1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Well, best time of day. Welcome to our number four 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: and good afternoon. You're at home with Gary Selvyn talking 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: a little home improvement, as we do every Saturday and Sunday. 4 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: And by the way, if you missed the first three hours, 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: you can always pick those up on the iHeart podcast. 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: It's at Home with Gary Sullivan and they're very neatly 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: and newly labeled. Tell you exactly what you're gonna listen to, 8 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: So check them out. Something perks your interest. Take a listen, 9 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: all right. Our phone number if you'd like to join us, 10 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: it's eight hundred and eight two three eight two five 11 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: five and let's go to Wilson. Wilson. 12 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 2: Welcome, good afternoon, Gary, thanks to taking my call. 13 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: You're quite welcome. Thank you. Well. 14 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,919 Speaker 2: I bought a house about six years ago. I've been 15 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,319 Speaker 2: renovating it and I finally got to the best part 16 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: of the house, which is my man cave in the basement. 17 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 2: All right, So, and it's right now. It's got barnwood 18 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: called into all the walls, and it's got timber and 19 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 2: timber on it also. But it's been it's dirty from 20 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 2: all the dust and all that stuff. And I will 21 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 2: just wondering what's the best thing to bring that wood 22 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 2: back to life and clean it. 23 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: So the the so it's just dirt and dust, Is 24 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: that basically what's on there? 25 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 2: Yes, I. 26 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: So it seems like it needs a pretty deep cleaning, 27 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: correct correct. Yeah, So I would say something like a 28 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 1: tri sodium phosphate would probably be the deepest cleaning, uh 29 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: heavy duty cleaner. It's bare wood, so you know, try 30 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: sodium fox fate. You can get to hardware, so you 31 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: can even get it to the grocery store. I think 32 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: just mix that up. If you don't want to use that, 33 00:01:55,800 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: you want to use something maybe a little less harsh. 34 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: You could use an oxygenated bleach, which is also a 35 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: powder that's mixed with water. Either one of those two. 36 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: You know, goggles gloves are going to be needed. Stiff 37 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: scrub rushed for sure. You can get a no rinse 38 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: tricedium phosphate so that you don't have to rinse it. 39 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: You could just kind of dry it and then after 40 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: you really let it dry and I'm talking a couple 41 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: of days, I come back. Yeah, I come back with 42 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: like a Danish oil and you know, yeah, it's not 43 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: a protecting, it's a it will be absorbed by the wood. 44 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: It's kind of a rejuvenator. And and I don't know 45 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: if you need to do any light sanding. 46 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 2: No, I don't think. I don't think I need to 47 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: do no sanding on any of those. 48 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: Good good I think, you know, I would just clean 49 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: it with the tritidium phosphate water, let it dry a 50 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: couple of days, and get some daintish oil. You can 51 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: google it and read what it is. But it's a penetrant. 52 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: It's it's it's a it's it comes in some colors, 53 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:20,119 Speaker 1: but you know, it's not really a stain. It's simply 54 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: an oil. Tongue oil is another one. Tongue is Tongue 55 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: oil is like a really deluded urethane, so that's a 56 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: little bit more of a protectant. But I think I 57 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: would just I think I would just put some daintish 58 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: oil on there, and I put a couple of coats 59 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: at least on there. 60 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that sounds great. So with a brush, so 61 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 2: basically just brush and and uh and the product. Just 62 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 2: brush it on and just let it dry. 63 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: Yep, that's all you need to do. 64 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: Okay, awesome, Well that's my winter project. So I'll be 65 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: doing that here soon. 66 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: Very good, very good, good luck much, thank you, take care, 67 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: bye bye, and talking a little home improvement and glad 68 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: you could join me. Let's go to don don welcome, 69 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: hi hi here. 70 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 3: I started a carport project back in the beginning of October, 71 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 3: and this guy was supposed to pour a cement's lab 72 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 3: in two weeks, and he was supposed to be here 73 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 3: last Tuesday, and he still isn't here. And now I'm 74 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 3: beginning to think it's too cold. 75 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: For c men. What do you think, Well, you can 76 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: pour cment when it's cold. I would prefer not to 77 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: port when it's below freezing, but you can. They'll put 78 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: any freeze in it, so I mean, and you can 79 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: still part as my answer, whether have you talked to him? 80 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: What's his intentions? 