Speaker 1: Do you want to be in a Mafican all right back, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the first one about twenty twenty six for me and
Speaker 1: probably for you, possibly for you. Here we go another
Speaker 1: year ahead of us. Of course, when you start with
Speaker 1: bad news. Hopefully, hopefully that's not the trend for the
Speaker 1: entire twenty twenty six campaign. I'm saying, we started in
Speaker 1: Cincinnati with a homicide of an eleven year old. For
Speaker 1: God's sake, Well, here we go again. Not much as changing.
Speaker 1: The big story I think over the last few days
Speaker 1: certainly has been what just happened in Venezuela. As the
Speaker 1: Trump administration moved in, they took Maduro out. He is
Speaker 1: being a reigned today in the Southern District of New
Speaker 1: York probably as we speak right now. They've got him
Speaker 1: off an army heilo, I believe, and they've got him
Speaker 1: in court. They got him in custody. Hopefully it is
Speaker 1: not a Jeffrey Epstein situation and how that turned out
Speaker 1: when he was in custody. That would not be good
Speaker 1: with the eyes of the world on us. But the
Speaker 1: idea that we're doing this over drugs and not oil.
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of people that believe it's
Speaker 1: about drugs, but I don't know. I look at the
Speaker 1: history of this thing and go pretty clear to me
Speaker 1: talking anything about drugs. Right now, we're talking about opening
Speaker 1: up the oil markets and Cuba and Mexico maybe next
Speaker 1: who knows what all this means. Maybe some perspective on
Speaker 1: it from a guy who actually lived spent a lot
Speaker 1: of time in Latin America as an expert in Latin America,
Speaker 1: the former director of National Studies that UD founded human
Speaker 1: Rights studies program. He is a professor. Mark and Salaco
Speaker 1: joined the show on seven hundred WW from the University
Speaker 1: of Dayton.
Speaker 2: Mark, Happy New Year, Scott.
Speaker 1: Let's jump in and go with the narrative here about
Speaker 1: this being the Yeah, I think we agreed last time
Speaker 1: we spoke that the pretext here was, you know, drugs
Speaker 1: protextual and this is all largely about oil because the
Speaker 1: whole drug thing really doesn't make a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: Even the government themselves, those who in the den also said, yeah,
Speaker 1: Venezuela really is not a big exporter here. Of that
Speaker 1: it might go through Mexico be funneled, but China is
Speaker 1: the big end I mean here, Mexico is a bigger
Speaker 1: proponent of drugs than Venezuela is at this point.
Speaker 2: But I look at this one.
Speaker 1: This is kind of interesting because there are so many
Speaker 1: patriots from Venezuela because of that awful regime, and I
Speaker 1: think we should celebrate that. It's interesting because Trump's whole
Speaker 1: plan for America has been stopping the flow of immigrants.
Speaker 1: In Venezuela is one of those countries. It sent us
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of their immigrants, and so
Speaker 1: I think that's an interesting juxtaposition.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot involved in this. I'm not sure
Speaker 3: that the drug issue was a pretext. It was literally
Speaker 3: the Department of Justice had been looking at this guy
Speaker 3: for decades, so this.
Speaker 4: Is a case was built. But it's about drugs, it's
Speaker 4: about oils.
Speaker 3: But a lot of time talking about oil, which we understand,
Speaker 3: which is really necessary. You know, Venezuela is a seventeen
Speaker 3: percent of the world's controlling reserves and produces one percent.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's real growth there, so, but it's also
Speaker 3: about it's also about regime change. There's no question about
Speaker 3: regime change, and not just in Venezuela, which many people
Speaker 3: are applauding, even though they're not happy about military intervention
Speaker 3: in United States.
Speaker 4: But I'm happy about the.
Speaker 3: Removal of Maderto. Now you're thinking about Cuba, and now
Speaker 3: you think about nick at Iwa, which Daniel Otago is
Speaker 3: really horrible guy. And there are a lot of people
Speaker 3: who look an opportunity in Venezuela to ignite, reignited democratic movement.
Speaker 3: You know, this, this democratic unity platform, Maria Cordina Machallo.
Speaker 4: Was really to be applauded.
Speaker 3: So it's really strange to me because the president mentioned
Speaker 3: the Vice President Selsea Rodriguez. The oils are not the
Speaker 3: Nobel Prize winner leader of this very viable democratic.
Speaker 4: Platforms.
Speaker 3: Sou Venezuela has a long history of Latina of democracy,
Speaker 3: but there was really aborted by this years and years
Speaker 3: decades on Chevysmo Caesar Jave is now thankfully it's over Madudo.
Speaker 3: But Venezuela has the strength of a society to come
Speaker 3: to this positively democratically.
Speaker 2: I think that's one of the things.
Speaker 1: You know, we talk about Iraq and Afghanistan and which
Speaker 1: are twenty years endless war and look how it ended,
Speaker 1: and we do Vietnam, and it goes on and on
Speaker 1: and on, and there's some bright points where we tried
Speaker 1: to build states, but it generally doesn't work out too well.
Speaker 2: Marketslock.
Speaker 1: I think there's a little different because you know, the
Speaker 1: thing in the Middle East is you're fighting against Islam, right.
Speaker 1: You don't have that component here. So it's also in
Speaker 1: the West, right, and so they have a history of democracy.
Speaker 1: To me, that's it's a little bit. If you have
Speaker 1: a chance, it may very well be with Venezuela. Let's
Speaker 1: put it that way. Do you agree, Well.
Speaker 3: You know, I mean Venezuela when I started going to
Speaker 3: Latin America, living there and researching there in the in
Speaker 3: the eighties, Venezuela had avoided the military cutictas and the revolutions.
Speaker 3: Even Colombia next door, the drug trafficking on the farc
Speaker 3: and the gorillas and nineteen ex are Venezuela state above that,
Speaker 3: and there's there's a vibrant democratic element there. But even
Speaker 3: if I can had this, you know, what the President
Speaker 3: said was sort of strange, talking about just so strange,
Speaker 3: we're going to run we are going to run Venezuela.
Speaker 3: And he started talking about the Trump corollary to the
Speaker 3: Monroe doctri et cetera. But you know, I see standing
Speaker 3: behind them Marco Rubil, who has been a long advocate,
Speaker 3: long time advocate for the removal of these type of
Speaker 3: these corypt dictatorships, being Cuban exil himself and he's a statesman,
Speaker 3: it would be wonderful time now Marco Rubio really working
Speaker 3: with allies in the region and the organization of Berican
Speaker 3: States to really produce it would be a major You know,
Speaker 3: in Latin America there are always suspicious in the United
Speaker 3: States gunboat diplomacy.
Speaker 4: They started in Venezuela.
Speaker 3: In eighteen hundreds, right, But there's how is a wonderful
Speaker 3: opportunity when a dictatorship falls, when it collapses. Now, if
Speaker 3: he makes this just about oil, it's got to be
Speaker 3: about oil because that will be able to buy democratic
Speaker 3: peace with that with that that income. But it can't
Speaker 3: be just about petroleum or US dominance. It's really got
Speaker 3: to be about genuine democracy and the rule of law.
Speaker 3: And you made an interesting point as you began this interview.
Speaker 3: I for a long time said I welcome immigrants. I
Speaker 3: welcome immigrants and migrants and refuge and asylums.
Speaker 4: Secrets understand it.
Speaker 3: But the first right the Latin Americans have is the
Speaker 3: right not to be forced to flee. They deserve the
Speaker 3: right of democratic government and the rule of law, a
Speaker 3: prosperous economy. It allows them to stay in Venezuela, as
Speaker 3: you said, or Nicaragua.
Speaker 4: Or whatever it may be. So whenever in Latin America where.
Speaker 3: I was suspicious in the United States and gunbulk diplomacy
Speaker 3: and et cetera, et cetera, but in Latin America is
Speaker 3: always wonderful fronts of fresh air. When the dictator falls,
Speaker 3: there's and there's democratic possibilities. That's where that's where.
Speaker 5: We are at.
Speaker 4: We're in a moment of democratic possibility.
Speaker 1: Doctor Mark Ansilaka from UD spent considerable amount of time
Speaker 1: Latin American expert talking about the fall of Maduro in Venezuela.
Speaker 1: What happens now and somehow we're going to quote unquote
Speaker 1: run the country. I'm not quite sure what that entails.
Speaker 1: Part of that problem, though, Mark, is the fact that
Speaker 1: if you look at the Maduro regime, right lost the
Speaker 1: election but kept the presidency anyway, and he did it
Speaker 1: because he's got a huge payroll of people in the military. Generally,
Speaker 1: when you do that, you're not going to be open
Speaker 1: to democracy coming in. So you're going to have all
Speaker 1: of these generals and leaders in the military. They're going
Speaker 1: to fight tooth and nail to protect what they had
Speaker 1: as opposed to giving in to make a Venezuela democratic state.
Speaker 1: How can we do that without putting military, without putting
Speaker 1: US boots on the ground. At this point, which you know,
Speaker 1: I think it was what twenty twenty at West Point
Speaker 1: when Trump said, We're not going to do any more
Speaker 1: of these wars. This is a military slash police action. Okay,
Speaker 1: but you're still going to have to occupy. How do
Speaker 1: you do that if you're Donald Trump?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking at fault lines. How this thing could
Speaker 3: go south? No plum attended very badly, go sideways really quickly.
Speaker 3: You got the military, Let me come back to that.
Speaker 3: You got the Chavistas, you got the movement founded by
Speaker 3: Google Chavez, who this regime really just serves. We could
Speaker 3: have what equivalent in Venezuela. We'll call it antifa to
Speaker 3: Chavez vigilantes. Yeah, that's a possibly drug traffickers. There are
Speaker 3: real fault lines. But you're actually it's the military.
Speaker 4: Maw is correct.
Speaker 3: Actually power proceeds from.
Speaker 4: The barrel of a gun.
Speaker 3: But what I suspect is contexts are already made between
Speaker 3: our generals, the Panama Canal Zone, the Central Intelsagency, diplomatic core,
Speaker 3: Marco rule. You we're already, we're already talking to people
Speaker 3: and these generals who enrich themselves. Uh, Maduro, they're there
Speaker 3: are days over, the gravy chains gone.
Speaker 4: They're gonna What they need to do is, you know,
Speaker 4: gather up.
Speaker 3: Their cash and their belongings and please someplace Spain or something.
Speaker 4: That's what will happened. They're not going to stand in fight.
Speaker 3: They're not going to be a military coup to retain
Speaker 3: this democratic government.
Speaker 4: I don't see it, Doctor her. Know, the generals are
Speaker 4: already talking to them.
Speaker 3: They're already talking about a first name based they want
Speaker 3: time to get on a plane. We got a hotel
Speaker 3: for you in Panama.
Speaker 4: Something.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, you examine that, and there's just so
Speaker 1: many of them there. They're obviously going to remain loyal
Speaker 1: to Maduro for the reasons you talked about. It's make
Speaker 1: our job harder as part of running things, as Trump said.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: The other element to with with that loyalty is the
Speaker 1: fact that all right, well, if you're already, if you
Speaker 1: already have the gun barrels as you spoke, isn't this
Speaker 1: is there a chance could make the the drug issue
Speaker 1: worse than better?
Speaker 3: Well any instability, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Because of the instability, right, and and the weapons and
Speaker 1: the power in Columbia.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I lived in Columbia, which a really stable democratics,
Speaker 3: a political system, I'll call it that, I'll believe it
Speaker 3: or not. But the drug traffickers, drug traffickers were just
Speaker 3: a state within a state. But what happened with Madero
Speaker 3: was he had turned as had come by the way
Speaker 3: Juan Ernandez, the Honduran president that our president just pardoned
Speaker 3: for drug crimes right to Honduras and Venezuela had become
Speaker 3: the government had really become a sort of corrupt government.
Speaker 4: It was just venal.
Speaker 3: And so you know, I brought up the specter of
Speaker 3: you know, Chevista gangs out there trying to be violent resistance.
Speaker 3: But no one's going to go to their grave for Machado.
Speaker 3: He's not charismatic dictator. He's really a ten dictator. Not
Speaker 3: a lot of people are going to martyr themselves on
Speaker 3: the sec the on the on the on the altar
Speaker 3: of Madito.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also the scope of Venezuela's like, you know,
Speaker 1: twice the size of California.
Speaker 2: You have got about thirty million people there.
Speaker 1: That this isn't like a small island, you know, this
Speaker 1: isn't a Haiti or Panama, for God's sakes. That's a
Speaker 1: pretty big country and and and inhospitable one at that.
Speaker 1: One comes to the terrain. So anytime I hear this,
Speaker 1: I think of, okay, what about the US military? You
Speaker 1: just look at that and go oof. Based on what
Speaker 1: we described, and then the the you know, the topography
Speaker 1: and the land mass, the size of the thing and
Speaker 1: the scope of the population makes it even more difficult
Speaker 1: to run this country.
Speaker 4: You know. But but it's not and you're a perceptive
Speaker 4: of this, it's.
Speaker 3: This is not like a rock where we really had
Speaker 3: to have put on the ground because we were being
Speaker 3: there was an insurgency against our occupation or whatever we
Speaker 3: want to call it. No, that's not the situation. You
Speaker 3: don't have is law and order. Will people be able
Speaker 3: to keep the gangs normal crime, normal crime?
Speaker 4: And then drug related crime?
Speaker 3: If the military and the security forces and the intelligence
Speaker 3: surfaces sort of collapse, you have have instability, and that
Speaker 3: it will be dangerous.
Speaker 4: What we have to avoid.
Speaker 3: If I use the analogy of Rock, can is the
Speaker 3: depatification where anyone who was related to Mandeto, particularly in
Speaker 3: the oil industry and other key industries. Right, we can't
Speaker 3: just fire people because they're tired with Talbot. We may
Speaker 3: with Mendeto. We made that mistake in a rock. So again,
Speaker 3: you know there's a professional class. There is a vibrant Uh,
Speaker 3: there could be a vibrant private market, private ownership and
Speaker 3: market economy.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: It's been corrupted by this this regime, this democratic I
Speaker 3: don't we call this state capitalism crony capitalism. There's real
Speaker 3: epporate tunity for the private sector to go. There's a
Speaker 3: professional class, the attorneys and terrorists who can restore the
Speaker 3: rule of law.
Speaker 4: I don't want to be I don't.
Speaker 3: Want to have rose colored glasses about this.
Speaker 4: I understand the difficulties, and.
Speaker 3: I don't want to say, oh, it's gonna be a rock.
Speaker 3: There's gonna be a cake walk, and they're going to
Speaker 3: welcome us as as liberators and oil will pay for herself.
