1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Well, I would just say, dim the lights, draw the curtain, 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: fade to black, little bit, and that's that's that's how 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: that's all she wrote. 4 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 2: Even even that's all, folks. 5 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: Wow, before the program is over, we're hoping to get 6 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: to the bottom of what went wrong. 7 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:20,319 Speaker 2: The wild seemed to. 8 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: Be for every for every for every step they take. 9 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: Now you don't take a step in hockey before, before 10 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: every before you put one skate in front of you, 11 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: they take two steps back. The Wolves begin their season 12 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: here on Wednesday. The Alcus is down to one final game, 13 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: and of course NFL wacky and wild as always, with 14 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 1: all those topics to get to, I'm not sure where 15 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 1: to begin today, So let's. 16 00:00:47,360 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 2: Spin the wheel of topic commons golf games. Oh that's 17 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: a bright spot. What did you shoot to shot an 18 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: eighty one? Where did we play a trail? Where'd you 19 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 2: hit it on one? Right off the gun? How far 20 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 2: from the game? I had one oh four to the pin. 21 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 2: I hit it a little long, the wind was at 22 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 2: my back. 23 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: I should have hit a I should have hit the 24 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: forty five degree instead of the pitching one. Then what 25 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: a three buttons? But it's all good, Yeah, it's all good. 26 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: I on my two days off. It was just awful. 27 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,199 Speaker 1: I played as bad and you know. 28 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 2: It's it's it's. 29 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: I mean. I on my final round at Mystic Lake 30 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: Friday afternoon, at the medals of a Misstic Lake, I 31 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: had more shanks than I had combined, more shanks. So 32 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: then I I took a long, hard look at myself. 33 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: I went to the range Saturday morning, got up early, 34 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: got up, got out of bed right, a comb across 35 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: my head, and I. 36 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 2: I'm now incorporating. I think I told you tend Toby. 37 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: I have this where I've always been a guy that 38 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: as I'm getting ready, as I addressed the ball and 39 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: I'm making my move away from the ball with the 40 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: club pulling the club away. 41 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 2: I'm a swearer and I've worked on. 42 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: Just making the turn my upper Torso I decided to 43 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: bring that into all of my clubs, not just the driver, 44 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: and within twenty minutes I had it figured out. Today 45 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: it ain'ty one's nothing to write home about. That was 46 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,679 Speaker 1: with a double in a triple though. So again I 47 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: played four holes or sixteen holes and forever hit the 48 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: ball really, really well. So I think it might be 49 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: it's a new beginning for me. It's only the beginning. 50 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: Matter fact, we would have probably been better off playing 51 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: only the beginning and gone over my round shot by shot. 52 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: But that's the synopsis of and you asked, not me. 53 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: That's what the Wheeler topic land on that. So what 54 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: am I supposed to do? That's that's where it ended up. 55 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: I still think one should get a better chance to 56 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: win with Once than we do with McCarthy. 57 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 2: Wow, that was a game that was right there, tenn 58 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 2: to be. It was there for the taking. 59 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 1: There might be moral victories in in in in house basketball, 60 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: right third grade. 61 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, there are no moral. 62 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: Victories in the National Football League. But I thought we 63 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: were going to pull the fat out of the fire. 64 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: I thought we were going to win that football game. 65 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: And red zone issues tend to be a big plays 66 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: and turnovers. We turned the ball over a couple of times, 67 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: won for a tuddy the other way, and well they 68 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: had some big plays on the other side of the ball. 69 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: I mean, we had not given up, if I had 70 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: my numbers right. 71 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 2: You know, when you read. 72 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: Recaps of the game, there's so much information it's hard 73 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: for me to even keep track. But I think I 74 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: saw that we'd only given up, Like we being the Vikings. 75 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: Pretty soon it's gonna be they. It keeps up like that, 76 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: I'll abandon shift. I but as the as Dido sing 77 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: saying song, it's white flag. You and I have not 78 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: given up yet. We're not going to raise our arms 79 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: and surrender. There will be no white flag above our door. 80 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: I think we'd given up only three passes of twenty 81 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: air yards or more all season long, and. 82 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 2: We gave up. 83 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: I mean, their quarterback Jalen Hurts, did he have a 84 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: perfect cube Q be ready? 85 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 2: Yesterday wasn't a perfect It wasn't like one fifty three 86 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 2: point eight. It's just like, how do you do that? 87 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 2: I thought we were being situation. I thought we were bflow. 