1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBS Boston's news radio. 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 2: Dan Watkins, A little update for you is now Red 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 2: Wings five. Yeah, I know that's okay. Well, you know 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 2: we keep we keep our sports fans up the date 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 2: here at night love that. 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 7 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 2: Let me tell you a little sniper there for the 8 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 2: for the Red Wings, all right, not trying to give 9 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: you a hard time, just back, got your back all 10 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: the time. 11 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 3: Don't appreciate it, Dan, talk soon here, you bet you? 12 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 3: All right? There is a story that is hanging around. 13 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 2: That uh, the admitted the uh, the healthy administration would 14 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 2: prefer to see go away. 15 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 3: Uh. And you have. 16 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: Republican gubernatural candidates, so one of them is with us tonight. 17 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: Mike Kaneely, Mike, welcome to Nightside. 18 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 3: How are you sure? 19 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: Hey, Dan, I'm great, Thank you so much. Great to 20 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: be with you. 21 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 3: Sounds like you're at a rally there of some stores, but. 22 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: There's not too much back. I just wrapped up an 23 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: event down here, all right. 24 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 3: Great well. 25 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: Samantha Gross of the Boston Globe wrote a really interesting 26 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: piece on November eighteenth, entitled Healey's administration denies releasing records 27 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 2: tied to former AID accused of trafficking cocaine. So the 28 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 2: allegations against Lamar D. Cook are that he was the 29 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: intended recipient for about eight kilograms of cocaine, little more 30 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 2: than most people might use on the weekend, which you say, 31 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: some seventeen pounds or at least seventeen pounds, and it 32 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 2: was delivered to what is called colloquially in out in 33 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 2: western Massachusetts as Hotel U mass where a Cook served 34 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 2: as the director for nearly seven years and was a 35 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 2: top aid to Governor Heally. And for some reason, the 36 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 2: Globe basically has decided not to provide much information right 37 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 2: about this. Tell us what the information is that you 38 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 2: would like to see, And if you were governor I 39 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 2: you say that you would, you'd comply with the UH 40 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 2: with the pledge of transparency that Governor Healey herself made. 41 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: Right, that's right three years ago. Well, again, there's a 42 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: number of really important points there. First of all, Governor 43 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: Heally promised us the most transparent governor's office in history, 44 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: and we're a long way from that one. And so 45 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,399 Speaker 1: it's a it's a it's a feature of state law 46 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: that the governor's office, if not subject to the public 47 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: records laws, and she's taken full advantage of that. She 48 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: said in contrast that on day one her office would 49 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: be subject with the public records laws. That hasn't happened, 50 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: you know. Secondly, I think it was pointed out in 51 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: the Global article that that if you're getting a shipment 52 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: of eight kilograms, it's not your first shipment. In other words, 53 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: this is a this is a fairly sophisticated uh drug 54 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: traffick in operation being run out there. But related to that, 55 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 1: where was being run out of? I think the Global 56 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: report that it was out of a government office. It 57 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: was out of the government, it was out of the 58 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: governor's office. And so this person that was involved is 59 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: the number two person in the governor's Western Mass Office. Now, 60 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: I served eight years in the Baker administration. We had 61 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: an office in Springfield. Governor Healey has an office in 62 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: Springfield that is an extension of the governor's office, and 63 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: so we have and by the way, Governor Healey recently 64 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: said this is a herb its or a low level employee. 65 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: That is not the case. If you're the number two 66 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: person in the Governor's Western Mass Office, you're not a 67 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: low level employee. So this is a senior member of 68 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: her team trafficking cocaine out of the Governor's office. And 69 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: so I think it's a shameful set of facts, and 70 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: we deserve to know as much about this is. We 71 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: need to know a lot more about it. I mean, 72 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: how did this happen? 73 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: By the way, in the Globe article, just to reinforce 74 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 2: that what you said, the Globe article rights that Cook 75 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 2: forty five was initially detained outside what locals call the 76 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: quote Little Statehouse on October twenty fifth, after authorities said 77 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: they seized about eight kilograms more than seventeen pounds of 78 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 2: cocaine that was slightly to be delivered to the office 79 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 2: over that weekend. 80 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,239 Speaker 1: That's right, Dan, that is no different than the governor's 81 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: office on Began Hill. It's just an extension of that office. 82 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 2: And also the fellow who finds himself in the midst 83 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,799 Speaker 2: of this, and again he enjoys the presumption of innocence. 84 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 2: He pleaded guilty and the judge has granted him bail. 85 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 2: Nonviolent crime, but a pretty serious allegation on the list. 86 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: Apparently they the governor has chosen not to release information 87 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 2: about Cook. State mandated background check and a two thousand 88 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 2: and one gun arrest came up during the vetting process. 89 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 2: Cook and two other men were arrested in his shooting 90 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 2: in Springfield, but the outcome of the case is unclear. 91 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 2: A court officials told The Globe the records have since 92 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: been sealed. 93 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: Dan there's no excuse for sealing those records, and it's 94 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: obvious there's only two possible outcomes here. One is that 95 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: they did a background check and that arrest was on 96 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: the background check and they chose to hire the person anyway. 