1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: How's the stream stream commencing broadcasting on a M five 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: to seventy LA Sports and streaming on the iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 2: While Friends, the longest running afternoon sports show in the city. 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 3: No congratulations necessary. All traces of Fred Rogan have been removed. 5 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: This is Petros in Money, Thank You, Thank You, hosted 6 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: by Petros Papadakas, terrible person, He's the worst, and Matt 7 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: money Smith. 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 3: The pipes, the pipes, the pipe. Don't miss an episode. 9 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 3: We're with you, Yeah, follow the. 10 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: Petros in Money Show wherever you get your podcasts. Now 11 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: Here's Petros Papadakas and Matt money Smith. 12 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 3: And it's like, I don't want to get raped by amanatee. 13 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 3: You know, you're you're, you're waiting out, you know of 14 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 3: your skiff or whatever. Every man takes the limits of 15 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 3: his own field of vision for the limits of the world. 16 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 3: It's cracking everybody, and welcome. It is another day in 17 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 3: great sports Talk. Great Sports Talk Today A Crunchy Groove 18 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 3: Thursday on the Petros and Money Show, starring our engineer, 19 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 3: Ronnie Fossio, our executive producer, the one and only Tim Kats. 20 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 3: Ronnie had to padd some stats on the way out today, 21 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 3: I don't want to I don't want to concentrate on it. Well, 22 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 3: much like Lebron James, Fred is old and sometimes he 23 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:42,199 Speaker 3: has a hard time finishing the game, and he pulls 24 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 3: the trigger early, he hits the eject button and we 25 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 3: can't get to the top of the hour. Now we 26 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 3: have to get to the top of the hour, so 27 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 3: we have to play the station. I d you know, 28 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 3: we're gonna pause for our stations to identify himself. And 29 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 3: Fred doesn't make it. He doesn't make it, Like he 30 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 3: just doesn't make it. Would be like running a marathon 31 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 3: and just collapsing ten yards ten meters before the tape. 32 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 3: And Ronnie has to swoop in and play an extra 33 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 3: because everybody wants to hear Cars for Kids one more time. 34 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 3: Ronnie has to play an extra Cards for Kids and 35 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 3: and an Amco fifty two was the target for today, Petros. 36 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: I'm sure the Cars for Kids people are pleased though. 37 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, I mean that's a great it's a great charity. 38 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 3: But anyway, when you hear like it sucks to be 39 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 3: like all ready to do the show and all happy, 40 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 3: and next thing you know, it's like Fred can't finish 41 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 3: and now you're bitter towards and then on the way 42 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 3: out he's like, hey, how are you. It's like, dude, 43 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 3: don't look at me. Finish your show. 44 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 2: Go fill up your gas tank, Fred. 45 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 3: Finish your show so I don't have to listen to 46 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 3: double a MCO. It is your show, so I don't 47 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 3: get double a MCO. Anyway, We're happy to be here together. 48 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 3: Tim kats Are, executive producer, is here. He's got a 49 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 3: frown on his face. He's got a lot to deal with, 50 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 3: but he is doing the lord's work all week long, 51 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 3: dealing with the Petrosen money show during the tour. 52 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 2: He's prous some luck shows all ciss us. 53 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 3: Everybody, k what are you talking about? What we'll tell you. 54 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 3: Matt is driving somewhere with hired musicians in a van, 55 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 3: thinking about his life as a roadie, Not his life 56 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 3: as an NFL play by play man, not his life 57 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 3: as a surfer having to make a lifter in here, 58 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 3: not his not his life as a host of great 59 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 3: sports Talk, great sports Talk, but his life as a 60 00:03:58,960 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 3: roadie on tour. 61 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 4: He's heading to your old stopping grounds, don District, Washington, 62 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 4: d C. Really yeah, maybe he's gonna text you for 63 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 4: some dinner. 64 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 3: Spots, some tips. Don, you're gonna sendhim to the old 65 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 3: Abbotts Grail. 66 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 2: I didn't spend a lot of time downtown because remember 67 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 2: we used to play in the old Cap Center. That 68 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 2: wasn't downtown d C. Where was the landover Maryland where 69 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 2: the Redskins Stadium is? You mean, so we lived out 70 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: the other way towards like Annapolis, that way over there. 71 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 3: So what if people do over there in Annapolis go 72 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 3: to the Navy games. 73 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 2: Now there's bars and stuff over there, or you go 74 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 2: up to Baltimore. 75 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 3: What happened you sat tomorrow? Drug trade? 76 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I've been to Baltimore in a while, 77 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 2: but I hear not great things me too. 78 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 3: Hashtag. Don McClain is our co host today on your 79 00:04:53,120 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 3: Southern California Toyota Dealer. Celebrity guest host Microphone is on tour, 80 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 3: and the tour he's on is the World Basketball Tour. Morgan, Gonzaga, 81 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 3: Morgan State, Washington, SCUCLA, ILLINOI don't see them all. He 82 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 3: did the sc Illinois game where USC was sacrificed at 83 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 3: the funeral pyre of the Slavic players at the university 84 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 3: of Illinois, the Balkan Five, the Balkan Five. Of course 85 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 3: we can forget them, but it's always great to have 86 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 3: Don McClain here. He is the leading scorer in the 87 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 3: history of the Pac twelve five, Cook and UCLA. He 88 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 3: is a longtime contributor to our show. There is a 89 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 3: statue of him at Lemon Park in Beautiful Seam Valley, 90 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 3: his hometown, and the next ass he kisses will be 91 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 3: the first. 92 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: Don. 93 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 3: It's great to see you. 94 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 2: Are you tired, No, great to be here a couple 95 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 2: of days off in between games. So happy to come 96 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 2: in and chop it up with you and see everyone 97 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 2: around here. 98 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 3: You're very popular, DoD. I mean you walk in to 99 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 3: say hi to Ronnie and Kevin figures and you get 100 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 3: a much different reception, so to speak. You know, not me. 101 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 3: I mean, you know I'm a different entity around here. 102 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 2: I mentioned it briefly when I talked to you guys 103 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 2: from the Sweet Cheeks Winery last week. How did that 104 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 2: go out there at the Cheeks? Fantastic? Much better than anticipate. 105 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 2: I'm not sure what I was expecting, but it was great. 106 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 2: But I mentioned quickly and I saw the guy like 107 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 2: five times. The rest of the weekend in Eugene getting 108 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: off the elevator that day before we were going there. Hey, 109 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 2: I listen to you on Petros and money and that guy. 110 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 2: I saw him at least four more times, same guy. 111 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. Did he say he must have been. 112 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 2: There for his kid goes to school there or something. 