1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: Two six sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Okay, 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: here's a truth bomb from six one seven and by 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: the way, the text line is on fire seven zero 4 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: four seven zero seven zero four seven zero. Another trans 5 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: massacre yesterday, transgender mass shooting, this time twenty minutes fifteen 6 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: minutes from my house. This was in Pawtucket, Rhode Island, 7 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: at a hockey arena. There was a high school hockey tournament, 8 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 1: a game going on, and a father or I guess 9 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: he was a father. Robert Dugan is his name, or Dogan, 10 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: however he pronounced his last name. He fifty six years old. 11 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: He transitioned to become a woman. The whole thing, the plumbing, 12 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: everything was changed and was not accepted by his ex wife. 13 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: She divorced him. The kids did not like it that 14 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: he He insisted that they had two mommies, not a 15 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: mommy and a father, so they were distant from him. 16 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: He was angry. He wanted to lash out. He went 17 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: to the hockey rink. He murdered his ex wife in 18 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: cold blood. He killed his daughter, He shot several of 19 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 1: his other children. They are now in very critical condition. 20 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 1: And then he ate his gun and killed himself. Another 21 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: trans shooter, another trans massacre. And this is what six 22 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: one seven says, and I think six one seven hits 23 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 1: the nail on the head. Jeff, Let's stop kidding each other. 24 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 1: There is no such thing as being quote unquote transgender. 25 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: These mass murders are being perpetrated by cross dressing homosexuals 26 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: taking drugs that alter they're already unbalanced brain chemistry. The 27 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: hormones have been devastating and driving many of them to 28 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: commit unspeakable crimes and unspeakable acts of evil. The Uvaldi shooter, 29 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: the Georgia school shooter, the Iowa shooter, the Philadelphia shooter, 30 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: the Colorado Springs shooter, the Nashville Christian School shooter, the 31 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: Aberdeen shooter, the two Denver school shooters, the shooting in Canada, 32 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 1: and now yesterday shooting in Rhode Island. All of them, 33 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: all of them committed by people who were cross dressing 34 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: homosexuals taking drugs and hormones. Why is the media not 35 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: reporting the truth? You're dead on six one seven, and 36 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: there's big money now, and these drugs, these hormones that 37 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: they're giving them, We're talking billions of dollars. Sex change, transgender, 38 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 1: these these gender affirming care operations, the puberty blockers, everything, 39 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: There's a lot of money, there's a huge complex now involved, 40 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: and I'm telling you this is not going to end 41 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: until we address the real root of the problem. And 42 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: the real root of the problem is if it dangles, 43 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: you're a boy. If it doesn't dangle, you're a girl. 44 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: It's really that simple. You're born a man, you're born 45 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: a woman. You're born a male, you're born a female. 46 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: Even your chromosomes, your DNA are fundamentally different between men 47 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: and women. And the more we continue to feed this 48 00:03:54,640 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: fantasy and indulge these delusions and these literally mentally ill people, 49 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: and then jack them up on these drugs and puberty 50 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: blockers and hormones, never mind all out sex change operations, 51 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: You're gonna get a lot more shootings. It's not gonna stop. 52 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: It's only gonna get worse. Dave in Pennsylvania, our constitutionalist 53 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: correspondent out in the Pittsburgh area. Thanks for holding Dave, 54 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: and welcome. 55 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 2: Good morning, Jeff. 56 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: How you doing, Buddy, good good good, very good. 57 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, good, Jeff. 58 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 2: I'm off from marks. I'm taking care of my wife. 59 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: She's recovering really well from her new replacement surgery. So 60 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 2: I sent you the picture of messages. She's doing great. 61 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: I mean nice to hear that, Dave. 62 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thank god I get good friends like you 63 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 2: to pray for a Hey, Jeff, first of all, God 64 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 2: made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. Okay, and Jeff. 65 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 2: The breaking news. Jesse Jackson just passed away. I don't 66 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 2: know if you heard that. 67 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: Yes I did. I saw it. It's everywhere. And Dave, look, 68 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: I have a general I have a policy. See, I 69 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: don't like to comment or speak ill of people just 70 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: passed away. I was not a fan of Jesse Jackson. 