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Speaker 1: These Steelers are always in chaos. The Steelers are zero fun.

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Speaker 1: The latest ignition thereof came from Joey Porter Senior. He

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Speaker 1: was on Cam Hayward's podcast and he called Ben Roethlisberger

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Speaker 1: a bad teammate and a bad person. He blamed Ben

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Speaker 1: for breaking the brotherhood for talking about Steeler business, and

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Speaker 1: he basically accused Ben of rape dating back to Tahoue

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Speaker 1: in Milledgeville. It's just crazy. Let's listen to what Joey

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Speaker 1: Porter said again. This is on Cam Hayward's podcast.

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Speaker 2: The seven dude that did that, we don't talk about

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Speaker 2: it now is crazy, Like anybody should talk. He should

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Speaker 2: never grab a microphone and really talk Steller business because

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Speaker 2: if we talk and Stealer business, his asses file all foul.

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Speaker 3: Like that he's dead, is foul of all foul. He's

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Speaker 3: not a good teammate.

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Speaker 4: Won super Bowl?

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Speaker 3: Would he?

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Speaker 2: But the person he's just not a good teammate, Like

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Speaker 2: he knows that. Anybody in the Stealer building knows that.

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Speaker 2: But we protected him because I've only won one super

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Speaker 2: Bowl and that was my quarterback. So do I love

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Speaker 3: Yeah? But is he a good person?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 1: That's Joey Porter Senior on Cam's podcast. Diana Russini, the

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Speaker 1: football journalist, is sitting there, mouth dotless and gape after

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Speaker 1: what she heard what Porter said. That's obviously insanely stiff.

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Speaker 1: He's saying the Steelers covered up Ben's off the field indiscretions.

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Speaker 1: And Porter just buries Ben as a person. What because

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Speaker 1: Ben criticizes these Steelers and some of their decisions, you

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Speaker 1: go scorts to earth on Ben Peron because of that,

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Speaker 1: f Joey Porter, Paz, your kid's is steeling, He's good.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to have your tongue up arts back side.

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Speaker 1: Porter is way out of line here. He's creating more

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Speaker 1: disruption than he's accusing Ben of doing. And it's pretty

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Speaker 1: obvious he never liked Ben and this was his chance

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Speaker 1: to go off and Porter was pretty much begging the

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Speaker 1: Steelers for job just the other day. Why didn't Porter

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Speaker 1: his podcast and Warshet finageled his way out of Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: to go to New England back when sounds like that

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Speaker 1: might be a black thing. And this is real bad

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Speaker 1: for Ben because it gets all that crap out there again.

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Speaker 1: I see Millercheville and Tahoe mentioned in every story about

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Speaker 1: what Joey Porter Senior said, and I wonder if Ben's

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Speaker 1: going to fire back on his potet. Don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 1: Ben's real petty, but I hope he sees the wisdom

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Speaker 1: of just letting this go and trying to limit the

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Speaker 1: news cycle.

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Speaker 3: And then you got Cam Hayward. It's his podcast and.

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Speaker 1: He's sitting there like a big dummy letting Porter say crap.

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Speaker 1: He knows ain't good, that no good comes from it,

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Speaker 1: and yet Cam put it out there, which I think

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Speaker 1: tells us how he feels about Ben. None of this

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Speaker 1: is directly traceable to the current Steelers, but it's about

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Speaker 1: the Steelers. The Steelers are no fun. It's always something

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Speaker 1: stupid like this. This is the Mark Madden show. This

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Speaker 1: news just breaking as well. Turning point USA has announced

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Speaker 1: in all American Olympics with Kid Rock competing in every event.

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Speaker 1: You can follow the show, follow me well, it's the show.

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Speaker 1: Same thing at Mark Madden on Twitter. Let's talk to

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Speaker 1: Tommy Radio. Tom you heard the SoundBite. It's not so

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Speaker 1: Porter talks about breaking the brotherhood, but Porter murdered the

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Speaker 1: friggin brotherhood.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, first of all, it's just extremely hypocritical by Joey

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Speaker 6: Porter Senior. Everything that he is accusing Ben Roethlisberger of

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Speaker 6: he is doing in that SoundBite on that podcast with

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Speaker 1: Not the stuff he's eluding the Steelers covered up for.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, he's causing more disruption than Ben. He's ignoring

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Speaker 1: Harrison causing disruption. And Porter got in all kinds of

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Speaker 6: And furthermore, it went to a very very personal level

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Speaker 6: with Porter over something that was really just strictly business

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Speaker 6: with Ben. Like Mark, we play those sound bites all

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Speaker 6: the time on this show. I'm listening to that podcast

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Speaker 6: like a hawk for them. He never gets that personal, does.

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Speaker 3: He's just talking. Yes, it's always football, per the name

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and guess what, it's at a negative slant most

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Speaker 6: of the time because the Steelers have had some negative.

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Speaker 4: Football happened, you know what.

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Speaker 1: I try hard to like Pas, but it's tough because

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Speaker 1: he's a douchebag, and for a while he won the

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Speaker 3: Maybe Ben convention that on his podcast.