81 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 2: No? 82 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 3: I haven't talked to him at all, just every time 83 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 3: I asked him. You know, one dizzy thing is you 84 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 3: won't make it. It's two weeks, which is what it 85 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 3: started out, and he still hasn't made it. Yeah, but 86 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 3: then now it's going to be below freezing pretty much 87 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 3: or close to freezing even during today. And I was 88 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 3: just wondering, well that cause any problem with the integratory 89 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 3: of the cement or anything. Well, I know about anti freeze, 90 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 3: but I don't know much about it. 91 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and and you can, I mean, you can 92 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: pour it, but you know, I mean I I've actually 93 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: seen him poor buildings floors that are outdoors and it's 94 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: below zero. I wouldn't do that, But I mean, if 95 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: you have a day like today, I wouldn't be too 96 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: hesitant of pouring it. I mean, pooring concrete's kind of chemistry, 97 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: and you're adding another thing in there of anti freeze. 98 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: But I wouldn't do it when it's like in the 99 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: teens or something like that, trying to create a little 100 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: you know, you know, a line in the sand, if 101 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: you will. But I can check the exact temperatures if 102 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: you want, and and and talk about that when we 103 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 1: come back. But you know, there's certainly some limitations. 104 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 3: Okay, I appreciate it, all. 105 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: Right, very good, thank you much. And uh yeah, and 106 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: I can't move fast enough. But yeah, there are there 107 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: are any freeze, and and it is chemistry, and it'll 108 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: be covered and it'll be a cure and seal, so 109 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: there'll be some added you know, things that you're gonna 110 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: want to watch certainly, Uh, things you want to watch, 111 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: and that the cure and seal compound would also be 112 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: good because this time of year and where you're located 113 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:48,679 Speaker 1: is you know, I'm always nervous about road salt getting 114 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: up there if they didn't use a ceiling when they 115 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: poured it, and getting in there and pitting it. Uh 116 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: but uh it can to answer the question, it can be. 117 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: It can be poured, and there just needs to be 118 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: some precautions taken for sure. All right, uh n anybody, 119 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: We're gonna take a short little break and uh, let 120 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: me give you the phone number. It's eight hundred eighty 121 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: two three eight two five five and you're at home 122 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: with Gary Sullivan right here in fifty five garc the 123 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: talk station. All right, back to work, we go at 124 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: home with Gary Sullivan and uh, by the way, we're 125 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: gonna have a very interesting, hopefully interesting guest. It'll be 126 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: an interesting subject too, and looking forward to talking to Beth. 127 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: She is the executive director of Cincinnati Preservation and Older 128 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: Homes and we're gonna find out exactly what their mission is. 129 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna find it very interesting. It's an 130 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: educational vehicle to help people with older homes and help 131 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: preserve them, and even if the house isn't there. Yeah, 132 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: we'll get into that too. I hope you find it interesting. 133 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: You know, one of the things when we were talking before, 134 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: we said about the fellow that called with the piano 135 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: and how it affected his piano talking about humidity, and 136 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the show, I was talking about 137 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: how humidity affects the house, and we talk a lot 138 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: about that during the course of time. And one of 139 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: the things that I know in houses that you'll start 140 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: seeing as it really dries out is if you look 141 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: at the and it usually happens on corners are up 142 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: by the wall and the ceiling. As the wall and 143 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: the house and the air all dries and dries and dry, 144 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: sometimes you'll start seeing the drywall tape. It'll start peeling away, 145 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: it'll start creating a bubble. It may even look torn. 146 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: You may see nail heads that are popping out through 147 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 1: the drywall. And when you see that, it's really caused 148 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: by probably not enough mud being applied over the tape. 149 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: And it's also caused by low humidity inside our homes. 150 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: As things dry out, things start moving, tape gets broken. 