71 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,239 Speaker 1: Everybody knows that. But out of respect for his family, 72 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: I'm not going to trash this guy today. I'm I'm 73 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: not a liberal, honestly, Dave. That's what liberals do. So look, 74 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: he had he had children, he had a wife. He 75 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: obviously had family and friends who loved him and adored him. 76 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 1: And I'm not going to stand there and run this 77 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,679 Speaker 1: guy down. I may talk about it a little bit later, 78 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: but if I have nothing good to say about a 79 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: person who just passed away, I don't say anything. But 80 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: please go ahead, Dave. 81 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 2: I just wanted to let you know I don't know 82 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 2: if you heard. But Jeff, first of all, you know, 83 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, the leftist for there against the 84 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 2: second memic who's Alex Predi up in Minnesota. 85 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 3: Jet, they were. 86 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,119 Speaker 2: Bracket while he's got a right to carry a gun. 87 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: Now they're against the guns again, Jet. It only fits 88 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 2: the narrative. These kind of democrats like an off and 89 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 2: on switch. First they're aren't for something that the equo 90 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 2: equates their agenda, and then when they're not, they flick 91 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 2: it back off. 92 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 3: Jeff. 93 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 2: I mean that's you know, the Bible says in the 94 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 2: Book of James, the Gospel of James, which is the 95 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 2: brother of Jesus, his real earthly brother, the double minded 96 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 2: mean is unstable in all his ways. You want to 97 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 2: talk about being double minded? I mean, Jeff, when you 98 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 2: get the junk chopped off, I don't mean to be derogatory. 99 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 2: When you get your you know, what's that the Lord 100 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 2: gave you and created you with. Of course people are 101 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 2: going to go crazy. 102 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 3: You know. 103 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 2: I don't know, Jeff, how to put it. It's just 104 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: I feel bad for that family and all that, you know, 105 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 2: the poor people that lost their lives. But again, Jet, 106 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 2: the left hemes to try to justify these you know, Jeff, 107 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 2: the first ones that again, and I say this almost 108 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 2: every time I call Jeff. The left is for tolerance 109 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 2: and diversity. They preach it, but they're the last ones 110 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 2: to practice of Jeff. If you're in their agender and 111 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 2: you agree with them, and everything is good, on the 112 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 2: on the table with them, you know, laying the cads 113 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 2: on the table, like you say, the Germans say, Jeff, 114 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 2: I mean, it's still your thunder. It's okay with the 115 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,799 Speaker 2: left of Jeff. This isn't normal. You know, it's not normal. 116 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 2: J If somebody want to have there, you know, what's 117 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 2: cut off and then this happens. 118 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: Oh, I know, you're absolutely right, You're absolutely right. Okay. 119 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: You know a lot of people are making a very 120 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: very good point, especially on the text line. They're saying, 121 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,559 Speaker 1: you know, Jeff, just look at it from the poor 122 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:27,119 Speaker 1: family's point of view. This poor woman who's now dead. 123 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: His ex wife, she thought she was marrying a man. 124 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: She apparently fell in love with that man. They ended 125 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: up having six beautiful children together, again a man, and 126 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: then he wakes up one morning and says he's a woman. 127 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: And everybody now has to just say Okay, that's fine, 128 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: go ahead. And he starts wearing lipstick, and he starts 129 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: wearing long nails, and he's you know, polish, and he's 130 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: wearing dresses and high heels, and Okay, what started off 131 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: maybe as a bit of a game or a fetish 132 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: or whatever, you realize, No, he's not kidding around. He 133 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:16,679 Speaker 1: wants to be known as ROBERTA. He's not Robert Dogan. 134 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: He's ROBERTA Esposito. And then he ends up having an 135 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: actual sex change operation, the whole thing, and suddenly now 136 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: biologically he's cut off his private parts, which is genital mutilation. 137 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: He's put on an artificial female body part in between 138 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: his legs. He's got female fake breasts, and he's taking 139 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: estrogen shot after estrogen shot after estrogen shot, and it's 140 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: causing his hormones to go absolutely haywire. It's chemically altering 141 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: the balance in his brain. He's got all kinds of 142 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: rages or depression or mental health issues because God knows 143 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: what the drugs are doing to him. And he's telling 144 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: his kids, you may think i'm your dad, I'm not 145 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: your dad. You're gonna call me mom whether you like 146 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: it or not. I'm your mom. And by the way, 147 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: he's got bigger arms than I do. He was a weightlifter. 148 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: I think he still was up to the end. You 149 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: got to see him. The pictures that are coming out. 150 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: The guy's got I'm telling you he's got. I mean, 151 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: what are those fourteen fifteen inch arms? I mean those 152 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 1: are I mean, he's got a pair of guns. As 153 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: they say, the guy was big, muscular, huge arms, a weightlifter. 