97 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: Or the second possible outcome is they ran the background 98 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: check and it failed to catch the gun charge, in 99 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: which case you got a question your background check process, 100 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: which is why I called for a full investigation of 101 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: what happened here. And Governor Healely has said, Okay, we've 102 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: terminated the employee and the law enforcement process will on 103 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: its course and we're not going to comment any further. 104 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: I think that's nonsense. That she is the CEO of 105 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: the executive branch of state government. This is a massive 106 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: personnel failure, and so what she ought to do is 107 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: do a full investigation of what happened. And the question 108 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: I got all the time of the campaign traills, how 109 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: did this happen and the answers I don't know. No 110 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: one knows so well. I said specifically, what should happen 111 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: the be They should do an investigation and release the 112 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 1: findings in detail. Who recommended this person for the job, 113 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: who we interview them, how do they get chosen out 114 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: of an applicant pool, who managed them, what were their responsibilities? 115 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: Who was on their team that might ever should have 116 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: known about this. That would be something any CEO would 117 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: want to understand and then get the facts and report 118 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: it back to the public because we deserve answers. 119 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: And by the way, just for you know, to keep 120 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 2: the record full here and the reason that I'm particularly 121 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: interested in this case, and when I saw your comments yesterday, 122 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 2: I decided to call you. Justin Silverman is the executive 123 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 2: director of what's called the New England First Amendment Coalition, 124 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 2: and he is quoted in the Global article is saying 125 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 2: the lack of transparency around Cook's hiring hurts public trust. 126 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 2: A little bit of an understatement there, but it's good 127 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 2: that he made it. He added, quote the danger of 128 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 2: not releasing information and being secretive unquote is that the 129 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 2: public is left quote with their own suspicions about what 130 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 2: happened unquote, which may or may not be true. 131 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 3: We are all left in the dark with a. 132 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 2: Lot of questions that frankly cast a shadow on the 133 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 2: Governor's office and the way it is operating. 134 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: Again, all that's really well said, that's exactly the case. Yeah, 135 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: and I will say what I was gonna say. But 136 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: by the way, shortly before this happened, I think Governor 137 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,239 Speaker 1: Healy lost her sixth cabinet secretary out of eleven yes, 138 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: And so we looked at that and said, okay, it 139 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: seems to me there is management and leadership dysfunction from 140 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: top to bottom. There's a big turnover at the very 141 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:50,679 Speaker 1: senior ranks. Any have this, this example happening, it's still 142 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: senior ranks. I'll be a little bit less senior. It 143 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: just it just feels like it's not a well done machine, 144 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: to say the least, and the one of the most 145 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: importantly the leader needs to do is build a strong 146 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: team around them, and this governor has not done that. 147 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 2: By the way, that sixth cabinet member was a Secretary 148 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 2: of Transportation, Monica Tibbet's nut, who I think resigned more important, 149 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 2: mostly because of how messed up the mass Turnpike Plaza deals. Right, yeah, 150 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 2: I mean that is a conundrum that is defines the 151 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 2: word conundrum. Bodily knows what happened there. Mike Kennely, let's 152 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 2: take a break. We're going to take a quick break here. 153 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 2: We have full lines. We'll get to listeners and see 154 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 2: what questions they might have or what comments they might 155 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,839 Speaker 2: want to make. We called the governor's office, or I 156 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 2: should say my producer, Marita aka Lady Lightning, called the 157 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 2: governor's office today and left a message, and we have 158 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 2: not heard that the governor is welcome any night at 159 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 2: her choosing to come on and talk about this case 160 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 2: and answer questions not only from myself but from nightside listeners, 161 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 2: which is what Mike Kaneely is about to do on 162 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 2: the other side of the break. The numbers are six one, seven, two, four, 163 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 2: ten thirty Write that down or six one, seven, nine 164 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 2: three one. Those lines are full, but we'll get back 165 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 2: to you. We'll get back and we'll go right to 166 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 2: phone calls back with Mike Kaneely and talking about this 167 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 2: high profile arrest. This is not a guy you know 168 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 2: who was arrested for a small amount I mean eight 169 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:32,479 Speaker 2: kilos of cocaine. 170 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 1: I mean, that's not a small aout. 171 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 3: That that's a lot of Peruvian marching powder. 172 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 2: Let me tell you. We'll be right back on Night Side. 173 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio. 174 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 2: Mike Knely, I'm ready to go to the phone calls, 175 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 2: and I think we've got a lot of listeners who 176 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 2: want to talk to you as well. 177 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 3: So let's do it. 178 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 2: Let's let's strike up the band as we say. Let 179 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 2: me go first off to Lisa in Bill Ricca. Lisa, 180 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 2: appreciate you calling you and your own with Mike. Kanneely's 181 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 2: a candidate for governor and he feels that this administration 182 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 2: is not nearly as transparent as they promised to be. 183 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 4: All right, so I have Mike. 184 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 2: Now you down there because you're going to be confused 185 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 2: with the radio one of the background. 186 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 5: Lisa, go ahead, Okay, all right. 