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Speaker 1: So, Dwayne, what do we owe this to? Is it AI?

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Speaker 1: But I pretty much agree with everything you say there

439
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Speaker 1: any because sports fans are if nothing else, reactionary. You know,

440
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Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year, it was you know,

441
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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow was Joe Montana, Joe Namath and uh Y

442
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Speaker 1: a tittle all rolled into one, and Zach Taylor was

443
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Speaker 1: Paul Brown meets Mike, you know, meets with the with

444
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Speaker 1: the Zimmer Brothers and Mike Tomlin. And now he is

445
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Speaker 1: a bomb and they want him run out of town.

446
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Speaker 1: And Joe Burrow is injury prone now and they don't

447
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Speaker 1: care if the Bengals are here or not. That's pretty

448
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Speaker 1: much the way it isn't it.

449
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Speaker 3: Well it's funny because in my mind sports is nothing

450
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Speaker 3: more than a release. And also at the hey, so

451
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 3: these rabid people, these fans, these fanatics need to have

452
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Speaker 3: a release, and obviously the Cincineti Bengals provide that release

453
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Speaker 3: for them. So without the Bengals, what would they do?

454
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Speaker 3: But more than that, I got this kind of this

455
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Speaker 3: idea to write this on Sunday because I'm saying, what

456
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Speaker 3: am I gonna do? There's no Bengal games, and I said, wow,

457
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Speaker 3: what would it be like to live in a community

458
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Speaker 3: where there's no pro football? And I have done that

459
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Speaker 3: in the past, but you know, I don't think the

460
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 3: national football there was as big then as it is now.

461
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Speaker 3: It is the number one sport in America, follow up

462
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Speaker 3: by probably college football.

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Speaker 4: No, I totally I loved your piece, Andy, and like

464
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Speaker 4: I said, glad you're backed righting on sinsini dot com.

465
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Speaker 4: And I completely agree with everything you said. Interestingly, when

466
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Speaker 4: I read it, it invoked this thought for me, and

467
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Speaker 4: it's not like you were saying this or just the

468
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Speaker 4: thought that I had, and it's you know, from covering

469
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Speaker 4: the stadium issue for all these years and seeing how

470
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Speaker 4: one sided that's been, I've always gotten the the message,

471
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 4: or you know, at least my message that I've seen

472
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Speaker 4: from the Bengals, and that approach has been just be

473
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Speaker 4: happy you have the NFL. We brought that to you

474
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Speaker 4: and you OUs and that's been again my general takeaway

475
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Speaker 4: from that. And so I think part of when I

476
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Speaker 4: was reading your piece was I'm thinking, like, yeah, like

477
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Speaker 4: that's the attitude of the Bengals, like, you know, just

478
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Speaker 4: be happy you have the NFL. Here everyone will give

479
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Speaker 4: you a little pat on the head and run along.

480
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Speaker 1: Again.

481
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Speaker 4: You weren't saying that, but that was that was one

482
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Speaker 4: of the thoughts that I had in reading your piece.

483
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Speaker 3: You know, I don't know. I sort of disagree with

484
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Speaker 3: that because I think that there's nothing more Mike Brown

485
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Speaker 3: would like to have before toolstedn't done for him is

486
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Speaker 3: to have a Super Bowl ring. I really believe that

487
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Speaker 3: I'd love to see him have it. You know, here's

488
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Speaker 3: a guy, I'll say, the kind of guy Mike Brown is.

489
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Speaker 3: He went to Dartmouth that he played football there. Yeah,

490
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Speaker 3: and he was not in the Dartmouth Football Hall of Fame.

491
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Speaker 3: So years ago I wrote a letter to Dartmouth saying

492
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Speaker 3: that he should be putting the football Hall of Fame.

493
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Speaker 3: He immediately got in touch with me and said, no, no, no, no,

494
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Speaker 3: I don't want any of that. He didn't want that.

495
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 3: You know, he's a background kind of guy. He really is.

496
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 3: And people think the fact that he doesn't come public

497
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Speaker 3: and speak to the media or talk to him is

498
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Speaker 3: because he's hiding. He's not. He's that kind of a guy.

499
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Speaker 1: He really is, right, or do you want to on

500
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Speaker 1: the other side of the coin, do you want a

501
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones? Is that what you're looking for?

502
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 3: World? Right?

503
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Speaker 1: That's know what I'm saying. Be careful what you wish for. Fan.

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Speaker 3: I'm with you on thousand percent. Look, I think the

505
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 3: Bengals want to win. I think they've had a streak

506
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Speaker 3: of bad luck, big time bad luck. And I'll tell

507
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Speaker 3: you what, here's one area which I think no one

508
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 3: has really touched on because they're pointing fingers that Joe

509
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 3: Burrow and his injury. Look, he wasn't injured last year

510
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 3: and they still lost, okay, and he was the best

511
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Speaker 3: quarterback and eons with the stats that he had. Okay,

512
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 3: so they didn't win the thing last year and he

513
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Speaker 3: played and he was healthy. Here's the problem I see.

514
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Speaker 3: And maybe I'm wrong because the next snap I take

515
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Speaker 3: in the National Football League told be my first I

516
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 3: never played for football. But the point is that I

517
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 3: think it all comes from this top, from the top,

518
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 3: and the top is a Mike Brown. The top is coach.

519
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 3: And they've never had a physical coach, a mental coach,

520
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 3: a coach that could be respected. Besides Forrest Gregg, every

521
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 3: coach that they've had has been learning on the job.

522
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 3: In the NFL with the Fangals, Zach Taylor was not

523
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 3: even a coordinator. He was a quarterbacks coach, you know,

524
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 3: and you go coach, coach, coach down the line, you know,

525
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 3: the only one maybe Marvin Lewis, who was a defensive

526
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 3: coordinator on the Super Bowl team with Baltimore. Other than that,

527
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Speaker 3: I think players need to look at a guy and

528
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Speaker 3: respect them, say he's been there, done that, and they

529
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Speaker 3: never had a coach who's been there and done that.

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Speaker 4: Another thing I really I liked in your column, Andy,

531
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Speaker 4: was you referenced Saint Louis, and that's a town that's

532
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Speaker 4: been jilted.

533
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Speaker 1: Twice Mike A Goodness.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's a similar I've always I used to

535
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Speaker 4: work in Missouri, and I've always felt like I was

536
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Speaker 4: in a little bit of a bigger, little more cosmopolitan

537
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 4: Cincinnati when i'd go to Saint Louis. So, you know,

538
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 4: Catholic Midwestern town that they definitely love baseball there.

539
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: We say we love baseball here.

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Speaker 4: I thought that was an interesting take because you know,

541
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Speaker 4: this is what the smallest outside of Green Bay, this

542
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 4: is the smallest market in the NFL. So I thought

543
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Speaker 4: your reference to that was was interesting.

544
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's funny how certain cities can support certain teams.

545
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Speaker 3: You know, I don't think Cincinnati could support an NBA team,

546
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Speaker 3: especially now. I think we're saturated with pro teams and

547
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 3: I don't think there's that many sponsors out there to

548
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 3: come forth with the checkbook the sponsors amount. Obviously, there's

549
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 3: no real good place to play. There's no arena really,

550
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 3: so I don't think they could support that or the NHL. Obviously,

551
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 3: Saint Louis cannot support pro football for whatever reason. I

552
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 3: don't know why, but they can't.

553
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, but they have the NHL there, which is yeah, uh.

554
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Speaker 3: They do at Pittsforsh's another city that I don't think

555
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 3: is support the NBA. You know, they had the Pittsburgh

556
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 3: condoors way back when in the ABA. But I don't

557
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 3: think they could support basketball. And certain people could support

558
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 3: certain cities could support certain teams. That's the way it is.

559
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Speaker 1: Well, guys, let's face it that now the NFL has

560
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Speaker 1: become the predominant franchise for any city to have. If

561
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Speaker 1: you're going to have one sport, you want to have

562
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Speaker 1: the NFL. And Jason kind of made a passing reference

563
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: to it there, and we're talking to Andy Furman with

564
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: everybody's always been talking up until recently, well, society's first

565
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Speaker 1: and foremost a baseball town. Well, I would argue that

566
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Speaker 1: that is not so true anymore. Yeah, I think that

567
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Speaker 1: I could agree.

568
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Speaker 3: I think Cincinnati's a town that's the front run of

569
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Speaker 3: town that whatever team wins, that's the town it is.

570
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 3: I mean, this thing became a Reds town. They really did,

571
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Speaker 3: because the RESU made the playoffs. At the beginning of

572
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 3: the football season, I see July August, it was football crazy,

573
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Speaker 3: not an a football town anymore.

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Speaker 1: That's an interesting you know.

575
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Speaker 4: And I wrote a call on that when you know,

576
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 4: the Reds were practically giving away tickets there that last

577
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 4: week of the season, that that almost called them Steelers

578
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 4: the Pirates series. And you had Paul Skins and the

579
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Speaker 4: Hunter Green facing off with each other and they are

580
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 4: given eight are they you know, eight dollars tickets and

581
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Speaker 4: basically giving away cheap concessions and they still couldn't come

582
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Speaker 4: anywhere near a capacity crowd, I mean thirty thousand they

583
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 4: were celebrating that. I think that you make a great

584
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Speaker 4: point there on that this is a front runner town.

585
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Speaker 4: I want to ask you this, Andy, from the moment

586
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 4: you came to town here, was it always like that? And

587
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 4: you what you started doing sports talk late in mid nineties.

588
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 3: Late late eighties, late eighties, eighty eighty, but you know,

589
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 3: I would tell you what the difference is then and now.

590
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 3: We had personalities as coaches and people loved it and

591
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 3: they were always in the news. Yeah, Bob Huggins, Pete Gillen,

592
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 3: you know there was a rivalry there, not even on

593
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 3: the off the court. Yeah, generated generated buzz right, Yeah,

594
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 3: Pete Rose, May he rest in peace. He was using

595
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 3: manager lou Panella picking up a base and tossing it

596
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 3: into the right field. You don't have personalities anymore as coaches.

597
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of the last personality as a

598
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 3: coach in this town. And Sam Wise, he's another one personality.

599
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 3: Sunday morning, he walked the streets and feed the homeless,

600
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 3: these guys who are just personalities. He wanted to know them,

601
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 3: know everything about them, and you know they were close

602
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,479
Speaker 3: to you. They really were. Right now, it's like a

603
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 3: button up coach. You know, he coaches the game and

604
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 3: he goes away. And that's the closest thing is maybe

605
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 3: Zach Taylor would give away footballs to various pubs if

606
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Speaker 3: they're a win. And he's not doing that anymore because

607
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 3: they don't.

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Speaker 1: Wind, right, But I'd love that take though. Andy talking

609
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Speaker 1: about Bigger than life coaches, your panelas and stuff like that.

610
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Speaker 1: But Jos sure, and but you brought up Forrest Greg earlier.

611
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Speaker 1: I mean talk about a guy that I don't care

612
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Speaker 1: who you were, what you thought. I don't care if

613
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: you hated the Cincinnati Bengals, if you were the biggest

614
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: Steelers fan, Browns fan, or what have you. You had

615
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: to look at that guy and go, that guy knows

616
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Speaker 1: what he's talking about exactly.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 3: I remember when Data Bible was the quarterback coach of

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Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Bengals and Boomer Size and couldn't stand them

620
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Speaker 3: because what could Data Bible teach? Boomer siacen. That's the

621
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Speaker 3: thing you have. The guy a coach is a teacher.

622
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Speaker 3: And if this guy doesn't have a track record as

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Speaker 3: what he has done, you know, a script so to speak,

624
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Speaker 3: how could Boomer Size and listen to Data Bible.

625
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Speaker 6: That's what it's all about.

626
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Speaker 3: Zach Taylor came here to learn the job on the job.

627
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Speaker 3: That's what I'm thinking, learn the job on the job.

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Speaker 3: He's a good guy. I like that. Yes, good family man,

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Speaker 3: good father, good husband. But honestly he's learning, or he

630
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 3: has learned, hopefully the job while he's been there. This

631
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 3: team was not going on the third consecutive year. Maybe

632
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Speaker 3: nothing in the playoffs that's heard of. And he's got

633
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 3: to be able to not sleep well at night after

634
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 3: the Giants fired their coach yesterday at two and eight.

635
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, really.

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Speaker 1: With that, Andrew, we will let you go, buddy. It

637
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: is our pleasure man. Thanks so much. Glad you're back,

638
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: Glad Burro, god on you keep writing.