151 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: So how do you fix that when you have nail pops, 152 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: because they're not drywalls, not all screwed in and nailed in, 153 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: and those nail pops, that nail starts working out and 154 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: it pops through the topping compound starts showing is go 155 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: next to that nail and run a drywall screw through 156 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: the drywall into the wood above it, and then just 157 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: take and set that nail below the surface of the drywall, 158 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: and then coming back with topping compound, you can cover 159 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: the screw and the nail and that screw's not going 160 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: to work out like a nail does, and so you've 161 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: stabilized the flexing of that drywall. And then for the tape, 162 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: the same thing occurs, and sometimes it's actually pulled away 163 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: from the drywall. And if you get some seam tape, 164 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: or if you'd like just use some Elber's glue, get 165 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: that nozzle in there. You might want to hydrate the 166 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: tape first. And the way you would hydrate the tape 167 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: is just get a wet rag warm water on it 168 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 1: and just hold it on there and let it absorb 169 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: some of that moisture so that that tape then becomes flexible. 170 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: A little Elmer's glue or seam adhesive underneath that. Take 171 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: that warm cloth again, working it over the top of 172 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: the tape and getting it to lay smooth and let 173 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: it dry and once it's dried, coming back with a 174 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: with a a taping knife and some topping compound and 175 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: smooth that whole area out. Will We'll fix that whole problem. 176 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: And I it's not that difficult of a job. You 177 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: have to paint it. You have to prime it first 178 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: and then then paint it. But it certainly certainly will 179 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: do a good job for you. And really, you know, 180 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: dress up the room a little because it looks like 181 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: it's in a state of dishm fair when the tape 182 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: is pulling and the nils are popping and you know 183 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: there's all that movement. Now another thing. A couple of 184 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 1: days ago, we talked a little bit about this with 185 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: Ron Wilson when we started to show. We had a 186 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: very windy day, very very windy just the other day, 187 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: and I was telling them it's just a great time 188 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: to really pay attention to your home. And I'm saying 189 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: this for everybody listening up there. If you get a 190 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: windy day, attention see if you can hear the wind 191 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 1: inside your house. I know it sounds weird, but what 192 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: you'll do is you're going to see here and feel 193 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 1: where there's drafts. And one area that many of us 194 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: don't pay attention to because sometimes it's in a closet, 195 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: sometimes it's in a hallway, it could be any number 196 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: of places in your home, and that is the the 197 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: access door that gets you into your attic. Yeah, the 198 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks I've been telling you get up 199 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: in the attic and see what's going on in there. 200 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: But you can also Usually that access store is nothing 201 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: more than a piece of plywood that they've cut a 202 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: hole in the ceiling. They've got a little rail, they 203 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: got some trim molding, and there's a piece of plywood. 204 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: You can tape some foam panels on the top of that, 205 00:12:54,920 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: which will be an insulator and will help. But really 206 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: what you're going to feel is where that wood is 207 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: just laying on that piece of wood, that frame and 208 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: that window. Just as it blows into the attic, it's 209 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: going to get into the hallway, going to get into 210 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: the closet, going to get into the bedroom wherever that is. 211 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: And you can weather strip that. And what you can 212 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: do is on that door and where it sits on 213 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: that rail, you can just get a little piece of 214 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: foam weather stripping. It doesn't have to be that thick. 215 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: I mean literally a quarter of an inch thick. It's 216 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 1: got tape on the back, and put it on that 217 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: wood piece, that plywood that lays down in that track, 218 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: and that'll help seal it. But then go, let's go 219 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: to the next step. All right, so we got that sealed, 220 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 1: then get a piece of plexiglass, same weather stripping all 221 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: the way around that and you're going to take two 222 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: screws and you're gonna screw it right up on that frame. 223 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: So now we've created a dead air space. It's you know, 224 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: kind of kind of air tight. I mean, it's not 225 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: going to be blowing in. It's not a big insulator, 226 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:14,359 Speaker 1: but you're going to eliminate that draft and very very effective. 227 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,839 Speaker 1: So I recommend you do that if you have an 228 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: access board into your attic and get that sealed up. 229 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: Another things we've talked about in the past, and again 230 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: when it's real windy, you can even you can actually 231 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: in double hung windows, you can hear the windows litter, 232 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: you can hear the windows rattling, and you can calk 233 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:44,239 Speaker 1: windows close on the sides, and where the double hungs meet, 234 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: you can use a calking It's called peel away and 235 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: that peel away calking is clear and you can literally 236 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: cock it clothes and come march when you want to 237 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: open your windows, cawking will simply peel away. If you 238 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: don't want to use a calking tube and use that, 239 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: there's an old, old product's been around for years called 240 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: more Tight. More type is like a clay type gray 241 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: roping and it comes in geez, I'm gonna say three sixteenths. 