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Speaker 2: Well, so we come to the end of the broadcast

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Speaker 2: year here on Nightside. This is my last program for

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Speaker 2: Dan Ray. I am the host of Nightside. Have been

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Speaker 2: the host of Nightside since two thousand and seven. We

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Speaker 2: eight PM four guests coming up. We're going to talk

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Speaker 2: about porch pirates. We're going to talk about holiday safety

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Speaker 2: talk about holiday travel, and we're going to talk to

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Speaker 2: five days unjustly date jailed in Venezuela. Jorge Toleda, Venezuelan born,

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Speaker 2: WUS citizen and a former SITCO executive, does give us

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Speaker 2: to introduce Brian Westnedge. He's a vice president of Alliances

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Speaker 2: and Partnerships at red Sift, twenty years in the cyber

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Speaker 2: security space. Brian, Welcome to Night's Side.

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Speaker 3: How are you.

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Speaker 4: Tonight, Hey, great, Dan's good to be with you.

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Speaker 2: Well, if there's one group of people that all of

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Speaker 2: us agree should be called to task, it is porch pirates.

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Speaker 2: And we're not talking about the Pittsburgh pirates. We're talking

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Speaker 2: about those sneaky sobs who roam our neighborhoods and steal

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Speaker 2: or attempt to steal packages that are meant for us,

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Speaker 2: that were left on our porches. And this has become

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Speaker 2: I never remember this going on when I was younger period,

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Speaker 2: How did this start in How rife is this practice

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Dan, it's probably become more prominent in

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Speaker 2: I also assumed that we probably see more of this

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Speaker 3: It at jerks.

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Speaker 2: Idiots walk up to the front porch added broad daylight,

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Speaker 2: to cheer them cheer them up. Are these people prosecuted anywhere?

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Speaker 2: Because I never hear of a porch pirate going to jail.

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Speaker 2: But I also think that there's an element in porch

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Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, the grinch is out all year round with

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Speaker 4: But your your point about is this a highly prosecutable crime?

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Speaker 2: It's also a quality of life issue. If you cannot

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Speaker 2: securely to your property, that's a real issue. And I

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Speaker 2: do think that we have downplayed a lot of our

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Speaker 2: I think that probably emboldens the porch pirates. Is there

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, our rents website, red sip is just red sift

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Speaker 4: Of course, I would suggest checking out the Quinsy Police

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Speaker 4: website for more information on their task force. And certainly,

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Speaker 4: you know determined Kirk doesn't have to be supertech savvy,

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Speaker 4: But hey, don't be a soft target, you know, don't

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Speaker 4: be an easy target. Protect yourself as best you can.

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Speaker 4: At least get a video doorbell so the folks know

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Speaker 2: I think that if we could legalize trip wires and

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Speaker 2: I speak with tongue firmly planted in cheat. It's cheek,

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Speaker 2: but it just seems to me to be absolutely a

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Speaker 2: your comfort in your community. Brian have really appreciated this conversation.

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Speaker 2: We will check on the Quincy Police Porch Pirate Task

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Speaker 2: Force and if you would do the same maybe check

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Speaker 2: can do an hour later on when we get back

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Speaker 2: in January. I'd love to do something like this to

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Speaker 2: try to deter this activity.

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Speaker 4: Okay, absolutely would love that, Dan, and happy end of

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Speaker 4: year to you. Happy holidays and happy New Year.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Do you celebrate Christmas? Of course, Merry Christmas. I

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Speaker 3: To specify migreeting. So merry Christmas, Brian, thanks, that's what.

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Speaker 3: Thanks doc soon, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Coming back when I talk a little different focus on

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Speaker 2: holiday safety. But this is when it comes to the

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Speaker 2: gift turns out to be defective. Don Fountain, a leading

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Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray on w B

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Speaker 2: Want to welcome attorney Down Fountain as leading product safety attorney.

