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Speaker 1: Paul's eis joins us right now.

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Speaker 2: Paul brought to us as well by eighty four Lumber Dynasty,

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Speaker 2: partner of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Paul joins Mark once a week.

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Speaker 2: I was on Paul last week when Mark was out.

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Speaker 2: Now we flip flop Paul. Good to hear from you.

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Speaker 3: How are you?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing good, every buddy, how you been.

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Speaker 2: So the word on Jeff Caple after the loss today,

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Speaker 2: Alan Green has said that he will sit down with

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Speaker 2: Jeff and talk about the future of the program.

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Speaker 1: Does that mean I will sit down with Jeff and

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Speaker 1: fire his ass? If that's what?

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Speaker 4: Is that?

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Speaker 1: What that means?

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Speaker 5: I I.

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Speaker 6: Would tell you that in the last probably week and

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Speaker 6: a half, the tide has probably changed based on you

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Speaker 6: know what.

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Speaker 4: People have been telling me. I can tell you you.

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Speaker 6: Know before probably the last week and a half two weeks.

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Speaker 6: The answer is I equivocally no, there there's no chance.

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Speaker 6: But I've been told as recently as well today that.

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Speaker 4: Alan Green has the green light and.

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Speaker 6: He has the the money if need be, to fire

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Speaker 6: Jef Cables. So it's gonna be very interesting because it

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Speaker 6: sounds like they put a lot of it on Alan

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Speaker 6: Green's plate. And he's gonna have to make a you know,

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Speaker 6: a decision, which I don't think it's a very tough decision.

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Speaker 6: But you know, anybody these days can justify how much

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Speaker 6: they're losing.

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Speaker 4: And you know, the money thing, and you know, we don't.

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Speaker 6: Have the resources and all the other stuff that you

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Speaker 6: can come up with as a reason why.

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Speaker 4: Some program seem to be getting ahead and others don't.

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Speaker 2: Do you buy into the theory of if you can

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Speaker 2: raise money to fire a coach, you should be able

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Speaker 2: to raise enough money to get more good players.

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Speaker 4: Well, yes and no.

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Speaker 6: Because one of the things about these buyouts that people

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Speaker 6: I don't think people understand is these buyouts are paid

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Speaker 6: over in payments, you know what I mean. So, and

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Speaker 6: it's through the life of the contract. So it's not

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Speaker 6: like Princess a couple of years ago. It's not like

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Speaker 6: Texas a and never wrote a check for seventy six

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Speaker 6: million dollars for Jimbo Fisher to go away. You know,

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Speaker 6: it's a line item in there in their athletic budget

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Speaker 6: every year.

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Speaker 4: So I you know, the amount of money is really

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Speaker 6: But the other part of it is I think there's

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Speaker 6: a little bit of a misconception, and of course, and

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Speaker 6: I know where it comes from because it started probably

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Speaker 6: about a month ago when the heat really started getting

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Speaker 6: hot around Jeff Caple. But there's this talk about how

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Speaker 6: PID is like last in the NY in the ACC

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Speaker 6: or second to last in the ACC in terms of

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Speaker 6: what they can pay for their payroll and all that

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Speaker 6: other stuff. You know, I've talked to enough people who

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Speaker 6: are on the lower side of campus to that I

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Speaker 6: know that's unequivocally not true. They are somewhere in the

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Speaker 6: middle of the back of the ACC with what they pay.

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Speaker 6: One of the things that they've been able to do

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Speaker 6: is play this game where they're saying, well, you know

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Speaker 6: what we're paying for the players on the court. You know,

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Speaker 6: it's it's it's X. Well, yeah, except for nobody told

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Speaker 6: you to spend you know, one point three or one

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Speaker 6: point four million or whatever, you spent for a guy

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Speaker 6: with a heart problem who's not on who's not on the.

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Speaker 4: Court and hasn't been all year.

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Speaker 6: And more importantly, that money counts too, even though you

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Speaker 6: know what I mean, he's not technically.

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Speaker 4: On the court. That money counts to what you're paying

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Speaker 2: In college basketball, you don't get lt I R like

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Speaker 2: you doing hot gum. It doesn't work that way, right exactly.

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Speaker 6: And so my point is I I you know, obviously

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Speaker 6: could Pit do better? Yes, every every school could do better.

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Speaker 6: And you know, you see that at this time of year.

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Speaker 4: There's coach after coach after coaches.

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Speaker 6: Saying, yeah, you know, I believe that our you know,

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Speaker 6: university is going to put more money into this and

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Speaker 6: all this other stuff. As I roll on Twitter today, Tim,

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Speaker 6: the best thing if you're a coach about nil and

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Speaker 6: revenue share.

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Speaker 4: Payroll is that now you can blame not winning on

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Speaker 4: not having enough money. Man, It's not true. You can

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Speaker 4: just throw that out there.

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Speaker 1: This is the Pirate.

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Speaker 6: Now, I'm a good coach. I just yeah, I'm a

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Speaker 6: good coach. I just don't have enough money to win.

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Speaker 6: And so Pit has enough money. Listen, Pitt has enough

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Speaker 6: money to not finished fifteenth in the ACC.