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Speaker 1: In fact, Ben, if you're listening, I will come on

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Speaker 3: I mean, who the frig does Joey Porter think he is?

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Speaker 6: And look, Mark, this got glossed over and he was

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Speaker 6: actually made into being a hero because of Pittsburgh and

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Speaker 6: they won the football game. What he did against the

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Speaker 6: Bengals in that playoffs, that's inexcusable. Coaches can't go on

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Speaker 6: the field and start, you know, getting in the face

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Speaker 6: of pac Man Jones like he suited up as well,

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Speaker 3: Is the hero because pac Man got penalized.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt about it, no one.

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Speaker 6: And you know, people don't say that that's a bad

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Speaker 6: thing that Joey Porter Junior did or Joey Porter Senior.

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Speaker 6: Excuse me, because Steelers won the game pac Man, and

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Speaker 6: I'm sure Junior ain't crazy about this. Oh how could

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Speaker 6: he be? I mean, you want to talk about creating

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Speaker 6: turbulence immediately with a new coaching staff, like that's the thing,

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Speaker 6: Like Michael Crothy's probably not Buddy By.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't give a frig about anybody but himself.

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Speaker 1: Clearly's clearly in this case at the expense of his kid.

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Speaker 4: Very clearly that's the case.

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Speaker 6: Yes, And the Cam Hayward part of it too is

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Speaker 1: For he sat there like a dummy okay something and

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Speaker 4: That's the part. It went even further than that.

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Speaker 6: It's not even that he didn't say anything in the

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Speaker 6: moment like let's stop that, Joey, We're not gonna go

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Speaker 3: Don't you think that reflects how he feels about Ben.

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Speaker 6: Too, And the fact that he put it out in

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Speaker 6: really think about it, let it stew. Do I really

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Speaker 6: then you said, yeah, hit play, put it out there.

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Speaker 3: We say stupid crap on this show all the time.

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Speaker 3: But it's too late.

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Speaker 1: It's out there the minute we say live baby, unless

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Speaker 1: real bad for Ben. Every story I've read today media

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Speaker 6: That's why the strategy, as much as I'm sure Ben has,

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Speaker 1: Porter said the Steelers covered up. I wonder how Art

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Speaker 4: Not good?

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Speaker 6: And I wonder if I really am curious about what

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Speaker 4: We said that he doesn't do it.

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Speaker 1: Joey Porter's an attention whore and he hadn't been paid

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Speaker 6: Did Art pay him the respect to to maybe even

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Speaker 6: motivated just say, I'm trying to figure out why Joey

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Speaker 3: Well, he did a great disservice to his kid.

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Speaker 1: Here, absolutely, you know, he's the father of a current

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Speaker 4: And you know what else he did?

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Speaker 1: Might I say to the Steelers did anything but cover

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Speaker 1: up with Ben Beck? What? In fact, I know that

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Speaker 1: Dan Rooney insisted the NFL suspended Ben he wanted been

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Speaker 1: So in terms of covering up, it was quite the opposite.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, it's just revisionist history on behalf of pas.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that is just a terrible disservice by Porter to

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Speaker 1: revers but is now cast the logo once again into turmoil.

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Speaker 1: I agree. I hope Ben doesn't fire back. I hope

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Speaker 1: he's smart enough to just minimize his response. But honestly,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. And why didn't Porter take a shot

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Speaker 1: at Harrison, who's been more critical of the Steelers than Ben.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you why.

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Speaker 1: I think it is a black thing, and I think

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Speaker 1: he's scared to death of Harrison, like they all are.

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Speaker 4: I think it's both of those things.

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Speaker 6: And Harrison, if we want to take it from you

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Speaker 6: know why PS said he did this because Ben's getting

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Speaker 6: personal and he's airing out the brotherhood. Harrison does that

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Speaker 6: Ben doesn't even do that. Really, Harrison has downright said

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Speaker 6: Mike Tomlin's not going to be in the Hall of

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Speaker 3: Yes, Ben very clinically talks.

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Speaker 4: Football exactly, That's what the podcast.

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Speaker 3: A good person.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes he's anolytical, he's a little passive aggression happens is

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Speaker 1: the is the king of passive aggressive. Yeah, he slips

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Speaker 1: into that every now and then, but he's always good

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Speaker 4: I didn't mean that.

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Speaker 6: But it's never to the level that Porter went. This

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Speaker 1: You know what this proves after the fact tom Win

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Speaker 1: never had control of these guys, they're still running amuck.

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Speaker 1: This this what Porter said, It is indicative of the

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Speaker 3: Let's can we play that again?

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Speaker 1: Let's let's this is just so full of venom if

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Speaker 2: The seven dude that did that we don't talk about

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Speaker 2: fiule of all foul. Like that he's dead is foul

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Speaker 3: Yeah? But is he a good person?

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Speaker 1: No? Like I said, this is really bad for Ben

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Speaker 3: We're gonna get calls like that.

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Speaker 3: The Steelers covered up.

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Speaker 4: That's why everything has to be that.

