680 --> 1:41:03.760 had that experience, and you know, you briefly like your 1:41:03.920 --> 1:41:07.920 kids disappears and he's over in an aisle or two 1:41:08.000 --> 1:41:09.360 away looking at something. 1:41:09.520 --> 1:41:13.920 There's right, there is no worse feeling. Oh, that happened 1:41:13.960 --> 1:41:23.120 to us twice. If you're familiar with the uh actually 1:41:23.280 --> 1:41:26.240 not downtown Milford, but the Milk oh yeah, off of 1:41:26.360 --> 1:41:28.960 the Milford to seventy five off of Milford there there's 1:41:28.960 --> 1:41:32.880 a Low's and there's a target, I believe, and h 1:41:33.680 --> 1:41:35.720 and stuff that. There's a couple of things around there, 1:41:36.520 --> 1:41:38.559 but there's also an eye hop there and we used 1:41:38.560 --> 1:41:41.320 to live real close to there. Right down to seventy 1:41:41.360 --> 1:41:44.360 five is only a couple exits away. So we took 1:41:44.439 --> 1:41:46.479 our we took the boys there when they were a 1:41:46.479 --> 1:41:49.400 little I Hop got breakfast because you know, it is 1:41:49.439 --> 1:41:51.040 when you have little kids like that. And they were 1:41:51.120 --> 1:41:55.479 probably i want to say, like nine and seven something 1:41:55.560 --> 1:41:57.960 like that. Breakfast places are fun when they're yeah, kids 1:41:58.080 --> 1:42:01.439 and so, but they're also up at like, so we're there. 1:42:01.479 --> 1:42:04.240 It's a Saturday morning. I needed to go to Low's. Anyway, 1:42:04.680 --> 1:42:07.840 I was like, guys, let's go. And Deb was up 1:42:08.040 --> 1:42:10.519 and come on, we're gonna go to I Hop get 1:42:10.560 --> 1:42:13.519 a little breakfast. Daddy's gonna stop with the hardware, fingers 1:42:14.240 --> 1:42:19.080 going to eye. There you go. And it was we 1:42:19.240 --> 1:42:21.800 used we used to let him pretend they were ordering food. 1:42:21.840 --> 1:42:24.320 They would they would think they were ordering food, but 1:42:24.360 --> 1:42:26.920 they weren't. Dead would just tell the waitress, look, just 1:42:26.960 --> 1:42:29.760 give them my she would get whatever and hers. She 1:42:29.800 --> 1:42:32.320 would order a side of pancakes. Just give them those pancakes. 1:42:32.640 --> 1:42:35.760 Don't even worry about all the fruit fruit stuff they want. Okay, cool. 1:42:37.000 --> 1:42:39.000 And so we're leaving, We're going to go to if 1:42:39.040 --> 1:42:43.880 you're familiar with this area, the Low's is, it's the 1:42:43.920 --> 1:42:44.720 same parking lot. 1:42:45.200 --> 1:42:45.479 Okay. 1:42:46.840 --> 1:42:50.960 So then being little boys, they said, Dad, can we 1:42:51.400 --> 1:42:55.280 can we walk down there? And it's seven thirty eight 1:42:55.320 --> 1:42:57.360 o'clock in the morning, and somebody, yeah, if you guys 1:42:57.439 --> 1:43:00.200 just be careful. Look there's cars going everywhere around here. 1:43:00.640 --> 1:43:04.240 Just be careful. Yeah, and your mother and I are 1:43:04.240 --> 1:43:05.519 just going to get in the car and we'll meet 1:43:05.560 --> 1:43:08.760 you down there and just meet us, meet us out, 1:43:09.240 --> 1:43:12.720 I said, meet us in the front, meaning the front 1:43:12.760 --> 1:43:13.200 of the store. 1:43:13.360 --> 1:43:13.479 Right. 1:43:14.320 --> 1:43:16.360 Well, so we uh go, Deb and I are just 1:43:16.439 --> 1:43:19.439 taking our time. Just we didn't take that much time. 1:43:19.479 --> 1:43:22.559 When we get in the car, drive down there, walk 1:43:22.640 --> 1:43:25.360 up to the front of the store. No little boys there, 1:43:26.720 --> 1:43:30.639 and so we're looking around looking out in the parking lot. 1:43:30.920 --> 1:43:33.880 Obviously I'm not a a lot of cars, so we're 1:43:34.720 --> 1:43:39.360 looking everywhere a little they probably they must be inside. 