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Speaker 4: How about that?

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Speaker 2: Speaking of money and gambling, Paul, and talking about the Pirates,

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Speaker 2: I've saw their over under win total has now been

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Speaker 2: inflated to seventy eight point five from seventy two point

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Speaker 2: five when it first came out. Ninety seven percent of

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Speaker 2: tickets I think it was MGM came in on the

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Speaker 2: Pirates over ninety nine percent of the money came in

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Speaker 2: on the Pirates.

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Speaker 1: Over where would you go?

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Speaker 2: Would you put money on the over at seventy eight

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Speaker 1: Now that's become so inflat at minus one twenty nine

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Speaker 6: Way, I would definitely put the money on over seventy

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Speaker 6: two and a half or whatever it started out at.

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Speaker 6: You know, I kind of feel like the number.

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Speaker 4: Tim is probably.

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Speaker 6: Closer to about seventy six, you know, so the margin

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Speaker 6: there is very small, but I think seventy eight and

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Speaker 6: a half I really start thinking about the under.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you, Paul, because, like I I've had

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Speaker 2: a lot of conversations with people that are pretty diehard

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Speaker 2: Pirates fans who you know, say they're gonna be over

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Speaker 2: five hundred, They're gonna be over five hundred, And I

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Speaker 2: said it at eighty one, and I said, they like,

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Speaker 2: Whyity won? What why can't they be over five hundred.

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Speaker 2: I said, well they could, they could be over five hundred.

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, if you look at what

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Speaker 2: kind of improvement that is, I mean, you're talking about

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Speaker 2: a ten game improvement that's substantial, Like they helped themselves.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they helped themselves.

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Speaker 2: To fifteen more wins, which is about where it would

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Speaker 2: take to get in the playoffs.

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Speaker 6: Right, And I think that again, people they don't understand that.

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Speaker 6: You know, as much as people are excited about this team,

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Speaker 6: there's still a lot of elements of this team that

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Speaker 6: were a big part of that seventy two win team

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Speaker 6: from last year. So you know, things have to go right.

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Speaker 6: And I think that some things will go right. But

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Speaker 6: when you start looking at the Pirates and say, well,

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Speaker 6: if Henry Davis does this, if o'nel Cruz does this,

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Speaker 6: is who we think he is, if the two young

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Speaker 6: starting pitchers you know, jump jump right.

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Speaker 4: In and they're you know, reliable.

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Speaker 6: If Jared Jones comes back, I mean sooner or later,

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Speaker 6: you start to saying, well, that's a lot of ifs,

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Speaker 6: So they're not.

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Speaker 4: All going to happen. Some might, some might not. That

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Speaker 4: is why I'm probably thinking you go from.

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Speaker 6: Seventy one to seventy two wins or whatever it was

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Speaker 6: last year, so about seventy six seventy seven this year.

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Speaker 4: So if you're.

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Speaker 6: Asking me what I would bet I would probably favor

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Speaker 6: under seventy eight and a half.

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Speaker 2: Would you've given Cam Hayward a contract extension as the

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Speaker 2: Steelers have, well?

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Speaker 4: Was he signed already for now?

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Speaker 6: I was confused that I've read it three different times,

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Speaker 6: and I was confused.

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Speaker 4: Was he already signed for next year?

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Speaker 6: Which means this is a twenty twenty seven extension or

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Speaker 6: is this a twenty twenty six extension.

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Speaker 1: It's a two year contract.

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Speaker 2: Now we're thirty two million for twenty twenty six and

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven, so he's on the books through twenty seven. Now,

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Speaker 2: I thought he was on the books through twenty six.

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Speaker 2: They extended him and moved the money around, so that

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Speaker 2: actually created five point five million dollars in cap space

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Speaker 2: for this year. So the move actually creates more space

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Speaker 2: for this year. He had been set to earn fourteen

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Speaker 2: point two million and twenty five, so you know the

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Speaker 2: cap hit will be reduced so that they can actually

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Speaker 2: get some more room, probably to just give that.

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Speaker 1: To Rodgers on an increase from last year. That's my thinking.

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Speaker 6: I would tell you what I think is pretty clear

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Speaker 6: to me. I would tell you that it's pretty clear

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Speaker 6: to me that this was one of those money moves

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Speaker 6: that you know, I don't. I don't think there's any

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Speaker 6: chance that he plays in twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: You think he's that's sure, he's done. Huh, Well, I.

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Speaker 4: Mean I think that.

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Speaker 6: I think that the Steelers probably you know, definitely want

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Speaker 6: him back for one more year now if he's an

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Speaker 6: All Pro again, I guess, you know, it's different. But

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Speaker 6: I think people are forgetting that. There's a lot of

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Speaker 6: he was an All Pro, right, so.

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Speaker 4: He did okay this year, So give him one another

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Speaker 4: year and you know what, if he's good again.