154 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: If you can imagine his massive tattoos down his entire 155 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: right arm. And you know, as I said, stubble, that 156 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: thick stubble, that five o'clock shadow, he always had that 157 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: five o'clock shadow. He's got. I'm telling you, he's got 158 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: thicker facial hair than I do. I'm just being honest 159 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: with you. And all of a sudden, we're all supposed 160 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: to pretend that you're a woman. Think of the shock, 161 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: What it did to the wife, what it did to 162 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: his children. It led to their divorce, It led to 163 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: the family breakup. They were never the same again. The 164 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: children are now the survivors. The few survivors are saying 165 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: he was mentally ill for years. We had all kinds 166 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: of incidents. He was very sick, it just made our 167 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: life hell. And my mom supported all of us. And 168 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: you know, one of her kids, her youngest, was at 169 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: a hockey tournament and she's there to support her son 170 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: on the ice. It was apparently a tournament for seniors 171 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: in the Northern Providence, that whole area, and the whole 172 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: family shows up to support, you know, their brother or 173 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: their son, their sibling, and this animal out of the 174 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: blue with his two stupid pink colored guns and his 175 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: you know, his female long hair dyed with his lipstick 176 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: and his eyeshadow and his blue nails. Because somehow everything 177 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: that he did didn't fix him. It just made it worse. 178 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: And then you take it out on your family and 179 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: you massacrem for what going to a hockey game. Can 180 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: you imagine what this poor family went through. See, nobody 181 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: ever looks at it from the victim's point of view, 182 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: and all these democrats and all the media and all 183 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: these lives us, all they do is go on about, oh, 184 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: trans people need to be affirmed trans rights. There are 185 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: human rights, you know, and we should be accommodating to them. 186 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: And the problem is we're just not accommodating enough. No, 187 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: we have been who accommodating. That's the problem, and someone 188 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: should have put this guy in his place a long 189 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: time ago. No, you know what, You're not gonna abandon 190 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: your family. No, your wife is completely reasonable to expect 191 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: that she married a man, she's gonna and slip and 192 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: slept with a man and had children with a man, 193 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: that you would stay a man. Now, look, I'm not 194 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: going to force you to stay in a marriage and 195 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: be a father if you don't want to. But don't 196 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: stand there and expect everybody to sympathize you. Because he 197 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: was writing, he was on X all the time, and 198 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 1: he was whining like a child on X, saying he 199 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 1: needs more support. People like him don't get enough support, 200 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: like he's the victim in all this. This is from 201 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: five oh eight, Sorry, six oh three, My bad, Jeff. 202 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: You and I are both longtime devoted husbands and fathers. 203 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: We both have wives and children who highly depend on 204 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: us in those two roles. So let me approach this 205 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: from that angle and appeal to you as a peer. 206 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: Let's put aside the shooting aspect for a moment. As 207 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: you say, let that go, can you imagine the degree 208 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: of selfishness and self centeredness it must take to put 209 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: your own desires over the welfare and responsibility that you 210 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: have to every member of your family. You have taken 211 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: a vow to a woman to put her needs and 212 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: her interests above your own. And you've brought children into 213 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: this world with the responsibility of considering how your actions 214 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: will affect their lives and well being. That's your primary 215 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: responsibility and concern. End of story, full stop. Instead, like 216 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: in Rhode Island, we have a man who has put 217 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: his own desires above everyone else's needs who he was 218 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: responsible for, and the fact that he was willing to 219 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: shoot them all is emblematic of this selfish mindset and attitude. 220 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: When you become a father and a husband and you 221 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: accept that commitment, it's no longer all about you. I 222 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: love you six oh three in a non sexual way. 223 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: I love you in a non sexual way. I'm not 224 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: I don't know how else to say this. I say 225 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: this to people all the time. When you get married, 226 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: you take on responsibilities as a husband and of course 227 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: as a wife. It's you know, it's two way straight. 