187 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 4: So my question is for Mike that it's I guess 188 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 4: there would be considered a public safety question. How would 189 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 4: your administration cooperate with ICE to deport criminal illegal immigrants. 190 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: I appreciate the question, but the first part of the 191 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: answers of my administration would cooperate with ICE. You need to, Okay, 192 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: there was a Supreme Court there was a Supreme Court 193 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: decision here eight years ago called the One Decision which 194 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: said that we need a new law for local state 195 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 1: and county law enforcement to cooperate with ICE. And I 196 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: would seek the passage of that law and have local 197 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: state and county law enforcement work with ICE to get 198 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: criminals out of our streets, opera streets, out of our state. Period. 199 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 1: It has to happen. 200 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 4: Yes, definitely agree on that. 201 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 2: Okay, Lisa, have you got another question to go ahead? 202 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 2: If not, I'll let you go. Thank you very much 203 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 2: for calling. 204 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 4: Nope, that's the only question I have. Thank you very much, 205 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 4: Mike for taking my question. 206 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 3: Is that Is that your most important issue? Lisa? Obviously? Okay, great, 207 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 3: thank you, if you appreciate again. 208 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: Could I add on a little bit. It's a really 209 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 1: it's a really important issue, and it's one that really 210 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 1: calls over for just a common sense solution or I 211 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: think if you talk to most people around Massachusetts, they 212 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: don't want to see criminals in our midst and on 213 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: our streets and in our state. And there's a pathway 214 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: to work with ICE to get the criminals out of 215 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: our state. 216 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 3: And how would you do that? How would you do that? 217 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, we've we've got to get this, We've 218 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: got to get a law pass that allows local and 219 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: state law enforcement to work with ICE. But it requires 220 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: the governor to champion that law, I think. And and 221 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: instead you have the governor and some mayors saying they 222 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: don't want to work with ICE. Well, guess what they're 223 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: getting an outcome they don't want, which is a less 224 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: targeted approach to getting criminals out of our state. And 225 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: so I think what people want is a more targeted approach, 226 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: and we can have that if we have a common 227 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: sense reform. But it requires people, frankly, to get out 228 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: of their ideological box, like as I'm the governor and 229 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: the mayor of Boston and actually commit to a common 230 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: sense reform and get it done. That would make us 231 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 1: all safer. And I wish they would do that. I 232 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: would certainly champion that when I'm governor. 233 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, tell you. 234 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 2: I think the Trump administration has made a mistake in 235 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 2: that as they go into different communities, you focus on 236 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 2: the bad guys and let us know who. 237 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 3: Have been arrested and who have been deported. 238 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 2: And I think when you have one mistake, or you 239 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 2: grab a high school kid, or you grab the sister 240 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 2: in law of your press secretary in Washington and somehow, Yeah, 241 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 2: it's like you there's always going to be obviously you 242 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 2: got to do it legally, but you got. 243 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 3: To do it a swant do it, swant you do. 244 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: This is a really important point. I'd point people to 245 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: an article in the Globe of maybe a couple of 246 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: months ago, and they quote of the Director of Ice 247 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: saying that basically saying people don't like when we go 248 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: into the community and start grabbing people. And he said, 249 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: we'd prefer not to do business that way. We'd rather 250 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: have a targeted approach, but that requires local and state cooperation. 251 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: And so But to hear the Director of Ice say 252 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,119 Speaker 1: what they want as a targeted approach, but the need cooperation, 253 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: I think that's all we need to hear to say, Look, 254 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 1: there's an outcome here that ought to satisfy everybody, and 255 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: let's be pragmatic about it and get it done. 256 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, let's keep Roland here. Going to go to 257 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 2: Elizabeth in Dorchester. Elizabeth, you were next on nice side 258 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 2: with Republican candidate for governor, Mike kneely talking about the 259 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 2: lack of transparency from his perspective of the healthy administration. 260 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 5: Time, Mike, this is Elizabeth. 261 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 6: I have a question for you. 262 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 5: With Massachusetts being mainly Democratic, how do you plan to 263 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 5: win over books is across the state. 264 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate the question was, but you do it 265 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: partially by what I'm doing now, which is traveling all 266 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: over the state. I think next week we'll have my 267 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: one hundred public events since I announce my campaign for 268 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: governor back in April. So it requires getting out there 269 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: and listening and learning and talking with the people about 270 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: their issues, their needs, and their opportunities. And I'm convinced 271 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: that we are a strong majority of pragmatic and common 272 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: sense state and the issues I'm running on and are 273 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: on greater affordability, better economic opportunity, better schools, I'm more 274 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: accountable government. I think people across the political structum want 275 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: those things. And that's how I'm going to run my campaign, 276 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: how I believe I'm going to win, and certainly how 277 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to govern government based on pragmatism and listening 278 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: to the people. That's what has to get done. And 279 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: it gets back to this is your transparency too. You 280 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: can't build support for your policies unless you're open and 281 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: honest with the people. And I can't believe the lack 282 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: of transparency coming out of the healthy administration and out 283 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: of the legislature. And so if you want people to support, 284 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: you have to listen to them and treat them like 285 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: adults and be open and honest and transparent. And whether 286 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: it's this incident in Springfield or lots of other things 287 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: that happen over the course of time, we're not getting 288 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: the respect we deserve from our leaders on Peaking Hill, 289 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: and therefore it makes it hard for them to get 290 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: things done. And that I would govern in a very 291 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: very different manner. 