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Speaker 6: You're you're already have him signed for you know, you

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Speaker 6: already have him signed for your next year. So to me,

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Speaker 6: I think that's that's that's I don't have a problem

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Speaker 2: You know thing, I think people just harken back to

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Speaker 2: last year and they're still mad about how he handled

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Speaker 2: himself going into the preseason at the end of training

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Speaker 2: camp a year ago, and they're applying that situation to

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Speaker 2: this one. And it's not apples to apples. It's just, oh, geez,

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Speaker 2: more money for Cam. Another restructure. You're always gonna have

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Speaker 2: that year, though, Paul. For these veterans where they either

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Speaker 2: end on a bigger contract than what they should have

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Speaker 2: ended on before they go out and leave and go

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Speaker 2: to another team, or retire or you've got dead cap,

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Speaker 2: it's just it's how it was with Ben, with Troy,

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Speaker 2: it'll happen with Cam.

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Speaker 1: It'll happen with TJ.

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Speaker 2: Anybody who you keep beyond that third contract, you're gonna

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Speaker 2: do this. So it's to me it's not all that

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Speaker 2: different with Cam. We're just still bitter about last year

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Speaker 2: more than we are, I think, truly upset about how

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Speaker 2: this contract was arranged, right.

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Speaker 4: I think that.

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Speaker 6: I think that's the biggest thing is that.

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Speaker 4: Uh, you know, it's clear.

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Speaker 6: It's clear that I think both parties would love Cam to,

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Speaker 6: you know, retire as a Steeler, and that's possible. But

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Speaker 6: I feel like whenever these contracts come up, uh, people

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Speaker 6: talked a lot about Cam, and of course last year

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Speaker 6: Cam didn't make it easy on himself because he wanted

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Speaker 6: more money or whatever, and of course, if you ask

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Speaker 6: for more money. This fan base seems to lose their minds.

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Speaker 4: But T. J. Watt will be interesting, well, he because I.

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Speaker 6: Think when when he's you know, unlike Cam Hayward, I

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Speaker 4: Real strong case.

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Speaker 6: That it is uh probably you know, his skill set

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Speaker 1: That's Paul's ice.

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Speaker 2: This isn't an apples to apples comparison about the contract.

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Speaker 1: Do it now.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers can just never say goodbye. My God.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers can't say goodbye to this era, and they

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Speaker 1: What the cap implications Forget all that.

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Speaker 2: My negative reaction to this contract is and would have been,

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Speaker 7: How dangerous do you perceive Pittman to be with Rodgers

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Speaker 8: I don't think they're dangers at all. Like I don't

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Speaker 1: He can beat you up at the line.

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Speaker 7: Onion ringk Whoo the X at one O five to nine.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the four o'clock hour The Mark Madden Show.

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Speaker 2: Tim Benson for Mark talking about that wild Penguins game

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Speaker 2: last night against Carolina right now, Hurricanes five, Pens four

445
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Speaker 2: in yep, wait for it, a shootout. The Pens go

446
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Speaker 2: down to defeat again as they go beyond overtime after

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Speaker 2: a wild comeback. Joining me right now to talk about it.

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Speaker 2: Tyler Kennedy, former Pittsburgh Penguin and of course with sports

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Speaker 2: and at Pittsburgh TK, how are you.

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Speaker 5: I'm doing great, boys. I wish it was sunny out,

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Speaker 5: but that's fine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I wish they would have won last night

453
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Speaker 2: because they worked so hard to get back into it.

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Speaker 2: Brian Rust, I thought was just phenomenal. He really showed

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Speaker 2: a lot of guts down the stretch that felt like playoff.

456
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Speaker 2: Brian Rust early in his career with those two goals

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Speaker 2: and an assist to get them to overtime in the

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Speaker 2: first place.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Brian Rust is maybe the future captain of the team.

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Speaker 5: You know, the guy who's been around Sydney Crosey for

461
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Speaker 5: we're going on eleven years right now, and a guy

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Speaker 5: that can elevate his game. He can play up and

463
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Speaker 5: down throughout the lineup, and he's a leader. And it

464
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Speaker 5: showed last night the big dogs are out, he steps

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Speaker 5: up and he makes he scores a you know, he

466
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Speaker 5: plays unbelievable, scores a big goal. He does all that

467
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Speaker 5: stuff really well. I like Brian Rust. I think he

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Speaker 5: is again a cornerstone player for the Pittsburgh Penguins right

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Speaker 5: now and moving forward for a long long time.

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Speaker 2: One complaint that I had from folks who are pushing

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Speaker 2: back on the idea of the Penguins acquiring a center

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Speaker 2: at the deadline of veterans center, like, for instance, a

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Speaker 2: Trocheck who's thirty two. I kept hearing, you can't give

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Speaker 2: away assets for guys in their thirties. Russ is thirty three,

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Speaker 2: Manta is thirty one. I don't think that's too old

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Speaker 2: in hockey in the year twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I'm wrong about that.

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Speaker 4: No, like.