113 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 3: Did he say the same thing every time? 114 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 5: No? 115 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 2: Because the morning Because so the game was at noon 116 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 2: on Saturday, and it was like nine nine am. He's like, so, 117 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 2: what time do you have to get over there for 118 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 2: the game. I'm like, I don't know, ten fifteen. He's like, oh, okay, 119 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 2: I'll see you over there. Did you see him at 120 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 2: you did not see him. 121 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 3: At the game? No, but did your friend? Did you 122 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 3: at the bar before? 123 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? 124 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 3: Did you think of the back of your mind, this 125 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 3: guy's not credentialed. He's not going to see me, Like, 126 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 3: did you think that? Like, they're not going to have 127 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 3: to deal with it. 128 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 2: I knew I wasn't going to see him, but I 129 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 2: didn't have the heart to tell him. 130 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 3: So I'm glad you had a good time, don But 131 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 3: you've been enjoying your tour of the basketball world this year. Yeah. 132 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 2: The Big Ten is a really good league. Always is, 133 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 2: but this year it's really good. It's going to be 134 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 2: good theater coming down the home stretch here of the 135 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 2: regular season into the Big Ten Tournament. 136 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 3: Remember how we used to talk this time of year. 137 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 3: We used to say the things every you know, it's 138 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 3: a really down year for the Pac twelve. All they 139 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 3: have is Arizona, maybe Ucla. 140 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 2: It's so much different. And granted I don't go, I'm 141 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 2: going to the Big Ten Tournament. Well I went last year. 142 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 2: I'm going to get this year. 143 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 3: Are you gonna go? You're gonna go have a drink 144 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 3: with Matt Smith. We'll see. 145 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 2: But it is interesting in the difference when because I 146 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 2: only do Oregon, Washington, this Ucla, when these Big ten 147 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 2: teams come this way and how they travel, it's it's incredible, 148 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 2: it really is. Like the amount of fans, it's incredible, 149 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 2: Like Purdue, Illinois, Wisconsin, Michigan Mission, all these teams you 150 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 2: go to, like game in Seattle. The Michigan game in 151 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 2: Seattle was the first sellout at U dub in three 152 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 2: years and it was more than half Michigan fans. 153 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,719 Speaker 3: That's hard to believe. Yeah, in Seattle, which is a 154 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 3: great sports town and they love Washington basketball, but they 155 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 3: haven't been very good, as you know, and a lot 156 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 3: of these West Coast teams, the men's are having a 157 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 3: hard time in the Big Ten winning in the other 158 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 3: time zones don which is of course something we could 159 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,599 Speaker 3: all see coming. Is that about the state and the 160 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 3: fans and the home court advantage? Is it about the travel? 161 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 3: Is it about just being not as good? I think 162 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 3: it's all of that. I think you know, if you 163 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 3: talk to the coaches, they will tell you that. And 164 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 3: it is because you know, M's a good coach. He's 165 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 3: a really good coach. So's Muscleman, and so is a 166 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 3: great coach. It's so like. 167 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 2: But it is unfair if you think about it. And 168 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 2: I'm not making excuses for anybody, but if you have 169 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 2: to go that way three times, but those teams only 170 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 2: have to come this way one time. And oh, by 171 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 2: the way, they're leaving minus ten win chill to come 172 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 2: to seventy degrees, so they're happy to come this way 173 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 2: versus leaving seventy to go to minus ten win chill. 174 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 2: So it's it's imbalanced for the West Coast teams, which 175 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 2: is why I've said, and I've said it since last 176 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 2: year I don't think any of the four West Coast 177 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 2: teams will ever win the Big Ten regular season title. 178 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 3: They won't. 179 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 2: They can't unless they are just so overwhelming better than everybody. 180 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 3: Right now, they don't have that much money to pay 181 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 3: guys as much as the other. 182 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 2: Not as the Michigan's and the Illinois of the world. 183 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 2: I mean, they're in il budgets or a lot more, 184 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 2: and so you know, that's that's what it is in 185 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 2: college basketball. So you know, I don't think it's complaining, 186 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 2: it's it's stating the facts of those four teams choosing 187 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 2: to break up the Pac twelve and go to the 188 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 2: Big Ten. This is for football. It was all for 189 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 2: football that you're not going great for them either, right, 190 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 2: but this is the fallout for our decision. Is the basketball, 191 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 2: and I'm sure the baseball and the women's soccer and 192 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 2: all that stuff. It's way harder and the competition's way better, 193 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:46,719 Speaker 2: and so you're not going to have the success. And 194 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 2: I even look at like Colorado, Arizona State, Utah, they're 195 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 2: all at the bottom of the Big twelve in basketball, 196 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 2: same thing, and they don't have to travel as far. 197 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 3: It's just like the Pac twelve you know, Arizona's pretty good. Yeah, right, 198 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 3: but they got Kansas and Texas Tech, and I was 199 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 3: staying in all them in the Big twelve. It is 200 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 3: really interesting, don because I remember when I started doing 201 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 3: radio in the year two thousand and one. Two thousand 202 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 3: and two was when I started trying to do or 203 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 3: struggling to do daily radio in the city of Los Angeles, 204 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 3: and I started talking to you every week. It became 205 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 3: a fixture on the old radio show, and after a 206 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 3: couple of years I started working here. I mean, bottom line, 207 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 3: you and I have been working in college sports since 208 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 3: well you've been doing it since what the late nineties, 209 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 3: early two thousands, and I've been at it since about 210 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 3: one so it's about the same amount of time I started. 211 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 2: I retired in two thousand and two. 212 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you were sticking your nose around the media 213 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 3: stuff a little bit. Yeah, I was shuffling your nose 214 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 3: into the slop of the media. But now it's kind 215 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 3: of unrecognizable if you look back then and you look 216 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 3: at where we are now in college sports. And I'm 217 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 3: not saying it's terrible. I'm not saying it's so bad, 218 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 3: and oh my god, we lost what we had because 219 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 3: what we had was flawed and weird, and there was 220 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 3: always something going on, was a different time. Everything was 221 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 3: on regional cable most of the time, some games were 222 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 3: only on the radio, things of that nature. So as 223 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 3: far as visibility and all that, everything is so much better. 