Speaker 4: We heard those errors, those those lives.
Speaker 3: But then there's a if I can repeat it, there's
Speaker 3: a real democratic moment here that's why, I hope.
Speaker 4: I don't know why.
Speaker 3: He's talking about Delsea Rodriguez.
Speaker 4: I get it.
Speaker 3: She's oil minister and the finance minister. She's you know,
Speaker 3: she's some vice president has been talking to. But you've
Speaker 3: got the Democratic Unity Platform, whose founder was an excellent
Speaker 3: just want a Nobel prize, and you have an election
Speaker 3: in which this platform, Democratic Unity Platform one six percent.
Speaker 4: It shocks me.
Speaker 3: Unlike Anamal nineteen eighty nine, we're real with toroing Oriega
Speaker 3: imdately had the Panamanian Supreme Court inaugurate the president who had.
Speaker 4: Won an election.
Speaker 3: So they needed to do that yesterday or they needed
Speaker 3: to do it tomorrow.
Speaker 4: They need to have the purged.
Speaker 3: Supreme Court needs to install the man who won the legion.
Speaker 3: It's as simple as that.
Speaker 1: Hey, real quick, do you think we might be facing
Speaker 1: now maybe a new era, a new golden era of colonization,
Speaker 1: of empire building, of expansionism, because you look at what
Speaker 1: we just did in Venezuela. You look at well what
Speaker 1: Moscow has done relative to Ukraine. But you know a
Speaker 1: lot of the Estonia, maybe Poland those countries like that
Speaker 1: could be on the brink.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Beijing looks at and goes, well, we can just take
Speaker 1: to Taiwan. Right now, are we seeing the big three
Speaker 1: being in the United States, China, and Russia moving that
Speaker 1: new age of colonization.
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly right, that's the way Putin and g heard
Speaker 3: that speech.
Speaker 4: Yeah right. And in Latin America.
Speaker 3: Have you lived there, taught there from a long time,
Speaker 3: what they hear is US imperialism. They hear that back, right,
Speaker 3: But you have an interesting moment. You've got uh in Chile, right,
Speaker 3: we do. We overthrown a endy. This are the big
Speaker 3: issue in the US foreign policy. But Chile just elected
Speaker 3: host who's extremely conservative. You know, you can see change
Speaker 3: come about that is very favorable to the US interest.
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not trying to be a nationalist about this,
Speaker 3: but for the first time, maybe this is Marco who's
Speaker 3: influenced for the longest time. After the longest period of time,
Speaker 3: the Latin America is ton of interesting again, and it
Speaker 3: looks like what Trump is saying for the hyperbole of
Speaker 3: the Trump corollary to the Morton or doctor faddle, but
Speaker 3: there's intention suddenly on the Latin America, the anti drugs,
Speaker 3: anti corruption, and markets. So I think there's that moment
Speaker 3: in Latin America, we're favorable for reals interests right now.
Speaker 1: Well, I think I also since a strong you know,
Speaker 1: we're heard Marco Rubio mentioned, well Cuba could be next.
Speaker 1: You're Greenland, right, But what about Mexico. If I'm Mexico,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this going this is a game changer.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, there's a famous adage in Mexico. The
Speaker 3: former president said, the poor Mexico so far from God
Speaker 3: and so.
Speaker 4: Close to the United States.
Speaker 3: And you know, and this is when a president Wilson
Speaker 3: wanted to teach Mexicans how to elect good men.
Speaker 4: So there's that concern.
Speaker 3: No, So if you're worried about Venezuela, which is decisive
Speaker 3: of California, Mexico is a continent done to it so right,
Speaker 3: So that's just some touched But the drug violence there
Speaker 3: is astronomical. I've done a lot of research on drug killings,
Speaker 3: expert witness and courts and drug cases and dealing with
Speaker 3: mexicill I've dealt with political violence against women cases in
Speaker 3: Latin America. Mexico is just massive. It's a democracy as
Speaker 3: a vibrant capitalist economy, but it has you know, there
Speaker 3: are one hundred one thousand disappeared, Achille.
Speaker 4: It was it was a.
Speaker 3: Thousand, one hundred thousands over the last twenty years. So yeah,
Speaker 3: what did to do about MEXICILU But Mexico is not
Speaker 3: ben as well, it's it's too large of a problem.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how to how do you manage that?
Speaker 1: Mark and Silaco at the University of Dayton uh Mark
Speaker 1: former director in the National Studies Program d founder of
Speaker 1: the Human Rights Studies Program and spend a lot of
Speaker 1: time in Latin America. Mark, thanks the time, appreciate it,
Speaker 1: Thank you, all right, all the best. Yeah, Happy New
Speaker 1: Year to you too. Let me get a news update,
Speaker 1: and there're a lot to chew on. There is this
Speaker 1: the new way to just taking stuff up, you know,
Speaker 1: if you're going to start taking countries over Venezuela or
Speaker 1: with the oil.
Speaker 2: We'll get to that a little bit too.
Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure this one makes sense from from
Speaker 1: a monetary standpoint. That sounds good. Go yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: more than other series of oil revenue. Great, but there's
Speaker 1: a problem with that thinking. We'll get into that in
Speaker 1: just a second. But you know, as long as we're
Speaker 1: expanding our footprint here into Latin America. You know there's
Speaker 1: one area that concerns a lot of people, well almost
Speaker 1: all people in this country, when it comes to reducing
Speaker 1: the cost of things. Kind of other country should we
Speaker 1: think about, like Columbia Country. I'll tell you why next
Speaker 1: afternoons lonely back at it this first show with the
Speaker 1: new year, seven hundredule Do Gowty, Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: How dumb you have.
Speaker 1: To be to break the windows at the house of
Speaker 1: the Vice President? I see that's a different level of
Speaker 1: dumb right there. Secret Service called for CPD at quarter
Speaker 1: after twelve on January fifth, this morning, after someone was
Speaker 1: running eastbound after breaking a couple of windows in the
Speaker 1: back of Jade Vance's house.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I get politics and how divided we are and how
Speaker 1: angry people are, But at what point you pick up
Speaker 1: a rock and throw it through the president of the
Speaker 1: window of the president of the vice president the United States.
Speaker 1: You know, most of us could probably have our window broken.
Speaker 1: Somebody throw a rock through a break through your window
Speaker 1: and you'd never catch the persons impossible. But this is
Speaker 1: a different level of stupidity because of the vice president.
Speaker 1: Now you've got the federal government coming after you for
Speaker 1: doing this. For God's sake. I don't. I've been angry before,
Speaker 1: but now let's let's get myself thrown in a federal
Speaker 1: person just so stupid. I wanted the family's home at
Speaker 1: the time too. So there's a lot of concern there
Speaker 1: as well, for sure. For sure, slow me back with
Speaker 1: you here seven hundred WLWU talking to Markan Siolaco, doctor
Speaker 1: Marcin Siloga to ud about what's happening in Venezuela, and
Speaker 1: certainly was, well, I don't I think most of us,
Speaker 1: you know, follow news, did you really see this coming?
Speaker 1: Going Okay, well, we're we're blowing ships up and like,
Speaker 1: and we talked about it, But did you really think
Speaker 1: that at some point we would just swoop in and
Speaker 1: take Maduro and bring them back to the United States,
Speaker 1: you know, outside of the professional protester class, which there
Speaker 1: was plenty of in Cincinnati this and by the way,
Speaker 1: I'd say most people celebrate the fact that this guy
Speaker 1: is out of power. That is a net positive this
Speaker 1: whole thing, simply because of that regime and staying in
Speaker 1: power and ignoring election results and the like. In the
Speaker 1: fact that he's cut that country's GDP by like two
Speaker 1: thirds since taken over. So there's a lot of Venezuelan's
Speaker 1: expats who are celebrating that he is no longer in power. However,
Speaker 1: care of what you wish for, you might just get it,
Speaker 1: because when it comes to changing authoritarian regimes and turning
Speaker 1: them to democracies, we're really we're not very good at it.
Speaker 1: We've done it none of oka and smaller scales. But
Speaker 1: this is pretty big, as Ensilaka was talking about. But
Speaker 1: the idea now that if you're Russia in China, you
Speaker 1: look at this going ooh, it's open season. Maybe the
Speaker 1: United States, maybe we're finally it's time to rethink that
Speaker 1: whole notion that you know, we're going to let countries
Speaker 1: rise and fall become enemies of the United States. And
Speaker 1: now we're maybe in the new area here of imperialism.
Speaker 1: We're just going to start taking territories over. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, history does repeat itself, and we're seeing that.
Speaker 1: We saw that with Russia. What's going on in Ukraine
Speaker 1: and elsewhere. That may give Putin an opportunity to go, Okay,
Speaker 1: well we're going to go after other states in that region.
Speaker 1: China for sure, what happens with Taiwan, it feels like
Speaker 1: it's almost a foregone conclusion. They're going to take the
Speaker 1: Taiwan over and maybe the United States going well, instead
Speaker 1: of all this heady, feel good, Hey, we've got to stand.
Speaker 2: Up for democrat.
Speaker 1: Maybe we should just go back to the way it
Speaker 1: used to be before isolationism going Okay, now we're just
Speaker 1: going to start taking territories over again, because as I said,
Speaker 1: history repeats itself if you're going to go down that road. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Venezuela and is certain of Venezuela certainly is one for
Speaker 1: the oil, which we'll revisit in just a second here.
Speaker 1: But over the holidays, and I often just in the
Speaker 1: morning when I go get coffee, we'll just fire a
Speaker 1: couple curing pods and my cure egg and take that
Speaker 1: because you know, get it out the door, ready to
Speaker 1: go and drink in my coffee. I don't have to
Speaker 1: wait in line, get off the highway and anything like that.
Speaker 1: It's about simplicity for me. Plus, I'm just a creamer guy. Coffee,
Speaker 1: dark dark roast coffee with a little creamer in it,
Speaker 1: and that makes me happy at my one big cup
Speaker 1: of coffee a day. Generally, I'm a one cup of coffee,
Speaker 1: big cup of caf eighteen ounce cup a day in
Speaker 1: the morning to get going, and sometimes I mean even
Speaker 1: more than that. But when you're out over the holidays,
Speaker 1: obviously stop and grab a couple of coffee. Because Michelle
Speaker 1: same way. She just drinks it. She drinks HER's black,
Speaker 1: a little sweetener in it. And it was over ten bucks.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at them. It's not like I had some
Speaker 1: sort of you know, whipped top. I had whipped cream
Speaker 1: and sprinkles, and I had a soy latte and extra
Speaker 1: ones like a gallon size. It's just like two cups
Speaker 1: of good sized cups of coffee. But still like, damn,
Speaker 1: that's expensive. If we're going after imperial as, if we're
Speaker 1: starting to take countries over, can I make a suggestion?
Speaker 1: How about Columbia? I know, I think Brazil is the
Speaker 1: biggest exporter of coffee, but Brazil feels like, kind of
Speaker 1: maybe that's just a bit too far. We're taking places.
Speaker 1: Columbia seems more acceptable. I think they're just below bra
Speaker 1: for coffee exportation. She'd be like, why don't we start
Speaker 1: If we took Columbia over, could could that bring the
Speaker 1: cup of coffee down to you know, what's reasonable? A
Speaker 1: couple of bucks. I just I just I'm making suggestions.
Speaker 1: I'm just spitballing. As long as we're taking as long
Speaker 1: as we're invading countries and putting our regimes there, could
Speaker 1: we could we start a wish list places says like, okay,
Speaker 1: if we took over most of Latin Mexico, you just
Speaker 1: think that one's like, Wow, it'd take care of the
Speaker 1: border issue for sure.
Speaker 2: But I don't think we we can.
Speaker 1: We can barely manage the United States, right, And then
Speaker 1: some make a good argument going, we can't even handle
Speaker 1: run in this country, and now we're expanding our territory.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, but as long as we're doing corporate
Speaker 1: takeovers here, it's like, okay, when the next on the list,
Speaker 1: I don't know about Cuba, it'd be nice for you know, vacation,
Speaker 1: they believe it or not, despite the terrible regime that's
Speaker 1: been there for a long time. One of the one
Speaker 1: of the biggest environmentals you talk about, like the reefs
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. I guess it's pristine. I've never been,
Speaker 1: but I've heard it's like, yeah, they really, they really
Speaker 1: take care of the environment off the Coasta, So you know,
Speaker 1: Are we gonna start to see out on McDonald's and
Speaker 1: Starbucks pretty soon and in Cuba? If we do that,
Speaker 1: Mexico comes to Greenland to be another one? Or are
Speaker 1: we gonna invade Greenland at some point here for the
Speaker 1: natural resources and expanding our foot pritty from Mark No, No,
Speaker 1: But can we move Columbia up a little bit? It
Speaker 1: seems like that's a country now? In Columbia, Well, don't
Speaker 1: they do drugs? Generally coffee, but coco. It's an we
Speaker 1: just take that one. That'd be one like no one
Speaker 1: had noticed. It's like when we made Hawaii the fifties state.
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, Alaska, Wi sure, why not? God for sake?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's nice, that's tropical. So we got a little Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: let's do that.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna advocate for the expansion of the Columbia next
Speaker 1: to bring down the damn coffee prices.
Speaker 2: Beef would be another one. I guess, yeah, that's a
Speaker 2: good one. Go for the beef. But you know, we
Speaker 2: had a drought, we had disease. That's probably going to
Speaker 2: right the ship.
Speaker 1: There is going to write, But I don't know if
Speaker 1: we just take over a country and go get some
Speaker 1: argent argent You know, do you take over Argentina in
Speaker 1: that matter too to get the beef prices down?
Speaker 2: Were just where does this keep going? Is be the
Speaker 2: big question?
Speaker 1: Something else happening this week, and the first with the
Speaker 1: key of the year would be the Consumer Electronics Show
Speaker 1: in Vegas. If you're a guy, generally speaking, it kind
Speaker 1: of like techie stuff and some of the ones to
Speaker 1: look for this year at the consumer electronics shows, By
Speaker 1: the way, was founded in nineteen sixty seven. Hard to
Speaker 1: believe it's been going on that long. I wonder I
Speaker 1: have to go back and look and see what was
Speaker 1: the hot tech in nineteen sixty seven. Probably bigger color TVs.