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Speaker 5: Where I think they get older is when they hit

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Speaker 5: thirty four thirty five, Like that's in my opinion, like

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Speaker 5: the back nine or very close, you know. But the

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Speaker 5: key there with Vincent Toorchek, which I think was surprised

483
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Speaker 5: he didn't get moved, but he would have been. He

484
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Speaker 5: would have solved a lot of issues for the Penguins

485
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Speaker 5: from the shootouts. He's very good at shootouts and the

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Speaker 5: face off circle. The Penguins have struggled with, really struggle

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Speaker 5: with both those. He comes in, he feels he fills

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Speaker 5: that need for now in the future. He's a guy

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Speaker 5: that would want to play here. I'm pretty sure I've

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Speaker 5: talked to him and he said he's very open to

491
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Speaker 5: playing in Pittsburgh again. Playing in front of his family,

492
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Speaker 5: his friends, people he grew up with. I think could

493
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Speaker 5: be huge for the Penguin City as a whole, for

494
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Speaker 5: the youth. But I'm I think Kyle doub has a

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Speaker 5: plan and he's not veering off that plan no matter

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Speaker 5: what I think he's He knows that they are, that

497
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Speaker 5: they could make the playoffs. He doesn't waiver if they don't.

498
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Speaker 5: But he's got a five six year plan that he's

499
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Speaker 5: really sticking to and that's that's just what he's going

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Speaker 5: to do. And again, I don't think he's willing to

501
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Speaker 5: give up assets to win now or to do anything

502
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Speaker 5: like that. But again I think the Vinci and Tortec

503
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Speaker 5: might be an exception. But again, you never know what

504
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Speaker 5: they're asking for a guy like that.

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Speaker 2: It was apparently pretty high at the deadline, so I

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Speaker 2: can understand not giving up everything New York reportedly wanted.

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Speaker 2: I was just pushing back more than the notion that

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Speaker 2: he's too old and like washed up already, or that

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Speaker 2: you can never give away assets when they have so many,

510
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Speaker 2: they've collected so many. And I also echo your points

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Speaker 2: about what he's good at face offs shootouts, two things

512
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Speaker 2: with the Penguins are painfully deficient right now, although I

513
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Speaker 2: will say this, Novak did win twelve to twenty last night,

514
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Speaker 2: so he was better than not and Atchari won eleven

515
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Speaker 2: of sixteen, so they were pretty decent in the circle.

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Speaker 1: At least those two were.

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Speaker 2: Raquel has struggled, though Laza was fifty to fifty, and

518
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Speaker 2: the shootout thing, I don't know what else can be

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Speaker 2: said at this point, TK, and it's not like you

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Speaker 2: go back in time and say, oh my god, if

521
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Speaker 2: they had won every shootout, they'd be better than the Hurricanes. Well,

522
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Speaker 2: you're not gonna win every shootout, like you're not supposed

523
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Speaker 2: to lose every shootout, but they're losing every shootout, Like

524
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Speaker 2: just what the difference? And you're breathing easier about the

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Speaker 2: playoffs at this point.

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Speaker 5: Especially if they don't get in because of a point.

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Speaker 5: You know, that would be a killer, right if they

528
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Speaker 5: don't get in because of one point one shootout lost,

529
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Speaker 5: like that would be huge. And a couple things. You know, yes,

530
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Speaker 5: we're we got so many assets, but I think you

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Speaker 5: have to realize, like how many players are just assets

532
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Speaker 5: that never really come to fruition, right, Like how many

533
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Speaker 5: players are highly touted or you know, one to five

534
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Speaker 5: rounds where they never actually ever play in the NHL.

535
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Speaker 5: But what's good that Kyle has those he can trade

536
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Speaker 5: for other players that are established. So I think that's

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Speaker 5: that's why you want to have those draft picks as

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Speaker 5: many as possible. Not so much you're thinking they're going

539
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Speaker 5: to be coming into your system, but it's more of

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Speaker 5: a trade trip, a trade chip for other teams. And

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Speaker 5: then one thing, you know, I wonder if MWS tells

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Speaker 5: the guys before the game, Hey, this is who we

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Speaker 5: have going in the shootout if it goes there, because

544
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Speaker 5: the more you couldn't can prepare guys for the shootout.

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Speaker 5: I think it takes a lot of anxiety and takes

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Speaker 5: a lot of you know, pressure off because you know

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Speaker 5: you're going. I always felt after we got through the

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Speaker 5: overtime and coaches, you know, their chit chat, they're like

549
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Speaker 5: doing the little secret squirrel to each other who they're picking,

550
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Speaker 5: you know, and you're like, oh, I wonder if we

551
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Speaker 5: can pick. You know. It's like that anxiety because when

552
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Speaker 5: you do get picture, okay, what am I doing? You know?

553
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Speaker 5: But I felt I feel like if a coach would

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Speaker 5: tell his players almost before the game or like right

555
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Speaker 5: away after as soon as it goes to overtime, I

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Speaker 5: just think it gives players a lot more time to prepare,

557
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Speaker 5: get their emotions under control, and think about literally what

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Speaker 5: they're going to do. Because again I always felt, as

559
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Speaker 5: soon as you get picked or you don't get picked,

560
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Speaker 5: there's like so much emotion into it and it can

561
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Speaker 5: throw off your moves, your hands, all that stuff because

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Speaker 5: there is a lot of pressure in that situation.