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Speaker 6: You have to bring it up when you talk about

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Speaker 6: By airing out locker room dirty lundry, not even locker

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Speaker 6: No, I think that they'll let this news cycle just

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Speaker 1: Not, I can't decide what I think he's gonna do

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Speaker 4: I don't know if he'll unload both barrels.

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Speaker 6: I think my gut is gonna say he's gonna have

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Speaker 1: So he's very upset that the news cycle got started again.

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Speaker 6: The barrels are being unloaded, there's no question about that.

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Speaker 3: Well, ain't nobody brought this stuff up literally for years?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: As you mentioned earlier, Tom very preciently this could sabotage

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Speaker 6: And on that same day this breaks. So, I mean,

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Speaker 4: I think.

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Speaker 1: Remember when Adrian Peterson beat his kid with a switch, right,

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Speaker 4: Exactly.

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Speaker 3: Football's fed up.

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Speaker 4: We should bring that up. Let's get that in the

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Speaker 1: Right, Let's combat Ben's problem is by saying that, hey, Peterson,

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Speaker 4: Ain't what about as in America these days?

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Speaker 3: Tom, did you watch any of the game this morning?

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Speaker 3: Good hockey.

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Speaker 1: Ask Slovakia one thing I spotted about them, like about

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Speaker 6: Well, you've referenced several times that for the Europeans this

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Speaker 6: But like Lafia can give you some problems, got goaltending,

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Speaker 3: We's been a second in each of the last two

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Speaker 6: Germany's not great, but like Drysdle is going to be

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Speaker 1: Oh, Tom, it's just didn't you know who was a

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Speaker 1: late addition to the Italian roster And so Garlami am

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Speaker 1: I pronounced there right, Garlami, Gorlami, Gorlami perfect, Garlami.

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 1: This Ben thing through the psy and Ben thing through

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Speaker 1: today's show for Loop. Tom I wrote a column today

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Speaker 1: about the state of basketball in Pittsburgh, referencing the Pittsburgh Condors.

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Speaker 3: Because Doctor J.

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Speaker 1: There's an ABA documentary coming out, not like Semi Pro,

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Speaker 1: which was Will Ferrell movie, which was pretty close to

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Speaker 1: and Doctor J got interviewed by mad Dog Joyce Irving.

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Speaker 3: And I loved Doctor J as a kid.

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Speaker 1: He was Michael Jordan before there was Jordan, the first

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Speaker 1: aerial vertical NBA superstar guy invented the dunk contest. So

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to see the documentary. But the ABA

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Speaker 1: Like there were jokes in there that really.

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Speaker 4: Happened, Yeah, like fighting happening on the courts.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 4: Semi Pro is one of the greatest movies of all time.

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Speaker 6: I might watch that documentary about the ABA, because I've

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Speaker 6: seen the movie semiproh and.

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Speaker 3: The stories will tell.

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Speaker 1: There was a guy, Arvin bad News Barnes, the nicknames yeah,

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Speaker 1: Mark Marvin Barnes. He was boarding a flight and it

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Speaker 1: he refused to board.

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Speaker 3: He said, I ain't getting in no damn time machine.

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Speaker 4: It was the time machine. He was time traveling. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: so so, but I could see that in semipro But.

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Speaker 1: That brings us to the current state of basketball here,

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Speaker 1: namely Pitt getting killed by Duke. Lass that although Pitt

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Speaker 6: They were just like bombing threes, that was their strategy,

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Speaker 3: The Pete it was like two thousand shive of a

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Well, Heather like f things up. She hired the wrong coaches.

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Speaker 1: She emphasized the wrong sports. She made Pitt is a

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Speaker 3: It's small sports school.

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Speaker 6: And what you remembered last night, since it was just

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Speaker 6: That place gets so freaking loud, the Peterson Event Center.

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Speaker 6: There's a reason why teams could never come into p

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Speaker 6: good acoustics. Oh my god, it's unbelievable. It just bounces

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Speaker 1: I still well, I'm gonna talk about all this at length,

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Speaker 1: probably tomorrow, because like I said, the PS sound bite

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Speaker 1: This is the Steelers thing, and the Steelers just aren't

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Speaker 4: It absolutely is.

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Speaker 6: And even if you're trying to, you might not like

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Speaker 3: I enjoy this.

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Speaker 1: I can't emphasize enough how stupid Cam Hayward is. What

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Speaker 1: a stupid m effort to let that on his podcast

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Speaker 1: when Ben was his teammate, when it's gonna cause problems,

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Speaker 1: when PS's kids still on the team. For Cam to

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Speaker 1: let that on the podcast not.

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Speaker 3: Edit it out is just stupid. He's stupid.

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Speaker 1: Cam's stupid, he's selfish, he's stupid, he's a whiner. He

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Speaker 1: should quit, and why does he need a podcast anyway?

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Speaker 6: Should have absolutely pushed back in the moment, should have

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Speaker 6: just had that prescient moment of clarity where he was like,

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Speaker 6: this is not what we're talking about on this podcasts.

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Speaker 3: He scared a pis there's a pecking order.