292 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 3: Thank you, Elizabeth, good questions. 293 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 2: Appreciate it, Thank you, Thank you. Let me keep going 294 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 2: to go to Mark down in the self true and Braintree. 295 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 2: Mark you next with Mike Grettahead. 296 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell those guys quiet down in the background, 297 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 3: sorry about that. 298 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. 299 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 2: If they're watching the Bruins, the Bruins will lose it 300 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 2: five to two, so they copy watching. 301 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 3: I don't go to market. Feel free, Mark speak right up. 302 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 6: Gretta had sir, awesome, Thank you so much. Quick question, 303 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 6: was you know, given that the people of Massachusetts voted 304 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 6: for an of the legislature, I'm curious, can you believe 305 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 6: that they need to be audited. 306 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: I believe they do. Look, I believe it in the 307 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: sense that I've voted for that, and I'm a top 308 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: I was a top donor to the campaign for the 309 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: Bawet question, So individually, I believe it. But more importantly, 310 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: seventy two percent of the people voted for it. And 311 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: if seventy two percent of the people voted for something, 312 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: it has to happen. And that's that's that's the way 313 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: the game is played to those are the rules. And 314 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: again it gets doten the types of the sort of 315 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: transparency and accountability. What is the message to the people 316 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,119 Speaker 1: of the state when you've got a governor not providing, 317 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: not providing answers on key questions, and you've got a 318 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: legislature define the will of the people, that in the 319 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: aggregate is a very negative picture and a very negative 320 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: posture towards the people on behalf of the leaders on 321 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: Beacon Hill. So that audit has to happen. And I 322 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: think it's remarkable that the legislative leadership is basically saying 323 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: we don't care what the people say. The attorney general, 324 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: who could and should be suing the legislature to make 325 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: it happen, refuses to do that, and the governor has 326 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: stayed silent on it. And so again, I think the 327 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 1: issue started the discussion with around Springfield and this issue 328 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 1: as well. It speaks to a lack of respect for 329 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 1: the people on behalf of our state government leaders, and 330 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: that will change when I'm governor. 331 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 3: By the way, Mark, I just want to put in perspective. 332 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 2: I believe that the most lopsided presidential election in the 333 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 2: last I don't know fifty years was when Ronald Reagan 334 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 2: beat Walter Mondale. He won forty nine of the fifty states, Mondale, Caerry, Minnesota, 335 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 2: his home state, and the district of Columbia. Reagan had 336 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 2: fifty nine percent of the vote in what was considered 337 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 2: a presidential landslide. 338 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 3: He was just. 339 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 2: Elected with a little over fifty percent of the vote, 340 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 2: which he calls a mandate. This was seventy two percent 341 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 2: that the legislature effect if if Reigan's was a landslide 342 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 2: and Trump's was a mandate, what do you call seventy 343 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 2: two percent? I mean it's unbelievable that that you have 344 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 2: an attorney general who is trying to stop it, you 345 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 2: have a governor who's been silent. The only person fighting 346 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 2: up there, God bless her is the state auditor, a Democrat, 347 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 2: Diana Desauglio. But someone who's who's actually representing the people. 348 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: I'll give you a quick funny and to the auditor, 349 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: it has another ballot question around subject subjecting the governor's 350 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: office and the legislatures of the public records laws we 351 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: just talked about. And she held a rally last month 352 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: on the steps of the state House to talk about this. 353 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 1: And there are a number of legislators in attendance at 354 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: the rally. I guess which party they all belong to. 355 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 2: I only have one guess, right, So I think it 356 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 2: began with a letter R if I'm. 357 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: Not I was there as well. I joke it was 358 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: a Republican caucus meeting. It's like, come on vote. This 359 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: is basic transparency and basic respect for the voters. 360 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 2: What you're talking about tonight, Hey, Mark and Braintree, great questions, 361 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 2: Thank you, sir, appreciate your call. We have to take 362 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 2: a news break at the bottom of the hour. And 363 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 2: by the way, I'm just following that race in Tennessee 364 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 2: which has uh has has drawn a lot of attention, 365 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 2: and it's a congressional race and it's uh, it's. 366 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 3: It's it's a close race. 367 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 2: The Republican is up with about eighty three percent of 368 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 2: the votes counted. He's up by about six thousand votes 369 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 2: over a very radical Democrat. How she can run in 370 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 2: the state of Tennessee is beyond me. But that shows 371 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 2: the Republicans better get their message back together here, Mike, 372 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 2: because for this guy, uh, you know, in Mark Green's 373 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 2: district in Tennessee to be winning, but winning, you know, 374 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 2: not by a big margin. Trump carried the district by 375 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 2: twenty two points. This guy is up at this point 376 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 2: by about four points. 