Speaker 1: I'd imagine that doesn't change this year. There's a new
Speaker 1: technology out there called micro RGB. I'm guessing the RGB
Speaker 1: is red, green, blue, and that is the next generation
Speaker 1: in color and contrast. I suppose because we had a
Speaker 1: micro LEDs now and I guess micro RGB is the
Speaker 1: next generation of making your TV pop. They have and
Speaker 1: I think this issung one hundred and thirty inch micro
Speaker 1: RGBTV and I think they have thrown the I don't
Speaker 1: know if this is the trend or not. But they
Speaker 1: might be throwing the towel in on wall mounted TVs
Speaker 1: because most people don't wal mount the flat mounts. I'm
Speaker 1: sick in the head and I like doing that stuff,
Speaker 1: so yeah, I'll run the cable and electrical and hide
Speaker 1: the chords and all that stuff as well.
Speaker 2: Most people just you know, put it on.
Speaker 1: A pedestal or have the chords hanging down and get
Speaker 1: you know, eleven extension chords out and do it that way.
Speaker 1: And maybe they're throwing the townel because this thing is
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty inch TV that is framed by
Speaker 1: a giant metal I got.
Speaker 2: The best way to call it. This is an easel,
Speaker 2: so picture it.
Speaker 1: It's a big rectangular frame, thin steel frame, and then
Speaker 1: inset in the frame on little pivot points on the
Speaker 1: axis is the TV itself, so you can kind of
Speaker 1: tilt it like a like a mirror almost, But the
Speaker 1: frame sits on the ground and it covers up obvious
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty inches most of the hole and
Speaker 1: you would mount your TV that way, so it just
Speaker 1: stands alone now, which is kind of cool.
Speaker 2: Actually.
Speaker 1: Price tagging this bad boy, the one hundred and thirty
Speaker 1: incher thirty thousand dollars, So now maybe not for most
Speaker 1: of us, if not all of us at that point
Speaker 1: thirty thousand dollars TV, and that's probably more of a
Speaker 1: proof of concept thing I would guess is that you know,
Speaker 1: future ones are going to be a little smaller and
Speaker 1: more accessible, but still when they roll out this new stuff,
Speaker 1: obviously very cost prohibitive. They also doing a new line
Speaker 1: of speakers will look kind of cool. They've got a
Speaker 1: new sound bar out that is a seven point one
Speaker 1: point two soundbar and the point two, I guess would
Speaker 1: mean two subwolfers in it, thirteen drivers and four subwiffers.
Speaker 1: Wonder how much of that thing weighs. Hang that on
Speaker 1: your wall and possibly the coolest to encounter. There's some
Speaker 1: and there's some gaming stuff new VR head where headsets
Speaker 1: and things like that. But this is an interesting one
Speaker 1: with AI integrated into everything right now is one I
Speaker 1: must be a TV where AA you can use AI
Speaker 1: AI speakers to cancel out announcers. For example, So if
Speaker 1: you don't like a lot of people, certainly not here
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, not fans of Chris Collinsworth, you you can
Speaker 1: have any AI take out Chris collins Worth. I don't
Speaker 1: know that's good for the future of art business.
Speaker 2: Here my quote. Sure, if you don't like the sound
Speaker 2: of someone's voices, that's it. AI.
Speaker 1: You can turn the commentators off in sporting events and
Speaker 1: just have the crowd noise, which is that's kind of interesting.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you really don't need it. Depending on the sport too,
Speaker 1: you really don't. Do you really need to play by
Speaker 1: play as much? I mean, look at what ESPN's done
Speaker 1: with the paytent cast right where it's not you know,
Speaker 1: you don't have the play by play games. Guys just
Speaker 1: talking about it like you're sitting around a bar or
Speaker 1: something like that with a sound down. I suppose that's
Speaker 1: the next iteration of that, is AI noise canceled, canceling
Speaker 1: out the announcers or I guess other things that you
Speaker 1: don't want to hear during a game. I'm know you
Speaker 1: can take the crowd noise out, just hear the announce
Speaker 1: I suppose you could with AI. It's entirely possible, and
Speaker 1: at some point you think you could be able to put,
Speaker 1: you know, bring John Madden back to life and have
Speaker 1: him do the content.
Speaker 2: Where the where the where.
Speaker 1: AI basically takes the words of the current play by
Speaker 1: play team, and I don't know, you could have Snoop
Speaker 1: Dogg and Martha Stewart call a game if you wanted to.
Speaker 1: They just used the words, but do it in their
Speaker 1: own voices. The future is limitless, it really really is.
Speaker 1: Don't know how much the AI canceling thing costs, but
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be more than the thirty k at
Speaker 1: Chine hundred and thirty inch TV. An amazing part about
Speaker 1: that is it's, you know, as we talk about the
Speaker 1: prices of things, and I was kind of tongue and
Speaker 1: she talk about invading Columbia bring the coffee prices down.
Speaker 1: I wonder, you know, in the future, if we start
Speaker 1: looking when it comes to, you know, the cost of electron,
Speaker 1: it's like electronics if you look back.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I was looking at something recently.
Speaker 1: It was kind of old school locally here and I think,
Speaker 1: like a, I don't know, twenty five state of the
Speaker 1: art nineteen seventy five or seventy seven, or or was
Speaker 1: twenty five inch color TV console, you know, the big old'
Speaker 1: common of the fake wood paneling, and it'd be like
Speaker 1: the center play piece you're living. It's like five hundred
Speaker 1: dollars for one of those TVs at twenty five inches,
Speaker 1: and now I mean, how like for five hundred dollars
Speaker 1: you can get a sixty inch TV and even bigger
Speaker 1: for that matter, for much much cheaper. So that is
Speaker 1: one thing when it comes to electronics, the cost of
Speaker 1: that and the accessibility has become much much better than
Speaker 1: it has in the past, despite inflation and all that.
Speaker 1: And you mentioned the oil thing, and we've talked about
Speaker 1: the Venezuela and oil. I think it's interesting. You know,
Speaker 1: the idea here is we're going to have cheaper oil,
Speaker 1: and I still think I know people disagree, but you know,
Speaker 1: the whole drug thing was a pretext because we want
Speaker 1: to get the oil. But you know, if you think
Speaker 1: about it, it's oil right now is pretty cheap. No
Speaker 1: one's really complaining about gas price. Is the one thing
Speaker 1: Trump can turn to, even though presidents generally don't have
Speaker 1: a big hand in that, is the fact that you know,
Speaker 1: gas prices have gone down since he's taken over, and
Speaker 1: I think this is probably a way politically to exacerbate that,
Speaker 1: and like, hey, look we're gonna get really serious about energy,
Speaker 1: energy costs, an accessibility to oil. You know, we're already
Speaker 1: drilling in the golf. We open the golf back up
Speaker 1: Golf of America or Mexico if you're old school to
Speaker 1: drilling there. But the other side of that, though, is
Speaker 1: too is like, well, if gas already cheap, then what
Speaker 1: incentive do gas manufactured the people who actually go out
Speaker 1: and get the gas and drill these companies, why would
Speaker 1: they go to Venezuela. First of all, it's all up
Speaker 1: in the air. You don't have any idea what's going
Speaker 1: to happen with the regime. And it's not like, hey,
Speaker 1: you go and it doesn't work out. It's not like
Speaker 1: putting McDonald's in Moscow. Hey it doesn't work out, we
Speaker 1: just close the store. I mean, you're talking about tens
Speaker 1: of millions, if not billions of dollars in investment just
Speaker 1: to start the process. And so if you put all
Speaker 1: that capital into Venezuela and it's up in the air
Speaker 1: as to what's going to happen with the regime there
Speaker 1: and what's going to happen, why would you take that risk?
Speaker 1: Wouldn't you just take that money and then just invest
Speaker 1: it back into the Gulf of Mexico, the Golf of
Speaker 1: America or the premium basin in Texas. You know that's
Speaker 1: not going anywhere. And if I were oil baron which
Speaker 1: I'm not, I put my money in the known commodity.
Speaker 1: We're safe. There's a certain amount of risk just thrilling
Speaker 1: for oil. If you watch Landman, you get it. I
Speaker 1: think a decent I always talk to us. Should have
Speaker 1: got a guest come up and ask him about that.
Speaker 1: How real Landman is. But yeah, its cost it. It's
Speaker 1: incredible on money and risky to try and drill for oil.
Speaker 1: I mean it's risky enough here in the States, in
Speaker 1: the Permian basin. It's going to be much much risk
Speaker 1: here to invest with all that money in Venezuela, considering
Speaker 1: the political climate and what the hell's going to happen.
Speaker 2: Can't imagine. No, we're gonna do this and we're just
Speaker 2: gonna run it.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: I think we're going to start taking the oil reserves
Speaker 2: out quickly.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's gonna happen or not quite honestly,
Speaker 1: but we shall see, we shall see. We've got news
Speaker 1: on the way in about seven eight minutes here on
Speaker 1: seven hundred WW Richard Harrison stands by with the Hamil
Speaker 1: County Water District. You hear a lot about microplastic in
Speaker 1: this time of year as we start to ramp up
Speaker 1: the news cycle again because there's really not a hell
Speaker 1: of a lot going outside of Venezuela. You hear about
Speaker 1: a lot about microplastics and what of the fact that
Speaker 1: fiction here when it comes to our drinking water here
Speaker 1: in the Tri State for sure. So he'll jump in
Speaker 1: next later on the show, Julie Hattersheer and Scott angel
Speaker 1: Is the oil expert I was talking about and what
Speaker 1: this actually means for energy prices all to some war.
Speaker 1: We'll talk to Scott about in just a few minutes
Speaker 1: as well. Breaking news out of Cleveland this morning, Kevin
Speaker 1: Stefanski has been fired as the Browns head coach. He
Speaker 1: goes out with a win yesterday at PEKR Stadium. So
Speaker 1: the Browns fired their head coach despite the fact they won.
Speaker 1: No word about our coach and Zach Taylor and Cincinnatian
Speaker 1: one would believe that his job is safe because I
Speaker 1: think with the I think of this organization you have
Speaker 1: if you go to the playoffs, but let alone with
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, you're good for fifteen years. I really
Speaker 1: believe that's the case. Now you went to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Wait a year five, You're fine, No big deal, think Stefanski.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they're gonna Bengals fans going, well, what about
Speaker 1: bringing Kevin Stefanski down. He wouldn't have to change driver's license.
Speaker 1: That's true. It's a big plus because it's a pain
Speaker 1: in the butt going the d I don't care who
Speaker 1: you are, how much money you have, you got to
Speaker 1: go to the DMV yourself to change your driver's license.
Speaker 1: It could be incentive there for him to come to Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: But how much of an upgrade really? I think you're
Speaker 1: getting an upgrade, but I don't know it could be
Speaker 1: all that much. With Stefanski, two time Coach of the
Speaker 1: Year is pretty good and as we know, it's not
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor and willing to give him a pass or
Speaker 1: sometimes simply because things have to change relative to the
Speaker 1: personnel that you draft, but also go back to what
Speaker 1: you did a few years ago free agency, hopefully to decide, hey,
Speaker 1: we're going to go in and push our chips in
Speaker 1: the middle of the table. Now do they have the
Speaker 1: resources in the front office to get that kind of talent? Well,
Speaker 1: they have in the past, it's easier to get talent
Speaker 1: and free agency than it is to draft. And you know,
Speaker 1: with the NFL Draft coming on end to April, and
Speaker 1: it's not like we keep hearing ay, yeah, they've ad
Speaker 1: more bodies and specialists and the like in order to
Speaker 1: assert discern which which players to get which not. So
Speaker 1: you know, we still manage to have the smallest scouting
Speaker 1: staff and all of the National Football League despite any
Speaker 1: a few bodies, but we're woefully behind that category. That
Speaker 1: those are the things that have to change if you
Speaker 1: hope for success in the future at the Bengals, because
Speaker 1: right now it looks like that Super Bowl run was
Speaker 1: just in the AFC Championship games were lightning in a bottle,
Speaker 1: like we had a bunch of guys got you, no
Speaker 1: one saw it coming, and you were able to take
Speaker 1: over the league. Well, now the rest of league has
Speaker 1: caught up and surpassed you in so many ways, let
Speaker 1: alone the defense. But anyway, Kevin Stefanski gone the next
Speaker 1: head coach. I don't know if you're gonna hear any
Speaker 1: more today. I would think that after the wild card run,
Speaker 1: if you get some teams that wind up losing in
Speaker 1: the wild Card rown next week weekend, you're gonna hear
Speaker 1: maybe some more coaching changes if there's some upsets in
Speaker 1: there as well. Anyway, we got all that morek to come,
Speaker 1: including news in about five here on the home of
Speaker 1: the best Bengals coverage. Let's change that the home of
Speaker 1: the Reds seven hundred WW Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: Do want to be an American idiot?
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty six got so long?
Speaker 1: But on seven hundred WW had I hope you had
Speaker 1: an enjoyable one, be it Christmas, New Years or whatever
Speaker 1: the hell does you do?
Speaker 2: Get some downtime for you? That's good.
Speaker 1: One of the things you don't think about, So it's
Speaker 1: a good time to I don't know, touch on these
Speaker 1: things this time of here, when it slows down a
Speaker 1: little bit, to put your little thinking hat on would
Speaker 1: be the state of our water supply.
Speaker 2: Well, often don't think about that.
Speaker 1: Right you turn your tap on, you have a glass
Speaker 1: of water, you make, boil, some pasta, something along the
Speaker 1: lines wherever, you don't think too much about it. As
Speaker 1: we know, for years now we have started to learn
Speaker 1: more and more about microplastics that are in our water system,
Speaker 1: and of course enough of that in you will kill
Speaker 1: you because it's a known carcinogen.
Speaker 2: So what is the state of our water supply here
Speaker 2: in the Buckeye State.
Speaker 1: There's been a lot with the EPA that's been made
Speaker 1: and special federally Ohio EPN or Mike and Whine did
Speaker 1: this a few years to get a study to find
Speaker 1: out where the stuff is coming from, to try and
Speaker 1: figure out the source. And if you look at a
Speaker 1: map of our local water treatment plants, we have two
Speaker 1: big ones here. We have the Richard Miller Frank Harris
Speaker 1: Senior Treatment Plant that's the source of about oh ninety
Speaker 1: percent of our water in Cincinnati, and then the other
Speaker 1: one is the Cincinnati water Works facility I think up
Speaker 1: in the in I want to say Fairfield area too
Speaker 1: as well, that supplies some drinking water. But I don't
Speaker 1: know much about that other than I turned the foster
Speaker 1: to the shower head on and stuff comes out, and
Speaker 1: I hope it's okay to drink and use. The guy
Speaker 1: that could tell me not to do that is Richard Harrison.
Speaker 1: He's the executive Director and chief engineer for the Ohio
Speaker 1: River Valley Water Sanitation Commission known as ARONSCO.
Speaker 2: Richard, welcome back.