228 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: And of course when you have children, you have fundamental 229 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: duties and responsibilities to each other. And I'm telling you 230 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: as a man. I'm just this is the way I 231 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: approach marriage and fatherhood. It's not about me. It's not 232 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: I'm telling you it's not about me. When I got married, 233 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: I walked down that aisle. I said, I'm going to 234 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: put Grace's needs, her interests above mine. I'm going to 235 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: be her protector. I'm going to be her provider. I'm 236 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: going to do the best I can for her. Same 237 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: thing with my two kids. Now, you know, do I 238 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: need a break once in a while, Do I need 239 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: some you know, man cave time because of the pressures. Yeah, sure, 240 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: of course. I'm not a machine. I'm a human being. 241 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: But that I would put my family through something like 242 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: this and a band in them the way he did that, 243 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: in a nutshell, that's the problem with everything that's wrong 244 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: with liberalism. Me me, me, me all the time, Me 245 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: me me. Well, it's not about you. There are some 246 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: people that rely on you, that depend on you. Sometimes 247 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: it's about putting others first, you know. During the holidays, 248 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: was it a couple of months ago, during the Christmas break, 249 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: we took a short cruise from Tampa Bay, Okay, just 250 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: the family and we were in the We went to 251 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: Cosmel and then we went two stops in Bahamas. It 252 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: was a short cruise, wasn't a very big cruise anyway, 253 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: long story short. As we're disembarking from the boat to 254 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: you know, get on shore at the Bahamas, you have 255 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: to you know, you go through the ship, you go 256 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: through down, you know, down at the bottom of the ship, 257 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: and you have to swipe your card and they have 258 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: to look at you and make sure that the card 259 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: and the ID on the card matches the face that's 260 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: leaving the ship temporarily. And so, you know, Ashton goes first, 261 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: and I'm there with Grace and the kids. Ashton goes first, 262 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: and Grace is talking to one of the staffers on 263 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: the celebrity cruise line and she says, yeah, that's my son, okay. 264 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: Then it's Eva. She goes, yeah, that's our daughter okay. 265 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: Then she goes and she's an ex. She swipes, you know, 266 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: swipe the card. He looks at the picture, looks at her. 267 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: She says, I'm the wife. And then it's my turn, 268 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: and then I swipe and she says, yeah, that's my husband. 269 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: And I go to the guy at the Calebrities Celebrity 270 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: Cruise Line. I said, non i'll scratch husband, put down 271 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: slave and he starts to laugh. I think he was 272 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: from India. Don't quote me on that, but I think 273 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: he was from India anyway. And he started laughing, and 274 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 1: he said, yeah, I know how you feel. I have 275 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: a wife and two kids as well. I said, ah, 276 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: it doesn't it feel like slavery sometimes? Ah, But anyway, 277 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: if they're happy, I'm happy. And then we just disembarked 278 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: from the ship and had a very nice day in 279 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: the Bahamas, doing what doing what Grace and the kids 280 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 1: wanted to do. But let that go. The point being, 281 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: you know, to the previous text that I read, this 282 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:34,719 Speaker 1: is what husbands and fathers do, or at least what 283 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:40,239 Speaker 1: they should do, which is put their families first, and 284 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 1: their children and their wives first. That's the point. That's 285 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: what makes you a man. And you know, for this 286 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 1: guy to be so selfish, I mean, you know, leave 287 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: aside the murder part, but you know, what is it 288 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: six seven, eight years and you know, destroy the family, 289 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: have this marriage be completely disrupted and the divorce traumatize 290 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: the kids because he's got to go around and think 291 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: that he's a woman. I'm sorry, it's disgusting and then 292 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: of course it showed you how much he loved his 293 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 1: wife and kids when he put a bullet in him. 294 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 1: And to me, that's in a nutshell, that sums up 295 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: everything that's wrong, everything that's wrong with transgenderism, everything that's 296 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: wrong with the way the media is trying to cover 297 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: up for them. And look, the media narrative is, now, 298 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: why are we having guns being brought into arenas? It's 299 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: the gun and that there should be metal detectors at 300 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: these arenas for high school. It's not the gun. That's 301 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: not the issue. It's the trend. It's the phenomenon of 302 00:19:54,960 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: transgender as sick, transgendered individuals committing massa trone cities in 303 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 1: mass shootings like we saw again yesterday in Pawtucket, Rhode Island. Agree, disagree? 304 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: Frank in Wooburn. Thanks for holding Frank, and welcome. 