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Speaker 2: Partner Clark Fountain, La Vista lit Key Rubin, the also

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Speaker 2: author of a book called defect safety a primer for

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Dan, thanks for having me, and you're exactly right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, Thank goodness, there are attorneys like yourself

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Speaker 5: Well, in this country, we do have a lot of

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Speaker 2: Okay, this all of us, and I'm an attorney as well,

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Speaker 5: And the public doesn't realize how important they are in

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Speaker 2: As the grandparent of a couple of young grandchildren. Had

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Speaker 2: So you have a book which I think a lot

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Speaker 5: It's absolutely for the general public as well, because what

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Speaker 3: So this is why.

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Speaker 2: This is sort of case studies that we would have

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Speaker 5: Exactly. You know a lot of times, you know, we

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Speaker 2: Later on, Don Fountain, Attorney, Don Fountain, thanks very much.

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Speaker 2: How can folks get in touch with you if they

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Speaker 2: Let Amazon Defect Safety a primer for lawyers to identify

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Speaker 5: Sure, Clark Fountain dot com on the internet and the

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Speaker 3: Sounds great.

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Speaker 5: I really appreciate you having me on today, and I

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Speaker 2: Right back at you, a counselor thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: Merry Christmas to you and you as we'll talk again, perhaps,

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Speaker 3: Where we come back.

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Speaker 2: On the other side of the news at the bottom

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Speaker 2: of Total Traffic and Weather Network and a great traffic reporter.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about what to expect over the next two

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Speaker 2: Well, speaking of road construction and speaking of traffic tie ups.

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Speaker 2: Who better to talk to about those very critical subjects

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Speaker 2: we have Dan on the line right now? Great, excellent,

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Speaker 2: I'm right here, Dan, perfect timing. This is unbelievable the

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Speaker 3: How are you, sir? How you doing?

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Speaker 6: I am great, Dan, and Happy Festivus to you.

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Speaker 2: I yes, yes, How are you celebrating Festivus well?

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Speaker 3: You can get in the building, if you get into

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Speaker 6: Get in the building. We do have a festivist poll

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Speaker 2: I just wanted to make sure that you you weren't

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Speaker 6: This is my last, this might be my last interview.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so before before someone comes in and dragoons you

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Speaker 2: But and I don't know how much what percentage of

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Speaker 3: You're going to be busy for mister Mazella.

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Speaker 6: Uh yeah, and we have already started to see it.

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Speaker 3: I was, Wait sec I was.

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Speaker 2: Told that you are always ferried in a limo courtesy

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Speaker 6: I decided to give my guy the the night off.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure frightening. I think there's a song that says

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Speaker 6: Right, I mean that is the time to really make

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Speaker 6: something a little bit earlier. That's That's probably the best

440
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 6: advice I could give anybody, because you know, the phrase

441
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 6: in New England is if you don't like the weather,

442
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 6: just wait a minute and it changes. I don't think

443
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 6: that's going to affect in the or be an effect

444
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 6: in the winter. Because you know, we wanted to change,

445
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 6: but sometimes it just gets worse, whether it's freezing rain,

446
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 6: whether it's more snow, whether it's you know, high winds.

447
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 6: And again this effects driving, This effects air travel, and

448
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,400
Speaker 6: you know, there are people coming into Boston from other

449
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 6: parts of the country and they're affected by the weather

450
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 6: up here as well, because if if you know, there's

451
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 6: a delay because of weather up here, they're going to

452
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 6: be delayed wherever they are. So you could be in

453
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 6: a warmer climate, but because of our weather, it's messing

454
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 6: things up for everybody. So I do take your advice, Dan,

455
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 6: I'm going to write this down. Tell everyone to start

456
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 6: their travel in October going to Grandma's house.

457
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Speaker 2: You go late October, late October, late until Russian late October.

458
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Speaker 3: Give yourself a few weeks just in case. So in

459
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 3: terms of the weather, I'm.

460
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Speaker 2: Watching the weather forecast tonight on the local news channels

461
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 2: and they were seeming to suggest that the biggest problem

462
00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 2: that might occur in the next few days will actually

463
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 2: be after Christmas, will be on Saturday night.

464
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Speaker 3: Is that what you're seeing as well?