242 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: But you could use three pieces of that, five pieces 243 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: of that, one piece of that, and just peel that 244 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: off and run it right where the window is meet. 245 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: If the weather stripping's batter, it's an old double hung 246 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: window and I'll tell you what. That'll stop so much 247 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: air infiltration. And at that point you can use those 248 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: plastic storm window kits. It does a real good job 249 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: of creating a dead air space. Also, so if you 250 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: have those issues that I just discussed, those are good 251 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: remedies to minimize the draft you're going to have. All right, 252 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: we'll continue. We're going to have Beth join us from 253 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: Cincinni Preservation and talk about their mission and what they're 254 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: doing for the old homes in our city and tri 255 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: state area. That's next as we continue. You're at Home 256 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: with Gary Sullivan on fifty five. Care see the talk station. 257 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: All right, back at it we go at Home with 258 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: Gary Salvin twelve thirty five. It is and A has 259 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: promised we'd have Beth Johnson. She is the executive director 260 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: of Cincinnati Preservation. And Beth welcome for the first time 261 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: Nat Home with Gary Salvin. How you doing good? 262 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having me. 263 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: You're quite welcome. Of course, for thirty nine years we've 264 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: sat here and talked about homes. We've talked about running 265 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: toilets and patching walls and doing all kinds of stuff 266 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: around the home. And you are the executive director of 267 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Preservation, which has a lot to do with homes. 268 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: Can you kind of tell us a little bit about 269 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Preservation. 270 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, we have a lot to do with old homes. 271 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 4: So Cincinnati Preservation is the Greater Cincinnati is nonprofit that's 272 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 4: focused and recognized as the resource and champion for the 273 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 4: historic preservation, reuse of old buildings, and basically celebration and 274 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 4: acknowledgment of the importance of our historic and cultural resources. 275 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 1: There's there's boy, you just said a lot. Yeah, and 276 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: I remember when we chatted this past week, you said 277 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: we're we're an education resource. So let's just start there, 278 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: because I guess I am an education resource also, And 279 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: I know you're going to be able to tell me 280 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: a lot more than I know because we get we 281 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: have you know, we do a national show for the 282 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 1: first three hours on Saturday, and we get a lot 283 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: of calls from even New England where there's a lot 284 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,719 Speaker 1: of homes and we have a lot of older homes. 285 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: I know. Northern Kentucky. Now you do Northern Kentucky too, correct, 286 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: we do? 287 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, So we are the Greater Cincinnati region, So we're 288 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 4: basically Hamilton County and then all of the counties in Ohio, 289 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 4: northern Kentucky and a little bit of Indiana Hamilton County. 290 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: Now there's also historic designations. Tell me how you educate 291 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: people on what historic designations? And I mean there's different 292 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: ways you have to do things. Do you help people 293 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: with them? 294 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 2: Yes? 295 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: Okay, yes you do. 296 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. So there's basically two different types of designations. There's 297 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 4: one that's called the National Register, which is through the 298 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 4: federal government, and that's basically kind of a good bill 299 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 4: thumbs up, Yay, you're historic and you should be preserved. 300 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 4: But then there's also local designation and that's where you 301 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 4: get into what you can and cannot do with the 302 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 4: basically the look and aesthetics of the exterior of your 303 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 4: property only. And so so there's local preservation offices in 304 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 4: a lot of our cities that you go through and 305 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 4: you basically get a permit, a special permit to make 306 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 4: changes to your house. And we recognize that there are 307 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 4: you know, there's special materials often with the store home 308 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 4: or materials that maybe people aren't quite used to working 309 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 4: with anymore. And so that's where we really come in 310 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 4: to help provide education on how you treat those materials 311 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 4: or if you need to replace it where you can 312 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 4: find them excellent. 