Speaker 5: To the show.
Speaker 6: Good to have you. Thank you, Scott. I appreciate you
Speaker 6: inviting me to join you today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know this is well. I mean, I guess
Speaker 1: what comes out of the faucet. It's outside of your
Speaker 1: scope because you do more with intake in the waterways.
Speaker 1: But that's where this thing starts. If we can stop
Speaker 1: this stuff from getting into the water, it's a more
Speaker 1: cost effective solution than trying to treat it to the end.
Speaker 1: It's always the case, is whether it's this or healthcare
Speaker 1: or anything else for that matter. But let's start with
Speaker 1: the pfas saying what do we need to know about this,
Speaker 1: where does it come from, and what are the links
Speaker 1: to our health?
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 6: PFASs is a very complex group of chemicals and the
Speaker 6: technical name for them is per and polypori alcohol substances.
Speaker 6: As you correctly noted, p FOSS is how they are
Speaker 6: known through their acronym, and they are a group of
Speaker 6: man made chemicals that are found everywhere. They're applied to
Speaker 6: many consumer goods to make them waterproof, stain resistant, or
Speaker 6: non stick. They're also used in products like cosmetics, fast
Speaker 6: food packaging, and types of firefighting foam. Specifically, something called
Speaker 6: a triple F so they're essentially everywhere. They're very long
Speaker 6: lasting chemicals by design, they're man made chemicals, and that
Speaker 6: was the attraction to them back in the forties when
Speaker 6: these chemicals were identified and created and put together because
Speaker 6: of those tendencies that they last an extensive period of time.
Speaker 6: It can take several years for them the breakdown within
Speaker 6: our bodies. That's why there's also culled furbal chemicals.
Speaker 2: Okay, so what happens is kind of like a lead poisoning.
Speaker 2: For example.
Speaker 1: We know your body doesn't create a waste product for it.
Speaker 1: It accumulates, So the more you're exposed to it, the
Speaker 1: more it builds up in your body.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, and because they can come from from anywhere, many
Speaker 6: many pathways, and of course we're talking about drinking water
Speaker 6: as one of those pathways, but certainly they come from
Speaker 6: other pathways the air, food products, again, clothing. So it's
Speaker 6: a challenge.
Speaker 1: Well, your job is tasked with trying to prevent it
Speaker 1: from getting in the drinking water supply in the first place.
Speaker 6: How's that going, Well, maybe we can step back and
Speaker 6: just talk about the process. So USCPA has invested a
Speaker 6: lot of resources in trying to determine how to remove
Speaker 6: these chemicals from many different sources. And we're talking about
Speaker 6: drinking water, so as we talked about the rivers and
Speaker 6: waters what we work with within the Higowa Basin. Of course,
Speaker 6: the Higher River is the largest body of water. They're
Speaker 6: approaching this from several different directions. Of course, drinking water
Speaker 6: is one which we're talking about to day, but also
Speaker 6: there's something called the Clean Water Act, so we're talking
Speaker 6: about the Safe Drinking Water Act, and we talked about
Speaker 6: maximum contaminate levels and regulations for utilities. But also when
Speaker 6: you talk about the Clean Water Act, you're talking about
Speaker 6: the sources of water, and we talk about making water fishable, swimmable,
Speaker 6: and drinkable. And that's ensuring that the Higher River and
Speaker 6: other surface waters are suitable for fish being able to
Speaker 6: live and survive bugs, macro verbrates, but also for human
Speaker 6: health we consume fish, and also the utilities have to
Speaker 6: have a water supply that is safe, so that's a
Speaker 6: whole other area. We're expecting to have draft criteria for
Speaker 6: the surface waters for human health later this summer, and
Speaker 6: that's really when Orsenko we'll get more involved with our
Speaker 6: partner states to really figure out what's next?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 2: So we should people be freaking out about this.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's been it's you said, it's been the
Speaker 1: better ren since the forties, and it's taken a while
Speaker 1: for getting our drinking water. And it's probably a case
Speaker 1: where our equipment and our testing abilities have gotten much
Speaker 1: much better, more granular, if you will. And so we're
Speaker 1: now we're seeing stuff we never could see before. But
Speaker 1: we know that this is a known cursin egen, that
Speaker 1: it causes some bad things to happen within the human body,
Speaker 1: and obviously we want to prevent that as well. But
Speaker 1: how concerned should we be? Do you drink out of
Speaker 1: the water the water you're talking about? You turning your
Speaker 1: faucet on, you're drinking tap? Are you doing doing bottle?
Speaker 5: Richard?
Speaker 6: I do tap? So I used to be the vice
Speaker 6: president of engineering, production and Distribution for North Kentucky Water District,
Speaker 6: one of the large utilities on the High River. And
Speaker 6: we're very fortunate that Kentucky Water District. Then, of course,
Speaker 6: gar used to state water works to the majority of
Speaker 6: their water adds grainuar activated carbon treatments to their process
Speaker 6: and that has been shown to be very effective. Ever,
Speaker 6: removing carbon.
Speaker 4: But I drink tap water.
Speaker 6: I feel very comfortable with it. A lot of discussion
Speaker 6: here is about overall risk. These compounds are everywhere. I'm
Speaker 6: very proud to be part of a water resource sector
Speaker 6: that works so hard to protect our drinking water supply
Speaker 6: in our river. So I think it's a matter of
Speaker 6: risk and balancing risk, and there's a lot we don't know.
Speaker 6: There are over let's see here. Let me make sure
Speaker 6: I give you the right information. But we're talking about
Speaker 6: over one hundred and sixty million chemicals are known through
Speaker 6: the World Health Organization, about eighty five thousand of these
Speaker 6: USCPA lists on the Inventory of substances through the Toxic
Speaker 6: Substances Control Act. There are over four thousand pifoss chemicals
Speaker 6: in less than one hundred are regulated through MCL. So
Speaker 6: this is extremely complex. You covered it very well when
Speaker 6: you mentioned we're learning more. We now know that through
Speaker 6: EPA toxicity studies that there's actually more p huss in
Speaker 6: rain water than is considered to be protective in terms
Speaker 6: of human health. And so this is very complex. So
Speaker 6: there's a lot we don't know, and it's a matter
Speaker 6: of just balancing risk. We all pay for this response
Speaker 6: through as customers. So we're customers of wonderful water utilities,
Speaker 6: wastewater utilities, and it's just a matter of how much
Speaker 6: investment goes into this and benefit costs ratios. So this
Speaker 6: is very complex, but it's certainly not something I'm losing sleepover,
Speaker 6: but it is important that we continue to understand these
Speaker 6: chemicals and remove them at the sources if possible.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the key, because it goes in the rain water,
Speaker 1: then that goes to water our crops, the food that
Speaker 1: we eat goes into our drinking water through groundwater, through
Speaker 1: the rivers and streams, et cetera, et cetera. Richard Harrison,
Speaker 1: active Director and Chief Engineer for the Ohio River Valley
Speaker 1: Water Sanitation Commission ARONSCO is what they're called. These are
Speaker 1: the folks who test our drinking water. And there's concern
Speaker 1: over something called pifos p fas, and those are basically
Speaker 1: microplastics that accumulate in your body. So plastics do break
Speaker 1: down to some degree that gets in the drinking water
Speaker 1: and it's so fine that the filtration systems in the
Speaker 1: carbon it doesn't catch that, and it builds up in
Speaker 1: your body over time and it's a known carcinogen. We
Speaker 1: don't know the long term I mean, I guess we
Speaker 1: do know the long long term effects. But that is
Speaker 1: the current target now for water treatment people like Richard
Speaker 1: to try and eliminate that from our water system, if
Speaker 1: that's indeed possible. Now, Ohio, we're still pretty good considering
Speaker 1: other states New Jersey probably manufacturing and military, Michigan more
Speaker 1: automotive manufacturing, and therefore you have a lot of chemicals
Speaker 1: that are in the groundwater supply, which is why they're
Speaker 1: seeing levels that are over the top.
Speaker 2: Here in Ohio not as much.
Speaker 1: However, I will say that I was looking at two
Speaker 1: of our bigger plants here, the Harris Treatment plant to
Speaker 1: ge it provides about ninety percent of Cincinnati's water. They
Speaker 1: didn't find any measurable levels there, But if you go
Speaker 1: up to Fairfield, the plant there said they were almost
Speaker 1: in the danger zone. It's really not that far away
Speaker 1: as far as distance goes. But how do you describe
Speaker 1: the disparity one plant showing no results the other one.
Speaker 1: The Neil's moving pretty well well, Skot.
Speaker 6: You talked a little bit earlier in our conversation about
Speaker 6: the technology and the level of detections. What I find
Speaker 6: fascinating is through uscpa's research, and to be clear or
Speaker 6: Senko does not work in the toxicology end of things.
Speaker 6: We work in the monitoring response to skills. I spoke
Speaker 6: with you last year about our response to these Palestine
Speaker 6: chemical train derailment still and so our area is working
Speaker 6: on the water quality and one of the challenges we
Speaker 6: have is now UCPA has determined that the levels of
Speaker 6: these are in the parts for quadrulean, and the technology
Speaker 6: to actually measure these are into parts of petroleum. So
Speaker 6: we're trying to find these and levels that are a
Speaker 6: thousand times more stringent then we can actually measure them.
Speaker 6: So it is something that is a challenge. And so
Speaker 6: when you talk about disparities between cretent plants, it's important
Speaker 6: to understand that when USCPA puts together these types of regulations,
Speaker 6: they're looking at a lifetime risk and it's based upon
Speaker 6: an average person around one hundred and fifty pounds, which
Speaker 6: I certainly am over that, but they're looking at consuming
Speaker 6: a half gallon of water every day over seventy years
Speaker 6: and a one in a million increase in cancer risk.
Speaker 6: And we're very fortunate to have this type of work
Speaker 6: to protect us from a risk standpoint, But it is
Speaker 6: important to understand what goes into these types of calculations
Speaker 6: and they are determined in a way to be very
Speaker 6: protective of human hell, so the variations, you know, we're
Speaker 6: talking about parts petrillion, it's really difficult to even measure
Speaker 6: these below four parts petrilliu in terms of accuracy. And
Speaker 6: so this is an evolving science and we're only talking
Speaker 6: about a handful out of four thousand pfus chemicals. So
Speaker 6: it's something that there'll be more work in this USCPA
Speaker 6: every five years does what they.
Speaker 4: Call a.
Speaker 6: Contaminant monitoring process the Safe Drinking Water Act, and there's
Speaker 6: over twenty of these being looked at in the current ones.
Speaker 6: So this is an ongoing effort.
Speaker 1: Richard Harrison, what may ask, are we just trying to
Speaker 1: scare people the compliance and you're telling me the equipment
Speaker 1: we have can't even measure and the great greatest detail
Speaker 1: of what this stuff is in our bodies. I mean,
Speaker 1: let's face it, the air that we breathe, the milk
Speaker 1: that we drink, the food we consume, it all has
Speaker 1: something toxic in it. I mean, you know there's arsenic
Speaker 1: in our food, but it's trace amounts. There's rat poop
Speaker 1: in your cheerios, but it's trace amounts. Is any different.
Speaker 6: I'm very proud to work in a field that is
Speaker 6: so protective. USCPA follows the law to say Drinking Water
Speaker 6: Act when they put this together. I'm not the right
Speaker 6: person to talk about toxic coology. I will say that
Speaker 6: risk is a question and it's something that we have
Speaker 6: to look at. They're doing their job, they're looking at
Speaker 6: the science as where they's drinking water. But as you say,
Speaker 6: there is risk from everything, and so just the water infrastructure.
Speaker 6: You know, I always like to say every dollar we
Speaker 6: invest as customers in a new regulation makes it harder
Speaker 6: to put that dollar in replacement of water bots. And
Speaker 6: so it's something that is very complex and we all
Speaker 6: have to be engaged in this. We have to understand it.
Speaker 6: We're the ones that are paying for this through our
Speaker 6: rates as customers, and I'm knowing working with our utilities,
Speaker 6: we're lucky to have incredible drinking water utilities in our areas.
Speaker 6: So I'm not going to touch a political question. That's
Speaker 6: not where our sinker gets gets involved. But it's a
Speaker 6: fair question to talk about the overall risk and just balancing.
Speaker 1: That because you hear this stuff and people usually it's
Speaker 1: new parents start freaking out about this stuff and they
Speaker 1: start washing there.
Speaker 2: You know, they have their dishwasher.
Speaker 1: Water coming out of a giant bottle of Desani and
Speaker 1: it's cost prohibitive and everything else. If I use like
Speaker 1: a Britta filter on top of my tap water, does
Speaker 1: a Britta filter take this stuff out or reverse osmosis?
Speaker 6: Well, I won't talk about Britta because it's a brand name,
Speaker 6: but I will say that there are filters that can
Speaker 6: be added if if folks want to do that, they can.
Speaker 6: They can certainly contact their their doctors if they're if
Speaker 6: they're concerned about this. So keep in mind that the
Speaker 6: SDA currently is not regulating bottle of water for pifoss
Speaker 6: and so this is very complex. I would I would
Speaker 6: just talk to folks in which I'm doing, and just
Speaker 6: that it's all. It's all about balance, it's understanding how
Speaker 6: complex this is. And USCPA is doing their job, or
Speaker 6: State EPA is Ohio EPA, Kentucky Divisional Water, Indiana Department
Speaker 6: Environment Management, they all work within this area. They're they're
Speaker 6: working as hard as they can on this and This
Speaker 6: is complex and it's all about managing risk in safety
Speaker 6: and following the lulls that that we we have approved
Speaker 6: through Congress, say Drinking Water Act, Clean Water Acting. So
Speaker 6: that's what USCPA is trying to do. They would have
Speaker 6: they would be the ones to talk to you about
Speaker 6: all the science behind it. This is very complex.
Speaker 2: Scott, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, if if you're so inclined, you know, you
Speaker 1: could do a filter system. I use the word britt
Speaker 1: of because it's like clean X or Jello. It's a
Speaker 1: it's a brand name that's become common. And I look
Speaker 1: at this and go, okay, yeah, look at the risk.
Speaker 1: Listen to what you had to say. You know, you're
Speaker 1: drinking the tap water. You see this stuff under a microscope.
Speaker 2: We don't. And if it's good enough for you, it's
Speaker 2: good enough for me.
Speaker 1: I sleep well knowing that the drinking water being policed
Speaker 1: by yourself, people like yourself, and you're more at the
Speaker 1: source end. We talked during the East Palestine disaster about
Speaker 1: the plume that was traveling down the Ohio River. You
Speaker 1: guys had it all timed out saying, oh, we're tracking it.