305 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 4: Good morning, Jeff. 306 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: How Ai you very good? How are you, Frank? I'm 307 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: doing good, Thank you, Oh Frank, hold on, We've got 308 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: to try to reconnect with you, my friend. You started 309 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: off sounding like a human being and then you you 310 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: start used to like Chad GPT or AI or something. 311 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: You sound like, almost like a robot. All right, Mike, 312 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: can we reconnect with Frank. Can Frank sound like a 313 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: normal person? Frank? Yeah, keep going, Frank, give me another sentence. 314 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 2: Can you hear me? 315 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 3: Now? Yes? 316 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: Now you're You're normal. Now you're a human. Keep going, 317 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: my friend. 318 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 4: I gotta tell you, Jeff, you know I bragg to 319 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 4: everybody about you. You know. I mean, I've been listening 320 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 4: to you. You're like an addiction. I can't I can't wait. 321 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 4: I mean, I get up before six o'clock and I'm 322 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 4: looking at the minutes and I won't turn on WRKO 323 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 4: until you come on, and then when your show is 324 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 4: over at ten o'clock, boom, I shut it off because 325 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 4: I'll be brutally honest with you, because it's good to 326 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 4: be Frank. I think you're light years ahead of everybody. 327 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,239 Speaker 4: I just think the world of you. I mean, you know, 328 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 4: I listen to you every day for ten years. I 329 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 4: don't know if you've been wrong once, and so why 330 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 4: would I waste my time on fake news? If I 331 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 4: want to know what's going on in the world, I 332 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 4: just listen to you, and that's it. 333 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 2: Everybody about you. 334 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 1: Thank you, true, thank you, Frank, Thank you, Frank. I 335 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: want to thank you very much. It means a lot 336 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: to me, Frank. The Governor of Rhode Island has now 337 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 1: addressed the state. Listen to what he said. I want 338 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 1: to get your reaction. The governor of Rhode Island has 339 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:07,199 Speaker 1: now come out and said, this is Dan McKee saying 340 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: that the guns are the issue after what happened yesterday 341 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:17,479 Speaker 1: in Pawtucket, Rhode Island. And so now he's saying that 342 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: we have to have even more gun control in Rhode Island, 343 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 1: that there isn't enough gun control, and that we need 344 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: even metal detectors at these hockey rinks, and that he's 345 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: going to now do everything in his power to tighten 346 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: gun laws even more and to put in metal detectors 347 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: at sporting events, high school sporting events, college sporting events, 348 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: all across Rhode Island. Quote to many, to many Rhode Islanders, 349 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: they know what it feels like. Too many Rhode Islanders 350 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: know what it feels like to lose a loved one 351 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: to gun violence. Not once did he address the mental illness, 352 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: the transgenderism, none of that. It was guns, guns, guns, guns, 353 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: What say you, Frank. 354 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 3: What say me? 355 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 4: I'll tell you what they mean. I think the party 356 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 4: that's restricted on guns. God forbid. I think they the 357 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 4: uh many Americans in this country realized the enemy of 358 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 4: the of the citizens of the United States, and it's 359 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 4: the Democrat Party. So why would they want the American 360 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 4: people to have guns? 361 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 1: Well, that's a very good point, Frank, that's an extremely 362 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: good point. Frank. Are you do you think we're finally 363 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: hitting a tipping point where you know what? You know what? 364 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 4: Cheff? I love I love you in a non sexual way. 365 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 4: You are the ace of w y k O. I. 366 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 4: I can't say it enough times. And I love your 367 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 4: callers like Mags in New Hampshire, Jervy on the Cape, 368 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 4: and Russel and Boston. These guys are brilliant. I'm not 369 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 4: as smart as these guys. But I told you before 370 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 4: I have common sense. And you asked me. You said, Frank, 371 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 4: I know you disagree with a lot of the policies 372 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 4: of the Democrat Party. But if you had to pick 373 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 4: one thing, one thing about the Democrats so you don't like, 374 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 4: what would it be? And I told you, can they 375 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 4: just stop lying? 