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Speaker 6: And then to just leave it in, to not cut

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Speaker 6: it out, to let it go through the edit.

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Speaker 1: I've never seen a guy go from revered to jerk

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Speaker 1: off like Cam Hayward, at least in my estimation.

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Speaker 3: One five ninety X.

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Speaker 7: It's The Woody Show weekday mornings at six one five

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Speaker 7: ninety X.

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Speaker 6: Visit the Ross University and earn a one thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: We're we're glancing at the Olympics here in the studio,

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Speaker 1: figure skating's on, Snoop Dogg is all over the Olympics.

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Speaker 3: Uh, there's a.

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Speaker 1: Crack dealer as a you got tried for complicity in

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Speaker 1: a murder and now he's the face of pretty much

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Speaker 1: everything American.

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Speaker 3: And he's very talented.

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Speaker 1: I think he's a much better actor than I thought

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Speaker 1: he would have been, but only in America. I wonder

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Speaker 1: returning point USA thanks to that, Tom, I want to

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Speaker 1: get Simbucco talk in the GM Ben Sherrington. He said

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Speaker 1: the Pirates will never completely shut the door and Andrew McCutcheon,

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Speaker 1: but focuses on the players who are at training camp. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so where is that leave McCutcheon if if the the

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Speaker 1: door ain't shut, I don't think it's wide enough for

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Speaker 1: him to fit through.

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Speaker 4: It's basically shut. And Sherrington's got to say that.

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Speaker 6: I mean, he's not he's gonna take the high road

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Speaker 6: if mccutchen's not going to he's gonna not bury former

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Speaker 6: MVP for this franchise and say mccutchen's washed up and done.

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Speaker 6: He should turn the page because we are so. I

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Speaker 6: understand him saying that, but I, for the.

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Speaker 1: First it wouldn't be unfair for Sharington to say he

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Speaker 1: should turn the page because we are well.

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Speaker 4: It wouldn't be.

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Speaker 6: But for the first time, I'm actually hoping that this

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Speaker 6: is BS from Ben Charrington, and all he does is

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Speaker 6: say BS. So I think it is that this door

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Speaker 6: is probably shut.

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Speaker 3: On the cut, No, I think it's definitely shut.

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Speaker 1: And I think Kutch did himself no favors, as we've

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Speaker 1: discussed by painting himself into a corner with his whining. Now,

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Speaker 1: if he would sign which he won't, but if he did,

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Speaker 1: it looks like he's crawling back and it looks like

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Speaker 1: the Pirates abob To fan desired nostalgia. And it's almost

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Speaker 1: tough for a while to even have an Andrew McCutchen day.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this bridge can be rebuilt, but it's clearly

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Speaker 1: been burnt, no question about it.

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Speaker 6: And he just would have even accepted the role that

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Speaker 6: would have been carved out for him if they did

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Speaker 6: indeed sign him. It would have been for like a

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Speaker 6: million dollars, probably something very you know, token like that,

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Speaker 6: and then it would be like you're playing like thirty games.

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Speaker 6: Maybe you're gonna Riley commercial for with Govie, this is

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Speaker 6: way better than a cutchin Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Where he says if he could take a pill that

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Speaker 1: made parallel parking easy to take it.

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Speaker 3: You know what, I don't even know what Govie does.

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Speaker 3: What's what gov do?

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Speaker 4: I don't know either.

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Speaker 6: Maybe it's like a diet pill or something like that

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Speaker 6: that seems to be very popular in vogue these days,

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Speaker 6: but I'm not sure. You know what I would take

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Speaker 6: a pill for though, Like if I could take a

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Speaker 6: pill and never have to shower, Like if my body

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Speaker 6: was just showered and I was completely clean. I would

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Speaker 6: do that like that's a good topic. Is like every

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Speaker 6: day inconveniences that you could just take a.

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Speaker 1: Pill for maybe well, Ferrell could take a pill that

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Speaker 1: would make him funny again.

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Speaker 4: It's such a shame.

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Speaker 6: And John c Riley, right at the middle of that

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Speaker 6: rift between him and Adam.

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Speaker 1: McKays kelso said, if I could take a pill to

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Speaker 1: make me forget Jackie ever existed, I would, and Hide said, hell,

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Speaker 1: we'd all take that pill. Getting back to Cutch, do

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Speaker 1: you think Cutch would settle for being a six stop

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Speaker 1: fielder in a backup DH, which really would be close

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Speaker 1: to being an extra parogi.

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Speaker 6: No, that's kind of where I was going, is I

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Speaker 6: don't he would say yes to that, and he would

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Speaker 6: sign that. But I think in the back of his

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Speaker 6: head he would think that he's still good enough that

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Speaker 6: he would, you know, earn more playing time, and then

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Speaker 6: when he didn't, he would cause problems. He would be

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Speaker 6: passive aggressive on Twitter. He would say snarky things.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no good to bringing him back except for

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Speaker 1: the ovation when he gets announced an opening day.

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Speaker 6: Okay, but then you just wait and have an Andrew

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Speaker 6: McCutchen day and you'll get that ovation anyway.