313 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: So so how do you educate people about that? Do 314 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: they come to you, do you have seminars or how 315 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: does that education process work? 316 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 4: A little bit of all of it. So definitely people 317 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 4: come to us so that we are, you know, have 318 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 4: people can feel free to call us or email us 319 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 4: if they have questions. We call that technical preservation questions, 320 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 4: and that's really we have a preservation director who will 321 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 4: help walking through those. We have a lot of information 322 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:48,959 Speaker 4: on our website. We have a whole section of our 323 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 4: website called Preservation one oh one. It is a great 324 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 4: resource for people, has a lot of disinformation about how 325 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,959 Speaker 4: you treat windows and wood and things like that. But 326 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 4: then we also, for for almost thirteen years, I think 327 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 4: we might be going on fourteen years, have been collaborating 328 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 4: with a group of people in Northern Kentucky made up 329 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 4: of most of the local preservation offices there, where we 330 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 4: do a weekend. It's basically a day long event called 331 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 4: Northern Kentucky Restoration Weekend where we have classes on all 332 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 4: of this stuff. So we have a window restoration guy, 333 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 4: usually a plaster guy, someone that comes talks about warnar, 334 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 4: We talk about paint colors, architectural styles, routine. So really 335 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 4: anything that has to do with a historic house we 336 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 4: usually will try and cover it there. 337 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: Well, I've got to get some of those guys on, 338 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: don't I. 339 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we have a freat list of tradesmen. 340 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Well we'll get together on that later and 341 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: I might use you. You've already educated me so we 342 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: can steal all some of them and they use their expertise. 343 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: And I think this is so vitally important, especially in 344 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: this area, get a good arc texture, I know, you 345 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 1: know in the Newport and Covington area of course in Cincinnati, 346 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 1: and do you go in the Indiana at all. 347 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 4: I'm a little bit so south East Indiana. Okay, it's 348 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 4: part of our coverage as well. 349 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we got these kind of just ornate and 350 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: beautiful architecture. And the last thing you want is somebody 351 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: to go in and buy it and start putting in, 352 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: you know, some cheap looking replacement windows and vinyl sighting. 353 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: I mean that'd be I mortal sin. 354 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, now it and it really does. It will 355 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 4: dramatically change the look of a house. And and a 356 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 4: lot of these houses also were We're built in such 357 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 4: a way that like the standard vinyl window won't even 358 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 4: sit in there, so then you have to pour down 359 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 4: the window, and that just it just doesn't provide a 360 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 4: good book. And also our there's another preservations here that 361 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 4: thanklessly would always say the windows are called replacement for 362 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 4: a reason. They always have to be replaced. Whereas wood windows, 363 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 4: you can, you know, you can rehab wood windows. Every 364 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 4: single part of that window was meant was meant to 365 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 4: be able to be replaced if needed. And so if 366 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 4: you have good working wood windows, there's ways to make 367 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 4: them just as energy efficient, is not better than any 368 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 4: of the vinal windows on the market, and we talk 369 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 4: a lot about that and show people how they can 370 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 4: do that as well. 371 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I even remember it's probably twenty five thirty years ago. 372 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: I know Barbin windows came out with a wood insert 373 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 1: to fit inside a window. I mean, you couldn't tell 374 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 1: it wasn't an original window it was. It was outstanding. 375 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: And I imagine many companies, wood window companies they have 376 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: a catalog of some historic looks or no they do. 377 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they've come a long way. So Marvin was 378 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 4: definitely at the forefront that they were actually worked with 379 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 4: the National Trust for Historic Preservation in the National Park 380 00:22:56,160 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 4: Service on that first window to make sure it's that 381 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 4: fit the stecks that were needed. But pretty much all 382 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 4: the major window manufacturers out there now create wood, aluminal 383 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 4: clad wood, or another popular thing that's been coming is fiberglass, 384 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 4: and that they're able to mold fiberglass and it's just 385 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 4: much stronger than vinyl, so it's able to make some 386 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 4: of those bigger sashes, that viny whole replacement windows just camped. 387 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: Sure, Sure, that's got to be a fun job you have, 388 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: it is. 389 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 4: I'm pretty I'm pretty lucky. 390 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: I'm pretty lucky. 