639
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 3: You very much.

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Speaker 1: See Andy, our guest, Andy Furman. Yeah, what a good guy.

641
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: And I always loved his takes. Oh me too. When

642
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: he he pissed up. He pissed off a lot of people.

643
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Speaker 1: But that's the thing that's great. I mean, that's good.

644
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Speaker 1: Like you.

645
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Speaker 4: Yeah, makes you makes you laugh, sometimes, makes you cry,

646
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 4: pisses you off. Sometimes that's that's good.

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Speaker 1: The forecast from a seven hundred WLW weather center for tonight,

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Speaker 1: Ms IN for rock Today, Rocky Back Tomorrow. So it

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Speaker 1: was fun talking to to Andy, and you know, I

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Speaker 1: because I know you don't. I know what you're saying

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Speaker 1: as well, because that is exactly what owners want to

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Speaker 1: hear when things aren't going well, When things aren't going

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Speaker 1: well and someone defends him and says, hey, well, when

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Speaker 1: Phil Castadelini on these airwaves famously said where are you

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Speaker 1: going to go?

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Speaker 4: I'm glad you brought up because that was another thought

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Speaker 4: I had that on this whole thing.

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Speaker 1: And he wasn't wrong. He wasn't wrong, and that's what

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Speaker 1: I'm that's my point. But that is what the guys

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Speaker 1: pretty much. I mean, he just voiced it. Every one

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Speaker 4: When at the end of the day, it's actually incredibly

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Speaker 4: difficult to move a franchise in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Well, once that Browns thing screwed it up, for well,

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Speaker 1: the uh Baltimore Colt's going to Indy and then the

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Speaker 1: Brown's going to Baltimore. That made it real hard for

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Speaker 1: everybody else. I have to say, yes, very very difficult.

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Speaker 1: What do you got to bring that up?

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Speaker 4: By the way, art Modell, Yeah, I saw where Bernie

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Speaker 4: kozars in the hospital. It was on Twitter today. Kozar

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Speaker 4: has been kind of screwed up for a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Well that just makes me even more mad at Art Modell.

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Speaker 4: But well, you know, at this bench, I love Bernie

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Speaker 4: Kosar was one of my maybe my favorite athlete growing up.

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Speaker 4: Had the poster on the wall and everything back.

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Speaker 1: In the day. He gave hope the slow white cause

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Speaker 1: like myself. Uh but I say that, but look at

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Speaker 1: what happened with the Chargers leaving San Diego. Talk about

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Speaker 1: a fan base, but I think that the city pushed

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Speaker 1: Reds left Sarasota for spring training. The city pushed back

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Speaker 1: so much or on the red just said screw these

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Speaker 1: then they left. They abandoned that fan base in San Diego.

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Speaker 1: But again I think that was a San Diego city

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Speaker 1: screw up. And the whole Oakland going to Vegas thing, well, barely.

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Speaker 1: Everybody wants out of Oakland. So that's not bigcau. It's problem.

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Speaker 1: I've been through it, but never in it. I've been

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Speaker 1: to that stadium there. Yeah, I've heard it was awful.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, coming up, we're switching gears entirely and we're going

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Speaker 1: to be talking to our legal expert, Jeremy Rosenthal. Remember

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Speaker 1: last year that awful situation down in Texas with the

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Speaker 1: camp Camp Mystic that got flooded out and not a

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Speaker 1: giant loss of life, but one life is too much.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, but several kids died, some of the

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Speaker 1: counselors and whatnot. Well, now the lawsuits we started, so

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Speaker 1: we will be talking to Jeremy Rosenthal about that after

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Speaker 21: Tonight maybe the last night of the federal government shutdown.

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Speaker 21: This is the four o'clock report. I'm Matt Reeese breaking now.

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Speaker 21: We're going to find out in a few hours whether

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Speaker 1: Is going to be undone.

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Speaker 21: The US House expected to vote on a bill that

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Speaker 21: Democrat demand. No pay for essential federal workers, a cut

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Speaker 21: in food stamp benefits among the hallmarks of this shutdown.

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Speaker 21: In Claremont County fire departments there working to stock the

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Speaker 22: A lot of the families that I speak with, you know,

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Speaker 22: you know, all those items that that children like to eat.

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Speaker 1: John Cooper with Miami Township Fire and.

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Speaker 22: EMY eat today from the hours of three to seven

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Speaker 21: And let's get to the roads now your drive home.

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Speaker 7: Northbound seventy five Mitchell to Paddick is an extra ten

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Speaker 21: Fifty five degrees. This news brought to you by Alta Fiber.

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Speaker 21: Cincinnati City Council considering another early teen curfew, this one

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Speaker 21: in Coryville, near the University of Cincinnati. Council's Public Safety

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Speaker 21: Committee is okay to a nine o'clock curfew for kids

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Speaker 21: out on short vine. This is UC's police Chief Elliot Isaac.

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Speaker 24: From talking to both CPDN uc PD officers, they have

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Speaker 21: The stricter nine o'clock curfew for kids in Coreyville would

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Speaker 21: Cincinnati's Central Business district and over the Rhine in Louisville.

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Speaker 21: They've released the names of the fourteen people killed when

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Speaker 21: a ups get crashed at the airport last week. Three

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Speaker 21: people were on board the jet. The other eleven killed

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Speaker 25: So as we hear these names today, let's never forget

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Speaker 25: their lives, their laughter, their love, and all that they

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Speaker 21: Mayor of Louisville, Craig Greenberg, caused the ups crash, still

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Speaker 21: under investigation. There's an update in that hit and run

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Speaker 21: which occurred a week ago today in Sterling Township, Brown County.

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Speaker 21: The thirty year old woman who was struck on State

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Speaker 21: either a Chevy or GMC full size pickup and they're

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Speaker 18: We took a vow to commit to Rejason.

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Speaker 1: And this is I think I said earlier this was

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Speaker 1: this happened last year because it was such a horrible thing.

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Speaker 1: It seemed to me it was last year, but it

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Speaker 1: was in uh in early July. I believe it was

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Speaker 1: on the fourth that that awful flood he hit Camp

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Speaker 1: Mystic down in Texas, sad and that kind of came

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Speaker 1: out of nowhere. Obviously everybody was taken by surprise. Uh

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Speaker 1: several uh, several people that were swept away by it

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Speaker 1: and obviously perished, and some of the counselors were as well.

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Speaker 1: And now as when the stuff like this happens, the

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Speaker 1: lawsuits start, yep, and it's and they've started. Let's get

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Speaker 1: to our legal expert to discuss how this could play out.

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Speaker 1: He is our good friend, Jeremy Rosenthal. He's been on

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Speaker 1: both sides. He has won every case in the books.

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Speaker 1: This guy's undefeated, I believe in a court of law. Jeremy,

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Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 20: Uh, promotions for continuance, Yes, undefeated.

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Speaker 1: Undefeated, unscored upon, that's right, Uh.

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Speaker 20: Right, yes, yes, yes, I'm the you know, and I

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Speaker 5: We'll get your case continued for a week for you

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Speaker 1: Go, go get some money to pay your lawyer. So,

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Speaker 1: but the serious up here, Jeremy, Jeremy Rosenthal, you're You're

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Speaker 1: in the state of Texas. How do you suppose this

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Speaker 1: is likely going to play out? The lawsuits have started,

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Speaker 1: the families of some of the campers or starting lawsuits

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Speaker 1: a couple of the counselor's families as well. What do

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Speaker 1: you see happening here?

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Speaker 5: Well, you got to go where the facts are going

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Speaker 5: to take you on this.

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Speaker 20: You got twenty seven victims, extremely tragic. Everybody's gonna deal

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Speaker 20: with their grief in a different way, right and some

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Speaker 20: people are going to be really conciliatory. Some people are

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Speaker 20: going to bury their head in the sand never want

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00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 20: to deal with it again. You know, it's interesting being

868
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:02,240
Speaker 20: in Texas. I know folks in Kirk County, in Kerrville,

869
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 20: and I know local people here that that have connections,

870
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 20: and everybody's gonna deal with it differently. When when lawsuits

871
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 20: are filed, you've got to look at them and see

872
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 20: if they're any good. A lot of the allegations here

873
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 20: are saying things like, look, this camp down the road

874
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 20: managed to do fine, what was your problem?

875
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 6: You know?

876
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 20: And all these others. You know, there was a lot

877
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 20: more folks near in proximity of the rivers that got

878
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 20: it right. They had some cabins there that had previously

879
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 20: had to be evacuated. You had some policies that, if

880
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 20: you believe them, didn't make a lot of sense, and

881
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 20: there could have been some different decisions potentially. So you

882
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 20: just have to see if there's merit there, and if

883
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 20: there is, then then it gets addressed. And if you're

884
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 20: if you're bringing this lawsuit, you're doing it out of

885
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 20: anger and and and out of a hope that nothing

886
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 20: happens like this again.

887
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 5: You know that that's kind of what your mind.

888
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 3: As it is.

889
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 1: He Jeremy.

890
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 4: There's three three lawsuits or one of three lawsuits filed

891
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 4: this this week Monday, includes five campers, all of them

892
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 4: are either eight or nine years old, and two councilors

893
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,439
Speaker 4: eighteen year old and nineteen year old.

894
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 24: What what is the like?

895
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 4: What's that the crux of a lawsuit that those families are?

896
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 4: You know, what are they what kind of damages are

897
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,760
Speaker 4: they seeking? And what is it that what should have happened?

898
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: Yeah? Was it that you're negligent?

899
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 4: Like, here's here's what Here's what others have businesses or

900
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 4: camps or houses along the river do or have done

901
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 4: to prepare for this.

902
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 1: Here's what you didn't do? Is that is that basically it?

903
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 1: Or you know, what's the le what's the legal part

904
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: of this?

905
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 6: Right?

906
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 20: Essentially, when you're when you're talking about negligence, you're talking

907
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 20: about several different factors.

908
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 5: You're talking that you owe a duty to make something safe.

909
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 20: You're talking about what is reasonable and if what you

910
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,439
Speaker 20: did was really well below the standard of reasonable care,

911
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 20: and it's foreseeable, right, There's got to be an element

912
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 20: of foreseeability here. And that's the issue in this case,

913
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 20: is going to be foreseeability. How foreseeable is it that.

914
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 5: This would happen?

915
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 20: In other words, you can't really come back and say

916
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 20: this is an act of God. Therefore we're just not liable. Well,

917
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 20: you know, when you live in a if you have

918
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 20: a farm in Kansas, you know you're gonna get hit

919
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 20: by tornadoes, right, and you know to have your home

920
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 20: be equipped as best it can.

921
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 5: And you got a basement, right, So a tornado came

922
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 5: and did this to us.

923
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 20: As is, you know it can happen, and if it

924
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 20: happens despite all of your precautions, it's not your fault.

925
00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:58,720
Speaker 5: It's your destiny.

926
00:48:58,840 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 6: Right.

927
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 20: But but if you if you are if you if

928
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 20: you take all the necessary precautions, then then things ought

929
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 20: to be fine. And when it comes to children like that,

930
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 20: you know, you really again, nobody's gonna let you off

931
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 20: the hook for owing this duty and and and no

932
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 20: amount of tears is going to wipe away that liability

933
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:23,479
Speaker 20: if it's there.

934
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: Right, we're talking to Jeremy Rosenthal, And Jeremy, you just

935
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: brought up I think the key point in all this

936
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: talking about kids, and not just kids eight nine year

937
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: olds stuff like that, children who can't defend them for

938
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: themselves in the least. Really and uh, that would seem

939
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 1: to be a real coffin nail for for this case,

940
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: as far as can't miss it goes your thoughts on that.

941
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 5: Very you can very well be right.

942
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 20: Some of the policies essentially said that the parents or

943
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 20: excuse me, rather that the counselors didn't have the independent

944
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 20: authority to evacuate that they had to get a signal

945
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 20: from somebody else or or permission from somebody else and

946
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 20: so and in some instances, my understanding is that was

947
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 20: ignored and in some instances, right, you know, something is

948
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 20: clearly not right with the situation and clearly dangerous about

949
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 20: the situation, yet you're sitting there just sort of waiting

950
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 20: for it to uh you know, you're you're sitting there

951
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 20: as as all of your options are suddenly.

952
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 5: Very quickly going away.