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Speaker 3: Like I do, you agree, it's pretty hard to have

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Speaker 3: Andrew mccutchon to do.

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Speaker 6: It this year, can't do the next thing. It's gonna

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Speaker 6: have to have some time go by. And it's so

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Speaker 6: stupid because it's all his doing. The only person that

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Speaker 6: made this a problem was Andrew McCutcheon. For once, the

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Speaker 6: Pirates are actually doing the right thing here and McCutchen

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Speaker 6: is just acting like a huge baby. But I think

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Speaker 6: the fans are on the cutch inside.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think they are to a degree right now,

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Speaker 1: but I think they're so excited about the Pirates, maybe

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Speaker 1: contending that's it on the payin no mind list before

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Speaker 1: spring training's even over. As we put it, yes, he

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Speaker 1: you know, fires off again, and I think if he

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Speaker 1: fires off again during spring training when people want to

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Speaker 1: be optimistic, then he'll turn himself into the bad guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I think, as we said yesterday, you know, the fans

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Speaker 6: can say, oh, poor McCutchen, he deserves to be a pirate,

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Speaker 6: But when you boil it down to okay, fine, he

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Speaker 6: deserves to be a pirate. Ozuna or McCutcheon's your DH

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Speaker 6: next year, you have to choose one, They're almost all

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Speaker 6: gonna pick Azuna.

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Speaker 1: Noah Hiles made a real good point on yesterday's show

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Speaker 1: Tom the DH could have been rotated among players as

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Speaker 1: a ways to rest guys like Low and Reynolds and

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Speaker 1: keep their bat in the lineup but resting them from

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Speaker 1: playing the field. Now the DH is Ozuna period. I

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Speaker 1: still am glad they got Ozuna, but I see Noah's.

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Speaker 4: Point, no question about it.

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Speaker 6: You know, it's so funny to me that we're actually

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Speaker 6: having like real legitimate baseball conversations around here.

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Speaker 1: I think the wisest use of DH if you don't

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Speaker 1: have just a friggin Slagotani, like a guy who could

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Speaker 1: just bang bang bang every day. I think think using

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Speaker 1: it as a rotation among the position players is the

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Speaker 1: smartest thing.

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Speaker 6: To do, absolutely it just it manufactures that day off

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Speaker 6: where you can keep an Oharn in the lineup, where

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Speaker 6: you can keep Allow in the lineup. If Gonzalez is

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Speaker 6: a little hot, maybe you can force him into the

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Speaker 6: lineup a little bit in that Da troll. But Ozuona,

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Speaker 6: I think the bet with him, Mark is that he

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Speaker 6: had the down year last year, twenty one home runs,

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Speaker 6: he gets back to thirty nine to forty home runs

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Speaker 6: this year, Like, that's that's the gamble that they're taking

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Speaker 6: on him. And if that's the case, there's your DH

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Speaker 6: that just is bang, bang bang every day in the

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Speaker 6: lineup right now.

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Speaker 1: If everybody plays fairly near their potential and everybody stays healthy,

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Speaker 1: especially the pitchers, the powers could be five hundred. You

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Speaker 1: get a third basement and even an average left handed starter,

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Speaker 1: it could well be a playoff team or more likely

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Speaker 1: in the race till the very end.

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Speaker 6: The day they got a Ozuna, I said on the show,

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Speaker 6: I think they're around eighty wins right now. Eighty and

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Speaker 6: eighty two. Eighty three wins got you that wildcard for

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Speaker 6: the Cincinnati Reds, the last wildcard in the NL last year.

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Speaker 6: That's a three win difference that I'm talking about there.

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Speaker 6: So as long as you're within that eighty win range,

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Speaker 6: Like if you have a team that looks like they

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Speaker 6: can do that, you just need four or five more

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Speaker 6: games to swing your way and you're a playoff team.

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Speaker 3: Can Cruz get thirty thirty because that'd be a help.

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Speaker 4: He can, because he's got the potential to do.

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Speaker 3: So he needs to for them to make the play.

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Speaker 1: He will not.

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Speaker 4: I just don't think he will, don't.

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Speaker 3: I think he's a dummy.

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Speaker 4: I think that's part of it.

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Speaker 3: And I think he's the attention span of a goat.

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Speaker 6: Quite frankly, I just don't think he's very good at

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Speaker 6: the plate, like he's got the exit velocity.

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Speaker 1: On the exact Really, there's no craft. He's not cerebral

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Speaker 1: at all.

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Speaker 6: As a hitter, he's streaky, and most of the streakiness

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Speaker 6: is crap. Last year, towards the end of the season,

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Speaker 6: he was awful. One of the worst hitters in baseball.

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Speaker 6: I mean, for his ops to be in the six hundreds,

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Speaker 6: like that's inexcusable. He's an eight point fifty and up

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Speaker 6: ops player needs to be you.

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Speaker 3: Know who else needs to turn it up as Reynolds.