88 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: I thought we were aggressive without being reckless, and we 89 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: couldn't let. 90 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 2: Him go anywhere. Yeah, and I'm not blaming him. 91 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: I'm just saying I just go back to all the 92 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: things that the people tell me that you know, it's 93 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: all B flow, And when he's in charge, it doesn't 94 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: matter who the players are. And when we have O'Connell 95 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: as the head coach, does matter who our quarterback is, 96 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: And it does matter, it really does. It's it's the 97 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: players that play in the coaches that coach and as 98 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, I think the Fisher ref factory 99 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: west Side on it was either Saturday or Sunday. They 100 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: did a big uh spread on uh uh. 101 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: Zay roj. 102 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: And he got burned a couple of times, big time, 103 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: especially that last That last one was that was the killer. 104 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 2: That was the that was the one that I sted 105 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 2: for him. 106 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: And we we stopped the running game, you know we 107 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: we bark Barkley has not had a good year compared 108 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: to last year. Last year he ran ran for over 109 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: two thousand yard. We held him to forty eight. 110 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 2: But the red zone failures were bad. 111 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: There was wentz through the interception for the Tuddy that 112 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: that that that went the other way. That was a 113 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: bad throw, the Hawkinson catch, and I know Hawkinson complained 114 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: about it, and I guess on the letter. 115 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:58,799 Speaker 2: Of the law, Tennaby, I don't know what you thought. 116 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: I I think it isn't incompletion though I've never understood 117 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: that rule. I to me, I've always said that you 118 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: and I have talked about this. If to me, if 119 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: the ball touches the ground, it all should be incomplete. 120 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 1: But that's not the rule. But it did look like 121 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: one he it touched, he rolled back over and bobbled 122 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: it a bit, and I guess I mean, Hankinson contends, 123 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: and he says the referees on the field insisted it 124 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: was a catch, but it's because they're going by what 125 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: they saw with the naked. 126 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:33,799 Speaker 3: Eye with a certain camera angle, and so that was bad. 127 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 2: And then that one when uh. 128 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: The center snapped it over went sh We just we 129 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: were one for was it one for five or one 130 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: for six in the redst We had to Yeah, we 131 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: had to settle for figures and just wasn't enough, and 132 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: a game that was right there to be had slips away, 133 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 1: and we went from an opportunity to be right near 134 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: the top of the NFC North, we're at rock bottom ring. 135 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: We're sitting at the bottom. 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Maybe 180 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: you have a couple in mind two that stand out 181 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: well for the the The pick six was bad, but 182 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: I don't even know if that was the most egregious 183 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: mistake by Wentz, the one that that. 184 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 2: I thought was. I still don't understand what he was thinking. 185 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 2: And this would be Wentz. 186 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: It's third quarter, second and eight from the Philadelphia nine, 187 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 1: and Wentz throws in complete and he's called for intentional grounding. 188 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: I don't know where he was. I mean, it was 189 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: so obvious he was gonna you just take the sack there. 190 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: But I don't know how he doesn't see C. J. 191 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 1: Hamm wide open out in the flat. Well. 192 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 3: Not only that, as Pete mentioned on the broadcast Pete 193 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 3: versus the Interior Decorator, when you get towards the end z, 194 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 3: they will never call intentionally grounding if you throw it 195 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 3: out the back of the end zone right exactly. So 196 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 3: like all you have to do is, once you realize 197 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 3: you don't know what you're gonna do here, you don't 198 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 3: have to just chuck to the ground. You just throw 199 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 3: it out the back of the end zone and we 200 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 3: don't lose any yardage. 201 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: So he's got Hamm wide open on the left side 202 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: and he just pushes it forward. 203 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 2: And then of course now. 204 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 1: We it's now you lose down distance and yardage. 205 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 2: It and a play. 206 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: It was just it was just a killer because on 207 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 1: the very next play, now it's third and eighteen from 208 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: the Philadelphia nineteen, we complete a short pass to Hawkinson, 209 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: but he can't break a tackle. 210 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 2: There's no yard after a catch. 211 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: I will contend the Hawkinson trade with Detroit was the 212 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: second worst trade this franchise has ever made. 213 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 2: The worst was, well, what they gave up for him. 214 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: They gave up a second and a third round pick 215 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: number fifty five and seventy three, and he's good, but 216 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: he's and then the Lions went and drafted Laporta, who 217 00:10:59,040 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. 218 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 2: Porta is a significant upgrade over Hawkinson. 219 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 1: I would say the herschel Walker trade was the worst. 220 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: I can't think of a worse trade. Then then then 221 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 1: then than the Hawk, would you? 222 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 2: Well, how about Randy Moss or the Raiders? Yeah, I 223 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 2: guess that would be number. 224 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 3: Especially when we turned that seven over our picking to 225 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 3: Troy Williamson. 226 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: Okay, you're right, maybe that was the worst, second worst, 227 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: But I I that that that I don't understand. 228 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 3: He had a couple just mind meltdowns. Right, how about 229 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 3: the the wonder way through the backward pass towards the sidelines. 