224 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 3: I mean, you go to Tulsa, every one of your 225 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 3: games is on TV, if you're playing football or women's 226 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 3: basketball or men's or whatever. But it's like, we couldn't 227 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 3: have left it up much worse, could we in the 228 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 3: last twenty five years. Not that it's our fault, but 229 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 3: following this stuff for twenty five years and just the 230 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 3: what the conversations are about, the way they've changed, how 231 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 3: it's it's uncommon to know who's on any team going 232 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 3: into every year because it changes and turns over so quickly. 233 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 3: It's crazy. How much like the reason we're in it 234 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 3: is to make money still, And I guess that makes 235 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 3: us hypocrites because now everybody's making more money and that's 236 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 3: probably a good thing. But I could have never foreseen 237 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 3: where we are doing this kind of stuff a long 238 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 3: time ago. 239 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 2: What's funny, p is I was having a conversation last night. 240 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 2: Illinois this year hired a GM, which all of I'm 241 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 2: sure every football team has a GM. 242 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 3: Now USC's GM is Chad Boden, Jim Boden, the famous 243 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 3: old Cincinnati Reds GM. Oh yeah, the Marge shot Era. 244 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:40,599 Speaker 3: That's his son. And Chad came from Notre Dame and 245 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 3: now he's at USC. 246 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 2: But I said to him, because I had never met 247 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 2: him and we were just talking, I said, it's pretty 248 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 2: crazy that here we are, in twenty twenty six in 249 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 2: every high major basketball, not football, basketball program has a GM. Like, 250 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 2: who would have ever thought that twenty years ago or 251 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 2: when we started early two thousand. He's like, well, you know, 252 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 2: it makes sense. You know, let the coaches just coach 253 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 2: and I kind of handled the roster and recruiting and all. 254 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 2: I'm like, No, the reason there's a GM position is 255 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 2: because of money and players making nil money. That's why 256 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 2: there's a GM position. Yeah, that guy used to be 257 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 2: called a recruiting court exactly, and the money he gave 258 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 2: out was illegally given exactly, yet it was still given out. 259 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: I just I can't believe that we were probably in 260 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 2: a better place in our sports in this country, college wise, 261 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 2: when the players got paid under the table, when things 262 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 2: weren't above which is so weird to say. It's kind 263 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 2: of like talking about Las. 264 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 3: Vegas, like the argument they meant made at the end 265 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 3: of the movie Casino, Like, hey, this town was a 266 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 3: lot better when the mob ran the town. Everybody knew 267 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 3: everybody's name, nobody messed around. It wasn't just a bunch 268 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 3: of drunk frat boys throwing up in a fountain. People 269 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 3: wore suits, people had dinner, people went to shows, people 270 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 3: had class. And now the corporations have taken over and 271 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 3: it's bastardized and it sucks, and it kind of feels 272 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 3: like that in a weird way. It's just crazy to think, Wow, 273 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 3: now that everything is more above board, things suck even. 274 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 2: That because in basketball pe everyone's getting paid. It used 275 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 2: to be just the top, top guys were getting paid 276 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 2: under the table. Now everyone's getting paid. And I look 277 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 2: at Dana Altman, who has been a fantastic college basketball 278 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 2: coach for years. In years, they're like nine and seventeen 279 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 2: this year, and that's unacceptable for Oregon basketball. Dana Altman 280 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 2: didn't forget how to coach. Okay, so what's in play 281 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 2: or what's at play here is that and they have 282 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 2: a lot of resources Oregon because the Nike right, so. 283 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 3: Happen. 284 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 2: So they're paying players, and this is just my opinion. 285 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 2: I don't have facts on this, but I just know 286 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 2: what I know being around it that when you start 287 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 2: getting paid, these kids don't understand that. If they got 288 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 2: five hundred thousand dollars, they think they're set, yeah, for good, 289 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 2: and they're not. 290 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 3: If you gave me a two thousand dollars. When I 291 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 3: was eighteen on the stipend game, I was Daddy Warbucks 292 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 3: for two days, right, and then on the third day 293 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 3: I was back to being Mahatma Gandhi. 294 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 2: Right. So these kids that are getting half a million dollars, 295 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 2: if the season isn't going their way, or they think 296 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 2: they should be playing twenty five minutes a game and 297 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 2: they're only playing eight, they're like, they just go home 298 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 2: and whip out their iPad and look at their bank 299 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 2: account and they don't care. They don't care anymore. Not 300 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 2: across the board, but certain instances this money. And I'm 301 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 2: all for players getting money. This is not what I'm saying, 302 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is the effect of these kids 303 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 2: getting money and what it's done to their will, their competitiveness, 304 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 2: their toughness to really dig in. That's why all these 305 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 2: like college players. I don't have date on this either, 306 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 2: but college players are sitting out way more than they 307 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 2: ever have, way more, not playing with injuries, not playing 308 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 2: with injury, but also the season's not going great for me, 309 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 2: I'm gonna set out so I can get a medical 310 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 2: red shirt and get another year to get paid next year. 311 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:16,959 Speaker 2: And that's happening all over them. 312 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 3: It used to be people couldn't wait to get done 313 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 3: with college right to get onto the next level so 314 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 3: they can get paid exactly. Now we got a bunch 315 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 3: of twenty eight year old dudes with gray and their 316 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 3: beard bonking around down below the basket because there's money 317 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 3: to be paide. 318 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 2: A lot of money. Like these guys. Well, there's so 319 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 2: many players. First of all, every guy that plays in 320 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 2: high major Division one college basketball thinks they're playing in 321 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 2: the NBA, which is wrong obviously. But like, and I 322 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 2: think we've talked about this. You're a second round pick 323 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 2: in the NBA draft. There's only sixty picks total. Okay, 324 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 2: if you're a second round pick, you are more than 325 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 2: likely on a two way contract the next year. You 326 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 2: know what a two way contract pace fifty grand much. 327 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 2: These guys are making a million million, five two million, 328 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 2: so they'd be taking a pay cut. And here's the 329 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 2: kicker that just don't understand. 