377 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 7: Wow. 378 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a little bit of a Canaryann coal mine. 379 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 2: If you get my drift, Republicans better start messaging a 380 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 2: little bit. Better take a break. Here's the news at 381 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 2: the bottom of the hour, back with my guest Mike Kaneely, 382 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 2: Republican candidate for governor, and we have full phone lines, 383 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 2: which is always great. Great to see there's enthusiasm. Mirror 384 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 2: coming back on Nightside. 385 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio. 386 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 2: We're talking with Mike Kanely. He's a Republican candidate for governor. 387 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 2: I'm talking about what he perceives as a lack of 388 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 2: transparency in the corner office. We did invite the governor 389 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 2: to join us, and she's welcome here any night of 390 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 2: her choosing at this nine o'clock hour to talk about 391 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 2: this case or to talk about transparency in general. Let's 392 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 2: keep rolling. You're going to go to Caroline or Carolyn. 393 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 2: I'm not Caroline, I guess in Holden, Hey, Caroline, how 394 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 2: are you hi? 395 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 6: Hi? 396 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 8: Yes, it's Caroline. 397 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 6: Hi, Mike. 398 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 8: I wasn't clothing And something very distressing. The governor has 399 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 8: defunded our high school because of the MBTA Communities Act, 400 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 8: and I was just wondering how you and your administration 401 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 8: would stop the weaponization of the MBTA Communities Act. 402 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: Well, I would stop at day one. It's not appropriate. 403 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: It reflects a lack of respect for local control. It's 404 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,959 Speaker 1: not how you get things done here in Massachusetts. And 405 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: the idea that she's going to try to defund schools 406 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: to force a housing policy in a town that the 407 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: town may not want is just entirely inappropriate in any 408 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: political context, particularly in Massachusetts where local control really matters. 409 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: It's been state lawyer here for over one hundred years 410 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 1: that easier of our three and fifty one cities and 411 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: towns get to call their own shots on these things. 412 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: And while there is this law out there, you don't 413 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: have to reponize it. You have to work collaborative cities 414 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 1: in towns. 415 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 3: Mike, Mike, let me ask you a question. 416 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 2: That law many people don't realize was passed by the 417 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 2: Baker administration. Were you involved in that? Were you aware 418 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 2: that was going on at the time. Well, well, Charlie 419 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 2: Baker was governor. 420 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it was passed by the Baker administration, 421 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: Dan was. It was passed by the legislature during the 422 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 1: Banker administry. 423 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 2: And signed in a low and signed into a lot 424 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 2: by the who Who who actually came up with the idea? 425 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 3: Who? I mean? I don't assume that. 426 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: That's a really good question. Yeah, entirely the creation of 427 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: the legislature. They developed it, they wrote it, they passed 428 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: it all completely on their own, no involvement from the 429 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: Baker administration. We played no role in crafting it, no 430 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: role and advocating for it never And they passed it 431 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty three to four, and when when 432 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: it landed with us, we said, okay, well, you know 433 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: we don't like mandates. Let's make this as flexible as 434 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: possible for our cities in towns. And that's what we did. 435 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: And then we left office and Governor Heally came into office, 436 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: as did Attorney General Campbell, and they weaponized this. And 437 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 1: this example about the grants of schools is a really 438 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: important example. Governor Heally on our own added to this 439 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: list of grants. The towns wouldn't get added this, this 440 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: school program to it. It's not how to get things 441 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: done around here. And so they took what was a 442 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: flexible tool for cities and towns that we left them 443 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: with and they weaponized it. But it's important. But your 444 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: continued questions and important one. This is entirely the creation 445 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: of the legislature. 446 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously Baker, a veto by Baker would have been 447 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 2: not certainly over overridden at four. 448 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 3: That's right. 449 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 2: Sounds a little authoritarian to me, Mike, I don't know. 450 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 2: It probably does to Carolina as well. 451 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: I think we have a run I think we have 452 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: a running free here Dan around transparentcy, accountability, respect, for 453 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: the will of the voters, mandates, lawsuits, threats. This is 454 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: not the kind of accountable trends, parent, effective government we 455 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: need that respects us And we've touched on a number 456 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: of themes here. They all kind of tie together in 457 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: my view. 458 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, Caroline, thank you for bringing it up. 459 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 2: And I did a number of shows with communities Shrewsbury. 460 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 2: There were Milton Winthrop communities that stood with holding and 461 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 2: I hope you stay. I hope you hang tough because 462 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 2: I'm a believer in, you know, local zoning ordinances and 463 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 2: communities being able to maintain their characters. So you please 464 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 2: continue to listen to Nightside and we will, we will. 465 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 2: We will stay on this as time goes on. And 466 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 2: I'll do something on Holden if you want, If you 467 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 2: want to take my direct number from Rob, we could 468 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 2: set something up with whoever is the leader of the 469 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 2: group in Holden and bring them in and talk about 470 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 2: it if you'd like. 471 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: I'm also a big believer in I'm also a big 472 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: believer in educating our kids, I mean making the kids. 473 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, it's just like we're going to 474 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: make the kids suffer for the sake of housing policy. 