953
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 20: Also that one of the one of the lawsuits claims

954
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 20: that the guy, the the main camp guy who ultimately

955
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 20: died himself an hour two hours ahead of time, was

956
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 20: when when all the flood warnings came out, started securing

957
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 20: all the property, uh, all the equipment on the on

958
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 20: the premises and and not not you know, getting the

959
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:52,479
Speaker 20: kids to higher ground. So that's certainly a difficult fact.

960
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 20: So you get a lot of stuff like that to

961
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 20: to to kind of go through, uh to to sort

962
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 20: of figure out. But yeah, you know the fact that

963
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 20: their kids, the fact that they can't fend for themselves. Look,

964
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 20: it's great ambiance to have a cabin right there at

965
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 20: the bend of a river. But but when you've had

966
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 20: to evacuate the thing before and you're in a place

967
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 20: that they call flood alley, you just gotta gotta be

968
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 20: smarter than that, you know.

969
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 5: And it's it looks for the grace of God, go

970
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 5: I it's easy for.

971
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 20: Me to Monday morning quarterback this thing, Uh and you know,

972
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 20: certainly in the face of tragedy, that's.

973
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 5: Not what we want to do.

974
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 20: But again, we'll see if we'll see if the suit

975
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 20: has legs, and we'll see if any of the things

976
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 20: that they're saying have merit.

977
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 4: Right like flood alley, yes, but never a flood of

978
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 4: this nature where it just came so rapidly like right

979
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 4: like that?

980
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 1: Correct?

981
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 3: Is that.

982
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 4: Is that there's ever been a flood like this before

983
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 4: in terms of how fast it came on that that's

984
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 4: part of your defense, all right, is the act of

985
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 4: is that does that fall in the act of God?

986
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 6: Well?

987
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 20: And and that's a great point. So the act of

988
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 20: God really has it has dual importance here. First is

989
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 20: that if you're defending the case, that's that's how you're

990
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 20: defending it, right, you're saying that this is an act

991
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 20: of God. The second issue is that if there's insurance

992
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 20: money here that you're trying to get through this lawsuit,

993
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 20: you know, you I don't know whether or not the

994
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 20: insurance company can try to wiggle out by saying this

995
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 20: was an act of God, and we're not.

996
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 5: We're not liable for for acts of God. So so

997
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 5: it you know that part of it is.

998
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 20: That that part of it is is certainly an element

999
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 20: of this of this equation, you know, and again, uh,

1000
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 20: part of it to think about. This is an interesting

1001
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 20: fact which I don't know how much this is going

1002
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 20: to really weigh into all this, But the director died also,

1003
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 20: you know, one of the guys who they're blaming for

1004
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 20: a lot of the negligence and a lot of the

1005
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 20: things that were overlooked and done incorrectly. He passed, He died,

1006
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,959
Speaker 20: you know, So it's real hard to blame that guy

1007
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 20: who who kind of gave his life. Uh maybe you know,

1008
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 20: maybe maybe some of his fault caused his own you know,

1009
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 20: his own death. But it's real hard to blame somebody

1010
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 20: who you know, the guy who went down with the Titanic, right, yeah.

1011
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, well perfect example with the with that, Jeremy, we

1012
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: will let you go, buddy. It is always our pleasure.

1013
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:29,399
Speaker 1: Thank you so much.

1014
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 6: All right, you got it.

1015
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: Thank you, take care of buddy. Are a good friend

1016
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: to Jeremy Rosenthal. I like, I like when you guys

1017
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: have him. He's he's really good and he knows what

1018
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: he's talking about for sure. But something that I uh

1019
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: was thinking about there because he brought up that they're

1020
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: somebody was would have said made the call to tell

1021
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: these people to get the hell out of there? Well,

1022
00:53:56,760 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: what would have had what happened? If I don't and

1023
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: it's all come out in the wash, I reckon. But

1024
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 1: if somebody did call one of the eighteen nineteen year

1025
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: old girls that were there mining these kids and said, look,

1026
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: you need to get out of there, and the girls

1027
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: either freaked out and said no, We're going to stay put.

1028
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 1: Now talk about muddy in the water that I'm not

1029
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: saying that. I'm just saying there were so many probabilities

1030
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: and possibilities here that God, this was going to go

1031
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: on for a little bit man, And then you know,

1032
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 1: like like some people who could provide answers potentially aren't

1033
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 1: with us anymore. Going Yeah, with that, we check in

1034
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: with traffic and weather, what is going on, what's going on.

1035
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 7: From the UC Health Traffic Center. And you're going to

1036
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 7: find more options in clinical trials for pancreatic cancer care

1037
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,360
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1038
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 7: fast call five one three, five eight five u SEEC

1039
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 7: see two seventy five southbound after killby broad accident takes

1040
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 7: up the right Lane Cruise are on the scene getting

1041
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,879
Speaker 7: this taken care of that broken down. Semi seventy five

1042
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 7: southbound between twelfth Streena, Kyle'son and Kentucky. It's about a

1043
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 7: fifteen minute delay. Now through the area, we're seeing heavier

1044
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 7: pockets of traffic. Two seventy five it's the Carrol Cropper Bridge.

1045
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,760
Speaker 7: Westbound delays go back to the Petersburg exit in Kentucky

1046
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 7: and southbound we're going back to you West fifty in Indiana.

1047
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 7: Seventy five southbound bron Oregan Highway to Norwood Lateral or

1048
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 7: work here haslo downs back to Sheppard about a ten

1049
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 7: minute delay. It is about a ten minute trip seventy

1050
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 7: one southbound MLK to the Brent Spence my Rick Shrempande's

1051
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,600
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1052
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,160
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1053
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1054
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1055
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1056
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1057
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 10: Luckness Monster, but beat it in chess.

1058
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1059
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1060
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:02,000
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1061
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,080
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1062
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1063
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1064
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1065
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1066
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Speaker 1: Rocky Today. Rock is doing the RedHawks game today in Oxford.

1074
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: Now this is this is big for the big guy

1075
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 1: because usually he's on a plane someplace, which I'm sure

1076
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,359
Speaker 1: he's appy. He's not flying anywhere right now. Oh yeah,

1077
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:03,760
Speaker 1: And it's in Oxford, so that's literally I think twenty

1078
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: minutes from his house maybe something like that. He lives

1079
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 1: out in Harrison, Yeah yeah, yeah, so he can just

1080
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 1: sweep right over there, little back roads. I don't know

1081
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,919
Speaker 1: what the roads are from there to Oxford, but well,

1082
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: he'll probably go out there and see if he can

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Speaker 1: see the Oxford lights again. Have you heard him talk

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Speaker 1: about that story, the so called Oxford Lights with the

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Speaker 1: ghost motorcycle, right, Yes, coming home from the war to Yes.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if he gets his head chopped

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Speaker 1: off and there was an hook in the door. Hell,

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Speaker 1: I forget all the all the gory details, but yeah.

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Speaker 4: I should he should be home midnight whatever, get some

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Speaker 4: good rest, back on the Eddie and Rocky Show tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Boom, and then head out a get on Friday, four

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Speaker 1: points unknown. So coming up next, we're going to be

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Speaker 1: talking to our good friend, doctor Bruce Herman, and we

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Speaker 1: haven't had him on in a bit because he's been

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Speaker 1: on IR. We try to get him a couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks ago, and I get a text back from his

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Speaker 1: wife saying, Oh, Bruce is sorry that he can't be

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Speaker 1: on the show. He's in the hospital right now. I

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Speaker 1: think he sounds like he has bore important stuff to

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Speaker 1: worry about than me, and uh, nice for her to

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Speaker 1: get back with you. Well, it turns out that I've

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Speaker 1: been in contact with him. Case in point, we're going

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Speaker 1: to have him after the news. But he was passing

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Speaker 1: a kidney stone and from everything I've heard, that is

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Speaker 1: just awful. My wife had one of those last year,

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Speaker 1: middle of the night. She had to go to the er.

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Speaker 1: It was brutal. That's kind of I think that's kind

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Speaker 1: of what happened to him. Had kind of came out

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Speaker 1: of nowhere and get me to the hospital and they

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Speaker 1: didn't take him long to figure out exactly what she

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Speaker 1: thought her pennix burst, right, Yeah, that's what it was. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I remember like, yeah, she was in that would seem

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Speaker 1: to come from the same area. I don't know experienced it,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, that a'll make sense. We will be talking

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Speaker 1: to doctor Herman, but that's after the news. Right now,

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Speaker 1: News Radio seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 10: News Traffic and Weather. News Radio seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati.

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Speaker 11: The House is back the last Turtles, reopening the government

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Speaker 11: with the four point thirty report. I'm Sean Gallagher breaking

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Speaker 11: down a vote expected tonight in the House on a

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Speaker 11: spending bill that cleared the Senate earlier this week, when

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Speaker 11: eight Democrats flit voting alongside all Republicans. That deal does

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Speaker 11: not does not include an extension of Affordable Care Act

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Speaker 11: tax credits with only a vote promise on the matter

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Speaker 11: in the future. If those tax credits are not extended,

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Speaker 11: around twenty million Americans who receive health care from the

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Speaker 11: ACA will see premium skyrocket next year. If the House

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Speaker 11: passes the bill, it would end the longest government shut

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Speaker 11: down in US history.

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Speaker 27: The White House, as President Trump intends to sign the

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Speaker 27: government funding bill as soon as possible after it passes.

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Speaker 27: Press Secretary Caroline Levitt told reporters they expect that will

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Speaker 27: be tonight and the President could sign the legislation during

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Speaker 27: dinner with Wall Street CEOs.

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Speaker 28: Here at the White House, our troops, air traffic controllers,

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Speaker 28: and federal employees will be back to receiving their regular paychecks,

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Speaker 28: Families in need will get back to receiving their food

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Speaker 28: purchasing assistance, and the People's government will soon be back

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Speaker 28: open for business.

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Speaker 12: Karen Travers ABC News The White House now the latest

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Speaker 12: traffic in weather.

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Speaker 7: Together from the UC Health Traffic Center, you'll find more

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Speaker 7: options and clinical trials for pancreatic cancer care at the

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Speaker 7: five one three five eight five U see see See

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Speaker 7: Watching delays onto seventy five southbound after Kilby with the

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Speaker 7: crasher blocking the right lane and police are on the scene.

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Speaker 7: Southbound seventy five Twelfth Street to Kyle's Lane in Kentucky

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Speaker 7: affected by that broken down semi right lane blocked and

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Speaker 7: about a fifteen minute delay here now. On seventy five

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Speaker 7: we're selling southbound Baalbagan Highway to no lateral and from

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Speaker 7: the viaduct down to the Brent Spence Bridge northbound seventy

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Speaker 7: five Mitchell to Paddock is about a twelve minute trip

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Speaker 7: now and we have heavier pockets of traffic. Two seventy

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Speaker 7: five at the Kentucky Indiana state line with a walk

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Speaker 7: on the Carrol Cropper Bridge west bound delays back to

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Speaker 7: the Petersburg exit, southbound back to US fifty and on

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Speaker 7: seventy one southbound MLK to the Brent Spence by a

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Speaker 7: ten minute trip. I'm Rich shremp news Radio seven hundred WW.

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Speaker 10: Ladies forecast from the Train Heating and Cooling Weather Center

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Speaker 10: on news Radio seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 8: The sky is staying mostly clear overnight as we dropped

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Speaker 8: to thirty four for your Thursday morning tomorrow afternoon. We

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Speaker 8: keep that sunshine. Heis near fifty seven Friday. We start

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Speaker 8: near thirty seven the afternoon, a few more clouds with

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Speaker 8: just a small chance of rain and a high in

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Speaker 8: your fifty nine from your severe weather station. I'm nine

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Speaker 8: first warning meter Religious Mark Stitz News Radio, seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 11: Sunny and currently fifty six degrees. All fourteen people killed

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Speaker 11: in the ups plane crash and explosion at Louisville Muhammad

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Speaker 11: Ali International Airport last week have been identified by the

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Speaker 11: Jefferson County Corner.

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Speaker 25: Each of these victims represents a life full of purpose,

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Speaker 25: interrupted far too soon, and also a life that will

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Speaker 25: never fade because we will always remember them.