391 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 4: I've got I've been in the been in the preservation 392 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 4: work in Cincinnati region going on eighteen years now, and 393 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 4: with Cincinnati Preservation about three and a half. But all 394 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 4: of those jobs have let me go into some amazing 395 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 4: magical places. I've been able to go up into the 396 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 4: attict of Music Hall behind a big Rose window. I've 397 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 4: got the roof of Union terminal. 398 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 2: People. 399 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 4: And the greatest part of this job is people are 400 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 4: so proud of their homes and their buildings, but they 401 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 4: always want to show them off. And so just even 402 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 4: last week, I got to go on a tour of 403 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 4: the Goshorn House, which is this amazing beautiful mansion up 404 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 4: in Clifton that's actually now on the market, and the 405 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 4: owners just wanted to show us all the work that 406 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 4: he did do it and it was phenomenal, and it's 407 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 4: just like, yeah, it's like I got to go into 408 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 4: pretty cool places. 409 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. There was a guest I had, Young 410 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 1: Gal graduated from XU. She was in her twenties, was 411 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: you know, got married and they bought an old home 412 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: in the over the run and I can't tell you where, 413 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: I've never seen it. And I'm going like, do you 414 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: do you guys know what you're doing, and she goes like, 415 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: we know it's going to be a lot of work, 416 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: but we're just so excited about taking this, you know, 417 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: not dilapidated, but in a state of disrepair, and you know, 418 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: talking just some of the things that they were her 419 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: and her husband were doing and friends were helping. It 420 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,959 Speaker 1: was fascinating to me. I mean, it was fascinating and 421 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,199 Speaker 1: I always wonder, because I haven't really talked to her 422 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: kind of lost tract evers, did they get it done? 423 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 1: And somebody told me when I was telling that story, 424 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: they said, you never get it done. 425 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 4: Now. There's always something to do to do. Even once 426 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 4: you've finished something, it's probably time to time to update 427 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 4: or replace or share something, maintenance, all that sort of stuff. 428 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 4: So it's the constant cycle. But I love it. I 429 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 4: take it. Your listeners probably love it as well. There's 430 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 4: just something wonderful about being able to put your own 431 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 4: blood button tears into your home. 432 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: Even things like you know, there's a lot of stone 433 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: and a lot of different mortars and different things, which 434 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: is all different than what we use today. So much 435 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: of it was used whatever the materials were on site 436 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: or in that region, and then keeping them clean. You know, 437 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 1: you've been through a lot of air pollution when there 438 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: wasn't regulations on that, and even just cleaning them properly 439 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: without something that's too aggressive. I guess that there's a 440 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: whole education in that. 441 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 4: There is. And the great thing is that technology is 442 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 4: constantly evolving. So we always say, you know, you want 443 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 4: to start with the least invasive, the gentlest means possible, 444 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 4: and then you build up. And so obviously sand blasting 445 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 4: to us is just as we said earlier as I 446 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 4: mortal fin like that will just completely damage your brick 447 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 4: and stone. But they're actually coming out with new technologies. 448 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 4: They've been experimenting with lasers and how lasers can clean 449 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 4: zone and do it safely without ruining it. So it's 450 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 4: neat because the technology is still advancing. But also the 451 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 4: great thing though with some of the historic materials, you know, 452 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 4: the historic mortar, you can still make historic mortar. You 453 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 4: might not maybe maybe be able to get the horse 454 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 4: hair that they might put in that fiscally and plaster, 455 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 4: but you can still you know, they still make the 456 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 4: basic ingredients and so there's still line and other stuff 457 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 4: that you can, right that is used to be able 458 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 4: to make mortar, and so it's not impossible, right to 459 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 4: be able to preserve the to preserve these materials, right. 460 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, Boy, it just goes really on and on, and so, yes, 461 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: I got a thousand questions going through my head, but 462 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 1: I was just thinking we'd One of the sponsors of 463 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: our show is a company called Dumont Global and they 464 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: have they had a product probably in the eighties. They 465 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: still have it. It's called peel Away and was removing 466 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: paint off of you know, lead paint off walls. And 467 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 1: I remember I met the founder and he was fascinating. 468 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: He was like using it in Europe removing thirty five 469 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: layers of paint. And I guess I was just kind 470 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: of say, I would assume that you're familiar with that product, 471 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: and it's probably used in some of those restorations because 472 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: it just pulls it off, it's not corrosive. 