475 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: Give me a break. That's not appropriate, Carolin. 476 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 3: Feel free. 477 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:08,959 Speaker 2: Rob will give you my direct line and you can 478 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 2: call me if you like, no obligation, but if you 479 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 2: like some help, you let me know. Okay, thank you 480 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 2: so much. Thank you. Don't hang up, Robil take your call. 481 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 2: Let me talk to Daniel in Boston. Daniel, you were 482 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 2: next on Nightside. Great first name, Daniel. Go right ahead, 483 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 2: you're on with Mike Kenning. 484 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 5: I appreciate that. Good evening, gentlemen. I had a question 485 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 5: here and it's kind of been frustrating for me because 486 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 5: I'm a going owner myself, and honestly, Chapter thirty five 487 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 5: has been a nightmare for me, and also I think 488 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 5: for the City of Massachusetts in general, because it just 489 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 5: creates a lot of confusion. So I just wanted to 490 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 5: get your position on the Second Amendment here and on 491 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 5: Chapter thirty I want. 492 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,479 Speaker 1: I appreciate the question. I've been clear about this from 493 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: the earliest days of my campaign. I am for the 494 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: Second Amendment and I am for the repeal of Chapter 495 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: one thirty five. And I've been on record, and that 496 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: said from the beginning we already have I'm on the 497 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 1: strictness is on the strictest gun laws in the country 498 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: of Massachusetts. And so I don't like the law Chapter 499 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: one thirty five. I really don't like the way it 500 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 1: was implemented. And I'm going to come back to our 501 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: theme where we started the discussion with around respect for 502 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 1: the voters and government accountability. The law was passed and 503 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: a bunch of folks gathered signatures to put it on 504 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 1: the ballot, and Governor Heally sort of preempted that process 505 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: and declared something called an emergency preamble, and which made 506 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: the law effective at that moment. And now, Dan, I've 507 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 1: been studying following government and politics for a long time. 508 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: I never heard the term emergency preamble until this one. 509 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: But it was a way again to circumvent the will 510 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: of the voters and get what she wanted, which again 511 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: is not how those games should be played. So I'm 512 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,479 Speaker 1: for the second Amendment. I'm for the repeal of one 513 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: thirty five, and I hope that happens this year here 514 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: on the ballot. 515 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 5: Hope that answers your. 516 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 2: Question, Hope that helps you question. Daniel, appreciate your call, 517 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Thank you every good night. Let's 518 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 2: keep rolling here. The only line that is now still 519 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 2: we have one line that's finally opened up. Six six 520 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 2: one six, one, seven, nine one, ten thirty. Let me 521 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 2: get one more in here before the break. Justin is 522 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 2: in Waltham. Hey, Justin, welcome next on Nightside. 523 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 9: Hey, thank you for taking my call. So we've all 524 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 9: heard the soundbits of Mara Helly bragging about shutting down 525 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 9: two gas pipelines, and then now she's on the record 526 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 9: saying that none of that ever happened. What's your take 527 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:48,199 Speaker 9: on this backpedaling? My take again is that she's not 528 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 9: respecting the people and not respecting the voters. This is 529 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 9: on video three years ago where she said, remember I 530 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 9: shut down two natural gas pipelines, and then recently she 531 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,959 Speaker 9: said she's always been a favor of more supply and 532 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 9: never tried to block more energy supply coming into the state. 533 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 9: And again, you have to treat the voters like adults. 534 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 9: And it's obvious she said that three years ago, and 535 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 9: you can't discloss over it. And so again back to 536 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 9: our theme about accountability and transparency. This is another great example. 537 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 9: She made a statement three years ago which clearly conflicts. 538 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 9: Is what you say now, just explain the conflict, but 539 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 9: to just gloss over it and ask us to pretend 540 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 9: what she said three years ago never happened. I think 541 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 9: it reflects a fundamental lack of respect for the voters, 542 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 9: and that is again, it is not how one should 543 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 9: conduct one's self in public life. You should listen to 544 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 9: the voters, You should treat them with respect, and please 545 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 9: just just treat us like adults. If there's a logical. 546 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: Explanation why she said something three years ago, she doesn't believe, now, 547 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: just come out and explain it to us. But I 548 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: believe what she meant three years ago, and she obviously 549 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: took pride in it reflects a fundamentally poor energy policy. 550 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,479 Speaker 1: In fact, I don't think she has an energy policy. 551 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: I think she has a climate agenda which is driving 552 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: up the cost of our energy. And so it reflects 553 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,719 Speaker 1: bad policy and reflects a lack of accountability and lack 554 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: of respect for the voters who clearly know what she 555 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: said three years ago, and she ought a disaccount for that. 556 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 3: Great question. 557 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 2: Justin appreciate you calling, thank you, have a great night. 558 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 2: We'll take a quick drink of trying to get everybody 559 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 2: in Connor, uh, Gianna, Elaine and Steve. I'm gonna try 560 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 2: my darness to get you all in. So we'll be 561 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 2: right back on Nightside after a very quick break here 562 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 2: with our final segment coming up with Republican candidate for 563 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 2: governor Mike Kneely. You're on Night Side with Dan Ray 564 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 2: on you Boston's News Radio. All right, back to full lines. 