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Speaker 11: Louisville MARYCRAIGT. Greenberg. Three crew members aboard the plane. Among

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Speaker 11: the victims. Those lost range in age from three to

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Speaker 11: two sixty five. ODAD says it's teaming up with local

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Speaker 11: law enforcement as well as the cities of Monroe and

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Speaker 11: Sycamore Township to reduce traffic congestion around Cincinnati Premium Outlets

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Speaker 11: and Kimwood Town Center on Black Friday, with management from

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Speaker 11: both malls also involved in that planning. This includes adjusting

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Speaker 11: traffic signals to maximize timing during peak times and improve

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Speaker 11: traffic flow, increasing law enforcement presence to alert motorists of

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Speaker 11: backups on Interstate seventy five and seventy one, and quickly

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Speaker 11: respond to incidents. The plan also calls for designated lane

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Speaker 11: assignments and access points to reduce bottlenecks and have temporary

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Speaker 11: signage and message boards alert motorists of increased traffic while

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Speaker 11: providing alternate routes in any other traffic advisories.

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Speaker 15: Seven hundred WLW Sports.

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Speaker 16: Bengals on the practice field today getting ready for Sunday's

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Speaker 16: AFC North Battle at Pittsburgh College Football. Tonight, Toledo takes

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Speaker 16: on the Miami RedHawks and Oxford's Jeger Stadium at seven

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Speaker 16: College Basketball Tonight NKU at East Tennessee State six thirty

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Speaker 16: on Fox Sports thirteen sixty Reds Update. Get the latest

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Speaker 16: on the Reds to night in the Hot Stove League

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Speaker 16: at six here on seven hundred WLW. Their special guest

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Speaker 16: will be Andrew Abbott e COCHL Hockey. Today, Toledo got

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Speaker 16: by the Cyclones three to two. Bill Dennison seven hundred

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Speaker 16: WLW Sports.

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Speaker 11: Final numbers on Wall Street Today, The doll Gating three

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Speaker 11: hundred and twenty seven points, Nastac down sixty two. The

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Speaker 11: S and P of four are an except it is

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Speaker 11: at five o'clock. I'm Sean Gaalbagher News Radio seven hundred W.

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Speaker 10: Well Experience the Arts live in Oxford this November at

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Speaker 10: Miami University with music, Mutz and Murder Celebrate the Power

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Speaker 10: of Song The Men Glee Club Concert November seven.

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Speaker 1: And Jay Sweet go to our guests now, and it's

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Speaker 1: good to have him back. He is our good friend.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Bruce Herman, board certified plastic surgeon. He hosts the

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Speaker 1: weekly show Nip Talk. He has been on this show

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Speaker 1: multiple times. Always love having doctor Bruce Herman. Doc, welcome back, Hey,

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Speaker 1: thanks for having me.

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Speaker 12: First.

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Speaker 1: Rocky Today is Bigation. He is uh no, Actually he

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Speaker 1: does football games for ESPN. So he's doing a football Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's doing a football game tonight. Oh all right, but

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Speaker 1: you can trust Jason over here. He's all right. I

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Speaker 1: got a lot of tough leading questions for you, Doc, Right, Nay,

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Speaker 1: he's a really good question. He's a reporter. So Die,

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Speaker 1: let's well let's talk. First off, we were talking a

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Speaker 1: little bit about it a little while ago. You've been

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Speaker 1: on I r uh would turn out to be kidney

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Speaker 1: stones is hourly because I where we're worried about it.

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Speaker 1: I told them to I was still at Jason. I

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Speaker 1: don't think I said it on the air, but you know,

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Speaker 1: you and I always text, and I text you to

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Speaker 1: be on and I hadn't heard from me or uh right,

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Speaker 1: and then I get a text back from your wife.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what was going on.

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Speaker 29: Yeah, man, you just caught me. Uh yeah, at a

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Speaker 29: pretty bad time. So I had a kidney stone. Man,

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Speaker 29: welcome to middle age. I guess start things start falling apart.

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Speaker 29: And uh man, I don't know if you ever had

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Speaker 29: a kidney stone, but I highly do not recommend getting

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Speaker 29: one because it is very painful.

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Speaker 1: And uh yeah, I did miss work.

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Speaker 29: I never miss work, and it kind of freaked out

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Speaker 29: my wife because like I would barely even go to

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Speaker 29: the doctor. And I woke up and I was like, Dan,

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Speaker 29: it's like I needed to go to the hospital like

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Speaker 29: right now. Of course like that, since my wife it's

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Speaker 29: like a panic because he's not used to hearing me

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Speaker 29: say stuff like that. But yeah, anyway, so too a

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Speaker 29: couple of weeks to get over that.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I was a real bummer.

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Speaker 29: But yeah, sorry I missed you guys a couple weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: No, everything I've ever heard about it, doc is that

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Speaker 1: that's just a hor horrible experience. Yeah, yeah, I do

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Speaker 1: not recommend thumbs down. Well, let's uh, let's talk about

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Speaker 1: what we're here to talk about. Millennials almost matching a

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Speaker 1: gen Z shot for a shot with botox, what they're

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Speaker 1: calling baby botox, and it's not given a two year

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Speaker 1: old botox. Don't think that, Yeah, but young people doing essentially,

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Speaker 1: doc Herman, the is it? It's prevented. They're considering it preventative. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: prevented botox. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I talk about this all the time.

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Speaker 1: And you know, you may be surprised.

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Speaker 29: When I say what age I think people should start botox.

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Speaker 29: I bet it'll be a little earlier than you think.

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Speaker 29: I believe around thirty is a good time. And the

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Speaker 29: reason I used that age group is because in our

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Speaker 29: thirties is when the lines that we have on our

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Speaker 29: forehead and around our eyes and between our eyebrows start

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Speaker 29: to get permanently etched in from just repetitive motion, repetitive

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Speaker 29: motion over the decades, and so if you start using

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Speaker 29: botox before those lines start setting in, you'll never get them.

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Speaker 29: And I always use my wife as an example. She

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Speaker 29: probably hates this, but you know, she did that exact thing.

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Speaker 29: She started using botox right about the time that I

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Speaker 29: got into plastic surgery. And now she's fifty years old,

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Speaker 29: and she doesn't have any wrinkles, and it looks, you know,

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Speaker 29: very natural.

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Speaker 1: It's not like a fake look.

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Speaker 29: It's just that the wrinkles that she would normally have

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Speaker 29: at this age, just from using those muscles for frowning

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Speaker 29: and raising your eyebrows and smiling around your eyes, have

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Speaker 29: never formed. And so, you know, I think getting that

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Speaker 29: twenty is a little bit aggressive, honestly. I mean, it

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Speaker 29: would stop the passive lines. But I think people look

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Speaker 29: so young at twenty anyway, I'm not sure they're gaining

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Speaker 29: a whole lot.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, ask me.

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Speaker 29: I mean, I think thirty is a reasonable age or

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Speaker 29: even a little bit later.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 29: And I've always said this, I do honestly believe, and

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Speaker 29: I and I don't make hardly any money from doing botox,

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Speaker 29: but I do honestly believe that botox is one of

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Speaker 29: the lowest hanging fruits that you can do if you

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Speaker 29: want to look young into your middle years.

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Speaker 1: We're talking to doctor Bruce Herman and the doc to

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Speaker 1: use your well, you use your poor wife as an

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Speaker 1: example again, but what you're sorry you were saying, she's

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Speaker 1: you know, she's fifty, but you know it doesn't have

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Speaker 1: the wrinkles and stuff and it looks natural. Is that

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Speaker 1: the reason why so many of the Hollywood people we

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Speaker 1: see they wait until they are fifty and get botox

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Speaker 1: or plastic surgery, and so it's so noticeable as opposed

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Speaker 1: to just like never really taking over the course of time.

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Speaker 29: Yeah, it really when you when you talk about people

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Speaker 29: looking unnaturally, it does kind of depend on what treatment

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Speaker 29: you're talking about. I mean, you can definitely look unnatural

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Speaker 29: botox if it's overdone.

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Speaker 1: And you have like zero expression, and so.

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Speaker 29: Really good boatoks will eliminate the wrinkles but still leave

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Speaker 29: you normal facial expressions, and there's definitely an artistry to it,

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Speaker 29: which means, you know, if you're a consumer out there

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Speaker 29: wanting to get botox, you got to find somebody that's

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Speaker 29: good and just like finding a good hairstylist.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes that can be a challenge.

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Speaker 29: But you know, a lot of the Hollywood celebrities look overdone,

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Speaker 29: mostly due to fillers. I mean, there's just such a

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Speaker 29: fine line with fillers between looking good and looking natural

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Speaker 29: and oops, now I look like an alien like Madonna

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Speaker 29: did back a few years ago.

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Speaker 1: Uh so, you know, I mean, I'm a I'm a

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Speaker 1: poor live hope. She never listened to show. She does

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Speaker 1: use a few fillers, but of course, you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: the one doing them.

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Speaker 29: And I guarantee you no one would think that she'd

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Speaker 29: ever had fillers, Like, no one, because they're done properly.

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Speaker 1: They're very subtle.

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Speaker 29: They you know, fix some of the normal kind of

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Speaker 29: fault to the face that you get as you, you know,

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Speaker 29: get into your forties and fifties, but you don't go

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Speaker 29: past that point where it starts to be noticeable.

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Speaker 3: So I think.

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Speaker 29: Celebrities oftentimes get a little bit and they look better

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Speaker 29: and they're like more more or more right, and then suddenly,

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Speaker 29: you know, like.

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Speaker 1: You look like a completely different person.

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Speaker 29: So yeah, they really need to like come have me

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Speaker 29: be their personal like you know, uh, you know, advisors going.

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Speaker 3: To like ghet the stop button.

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Speaker 1: I think.

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Speaker 4: So if you're doing the preventative at a younger age thirty,

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Speaker 4: like you said, around thirty years old, do you even

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Speaker 4: can you even notice it? Like if I had a

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Speaker 4: friend's thirty and he or she did it, and I

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Speaker 4: would would I even be able to tell if the

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Speaker 4: person did or not?

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Speaker 1: Uh, if you know what to look for, yes, but

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Speaker 1: most people don't.

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Speaker 6: Like I can tell when someone's had botox.

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Speaker 29: Even if it's really really good, But like, would it

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Speaker 29: be noticeable to the average person. No, not if it's

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Speaker 29: properly done.

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Speaker 1: Uh. So you know, if you're thirty and you want

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Speaker 1: to get it, you can get it.

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Speaker 29: And I promise nobody will know unless they're just like

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Speaker 29: in the business and know the very subtle things to

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Speaker 29: look for.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know it's preventative treatment.

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Speaker 24: Man.

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Speaker 1: If you get it and you stick with it, like,

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Speaker 1: you will not get those wrinkles. And I guarantee eventually

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Speaker 1: all of us.

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Speaker 29: And I'm starting to get them myself, and my office

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Speaker 29: is hounded me to start botox, and I've been telling

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Speaker 29: them know, but uh yeah, I mean eventually you get them.

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Speaker 1: Time catches up with all of this.

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Speaker 29: But you know, botox is one of those things that

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Speaker 29: can kind of keep at least the wrinkles on the

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Speaker 29: forehead between the eyebrows and then the smile lines or

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Speaker 29: crow's feed from ever developing.

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Speaker 4: So if you're doing it as a preventative measure at

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Speaker 4: that again, at younger age, like do you does it

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Speaker 4: give you physically? Make you feel good? Does it make

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Speaker 4: your face feel good? Or I guess it doesn't even

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Speaker 4: matter if you're doing it. You're even doing it matter

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Speaker 4: if you're doing it at sixty like do you again,

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Speaker 4: not not the vanity part of it, but even like

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Speaker 4: a physical feeling from it.

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Speaker 29: Yeah, so there's no physical feeling. But there is a

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Speaker 29: very interesting side effect from getting botox. And this is

1379
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Speaker 29: not something that we really tut but I assure you

1380
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Speaker 29: it's real.

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01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:07,719
Speaker 1: I mean almost.

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Speaker 29: I don't want to say every patient, but I have

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01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 29: so many patients tell me this. If you have a

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Speaker 29: history of headaches and you get botox, there is a

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Speaker 29: very very high likelihood that you will see a notable

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01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 29: decrease in the amount of headaches you get. Why, because

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Speaker 29: of the muscles of the scalp oftentimes of the origin

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Speaker 29: of headaches, and so by relaxing those muscles, you oftentimes

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Speaker 29: will see if you have chronic headaches.

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Speaker 3: That they get better.

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Speaker 1: We're talking to doctor Bruce Herman and Doc Okay, let's

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Speaker 1: say I started at thirty, am I if am I

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Speaker 1: now obligated to get these more or less for the

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Speaker 1: rest of my life. If I quit doing it, say

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Speaker 1: when I'm sixty, is my face just going to drop off?

