1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to the beginning of my favorite hour radio. We 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: get to hear from Congressman Thomas Massey you, followed by 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: Judge Ennapolitano, who may very well be listening right now. 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: Joe Strecker gave him the heads up that Congressman Massey 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: you'd be on the program right now. Welcome back, my friend. 6 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure having you on the show. 7 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: Great to be on. I'd rather be in DC, but 8 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 2: Speaker Johnston doesn't want us to come back. 9 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I I you'd rather be in DC. You're not 10 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: in d C, which you anticipated one of what was 11 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: going to be one of my questions about this shut down. Yes, 12 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: we're in the middle of a shutdown. No, the Democrats 13 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: will not agree to continuing to operate at the levels 14 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: that they created last year. It's the Biden level spending 15 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: that the Republicans passed over your objection, and I understand 16 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 1: that with the continuing resolution, they can't complain about cuts, 17 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: the governor anything. They're just trying to keep it open 18 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: and keep us hostage. Although none of my listening audience 19 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: feels hostage. Congressman Massy the oldest hostage so they can 20 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: continue COVID era premium supplements under Obama, I mean COVID's over. 21 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: They put the deadline of December of twenty twenty five 22 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: in the legislation extending these benefits. They knew this was coming, obviously. 23 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: This is a pretext shutdown for them to continue along 24 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: the path of bringing us basically medicaid for all under 25 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 1: the Obamacare umbrella. Am I on the right path? Congressrom messy? 26 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 2: Yes, let me back up before we unpack all of that. 27 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: So not only are we in a shutdown, we're in 28 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: a recess. And this is interesting because usually during a shutdown, 29 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 2: Congress is in session. 30 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: There you go. 31 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 2: But the Speaker Johnson has decided politically it's better for 32 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 2: us not to be in town now. He says, the 33 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 2: reason is he doesn't want the Democrats doing dilatory things 34 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 2: on the floor, maybe making motions or whatnot. But the 35 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 2: reality is, if he were to call us back today, 36 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 2: he would have to swear in the one hundred and 37 00:01:55,840 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 2: eighteenth signature on my Epstein petition and he could force 38 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 2: a vote on releasing the Epstein file. 39 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: Is that what this is about? 40 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 2: This is I'm calling it. Okay, it may be the 41 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 2: Schumer shut down, but it's the Epstein recess, is what 42 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 2: it is. 43 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, the way to say, Okay, we're gonna get dive 44 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: to more of the details on this one. But my 45 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: question to you is going to be, and I just 46 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: was putting the recess reality in the back of my mind, 47 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: if you if the government shut down, that doesn't stop 48 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: you or the Senate from working on the twelve appropriations bills, 49 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: which is the reason you're doing the CR to keep 50 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: the government open until the middle of November, because the 51 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: way we're doing it right now, it's going to be 52 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: shut down up until the deadline that's in the CR. 53 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 2: You can't open the government back down if Congress shut 54 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 2: it down and Congress is not in session. So it's 55 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 2: I mean, I understand, I understand his excuse, but I 56 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: think it's it's just an excuse, and I think we 57 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 2: should be in Washington, d C. In the event that 58 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 2: the Senate does come to some agreement, then the House 59 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 2: could act immediately. But he's trying to basically jam the 60 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 2: Senate because the House already passed the CR and then 61 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 2: the Senate's sitting there and they're just having new votes 62 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,519 Speaker 2: on that same CR to try to get more Democrats 63 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: to fold. People ask me when will the shutdown end, 64 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 2: and I will tell you it ends the way it 65 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 2: always ends. It ends when one side's polling shows that 66 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 2: they're taking a butt whipping in public opinion, and then 67 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 2: they come to the table and give in. So right now, 68 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 2: neither side has a clear indication that they're losing the 69 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 2: messaging war. So we're going to be in a shutdown 70 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 2: for a while. I believe the next big milestone is 71 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 2: the middle of this month, which is when government employees 72 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: they get paid five monthly twice a month. That is 73 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 2: going to be the big showdown there now, most not 74 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 2: well a majority of government workers are probably Democrats. I 75 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 2: know a lot of good Republicans who work for the government, 76 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: but I would say a majority of them, especially in DC, 77 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 2: are Democrats. So the interesting thing is going to be 78 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 2: when they don't get their next paycheck. Now, the reality is, 79 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 2: I don't mean to sound callous or to diminish this, 80 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: but the credit unions will give anybody who's a member 81 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: of the credit union at advance on their paycheck because 82 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 2: they know that I'm talking about the Federal credit union 83 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 2: right because they know they're going to get paid. There's 84 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: never the employees who are whether they're essential or non essential, 85 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 2: they will all get paid when the shutdown is over. 86 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 2: That's the way it's been with every shutdown. And knowing 87 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 2: that the federal credit unions will give the paycheck to 88 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 2: any federal employee, advance it without interest. 