465
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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that's what we're seeing as well. And you

466
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 6: know what a lot of people do around this time

467
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 6: of the year. Is depending again when you know, you

468
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 6: figured out the plan of when of when Christmas and

469
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 6: New Year's fall together, so you know this year it's

470
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 6: it's it's very unique. It's on Thursdays, so you have well.

471
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Speaker 3: It's about one out of seven years that happens.

472
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Speaker 6: I don't know, right, yes, statistically, So we have these

473
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 6: Fridays that are open, and believe it or not, some

474
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 6: people do have to work, but a lot of people

475
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 6: just kind of use the vacation day and the same

476
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 6: thing into January. But they've taken like this entire week

477
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 6: off and you know, so a lot of people will

478
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 6: travel on Saturday because if they're leaving grandma's house, or

479
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 6: they're going, you know, to another family member's house just

480
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 6: to spend the other week because schools are also off,

481
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,679
Speaker 6: they want their kids to go, you know, play with

482
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 6: the cousin since that they haven't seen in a while,

483
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 6: or they're just going somewhere a little bit warmer. And

484
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 6: I don't blame them. I'd love to join them, but

485
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 6: they are all just trying to get out of here.

486
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 6: So if you're going to be doing any traveling on Saturday,

487
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 6: whether it's by air or car again, you really need

488
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 6: to rethink things. And you know, I know a lot

489
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 6: of people don't do this in New England, even though

490
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 6: they should get winter tires. That's that's not me trying

491
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,959
Speaker 6: to plug anything. I have winter tires and it is

492
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 6: the best investment ever, even when it doesn't you don't

493
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 6: think it's gonna snow. When it's something that's as little

494
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 6: as what we're gaining outside, it really makes a difference.

495
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 6: And my limo has it as well.

496
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Speaker 2: And when you say people go to warmer climes, obviously

497
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,199
Speaker 2: you're talking about people heading south. I assume you mean

498
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 2: New Jersey.

499
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, New Jersey.

500
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's beautiful.

501
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 2: I mean at you get south in Newark and it's

502
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 2: the whole thing changes.

503
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 6: No, yeah, yeah, it's it's crazy the way things are

504
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:02,479
Speaker 6: divided up.

505
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

506
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 2: So so this let's let's hope that everybody keeps their

507
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 2: composure and uh not everybody travels with a limo like you.

508
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,719
Speaker 3: Uh and and we we're envious of it.

509
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 2: But since you are the operations director, there's some perks

510
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: that do come with that position, and uh.

511
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 6: Not many, not many, but that is one that I

512
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 6: fought for when I saw it, I I I I

513
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 6: may have waived the bonuses.

514
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 3: That's beautiful, Dad Mozilla.

515
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Speaker 2: Look I have a great Christmas and a great New

516
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 2: Year's and enjoy fest of Us as well, sir, anything

517
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 2: else that you celebrate this year. At this time, I

518
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 2: had to wish you everything well.

519
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 6: Thank you, Sarah. I. I appreciate that you know. Same

520
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 6: to you and your family, and you know, let's let's

521
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 6: hope I can do this in the next year after

522
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 6: after talking about grievances.

523
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 2: Y oh, no, you were you were speaking metaphorically for

524
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 2: of course, I'm sure that the powers that be I

525
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 2: understand that totally. Dan Mozella, thank you so much. We

526
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,719
Speaker 2: will talk to you again in twenty twenty six. Okay,

527
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 2: thanks so much, Bundy always enjoyed. Thanks very much.

528
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 3: We get back.

529
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 2: Going to get a little bit more serious. Believe it

530
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 2: or not. We're going to talk with the man who

531
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 2: survived one thy, seven hundred and seventy five days. That's

532
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 2: almost five years of injust detention in Venezuela. He's going

533
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 2: to share his story. His name is Jorge Toledo. He

534
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 2: is a Venzuelan born US citizen and a former SITCO executive.

535
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 2: We'll talk with Jorge Toledo right after this break coming

536
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 2: up here on a nine forty six in Boston.

537
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: Night side with Dan Ray I'Z Boston's News Radio.