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01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 1: Like picture of Dorian Gray or some such or what's

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01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 1: the deal?

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Speaker 6: No, basically what would happen, Say, for example, you.

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Speaker 29: Do it from thirty to forty, and if forty rolls

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01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 29: along in your life, you know what, forget this, I'm done.

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01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 29: So you basically stop the clock as far as those

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01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 29: rinking wrinkles forming. But now when you stop the boatox

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01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 29: the clock starts, and so you basically have ten years

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01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:17,160
Speaker 29: you know, advantage of those wrinkles not forming. But if

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01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 29: you stop using it and then those muscles start working again,

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01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 29: over time, those wrinkles would develop, and they probably would

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01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 29: develop a little bit quicker as we age because the

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01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 29: skin is not quite as resilient, it doesn't have as

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01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 29: much elasticity, and it's a little bit more prone to

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01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:31,440
Speaker 29: wrinkle anyway.

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01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 3: Just with normal aging.

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Speaker 1: That's that's fascinating. So how did.

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01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 4: How did this phenomenon even get started of younger folks

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01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 4: thinking or like wanting to do this prevented?

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01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:46,599
Speaker 1: Was this a TikTok thing or some money?

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01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 2: That's that's the biggest one.

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01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, you hit the nail on the head.

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Speaker 29: And there's a lot of reasons why younger people are

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01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 29: getting more procedures done. And we know this from the

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01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:57,840
Speaker 29: data that the American syudio plastic surgeons look at every

1421
01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 29: year on who is getting what. And we've seen a

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01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:04,280
Speaker 29: trend in the last ten years that the average age

1423
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 29: of people seeking treatments is starting to go down. Historically,

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01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 29: plastic surgery was reserved for like, you know, only middle

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01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 29: aged people. They're only ones that are doing or even older.

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01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 29: But what's happened, you know, social media has hit a rise.

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01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 29: People are seeing you know, pictures of themselves on their socials,

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01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 29: they're seeing their their video when they're doing zoom calls

1429
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 29: these days, the so called zoom effect. They're seeing influencers

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01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:30,080
Speaker 29: and celebrities talk about these treatments all the time. And

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01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 29: so then and there's also that you know, unrealistic expectation

1432
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 29: of beauty that's been in the.

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Speaker 3: United States forever.

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01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 29: So when you combine all those things, but you hit

1435
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 29: the nail on the head mostly the rise of social

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01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:42,800
Speaker 29: media and the things that come along with that. It's

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01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 29: not really surprising at all that younger people are starting

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01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:47,639
Speaker 29: to seek out these treatments.

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Speaker 2: And I think it's okay partly.

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Speaker 29: I mean, again, you know, at thirty year old get

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01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 29: in botox, I don't have a problem with that. You know,

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01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:56,120
Speaker 29: there was a story and I don't know if you

1443
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:57,720
Speaker 29: guys were going to bring this one up, but I

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01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 29: did a segment on my show a few weeks back

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01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:03,640
Speaker 29: about a twenty nine year old getting a facelift, and

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01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 29: I was just like, what, who what doctor would do

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01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:09,000
Speaker 29: a facelift on a twenty.

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Speaker 1: Nine year old?

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Speaker 29: And so yeah, I mean that's just like a whole

1450
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:15,800
Speaker 29: nother discussion when you start to dive into surgeries that

1451
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:18,839
Speaker 29: are generally reserved for people that are, you know, fifty

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01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 29: or sixty and you're getting them a twenty Like, I mean,

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01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:22,120
Speaker 29: that's a problem.

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01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 1: I do have a big issue with that. So this

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01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 1: was like the normal person, not some you know, elephant

1456
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:31,920
Speaker 1: man kind of person or victim of an accent or something.

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01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 1: It would just some mirando nine year old decided they

1458
01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 1: wanted to look like young Madonna or something.

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Speaker 3: That's totally crazy.

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Speaker 29: And so, you know, one of my biggest, you know,

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Speaker 29: gripes about doing a facelift is, you know, one of

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01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:47,839
Speaker 29: the major parts of doing a face lift is tightening

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01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 29: the deep structures of the face. So there's a fashion

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01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 29: layer along the muscle and then also the muscle of

1465
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:54,680
Speaker 29: the neck which starts to fall as we age, and

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01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:57,320
Speaker 29: that's really what a facelift is doing, is tightening those

1467
01:15:57,400 --> 01:15:58,520
Speaker 29: deep structures.

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Speaker 1: In addition tightening the skin.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's almost impossible for someone in.

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Speaker 29: Their twenties to have any fall of those structures, but

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Speaker 29: I will give a very very small asterisk.

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Speaker 6: If it's safe.

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Speaker 29: For example, somebody weighed four hundred pounds and then suddenly

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01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 29: they get on neozimbic and they lose two two hundred

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01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 29: and fifty pounds, it might be possible. That would be

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01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 29: maybe the only time where I was like, Okay, this

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01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 29: very very young person actually does have the issues that

1478
01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 29: are corrected by facelift. But I saw the pictures of

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01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 29: this girl and that was not the case. You know,

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01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:34,560
Speaker 29: somebody took advantage of this poor girl, and actually I

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Speaker 29: looked it up. She actually went out of the country

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01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:39,800
Speaker 29: she did in Turkey, which you know we've talked about medical. Yeah,

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01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:41,680
Speaker 29: we talked about medical tourism all the time and how

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01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 29: I really don't like it, and so, you know, at

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01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 29: least was thankful to know that, you know, some regular

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01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 29: plastic surgeon. It's not doing facelifts on people in their twenties.

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Speaker 29: That would really kind of make me upset. But yeah,

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Speaker 29: this was out of the country.

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Speaker 1: All right, with that, doc, we will let you go.

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Speaker 1: People want to find out more. Where can they go

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Speaker 1: to five you?

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 29: So I have my weekly podcast, Nip Talk It air

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Speaker 29: due to every Friday Vibe. You can catch the segments

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Speaker 29: as we put them up along along the league if

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Speaker 29: you don't watch the whole show. Also, I do a

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Speaker 29: lot on Instagram under Dallas Nip Tuck. So'd love for

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Speaker 29: you guys to come out and check out my stuff.

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Speaker 1: All right, buddy, thanks so much. All it's all good

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Speaker 1: to talk to you guys. Glad you're feeling better. Thank

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Speaker 1: you our good friend doctor Bruce Herman. But yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: pretty bad when a surgeon says I would never do

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Speaker 1: that surgery, but that yeah, because I would say, I

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Speaker 1: bet a facelift is a nice, nice paycheck for a doctor.

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Speaker 1: We talked to this fellow right here, being brought to

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Speaker 1: you by the fine folks at Joseph Chevrolet. Our good

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Speaker 1: friend Bill Cunningham, now Willie. Earlier in the program, we

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Speaker 1: talked to your good friend Andy Furman. Oh, yes, the

1548
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Speaker 1: fur Ball, her ball, who was correct me if I'm wrong.

1549
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:55,599
Speaker 1: He was not the first replacement for Bob Trumpy.

1550
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Speaker 6: Why, you know, back in the good old days after

1551
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:01,759
Speaker 6: the Trumps, he left for the glories that lie ahead.

1552
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:05,559
Speaker 6: Uh you had Chris Collinsworth's kind of in the bullpen

1553
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 6: warming up, you had the fur Ball warming up. You

1554
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:11,720
Speaker 6: had one or two others, but fur Ball was the

1555
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:15,720
Speaker 6: main shall we say, a clog. But Collinsworth needed so

1556
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:18,800
Speaker 6: much help, didn't understand media. Trump told him to quit

1557
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:21,000
Speaker 6: talking like you're a trumpet, like you're some sort of

1558
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 6: a hillbilly. You got to get rid of that twang.

1559
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 6: And uh so, and he was there with his dulcet

1560
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:29,120
Speaker 6: tones to keep the.

1561
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 1: New York, New York accent, yes accents.

1562
01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 6: So, yes, he was there. He was a legend and

1563
01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:41,439
Speaker 6: he was good. And you know, a sports talk has

1564
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 6: had many great and some not so great, but nonetheless, yes,

1565
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 6: he was there. And I want to bring up something

1566
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:50,840
Speaker 6: that Jason brought up with your permission, that he because

1567
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:53,679
Speaker 6: I'm watching it right now on nine where nine stands

1568
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:58,799
Speaker 6: for news. Please, yeah, right now, I'm watching Joe Burrow

1569
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 6: run around the practice facility with nothing on his feet

1570
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 6: at all, throwing eighty yard touchdown passes to Jamar Chase

1571
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:11,320
Speaker 6: in the corner of the end zone, and Joe Flaco

1572
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 6: is fielding balls for Joe Burrow. Could there be a

1573
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:21,200
Speaker 6: surprise come come Sunday. Could it be that Burrow is activated?

1574
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:25,720
Speaker 6: Flaco's AC joint continues to hurt. And in order to

1575
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 6: say save the season, you got to win at Pittsburgh

1576
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 6: and you got to win it home against New England,

1577
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:32,680
Speaker 6: who might be the best team in the NFC right now.

1578
01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:35,320
Speaker 6: And if you lose those two games and you're three

1579
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:39,439
Speaker 6: and eight, you mazo, you maso, yurinate away the season

1580
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:43,200
Speaker 6: because it's over. And So I'm watching Joe right now

1581
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 6: on Channel nine and I'm watching him throw the ball

1582
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 6: and running around. I'm thinking, Hey, what are we watching here?

1583
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 6: It's been what about Uh, it's been all about two months,

1584
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 6: not quite two months, from the second game of the

1585
01:21:56,960 --> 01:21:59,519
Speaker 6: year until now. But Jason, what do you think? What

1586
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 6: are your orthopedic sources tell you about Joe Burrow?

1587
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 1: This is news to me.

1588
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:05,519
Speaker 4: I mean, I knew he was a practice I just

1589
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:09,080
Speaker 4: I didn't put two and two together. So, but I

1590
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 4: knew Flacco is not practicing to give a shoulder rest

1591
01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:17,519
Speaker 4: now now, now, Zach Taylor did come out. I believe

1592
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:19,960
Speaker 4: it was Zach or someone did come out and make

1593
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:22,800
Speaker 4: it clear in his press conference on Monday that he

1594
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:26,680
Speaker 4: will not be playing against Pittsburgh. So I wonder if

1595
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:31,160
Speaker 4: he was heading off your question here, WILLI knowing that

1596
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 4: Flacco was going to take a break and give the

1597
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 4: shoulder a break, which he did prior to the Bears game,

1598
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:41,599
Speaker 4: and then through for nearly five hundred yards. Right, yeah,

1599
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:46,600
Speaker 4: my question back to you, Willie, Yeah right, yeah, I

1600
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:48,720
Speaker 4: just I'm not going to practice during the week, but

1601
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 4: I'll go through for five hundred on the Saturday or

1602
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:51,679
Speaker 4: on Sunday.

1603
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 1: And all the team still is can can George Burrow?

1604
01:22:57,080 --> 01:22:59,599
Speaker 4: Can he tackle? Is the big question. That's my question

1605
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 4: for you, because that's the problem. If you haven't heard yet,

1606
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:04,080
Speaker 4: that's the problem.

1607
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 6: The defense is like the imagine O line in World

1608
01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:10,760
Speaker 6: War One with the French Army. As the hunt came

1609
01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:13,360
Speaker 6: around the right side, imagine the line didn't apply. Now

1610
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:16,240
Speaker 6: this brings up I brought this up to Almo, and

1611
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 6: that is this. I'm watching all the shows simultaneously, and

1612
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:23,559
Speaker 6: the Jets need a quarterback badly, and they got seven

1613
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:26,439
Speaker 6: first round draft picks, so one of the pundits that

1614
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 6: now is the time for the Bengals to trade Joe

1615
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:32,160
Speaker 6: Burrow to the Jets, to New York, give the Bengals

1616
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 6: seven draft picks like the Herschel Walker trade to Dallas

1617
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 6: so many years ago, and then Duke Duke, Duke Totman

1618
01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 6: can pick all the stars in the future.

1619
01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 3: How about that one?

1620
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:48,559
Speaker 1: Hell no, no, well, what what would the fan base?

1621
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:52,400
Speaker 1: I heard you talking to Rocky about that the other

1622
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:55,679
Speaker 1: day too, and I think Rocky pretty much just said

1623
01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 1: what Jason said. But could you imagine the fan base

1624
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 1: here would be, Man, It'd be like a Frankenstein movie.