330 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 3: That used to be a joke, a joke. You know, 331 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 3: they'd be like Reggie Bush took a pay cut when 332 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 3: he left you as see, now it's not a joke, 333 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 3: this reality. And not only that, you don't have to 334 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 3: pay for anything when you're in college, all your your 335 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 3: dorm or your apartment, all everything's paid for. And if 336 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 3: you're making the money, and if you don't play, they 337 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 3: still have to pay you the nil or you're. 338 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 2: Going to court, right And so these guys that want 339 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 2: extra year, they're thank god the COVID year's done, because 340 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 2: that added a year to everybody's thing. But the fact 341 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 2: that you're gonna leave college thinking you have all this money, 342 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 2: which even if you have a million, now you got 343 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 2: to pay for everything. You got to pay for your 344 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 2: but you got like a normal person. And most of 345 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 2: these guys aren't playing in the NBA. Some might play overseas, 346 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 2: might play in the G League. But the point is 347 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 2: is you are extending college basketball players careers and they're 348 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 2: earning potential or their earnings, and you're not getting You're 349 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 2: not getting what you're paying them for. That's why all 350 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 2: these coaches are so mad all the time. They're mad 351 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 2: that they're not getting they're not getting a return on 352 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 2: their investment in these players. Because the players don't care 353 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 2: as much because they're getting paid. There's no there's no 354 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 2: urgency to play every night, get better in the offseason, 355 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 2: play hard every night so that maybe I can impress 356 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 2: NBA people and play in the NBA. They think that's 357 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 2: a given. But the fact that they're getting paid, they 358 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 2: don't care anymore. You know, it might surprise you. 359 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 3: Don but a lot of people don't call me overnight 360 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 3: and ask me for advice regarding basketball knowledge. I'm not 361 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 3: an expert in that regard. I know you think of 362 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 3: me as a pretty smart guy in a lot of regards, 363 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 3: but I I'm not a basketball expert. But I do 364 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 3: know that over the years, what's always attracted me to 365 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 3: college basketball, and I think a lot of people is 366 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 3: the coach. The coach is the guy who's there, and 367 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 3: he's the one that carries over you're behimes you played 368 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 3: for Jim Herrick. We all love Jim Herrick, Larry Brown, 369 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 3: a Patinos still out there running around. Bill self is 370 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 3: still doing it at a very high level. The bench jockey, 371 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 3: Larry Eustaci, Dick Bennett, Tony Bennett. I mean, we have 372 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 3: great names over the years and some that are still 373 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 3: doing it. That is really the star of the sport. 374 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 3: The coach is the star of college basketball, right, and 375 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 3: it makes it fun there Bobby Knight throwing his chair. 376 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 3: I mean, that is the leg Geene Katie with his 377 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 3: shoe polish head, That is the legend. Tom Penders, the 378 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 3: Tan Man. I could go on and on, right, that's 379 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 3: what makes college basketball cool. The money that these guys 380 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 3: are getting now, or or the fact that everybody's getting it, 381 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 3: and the fact that you have to recruit with money 382 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 3: and all these different things more than you did before. 383 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 3: And it seems like it makes it a lot even 384 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 3: harder for these coaches to coach. 385 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 2: And I think that's why. And I'm sure we'll talk 386 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 2: about Mick in a minute, but not just missing. All 387 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 2: these coaches are frustrated by having to pay these guys 388 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 2: more than their assistance are making and not getting the 389 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 2: return on what they have to pay them. To Feeld 390 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 2: a competitive roster. They're mad about it. I would be 391 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 2: to anyone, would be that you have to compete. You 392 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 2: have to give a kid a certain amount of money 393 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 2: thinking you're going to get a certain amount back, and 394 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 2: when you're not, that's frustrating. 395 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 3: I mean, just in my experience in football when I 396 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 3: was a player, if they missed on a guy, we 397 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 3: got eighty five scholarships. But if they on a guy 398 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 3: and he showed up at USC and it happens, and 399 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 3: it's just clear that he wasn't This isn't the guy. 400 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 3: And maybe if they poured into him for two and 401 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 3: a half years, maybe he might be able to be 402 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 3: serviceable in one way or another. But they ain't going 403 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 3: to do that. They find a way to get rid 404 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 3: of them. 405 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 2: You know. 406 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 3: Now they don't even have to do that. They just 407 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 3: say they just push him out. I mean they don't 408 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 3: even like they used to have to strategically be like, hey, 409 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 3: you're not doing good in school. You know, they'd find 410 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 3: a way. And if the guy was a good student 411 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 3: and he didn't f up, you'd be screwed. You'd be 412 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 3: stuck with that guy for four years. Now it feels 413 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 3: like a two way street for everybody, and it's just 414 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 3: amazing how much it's changed. Because I think if you 415 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 3: were a guy like us and you started covering college 416 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 3: sports the revenue sports men's basketball, and football in nineteen 417 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 3: eighty and you're sitting around in two thousand and five, 418 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 3: not much has changing, you know, I mean, not much 419 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 3: has really changed in that time. Well, you get the 420 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 3: SMU scandal, you got your get the usc U and 421 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 3: LV like, not much has changed. And then you think, Okay, 422 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 3: you started in two thousand and now it's twenty twenty six. 423 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 3: Everything is changed. Nothing changed for a long ass time, 424 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 3: and we got complacent. 425 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,719 Speaker 2: You know who the real losers in college basketball are? 426 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 2: And I only know it. And I'm not saying this 427 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 2: because of that, but I talked to all these coaches 428 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 2: assistant coaches at length all the time. Is good high 429 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 2: school player? Yeah, high school players. 430 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 3: It's screwed that because now you're going to have to 431 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 3: do something that you didn't have to do in the past. 432 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 3: Go play at a JC prep school, can continue to develop, 433 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 3: stay hungry for old. 434 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 2: That's what they want. If you're old, if you're twenty three, 435 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 2: twenty four, they want you. They do not have time 436 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 2: to develop a kid that's like a top one fifty kid. 437 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 3: And I remember being recruited by USC. My brother was 438 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 3: there and they said, look, your grades suck, and they did, 439 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 3: which is why trying to trip me out that I 440 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 3: could get into CAL but not SC. But they were like, 441 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 3: your grades suck. You got to go to a JC free, 442 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 3: you know, just go to a JC for a semester 443 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 3: and then we'll take you in the spring, which is 444 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 3: actually what I ended up doing anyway when I left Cow. 445 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 3: But I remember being devastated. I don't want to do that. 446 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 3: You don't want everybody to think of me as a failure. 