473 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 4: I'm very, very familiar with Tilloy and I've actually used 474 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 4: it myself on windows because a great thing about steal 475 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 4: Away is that you can easily get it into like 476 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 4: it will take the shape of the window profile, so 477 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 4: it's really easy then to get it in there, and 478 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 4: so it actually cuts down on the scraping and then 479 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 4: potential damage to wood if you accidentally, you know, gave 480 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 4: it a creeper to put a groove or something. And 481 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 4: so it's you know, it's a great resource and we 482 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 4: still love it. 483 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: Sure Sure do you ever And this may be a 484 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: silly question, we'll take a break and we'll kind of 485 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: wrap things up. I know you got a fundraiser going 486 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: on and I want to get that information out. Do 487 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: you ever have tours of homes? You know, like a 488 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: cavalcade of preserved homes that people want to open their 489 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: doors to. 490 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 4: Now and then we'll do kind of one off one. 491 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 4: But what we really love to do is really support 492 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 4: our neighborhoods because there's a lot of neighborhoods around here 493 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 4: that put on house tours. So like Clifton does a 494 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 4: big one. I know Westwood has done one for several 495 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 4: several times, east Row down in Newport and like coming 496 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 4: to neighborhoods and so rather than trying to replicate what 497 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 4: they're doing, because a lot of these nass that's a 498 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 4: big fundraiser for them. Sure, we sure will go and 499 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 4: support them. So we'll do like calls of volunteers and 500 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 4: just help support them, to help them fulfill their mission 501 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 4: and to highlight their homes. 502 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just saying for the general public to 503 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: get to view some of these what a great idea. 504 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: And if there's that many tours out there, let's we'll 505 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: get that word out. I think that's wonderful. That's wonderful. 506 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: All right, let's take a little break bit and when 507 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: we come back, we'll talk about the fundraiser and kind 508 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: of wrap things up because we always quickly run out 509 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: of time. Beth Johnson, she is the executive director Cincinni Preservation, 510 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: and we'll take a little break here at home with 511 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: Garry Salvin right here in fifty five care see the 512 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: talk station. Well, our wonderful guest, Beth Johnson, the executive 513 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: director of Cincinnati Preservation, is my guest today, and we're 514 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: just talking about just talking about the preservation of historic housing. 515 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: A couple of real quick questions. You also do work 516 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: where there isn't a house we got. 517 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, we say that we can we do above above 518 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 4: amvelo ground preservation and so we you know, we recognize 519 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 4: that archaeological resources or even when buildings have been torn down, 520 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 4: still have stories to tell, and so we want to 521 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 4: make sure that, especially with archaeological resources and with southwest 522 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 4: Ohio and northern Kentucky having a lot of native mounds, 523 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 4: that we want to make sure that those are respected 524 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 4: well and taking care of properly. And then when buildings, 525 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 4: you know, unfortunately, some buildings obviously do have to be demolished, 526 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 4: but there's still stories of the people and of the 527 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 4: holding that can be told, and we want to make 528 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 4: sure that we still are able to tell those as well. 529 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: When people buy these types of homes, are they usually 530 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: renovated by pros or is a lot of a DIY work. 531 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 4: I think it's a bit of both. So I think 532 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 4: it really depends on kind of where you where you are, 533 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 4: I know, you know, and over their ie we've definitely 534 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 4: had both. We've had professionals and we've had a lot 535 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 4: of di wires. Obviously there's challenges with with di I wires, 536 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 4: and you know, just basically the knowledge base and making 537 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 4: sure that they have the knowledge base and there's you know, 538 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 4: a couple of things obviously electric and plumbing, h fact, 539 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 4: things that that needs licenses and permits that we always 540 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 4: encourage people to look for the professionals. But you know 541 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 4: a lot of the stuff like you know, painting and 542 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 4: maybe basic carpentry and stuff like that, you know, take 543 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 4: take a hand at it, and if you can't do it, 544 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 4: then then you can always bring in a professional. 