1625
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:07,680
Speaker 1: They'd be pitchforks and torches in the street, the ladders.

1626
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:09,160
Speaker 6: On the side of Pey Court, they'd be going up

1627
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:14,160
Speaker 6: the building. But nobody in New York shut that down.

1628
01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:16,400
Speaker 6: They said, you know what, that's a good idea that

1629
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:19,479
Speaker 6: Jessy haven't had a quarterbacks showed name it's and so

1630
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:21,639
Speaker 6: it might be good to get another Joe in town.

1631
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 6: And I'm thinking, are you crazy? Are you? Can you

1632
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:28,880
Speaker 6: see Jamar Chase and can you see the great number

1633
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 6: one in five te going crazy about getting rid of

1634
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 6: You know that's not gonna What we need is somebody

1635
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 6: that can pick defensive players that within two or three

1636
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:41,839
Speaker 6: years can play defense. Does that make sense to anybody?

1637
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:45,439
Speaker 6: Can Why get Duke Tobin more force round draft choices? Hell?

1638
01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:48,760
Speaker 6: He says, the two best draft picks I made with

1639
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:53,160
Speaker 6: Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase. Well, hell, a blind, dumb

1640
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 6: befoone pool would have made those picks.

1641
01:24:55,240 --> 01:25:00,840
Speaker 1: Exactly that exactly bragged. God, that's true. Let's put this.

1642
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:04,960
Speaker 4: Eddie and I had Eddie and I had Mark with

1643
01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 4: a c Amazon on last week and he was all over,

1644
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 4: he's all about trading Joe Burrow.

1645
01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:10,439
Speaker 1: Can we put that the rest?

1646
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 6: Come on? Oh my gosh, come on, that'd be like

1647
01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 6: trading Hunter Green. Not quite the thing.

1648
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 1: But nevertheless, whoa screeched. But let me let me ask

1649
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:29,600
Speaker 1: you guys something, because Burrow has become a bit of

1650
01:25:29,760 --> 01:25:32,439
Speaker 1: a name it style kind of guy.

1651
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 6: He is.

1652
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 1: He's getting a little bit of Hollywood. Now, do you

1653
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:42,160
Speaker 1: think that Joe Burrow might indeed welcome a trade to

1654
01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 1: New York City?

1655
01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 6: The Bright Light, the Rano Jason. You might recall that

1656
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:53,680
Speaker 6: Joe Namath Poe's nude supposedly for some point of Playgirl magazine,

1657
01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:57,639
Speaker 6: and Joe Burrow is want to dress on the runway

1658
01:25:57,720 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 6: in New York? Or what's that parrot?

1659
01:25:59,240 --> 01:25:59,559
Speaker 1: Harris?

1660
01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:04,080
Speaker 6: Was that Paris? To me, that wasn't a good look.

1661
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 6: Joe Burrow in a dress. I'm thinking, Joe, what are

1662
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:11,599
Speaker 6: you doing? Man? You're from your life from Athens, Ohio?

1663
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:14,040
Speaker 6: For God's sakes, what are you doing? But but Joe

1664
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 6: Namath was shall we say, uh i advan guard when

1665
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:21,360
Speaker 6: it came to not wearing clothes getting pictures taken. I

1666
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 6: think that was a perfume commercial of one type or another,

1667
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:26,840
Speaker 6: male cologne or whatever. And I'm thinking, look, you know,

1668
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:30,200
Speaker 6: New York at the capital of the world. Yeah, I'm thinking,

1669
01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:32,840
Speaker 6: what are we doing? All I want to do is

1670
01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 6: win some football games and get the glory of his

1671
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:38,760
Speaker 6: first two seasons back. But you know, we got the toe,

1672
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:41,040
Speaker 6: we got the calf, we got the knee, you got

1673
01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:43,920
Speaker 6: the appendix, you got the wrists, you got the wrist

1674
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:45,680
Speaker 6: and the appendix, and you got the toe and the

1675
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:49,800
Speaker 6: knee and the calf. And I'm thinking this doesn't look

1676
01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 6: this is not good. But I'm watching Channel ninth. Got

1677
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:57,360
Speaker 6: him throwing balls. I'm thinking, well, maybe maybe maybe for

1678
01:26:57,520 --> 01:26:58,280
Speaker 6: New England at.

1679
01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:02,360
Speaker 1: Home he can throw, But man, I'll tell you what

1680
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:06,240
Speaker 1: if and well, if Rocky were he can speak to it,

1681
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 1: and I think I can speak for Rogan. This one

1682
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:10,760
Speaker 1: is kind of a no brainer. If guys know that

1683
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 1: he's at least bit hobbled with a toe injury, they're

1684
01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:16,920
Speaker 1: going to come after him like the fifth cavalry Man.

1685
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:19,799
Speaker 3: Blitz bl it'll.

1686
01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:25,160
Speaker 6: And if one thing we've learned, you're plugging one Joe

1687
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:29,120
Speaker 6: for another Joe, it's kind of the same. I'm thinking, Okay,

1688
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:33,160
Speaker 6: the offense, I think fighting officially Flacco through for four

1689
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:37,240
Speaker 6: hundred and seventy five yards. Could Burrow have done any better?

1690
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:41,639
Speaker 6: I don't think so. The problem is giving up one

1691
01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 6: thousand and fifty yards on defense in the last two games. Now,

1692
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:48,400
Speaker 6: there's the problem, Sherlock. That's what you gotta fix, not

1693
01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 6: the offense. Even the running game has gotten so much better,

1694
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 6: and money Mack is not issue any more bad checks.

1695
01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:59,240
Speaker 6: Money Max is kicking the ball through the upright. We've

1696
01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:02,439
Speaker 6: got the offense. It's going for fifty points a game,

1697
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:03,840
Speaker 6: and I still can't win.

1698
01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:11,879
Speaker 1: Listen. I mean, it's been it's been, It's been discussed widely,

1699
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:15,800
Speaker 1: and it's been bitched about widely. Them losing that Jets game.

1700
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 1: Come on, man, that was not only icing on the cake,

1701
01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:22,320
Speaker 1: that was lighting the candle on the birthday kick right there,

1702
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:24,280
Speaker 1: blowing it out.

1703
01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:28,640
Speaker 6: That's just no. And now the next five games are

1704
01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:31,880
Speaker 6: shall we say, difficult, and Baltimore looks to be real.

1705
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:35,920
Speaker 6: Pittsburgh is new England came out of nowhere. Jason, are

1706
01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:37,080
Speaker 6: they the best team in the AFC?

1707
01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:40,360
Speaker 4: I don't know, Colts. The Colts are pretty good, and

1708
01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:43,920
Speaker 4: I don't count Baltimore out. Baltimore might ultimately be the

1709
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:47,479
Speaker 4: best team in the AFC. Their defense is a little

1710
01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:50,600
Speaker 4: bit concerning, but Lamar's back. They've won three in a row.

1711
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:54,080
Speaker 4: How did Colts defense get so good? With the Bengals

1712
01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:55,880
Speaker 4: cast off defensive coordinating.

1713
01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 1: The Bengals fired this guy, see he must not be

1714
01:28:59,600 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 1: very good.

1715
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 6: Gets fired. Oh he goes to Colts and just kick.

1716
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:06,559
Speaker 3: The ass all over the middle of the ass.

1717
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:11,800
Speaker 6: Mister ass. We got this guy from Notre Dame who's

1718
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:15,400
Speaker 6: not golden. And I'm thinking, Okay, maybe it's not the coach,

1719
01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:19,439
Speaker 6: Maybe it's the players. Just possibly it's the person maybe

1720
01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 6: like the players. Maybe I don't know. Maybe, but he

1721
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:26,000
Speaker 6: did he did take Borrow and Chase, So please give

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01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:27,120
Speaker 6: Tobin some credit, will you.

1723
01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:30,800
Speaker 1: Well, when we were talking to football earlier, he did

1724
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:33,680
Speaker 1: see he was talking about old school coaches and how

1725
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:37,640
Speaker 1: the Bengals do not have that. Zach Taylor's is a

1726
01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:41,040
Speaker 1: fine as a very fine man, good family man. Seems

1727
01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:44,280
Speaker 1: to the players seem to like him, but everyone he

1728
01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:46,920
Speaker 1: was he was calling back the days of Forrest Greg.

1729
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:49,840
Speaker 1: Not only did the players like him, but they were

1730
01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:51,599
Speaker 1: scared to death of that man.

1731
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:54,639
Speaker 6: He would look at you, so I remember, I remember

1732
01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:57,280
Speaker 6: lapping mothers used to say that in a practice laugh

1733
01:29:57,360 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 6: and lost the tooth or two and uh Greg, Greg

1734
01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:02,040
Speaker 6: picked it up, put it in his pocket and said,

1735
01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:08,040
Speaker 6: we'll deal with this when the season ends. Well, okay,

1736
01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:10,880
Speaker 6: when the season's over, will give you back your tooth.

1737
01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:15,120
Speaker 6: But now, I mean the head coach in Detroit, what's

1738
01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:18,160
Speaker 6: his name, is a Campbell or something that guys old school.

1739
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:21,400
Speaker 6: The rest of it is all people like you know,

1740
01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:25,479
Speaker 6: the Rams and and the Bengals, and you know Mike Tomlin.

1741
01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:27,560
Speaker 6: They got to they got a search party out for

1742
01:30:27,720 --> 01:30:31,080
Speaker 6: Mike Tomlin in Pittsburgh. He doesn't win to go far

1743
01:30:31,240 --> 01:30:34,519
Speaker 6: enough from the playoffs. Hell, it's me the third year

1744
01:30:34,520 --> 01:30:36,320
Speaker 6: in there. We missed the playoffs. But you know, the

1745
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 6: old school coaches are done. The players won't play for him.

1746
01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:41,920
Speaker 1: All right with the With that, Willie, maybe it's time

1747
01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:44,840
Speaker 1: for you to get out your Fedora and head out

1748
01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:47,519
Speaker 1: there to the field, put on your old check sports coat,

1749
01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:49,320
Speaker 1: and coach a little football.

1750
01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:53,080
Speaker 6: One thing in my life I've not done is coach

1751
01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:55,360
Speaker 6: will played football. And thank god I still have a life.

1752
01:30:55,400 --> 01:30:56,080
Speaker 6: And I got knees.

1753
01:30:56,439 --> 01:30:59,000
Speaker 1: Thank god I didn't do that, Willie. Thanks so much,

1754
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:01,440
Speaker 1: odd blessed American.

1755
01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:05,080
Speaker 6: Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, Bye bye there go.

1756
01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:06,400
Speaker 29: Uh.

1757
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:10,680
Speaker 1: But that's that's funny. Him sitting there watching TV, analyzing

1758
01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:11,840
Speaker 1: every possible thing.

1759
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Speaker 3: That he had.

1760
01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:14,280
Speaker 1: I can just see it's all he does. Like a

1761
01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:17,560
Speaker 1: plays golf and watches TV like a crazy like a

1762
01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:22,840
Speaker 1: crazy man, sitting there with about five five TVs, sitting

1763
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:25,840
Speaker 1: there just in his you know, kickback in his lounge chair,

1764
01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:33,559
Speaker 1: drinking energy drinks, screaming at the TV. Good times, man,

1765
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:38,120
Speaker 1: very good times. Coming up. You're going to be talking

1766
01:31:38,200 --> 01:31:41,160
Speaker 1: to Alex Stone from ABC after the news here at

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01:31:41,160 --> 01:31:44,519
Speaker 1: the bottom of the hour, and tomorrow Rock will be

1768
01:31:44,640 --> 01:31:48,120
Speaker 1: back with us and we will have your friend Jason

1769
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:51,320
Speaker 1: Hoffin doing a little sports picking. You might have to

1770
01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:53,000
Speaker 1: join us on that one time and do a little

1771
01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:56,320
Speaker 1: guest picking or something. All right, that'd be fun. I

1772
01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:58,320
Speaker 1: could I could help with that. I do a little

1773
01:31:58,360 --> 01:31:59,439
Speaker 1: pick and pool every week.

1774
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Speaker 3: All right?

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01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:03,920
Speaker 1: With that, though that, let's check into traffic and weather, what's.

