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Speaker 1: After three. This is ESPN fifteen thirty. Don't forget, we

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Speaker 1: do have the game on Sunday. Bengals and Packers live

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Speaker 1: on ESPN fifteen thirty pregame coverage at noon to kickoff.

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Speaker 1: In Forward's twenty five, Bill Michaels from Elder High School

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Speaker 1: is the king of Milwaukee and Wisconsin sports talk radio.

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Speaker 1: I watch a show on YouTube today for a while

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Speaker 1: to get his thoughts on Bengals v. Packers. This guy's

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Speaker 1: swamped because you got the Brewers game four. You've got

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Speaker 1: everybody in Wisconsin waiting to find out who they're going

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Speaker 1: to replace Luke Fickle with. And obviously a Packer's home

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Speaker 1: game on Sunday. So I know he just got off

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Speaker 1: the air. I can't thank him enough for his time.

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Speaker 1: It's good of him to join us. And if I

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Speaker 1: can find the mouse that uses that works with the phone,

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Speaker 1: I'll put him on the air.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Bill, what's up?

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Speaker 3: What's going on?

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Speaker 4: Hey?

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Speaker 3: What's got me? Probably the most.

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Speaker 5: Thrilled with Elder beat Mohler this past weekend sold out.

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Speaker 3: That was fantastic.

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Speaker 1: I understand your your classes reunion is tomorrow. I assume

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Speaker 1: you're not going to be there.

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Speaker 3: No I.

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Speaker 5: You know what's funny is I really wanted to. I

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Speaker 5: just got home from New York. I'm a part of

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Speaker 5: Vice Channel doing a documentary on the Packers and on

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Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers. I was out filming that, and then I

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Speaker 5: came home and I just it's too much travel not

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Speaker 5: this week. So I'm hosting about eighteen people coming up

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Speaker 5: And I'd really love to come back home and be

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Speaker 1: I was asked by a fellow graduate of yours in

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Speaker 1: have our answer. I think I thought I knew what

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Speaker 1: the answer was going to be, but I had to ask. Nonetheless,

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Speaker 1: the week through two weeks, everybody's putting the Packers in

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Speaker 2: The shine has come off. What's gone wrong.

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Speaker 5: Special teams basically, you know, they've had a block pat,

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Speaker 5: them the game, even though they didn't play very well

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Speaker 5: the fact is the offensive line, you go back to

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Speaker 5: even training camp, it hasn't been intact all season. Banks

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Speaker 5: lot of instability on the offensive front, so I think

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Speaker 5: that's part of it. The secondary didn't have a good

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Speaker 1: And all this when they played against Joe Flacco, they

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Speaker 3: He was not good. I mean, he's a statue, you know.

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Speaker 5: And the funny thing is now we're going to get

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Speaker 3: To be an even worse offensive line.

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Speaker 5: If you look a lot of the metrics, the offensive

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Speaker 5: Bengals fans, so that aspect of the game I think

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Speaker 5: got to play smarter, you know, turning the ball over

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Speaker 3: For him to arrive.

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Speaker 5: And when I did the comparison, you go back and

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Speaker 5: It wasn't until they took over and maybe their third

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Speaker 5: and assend that's what you're waiting on with Jordan Love.

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Speaker 5: Now I'm not saying Jordan Love is the matrix walking

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Speaker 1: You mentioned Michah Parsons. That was the Micah Parsons revenge game,

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Speaker 1: What did Dallas do to keep him off of?

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Speaker 3: Dak? Prescott got rid of the ball real quick.

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Speaker 5: I mean, they doubled the triple teamdom then Devonte Wyatt

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Speaker 3: Who's their big defensive lineman.

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Speaker 5: They gave up Rashan Or, they gave up Kenny Clark

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Speaker 5: That left him to be that anchor in the middle,

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Speaker 3: So we'll see if they changed that up if necessary

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Speaker 5: But that's the way to do it if you can

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Speaker 2: Do you guys want TJ. Slaton back?

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Speaker 3: You know? No, not really? Look, DJ was a good

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Speaker 5: To the year the Packers won the Super Bowl ten

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Speaker 1: I attended the last Bengals Packers game in twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 1: It was in September. I think it was the hottest

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Speaker 1: be ideal, right, because it's October, so it's not going

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Speaker 5: Just get the Lambeau and get out and walk, you know,

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Speaker 5: because that's what you can do.

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Speaker 3: And if you pay the extra five bucks.

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Speaker 5: You can use their bathroom in their house, which is

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Speaker 5: kind of cool, but just no walk around. I've got

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Speaker 3: It's just it really is.

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Speaker 5: And don't forget I mean, you know, Lambeofield is the

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Speaker 1: While I have you and you're always good with your time.

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Speaker 1: How much do they hate Luke Fickle up there?

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Speaker 5: With a passion, Absolutely with a passion. They don't feel

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Speaker 5: Jim Leonard should have been the guy because he's the

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Speaker 5: went after Luke Fickle, so he already Fickle had a

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Speaker 5: then you start looking at his recruiting classes and you're thinking, man,

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Speaker 5: this is great. He's bringing in top twenty twenty five talent.

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Speaker 5: This is something we haven't ever seen here in Wisconsin.

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Speaker 5: So this team's going to flourish and it seems like

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Speaker 5: they can play really well, and then they face adversity

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Speaker 5: It just they have no intestable fortitude and that starts

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Speaker 3: The coaching side of the football. And so I'm rooting

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Speaker 5: But I think we did the eulogy today that if

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Speaker 1: I think I'm in the minority, but I root for

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Speaker 1: him too. It just it went south quickly. Are the

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Speaker 3: Night now goes.

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Speaker 5: They would then have the Packers, remember, went in, got

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Speaker 5: the Hollis Trophy at Soldier Field, went on.

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Speaker 3: The Super Bowl two twenty eleven.

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Speaker 5: The Brewers won one sixty three the playoff game at

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Speaker 5: How afropole would it be to win the NLDS at

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Speaker 5: for him and all their arrogance. They can suck it

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Speaker 5: because they could. They just we own that and I

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Speaker 1: So kiss my butt, all right, I'm rooting for it

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Speaker 1: and enjoyed the game on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: You're the man. Thank you as always, Hi buddy, thank you.

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Speaker 2: That's our guy. Bill.

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Speaker 1: That guy is like massive. He's on like a million

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Speaker 1: radio stations throughout Wisconsin. He's on for four hours every

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Speaker 1: single day. He's got a YouTube channel. He's awesome aout

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Speaker 1: what he does and always kind enough to joy. We

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Speaker 1: that was cool and whenever the Bengals played the Packers

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Speaker 1: every four years. Bill joins us and he's from Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: worked here for like I think our past intersected for

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Speaker 1: and I always like the king of Wisconsin sports, the.

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Speaker 2: King of making us money is our guy, Lee Sterling.

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Speaker 2: He joins us. Next Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

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