447 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 3: I'm supposed to be a big baller. I'm supposed to 448 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 3: be in D one. I'm supposed to have the shorts 449 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 3: and the shoes and the hat, and I'm better than everybody. 450 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 3: That's your mentality. And to tell, like a guy who's 451 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 3: a league MVP or something in high school who would 452 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 3: normally be going somewhere in a red shirt, that he's 453 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 3: not good enough and he's got to continue to chase 454 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 3: it like a desperate dog. That's what That is the 455 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 3: part of it that is hard, and I don't want 456 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 3: to watch twenty four year old guys fart around out there. 457 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 2: Baker bizarre at USC's twenty six. 458 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 3: Damn excuse me, don I think you just said he's 459 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 3: twenty six? Yeah, my god, twenty six. I had to 460 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 3: take a medical red shirt because I got hurt and 461 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 3: I had that one weird year where I transferred. So 462 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 3: I was twenty three my last year at SE, and 463 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 3: I was considered Yeah, ancient. 464 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 2: You're in the wheelhouse now if you're twenty three, Yeah, 465 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 2: twenty three, you're like a junior softboy. It's unreal. 466 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 3: It has changed, but we could still cover it. Yeah, 467 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 3: we're very spry. Wait, don you said he's twenty six? 468 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, my god. 469 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 3: I mean we played against Florida State when I was playing, 470 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 3: and they had Wankie who had played a minor league 471 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 3: and he was like twenty six, twenties. He was an 472 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 3: old dog. 473 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 2: There was a guy he was bald. There was a 474 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 2: guy last year at Minnesota. I forget his name, but 475 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 2: he was in his eighth year of college basketball. Eighth year. 476 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 3: So the only thing I. 477 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 2: Wish, look, the nil's unless Congress steps in, nothing's going 478 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 2: to change with that. The one thing I do hope 479 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 2: that the NCAA does is limit the transferring in the portal. 480 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 2: You get one time transfer. If you want to transfer again, 481 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 2: you got to sit out of here. That's that's the 482 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 2: only rule I wish that they would change because that 483 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 2: would stop some of this stuff. 484 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 3: Put your fingers in the die, stop the bleeding. Yeah, 485 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 3: we'll be back with more Petros and money. We'll talk 486 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 3: about what is actually raising your voice and if that's 487 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 3: okay and if it's different if you raise your voice 488 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 3: and there's cameras around, or if you raise your voice 489 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 3: and there's no cameras. If there's no cameras, how does 490 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 3: anybody know you raise your voice? If a tree falls 491 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 3: in the forest and no one's around, does it make 492 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 3: us ount? This is Petro send money to man demand Hi. Everybody, 493 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 3: welcome back. It's petrasing money on a five seventy LA Sports, 494 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 3: your home of Dodger Baseball, and we will talk to 495 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 3: the one and only David Vase, our Dodger corresponding he's 496 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 3: live now in camel Back Ranch, and by live now, 497 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 3: I mean alive in camel Back Ranch and we hope 498 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 3: to catch up with him in the five o'clock hour 499 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 3: or no, the four. Yeah, what time is Dave coming? 500 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 3: On five thirty. If we can get him out of 501 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 3: the baseball card shop five thirty ish, why can't he 502 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 3: just do it from there? He did yesterday. He walked 503 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 3: out yesterday. We're talking to him. Do you think baseball 504 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 3: cards and collecting him at this age. I mean, Dave's 505 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 3: like almost fifty is weird. 506 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 2: I don't think it's weird. I wouldn't do it, but 507 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 2: I don't think it's weird. 508 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 3: You think it's weird, Well, Kate's goes all the time, 509 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 3: like that's his happy places to get the sports cards. 510 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:09,199 Speaker 3: Cards back in COVID, Yeah, COVID brought him back. Everybody 511 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 3: got up into their attic. 512 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 4: The people my age who collected in the eighties and 513 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 4: nineties those cards are worth nothing because they were so 514 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 4: mass produced. But now they're back into it and they're 515 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 4: seeing what's out there. And these cards are so expensive 516 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 4: on I mean, you're talking thousands of dollars for the card. 517 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 4: It's ridiculous, and. 518 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 3: And Kate's loves it, and so does Vast say. 519 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 4: Why look, I can't afford any of this stuff, so 520 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 4: I just go and look. So I drive by that 521 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 4: place on my way to the Burbank Airport, believe it time. 522 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, breaking news we talked about way 523 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 3: wait wait wait wait wait, I know you're excited about this. 524 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, because Saturday is tops ripped day around the country. 525 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 3: Do you know what that is? That's where they've ripped 526 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 3: the patch a top sponsor. 527 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 4: If you're a major card shop around the country, most 528 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 4: likely you've got a celebrity or former athlete or current 529 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 4: athlete coming to help rip open packs. Burbank Sports Cards, 530 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 4: the voice of Mickey Mouse, Hey whoa Noodles, Nick Young, 531 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 4: two divas from the w WE, and scheduled to be. 532 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 3: There on Saturday. But no more. 533 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 4: Why Bronnie James no more, no why he was supposed 534 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 4: to be their Saturday afternoon But Burbank Sports Cards just 535 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 4: posted a little while ago. There's been a change and 536 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 4: Bronnie is no longer making up here. Oh so you 537 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 4: can get out of the line. Those people line up 538 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 4: on Hollywood Away right now waiting to see Brown. 539 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 3: Maybe. 540 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 2: So wait, whose cards are they ripping open? 541 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 4: The top sins a bunch of you know, packs and boxes, 542 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 4: and then they ripping open and they go through the cards. 543 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 4: And what happens now is they just go through the 544 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 4: cards looking for gold ones or numbered ones or ones 545 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 4: with relics or ones that are autographed, and everything else is. 546 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 3: Just like a patch of somebody's underwear in it. 547 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 4: Seriously, it's so disheartening because if they're underway game war yeah, 548 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 4: really the elbow sleeves that the NBA guys wears and 549 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 4: east sleeves really batting gloves. 550 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, everything, And you were gonna go see Brownie Kates. 