Speaker 1: Everything's good.
Speaker 2: It moved out. It dissipated and all is well at
Speaker 2: this point too.
Speaker 1: So if you want to lose sleep over this and
Speaker 1: get down a rabbit hole, I'm sure there's stuff online
Speaker 1: that'll scare the hell out of you. However, it is
Speaker 1: safe to say that most of us aren't one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty pounds. I would like to talk next to
Speaker 1: if you, I'm gonna have Richard as a guy who
Speaker 1: sets the average weight for Americans because I think he's
Speaker 1: a little drunk.
Speaker 6: Well that's that's the science behind develop these criterias. But
Speaker 6: I'm not near one hundred and fifty pounds.
Speaker 7: I just flew.
Speaker 1: I just flew, and there are maybe two people on
Speaker 1: the plane there were one hundred and fifty pounds, and
Speaker 1: it included the toddlers.
Speaker 2: So yeah, well, I mean it's true.
Speaker 1: So what you're saying is if you weigh more, then
Speaker 1: you can absorb, you can absorb more p foss or
Speaker 1: is that true or.
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna really say that. What I'm saying is
Speaker 6: the background that USCPA uses to complete their studies, and
Speaker 6: so it's important to understand when criteria put out it's
Speaker 6: it's based on a specific methodology that they follow from
Speaker 6: a science basis.
Speaker 2: I was trying to make an excuse and say, see
Speaker 2: that's the upside to obesity. You can.
Speaker 1: Richard Harrison, the executive director, is the chief engineer at
Speaker 1: the Ohio River Valley Water Sanitation Commission. He's the guy
Speaker 1: policing our water sources in and around Ohio and elsewhere.
Speaker 1: And Richard, I appreciate you coming on the show. I
Speaker 1: know I didn't want you talking out over your skis
Speaker 1: a little bit there. I asked you some questions that
Speaker 1: were outside of your scope, but I appreciate you coming
Speaker 1: on and trying to give us a basic understanding whether
Speaker 1: or not our drinking water is safe.
Speaker 6: And it sounds like it is always a pleasure. Scott,
Speaker 6: take care.
Speaker 1: Thank you once again, and we've got a news update
Speaker 1: in just minutes. Here our first Mental Health Monday update.
Speaker 1: Julie Hattershar's next Scott's loan seven hundred w. Everyone needs
Speaker 1: he every now and then, and she'sier to help us
Speaker 1: get our heads right.
Speaker 2: This is Mental Health Monday with Mental health expert Julie Hattershire. Yeah,
Speaker 2: first one of the new year.
Speaker 1: Here we are on the fifth day of January and
Speaker 1: the resolutions have been gone for four and a half days.
Speaker 1: It's awesome. Four and a half days, Julie, welcome back.
Speaker 1: How are you, my friend?
Speaker 7: Hey, I'm great. Happy New Year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just too hard to do those resolutions, lose
Speaker 1: the way to exercise, like, yeah, you know what, I'm good? Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: what you feel like at this point too? Being the
Speaker 1: fifth of January, the year's almost over.
Speaker 5: So till twenty twenty why bother?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, I'll start fresh twenty twenties up?
Speaker 4: Why not?
Speaker 1: That's the big I don't know how many people actually
Speaker 1: do resolutions or try to stick to them, but it's
Speaker 1: our old friend will power. Willpower is a tough mother,
Speaker 1: isn't it.
Speaker 7: Will Power is really hard. It's you know, it is
Speaker 7: easy to start to lose focus on things over the
Speaker 7: course of a day or a week, and will power
Speaker 7: and making decisions consistently is hard. So one of the
Speaker 7: things that I thought we could talk about today is
Speaker 7: what you should put sort of on autopilot and create
Speaker 7: habits around and what you should maybe be more intentional
Speaker 7: and mindful about, because you can't be intentional and mindful
Speaker 7: about everything, all right?
Speaker 2: So what does that mean?
Speaker 7: Well, so there's this concept called decision fatigue, and we
Speaker 7: all wake up with a certain amount of energy every
Speaker 7: day and it varies, right, But the more decisions we
Speaker 7: have to make over the course of a day, the
Speaker 7: more it becomes difficult to make another decision. Just like
Speaker 7: you know, it's a muscle that you use. The more
Speaker 7: you work your muscle, sometimes the harder it becomes to
Speaker 7: continue to do that. So one of the things that
Speaker 7: we wanted to talk about was what are the kinds
Speaker 7: of things that you should build habits around that you
Speaker 7: should put on autopilot and give very little thought to,
Speaker 7: And what are the things that it makes sense to
Speaker 7: be more careful and more mindful about and optimize for
Speaker 7: because you can't put everything on autopilot, and you certainly
Speaker 7: can't be mindful and optimized for everything. And if you
Speaker 7: can decide what to do what with, then that helps
Speaker 7: keeping whatever your resolutions are or reaching whatever your goals are,
Speaker 7: that helps make that a little bit easier.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so let's start with that jump in.
Speaker 2: Take me through that.
Speaker 5: Okay, So okay, So.
Speaker 7: What we know about building habits is that it takes
Speaker 7: a few weeks for your brain to wire an activity
Speaker 7: into a habit. The timeline varies, but let's just say.
Speaker 5: A few weeks.
Speaker 7: And so if we think of things like most of
Speaker 7: us brush our teeth at least a couple of times
Speaker 7: a day in the morning and before we go to bed.
Speaker 7: This is not something we think about.
Speaker 4: We just do this.
Speaker 7: That's the kind of habit that we want to build
Speaker 7: around some things, and it takes a few weeks to
Speaker 7: be able to do that. So if one of your resolutions,
Speaker 7: and for many people it is, is to become more
Speaker 7: physically fit, then what you probably need to consider doing
Speaker 7: and is building a routine of building a habit around
Speaker 7: going to the gym or getting up and working out,
Speaker 7: or going after work and working out, whatever your plan is,
Speaker 7: and start doing that consistently for several weeks until it
Speaker 7: becomes automatic. You don't think about it anymore. You're not
Speaker 7: wondering whether you're.
Speaker 6: Going to go.
Speaker 7: You've already got your gym bag passed, your clothes laid out,
Speaker 7: you're ready to rock and roll. And then you've automated that.
Speaker 7: You don't have to think about it anymore. So now
Speaker 7: you have brain power and energy for other things.
Speaker 1: All right, well, that makes sense, right, You lay your
Speaker 1: clothes out, the day before, so you're ready to go.
Speaker 1: It's one last thing you've got to make an excuse
Speaker 1: for the day of, like, oh, I can't find my
Speaker 1: shoes wherever they are, so I'll just skip it today.
Speaker 1: But if it's all ready to go, then you wake
Speaker 1: up and you know you can focus on other things.
Speaker 7: That makes sense exactly so often. Another one that people
Speaker 7: have is they want to eat healthier throughout the week,
Speaker 7: and so one of the things that can be really
Speaker 7: helpful is to come up with ten or twelve dinners
Speaker 7: that you know you like, that you have easy ingredients for,
Speaker 7: and that you know fit your lifestyle and your family's tastes,
Speaker 7: and put those on rotation. So you just run through
Speaker 7: that list. If it's tacos on Tuesday, then it was
Speaker 7: on you on Thursday, then it's something else on Sunday.
Speaker 7: You just run through the list. You don't have to
Speaker 7: wonder what you're going to make. You don't have to
Speaker 7: wonder whether you have the ingredients. You keep everything on hand,
Speaker 7: and you just roll through that. And if you do
Speaker 7: ten or twelve over the course of a month, since
Speaker 7: most people don't eat home every night of the month,
Speaker 7: you're probably only going to have that meal a couple
Speaker 7: of times a months, and if it's something you like,
Speaker 7: that's not a bad thing. But you've automated the dinner process.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, what about if your problem is portion control?
Speaker 1: Are you just going to eat all five beers in
Speaker 1: one night?
Speaker 4: Now? What do you do?
Speaker 5: Smart?
Speaker 4: Ask?
Speaker 2: Give me an answer to that.
Speaker 7: That's where you need to be more mindful. That's one
Speaker 7: of those decisions, one of those situations where you need
Speaker 7: to be a little more careful and you need to
Speaker 7: think how much should I actually eat? How hungry am I? Truly?
Speaker 7: What have I had over the course of my day
Speaker 7: to day. But if you don't have to autumn, if
Speaker 7: you don't have to think about all of the things
Speaker 7: you're doing over the course of the day, then you
Speaker 7: have more brain power for the things that actually require
Speaker 7: some willpower, some decision making, some care.
Speaker 5: And some thought.
Speaker 1: Okay, Or you could just maybe prepackage the portions up
Speaker 1: and then do it that way too.
Speaker 7: Exactly exactly, and a lot of people do that. They
Speaker 7: do meal prep for breakfast and lunch, They prepackage everything.
Speaker 7: Some people do it for dinner as well, and then
Speaker 7: there's your meal, it's already done. You don't have to
Speaker 7: think about it, and so that's one less thing you
Speaker 7: have to think about, so you can focus on other things,
Speaker 7: put your energy toward other things that actually make a
Speaker 7: positive impact on your life or help you reach your goals.
Speaker 1: Okay, but when we know that that pattern setting takes
Speaker 1: about what good thirty to forty days or something like that.
Speaker 7: True, Yeah, it takes a few weeks. It depends on
Speaker 7: the pattern and depends on how quickly you adapt, but
Speaker 7: it takes a few weeks. And what we know is
Speaker 7: that once the brain has that pattern set, it can
Speaker 7: be really difficult to break, which is why sometimes we
Speaker 7: need to be careful and mindful about the things that
Speaker 7: we already have on autopilot and we need to maybe
Speaker 7: take a look at them and say, is this actually
Speaker 7: serving my goals and my needs? Is this really the
Speaker 7: best way to do it? So, for example, I tend
Speaker 7: to drive to work the same way every day. It
Speaker 7: uses a highway. Sometimes it's full and packed and crowded,
Speaker 7: and sometimes it's not. There actually is a better way
Speaker 7: for me to get to work. I just don't do it.
Speaker 7: So I need to be more mindful about optimizing my
Speaker 7: drive to work and less habitual about that so that
Speaker 7: I end up getting there faster and with less stress.
Speaker 1: Part of this too, you know, as much as creatures
Speaker 1: and habits, our brains actually like some sense of not
Speaker 1: like a new challenge they.
Speaker 7: Do, and brains are energy conserving, they want to do
Speaker 7: things the easiest possible way. But our reward centers are Dopamine,
Speaker 7: which is our reward center of our brain likes new challenges,
Speaker 7: It likes rewards, It likes accomplishment, it likes to be engaged,
Speaker 7: and it likes novelty, and so we tend to crave
Speaker 7: that as much as we tend to crave habitual expectable results.
Speaker 7: And so it's a balance between what are we going
Speaker 7: to reward our brain with dopamine for and what are
Speaker 7: we going to automate so that we have more energy
Speaker 7: and more time available to do the things that actually
Speaker 7: are rewarding to us. Yes, our brains crave.
Speaker 1: Novelty, all right, So we've got to tap into that element.
Speaker 1: But again, after three or four repetitions, or maybe a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, it becomes a pattern. You just kind
Speaker 1: of fall into it. So it's interesting the way you
Speaker 1: describe that, though it's all set up to succeed, and
Speaker 1: yet we continue to fail.
Speaker 2: Why is that?
Speaker 7: Because I think to some extent, we are habitualizing the
Speaker 7: wrong things and rewarding the habitualizing and rewarding the wrong things.
Speaker 7: So if we look at social media, for example, social
Speaker 7: media is something that many of us habitually go to
Speaker 7: when we have any downtime on our hands at all,
Speaker 7: rather than doing something that might be productive in our lives.
Speaker 7: We scroll, we doom scroll, we Facebook, we instagram, we whatever.
Speaker 7: There are rewards associated with that. We get the dopamine
Speaker 7: hits of the quick fixes of information and pictures and engagement,
Speaker 7: but it actually doesn't serve us very well. So we've
Speaker 7: got the habit of going to social media. It has
Speaker 7: the rewards associated with it, but it isn't actually serving
Speaker 7: our goals, our development, our life in any significant way.
Speaker 7: Although the social media gurus would hate to hear me
Speaker 7: say that.
Speaker 2: That's true, it's true.
Speaker 1: And often the ones that are going to be better
Speaker 1: for you are not ones is enjoyable social media or
Speaker 1: I don't know, drinking or eating, whatever it might be.
Speaker 1: What are your habits, you know, sitting down a TV
Speaker 1: and mindless eating a bag of cheetos for example, that's
Speaker 1: a tough habit to break, it.
Speaker 7: Is, and that's tough because it's got the reward associated
Speaker 7: with the flavor of the cheetos and the mindlessness of
Speaker 7: the TV. But it's got the habitual thing that that's
Speaker 7: what they do when I get home from work, I
Speaker 7: grab a bag of cheetos, they sit down in front
Speaker 7: of the TV, or a crack a beer. I open
Speaker 7: a bottle of wine and pour myself a glass. A
Speaker 7: minute I walk in the door. That's the habit part
Speaker 7: of it, and the reward part of it is the wine,
Speaker 7: the cheetos, the TV, the beer, whatever. And so when
Speaker 7: those two things combine, when you've got the habitual and
Speaker 7: the reward, it becomes very difficult to break because the
Speaker 7: mindlessness of the habit makes it just happen before you've
Speaker 7: even thought about it, and the reward.
Speaker 5: Keeps you coming back for more nature.
Speaker 7: So it's about understanding which one you need to tackle first.
Speaker 7: Do you tackle the reward first, remove the reward, or
Speaker 7: do you tackle the habitual part. Remove the habit and
Speaker 7: make it a more mindful thing, make it harder to
Speaker 7: get the cheetos right right?
Speaker 2: Okay, it just sounds like kind of This is what
Speaker 2: high level athletes do, right, is that.
Speaker 1: You know the automating, the healthy habits it becomes you know,
Speaker 1: you practice and practice and practice. For example, golf swing
Speaker 1: could be throwing a football whatever, and then in a
Speaker 1: game situation, you don't think about it just automatically happens exactly.
Speaker 7: So let's use golf swing for an example. So most
Speaker 7: I don't play golf, but I know a lot of
Speaker 7: people who do, and I know that you do. Have
Speaker 7: you ever changed your grip or tried to change your
Speaker 7: swing all the time?
Speaker 1: I hate my game, okay, okay, and so I think
Speaker 1: I need a psychologist actually probably more than a code.