538
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,959
Speaker 2: Delighted to be joined by Jorge Toledo. He's a Venezuelan

539
00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 2: born American citizen, former SIDCO executive VIBE one thousand, seven

540
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy five very long days of unjust imprisonment

541
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 2: in Venezuela. Jorge Toledo, thank you for joining us tonight.

542
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 2: You still don't know why you were arrested and what

543
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 2: you were charged with and your captivity ended. I guess

544
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 2: was in October of twenty twenty two when there was

545
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 2: a release and tell us, tell us, why do you

546
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 2: think you were You were put into into prison wrongfully

547
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 2: in Venezuela. You were summoned to go to a meeting there.

548
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 7: Correct, Yes, Well, first of all, thank you for having

549
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 7: me and good.

550
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 4: Eating and everyone.

551
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 7: It's such a pleasure. Initially, Yeah, I was summoned for

552
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 7: a meeting in Venezuela, which was, you know, something that

553
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 7: was not very uncommon from the business standpoint, because we

554
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 7: had a huge crew supply contract with Venezuela.

555
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 2: Or you were summoned by Venezuelan officials. It was you

556
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 2: weren't summoned by Yeah, your company, Okay, So you show

557
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 2: up and you had a couple of days of meetings

558
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, some armed guards show

559
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 2: up and were you the only one with there several

560
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 2: who were placed in attention.

561
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 7: No, it was five other colleagues. We were all executives

562
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 7: from Citco Petroleum, and we were imprisoned with allegedly been

563
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 7: acting against the Venezuelan government, the Venezuelan country, supporting the

564
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:57,719
Speaker 7: US uh to impose economic sanctions to Venezuela, and even

565
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 7: disrupting the relationships between Venezuela and Russia because of the

566
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 7: could supply agreements.

567
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 2: So that I can't imagine what it must have been like,

568
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 2: but I'm sure one day in Venezuela and jail under

569
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 2: those circumstances was terrible.

570
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 7: Yeah. Well, I was in a dungeon in horrible brutal conditions.

571
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 7: I was physically and mentally tortured. I was deprived of

572
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 7: proper nutrition, I was deprived of communication with my family,

573
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 7: with attorneys, even with the consular office of the US

574
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 7: Embassy in Venezuela that at that time in twenty seventeen

575
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 7: and twenty eighteen, there were still the diplomatic relationships between

576
00:32:56,040 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 7: the US and Venezuela. So that is a amongst you know,

577
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 7: being in a corrupted or manipulated justice system that brought

578
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 7: us with within a shamp trial. So it was that

579
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 7: was in general the conditions that I was within.

580
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Speaker 2: You were released in some form of a hostage swap.

581
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 2: It sounds to me like in Layman's terms, Uh, it

582
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 2: probably is very complicated.

583
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 3: Do you have any civil action against the Venezuelan government?

584
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 7: Well, uh, the uh in a in in my case

585
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 7: or in my college case, there was a point of

586
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 7: complication that when a commonly you know in the past,

587
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 7: whoever perpetrated the an abduction or a hostage taking practice

588
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 7: was a criminal organization such as you know, terrorist organization,

589
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 7: a drog cardl But in my case there was a state.

590
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 7: So there was a lot a gap within the jurisdiction

591
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 7: in the US, even international and universal universal law that

592
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 7: could open the avenue at that moment to any legal action. Nevertheless,

593
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 7: today there's some new legislation that allows the application of

594
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 7: justice towards the perpetrators of this crime.

595
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 2: Are you You're living hopefully in the US, you have

596
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 2: not gone back to Venezuela.

597
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,760
Speaker 7: I assume, well, I've been in the US for almost

598
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 7: forty years.

599
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 2: No, you're you're a naturalized US citizen. I understand that.

600
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,919
Speaker 2: But I'm saying since your release, you have not gone

601
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 2: back to Venezuela.

602
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 7: No, for I think that's neither myself nor any US citizen,

603
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 7: any any person with a blue passport, because he's a

604
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 7: target of this criminal practice.