551 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 3: You are all Twitter painted. Maybe he's gonna go to 552 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 3: the USC game. The Don's calling on Saturday. Maybe that's 553 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 3: where he's going. I doubt it. What do you mean, Don? 554 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 3: Why would you say that? Don? 555 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 2: Well? USC Organ isn't exactly you know, Organ's having a 556 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 2: tough year. 557 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 3: I will put you out. This is the flip top 558 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 3: story of the day. Marcus Johnson came on yesterday and 559 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 3: I was gonna ask you him about it, but then 560 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 3: he just brought it up himself. He said his pastor 561 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 3: called him and said he's done with Mick Cronin, and 562 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 3: Marcus Johnson said he's not ready to say that. Mc 563 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 3: cronin got upset the other night in East Lansing. I've 564 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 3: been upset in East Lansing. I know what it's like, 565 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 3: I am never ever going to turn my back on 566 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 3: Mick Cronin unless he murders somebody, and it would have 567 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 3: to be cold blooded murder, like really bad. You know 568 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 3: what my bar is, Sharon Moore. If Mick Cronin breaks 569 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 3: into a fat white girl's apartment and holds a knife 570 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 3: to his neck and threatens everybody's life, I'm done, okay, 571 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,479 Speaker 3: But beyond that, I love Mick Cronin. I don't care 572 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 3: if he throws his oat player out of the game. 573 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 3: And I don't care Bill plashk who We love you, Bill, 574 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 3: But I do not care that he embarrasses some student. 575 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 3: Is it a great look? No, you be the judge, Cass. 576 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 3: We'll get a pre run for Cooper gets found hard 577 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 3: for me, I'm by. 578 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 4: Jamerson, and Cooper gets right in Jamerson's face because of 579 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 4: the hard fell Jamerson stood his ground. 580 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 3: I remember Jamerson a student here at Michigan State. McK 581 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 3: conin says, I want you out, will nicklest want you out? 582 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 3: Want him into the locker room. 583 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 2: Because it Cooper's way out there, right. You don't want 584 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 2: to hurt anybody this late in the game, all right, 585 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,719 Speaker 2: DoD So first, we don't want to hurt anyone at 586 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 2: any time of the game, first of all. 587 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 3: But especially this late as Tracy's. 588 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 2: Here's what I would say, and you just said it. 589 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 2: It's not a great look to do what he did 590 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 2: because as far as I know, it's never happened to 591 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 2: coaching it's own player out of the game. Although he 592 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 2: did have five fouls, did he not Hatton he already 593 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 2: fouled out? Was it that his fifth foul? 594 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 3: I don't know. 595 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 2: I'll have to look into that, but here's what I 596 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 2: would say about it. And look, Mick s Bennett UCLA enough. 597 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 2: We've heard enough of his press conferences. 598 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 3: This is who he is. That's what I said. This 599 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 3: is who he is. 600 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 2: Okay, that's first. Second, if you're around Mick and you 601 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 2: talk to Mick, the word that comes up most is toughness. 602 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 2: It comes up in every conversation when talking about his team, 603 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 2: when talking about other players, you go to practice toughness. 604 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 2: That's what he likes to hang his hat on and 605 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 2: his players being tough, and not just physically tough, mentally tough, 606 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 2: but toughness is a real thing. And so Jamerson, who 607 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 2: look had a pretty good year at San Diego, that 608 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 2: was it he's not the toughest guy in the world. 609 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 2: And I think when you aren't the toughest guy in 610 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 2: the world, which is fine, not for Mick, but it's 611 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 2: fine in general, and you try and you make a 612 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 2: play at the end of a game when you're down 613 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 2: twenty five or whatever they were down, and then try 614 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 2: and act tough after. I'm pretty sure that's what set micoff. 615 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 2: That's what set him off, as Okay, you're not very 616 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 2: tough to begin with, You're getna foul a guy late 617 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 2: in the game for no reason, and now you're gonna 618 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 2: act tough when you haven't been being tough the whole game. 619 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 2: So yes, not a great in how it played out. 620 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 2: And I'm not speaking for Mick, but I could almost 621 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 2: guarantee you that's what he was thinking, Like, now you're 622 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,720 Speaker 2: gonna act tough after you foul a guy that's already 623 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 2: up in the air and like could have been a 624 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 2: flagrant whatever you're down twenty five. I'm fairly certain that's 625 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 2: why Mick did what he did. That's something I mentioned 626 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 2: that's very great perspective that we didn't have. It was 627 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 2: mentioned here that I'm sure this didn't happen in a vacuum, 628 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 2: something about that player and that particular circumstance that set 629 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,320 Speaker 2: make off, and he was still pissed and the press 630 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 2: conference his podcast, east landsy reporter asked him about the 631 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 2: student second. 632 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 5: The student section, chanting, I could give a rats ash 633 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 5: about the other team student. 634 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 3: Section, about the overall the way that I would like 635 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 3: to give you a the kudos for the worst question 636 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:56,240 Speaker 3: I've ever been asked? 637 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 5: Did you like you should take it preparation of the 638 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 5: Do you really think I care about the other I 639 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 5: don't think you care about the other your voice? No, 640 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,439 Speaker 5: I'm here, you are there, you are Come on, dude, 641 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 5: come on, yes you were. Everybody's standing here listening to you. 642 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 5: Everybody this is on camera, they can hear you. I 643 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 5: answered the question. I could give a rat's ask about 644 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 5: the other team students section. I coach UCLA. I don't 645 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 5: care about Michigan State students. 646 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 3: I mean, who cares your thoughts? What in that exchange? Everybody? 647 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 2: Well, I would say, people that make comments about Mick 648 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 2: Cronin's press conferences, I think they're funny. 649 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 3: Yes, I cannot afford to lose mc cronin, not while 650 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 3: we do a four hour show. You want to make 651 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 3: this a three hour show. I can afford to lose 652 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 3: mc cronin in town selfish. 653 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 2: But here's my here's my problem with all the people 654 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 2: conte the content machine. He's funny, His rants are funny. 655 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 3: You know. 656 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 2: People are on both sides of that, I guess. But 657 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,720 Speaker 2: then when he gets asked literally one of the dumbest 658 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 2: questions I've heard, if you put it into context, he 659 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 2: just lost by twenty five at Michigan State. You really 660 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 2: think he cares about what the student section's doing to 661 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 2: a guy that played there for two years, and oh, 662 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 2: by the way, a guy that's underperforming, like I just 663 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 2: talked about Jamerson and Booker, who on the Michigan trip 664 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 2: had four total rebounds, oh at seven feet nosed. So 665 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 2: you're going to ask about the student section, which no 666 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 2: one cares about except for Michigan State. And then you're 667 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 2: you're asking about a player who I'm sure he's frustrated 668 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:38,959 Speaker 2: with him as well, and then you raise your voice, 669 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 2: and then you're frustrated with all the other stuff that 670 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 2: Mick is talked about, and it's frustrating. Look, Pee, you 671 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 2: and I have talked about it. 672 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 3: With Matt. 673 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 2: Basketball moving to the big ten became a very hard thing. 