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Speaker 7: the shoulder seventy one southbound at two seventy five. It's

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Speaker 7: still being cleaned up, and we're looking at traffic sewing

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Speaker 7: from a red round Fields hurdle and also on two

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Speaker 7: seventy five and seventy one and accent it on their

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Speaker 7: shoulder now two seventy five it killed me that crashes

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Speaker 7: out of the way seventy five southbound between twelfth and

1786
01:32:35,560 --> 01:32:38,760
Speaker 7: Kyle's laying that breakdown of a semi that is still there.

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Speaker 7: The right lane has reopened. We've got seventy five sewing

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Speaker 7: southbound Robert Reagan Highway to Norwood Lateral by the ten

1789
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Speaker 1: Jason Williams in for Rocky Today. Just a little while longer,

1805
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Speaker 1: but before we get out of here, Jason, Now, this story,

1806
01:33:40,479 --> 01:33:43,600
Speaker 1: I haven't read much into it, but I saw a

1807
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:47,680
Speaker 1: story on the news on TV shoot. I'm going to

1808
01:33:47,720 --> 01:33:50,439
Speaker 1: say it was last week sometime and I had no

1809
01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:52,879
Speaker 1: idea how this was going on. But here to discuss

1810
01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:58,280
Speaker 1: is wild Alex Stone. This missing little girl I believe

1811
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:03,479
Speaker 1: started in California, right, Yeah.

1812
01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:09,519
Speaker 30: Yeah, so it's really nationwide now. But separately, today her mom,

1813
01:34:09,680 --> 01:34:13,200
Speaker 30: Ashley Buzzard, was in court because she was arrested on

1814
01:34:13,400 --> 01:34:16,760
Speaker 30: Friday on a unrelated charge, but it got her into

1815
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:20,240
Speaker 30: custody for false imprisonment, and then she was in court

1816
01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:24,080
Speaker 30: today looking really different because investigators have said she typically

1817
01:34:24,120 --> 01:34:26,800
Speaker 30: wears wigs and makeup, and in court today didn't look

1818
01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:29,080
Speaker 30: like she had a wig on, a real short curly

1819
01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:32,160
Speaker 30: hair and no makeup. So she was brought into court

1820
01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 30: and she played it not guilty to a charge of

1821
01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:38,439
Speaker 30: false imprisonment. And this is allegedly where she had kind

1822
01:34:38,479 --> 01:34:42,120
Speaker 30: of befriended this guy involving the case of her missing

1823
01:34:42,240 --> 01:34:45,599
Speaker 30: daughter and held him against his will and she had

1824
01:34:45,640 --> 01:34:48,840
Speaker 30: a box cutter last week preventing him from leaving her home,

1825
01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:51,719
Speaker 30: and so she was arrested. The judge today said, based

1826
01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:54,000
Speaker 30: off of that single charge, he's got to release her

1827
01:34:54,080 --> 01:34:58,080
Speaker 30: with a GPS ankle monitor on. So she was granted

1828
01:34:58,160 --> 01:35:00,320
Speaker 30: released today and the judge a short time to go

1829
01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:03,400
Speaker 30: in court in Santa Barbara County. Sand Man, you're released

1830
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:06,960
Speaker 30: on supervised release. But as all of this is going

1831
01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:10,040
Speaker 30: on with that false imprisonment charge, the bigger story around

1832
01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:13,240
Speaker 30: Ashley Buzzer, it is that her daughter disappeared over a

1833
01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:16,080
Speaker 30: month ago, and she's not helping at all to find her,

1834
01:35:16,200 --> 01:35:18,240
Speaker 30: and there is no indication of where she is. So

1835
01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:22,240
Speaker 30: on October fourteenth, the local school district in Santa Barbara

1836
01:35:22,280 --> 01:35:25,760
Speaker 30: County called the Sheriff's office asking for a welfare check

1837
01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:29,160
Speaker 30: because nine year old Melody Buzzard had not been seen.

1838
01:35:29,720 --> 01:35:31,720
Speaker 30: They thought at the time, in over a year that

1839
01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:34,479
Speaker 30: she was allegedly being homeschooled, although there's no indication she

1840
01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:37,960
Speaker 30: actually was being homeschooled. She had no friends, she was

1841
01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:41,600
Speaker 30: not around any family members, and Melody Buzzard had not

1842
01:35:41,840 --> 01:35:44,160
Speaker 30: been checked in with school in over a year. So

1843
01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:46,920
Speaker 30: initially they thought this little girl had just disappeared a

1844
01:35:47,040 --> 01:35:49,720
Speaker 30: year earlier and nobody had noticed. Well, they have now

1845
01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:53,200
Speaker 30: figured out that on October seventh of this year that

1846
01:35:53,400 --> 01:35:56,000
Speaker 30: Ashley the mother, and Melody, the nine year old daughter,

1847
01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:58,519
Speaker 30: that they were seen on surveillance video running a car

1848
01:35:58,720 --> 01:36:00,439
Speaker 30: in Santa Barbara and they went on a three day

1849
01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:03,280
Speaker 30: road trip to Nebraska and back. On that road trip,

1850
01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:07,040
Speaker 30: the nine year old wore wigs. Mom did as well.

1851
01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:09,400
Speaker 30: She had a wig on the nine year old when

1852
01:36:09,400 --> 01:36:12,920
Speaker 30: they rented the car and a hoodie hood up, so

1853
01:36:13,280 --> 01:36:16,920
Speaker 30: it seemed like trying to hide her identity. The mom,

1854
01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:21,200
Speaker 30: Ashley allegedly changed the rental car's license plates from California

1855
01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:23,360
Speaker 30: to New York plates. They don't know where she got

1856
01:36:23,479 --> 01:36:26,320
Speaker 30: the New York plates and then put the California ones

1857
01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:29,439
Speaker 30: back on before she returned that rental car. But when

1858
01:36:29,560 --> 01:36:32,719
Speaker 30: she returned the rental car in Santa Barbara, Melody was gone.

1859
01:36:32,920 --> 01:36:36,240
Speaker 30: She disappeared on that road trip and on October fourteenth,

1860
01:36:36,320 --> 01:36:38,599
Speaker 30: deputies that went to the home after the school called

1861
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:41,920
Speaker 30: and Raquel Zick is with the Santa Barbara County Sheriff's Office.

1862
01:36:41,960 --> 01:36:43,160
Speaker 30: She says deputies went to the hall.

1863
01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:45,840
Speaker 28: These did contact the mom at the residence, but she

1864
01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:50,000
Speaker 28: was unable to give us a fireball or reasonable explanation

1865
01:36:50,200 --> 01:36:51,240
Speaker 28: up to where Melody was.

1866
01:36:51,439 --> 01:36:53,800
Speaker 30: So they executed a search warrant and they have found

1867
01:36:53,880 --> 01:36:55,920
Speaker 30: no signs of the girl. They have since tracked down

1868
01:36:55,960 --> 01:36:58,719
Speaker 30: the Melody was last scene alive. They found surveillance video

1869
01:36:58,920 --> 01:37:01,959
Speaker 30: on that road trip from October ninth on the Colorado

1870
01:37:02,040 --> 01:37:05,000
Speaker 30: side of the Colorado Utah border. There is a big

1871
01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:09,000
Speaker 30: FBI search underway over multiple states today looking for Melody.

1872
01:37:09,400 --> 01:37:11,759
Speaker 30: There is no evidence she's alive. There is no evidence

1873
01:37:11,800 --> 01:37:14,360
Speaker 30: that she's dead, and she could be anywhere in the

1874
01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:17,200
Speaker 30: world at this point. If she is alive. Bill Garcia

1875
01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:20,200
Speaker 30: is a private investigator searching for Melody on the father's

1876
01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:22,960
Speaker 30: side of the family. The dad of Melody died years

1877
01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:25,679
Speaker 30: ago in a motorcycle accident, but the family is paying

1878
01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:29,120
Speaker 30: for this private investigator. He is retracing their steps right now.

1879
01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:31,400
Speaker 30: He's at the Colorado Utah border and he says, there's

1880
01:37:31,439 --> 01:37:32,320
Speaker 30: no signs of anything.

1881
01:37:32,360 --> 01:37:36,320
Speaker 3: I don't see any of the signs that will indicating

1882
01:37:36,680 --> 01:37:39,479
Speaker 3: Melody's life was taken and that she may be out

1883
01:37:39,760 --> 01:37:41,200
Speaker 3: anywhere near there.

1884
01:37:41,640 --> 01:37:44,200
Speaker 30: So this point, if she's alive, they don't know where

1885
01:37:44,280 --> 01:37:47,880
Speaker 30: she is. Investigators say Mom is being totally uncooperative. They

1886
01:37:47,920 --> 01:37:49,960
Speaker 30: have no indication of what happened to Melody on that

1887
01:37:50,120 --> 01:37:52,960
Speaker 30: road trip or why they were wearing wigs or switching

1888
01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:56,840
Speaker 30: license plates. Lily Dennis is Melody's paternal grandmother. She was

1889
01:37:56,880 --> 01:37:59,120
Speaker 30: at court today. She's mad. She wants answers from Ashley.

1890
01:37:59,160 --> 01:38:01,479
Speaker 11: I don't think big here with puncture.

1891
01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:02,960
Speaker 29: I don't care to put me in.

1892
01:38:03,120 --> 01:38:07,800
Speaker 30: Jill, but I want to know and nobody knows. So

1893
01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:10,439
Speaker 30: today Ashley Buzzard. She's being released from jail on that

1894
01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:12,759
Speaker 30: false imprisonment charge. She's gonna have to wear that GPS

1895
01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:14,840
Speaker 30: monitor so they'll have an idea of where she is.

1896
01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:18,120
Speaker 30: But she's not helping find her nine year old daughter.

1897
01:38:18,280 --> 01:38:21,000
Speaker 30: And by the way, the last photo, the photo that's

1898
01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:23,840
Speaker 30: been out there of Melody was from two years ago

1899
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:26,160
Speaker 30: and she was seven years old. They don't have There

1900
01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:28,920
Speaker 30: is not a more updated photo of this little girl.

1901
01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:30,920
Speaker 30: There's the surveillance video of them running the car, but

1902
01:38:31,000 --> 01:38:32,600
Speaker 30: she was wearing a wig with a hoodie over it.

1903
01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:35,959
Speaker 30: Not a real good picture of her, the last real.

1904
01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:36,439
Speaker 6: Photo of her.

1905
01:38:36,479 --> 01:38:38,280
Speaker 30: And you know a seven year old going from seven

1906
01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:41,120
Speaker 30: to nine years old can change a lot. But the

1907
01:38:41,200 --> 01:38:43,639
Speaker 30: last photo they have of her is over two years old.

1908
01:38:43,760 --> 01:38:45,479
Speaker 30: Nobody had seen her between that time.

1909
01:38:47,840 --> 01:38:54,680
Speaker 4: Wow, my head spinning here, Alex. Is the fact that

1910
01:38:54,840 --> 01:38:59,040
Speaker 4: the judge and what was the case again where she

1911
01:38:59,600 --> 01:38:59,960
Speaker 4: has to work?

1912
01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:07,240
Speaker 31: Yeah, the false imprisonment they did that judge, Is he

1913
01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:11,040
Speaker 31: or she make her wear this ankle monitor knowing the

1914
01:39:11,200 --> 01:39:15,280
Speaker 31: other other side of this story, or is that illegal

1915
01:39:15,320 --> 01:39:15,880
Speaker 31: to even do that?

1916
01:39:16,720 --> 01:39:16,920
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1917
01:39:17,080 --> 01:39:20,280
Speaker 30: So he said today as a prosecutor said, look, you're

1918
01:39:20,280 --> 01:39:23,080
Speaker 30: on her she needs to remain in custody. Look at

1919
01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:26,320
Speaker 30: this other case where she was switching license plates and

1920
01:39:26,360 --> 01:39:27,559
Speaker 30: wearing wigs and the dada.

1921
01:39:28,040 --> 01:39:28,160
Speaker 6: You know.

1922
01:39:28,200 --> 01:39:30,559
Speaker 30: I hate to tell you, I can't bring that into

1923
01:39:30,600 --> 01:39:33,200
Speaker 30: consideration because she hasn't been charged with anything. There's no

1924
01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:34,240
Speaker 30: crime in that yet.

1925
01:39:34,840 --> 01:39:34,960
Speaker 6: Uh.