376 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: I dropped the mike, drop the mic, drop the mic. Frank, 377 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: thank you very much for that call. Look they're lying 378 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: to us now again. They're lying to us now again, 379 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: you know, and by the way, most people in Rhode 380 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: Island don't even know that the shooter, Robert Dorgan, either 381 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: the murderer that animal, was transgender. They have no clue. 382 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: We have no clue that he was mentally unstable, that 383 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 1: he was transgender, that he was bitter, that when he 384 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: converted to whatever transition to becoming a wife, sorry to 385 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: becoming a woman, that his wife couldn't accept it, and 386 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: that she eventually filed for divorce, and that he was 387 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: bitter and angry, and that his children he wanted them 388 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: to call him their mother, and they wouldn't like, why 389 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: you're our dad, Why should we call you mommy? There's 390 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:32,239 Speaker 1: no none of that. They have no idea according to 391 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 1: what the media is feeding them. And this clown of 392 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 1: a governor, according to what they're saying, is nah. This 393 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: guy had two guns. He shouldn't have by the way, 394 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: colored pink, but they don't even mention that. And he 395 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: just had two guns, and he came in there with 396 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: two guns and he just shot people because he could, 397 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: because you know, the guns. It's the guns. It's always 398 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: the guns. Unless you're alex pretty then it's not the gun. 399 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: If you're Alex pretty, then they loved the Second Amendment. See, 400 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: so it depends. It depends what day, what moment, what hour, 401 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 1: what second you catch them at. But now it's the guns, 402 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: the guns, the guns, the guns. I mean, how do 403 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: these people live with themselves? Like the American people deserve 404 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: to know the truth and to show you how sick 405 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 1: Robert Dorgan was sorry roberta. As he kept calling himself 406 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: ROBERTA Esposito, he gave himself a new identity. Okay, So 407 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 1: Robert Dorgan the day before the shooting goes on X 408 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 1: and says, quote unquote, I love my six kids so 409 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: much I would die for them. This is what he's claiming. 410 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: Oh my kids, he was going on about. You know 411 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: you think we trans people don't love our kids. Oh, 412 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: we love them. I would die for them, that's how 413 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: much I love them. Yeah. Twenty four hours later, Yeah, 414 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: you killed them. You killed them. They died because of you. 415 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 1: You killed them. That's how much you love them, you 416 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: piece of you know. I can't say it. You pos 417 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight. Kiva? 418 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: Is it? Kiva? Kiva in New Hampshire, Thanks for holding Kiva. No, 419 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: I just want to make sure, Mike. I know we've 420 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: spoken to Kiva, but uh yeah, Kiva, go ahead, sorry 421 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: because Mike mangles. You know, sometimes you'll misspell the name. 422 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 1: I just want to make sure it's the right one. Kiva. 423 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: Please go ahead. Thanks for holding and welcome, and thank 424 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 1: you for having me on show, on the show a 425 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: few times. 426 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 3: But I am transgender, and I just want to say 427 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 3: this Number one, I see that a hole. I hope 428 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 3: you rots and health for what he did. But to 429 00:27:55,800 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 3: draw this correlation to say that, you know, I get it. 430 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 3: There's statistics here. They are now starting to show up 431 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 3: that this you know this transgender shooters. But by your 432 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 3: own argument, if these guys are just what's hanging between 433 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 3: their legs and they are actually men, and now the 434 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 3: statistics become men are the perpetrators of all these violent shootings, 435 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 3: very few women. If you look at those statistics, is 436 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 3: it a couple three women versus hundreds of men? So 437 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 3: by the argument saying this guy was a man, then 438 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 3: now what you're doing is you're you're condemning all men 439 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 3: to being violent and toxic. I'm not going to go 440 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 3: down that road because I'm a statistician. I'm an engineer, 441 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 3: and I'm not going to draw a false correlation between shooters, 442 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 3: mentally unbalanced people and transgenderism. It's just not there statistically 443 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 3: or scientifically. And we're painting a large group of people 444 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 3: with a large with a large brush. And now, because 445 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 3: of this stuff that's being said right now and some 446 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 3: of your audience members, this puts a target on my 447 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 3: back because there's going to be cree. 448 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: You can say whatever you want, but please don't swear anyway. 449 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: So but go ahead, Kiva if you can, please just 450 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: don't swear. That's it, because I'll get fined by the FCC. 451 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: So go ahead, please finish your thought. 452 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 3: Thank you. I said that this is emotional for me, 453 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 3: so because because we're also I'm not going to have 454 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 3: this discussion on the difference between gender and sexual preference. 