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Speaker 1: He needs to not be man because the citizens have

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Speaker 1: been too accepting of Brian Reynolds's mediocrit. He only had

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Speaker 1: sixteen home runs last year, two forty five batting average,

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Speaker 1: and Tom, here's the stat You know how when you

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Speaker 1: look through baseball stats, my complaint is you can find

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Speaker 1: something to prove the opposite of what a player is.

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Speaker 1: You can always hide somebody's failure in the odd staff

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Speaker 1: because there's so many, but here's one that jump dot

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Speaker 1: going the other way.

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Speaker 3: He struck out last year one hundred and seventy three times.

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Speaker 6: That Reynolds can't do that. Rends has got to be

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Speaker 6: a better player than it put the ball in play more.

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Speaker 6: I think what Noah said yesterday when he named Reynolds

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Speaker 6: and he named cruises like maybe the most important pirates

637
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Speaker 6: this year is spot on because O'Hearn and Lao and Ozuna,

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Speaker 6: we're pretty sure what we're going to get out of

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Speaker 6: those guys. You need the guys like Reynolds.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: No, no, he's not.

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Speaker 1: There's not a big enough sample size, which is why

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Speaker 1: you got him at a rubber ring.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, two year deal for him. The one thing I'm

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Speaker 6: worried about o'hearne is he's going to be in the outfield.

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Speaker 6: He was really good at first base last year, Like

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Speaker 6: the more I'm digging into it, he was one of

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Speaker 6: the better first basemen and you're not using him there.

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Speaker 3: Well, O'Hearn BET's left, what's horwich.

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Speaker 4: Bet Harris is the left to oh yeah.

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Speaker 3: Because you could put tune them at first if well,

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Speaker 3: you can't because.

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Speaker 4: They both hit like, I don't think Horwitz plays the outfield.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm saying that you consider we could spit

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Speaker 1: it smoot because they both bet left.

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Speaker 3: Uh. I didn't realize until we talked yesterday, Tom.

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Speaker 1: Every one of their five starters is a right handed pitcher,

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Speaker 1: at least those projected.

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Speaker 3: But here's the thought.

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Speaker 1: Hunter Barco's twenty five we talk about, like this prospect,

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Speaker 1: he's twenty five, Is he a possibility?

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Speaker 3: Could he be ready? He's a lefty.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't hate it. They need somebody in that rotation

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Speaker 4: that's a lefty.

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Speaker 3: Though.

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Speaker 4: If it has to be Hunter Barco and you go youth,

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Speaker 4: go youth.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 4: If it has to be a veteran, go out and

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Speaker 4: get a veteran.

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Speaker 6: I saw Jose Quintana signed with the Rockies the other day, Like,

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Speaker 6: that's kind of the veteran that I'm thinking of. And

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Speaker 6: he was here recently with the Pirates for a stint.

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Speaker 6: But he's okay. His era will probably be like you know,

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Speaker 6: four point twenty four. He just them not having a

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Speaker 6: single lefty and playing at panc Park where it's a

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Speaker 6: short porch for left handed bats. That's very disturbing it's

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Speaker 6: a huge flaw in the rotation.

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Speaker 3: All right, up next, we'll talk about skaters that they

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Speaker 3: hot or not. One oh five nine v X welcomes

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Speaker 3: three Days Grace to town.

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Speaker 4: On March third at Egg James Arena. And if we

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Speaker 4: got something.

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Speaker 5: Cool for you, I shot it checking out a song

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Speaker 5: at the concert from on stage, not the side of

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Speaker 5: the stage or behind the stage, not in the bathroom,

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Speaker 5: on stage and just how are we going to do that?

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Speaker 2: Well, that's where you come in.

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Speaker 5: We're looking for the number one three Days Grace fan.

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Speaker 7: Just tell us in thirty seconds or less on the

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Speaker 7: talkback feature of the free iHeartRadio app by you are

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Speaker 7: the number one three Days Grace Fan from one oh

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Speaker 7: five to nine the X from the one oh five

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Speaker 7: nine the ex Weather Center.

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Speaker 3: This report is sponsored by Wendy's New Biggie Deals.

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Speaker 1: It's got to be Cloudy today, Free game show on

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Speaker 1: one oh five nine.

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Speaker 5: D X.

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Speaker 3: U Tom.

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Speaker 1: Before we went to break, I was talking about whether

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Speaker 1: figure skaters the Olympics are hot.

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Speaker 3: What do you think?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think they're pretty hot. Well, they all had

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Speaker 6: that skater's ass, they definitely do. And the guys to

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Speaker 6: the uniforms really accent that too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so I I don't understand a single thing

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Speaker 1: of what they're doing.

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Speaker 3: I don't see the attraction. Some people love it. Women

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Speaker 3: love it. It's a sport.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the exact demographic breakdown would be

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Speaker 1: for ratings, but women seem.

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Speaker 6: To, Oh my god, it's on all the time, Like

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Speaker 6: you can't turn on Olympic coverage without it basically being

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Speaker 6: one of the figure skating competitions. It's clearly one of

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Speaker 6: the most popular sports in the Winter Olympics, even though

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Speaker 6: I don't watch it.