1926
01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:37,120
Speaker 30: And they, you know, because they don't have a body,

1927
01:39:37,160 --> 01:39:39,080
Speaker 30: they don't know what happened to her. You're not kidnapping

1928
01:39:39,120 --> 01:39:41,760
Speaker 30: your own daughter. They don't know. I mean, maybe she's

1929
01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:45,840
Speaker 30: alive with somebody. There's indications that she has told people

1930
01:39:45,960 --> 01:39:48,320
Speaker 30: that maybe she's alive in Utah and she was handed

1931
01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:50,000
Speaker 30: to somebody, So they don't.

1932
01:39:49,840 --> 01:39:50,439
Speaker 24: Know, you know.

1933
01:39:50,600 --> 01:39:53,240
Speaker 30: So he said, just based on the law, he's got

1934
01:39:53,320 --> 01:39:55,920
Speaker 30: to go on what you would do with a false

1935
01:39:55,960 --> 01:39:58,720
Speaker 30: imprisonment count for telling somebody they can't leave a room

1936
01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:04,000
Speaker 30: and can't rely on anything involving the missing girl until

1937
01:40:04,080 --> 01:40:07,160
Speaker 30: there's something that links her to that. So he had

1938
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Speaker 30: to go based just on the false imprisonment. But but

1939
01:40:09,280 --> 01:40:10,200
Speaker 30: he definitely knew about it.

1940
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Speaker 1: All right with that, Alex, we will let you go, buddy,

1941
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Speaker 1: Thanks so much. You got to thank thanks Alex. Well,

1942
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Speaker 1: I yah, and thanks Alex. That's just an awful story, man,

1943
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Speaker 1: I think of getting into talking about kids and just

1944
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Speaker 1: that I think that will pissed any normal personal But

1945
01:40:31,280 --> 01:40:36,479
Speaker 1: have you ever in your kids are held now nine

1946
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Speaker 1: and twelve, actually, oh my twelve year old will be

1947
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Speaker 1: thirteen here in a few days eighteen, and have you

1948
01:40:42,240 --> 01:40:45,559
Speaker 1: have you ever been concerned that one of your kids

1949
01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:46,599
Speaker 1: was lost?

1950
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Speaker 4: I don't remember specifically. I generally feel like there was

1951
01:40:52,360 --> 01:40:56,160
Speaker 4: maybe a time we were in a store, and I'm

1952
01:40:56,200 --> 01:40:58,560
Speaker 4: sure every parent out there is like, yeah, oh I

1953
01:40:58,680 --> 01:41:03,760
Speaker 4: had that experience, and you know, you briefly like your

1954
01:41:03,920 --> 01:41:07,920
Speaker 4: kids disappears and he's over in an aisle or two

1955
01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:09,360
Speaker 4: away looking at something.

1956
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Speaker 1: There's right, there is no worse feeling. Oh, that happened

1957
01:41:13,960 --> 01:41:23,120
Speaker 1: to us twice. If you're familiar with the uh actually

1958
01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:26,240
Speaker 1: not downtown Milford, but the Milk oh yeah, off of

1959
01:41:26,360 --> 01:41:28,960
Speaker 1: the Milford to seventy five off of Milford there there's

1960
01:41:28,960 --> 01:41:32,880
Speaker 1: a Low's and there's a target, I believe, and h

1961
01:41:33,680 --> 01:41:35,720
Speaker 1: and stuff that. There's a couple of things around there,

1962
01:41:36,520 --> 01:41:38,559
Speaker 1: but there's also an eye hop there and we used

1963
01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:41,320
Speaker 1: to live real close to there. Right down to seventy

1964
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Speaker 1: five is only a couple exits away. So we took

1965
01:41:44,439 --> 01:41:46,479
Speaker 1: our we took the boys there when they were a

1966
01:41:46,479 --> 01:41:49,400
Speaker 1: little I Hop got breakfast because you know, it is

1967
01:41:49,439 --> 01:41:51,040
Speaker 1: when you have little kids like that. And they were

1968
01:41:51,120 --> 01:41:55,479
Speaker 1: probably i want to say, like nine and seven something

1969
01:41:55,560 --> 01:41:57,960
Speaker 1: like that. Breakfast places are fun when they're yeah, kids

1970
01:41:58,080 --> 01:42:01,439
Speaker 1: and so, but they're also up at like, so we're there.

1971
01:42:01,479 --> 01:42:04,240
Speaker 1: It's a Saturday morning. I needed to go to Low's. Anyway,

1972
01:42:04,680 --> 01:42:07,840
Speaker 1: I was like, guys, let's go. And Deb was up

1973
01:42:08,040 --> 01:42:10,519
Speaker 1: and come on, we're gonna go to I Hop get

1974
01:42:10,560 --> 01:42:13,519
Speaker 1: a little breakfast. Daddy's gonna stop with the hardware, fingers

1975
01:42:14,240 --> 01:42:19,080
Speaker 1: going to eye. There you go. And it was we

1976
01:42:19,240 --> 01:42:21,800
Speaker 1: used we used to let him pretend they were ordering food.

1977
01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:24,320
Speaker 1: They would they would think they were ordering food, but

1978
01:42:24,360 --> 01:42:26,920
Speaker 1: they weren't. Dead would just tell the waitress, look, just

1979
01:42:26,960 --> 01:42:29,760
Speaker 1: give them my she would get whatever and hers. She

1980
01:42:29,800 --> 01:42:32,320
Speaker 1: would order a side of pancakes. Just give them those pancakes.

1981
01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:35,760
Speaker 1: Don't even worry about all the fruit fruit stuff they want. Okay, cool.

1982
01:42:37,000 --> 01:42:39,000
Speaker 1: And so we're leaving, We're going to go to if

1983
01:42:39,040 --> 01:42:43,880
Speaker 1: you're familiar with this area, the Low's is, it's the

1984
01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:44,720
Speaker 1: same parking lot.

1985
01:42:45,200 --> 01:42:45,479
Speaker 3: Okay.

1986
01:42:46,840 --> 01:42:50,960
Speaker 1: So then being little boys, they said, Dad, can we

1987
01:42:51,400 --> 01:42:55,280
Speaker 1: can we walk down there? And it's seven thirty eight

1988
01:42:55,320 --> 01:42:57,360
Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning, and somebody, yeah, if you guys

1989
01:42:57,439 --> 01:43:00,200
Speaker 1: just be careful. Look there's cars going everywhere around here.

1990
01:43:00,640 --> 01:43:04,240
Speaker 1: Just be careful. Yeah, and your mother and I are

1991
01:43:04,240 --> 01:43:05,519
Speaker 1: just going to get in the car and we'll meet

1992
01:43:05,560 --> 01:43:08,760
Speaker 1: you down there and just meet us, meet us out,

1993
01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:12,720
Speaker 1: I said, meet us in the front, meaning the front

1994
01:43:12,760 --> 01:43:13,200
Speaker 1: of the store.

1995
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Speaker 6: Right.

1996
01:43:14,320 --> 01:43:16,360
Speaker 1: Well, so we uh go, Deb and I are just

1997
01:43:16,439 --> 01:43:19,439
Speaker 1: taking our time. Just we didn't take that much time.

1998
01:43:19,479 --> 01:43:22,559
Speaker 1: When we get in the car, drive down there, walk

1999
01:43:22,640 --> 01:43:25,360
Speaker 1: up to the front of the store. No little boys there,

2000
01:43:26,720 --> 01:43:30,639
Speaker 1: and so we're looking around looking out in the parking lot.

2001
01:43:30,920 --> 01:43:33,880
Speaker 1: Obviously I'm not a a lot of cars, so we're

2002
01:43:34,720 --> 01:43:39,360
Speaker 1: looking everywhere a little they probably they must be inside.

2003
01:43:39,840 --> 01:43:43,640
Speaker 1: So we go inside. Nowhere to be seen, oh no,

2004
01:43:44,680 --> 01:43:50,840
Speaker 1: and uh so then we run back outside and Deb

2005
01:43:51,080 --> 01:43:55,519
Speaker 1: is I'm starting to freak. Deb is really freaking, and

2006
01:43:57,439 --> 01:44:00,439
Speaker 1: they have to be here someplace they couldn't have. And

2007
01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:04,599
Speaker 1: about that time, there's a white panel van driving out

2008
01:44:04,640 --> 01:44:10,040
Speaker 1: of the parking lot and my wife started screaming running

2009
01:44:10,080 --> 01:44:15,920
Speaker 1: after the white panel van, and I was like, oh now,

2010
01:44:16,080 --> 01:44:19,920
Speaker 1: my heart's beating ninety, you know, million times a second.

2011
01:44:20,400 --> 01:44:23,639
Speaker 1: And it's instant too. Oh, absolutely it is. And now

2012
01:44:23,720 --> 01:44:28,720
Speaker 1: I'm starting to panic, and so I run back in

2013
01:44:29,160 --> 01:44:33,360
Speaker 1: to ask somebody to call nine to one one. And

2014
01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:35,680
Speaker 1: as soon as I run back in, here come the

2015
01:44:35,760 --> 01:44:40,519
Speaker 1: boys walking out of They had gotten distracted by god

2016
01:44:40,720 --> 01:44:44,320
Speaker 1: knows a Christmas tree display or something and had wandered

2017
01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:47,200
Speaker 1: off to the side instead of being right there in front.

2018
01:44:48,400 --> 01:44:52,720
Speaker 1: And I think their mother had to go home and

2019
01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:57,839
Speaker 1: do a pants change because she was six severely upset,

2020
01:45:00,400 --> 01:45:02,760
Speaker 1: and that all that, that all happened. And I bet

2021
01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:06,320
Speaker 1: you couldn't have been longer than two minutes, right, seriously,

2022
01:45:06,720 --> 01:45:10,200
Speaker 1: but it felt like but it felt like two hours.

2023
01:45:10,360 --> 01:45:10,559
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2024
01:45:10,760 --> 01:45:14,559
Speaker 1: Yeah. And there was another time where Jack was going

2025
01:45:14,600 --> 01:45:18,080
Speaker 1: to meet him buddy of his at a move think

2026
01:45:18,720 --> 01:45:22,280
Speaker 1: whatever Batman movie. I just remember it being Batman, And

2027
01:45:22,439 --> 01:45:25,240
Speaker 1: we took him to that theater that's right there, the

2028
01:45:26,000 --> 01:45:29,280
Speaker 1: theaters to the showcase there. Yeah, and Deb dropped him

2029
01:45:29,280 --> 01:45:32,200
Speaker 1: off and the kids he is going to meet him

2030
01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:34,800
Speaker 1: in the lobby. It's like, okay, you're you're good. Here's

2031
01:45:34,880 --> 01:45:37,200
Speaker 1: the money to buy yourself a pop and stuff like that,

2032
01:45:37,280 --> 01:45:40,160
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. So he's like, I'm good, and you know,

2033
01:45:40,200 --> 01:45:42,719
Speaker 1: that's where he was. He was probably about twelve thirteen

2034
01:45:42,800 --> 01:45:46,040
Speaker 1: by then, so he was kind of so he uh,

2035
01:45:46,840 --> 01:45:50,800
Speaker 1: he goes in, she comes home. I said, everything cool, Yeah,

2036
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:55,160
Speaker 1: he's there and Gabe is going to meet him. So

2037
01:45:55,320 --> 01:45:58,280
Speaker 1: he So then we get a call later on from

2038
01:45:58,640 --> 01:46:03,640
Speaker 1: Gabe's mom. You know, we didn't see Jack anywhere. Uh So,

2039
01:46:05,040 --> 01:46:11,000
Speaker 1: just long story short, Jack didn't see him anywhere, so

2040
01:46:11,640 --> 01:46:13,840
Speaker 1: he just walked into the movie theater by himself and

2041
01:46:13,960 --> 01:46:17,639
Speaker 1: started watching the movie without telling anybody. So he watched

2042
01:46:17,640 --> 01:46:20,680
Speaker 1: the entire movie by himself. Well, they finally step went

2043
01:46:20,720 --> 01:46:23,519
Speaker 1: over there and started roaming the aisles and found him

2044
01:46:23,520 --> 01:46:25,519
Speaker 1: sitting there, going, hey, mom, what are you doing here

2045
01:46:27,040 --> 01:46:33,080
Speaker 1: drinking his pop and eating his popcorn. Dude, you're gonna

2046
01:46:33,080 --> 01:46:34,439
Speaker 1: have to have a little chat when you get home.

2047
01:46:35,520 --> 01:46:35,800
Speaker 18: With that.

2048
01:46:35,960 --> 01:46:38,920
Speaker 1: With that thought in mind, we check in with traffic

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Speaker 1: and weather. What's going on.