455 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 3: I'm neither. I'm asexual. I have no sexual preference, so 456 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 3: I can't correlate even the saying now I'm a homosexual 457 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 3: gay to my gender. I came out later in life. 458 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 3: I have kids. I'm a parent. I love my kids. 459 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 3: I never shoot them. That guy is a tool, as 460 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 3: you said, pos he deserves to run. And how long 461 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 3: with anybody else that perpetrates crimes against other people with 462 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 3: guns and stuff. But I'm certainly not going to blame 463 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 3: guns either. But let's not blame trans people for this. 464 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 3: We're not mentally defective. These people that kill their families 465 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 3: are mentally defective, and it doesn't matter what gender they are. 466 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 3: They're just disturbed individuals. And you can't even make that 467 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 3: argument about the guns. Now. This guy went off and 468 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 3: did this, and now I'm hearing what I'm hearing on 469 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 3: the show, and that this hurts me because it's saying 470 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,719 Speaker 3: that I'm now a threat to society. This is the 471 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 3: rhetoric that I've been hearing now for the last year 472 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 3: or so that somehow trans people are the root of 473 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 3: all evil now and the scourgis and terrorists and killers 474 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 3: and everything else. I don't know what was going on 475 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 3: in that guy's marriage or with his family. He was 476 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 3: just a messed up loser. But I'm plugged in with 477 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,479 Speaker 3: thousands and thousands of transgender people and none of them 478 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 3: are killers or child molestors of pedophiles or any of 479 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 3: that stuff which we see all the time. Pedophiles with 480 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 3: priests and pastors and scale leaders and even the guy 481 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 3: in the White House is a pedaphlet a. Let's face 482 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 3: Bill Clinton to Bill Gates, I hear you. 483 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: No, look, Kiva, look, and you're not going to like 484 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: my answer. And I don't mean this in an insulting way. 485 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: I really mean this with true, all due respect, and 486 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: I respect for your dignity and your humanity. Okay, so 487 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: you're going to take it the wrong way, but you 488 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: really shouldn't. You're over I think you're you're being overly 489 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: sensitive and you're over overly personalizing the issue. This is 490 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: not about you. It has nothing to do with you. 491 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: You've called this show at least several times over the 492 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: last year. You're always very rational, very reasonable, very logical. 493 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: You strike me as a very peaceful, law abiding individual. Yes, 494 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: there are many in the transgender community just like you, 495 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: there's no question. But it's sort of like when we 496 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: talk about Islamic terrorism, or when we talk about you know, 497 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: there's just whatever, there's you know, other issues. People say, well, 498 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: you're painting a broad brush. No, we're not painting a 499 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: broad brush. There are many Muslims who are very peaceful. 500 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: The problem is there is a disproportionate number of terrorists 501 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: who call themselves Muslims who identify as Muslims. We can't 502 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: bury our head in the sand. It's the same thing 503 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: with these transgender mass shootings. It's not that all transgender 504 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: people are mass shooters. That's false. That'd be ridiculous to 505 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: say that. But we're looking now at mass shooting. I 506 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: mean I just named examples of school after school, after school. 507 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: There was another one up in Canada just a week ago, 508 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: eighteen years old. Usually you're right, they're usually homosexual or 509 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: whatever men, and he was transitioning. He was quote unquote transgender, 510 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: very angry, very bitter, clearly mentally very ill. And ten 511 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: people were killed in twenty five injured, including kids. There's 512 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: got to be a point where you say, there is 513 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: a disproportionate number of mass shooters who are in the 514 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: trans community or identify with the trans community. It may 515 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: be a violent subculture, but it's there. And so I 516 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: don't think you're doing yourself any favors by saying, well, 517 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: this has put a target on my back. No, it 518 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: doesn't put a target on your back. What it should 519 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: do is alert law enforcement and the media to say 520 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: there is a problem with some people within the transgender community. 521 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: For whatever reason, and if there's a red flag, you 522 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: should see that red flag and take appropriate action. It's 523 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: the same thing when we talk about Islamic terrorism, or 524 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: I could go on and on, you know whatever. There's 525 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: a form different forms of terrorism. You know, when we 526 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: talk about white supremacy, and you know, a terrorism regarding 527 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: you know, relating to white supremacists. I don't go around 528 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 1: and say, oh, I'm so offended, Oh this is targeting 529 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: all whites. So I don't think you, as a transgender person, 530 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,399 Speaker 1: should be in any way upset or angry about this. 531 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 1: You know, to me, I think you have to ask 532 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: yourself why are there so many transgender mass shooters? And 533 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 1: I think, to be honest, if we were to have 534 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: a frank conversation, I think Sandy nailed it when she 535 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: said to me earlier, this didn't happen twenty thirty years ago. 536 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: So what's changed? I'll tell you because twenty thirty years ago, 537 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: if you want to get a sex change operation, as 538 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: an example, you had to see a psychiatrist, You had 539 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: to see a therapist. They have to make sure are 540 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: you sure this is what you want to do? Okay? 541 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 1: Why don't you try living as a woman? For a while. 