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Speaker 1: I don't get snowboarding. How did snowboarding become a sport?

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Speaker 1: Is skateboarding is sport in the summer?

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Speaker 4: Limp sport?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 4: I think, oh, I think it is a sport.

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Speaker 3: Ridiculous.

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Speaker 6: I don't know snowboarding. You know, you go up and

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Speaker 6: down the halfpipe, you do a couple of flips. It's

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Speaker 6: pretty cool.

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Speaker 3: It sucks.

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Speaker 1: To tom you you looked up, Uh, what's fangraphs.

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Speaker 6: It's like some big analytics site. But MLB's official Twitter

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Speaker 6: feed tweeted out the standing predictions from fangraphs.

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Speaker 3: And so forth. It's as of this moment two minutes ago.

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Speaker 6: This was tweeted out the Pirates were a seventy four

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Speaker 6: and eighty eight fifth place team in the NL Central.

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Speaker 3: Well, you see, I said what they'd win seventy seven games.

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Speaker 3: That's not that big a.

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Speaker 6: Difference far off in baseball. That's basically getting it right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know what could happen to And

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Speaker 1: if I'm guilty of this, then the people who like

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Speaker 1: the Pirates could be even more guilty. I think people

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Speaker 1: are so amazed by them spending more money and adding

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Speaker 1: even three players of decent caliber that were over we're

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Speaker 1: overestimating how much better they are.

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Speaker 6: They predicted the Cubs would take the Central with just

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Speaker 6: eighty seven wins, So it's a very weak Central according

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Speaker 6: to this Fangrass prediction, very gettable Central Division. But seventy

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Speaker 6: four for the Pittsburgh Pirates. And you pointed it out yesterday, Mark,

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Speaker 6: they won what seventy one games last year to get

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Speaker 6: to eighty three eighty four to have a thirteen to

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Speaker 6: fourteen win improvement, that's a massive swing in a sport

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Speaker 6: like baseball. I mean almost unheard of to be that

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Speaker 6: much better year to year.

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Speaker 1: Uh okay, what about for the trifecta for today's trifecta.

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Speaker 4: We were just talking about figure skating.

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Speaker 1: Forgetting shend Rova, Schendrofers and Fisherman sponsored the first hour.

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Speaker 1: I keep forgetting to say it and this is by

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Speaker 1: Danny's PiZZ and Hogies.

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Speaker 3: I'm old, I'm forgetful. We need to have this pre taped.

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Speaker 4: The entire show.

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Speaker 1: Not a bad idea for today's You never realized my

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Speaker 1: dream of just tape, of doing one hour and repeating

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Speaker 1: the hour four times.

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Speaker 6: As far as they know, we've never done no, no,

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Speaker 6: we never have done that. I haven't no, but maybe

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Speaker 6: it's coming. With the Winter Olympics and figure skating being

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Speaker 6: on all the time. I don't like watching it, and

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Speaker 6: anytime it's on it makes me want to turn it

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Speaker 6: off and turn on the movie Blades of Glory.

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Speaker 3: So Will Ferrell, John Heater.

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Speaker 6: Yes, a ton of great polar our, Nett Poehler, coach,

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Speaker 6: Craig T. Nelson, Fiekner has a role there. But these

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Speaker 6: are my top three things.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I would like Olympic figure skating much

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Speaker 1: more if somebody would try the iron lotus.

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Speaker 4: Well, there's my number one. These are my three favorite things.

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Speaker 3: I was wrong, it's suicide.

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Speaker 6: Number three favorite thing about the MOE is Jimmy Stalker

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Speaker 6: John Heater Stalker played by Nick Swartzon, who is really

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Speaker 6: the catalyst for the movie because he finds the loophole

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Speaker 6: in the rule book to let them compete.

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Speaker 3: I want to wear the gold medal. Jimmy naked, I

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Speaker 3: love too.

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Speaker 6: As he's leaving, he's like, I'm still gonna murder you

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Speaker 6: one day. Number two has got to be the Evil

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Speaker 6: Wizard in grublets on Ice.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, the Evil Wizard was the manager.

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Speaker 1: Of grublets on Ice, Rob Quadry, Did you come here

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Speaker 1: to skater poach?

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Speaker 4: Are you drunk?

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Speaker 3: Damn it?

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Speaker 4: I'd fire you if you weren't so great on that ice.

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Speaker 3: So magnificent out there. Yeah, you just did the Evil

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Speaker 3: Wizard lab.

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Speaker 6: And then the puking in the costume. Two is just

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Speaker 6: so great. But as you've stole number one, Iron lows

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Speaker 6: there will be no refunds. Iron Lotus is by far

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Speaker 6: the best part of the movie. I swear to God,

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Speaker 6: if you cut my head off, It's the whole thing

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Speaker 6: of the movie. The training for it is awesome when

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Speaker 6: they're cutting the heads off the dummy in training and

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Speaker 6: Chaz is like circling round.

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Speaker 1: He's like, I'm almost getting it, I promise, and their

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Speaker 1: heads line all over the place right exactly.