89 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: It's a safe risk. 90 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 2: But yeah, but it still makes it's still going to 91 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: be and not everybody's in a credit union, and it's 92 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 2: still going to make a talking point on the fifteenth 93 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 2: of this month when they don't get paid. But in 94 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 2: the meantime, let me remind everybody what is on the table. 95 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 2: The Republicans thought they could avoid a shutdown by completely surrendering. Okay, 96 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 2: they just passed Joe Biden's budget. That's exactly penny for penny. 97 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 2: It's Joe Biden's budget, line for line, that's what the 98 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 2: House of Representatives put on the floor. I didn't vote 99 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 2: for it, and one other Republican did not vote for it. 100 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 2: But it's still passed the House. It went to the Senate, 101 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 2: and ironically, you have people Republicans who didn't vote for 102 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 2: it when it was under Joe, when Joe Biden was president, 103 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 2: but now that Donald Trump is president, they're voting for 104 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: Joe Biden's budget. It's I'm literally one of the only 105 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 2: members of Congress who hasn't flipped their vote on this. 106 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 2: It used to be the other. 107 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: Right around, because you're a you're a fiscal hawk and 108 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: of course a constitutional purist, and there's are reasons why 109 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: you wouldn't want to extend Joe Biden's level funding, and 110 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: I understand that all day long. But from a strategy standpoint, 111 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 1: ignoring the side that you and I are both on, 112 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: it does make sense to keep that Biden level because 113 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: that satisfied the Democrats last year. And that's a wonderful 114 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: talking point when you're trying to counter there oh my god, 115 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: we're all going to die narrative that goes along with this, 116 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 1: with this shutdown in the Republican cr And. 117 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 2: Let me tell you something, just to be completely intellectually honest, 118 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 2: Joe Biden's budget because of Joe Biden's inflation. If you 119 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 2: do the same thing dollar for dollar, it's going to 120 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 2: be about five percent less than it was last year 121 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 2: because of inflation. But and so you might say, well, then, 122 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 2: Congress and Matthew, why wouldn't you be inclined to vote 123 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 2: for Joe Biden's spending levels, since inflation will reduce this 124 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 2: and solve the budget problem for you. Well, there's two reasons. One, 125 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 2: spending is policy. It's it's not that we've spent one 126 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 2: point five trillion under Joe Biden and we're going to 127 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 2: spend one point five trillion under Trump. It's that every 128 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 2: line item in there is exactly the same, including the 129 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 2: things that we cut out in DOGE. Now, the DOGE 130 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 2: cuts were only temporary, So what happens if Joe Biden's 131 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 2: budget passes again? All of the stuff we cut out 132 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 2: using DOGE goes back into the budget. So and then 133 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 2: the DEI stuff, that's all that's all going to be 134 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 2: in there. So it's number one. Spending is policy when 135 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 2: you do it line by line. If you said, well, 136 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 2: well Trump will spend exactly the same amount, diminished by inflation, 137 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 2: but we'll move it around to different priorities, I might 138 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 2: be able to get behind that. Now here's the other 139 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 2: reason I'm not for Joe Biden's budget minus the five 140 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 2: percent inflation because in the Big Beautiful Bill, which was 141 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 2: supposed to only deal with mandatory spending, they added about 142 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 2: four hundred billion dollars of discretionary spending. So they put 143 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 2: appropriations in the big bill a few months ago on 144 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 2: DOJ that's Department of Justice, Department of Homeland Security, and 145 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 2: Department of Defense. So they the Republicans have already plussed 146 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 2: up spending so that even if we passed Joe Biden's budget, 147 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 2: which is what Mike Johnson wants to do and John Dune, 148 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 2: even if we passed Joe Biden's budget, and even if 149 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 2: we can account for inflation diminishing those dollar values, they've 150 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 2: already plussed up the budget a few months ago. And 151 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 2: that's really what they won't tell you on the news. 152 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 2: That's why the Democrats are mad. They didn't get a 153 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: plus up in their line items and the usual deal 154 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 2: wink wink, nod nod in Washington, d C. Is Republicans 155 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 2: increased their spending and Democrats increased their spending, and that's 156 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 2: how you get to sixty votes in the Senate. So 157 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 2: that's why they're not voting for it. And then they're 158 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 2: making up these other medical things. Those aren't fights. If 159 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 2: the stuff expires in December, then that's when you have 160 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 2: the fight in December. They're also trying to undo the 161 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 2: fraud fixes that we put in the big beautiful bill 162 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 2: to keep illegals from getting Medicaid and whatnot. The Democrats 163 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 2: are trying to take that back out. But that's not 164 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: the fight that you're supposed to have on these appropriations bills. 