Speaker 7: At first, that's a really hard thing to do, and
Speaker 7: it feels really awkward and it doesn't feel natural or
Speaker 7: and it doesn't seem to work at first. And then
Speaker 7: the longer you stick with it, the more you build
Speaker 7: the habit, the more practice you build in, the more
Speaker 7: automated and muscle memory it becomes, the more effective and fluid.
Speaker 7: Ideally your swing or your grip becomes. If not, then
Speaker 7: you change it again, but ideally you practice it and
Speaker 7: it becomes and then it becomes automatic. Then you don't
Speaker 7: have to think about it. Then you have taken that
Speaker 7: decision making and that thought process out of it. It's
Speaker 7: now muscle memory. You can just swing. So that's an
Speaker 7: example of taking something that is new, doing it often
Speaker 7: enough that it becomes ahead of it, and then you
Speaker 7: don't have to think about that. You can think about
Speaker 7: other things to do with your golf game.
Speaker 5: That's it.
Speaker 1: You know, I've spoken so elchoin from someone who doesn't golf.
Speaker 1: You just don't understand how easy and important to get
Speaker 1: in your own head.
Speaker 2: It's one they go, well, your.
Speaker 1: Practice and practice you just become second nature and you
Speaker 1: just go out there and then no, you don't. You
Speaker 1: sit there and you obsess about every little thing in
Speaker 1: your swing and your back swing and your grip and
Speaker 1: all these things, and it totally closed your head and
Speaker 1: you're shank into the woods.
Speaker 7: Actually, I do know that I was married to the
Speaker 7: golfer for a long time and I know a lot
Speaker 7: of them. It is it is a game that gets
Speaker 7: in your head, isn't it. And so the more that
Speaker 7: you can habitualize and ritualize things, because this is another
Speaker 7: thing that all leave lead athletes do. They ritualize things.
Speaker 7: You see it all the time when guys go up
Speaker 7: to do free throws in basketball, they have their little routine.
Speaker 7: They bounce it, bounce it, spin in their hands, bounce it,
Speaker 7: bounce it, throw And that's how they set their body
Speaker 7: up to know what's going to happen. And I'm sure
Speaker 7: you do that in your golf game too, when you
Speaker 7: get up to the te to address the ball, you
Speaker 7: do the things, wiggle your feet, you do whatever it
Speaker 7: is you do to get your body ready to do
Speaker 7: what it knows it needs to do next. And so
Speaker 7: the more you can really allow for that to happen,
Speaker 7: the freer your brain can become. But I'm not saying
Speaker 7: it's easy. I'm just saying it's possible.
Speaker 1: Right Well, this time of year, Julie hattersh here comes
Speaker 1: down and talking about mental health.
Speaker 2: It comes down to.
Speaker 1: For most people, diet and exercises are two big ones.
Speaker 1: And it may be I don't know, coming up being
Speaker 1: better about money, for example, use that one as an
Speaker 1: office that one. All right, We always talk about diet
Speaker 1: and exercise, and it's no one how many people it
Speaker 1: comes a habit. You like to ride peloton and those
Speaker 1: and it becomes you know, it becomes a habit after
Speaker 1: a while, but it's hard at first. But there's a
Speaker 1: physical thing. What about something like like being better financially,
Speaker 1: How does that work well.
Speaker 7: One of the things that you can do to help
Speaker 7: yourself be better financially is to automate a lot of
Speaker 7: your financial processes so that you don't have to talk.
Speaker 7: So you can automate money going directly into a savings
Speaker 7: account from your paycheck or from your bank account. You
Speaker 7: can automate having your bills paid so that you don't
Speaker 7: have to touch them. You can automate some things coming
Speaker 7: out of your checking account instead of going on your
Speaker 7: credit cards, so you don't have a big credit card
Speaker 7: bill at the end of the month. The less you
Speaker 7: have to actually think about it, the more systems you
Speaker 7: set up, the better. James clear who wrote this really
Speaker 7: wonderful book, Atomic Habits, and he's a guy, he's a
Speaker 7: local guy, he's from Hamilton. He says, we don't rise
Speaker 7: to the level of our goals, we fall to the
Speaker 7: level of our systems, which I love. I just think
Speaker 7: that's a brilliant thing to say. And so the more
Speaker 7: systems you set up to take care of these things
Speaker 7: for you, the less inclined you are and the less
Speaker 7: able you will be to impulsively buy something. If you
Speaker 7: don't have the money in your bank account, you're less
Speaker 7: inclined to impulsively buy it. If you have a lower
Speaker 7: limit on your credit cards and you can ask them
Speaker 7: to lower your credit card limit, the less inclined you
Speaker 7: are to impulsively buy something big. So you can set
Speaker 7: up systems to guard rail your spending choices, if that's
Speaker 7: something that you want to work on in the coming year.
Speaker 2: Very interesting.
Speaker 1: She's Julie Hattershare, license, mental health therapist here in Sinncia.
Speaker 1: It's mental Health Monday, first one this new year, and
Speaker 1: this one is about patterns and failure and how to
Speaker 1: come up with something that's going to stick in the
Speaker 1: new year, regardless of it is because willpower does fade.
Speaker 1: But if you are like an athlete that I'll say
Speaker 1: practice is that free throw over and over and over
Speaker 1: again once you get out to play it actually said,
Speaker 1: it's so ingrained in your pattern to behavior automatically do things,
Speaker 1: and you can't apply that to the rest of your life.
Speaker 1: What's things like healthy habits for example, So what happens
Speaker 1: when automatic fails? Though there are times where you have
Speaker 1: things set on autopilot and all of a sudden it
Speaker 1: just doesn't work for you anymore.
Speaker 2: What about that?
Speaker 7: Well, then maybe you need to reevaluate if that was,
Speaker 7: If that still is the right autopilot for you to have,
Speaker 7: maybe you need to take a look. This is a
Speaker 7: time that you may need to take a more mindful
Speaker 7: look at something you've consistently done habitually. Is that actually
Speaker 7: the best way to do it now? Maybe it served
Speaker 7: me then whatever then was, Maybe it doesn't serve me now,
Speaker 7: So take a look, evaluate, assess what other options there
Speaker 7: might be, see what else might work better for you.
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Speaker 1: All the best, Thanks again, looking forward to a great
Speaker 1: new year, me too, be well with news on the
Speaker 1: way in just a couple of minutes when to return.
Speaker 1: At eleven oh seven, Scott Angeel is here. He's from
Speaker 1: the Bayu. He's an oil man himself, oil expert. And
Speaker 1: what does this venezuela mean? Venezuela mean? Okay, So we're
Speaker 1: going to run the country, presumably to get oil out
Speaker 1: of the ground, which has already been stated by the President,
Speaker 1: Marco Ruby and everyone else. And we're going and take
Speaker 1: those resources out outside of managing the country, which is
Speaker 1: a whole different beast entirely. Let's say we actually do that.
Speaker 1: What incentive is there for oil companies to go to Venezuela?
Speaker 1: I mean think about this way. You have the premium
Speaker 1: basin here in the United States, uh, and we know
Speaker 1: that's not going anywhere whereas with Venezuela if the political
Speaker 1: wins shift, if we don't do what we think we
Speaker 1: want to do or have the the FRUI should do
Speaker 1: that make it come to fruition. Are these companies going
Speaker 1: to go there and invest tens of billions of dollars
Speaker 1: for something they might not get a return on investment.
Speaker 1: And with oil prices being as well as they are
Speaker 1: right now, is there incentive for oil companies to go
Speaker 1: to Venezuela and do with the President hopes.
Speaker 2: A lot of questions.
Speaker 1: He has the answers for you coming up after news
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Speaker 1: regime change and the arrest of Maduro, President Trump said
Speaker 1: the US is going to run Venezuela and oil companies
Speaker 1: are going to enter the country to the start rebuilding
Speaker 1: their oil drilling infrastructure and begin selling oil at even
Speaker 1: cheaper prices. Only problem is oil is still relatively cheap.
Speaker 1: What does this all this mean? Scott Igiel is down
Speaker 1: on the Bayou this morning in Louisiana. He's with USA
Speaker 1: Energy Worker's former Lieutenant Governor of the Great State of Louisiana.
Speaker 2: Scott, welcome back. How you been happy new year?
Speaker 5: I am great. It is good to hear you, boy
Speaker 5: Scott's Spector.
Speaker 8: Shout out to Cincinnati, appreciate all the good work you're
Speaker 8: doing and happy to join the show this morning.
Speaker 2: What happened to your guy Joe Burrow this year? By
Speaker 2: the way, Well, you know.
Speaker 8: If you could get me an offensive line over there
Speaker 8: in Cincinnati, we could get you a two rings.
Speaker 2: We can't do everything for you.
Speaker 5: Can you give me an offensive line?
Speaker 4: Brother? I just need some.
Speaker 2: Well, you got yone.
Speaker 1: You know, you got Chase and you got Burrow. Generally
Speaker 1: you go to the playoffs it's just those two. But
Speaker 1: you've got a thousand yard rusher. We've got a guy
Speaker 1: named t Higgins who's pretty damn good as well. And
Speaker 1: explain to me how the hell you can't make the
Speaker 1: playoffs with that lineup?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, I'll tell you, boy.
Speaker 8: We uh you know we we uh we I'll think
Speaker 8: over here, but I'll tell you what when the when
Speaker 8: the Bengals on.
Speaker 5: Uh, It's it's hard to pull against Joe Burrow.
Speaker 8: What a tremendous individual that brought a lot of credibility
Speaker 8: and fame to l issue with that undefeated national championship run.
Speaker 8: We'll wish you all the best there in Cincinnati. We
Speaker 8: know we got some great days coming. Jose Oh Warrior,
Speaker 8: he just stood and don't give up. A great days
Speaker 8: ahead for Cincinnati Bengals, no doubt.
Speaker 1: All right, Scott, let's get down to it. We take
Speaker 1: Maduro out. He's actually in uh. I guess it could
Speaker 1: be a rain. He's being ranked today as a matter
Speaker 1: of fact as we speak. But now this opens things
Speaker 1: up in Venezuela as far as oil companies go. The
Speaker 1: only problem with this logic, I think from your perspective
Speaker 1: here keeping the pollics out, but keeping the it's about money,
Speaker 1: it's about oil, and let's just say that it was
Speaker 1: a pretext the drugs, a pretext to get the oil.
Speaker 1: But with oil prices as low as they are right now,
Speaker 1: is there incentive for us, you know, drillers and these
Speaker 1: big companies to go into Venezuela considering the political climate there,
Speaker 1: because you're talking about you know, billions and billions of dollars.
Speaker 1: Is that why it's hard to find someone to go
Speaker 1: in there right now, because they don't know what the
Speaker 1: future is going to bring us in it just safe
Speaker 1: for to invest in the permium basin here in the
Speaker 1: United States.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's right.
Speaker 8: I think at the end of the day, right business
Speaker 8: or capital is deployed where capital is pret well, where
Speaker 8: there's stability and there's an opportunity for a return. And
Speaker 8: when you look at a third world country like Venezuela,
Speaker 8: you often want to whether or not that American dollar
Speaker 8: can can flow there and get a return. So look,
Speaker 8: I think there's a lot of headlines out there about oil,
Speaker 8: about drugs and about running.
Speaker 5: Venezuela and all that.
Speaker 8: We'll see a haul that wolves out and that will,
Speaker 8: you know, unfold here in several than several months. Let
Speaker 8: me just say this, much that you know, Venezuelan and
Speaker 8: oil is not showing up in the market in America tomorrow,
Speaker 8: even by the summertime. What I can tell you is
Speaker 8: that what we have witness in this country in twenty
Speaker 8: twenty five is what we call the Great Energy Pivot
Speaker 8: of twenty twenty five. We have seen a country go
Speaker 8: from energy defense to energy offense. We've seen this country
Speaker 8: begin to embrace all forms of energy and bring back
Speaker 8: some common sense to energy policy. And that's credible because
Speaker 8: not only is it good for USA energy workers, it's
Speaker 8: absolutely great for the American consumer. Right the current average
Speaker 8: of gasline right now about twenty and eighty one cents.
Speaker 5: A year ago was three h six.
Speaker 8: It's much lower than the record break and higher that
Speaker 8: we saw at and twenty and twenty two. So look,
Speaker 8: what I would say is that Venezuela is a big asterisk,
Speaker 8: and we'll see how they're unfolds. Our focus continues to
Speaker 8: be on the deployment of capital, as you say, in
Speaker 8: the Permian Basin, in Alaska, in California, in Oklahoma, in Ohio,
Speaker 8: in Louisiana, where we know that we've experienced six recessions
Speaker 8: from nineteen seventy three to twenty nineteen in this country,
Speaker 8: and all of them have been preceded by spiking energey prices.
Speaker 5: So if you want to get.
Speaker 8: An economy rolling, job one is to make sure you
Speaker 8: have access to affordable energy. Nobody does it better than
Speaker 8: the Red, White, and Blue. And look, Ohio was a
Speaker 8: perfect example. I mean, you top ten in gas, you
Speaker 8: top ten in ukula, you top ten in electricity, or
Speaker 8: how do you get it? And not only do you
Speaker 8: consume a lot, but you actually export some of that.
Speaker 5: To other states.
Speaker 8: So we're proud of what Ohio does for the nation
Speaker 8: when it comes to energy. Our football seasons, both for
Speaker 8: you and me, this year didn't go like we wanted,
Speaker 8: but we're still proud of our energy forces, Right.
Speaker 1: Scott, I deal with the USA energy workers and what's
Speaker 1: happening in Venezuela and how that relates to the US
Speaker 1: markets here at least US operations when it comes to drilling.
Speaker 1: I think that is it, Chevron. I believe you tell
Speaker 1: me that they they've been in there for like one
Speaker 1: hundred years in Venezuela. But get in the money from
Speaker 1: these other companies, from the Exons, from the Chinical phillips
Speaker 1: Is of the world, the Haliburtons of the world. It
Speaker 1: seems to me you just keep that money in the
Speaker 1: United States in those companies. Notorious. You know there's a
Speaker 1: break even point right now you can talk more about
Speaker 1: this is that you know, we want cheap gas, but
Speaker 1: not too cheap because it's awfully expensive to get that
Speaker 1: out of the ground. So there's got to be a
Speaker 1: profit margin and a profit margin for you guys. And
Speaker 1: so if we saturate the world with Venezuela. With cheaper oil,
Speaker 1: there's no incentive to drill and invest that money.
Speaker 8: Right, Well, look, I think you make some good points,
Speaker 8: and clearly, you know we would say is that none
Speaker 8: of us, none of us want cheap energy.
Speaker 5: We all want affordable energy.