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Speaker 6: But you nailed it the best part overall in the

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Speaker 6: movie as coach Crankie Nelson.

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Speaker 4: No, no, I was wrong forget about it.

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Speaker 6: As they're gearing up to side and they switch it

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Speaker 6: and John Heener is the one that executes it. In

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Speaker 6: the movie, Jimmy is because of the broken ankle for

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Speaker 6: Will Ferrell.

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Speaker 3: And my brother's girlfriend and she is not a whore.

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Speaker 6: How crazy too is the video from was It China?

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Speaker 6: North Korea, Korea that head just falls off.

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Speaker 1: The woman kneels for a second and the head just

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Speaker 1: falls off and the body slumps forward.

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Speaker 3: Tremendous.

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Speaker 1: The trifecta brought to us by Danny's PiZZ and Hogies,

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Speaker 1: family owned and operator since nineteen sixty. Danny's is on

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Speaker 1: Route eighty eight in Bethel Park. Tom we got some

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Speaker 1: sad news. Since we often quote slapsticky type movies, James

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Speaker 1: Vanderbeek has passed away at age forty eight due to cancer.

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Speaker 1: I thought he was great. He wasn't like Brad Pitt,

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Speaker 1: a mainstream type success. But there's so many movies that

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Speaker 1: we were just quoting off the air. Obviously, Friday Uh

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Speaker 1: Varsity Barsny Blues was the comedy version of Friday Night Lights.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, Jans Stile and Bob strike back Dawson's Creek.

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Speaker 1: I mean just just and he was a guy who

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Speaker 1: could do teen type stuff, comedy type stuff. He was

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Speaker 1: just very diverse and and I really was entertained by him.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's kind of a good call for you to say,

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Speaker 6: like a Brad Pitt that didn't get to that level,

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Speaker 6: because he does kind of have that look but never

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Speaker 6: hit it to that kind of success. But yeah, he

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Speaker 6: was all over the place and forty eight years old.

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Speaker 6: When you see that, that just sucks so hard. That's

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Speaker 6: so early.

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Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, my friend, I've done plenty

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Speaker 3: of that. Do you remember that?

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Speaker 1: I vaguely, Yeah, where where Jay's acting at like making

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Speaker 1: out and you know, stimulating the part of the female

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Speaker 1: in nat and he goes you ever done any of that?

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Speaker 1: He takes off the he takes off the hat that

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Speaker 1: had him as James As my friend, I've done plenty

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Speaker 1: of that.

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Speaker 6: That's we were talking about this off they that's Kevin

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Speaker 6: Smith's really like only claim to fame is always camping.

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Speaker 3: It's effective at all at is is? Uh?

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Speaker 1: The cast of Clerks writing around those characters and those

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Speaker 1: it's Jane Silent Bober.

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Speaker 4: Jane silent Bob. Yeah. Now he did the movie Dogma, right,

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Speaker 4: was that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: That was Kevin Smith too, So I'll give him a

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Speaker 4: dog I'll give him that Jane Silent.

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Speaker 3: Bober and Dogga.

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Speaker 2: That's true.

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Speaker 4: So there you go. It comes back into that universe.

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Speaker 4: It's always that universe.

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Speaker 1: You know who was in my studio for a full

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Speaker 1: hour back when Clerks two came out. God, I forget

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Speaker 1: the actors' names. The guys who played Randall and uh

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Speaker 1: who was Randall's side kicking the.

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Speaker 6: Store clerks too? It was Randall and Dante.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, the actors who played Randall and had them both. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they were hilarious, Jeff Anderson and Brian o'haler and yeah,

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Speaker 1: they said they said during a break, they go, we're

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Speaker 1: actually grateful because you appear to be a fan of

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Speaker 1: the work, whereas most of the people we go in

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Speaker 1: cold and it's just it's just, you know, awful.

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Speaker 6: They really didn't do much those two, did they other

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Speaker 6: than the clerk's clerks to no.

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Speaker 3: No, they were kind of stuck in that universe. They

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Speaker 3: did one.

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Speaker 1: They did one movie about Brian o'haller and plays a clown.

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Speaker 3: Look this up, look look the name of it up.

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Speaker 1: He plays a clown who who is who is a

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Speaker 1: hero but then gets drugged and raped.

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Speaker 3: It's it's like a really dark movie.

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Speaker 4: I haven't found it. Vulgar? Is that yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah?

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Speaker 1: He like.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: They take that seriously.

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Speaker 1: They were like, I said, I go, now, Brian, you've

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Speaker 1: been in a movie where you're you're a clown who

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Speaker 1: becomes a hero but gets raped and and uh, Jeff

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Speaker 1: Anderson jumps in, he goes art imitates life. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: but very very sad to hear about jameson fan. All right,

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Speaker 1: up next, I'll talk about something.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 1: and Fisherman. We got the Porter thing. I want your

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Speaker 1: reaction to Porter thing. We'll probably play it once more

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Speaker 1: this next segment. I want your reaction to it. In

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Speaker 1: through the rest of the show and barely pay attention.

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