545 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: That's what I'm always talking about. Anybody body can paint, 546 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: especially with today's quality of pains. Quite honestly, they're wonderful. Yeah, 547 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: but nobody should be ripping out knob and tube and 548 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: rewiring unless they're an electrician exactly. All right. So so 549 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: you're dispensing all this knowledge, you sound like you have 550 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: a wonderful, wonderful program. How's it funded? 551 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 4: So we most of it's funded through we are a 552 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 4: membership based organization for membership, and then we have our 553 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 4: end of the year fund drive where a good portion 554 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 4: of our yearly budget and revenue comes from. And so 555 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 4: it's you know a common thing for nonprofits that we 556 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 4: fund raise. But we're currently in the midst of what 557 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 4: we're calling our Guiding Star fund drive, where people can 558 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 4: can donate to us so we can continue this work 559 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 4: throughout the region. 560 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: How do they donate? They can go. 561 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 4: Online on for our website and it's the first thing 562 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 4: that pops up is would you like to be part 563 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 4: of it? Would you like to be a guiding Star? 564 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 4: And so people can click on that and can donate 565 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 4: to us. They can also send us checks if they'd 566 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 4: rather do that. I know some people still don't like 567 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 4: internet donating things on the internet, but we also people 568 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 4: can send us checks to our our address at eight 569 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 4: twelve Dayton Street, Cincinnati, Ohio for five two one four. 570 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: Right amongst a lot of historic buildings. 571 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, we're located in the John House House, which 572 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 4: is a historic house. 573 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, exactly. Any volunteers needed in your organization. 574 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 4: Always, we always love having people volunteers. So we you know, 575 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 4: we have quite a few events throughout the year, and 576 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 4: so it's always great to have extra hands for that. 577 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 4: And then also we have a bunch of different committees 578 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 4: that do that do various work, and so people want 579 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 4: to get even more involved and want to really lend 580 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 4: their their knowledge or talent that way, we have we 581 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 4: have that as well, or if people just want to 582 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 4: come in and help us with things to envelopes and 583 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 4: stuff the letters that we can always have that as well, 584 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 4: and so people can find out about how to volunteer 585 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:08,919 Speaker 4: with us as well on our website. 586 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: Okay, and the website again. 587 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 4: Is www dot Cincinnatipreservation dot org dot org. 588 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: All right, Beth, thanks so much for giving up your 589 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 1: Saturday or part of it on this weekend, and it's 590 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: been fun. I am going to touch base with you. 591 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: I want to get a couple of your resources if 592 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: you don't mind so well, probably chat with you this week. 593 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: But thanks for thanks for joining us today and thanks 594 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: for your knowledge, appreciate it, thanks for the work you. 595 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 4: Do, so thank you, and thank you so much for 596 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 4: having me. 597 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,760 Speaker 1: All right, Beth, thank you, bye bye. All right, Beth Johnson, 598 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: since INI preservation and interesting. I bet we scratch the surface. 599 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: I know, literally there's a lot more to learn about 600 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: this organization. And you know, we have guessed on to 601 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 1: do basically the same kind of work that she's doing 602 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: to educate you. Not all of us can go do 603 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 1: all the you know, redoing or rehabbing of these homes, 604 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,359 Speaker 1: but the knowledge to do some of it. We talked 605 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: today about an old handrail, put a hair handrail and 606 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: an old plaster wall, and how to do it those 607 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 1: you know, maybe not preservation, but it's older homes, older materials, 608 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:40,720 Speaker 1: different types of ways to accomplish that. And so maybe 609 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: I can get a couple of her resources on during 610 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 1: our regular shows weekend and week out. But I hope 611 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: you enjoyed the conversation. We will have that podcast available 612 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 1: maybe for your friends. If you know somebody that's into 613 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: that kind of work or into that kind of history, 614 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: you could pass that along term. I'd certainly appreciate it. 615 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,320 Speaker 1: You can find it on the iHeart app A little 616 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 1: magnifying glass just put in at Home with Gary Sullivan, So, 617 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: Beth Johnson, we certainly appreciate your time today. All right, 618 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 1: Danny boy, another weekend, well not another weekend, but a 619 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: half of a weekend is in the bay. Another Saturday. Yeah, 620 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: thank you so much for your efforts today. Yes, it 621 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 1: was kind of slow in the beginning with it, but 622 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: then everybody woke up, got the turkey hangover over, ready 623 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,800 Speaker 1: to go. That's what I say. All right, good Lord Willing. 624 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: We'll be back tomorrow for more At Home with Gary Sullivan.