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Speaker 2: Would you see that went wrong in the third the

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Speaker 2: most in that game where they had to scramble to

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Speaker 2: catch up.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think they let off the gas a little bit,

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Speaker 5: you know, and Carolina is a good team, Like I

568
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Speaker 5: feel like a lot of teams went they play the

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Speaker 5: Penguins Now. I don't think the Penguins are respected as

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Speaker 5: much when you don't have Sid and Gino in the lineup.

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Speaker 5: So when they come in, you know, I think they

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Speaker 5: woke up a little bit more in the third period,

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Speaker 5: and the Penguins got on their heels and then they

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Speaker 5: started to figure out and scrambled to Like the last

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Speaker 5: five minutes.

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Speaker 2: When we were talking earlier about what's too old in hockey,

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Speaker 2: let me ask you, TK, when did you first ever

578
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Speaker 2: think that you were too old?

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Speaker 1: And when is Jordan stall ever gonna get too old?

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Speaker 5: It might not be like age. It's more of like

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Speaker 5: the years you had, you know. It's the wear and tear,

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Speaker 5: how you take care of your body.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the amazing thing about Stallsey, Like he's not

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Speaker 2: only just thirty seven, but he's been playing in the

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Speaker 2: NHL since he was eighteen.

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Speaker 1: Next year is going to be his twentieth year. For

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Speaker 1: crying out loud.

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Speaker 5: And the one thing about Staalgy that he was like

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Speaker 5: a manch at a younger age. And Stalls he slept

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Speaker 5: like a bear, Like I've never seen a guy sleep

591
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Speaker 5: like a bear like. He would take a two hour

592
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Speaker 5: nap and be like go to bed at ten o'clock

593
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Speaker 5: at night like it like nothing like. He sleeps so well.

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Speaker 5: Maybe that's honestly why he is playing so well, because

595
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 5: he's so well rested. You know, he's never you know again,

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Speaker 5: I think that's part of it. He's always good at

597
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Speaker 5: like resting his body, calming his mind. The size, the

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Speaker 5: size of them. He's a guy that was able to

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Speaker 5: go from like a second line center to like the

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Speaker 5: third or fourth line because he could be a depth centerman.

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Speaker 5: He understands his role. He's very good at it. There's

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Speaker 5: a lot of things why I think Stalls he's still playing.

603
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Speaker 5: But and again, he's durable. Like those big guys when

604
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Speaker 5: they're athletic and they move well, they become so durable

605
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Speaker 5: because they can use their size so much to a

606
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 5: little guy who's getting you know, banged around a little bit.

607
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Speaker 5: When I got hit from a guy who's two twenty, like,

608
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 5: I felt it the next day, where I don't think

609
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Speaker 5: he felt that like I did. You know, when you

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Speaker 5: kind of know you're coming to an end is one

611
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 5: you start getting traded, bringing every deadline, which sucked. And

612
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 5: my warm up was longer than the practices, just trying

613
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Speaker 5: to get my body to a place where I needed

614
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Speaker 5: to perform at a certain level. You know, that's when

615
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Speaker 5: I kind of knew, all right, this is this is

616
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 5: coming to an end. What's the next step. But again,

617
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 5: when the warm up was an hour and the practice

618
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 5: was forty five, it was time, I think, you know,

619
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Speaker 5: But again it's the years. You know, when you go

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Speaker 5: to the finals, Like when you think of the teams

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Speaker 5: that go to the finals, I went to the finals

622
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Speaker 5: two years in a row, my first two years, and

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Speaker 5: they were like war zones going into the playoffs, just

624
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Speaker 5: because every team played us so hard, having sid having

625
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 5: milk and like every team like I felt my first

626
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 5: honestly going to the finals winning. But my first five

627
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 5: years with the Penguins were such hard years because we

628
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 5: got everyone's best. You know, no one came and be like,

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Speaker 5: oh this is gonna be a point night, or hey,

630
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 5: like we're gonna we're gonna smoke these guys like they

631
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 5: knew they had to bring the absolute best because we

632
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 5: had a wagon of a team. You know, we had

633
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 5: Sid Gino de Tank Flory, like you better play your

634
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 5: butt off because we just had the power to win

635
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 5: games just on skill and you know, good goaltending. So

636
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 5: there's there's a lot of a lot of things that

637
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 5: go into a long career. And that's why you got

638
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 5: to respect Sid because again, the way he died, the

639
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 5: way he's dialed in, the way he takes care of

640
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 5: his body for that long like that, that's a big

641
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 5: difference maker.

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Speaker 2: Sixty seconds here before we go to k you mentioned

643
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Speaker 2: tending just a moment ago. Once you think of the

644
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 2: goaltending the last couple of games, in particular last night,

645
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 2: I thought Skinner made a bunch of really good saves.