Speaker 8: Access to affordable energy is the key, and there is
Speaker 8: a balance there, right, and the market will always find
Speaker 8: that balance.
Speaker 5: At the USA Energy Workers we always speak.
Speaker 8: To the balance of the three e's. We believe there
Speaker 8: are three important e's, much like a three legged bar
Speaker 8: stool that we have to focus on when it comes
Speaker 8: to domestic energy policy. Obviously, energy resources is one of
Speaker 8: those e's. Environment nobody does it better than the red, white,
Speaker 8: and blue, so obviously we're going to do it better
Speaker 8: for the environment here, then we're going to do it
Speaker 8: in other places. And then of course the economy. You know,
Speaker 8: the environmental E is blue, the energy the energy is red.
Speaker 8: The economic E is purple. It's not red or blue,
Speaker 8: it's purple and cloves across all states. And we believe
Speaker 8: when American policy balances those three e's, we end up
Speaker 8: with some really strong results. Again, we experienced that in
Speaker 8: twenty twenty five with the pivot from all of government
Speaker 8: war on domestic energy, to all of government's support or
Speaker 8: domestic energy. And one of the things that happened, you know,
Speaker 8: late last year that I think they list and would
Speaker 8: be interested in, is that we had a lease sale
Speaker 8: in the Gulf of America. It was the first le
Speaker 8: sale we had this twenty twenty three. It was mandated
Speaker 8: by the One Big Beautiful Bill. It's referred to as
Speaker 8: Big Beautiful Gulf one lease sale. It had a lot
Speaker 8: of interest. It generated propertly two hundred and eighty million
Speaker 8: dollars in hot bid across one hundred and eighty one blocks.
Speaker 8: The Gulf of America has traditionally represented about one in
Speaker 8: every six barrels of oil produced in America for over
Speaker 8: half a century, you know, Scott, both presidents of both
Speaker 8: parties have embraced the Gulf of America as a significant
Speaker 8: part of the American energy portfolio. We want to do more,
Speaker 8: We can do more. We think this administration is headed
Speaker 8: in the right direction, kind of taking off some of
Speaker 8: the change that have held us back yere. And so
Speaker 8: we're looking forward to this twenty twenty six in a
Speaker 8: big way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that was part of the two in December
Speaker 1: last year you had the Golf of America off shore
Speaker 1: lease sale and the first so I think we had
Speaker 1: in a couple of years mandated by the One Big
Speaker 1: Beautiful Bill. As you said too in the Golf, how
Speaker 1: many more of those leases are going to become available?
Speaker 8: Well, you know what, what basically the One Big Beautiful
Speaker 8: Bill did is mandated thirty different leaf tales into the future.
Speaker 8: So again, leasdale is an event, uh, that that is scheduled,
Speaker 8: that is public public is it has to go through
Speaker 8: a variety of environmental reviews to be able to get there.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 8: But in the past we kind of left some of
Speaker 8: that up to the administration. And I think we found
Speaker 8: out that in the previous administration was playing games, if
Speaker 8: you would, with with lease sales. And so the Big
Speaker 8: Beautiful Bill just kind of came in and mandated native
Speaker 8: the law that you got to have.
Speaker 5: These lead sales.
Speaker 8: So they will be a significant amount of lease sales
Speaker 8: that happened not only in the go but it will
Speaker 8: happen in the Pacific and as well as the Artic
Speaker 8: and and that's good, that's good news for American consumer. Again,
Speaker 8: one of the things that we you know, we we
Speaker 8: like to repeat when we talk to our national audience,
Speaker 8: is that there are no wealthy, low energy.
Speaker 5: Consuming nations on the planet.
Speaker 8: Let me repeat that there are no wealthy, low energy
Speaker 8: consuming nations on the planet. Got it in a lot
Speaker 8: of ways, In a lot of ways, Scott's energy consumption
Speaker 8: has become a proxy for human prosperity, and so having
Speaker 8: access to affordable energy just means that's obviously they had
Speaker 8: much more prosperity available and uh and again here on
Speaker 8: the Golf Coast. But we believe that every state has
Speaker 8: a role to make this union as great as it
Speaker 8: can be, and the Golf Coast we certainly recognize that
Speaker 8: one of our roles, in addition to having a good
Speaker 8: time here, is to make sure that this country has
Speaker 8: the energy in need. And you know, whether it's Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama,
Speaker 8: we highly focus and we kick and.
Speaker 1: Ask he's Scott a gild USA energy workers on the
Speaker 1: show this morning, And obviously to take over Venezuela and
Speaker 1: the oil operations there, and that's a long time coming.
Speaker 1: By the way, I don't think you can find anyone
Speaker 1: who's well. You can always find people are angry that
Speaker 1: we topp up a durero. But the pretext it was
Speaker 1: about drugs, and it's actually about oil. And in this case, though,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like you made a case for not
Speaker 1: invading Venezuela and taking over oil because you said, what,
Speaker 1: we're getting thirty leases that are going to be available
Speaker 1: to oil producers. That's less incentive than for them to
Speaker 1: invest in Venezuela.
Speaker 8: Well, look, I believe, probably contrary to some of the
Speaker 8: pubalic comments, I really believe this was about drugs.
Speaker 5: I do really believe that that is.
Speaker 8: Being played out in the media in different ways. But
Speaker 8: I do believe that this was about the importation of
Speaker 8: drugs into society of America that is absolutely ruining a
Speaker 8: generation and making it very difficult for families. And So
Speaker 8: while there's again a lot of comments and it's about oil,
Speaker 8: it's about just about this. I personally believes that there
Speaker 8: is no substitute for the USA energy worker. There's no
Speaker 8: substitute for real strong energy production from this country. We've
Speaker 8: seen it this look, this country is not going to
Speaker 8: forget the lessons of early seventies where we got ourselves
Speaker 8: in position to rely on foreign producers, and we saw
Speaker 8: what happened in my nineteen seventy three with the Arab
Speaker 8: oil ago and and we learned that lesson, and we
Speaker 8: quickly went from being a slack producer to the number
Speaker 8: one producer in the in the world. Today America is
Speaker 8: the number one oil producer in the world. Okay, and
Speaker 8: this I believe our country has learned that lesson, and
Speaker 8: we are not going back to those days certainly. Look,
Speaker 8: I think you know, getting rid of anyone who imports
Speaker 8: drugs into this country for for kids, uh, and for
Speaker 8: their own self wealth is a detriment to society.
Speaker 5: So for that, uh, I'm pleased to see that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's I mean, I agree it destroys society,
Speaker 1: but I mean the bulk of the drugs aren't coming
Speaker 1: from Venezuela.
Speaker 4: But you know, it.
Speaker 5: Does, it does.
Speaker 1: I would say also on this one, Scott angel is
Speaker 1: that maybe this, you know, if it works out, and
Speaker 1: as we know, it often doesn't, but sometimes it does.
Speaker 1: And that is regime change at the hands of the
Speaker 1: United States is uh. In three years, if we have
Speaker 1: a foothold there, it's gonna be awfully tough for the
Speaker 1: next administration to unravel that. If it's a democratic one,
Speaker 1: it's a Republican fine, but if the Democratic when unravel
Speaker 1: that probably not that kind of hedges our bats a
Speaker 1: little bit in having a stronghold here in the West
Speaker 1: in Venezuela when it comes to uh a source of energy,
Speaker 1: a sense of oil which you're going to need for
Speaker 1: the next hundred plus years.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Look, at the end of the day, right when we
Speaker 8: all recognize that access to affordable energy is good for
Speaker 8: the American consumer, we all win. We experienced it in
Speaker 8: twenty five. We absolutely believe that, you know, this White
Speaker 8: House is headed in the right direction. And when it
Speaker 8: comes to focusing on American energy policy that I think
Speaker 8: if you write the story of twenty twenty five, one
Speaker 8: of the things that really comes out to meet Scott
Speaker 8: is that getting energy policy fixed was job worn because
Speaker 8: once we fix the energy policy, because the experts tell
Speaker 8: us about forty percent of overall inflation is driven by
Speaker 8: energy inflation. So we saw what happened when energy is
Speaker 8: in twenty twenty five, we also saw that inflation was reduced,
Speaker 8: not to where we want it to be, but it
Speaker 8: certainly is reduced, and we saw interest rates come down.
Speaker 8: So job one focus on American energy, we believe, was
Speaker 8: the right call, we've seen it, execute it, and we
Speaker 8: believe we're not going to forget those lessons in twenty
Speaker 8: twenty sixty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the oil ement.
Speaker 1: I believes that those other legs of that still right,
Speaker 1: which be natural gas, It would be other things like
Speaker 1: that too, But it seems to me is transmission as
Speaker 1: the other issue hit and getting it from point A
Speaker 1: to point B producing it. But we know the strain
Speaker 1: on our energy grid. For example, we know that the
Speaker 1: Keystone XL pipeline was shut down and now restarted under Trump.
Speaker 1: That will definitely help to reduce if it's not already
Speaker 1: reducing oil prices, gas prices at that But infrastructure seems
Speaker 1: to be the bottleneck, no doubt.
Speaker 8: I'm glad you brought that up, because we've had this incredible,
Speaker 8: I think bottleneck permitting infrastructure that we need in this country.
Speaker 8: And again, I think there was this mindset that, you know,
Speaker 8: energy wasn't necessary, that we were going to maybe we
Speaker 8: had begun to accept that we're going to get all
Speaker 8: of our energy.
Speaker 5: From the birds and the bees and the flowers and
Speaker 5: the trees.
Speaker 8: And I think there's starting to be some realization that
Speaker 8: you know, hey, we don't make these investments. We started
Speaker 8: up having serious issues and so the grid does have
Speaker 8: a bottlenecks. I do believe that there's a couple of
Speaker 8: things that happened that's very important to getting the big
Speaker 8: beautiful Bill provided some relief on infrastructure.
Speaker 5: Also, the Supreme Court.
Speaker 8: Decision, I think it's called seven Counties Eagle County versus
Speaker 8: Seven Counties Infrastructure. That was a significant decision coming at
Speaker 8: a Supreme Court. The executive order that created or get
Speaker 8: created the National declared the National Energy Emergency, the creation
Speaker 8: of the National Indidominance Council. I think you can expect
Speaker 8: twenty twenty six and twenty twenty seven to be absolute
Speaker 8: record years, record years on the capital that's deployed in
Speaker 8: infrastructure development, because I believe that the capital deployers have
Speaker 8: the confidence that this country is fixing its bottlenecks. One
Speaker 8: of the other things is going through Congress right now,
Speaker 8: something called the Speed Act, which is designed again to
Speaker 8: remove some of the bureaucratic bureaucratic holes. And you know,
Speaker 8: folks have a hard time when they put together a
Speaker 8: business plan and it's a big and dollar business plan,
Speaker 8: and it takes on certain mouthstone and those milestones get
Speaker 8: get delayed and delayed and delayed and delayed, and nineteen
Speaker 8: years later you're still waiting for a permit. That's no
Speaker 8: way to run a business. There's no one way to
Speaker 8: provide affordable energy to American consumers. So you absolutely right.
Speaker 8: I'm glad you brought it up. A lot of bottle
Speaker 8: necks on the grid. Looked for twenty twenty sixth and
Speaker 8: twenty twenty seven to be extremely strong with the deployment
Speaker 8: of capital to start removing some of those bottle necks.
Speaker 1: Well see how it shakes out on the home front.
Speaker 1: Things are good. We'll find out. Venezuela now an outlier.
Speaker 1: But Scott Einshiel is with USA Energy workers down on
Speaker 1: the Bayou. And thanks again for the time. It's always Scott,
Speaker 1: all the best.
Speaker 5: Thank you so much, and good luck for you in
Speaker 5: twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1: You too, You as well, my friend. I'm sure we'll
Speaker 1: talk again soon. You know, as he was talking, there
Speaker 1: was so thinking about the demand, and it was the
Speaker 1: stupidest thing that the Hubris, the previous administration, had about
Speaker 1: forcing electric vehicles on people. Hybrids are where it's at,
Speaker 1: and we said no, no, we don't want that because
Speaker 1: that's gas. We can't have gasoline. Got to go right
Speaker 1: to electric, and we saw what happened. It kind of
Speaker 1: collapsed upon itself. Not that there's you know, electric cars
Speaker 1: are going to go, evs are going to go anywhere,
Speaker 1: but certainly trying to force people and pushing that agenda
Speaker 1: didn't work out most people. Most people who drive, you know,
Speaker 1: drive a significant amount of miles in the United States
Speaker 1: outside of the big cities, and you know, the ryal
Speaker 1: leveluild of having to charge something every so often, it's
Speaker 1: still a lot of pilling despite the incredible range that
Speaker 1: these cars have. At the same time, you know, people
Speaker 1: want SUVs and bigger vehicles now, I think largely because
Speaker 1: the roads suck. I think if you want people to
Speaker 1: become more you know from the environmentalists, to go to
Speaker 1: all electric, which poses its own problems.
Speaker 2: But we need more.
Speaker 1: We need wider, bigger and better roads. Uh so you know,
Speaker 1: every every pothole doesn't feel like your teeth are going
Speaker 1: to get knocked out. Just my two cents anyway, quick
Speaker 1: time out more to follow slowly on seven hundred w
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Speaker 1: the first one Shower of twenty six or a lot
Speaker 1: of people, and I want to talk about generally, it's
Speaker 1: so sports related about this time. And Cleveland knocks off
Speaker 1: the Bengals yesterday twenty eighteen. Bengals fall to six and eleven,
Speaker 1: and I, for one, am happy the Bengals lost yesterday.
Speaker 1: James Rapeat is here from SI's Bengals Talk dot Com
Speaker 1: in the Lockdown Bengals podcast.
Speaker 2: James welcome.
Speaker 1: I said, yes, I'm glad the Bengals lost because I
Speaker 1: hate the tired narrative where our teams go on a
Speaker 1: streak once the season is out of reach, once the
Speaker 1: postseason's out of reach, and they talk about, well we
Speaker 1: got something to build on for next year. That is
Speaker 1: the stupidest, most excuse ridden concept ever. I'm glad they lost,
Speaker 1: so you go, listen, blow this thing up and fix.
Speaker 5: It, right, you did it?
Speaker 6: I do.
Speaker 5: I totally understand that. I think I hope they knew
Speaker 5: regardless that they weren't close. But now you look at
Speaker 5: it and you lose to Vat Brown's team with Jill Burrow,
Speaker 5: which just shouldn't happen. I mean, it really is an
Speaker 5: embarrassing loss, and you have to look in the mirror
Speaker 5: and say we were five hundred with Joe Burrow. You know,
Speaker 5: we were three and three with Joe Burrow, right and
Speaker 5: after he came back to be clear. Yeah, so a
Speaker 5: tough cover swallow for sure, no no.