565 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 2: We're gonna try to get everybody and it's going to 566 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 2: take a while. Let's go to Connor and Wakefield. Connor 567 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 2: next on Nice Side with Mike Kennely, Republican candidate for governor. 568 00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: Hi. 569 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 7: Dan, I Mike, Hope you guys are doing well. 570 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm seeing great. 571 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 7: My question for you, Mike is that I know you've 572 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 7: got a background in education reform, and I've noticed that 573 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 7: over the past few years in Massachusetts there's been a 574 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 7: downtrend in student scores really across the board. So I'm 575 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 7: wondering what some of your ideas could be to really 576 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,959 Speaker 7: reverse that into the more positive direction. 577 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: I appreciate the question. It's a really really important question, 578 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,479 Speaker 1: and again, I think it does reflect something about our 579 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: government today. Whether they're happy to talk about the fact 580 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: that Massachusetts is number one in public education, which is 581 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: still technically true on the national assessment, but what our 582 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: leaders in Beacon Hill don't want to own up to 583 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: is the fact that our kids' scores, our kids' mass 584 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: scores have declined since twenty thirteen, their reading scores of 585 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: the client since twenty eleven, and so we're in a 586 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: downward trajectory here in education in our state. And only 587 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: forty percent of our kids on average can read or 588 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: do math at grade level across the entire state, despite 589 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: spending of dollars year in education. And we're not number one, 590 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: we're number sixth in fourth grade reading them on the 591 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: fifty states, behind Mississippi. So we get real work to 592 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: do an education, And this I think speaks to a 593 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: complacency on the part of our leaders on Beacon Will 594 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: want to talk about the fact that we're still nominally 595 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: number one. One of those warning signs all over the place. Now, 596 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: my first job in public service was up in Lawrence 597 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: on the turnaround of the public school district, and we 598 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: did things like cut the size of the biocracy by 599 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: forty percent to put the dollars in the classroom. I 600 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: introduced a whole set of innovative, new kind of data 601 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: driven instruction programs to the kids. Really brought the parents 602 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: and teachers and community members together. We brought more enrichment programs, 603 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: arts and sports back into the curriculum. We lengthened the 604 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: school day. We gave our kids more time to learn. 605 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: We turned over about half the school principles. We did 606 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: a lot of things, and you got to have you 607 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: got to approach the problem with that kind of urgency 608 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: and innovation and fiscal responsibility. That's what it demands. We've 609 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: got now a very complacent approach. And for the last 610 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: dozen years, I'd argue public education in Massachusetts has been 611 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: lower standards, less accountability, less innovation, less choice. But we're 612 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: spending a lot more for it, and so we got 613 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: to look at how those dollars are being spent. We 614 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: got we got to put the kids first and all 615 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: this and just approach you with a whole different sense 616 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: of urgency and innovation. And that's what I want to 617 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: do as governor. 618 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 2: All right, Colin, appreciate it. I got four other calls. 619 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 2: We're going to try to get in here. Thank you 620 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 2: so much, great, appreciate it. You have a great name. 621 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 2: Let me go to Gianna Gianna in Winthrop. Hi, Gianna, 622 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 2: You're next on Nice that with Mike Kenneally, Go ahead. 623 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 10: Gianna, mister Kennely, I really appreciate you touching the fact 624 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 10: on the three A and went. We just voted out 625 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 10: basically one third of our town council because here in 626 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 10: winth rear very anti three A. However, my question in 627 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 10: regard to our everizing energy dells. I heard you speak 628 00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 10: about more heally, not being transparent and ragging as we 629 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 10: all know very famously about killing two pipelines. But what 630 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 10: is your plan to bring down our bills because they 631 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 10: truly are out of control. 632 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: It's a great question. I answered that a couple of ways. First, 633 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: I've been saying for a long time now that in 634 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: any market, the laws applying demand is undefeated. If you 635 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: want lower price, you need more supply. And so when 636 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: you do with the governor did years ago, which is 637 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: shut off supply, that guarantees are going to have rising price. 638 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: So I would try to get those pipelines built. I 639 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: would try to bring in more of all types of 640 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: energy into our state. That'd be one thing. The second 641 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: is we have to get these charges off our bill 642 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: that are meant to facilitate a so called energy transition. 643 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: I call them the green gimmicks. These charges pile up 644 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: on our bill, solar panel charges and things like that. 645 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: They're they're basically running an energy climate agenda through your 646 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 1: utility bill, and that's not appropriate. So we've got high 647 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: energy costs to begin with, and a lot of policy 648 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: driven charges on top of that. Now I called some 649 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: weeks to go for full evaluation all of our all 650 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: of our green energy, all of our climate spending, and 651 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: what are we getting for those programs? But I think 652 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 1: we have now. I think we're the third highest and 653 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: energy costs among the fifty states, and it's hurting our consumers, 654 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: it's hurting our small businesses. But we need a much 655 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: different approach, which is a much more supply oriented approach 656 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 1: and getting these charges off our bills. That's the cause 657 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,959 Speaker 1: of our high energy costs, and it really is making 658 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: our economy less competitive and it's making it very hard 659 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: for people are afford to live here. We need a 660 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 1: much more pragmatic approach. 