1:43:39.840 --> 1:43:43.640 So we go inside. Nowhere to be seen, oh no, 1:43:44.680 --> 1:43:50.840 and uh so then we run back outside and Deb 1:43:51.080 --> 1:43:55.519 is I'm starting to freak. Deb is really freaking, and 1:43:57.439 --> 1:44:00.439 they have to be here someplace they couldn't have. And 1:44:00.520 --> 1:44:04.599 about that time, there's a white panel van driving out 1:44:04.640 --> 1:44:10.040 of the parking lot and my wife started screaming running 1:44:10.080 --> 1:44:15.920 after the white panel van, and I was like, oh now, 1:44:16.080 --> 1:44:19.920 my heart's beating ninety, you know, million times a second. 1:44:20.400 --> 1:44:23.639 And it's instant too. Oh, absolutely it is. And now 1:44:23.720 --> 1:44:28.720 I'm starting to panic, and so I run back in 1:44:29.160 --> 1:44:33.360 to ask somebody to call nine to one one. And 1:44:33.600 --> 1:44:35.680 as soon as I run back in, here come the 1:44:35.760 --> 1:44:40.519 boys walking out of They had gotten distracted by god 1:44:40.720 --> 1:44:44.320 knows a Christmas tree display or something and had wandered 1:44:44.360 --> 1:44:47.200 off to the side instead of being right there in front. 1:44:48.400 --> 1:44:52.720 And I think their mother had to go home and 1:44:52.800 --> 1:44:57.839 do a pants change because she was six severely upset, 1:45:00.400 --> 1:45:02.760 and that all that, that all happened. And I bet 1:45:02.800 --> 1:45:06.320 you couldn't have been longer than two minutes, right, seriously, 1:45:06.720 --> 1:45:10.200 but it felt like but it felt like two hours. 1:45:10.360 --> 1:45:10.559 Yeah. 1:45:10.760 --> 1:45:14.559 Yeah. And there was another time where Jack was going 1:45:14.600 --> 1:45:18.080 to meet him buddy of his at a move think 1:45:18.720 --> 1:45:22.280 whatever Batman movie. I just remember it being Batman, And 1:45:22.439 --> 1:45:25.240 we took him to that theater that's right there, the 1:45:26.000 --> 1:45:29.280 theaters to the showcase there. Yeah, and Deb dropped him 1:45:29.280 --> 1:45:32.200 off and the kids he is going to meet him 1:45:32.240 --> 1:45:34.800 in the lobby. It's like, okay, you're you're good. Here's 1:45:34.880 --> 1:45:37.200 the money to buy yourself a pop and stuff like that, 1:45:37.280 --> 1:45:40.160 blah blah blah. So he's like, I'm good, and you know, 1:45:40.200 --> 1:45:42.719 that's where he was. He was probably about twelve thirteen 1:45:42.800 --> 1:45:46.040 by then, so he was kind of so he uh, 1:45:46.840 --> 1:45:50.800 he goes in, she comes home. I said, everything cool, Yeah, 1:45:51.000 --> 1:45:55.160 he's there and Gabe is going to meet him. So 1:45:55.320 --> 1:45:58.280 he So then we get a call later on from 1:45:58.640 --> 1:46:03.640 Gabe's mom. You know, we didn't see Jack anywhere. Uh So, 1:46:05.040 --> 1:46:11.000 just long story short, Jack didn't see him anywhere, so 1:46:11.640 --> 1:46:13.840 he just walked into the movie theater by himself and 1:46:13.960 --> 1:46:17.639 started watching the movie without telling anybody. So he watched 1:46:17.640 --> 1:46:20.680 the entire movie by himself. Well, they finally step went 1:46:20.720 --> 1:46:23.519 over there and started roaming the aisles and found him 1:46:23.520 --> 1:46:25.519 sitting there, going, hey, mom, what are you doing here 1:46:27.040 --> 1:46:33.080 drinking his pop and eating his popcorn. Dude, you're gonna 1:46:33.080 --> 1:46:34.439 have to have a little chat when you get home. 1:46:35.520 --> 1:46:35.800 With that. 1:46:35.960 --> 1:46:38.920 With that thought in mind, we check in with traffic 1:46:39.000 --> 1:46:40.120 and weather. What's going on.