646
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Speaker 2: It just goes to show, like you know, you can

647
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 2: make a lot of good ones. It doesn't take one

648
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 2: bad one out of the net. I didn't like the

649
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 2: first goal where you didn't catch it clean. It came

650
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 2: off the heel of the glove. That was a rebound

651
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 2: that got cashed in on. I'm not saying it ruined

652
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Speaker 2: a night or anything like that, but I'm just talking

653
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Speaker 2: about how thin the line is between what's the stellar

654
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Speaker 2: goaltending performance and one where you don't get a victory.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I always when I rate the goaltending, you

656
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Speaker 5: know they're going to score goals, but it's the momentum

657
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Speaker 5: goals when they can score two to three in a

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Speaker 5: row where they're like bang bang bang. Like I find

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Speaker 5: Skinner and selfs are so good at making the big

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Speaker 5: saves when a team's coming on or there's a big

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Speaker 5: power play they have like they're very good at making

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Speaker 5: those kind of saves. Yeah, they're you know, like you said,

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Speaker 5: the once you know that rebound goes in. But again

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Speaker 5: I felt, you know, Skinner made some big, big stops

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Speaker 5: Carolina was going east west when they started humming down low,

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Speaker 5: Like he made some stops that could have went in

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Speaker 5: very easily. And what I like about Skinner he's a

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Speaker 5: younger goalie, but he's got like a veteran presence about

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Speaker 5: him that he's very calming in his interviews in the

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Speaker 5: dressing room, the way he plays like he's been there before,

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Speaker 5: you know, like he's got that like where I always

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Speaker 5: like when I played in the front of Flower, he

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Speaker 5: had that calming sense, like, yeah, if you screw up,

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Speaker 5: I got you, brother, you know. He and I feel

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Speaker 5: like Skinner's got a little bit of that that little

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Speaker 5: bit of that that veteran like leadership. But I like him.

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Speaker 5: I like the way he played. I like the goaltending

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Speaker 5: trio right now. I think the future of goaltending for

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Speaker 5: Pittsburgh is very bright with the two guys you know

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Speaker 5: in Wilkes, which are having career years and they're kind

681
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 5: of battling it out down there to see who comes

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Speaker 5: up and kind of you know, takes the first obviously

683
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 5: gonna be mirror shop, but they're still battling it out

684
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Speaker 5: to see who comes up and does well. So the

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Speaker 5: goaltending situation has been a very good change for the

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Speaker 5: Pittsburgh Penguins compared to the last couple of years.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: TK, Thanks a bunch, good catching up with you again.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for coming on and we'll talk again soon.

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Speaker 5: All right, man, have a great day.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Toner Kennedy for Pittsburgh Penguin.

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Speaker 2: I was sports at Pittsburgh four o'clock hour of the

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Speaker 2: Mark Madden Show, rolling on plenty more to come. We'll

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Speaker 2: get back into some of the Steelers free agency talk

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Speaker 2: as well more hockey before we're done as well, And

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Speaker 2: if you missed Mike de Corsi earlier, love Mike coming

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Speaker 2: up in the five o'clock hour, don't forget about the

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Speaker 2: coaches show tonight at six, and you're home for the Bens.

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Speaker 2: One thing we haven't talked about today very much is

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Speaker 2: the World Baseball Classic mess, which is kind of making

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Speaker 2: the Tmosa guys look bad because their manager didn't know

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Speaker 2: the rules.

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Speaker 1: So you haven't heard.

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Speaker 2: Tuosa lost to Italy and uh, they didn't play a

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Speaker 2: lot some of their guys, I guess and Mark DeRosa

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00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,720
Speaker 2: went on the Major League Baseball Network and talked about

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Speaker 2: how he thought the team had already clinched its spot

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Speaker 2: in the next round and they hadn't because they see

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Speaker 2: two of their other opponents, Italy and mech Too playing

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Speaker 2: each other and now it comes down to like run

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Speaker 2: differential for them to get in. I'm not going to

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Speaker 2: get into the tiebreaker scenarios because it's too convoluted and complicated.

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Speaker 2: But if I remember right, they need Italy to lose

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Speaker 2: the Americans do, and they need him to lose by

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Speaker 2: like four runs or more or something like that. So oh,

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Speaker 2: if Mexico wins, it can't be by more than four runs,

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Speaker 2: That's what it is. And if Italy wins, then America

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Speaker 2: is in okay, So that's how it goes. Whatever, whatever,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. The point being is just like me,

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Speaker 2: the manager didn't know the rules. But I'm not there.

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00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: I'm not calling the games. I'm not reporting on the games.

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Speaker 2: This was de Rosa on the MLB network.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna look at it.

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Speaker 11: I'm gonna get some guys off their feet, no question

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Speaker 11: about it. I'd like to get Goldie a start, and

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Speaker 11: you know, he has been awesome, just a leader of

733
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Speaker 11: men behind the scenes with Aaron Judge. I'd like to

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Speaker 11: get him in there. I'd like to get Gunner in

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Speaker 11: there again. A ton of respect for Italy. It's weird.

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Speaker 5: Want to win.

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Speaker 1: We want to win this game, even.

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Speaker 11: Though our tickets punched at a quarterfinals because Mexico plays Italy.

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Speaker 11: Actually tomorrow, So the way the schedule lines up, this

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Speaker 11: is an important game for US. Nolan mcclan will start.

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Speaker 11: He's on a bump and he's good to go. He's

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Speaker 11: an absolute beast.

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Speaker 2: Right and I think he sort of caught himself there

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Speaker 2: and realized what he said was wrong and tried to

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Speaker 2: backpedal and get himself out of it.