605
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 2: So let me ask you this question if I can,

606
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 2: and if you can't answer it or you're unwilling to

607
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 2: answer it, as you see what is going on in

608
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 2: the Caribbean and off the coast of Venezuela today, pressure

609
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 2: is being brought to a bear on Maduro and hopefully

610
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 2: he will understand that his days are numbered and.

611
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 3: He will he will leave. But what is your thought

612
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 3: of this? Is this? Is this where this had to go?

613
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 2: Or do you you know, do you want to offer

614
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 2: comment as someone who had been a political prisoner in

615
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 2: this country for seventeen hundred and seventy five days, what

616
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 2: you think as this this whole drama unfolds in the.

617
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 3: Last few weeks.

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00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 7: Well, the issue is this, so you have a criminal

619
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 7: organization run in a country down there, and you cannot

620
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 7: be with criminals with diplomacy. So this is a very

621
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 7: you know, unprecedented situation and that's why you know, this

622
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 7: has lasted so long. So they I think that this

623
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 7: has reached an extreme, an extreme point and eventually, you know,

624
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 7: I hope that this is a permanent solution for the

625
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 7: Venezuelan people, even for the the hemisphere and the issue

626
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 7: of national security that the Venezuelan regime is bringing to

627
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 7: the United States.

628
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 2: Are you hopeful it will be resolved in a good

629
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 2: way soon?

630
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 7: Well, uh, it's a I uh, I think that the

631
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 7: the use of force is uh, it's going to bring

632
00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 7: collateral damages or any other case in the in the

633
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 7: in history.

634
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:03,439
Speaker 4: But you know, you.

635
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 7: Cannot treat a to a brain tumor with an aspirin.

636
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 7: So that's the analogy that I that I think. You know,

637
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 7: it's we are talking about something very serious and requires

638
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 7: a serious action.

639
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 3: Well, thank you very much. We're delighted to speak with

640
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 3: you tonight.

641
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 2: I hope that do you do you have a book

642
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 2: or anything like that that we can that people can

643
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: read more about your story.

644
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, I have just published Yeah, I have just published

645
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 7: a book. The name of the book is one thousand

646
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 7: and seven hundred and seventy five Days of Captivity, and

647
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 7: it's available in uh, you know, online via Amazon, Barnes

648
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 7: and Novels, and via my publisher, Archway Publishing dot com.

649
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 7: So it's already in the market. And uh it's a

650
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 7: long book, but it's a memoir where I, you know,

651
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 7: I tell the whole thing.

652
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, son, I hope that many of our listeners

653
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 2: might be interested. Again, one seven hundred and seventy five

654
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 2: days of captivity an easy number to remember, a horrific

655
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 2: number for you to have experienced. Thank you for your time,

656
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,240
Speaker 2: and thank you for your courage. And let us hope

657
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 2: that the situation in Venezuela resolve its resolves itself. And

658
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 2: I would hope that Medoro would have the intelligence to

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Speaker 2: leave that country, allow that country to prosper, and go

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Speaker 2: and spend whatever days he has left in Russia or

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Speaker 2: North Korea or whatever a hellhole.

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Speaker 3: Of his choice.

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Speaker 7: Well, thank you for having me appreciated.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: For Hey, thanks so much, Thank you, bye bye.

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Speaker 3: Well we get back.

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Speaker 2: We have one hour of during which we're going to

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Speaker 2: open up a conversation, and I want to hear from

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Speaker 2: you about what you think is the most important, the

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Speaker 2: most significant, or the most interesting local, national, or international

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Speaker 2: story of the year. Doesn't have to be a news story.

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Speaker 2: Probably in many cases it will be a news story.

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Speaker 2: Love to have you join us, and you can start

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Speaker 2: calling right now. Six one, seven, two, five, four ten

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Speaker 2: thirty or six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.

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Speaker 3: My name is Dan Ray.

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Speaker 2: We are moving towards the thirteenth annual Night Side Charity Combine,

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Speaker 2: which will run tonight from ten until midnight, and you'll

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Speaker 2: enjoy that. Let's get the phone started for next hour

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Speaker 2: right now,