165 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 2: This should be only the twelve spending bills, and you're right, 166 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 2: we should be back in Washington working on. 167 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: Them and where they'll have another opportunity to do whatever 168 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: the hell they want by way of policy or extending 169 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: supplements for people who otherwise don't need it. Let's pause. 170 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: Bring Congressman Thomas Massey back at eight fifteen. Right now 171 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: fifty five Kerr s talk Ryan Thomas and Congressman Thomas 172 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 1: Massey Congress and Massy you suggested, and I think it's 173 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: a foregone conclusion. You are ultimately going to get your 174 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: vote on the Epstein file release. And I always like 175 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: to use this opportunity as a time to express my 176 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 1: dismay that Trump did a one to eighty. I mean, 177 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: he campaigned on releasing the stuff. A lot of Republicans 178 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: were demanding it during the Biden administration. Democrats didn't bother 179 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: uh pushing to release the documents when they had the 180 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: opportunity to do so, but now they're clamoring to do it. 181 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: I don't know what changed, honestly, no one brings it 182 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: up anymore except you this morning, for example. But once 183 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: the government shutdown is over and people return to work 184 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: and the recess is over, there's going to be a vote, 185 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 1: right yeah, And. 186 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 2: The government shutdown doesn't have to be over. This is 187 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 2: an act of Congress that doesn't require funding. We can 188 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 2: go back into session, and as soon as we do, 189 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 2: there's a congresswoman named Grihalva's who won her election two 190 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 2: weeks ago who hasn't been sworn in. This is also unprecedented, 191 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 2: the bigious thing. But we're not in. But the reality 192 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 2: is we have these pro formas sessions every four days 193 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 2: to keep the House and the Senate from going into recess. Ironically, 194 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 2: to keep President Trump from making ress appointments. I don't 195 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 2: agree with it, but that's what they do. Every four 196 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 2: days they meet, and they could swear this congresswoman in 197 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 2: on one of these recess appointments, because they did that 198 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 2: with two Republicans already this year, but the speaker's not 199 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 2: doing it. So as soon as we get back. Now, 200 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 2: this is what I'm telling you is predicated on an 201 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 2: assumption that none of my three Republican co signers can 202 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 2: be flipped by the White House, because the White House 203 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 2: is trying desperately to get either Marjorie Taylor Green, Nancy Mace, 204 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 2: or Lauren Bobert to take their names off of my petition. 205 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 2: But should they succeed in getting one of those women 206 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 2: to take their names off the petition, there's another congress 207 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 2: person who will be elected in November who will be 208 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 2: signing the discharge petition. So I don't know why they 209 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 2: keep dragging this out, whether they just keep fighting to 210 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 2: the bitter end. We should have the vote. They can 211 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 2: try to stop me in the Senate, but they do. 212 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 2: Here's the thing, Briant, they don't even want to have 213 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 2: the vote. 214 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: Well, lots of red flags waved over that one. Just 215 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: I mean, that just fuels the conspiracy theory narrative out there. 216 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: And who are we protecting on this? 217 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 2: Good? Good question, good question. So the victims lawyers have 218 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 2: indicated to me they are at least twenty men who 219 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 2: e Stein trafficked women to that they gave the names 220 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 2: to the FBI, and the FBI recorded them, memorialized that 221 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 2: in the three H two forms. So we know that 222 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 2: the FBI has at least twenty names. I think six 223 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 2: of them are billionaires, one of them is a movie producer, 224 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 2: one is a former politician, one is the current person 225 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 2: in government, one's a CEO. Like I don't know their names, 226 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 2: but these are the indication that the victims lawyers have 227 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 2: given to me. And the reason they don't put out 228 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:03,119 Speaker 2: the names is they would be sued into homelessness for defamation. 