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Speaker 1: But not knowing the rules and not knowing the.

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Speaker 2: Tiebreaker, I think just about everybody in America didn't know

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Speaker 2: the rules of the tie breakers until this situation presented itself,

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Speaker 2: and we're all just kind of checked out until the

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Speaker 2: playoffs anyway. I don't think everybody was as engaged as

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Speaker 2: they were in the preliminary round or group stage play

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Speaker 2: like they were, for instance in US Canada Olympic hockey

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Speaker 2: and along those lines. As much as people want to

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Speaker 2: capitalize on that momentum and turn the World Baseball Classic

755
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Speaker 2: into what the Olympics were for hockey, it's just not

756
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Speaker 2: going to get there, because this is just a reshuffling

757
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Speaker 2: of Major League baseball talent, a redistributing of Major Leaue

758
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Speaker 2: baseball talent, and assigning countries to people like you look

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Speaker 2: at the Italian roster Kyle.

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Speaker 1: Nicholas is on that team.

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00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 2: Aaron Nola, Michael Lorenzen, JJ Derossio is one of their catchers.

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Speaker 2: He plays for Anaheim. He's from Venezuela. So to me,

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Speaker 2: the whole national pride aspect is diluted. You look at

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Speaker 2: the Great Britain team, they're all American borner from the Bahamas.

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Speaker 1: There's like one or two guys from the UK. What

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Speaker 1: are we doing here?

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Speaker 5: I know.

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Speaker 2: You get a little of that in international hockey too,

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Speaker 2: in Olympic hockey, like, for instance, Daniel Mentanudo kid I

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Speaker 2: covered at Robert Morris, he played for Team Italy because

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Speaker 2: he played in the Italian League for two years.

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Speaker 1: He's Canadian. So you get some of that, but not.

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Speaker 2: From the contending countries, not from the countries that really matter,

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Speaker 2: you know, Like.

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Speaker 1: They were the host countries.

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Speaker 2: They got to have their team in there, and they

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Speaker 2: got to use a lot of pro players from their league,

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Speaker 2: which largely ironically is in Austria. But that's the exception.

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Speaker 2: Everybody from the lot V and TA games from Latvia.

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Speaker 2: The Swedes are with the Swedes, the Fins are with

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Speaker 2: the Finns, America, Canada, Russia, all that. So it's it

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Speaker 2: doesn't mean as much to me. The baseball is good,

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Speaker 2: the quality of play is good. Cruises being has been interesting. Schemes'

784
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Speaker 2: start was great, But like, I'm not getting wrapped up

785
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Speaker 2: in this because if I see nothing but major leaguers

786
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 2: born in California playing for Italy, how can I be

787
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Speaker 2: pissed off?

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Speaker 1: Italy advances one five nine The X. Hey, we're in

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Speaker 1: your smart speakers sucking.

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Speaker 5: Listen to the X everywhere you go.

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Speaker 4: Tell your smart speakers.

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Speaker 7: Alosa play one oh five point nine The X on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 4: Doubux d x FM.

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Speaker 1: It's for and iHeart Radio station guaranteed human.

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Speaker 2: Christi Dampsky come it up in just a little bit

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Speaker 2: from the trim. Chris is on my podcast once a

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Speaker 2: week Breakfast Bens, and he reports for the trip covering

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Speaker 2: the Steelers that we do our offseason podcast. So Chris

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Speaker 2: will break down a lot on NFL free agency.

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Speaker 1: Got a couple minutes here. I do want to talk

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00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: about the Penguins a little bit more.

802
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 2: In that game yesterday, What an incredible game in terms

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Speaker 2: of a comeback for the Pens. I was really engaged

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00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,439
Speaker 2: in that one throughout playing an important team the leader

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Speaker 2: of the Metropolitan Division, the Carolina Hurricanes. They're great at home.

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00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 2: The Penns rally back Brian rust a singular effort late

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Speaker 2: in the game to put the team on his shoulders

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00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 2: and get them to overtime, and then, of course what

809
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 2: overtime ended, I felt like crap because I.

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Speaker 1: Knew they weren't going to win in the shootout.

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Speaker 2: My thoughts on the shootout have always been I prefer

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Speaker 2: the shootout to three on three hockey because I don't

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Speaker 2: think three on three hockey is a real part of hockey,

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Speaker 2: Like people tend to complain about the shootout, at least

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00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 2: in the shootout, like you'll see a couple of breakaways

816
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 2: a game. You never see three on three. And then

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00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 2: when they got the penalty to go four on three,

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Speaker 2: I thought, Okay, maybe this is it. This is how

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00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 2: they can avoid the shootout, because the Penguins always lose

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Speaker 2: in the shootout, and if they don't make the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: it's not gonna be because they went one in ten

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Speaker 2: in the shootout. It was because they couldn't even win

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Speaker 2: four games or five in the shootout, just split the difference.

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Speaker 2: People can say, oh, if they had those nine points

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Speaker 2: back they'd be in great shape.

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Speaker 1: Well, sure, but you're not gonna win.