542 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,280 Speaker 1: Just live as a woman. No, don't change your body. 543 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: Just spend the living as a woman. Are you comfortable? 544 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: Does it make you happy? Is this what you want? 545 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: In other words, there were rules, there were regulations, there 546 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 1: was oversight. Now anybody and his uncle can get a 547 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: quote unquote sex change operation. And so I think what 548 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: you're seeing now is you have mentally ill people. They're 549 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: mentally ill and they say, oh, maybe i'm trans, Oh 550 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,879 Speaker 1: maybe I identify as a woman. Yeah, that's what it's 551 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 1: got to be. Well, I'll tell you what, fix my plumbing, 552 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: pump me up with hormones, and I'll be good again. 553 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: And it doesn't work. So what I'm saying is we 554 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 1: have to start being honest. And if we're honest, we 555 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: could stop these mass shootings. But the moment you say 556 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: this puts a target on everyone's back. What you're saying 557 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: is bury your head in the sand. And I'm telling you, Kiva, 558 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: it's not going to work. We don't want to bury 559 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,439 Speaker 1: our head in the sands. I don't think it benefits us, 560 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: and I certainly don't think it benefits you, and it 561 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 1: certainly doesn't benefit the transgender community. If someone tells me Jeff, 562 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: I'm transgender. I want to live as a woman or 563 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 1: live as a man in peace. Go ahead, knock yourself out. 564 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 1: I'm serious, go ahead. It's a free country, God bless you. 565 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: But when you got people like here, take Tyler Robinson 566 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: when you start and there is a subculture trans Tifa, 567 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,919 Speaker 1: which is very real. Anybody who opposes us, anybody who 568 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 1: disagrees with us, anybody who criticizes us, blow their head off. 569 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 1: You got a problem. And this guy was another one. 570 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: He didn't feel quote unquote accepted by his wife and 571 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: his children. So what did he do? He killed them. 572 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 1: That's a problem. Final word to you. 573 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,760 Speaker 5: Kiva, Yeah, yeah, I didn't think a fests the argument. 574 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 3: I think you make a. 575 00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 5: Good point, but I just kind of want to wrap 576 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 5: this up up by saying that I'm not walking around 577 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 5: a fear thinking that I'm scared for pretty much the community. 578 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 5: If we take the word transgender out of this argument 579 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 5: and just say shoot murderer. Okay, I hear you. There's 580 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 5: a lot of school shootings that happen to have transgend people, 581 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 5: But we really need to look at the numbers and 582 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 5: statistics overall, because I'm sure some of the other shooters. 583 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 5: The hundreds of shooters that have been out there have 584 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,919 Speaker 5: been disturbed for some other reason. 585 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 3: Maybe they were maybe they were hetersexual and disturbed, maybe 586 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 3: they were cisgender and disturbed. We really have to look 587 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 3: at the numbers now to say that transgenderism is the 588 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 3: problem here, because I don't. Yeah, there's a lot of 589 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 3: school shootings, and let's not minimize any of those, but 590 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 3: there's a lot of shooters in general that are not. 591 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 3: And so we just want to make sure we're not 592 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 3: drawing false correlations here because I'm a statistician and statistics 593 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 3: association does not equal statistical correlation, not all. 594 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 1: I hear you, Kiva. Look, you you made your argument. 595 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,959 Speaker 1: I think you made a very good, strong case. As always, Kiva, Look, 596 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I'm not saying this to stroke your ego. 597 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: I'm being very frank with you. If you come to 598 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 1: a Cooner Country rally event, whatever, and you know, hey, 599 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: I'm Kiva, I'm transgender, not only will no one say 600 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,760 Speaker 1: anything bad to you, you will be welcomed with open arms. 601 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 1: People will shake your hand, somebody will want to buy 602 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 1: you a beer. No one is going to threaten you, 603 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 1: like I just really want you to understand that we 604 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 1: don't care how you lead your personal life. We really don't. 605 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 1: It's the violent, militant members of the transgender community