674 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,320 Speaker 2: Who you're competing against, the travel, the schedule, all of it. 675 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 2: And when you go to a trip at Michigan and 676 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 2: get beat by twenty five or thirty in both games, 677 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 2: who isn't going to be frustrated? And then you get 678 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 2: asked a dumb question. I would have popped off in 679 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 2: that situation too, But I don't get how everybody thinks 680 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 2: he's so funny all the time, and now all of 681 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 2: a sudden, you know, John Wooden's turning over in his grave. 682 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 3: Really what I said? I said, have you heard him? 683 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 3: Pepper Josh Lewin? He Pepper's Josh Lewin like a pepper 684 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 3: steak in Las Vegas at that place under the Four Queens. 685 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 3: It's a great restaurant that makes a pepper steak. I 686 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 3: forget its name. Anyway, The point is I feel I 687 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,760 Speaker 3: feel like it was a slow news day and people 688 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 3: got on it and got all riled up about it. 689 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 3: I will never turn my back on Cronin unless you 690 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 3: know what my bar is, fat white girl holding the 691 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 3: steak knife to your neck. Just ask the questions. 692 00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 2: I mean, we everyone everyone college basketball is competitive. Mick 693 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:08,399 Speaker 2: Cronin is no different. Highly competitive guy. Expectations are high 694 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 2: at UCLA, his expectations of his team are high, and 695 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 2: they're fighting to make the NCAA tournament. And so if 696 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 2: he's willing to wear his emotion on his sleeve, which 697 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 2: a lot of coaches don't, he does, so be it. 698 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 2: I've never had a pride look I went to when 699 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 2: he first got the job. I went to practice and 700 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 2: I saw, you know what, practice looked like. He's getting 701 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 2: after guys. He expects a lot. I got no problem 702 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 2: with that. This world has become a little bit soft. 703 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 2: I little we would all agree a little bit. So 704 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 2: anytime that they see something like this, everybody's got a 705 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 2: big problem with it. 706 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 3: He should have seen how my thirteen year old reacted 707 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 3: the other day to a sunburn. I've never been so 708 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 3: imbarrassed in my life. 709 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 5: Losers though about we were winning at halftime. 710 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 3: We love Mick Cronan's press conferences so much here on 711 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 3: a radio show, Dawn, because we're an audio medium, as 712 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 3: you know, we even have an intro for them. Porey, 713 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 3: welcome in the coach. I'm not sugarcoating it. I ain't 714 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 3: messing him around. It's Cronin talk. When Mick speaks. We 715 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 3: all listen. I got prine. Some people don't. 716 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 5: I do. 717 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:25,400 Speaker 3: It's Cronin talk. That's three years old. We've been doing 718 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 3: that for three years. So with all due respect to 719 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 3: our friend Bill Plashki, waking up and realizing Mick Cronan 720 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,879 Speaker 3: has a little bit of an edge to him, Yeah, 721 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 3: not much of a revelation to most though. And I 722 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 3: don't think John wouldn't be would be turning over in 723 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 3: his grave. I think John wouldn't coach a little bit 724 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,279 Speaker 3: harder than you might imagine, especially against Pete Noule. 725 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 2: There was no camera phones back then. 726 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:58,240 Speaker 3: You're not all right, well, we're all on the same page. 727 00:39:58,239 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 3: Here's what's going to be best, you guys are. 728 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 2: And that's the other thing everybody likes to jump on 729 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 2: when when you know people, you know they have a 730 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 2: bad road trip to Michigan, what if they beat Illinois 731 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 2: on Saturday, then what everyone wants them fired still because 732 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 2: if they beat Illinois on Saturday, they're for sure in 733 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 2: the NCAA tournament for sure. 734 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 3: That's how quick the trip, how quick it is in 735 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:20,359 Speaker 3: the Big ten. 736 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 2: Well, just in general, like people want to pile on 737 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 2: because they lost two games bad, but back in the 738 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,279 Speaker 2: same stuff in the press conference, and all of a 739 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,320 Speaker 2: sudden everybody wants them fired. But if they win this Saturday, 740 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 2: he's the greatest coach ever. Again. 741 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,399 Speaker 3: Back in the day, though we talk about the Pac twelve, 742 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:35,800 Speaker 3: it'd be like, you know, I don't see anybody on 743 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 3: their schedule that they could beat that it would make 744 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 3: a difference, you know. But so they can do that 745 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 3: very quickly, change the narrative by beating the Baltic six, 746 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 3: the Balkan five, balk And five. I'm sorry, we'll be back. 747 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 3: The Big ten is no joke. Everybody's big, everybody's strong. 748 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 5: Every game you play, find me the biggest nastiest fo 749 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 5: could drink in Eastern European. You can't just find some 750 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:04,839 Speaker 5: guy it used to like wrestle. 751 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 3: Bears that ain't Booker or Jamison. No interesting conversation, and 752 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:22,759 Speaker 3: thank you Don for the perspective. Yeah, I don't. Yeah. 753 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,840 Speaker 2: The immediate reaction and overreaction to everything in this world 754 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 2: is shocking to me. 755 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 3: Steve and A even had something to say about this. 756 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 3: What did he say? I think he towed the line. 757 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,319 Speaker 3: I like mc cronin, but this is bad. 758 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 4: You know, hey, Don, if these are transactional deals, and 759 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,359 Speaker 4: I know there are one year deals. These guys are 760 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 4: get an I l you should be able to just 761 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 4: pay them off and tell them to go, you know, 762 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 4: cut the. 763 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 3: Guy, release them, then we'll see what happens. But he 764 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:49,840 Speaker 3: used to be the nil doesn't work like you have 765 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 3: to pay them, pay them get odd here. I don't 766 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,800 Speaker 3: like get my roster anymore. I know it's February, but 767 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,719 Speaker 3: you're gone. Well that you gotta have somebody playing center. 768 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 3: You can't go back to that that booster and be like, hey, 769 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 3: that one guy we begged for money for for you 770 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,319 Speaker 3: and we got rid of him, would you give us 771 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 3: some more money for the next guy? 772 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 2: Right? 773 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,800 Speaker 3: This isn't a sustainable world. It's yeah, we're living in it. 774 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:13,280 Speaker 3: Petros Money on AMPHI seventy LA Sports Reaction. 