661 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 2: Do you want to say that to my friend? This 662 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 2: is Dan Ray Jeff Turco, who does a great job 663 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,240 Speaker 2: representing you folks in Winthrop. 664 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:45,280 Speaker 10: He is great, certainly, well, thank. 665 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 3: You, thanks, thank you soon, thank you. Let's try to 666 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,720 Speaker 3: get at least one more in maybe maybe a couple. 667 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 3: We'll see if we what we can do here. Let 668 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 3: me go to Elaine in Norfolk. 669 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 2: Elaine, you were next on Nightside with Mike Kanely, Republican candidate. 670 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 3: For governor. 671 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 11: And him my thanks for taking my call. Listen, I'm 672 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:10,879 Speaker 11: concerned with people with developmental disabilities. Are you familiar with 673 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 11: the Rensom Developmental Center and the Hogan Regional Center by chance. 674 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: I'm actually not not, but I tell me more about it. 675 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:25,879 Speaker 11: Well, there were six facilities like that in the state 676 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 11: of Massachusetts. Four of them have been shut down and 677 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 11: sold off. There are two remaining. One is in rent Them, 678 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 11: which is the next town over from Norfolk, and the 679 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 11: other one is in Hogan. 680 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 2: Is in. 681 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 11: I can't think of it, off to shop my head anyway. 682 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 11: Rentum has got four hundred acres of land right now. 683 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 11: People I'm fortunately, the average age is about seventy three. 684 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 11: People are dying off by attrition, and I'm afraid that 685 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 11: eventually that facility is going to be closed and sold off. Myself, 686 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 11: lots of families along with me. I have a lot 687 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 11: of groups that are with us as well. 688 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 2: Elane, you got it. I'm running out of time, Elaine. 689 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 2: I know this is a complicated question, but get to it. 690 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 2: Please go go ahead. 691 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 11: I just want to know you were Can you do 692 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 11: anything with the Department of the d DS, Department of 693 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 11: Social Services, Department of Developmental Delays and just try to 694 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 11: keep those properties open for people with disabilities, keep them 695 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 11: held in perpetuity for people to set I have. 696 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,399 Speaker 2: A quick answer, Mike, unfortunately. Please thank you very much 697 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 2: for the question, Elaine. Go ahead, Mike, give her an 698 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 2: I answer, Elaine. 699 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 1: We we'll look into it. I always try to be 700 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: honest about an issue I don't know much about. That's 701 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: one on them both. Let us take a look at that. 702 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 2: One can make a suggestion, Elaine, if you don't mind, 703 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 2: let me make a suggestion to you, Mike. Why don't 704 00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 2: we leave Elaine's number with Rob and give you her 705 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 2: number and someone from your staff can call her and 706 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 2: get more of this information. Fair enough, I would like 707 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 2: to thank you. Don't hang up, Rob. I'm going to 708 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 2: try to get one more in. Let's see what I 709 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 2: can do real quickly. Uh, Steve and Franklin. Steve, I'm 710 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 2: going to give you a minute, and that's it. What 711 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 2: do you what would you like to say to Mike Kneely, Dan. 712 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 12: Thanks for taking my call. Uh. I went to that 713 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 12: cracker barrel fire in Wrentham and they had the Midway 714 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:36,399 Speaker 12: Millise band play. There was even a photographer there, and 715 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 12: they raised so much money for the Wrentham State School 716 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 12: and they had the circus there. 717 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 3: Okay, what what? What? How does this relate to my maybe. 718 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 12: Theytion best buddies? 719 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 3: Okay, how does this relate to my guest. 720 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:54,280 Speaker 12: Steve Oh advocate more for handicapped people? 721 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,959 Speaker 3: Okay, go ahead, you want to comment, Thank you, Steve. 722 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 1: Go ahead, Mike No, I certainly want to do that. 723 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: I think a big part of the role of governors 724 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 1: to make sure all of our people, all of our communities, 725 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 1: reach their full potential. So I will certainly be committed 726 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: to that absolutely. 727 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 3: All right, Mike your website. 728 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 2: If folks would like what they've heard tonight, would like 729 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 2: to get in touch with you, how did they. 730 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 1: Get appreciate the question? Go to Mike Kinneely dot com. 731 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 1: It's two ends and one olt got a lot of 732 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 1: information about myself and my track record, my experience and 733 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 1: my view of the issues, which has now been informed 734 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,879 Speaker 1: by a lot of travel around the state, a lot 735 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: of conversations, so please please take a look, please get involved. 736 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:32,879 Speaker 1: Love to every help. 737 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 2: CONNELI, thank you, thank you very much again, Governor Healey, 738 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 2: you have an open invitation any night we can talk 739 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 2: about these subjects as well as others. 740 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 3: Mike Connely, thank you very much. 741 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:44,839 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Dan. 742 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 3: Great to be with you and welcome to the calls 743 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:46,919 Speaker 3: of the line. 744 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 2: Priscilla, I'm sorry called late. We'll get you in next time, 745 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 2: I promise. Okay, back on night side, right after the 746 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:52,839 Speaker 2: news at the top of the hour.