Speaker 2: Doubt about it.
Speaker 1: I look at a you know you because if they'd
Speaker 1: won that game yesterday and they're very close to doing it, obviously,
Speaker 1: that's a that field goal. You go back and go, well, okay,
Speaker 1: we won three and they lost to a Jets team
Speaker 1: this season that by the way, yesterday I watched that
Speaker 1: Bills game. The Bills started well, Josh Allen I think
Speaker 1: once here one handoff, and then he was out of
Speaker 1: the game to keep his one hundred and twenty games
Speaker 1: streak alive. But Mitch Trubisky backup comes in, all the
Speaker 1: backups are and the Bills throttled the Jets.
Speaker 2: The Jets the.
Speaker 1: Only team in NFL history not to get one single
Speaker 1: interception all damn season long, and the Bengals loss of
Speaker 1: that team. That's what I look at and scratch my
Speaker 1: head and go, how is that even possible? What the
Speaker 1: talent this team has. You've got Joe Burrow, you've got
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase, you got t Higgins and a thousand yard
Speaker 1: rusher in Chase Brown, and you still can't make the playoffs.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and not even close. I mean they've been eliminated
Speaker 5: for so long. It's not like they were in it
Speaker 5: down the stretch and something didn't break their way like
Speaker 5: last year. Yeah, that's it. That's the frustrating thing.
Speaker 4: And so.
Speaker 5: Now it's about how do you get better? What do
Speaker 5: you need to get better? What needs to improve? What
Speaker 5: are the changes that need to be made? And what's
Speaker 5: interesting is is you could say, yeah, because a bunch
Speaker 5: of changes need to be made, and you could say
Speaker 5: the coaches and guess what, I think you're right. You
Speaker 5: could say they need to be more aggressive in free agency,
Speaker 5: and guess what, I think you're right. Obviously they need
Speaker 5: to draft better with talent that's ready to go right
Speaker 5: now instead of needing to be developed for two to
Speaker 5: three years. If that's how they're trying to bank on
Speaker 5: the draft, which is a dangerous game to play. So
Speaker 5: there's a lot of ways they can get better.
Speaker 2: Well, everything's on the table, but it's really not because
Speaker 2: it's the Bengals. Of course.
Speaker 1: Just dropping a couple hours ago was Mike Brown's statement
Speaker 1: that after thoughtful consideration, I'm confident that Duke Tobin and
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor are the right leaders to guide us forward.
Speaker 1: Why well because of one of the playoffs in the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, so it can't possibly do them. But we're
Speaker 1: going to look at everything that doesn't make a lot
Speaker 1: of sense and confidence there and maybe the one area
Speaker 1: that he didn't mention that should is free agency.
Speaker 5: They better be aggressive in free agency. And I actually
Speaker 5: just wrote something this morning what Joe Burrow said about
Speaker 5: free agency because I asked him because it's one thing
Speaker 5: for me to stay on all my platforms, which I
Speaker 5: have for quite some time now that hey, they set
Speaker 5: themselves up for failure this season because of their lack
Speaker 5: of activity and free agency. They went and they got
Speaker 5: t J. Slayton, and that was really the only defensive
Speaker 5: starter that they brought in. And we saw the defense
Speaker 5: last year, we knew it wouldn't just be a coach
Speaker 5: that would fix it. And so for that to be
Speaker 5: the case is unacceptable. And Joe Burrow saying, quote when
Speaker 5: I asked about free agency, that's a paramount importance. You
Speaker 5: have to identify where you're weak and figure out a
Speaker 5: way to be strung in that area. It's pretty simple,
Speaker 5: and so they need to do it. They need to
Speaker 5: add multiple starters, probably one to all three levels of
Speaker 5: their defense, if we're being quite honest, and that doesn't
Speaker 5: mean that they're not going to or shouldn't add to
Speaker 5: the offense. A lot of people are going to say,
Speaker 5: all of the offensive set we saw yesterday, the offense
Speaker 5: is not set. The offense is far from set. They're good,
Speaker 5: they're talented, they have a chance to be really good.
Speaker 5: But they should have hung thirty on a crappy, lifeless
Speaker 5: Browns team, even with the turnovers, and they didn't get close.
Speaker 2: James repeating so on that.
Speaker 1: You have to ask yourself, Okay, during that that anomaly
Speaker 1: where they went out and leaned in the free agency,
Speaker 1: in the last three seasons they got away from that.
Speaker 1: So the question would be why if it worked, then
Speaker 1: we know the reasons what predicated that. So aren't we
Speaker 1: in the same position now, why wouldn't you replicate if
Speaker 1: that worked for you once, why wouldn't.
Speaker 5: You continue to do that? I don't have the complete answer.
Speaker 5: Here's what I would tell you. I think that they overthought,
Speaker 5: completely overthought this idea that oh my god, we got
Speaker 5: to pay Joe and Jamar and how are we going
Speaker 5: to make this work? And they looked up and they
Speaker 5: had no one to pay. That's why if they didn't
Speaker 5: pay te Higgins I would have lost my mind. They
Speaker 5: had no one to pay that. They have so much money,
Speaker 5: so much cash shaded, so much room, and they drafted
Speaker 5: so poorly that they easily could have paid Jest. They
Speaker 5: easily could have paid DJ. It was a predative by
Speaker 5: the way. They easily could have paid all of these
Speaker 5: guys and kept their stars. But in their minds, I
Speaker 5: think they thought, oh, well, we got the quarterback coming up,
Speaker 5: but we got the receiver coming up, and they felt
Speaker 5: like they couldn't operate. And that's why, Like I think back,
Speaker 5: really the past three off season. Last year was TJ.
Speaker 5: Slayton was their big get, which can't be your big
Speaker 5: get if you're a Super Bowl contender in free agency.
Speaker 4: Just can't.
Speaker 5: It's not that's not even have bininary thy for a
Speaker 5: lot of teams, And that's no knock on TJ. It's
Speaker 5: so the reality of it. You need to add real
Speaker 5: starters that and he's worth it, but you need to
Speaker 5: add more than one piece to that defense. But I
Speaker 5: think back to over the past three years, really the
Speaker 5: only significant free agent signing was Orlando Brown Junior. And
Speaker 5: I'll tell you right now, Scott, they didn't go into
Speaker 5: free agency thinking they had a shot at Orlando Brown Junior.
Speaker 5: That wasn't even a guy they were targeting. He fell
Speaker 5: into their laps because he looked at the situation and said, ooh,
Speaker 5: that would be a good situation. And that's what scares
Speaker 5: me is like, you guys got to think like this
Speaker 5: is the Joe Burrow era. And so however you get
Speaker 5: to Little Lombardy, you got to get there. It doesn't
Speaker 5: matter if you're hurt feelings, it doesn't matter what wall
Speaker 5: you got to run through. You got to find a
Speaker 5: way to get there. And it doesn't feel like they're
Speaker 5: willing to climb, crawl, run through, do whatever it takes
Speaker 5: to get there, because if they were, they would be
Speaker 5: willing to manipulate how they structure contracts to get more
Speaker 5: guys on under the cap and all of the things
Speaker 5: that I've highlighted with you all, Oh yeah, well I
Speaker 5: think that that thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And James, to your point, I mean, Chase Brown
Speaker 1: right thousand and out Rusher, you know, his contracts, and
Speaker 1: I think, what end twenty nine the next season, you
Speaker 1: should have him locked in right now or at least
Speaker 1: this offseason. That's a priority, right for getting him. You
Speaker 1: can lock him in cheaper than it's going to cost
Speaker 1: you down the line, and we've seen them not do
Speaker 1: that with plenty of players.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and so Chase Brown's interesting. But what's tough about that?
Speaker 5: They're spending a lot of money on offense, right and
Speaker 5: so do they overthink that? I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 4: Here's what I do know.
Speaker 5: DJ Turner is in the same boat. I want DJ
Speaker 5: Turner on the team next year, on the team the
Speaker 5: year after. Yes, that's still entering his fifth year option.
Speaker 5: So there are guys like that. But here's the other thing.
Speaker 5: Don't worry about those extensions and those guys that are
Speaker 5: under contract in the middle of free agency. The real
Speaker 5: loss of the Jamar and t contracts was it wasn't
Speaker 5: just how they structured them. And I'm not going to
Speaker 5: get two into the leads there because they wasted about
Speaker 5: ten million dollars in cap space. It didn't have to,
Speaker 5: but it was the when, why the hell would you
Speaker 5: do that? With free agency opens, they're under contract, they're yours.
Speaker 5: You can negotiate with them anytime you want. Once free
Speaker 5: agency opens, that is your time to go after outsidecast.
Speaker 5: They didn't do that. They were so worried I think
Speaker 5: internally about getting those done and how it would look
Speaker 5: and impact their salary catch space that they could not
Speaker 5: operate without getting those done. That just cannot happen.
Speaker 1: Well, also hamstring themselves because it's I only have this
Speaker 1: heart official. We don't negotiate during these during the season,
Speaker 1: these particular times, and like you're always negotiating.
Speaker 2: It doesn't make any sense. That's what the rest of
Speaker 2: the league is.
Speaker 4: It's always negotia.
Speaker 1: Some stupid like, well this is the way we did
Speaker 1: it when my dad ran the team. Well we also
Speaker 1: have color TV, So what what the hell are you
Speaker 1: talking about. You don't know if they do, I don't know,
Speaker 1: probably not working off a rabbit or I'm not sure,
Speaker 1: get in trouble.
Speaker 2: They uh, I'm watching this football game. They're at midfield.
Speaker 1: They have a chance to really to put this thing
Speaker 1: away fourth and one, they wind up punting the ball
Speaker 1: comes back to bite them. And then later on when
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett gets his record setting sack of Joe Burrow,
Speaker 1: which was I thought. I thought for a while he
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna get it, but he got it. You know,
Speaker 1: the stadium is reluctantly. Even Bengals fans were on their
Speaker 1: feet for this because it's a milestone, right, I haven't
Speaker 1: seen this in twenty years. He's eclipsed and become the
Speaker 1: old time NFL set the record for the most sacks
Speaker 1: and one season twenty three. I've seen a lot of
Speaker 1: sports and you have too, and I can't remember a
Speaker 1: milestone like that where the game didn't stop and they
Speaker 1: didn't celebrate. And yet in his press conference, Zach was
Speaker 1: all pissed off that they stopped the game to Kurt Miles,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to kurt him off the field and celebrate him.
Speaker 1: And it took the momentumway from the Bengals. Like the
Speaker 1: urgency of that moment in the running tempo. Somehow that mattered,
Speaker 1: but the fourth and one punt did not.
Speaker 2: It makes no sense.
Speaker 5: I totally agree with Like, I get what he was saying.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I do.
Speaker 5: Come on, let's not make it a huge deal because
Speaker 5: you just got your buff loos right like right, Like
Speaker 5: it is annoying and it is frustrating, and you were
Speaker 5: trying to play to win the game, which makes it
Speaker 5: even more sad that the backup Browns team that very
Speaker 5: well is going to fire their coach. And it feels
Speaker 5: that way I talked to people up there. It's just
Speaker 5: it cannot it cannot be a thing like that has
Speaker 5: like millions of us that Taylor complaining now and so
Speaker 5: now when And he might not care because he also
Speaker 5: praised Miles Garrett. But that's not the point that everyone's
Speaker 5: going to remember. It's gonna be I remember when that
Speaker 5: Bengals coach complained that they so.
Speaker 6: Like, that's just it's just not a good look.
Speaker 4: So he could have made his.
Speaker 5: Point without being so we were trying to get on
Speaker 5: the ball and we were finding to them we're fighting
Speaker 5: for our lives here and then like, all right, well.
Speaker 4: Why fight for your lives?
Speaker 5: And with zero zero gets the yeah, yeah, there's no
Speaker 5: it's odd.
Speaker 1: This morning the Brown said we're done with Mike Stefanski,
Speaker 1: two time Coach the Year. Immediately Bengals fans start thinking, well,
Speaker 1: is he an upgrade from the coach we have now
Speaker 1: in Zach Taylor. Mike Brown kind of cut this thing
Speaker 1: off of the Knees issued a statement not long ago saying,
Speaker 1: after thoughtful consideration, he's confident that not only Duke Tobyn
Speaker 1: but Zach Taylor are the right leaders to guid his forward.
Speaker 1: Should the Bengals have gone after Kevin Stefanski, I don't know,
Speaker 1: doesn't matter, So.
Speaker 5: It matters for sure. It matters because I've thought about
Speaker 5: this a lot, like if the front office isn't changing,
Speaker 5: you see what an elite quarterback can do for you.
Speaker 5: If you have an elite quarterback that can do that,
Speaker 5: and you get an elite head coach, which they do
Speaker 5: not have an elite head coach, it goes without saying
Speaker 5: then like pretty good spot to be in. And uh So,
Speaker 5: I I don't know if I think Kevin the Fancy
Speaker 5: is the laite head coach. I think it's muddy. I
Speaker 5: will say this. I think in NFL circles held in
Speaker 5: higher regard than jacket correct, But do I think that
Speaker 5: he's this awesome coach like I don't know, I don't
Speaker 5: I don't know if I think that maybe he is
Speaker 5: and I'm missing it and I'm not seeing the full boat.
Speaker 5: And in the NFL evaluators that are uh seated differently
Speaker 5: in our right. But for me personally, I never looked
Speaker 5: at Kevin Stefanski and I was up there when like
Speaker 5: right when he got hired. I wasn't there for that season,
Speaker 5: but right when he got hired. But I'm not sure
Speaker 5: I'm convinced and completely sold on that I made my words.
Speaker 5: In two years, if he goes to Tennessee and has
Speaker 5: them competing for titles, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, letting Brabel go. You know, I think it's bad
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati that Tennessee. That just leaves everyone shaking there. Nonetheless,
Speaker 1: James Brabel is elite. Tennessee is like, yeah, we don't
Speaker 1: like this guy, we don't need him. Uh, James Rapine
Speaker 1: over that s I of course I'll locked on Bendals
Speaker 1: podcast and Bendle's Talk dot com post a new stuff
Speaker 1: about our conversation today were talking about. Go check that out. James,
Speaker 1: all the best. Appreciate you all season long and anything breaks,
Speaker 1: we'll have you back on. But have a great offseason.
Speaker 2: Man, Appreciate you, Thanks, Scott, appreciate you. Take care.
Speaker 1: Let's get a time out in. We're running late. We've
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