775 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:22,879 Speaker 1: Next Southern California's most listened to sports talk show. 776 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 2: This is on demand. Take us to the top, he 777 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,359 Speaker 2: I know the drill. Oh just take to the top, 778 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,399 Speaker 2: not the top of the hour, just to the top, man, 779 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 2: straight to the top. 780 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 3: Back went back when I used to work at fifteen 781 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 3: forty high on the dial top of the heap. That 782 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 3: was where we had the birth of great Sports Talk. 783 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 3: Thanks for listening, everybody, Petrosen, Money, Don McClain in Tonight 784 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 3: Clippers versus Nuggets pregame at six thirty, tip off at 785 00:42:58,239 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 3: seven thirty. 786 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 2: If I told you how much I enjoy not having 787 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 2: to drive to int it do them this year? Have 788 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 2: I told that? 789 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 3: Have I told you that? 790 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:06,880 Speaker 1: No? 791 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:09,799 Speaker 3: Well I do. You don't like going to the South 792 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 3: Bay That's where I'm from. 793 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,320 Speaker 2: Not from Westlake at three o'clock. 794 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 3: No, we're giving away these tickets today, Tim. They're not 795 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 3: at the end to it, Don, They're They're in a 796 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 3: place that you drive nearer to beat Bemo Stadium. For 797 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 3: the first time ever here in La the legends of 798 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 3: FC Bartholona and Real Madrid take the pitch at Bimo. 799 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 3: Watch barth the Legends take on Real Madrid legends like 800 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:42,239 Speaker 3: Figo live this Sunday. You can listen to the game 801 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 3: on KFI Kickoff is it two Tickets start at thirty 802 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 3: five dollars. Get your tickets now at we are House 803 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 3: of Heroes dot com. Keep listening as we're giving away 804 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:56,839 Speaker 3: tickets today. Here on the Petres and Money Show, Don 805 00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 3: and I did some some defense of the Mick Cronin's situation. No, 806 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 3: we just discussed it. We disgusted. That wasn't that to me? 807 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:09,319 Speaker 2: I wasn't defending Mick Cronan. I was saying what I thought. 808 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:11,880 Speaker 2: So I guess if you want to take it as 809 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 2: I was defending him. But to me, why are you 810 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 2: going to treat me like Ronnie Well? Were you raising 811 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 2: your voice toward I am? Why would you? I mean, 812 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 2: we got three he's so fricking soft. We got three 813 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:29,840 Speaker 2: more hours, don and now my feelings are hurt. Correction. 814 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,240 Speaker 3: The restaurant under the Four Queens that I was referring 815 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,759 Speaker 3: to the old Steakhouse is Hugo's Cellar that my father 816 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:43,719 Speaker 3: took me to. Hugo's seller, Thank you very much. A 817 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,400 Speaker 3: lot of people are comparing Bronnie James pulling out of 818 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:51,279 Speaker 3: the Burbank Sports Cards event Kates to his father not 819 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,759 Speaker 3: showing up at Blaze Pizza that one time. Now, I 820 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 3: know Bronnie James got relegated to the G League recently 821 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 3: that happened. Yeah, do you think that's why he's not 822 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,080 Speaker 3: showing up at the Burbank Sports Cards to press the flesh? 823 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:07,840 Speaker 3: I don't know. 824 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 4: There was no reason given, but he was scheduled and 825 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,600 Speaker 4: now he's not. I'm checking to see what their schedule 826 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,320 Speaker 4: looks like. They actually do play a game on Saturday 827 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 4: at five point thirty. The ceth Why Lakers. 828 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,839 Speaker 2: So yeah, the secret text does. 829 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,360 Speaker 3: A fine brought to you by your so called Toyota dealers. 830 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,840 Speaker 3: We make it easy. This says, why does down sound 831 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 3: like a black guy? 832 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:31,279 Speaker 5: What? 833 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,440 Speaker 3: I'm not black, But there's a lot of people that are. 834 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not gay, So just it's a lot of 835 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 6: people who are. That is what Dwight Howard said. This 836 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 6: guy is not black by that gay, So just it's 837 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:48,600 Speaker 6: a lot of people who are. It's a lot of 838 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:53,759 Speaker 6: people that are. Okay, so don't tell me that I'm gay. 839 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,880 Speaker 2: That's the first time I've ever been not accused but 840 00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:57,360 Speaker 2: told that. 841 00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,839 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you're a big man, so your voice 842 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:05,720 Speaker 3: is very deep. The other day I watched the video 843 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:10,400 Speaker 3: of Jackson Hayes getting tased. Have you ever seen that? No, 844 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 3: because Jackson Hayes, you know, is in the dunk contest 845 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 3: and he was one that great but he he got 846 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,360 Speaker 3: tased out here when he was a Pelican in Sherman Oaks. 847 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,719 Speaker 3: Domestic violence cops, We're like, we're going to go talk 848 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 3: to your girlfriend. He's like, you can't go into my house. 849 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:26,800 Speaker 3: He's like, no, stay out of here, we're going to 850 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 3: talk to her. That he started resisting on this and 851 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,040 Speaker 3: that he got tased and his voice was very deep, 852 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:36,400 Speaker 3: like rah, because he's really tall. So that could be 853 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,279 Speaker 3: what they're saying here. Maybe Pee. Listening to you guys 854 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 3: talk about money being on tour, the world tour makes 855 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,920 Speaker 3: me laugh every time. I can't help but compare Matt 856 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,279 Speaker 3: to Rain Wilson in the movie The Rocker. There's even 857 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,560 Speaker 3: a resemblance in the movie poster. Take a look. Matt 858 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:59,319 Speaker 3: is living the dream rock on just don't break your hip, 859 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 3: you pull Smoker. Matt really is living his best life. 860 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 3: But the rest of us, we're just here doing right. 861 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:12,800 Speaker 4: Oh, he was in the Big City last night, like 862 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,400 Speaker 4: the last couple of days, Boston before that, don he 863 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,800 Speaker 4: was in DC today and tomorrow, Philadelphia over the weekend. 864 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:25,480 Speaker 3: Wow, the does a fine brought to you by your 865 00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,800 Speaker 3: so called Toyota dealers. We make it easy. 866 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 2: That sounds more like a torture, not a world tour, 867 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 2: a countrywide tour. Excuse me, it's really more of an 868 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 2: East coast But don't you. 869 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,360 Speaker 3: Pete. You don't know a lot about basketball, but you 870 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,839 Speaker 3: do love groucy coaches. Are you raising your voice at me? Yes, 871 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 3: every time I turn on this mic, it is very 872 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,239 Speaker 3: likely that I am raising my voice. Yeah, at you. 873 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:59,759 Speaker 3: We appreciate everybody's patronage. Today, Don is locked into the 874 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 3: order to combined team sprint skiing event going on right now. 875 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,360 Speaker 3: What That's what it says on the corner. That's what 876 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:13,399 Speaker 3: I read. Just don't raise your voice, dude. You think 877 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,600 Speaker 3: you could do this down uphill both ways? 878 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:21,719 Speaker 2: Dude, I don't even think I could get the skis on. Yeah, 879 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 2: that looks pretty tough. 880 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. They these guys look tired when they when they 881 00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 3: get finished. I'm not black, but there's a lot of 882 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 3: people that are. Mark Petterson Body on m f I 883 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,720 Speaker 3: seventy l A Sports, You're Home of the Dodger