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Speaker 2: Nine out of ten, like you shouldn't lose nine out

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Speaker 2: of ten or ten out of eleven. Now, you know,

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Speaker 2: just split it go five hundred and like you're supposed

830
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Speaker 2: to go in a coin flip kind of competition like

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Speaker 2: that is.

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Speaker 1: Four one two.

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Speaker 2: Three three three wxdx or eight three three four one

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Speaker 2: two ninety nine thirty nine. So Penguins fans want to

835
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Speaker 2: hear from you on what you saw yesterday, Jeff Skinner,

836
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 2: I thought, what was it forty saves? He made some

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00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 2: unbelievable saves as the game went along, but you can

838
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Speaker 2: see how thin the line he is. Like we talked

839
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Speaker 2: about with Tyler Kennedy, that one goal that he allowed.

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00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:51,919
Speaker 2: I think it was the first goal he should have caught.

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00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 2: That puck went off the heel of his glove turned

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00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 2: into a rebound, loose puck score. And when the margins

843
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 2: are that narrow in the National Hockey League, this is

844
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Speaker 2: the old theory of as many good saves as.

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Speaker 1: You make, you can't take a bad one out of

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Speaker 1: the net.

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Speaker 2: I'm not putting it all on him, like I said,

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Speaker 2: as the shootout, they killed him and frankly it was

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00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 2: the third period that killed him. They got to be

850
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 2: more careful going to the box and stick penalties and

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Speaker 2: things like that, but they were just boat raced in

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Speaker 2: the third. Now you get one point against Carolina, maybe

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Speaker 2: get another one the next time you see him to

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Speaker 2: bookend the road trip. That's good in terms of what

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Speaker 2: you're doing against the top team in the metro.

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Speaker 1: That's good enough.

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Speaker 2: Go out there and get two from Las Vegas because

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Speaker 2: Vegas stinks. Vegas right now is really struggling. They're in

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00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 2: third place, they've lost six to seven and they cannot score.

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00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 2: So that's a winnable game and there are points to

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Speaker 2: be had there. Also want to talk about the Cam

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Speaker 2: Hayward contract situation. Very simple question I put on Twitter,

863
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 2: do you like the Cam Hayward contract extension? Yes, forty

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Speaker 2: five fifty five percent, So more people didn't want to

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Speaker 2: see Cam get an extension than did. That surprises me

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Speaker 2: because I didn't think that there was as much bitterness

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Speaker 2: that had held over from last year's contract hold out

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Speaker 2: with Cam as there had been. I thought the good

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Speaker 2: season that he had erased all that and this is

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Speaker 2: just a very practical contract.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna give it to him anyway. I'd rather get

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Speaker 1: it out of the way now.

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Speaker 2: And if this is where the five million dollars comes

874
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Speaker 2: from on this cap to get Rogers in. If he

875
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Speaker 2: wants twenty instead of fourteen, or nineteen instead of fifteen,

876
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Speaker 2: then so be it. I do understand the rolling of

877
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Speaker 2: the eyes and saying, my god, are they ever gonna

878
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Speaker 2: allow themselves to move on from this collection of players

879
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Speaker 2: that hasn't won anything? But it's not like this move

880
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 2: didn't serve a greater purpose to create cap space for

881
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 2: this year. Sure, they're gonna get pitched eventually. Any veteran

882
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 2: that you take to the end of a contract, it's

883
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Speaker 2: gonna come back to bite you eventually, But for this

884
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 2: year giving him an extension and opening up five million

885
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Speaker 2: dollars of cap space in the process after a second

886
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Speaker 2: team All Pro campaign without much depth at that position.

887
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Speaker 1: By the way, what are you gonna do? Cut him

888
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: and just create another hole?

889
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Speaker 4: Now?

890
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Speaker 1: Jeff calling from Beaver, You're on one, O five nine

891
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Speaker 1: the X, by goody.

892
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Speaker 3: What do you what do you think of manthis played

893
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Speaker 3: so far the season? I mean, do you think how

894
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:22,720
Speaker 3: much of a role do you think.

895
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Speaker 2: He's he's been fantastic. I mean, Chinikov has been a

896
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 2: little bit more dynamic. But as I was saying on

897
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 2: the broadcast last night when I was on with Metzer

898
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 2: during an intermission, I have to stop talking about Chinikov

899
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Speaker 2: and remind myself to talk more about Manta because he's

900
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 2: been very good and everybody's running him off as if

901
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: he can't come back next year.

902
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Speaker 1: Maybe he can.

903
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 2: Again, this is this team has the second most cap

904
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Speaker 2: space in the NHL right now, So if they like him,

905
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Speaker 2: keep him, if he doesn't break the bank in the process.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say my second question is would you

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Speaker 3: fixtend Mantha, Brazo and Novak in the off season?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would considerate. Thanks Jeff for the call. I

909
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 2: think anything's on the table. With all the cap space

910
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 2: that they have, they can't keep everybody, and I would

911
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 2: like to see them add more good players, but they

912
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 2: can consider it. Hey, Javon Hargrave just went to Green

913
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Speaker 2: Bay for people who want him to come back, speaking

914
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Speaker 2: of the D line that's not happening. Hargrave to green

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Speaker 2: Bay free agency talk with Chris Damski.

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