229 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 2: The government doesn't pursue any of this if they can't 230 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 2: get any of the evidence out there and the government's 231 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 2: in possession of it, So the government needs to release 232 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 2: the names. But here's what I know. I know the 233 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 2: president is trying to protect some top Republican donors and 234 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 2: friends of his in West Palm Beach, and I will 235 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 2: stand by that and go to my grave on that. 236 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: Well, that would explain it, wouldn't it. I mean that 237 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: it's not right, but it certainly would make sense as 238 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: to how he didn't why he did a one to eighty. 239 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 2: And then the other question is, well, if the president's 240 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 2: donors stand to lose in this, White and Joe Biden 241 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 2: and the Democrats pursue this when they were in power. Well, 242 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 2: it's because once you get to the billionaire class, a 243 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 2: lot of these billionaires are just members of the uniparty. 244 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 2: They give to whichever party's in power. Who's ever having 245 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 2: the best parties? How do you get to the link 246 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 2: in bedroom in the White House. So they give to 247 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 2: both parties. And I think you're going to see men 248 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 2: implicated who are friends and donors of both parties in this. 249 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 2: And then also finally, this is the conspiracy theory, but 250 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 2: there's a lot of weight to it. I introduced five 251 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 2: documents into the record in front of Cash Paatel a 252 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 2: few weeks ago in our judiciary hearing that indicate that 253 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein was working with National Intelligence Masad and the CIA. 254 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 2: And I asked, I even asked Cash Pattel, have you 255 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 2: seen the CIA file on Jeffrey Epstein? He has not so, 256 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 2: and there is one. Now, why wouldn't he go look 257 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 2: at that? 258 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: Good question? 259 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 2: Well, you know he's allowed to go see that. You 260 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 2: can't keep the director of the FBI because. 261 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: He looks at it. He's going to have to answer 262 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: your questions. He can just play ignorance. I don't want 263 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: to see it because that'll have I'll say, yeah, I 264 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: do know what's in there. Yeah, that makes sense. 265 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 2: I asked Cash Battelly, have you seen the three h 266 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 2: two forms that the FBI filled out when they interviewed 267 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 2: the victims. He's not seen them. No, he's trusting. His 268 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 2: answer to me was he trusts that the people working 269 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 2: at the FBI would have given him those names if 270 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 2: they were credible evidence. And then my question is do 271 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 2: you not think the victims are credible? Let's the Speaker 272 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 2: of the House is trying to say that he's trying 273 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 2: to protect the victims, but my legislation would redact their 274 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 2: names in anything that could be used to identify them 275 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 2: out of the files, and the victims themselves support my legislation. 276 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the big point right there. Yeah, he's making 277 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: an argument on their behalf that they don't want asserted. Wow. 278 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 2: Well, welcome to government. 279 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: No kid in CONGRESSMSSI, let me ask you a simple, 280 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: straightforward question. Since Judge Jennen Toan Andrew Napoletana is up 281 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 1: next and he's maybe listening but going to be commenting 282 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: on this is an opinion from the Office of Legal 283 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: Counsel within the Justice Department. Telling Donald Trump that he 284 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: is allowed to authorize deadly force use against weal cartel's 285 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: because they pose an eminent threat to Americans. Does a 286 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: boat fifteen hundred miles away a small boat maybe goes 287 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty knots? Is that an eminent threat to 288 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: the United States of America. 289 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 2: I know somebody who worked in the Office of Legal 290 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 2: Council under Nixon, under Reagan, and he's still alive, and 291 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 2: he's in DC, and he advises me, and he says 292 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 2: that department exists just to justify anything the President won. 293 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 2: This man's testified in front of Congress on Iran Contra, 294 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 2: like he knows that the Office of Legal Council, they 295 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 2: sit over there constructing scaffolding that can go, you know, 296 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 2: ten stories high, and it's built out of bamboo and 297 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 2: lashed together with very legal arguments, and they just rely 298 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 2: on Congress not challenging them. 299 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: Well, that's kind of the answer I expected Congress and 300 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: Thomas Massey, I appreciate the time you spoke my listeners 301 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 1: of me providing some truth in a world where we 302 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: desperately need to keep up the great work. I'll look 303 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: forward today you return from recess and start working on 304 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: the appropriation bill's Congress Massey, I'll look forward to having 305 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: you back on the show real soon. 306 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 2: Thank you, Brian. Say hi to the Judge for me. 307 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: You just did eight twenty seven fifty five kros De 308 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: talk station of the Judge entered up. Politanos Up next subject. 309 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: We're going to find out well when presidents kill, among others.