230 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, that turned into like a seven eight hour loss. 231 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 3: Even his second interception, throwing the ball thirty forty yards down, 232 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 3: you know, across the body a little bit while you're 233 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 3: on the run. 234 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: Right, Despite all of that, someone said, pretty sure Hawk 235 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: was traded for a fourth and a fifth round pick. 236 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 2: No, he wasn't. He was traded for a second and 237 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 2: a third. There's definitely a second, and then there may 238 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 2: have been like a pick swappers and was the second 239 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 2: and the third? And I am the. 240 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: I'm the host of I worked for the worst all 241 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: sports radio stations in the country. I think I wouldn't 242 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 1: remember the trade second and the third one. 243 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 3: Well, the Viking sent a second round pick and a 244 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 3: third round pick to Detroit. We got Hawkinson a fourth 245 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 3: throne pick and a conditional pick in twenty twenty four. 246 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: Pick number fifty fifty five and seventy three Detroit Cup 247 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: for Hawkinson. Think what you could get at fifty five 248 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: and seventy three. And again, I like Hawkinson and he's 249 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: a good player. 250 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:43,719 Speaker 2: But man, anyway, well crazy's history drafting. I think I 251 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 2: read the TA Well, yeah, yeah, you're probably. 252 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: Right despite all you know. And Wentz made some plays too, 253 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: I mean, he's I know. 254 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 2: You know. I got a lot of pushback. 255 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: Last week when I suggested even if McCarthy's ready to play, 256 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: I keep going with with with Wentz until Wentz completely 257 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: melts down to the Vikings. As long as Wentz continues 258 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 1: to play relatively well in the Vikings. 259 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 2: Win football games, I would keep playing Wentz. 260 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 1: There were much of the pushback I got, we're from 261 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: fans were already giving up on the season, and maybe 262 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 1: you give up on it now at three and three, 263 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: sitting in the last place in the NFC North. 264 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 2: I would not give up yet. 265 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: It's not like we have been completely outclassed in We're 266 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: not the New York Jets. 267 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 2: Okay, that game was there to be had yesterday. 268 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: But despite all, Wentz made some really good plays too. 269 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: But really where I think the biggest play of the game, 270 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: and they usually are the ones that you know, even 271 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: though a play in the first quarter and a play 272 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarner can have as much effect on 273 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: a game. It's third and nine for Philadelphia. They're on 274 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 1: their own forty four. This is late in the fourth quarter, 275 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 1: right buck thirty five to go in the game. We 276 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: get a stop, we're down six, we can get the 277 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: ball back. We got one and I don't remember what 278 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: wasn't it our guy Rogers? 279 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 2: And who who made the the Aj Brown? 280 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: Was it Aj Brown who made the catch? Forty five 281 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: yard completion? How does that happen at that stage? Right there? 282 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: And again, as we talked about I mentioned earlier, I 283 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: think it was Saturday or Sunday. There was a big 284 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: spread on how much how good Rogers has been and 285 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: what a great acquisition he was, wasn't He's a good 286 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: player and thinks, you know, guys get burned. 287 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 2: They was burned a couple of times in that game. 288 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: That was twice and that was the second one, and 289 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: that he bit on an inside move and he was 290 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: wide and that was game. 291 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 2: You know, you could if you come up with a 292 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 2: stop there. 293 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: That's not to suggest that we win the game for sure, 294 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: but that we still had an opportunity with the minute 295 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: forty five minute thirty five to go in the game. 296 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 2: It was almost like the Eagles had the scouting report 297 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 2: on him. Yeah, yeah, maybe they'd they'd seen him. They'd 298 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 2: they'd seen him, and and and and that was that 299 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 2: was that. 300 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean there were there were plays and 301 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: turnovers in the inability to do anything in in the 302 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: red zone, and I and I realized, I mean again, 303 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: it seemed like the Eagles were we were right for 304 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: the taking, right because they had lost two games in 305 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: a row. 306 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 2: Hurts had not played well in those two games. 307 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: If I if if if if if I'm if I'm correct, 308 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: I don't think he was. I mean, Philadelph wasn't very 309 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: good at all. Obviously they lost two games in a row. 310 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: But Hurts was really good yesterday. I and you know, 311 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: even when we did apply pressure, he was able to 312 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: find a way to to make it a place to 313 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: get a perfect quarterback, right. I mean, I just I 314 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: expect more from the defense. I guess you know, I 315 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: don't know it was. It's a disappointing loss, for sure. McCarthy. 316 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: Everybody he insists on a short week he won't start 317 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: this week. I don't know how people feel about that. Again, 318 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: I know Wenz had his problems and he would look 319 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: at he was a large part of the reason that 320 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: they lost. 321 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 2: But I think there were the defense just they gave 322 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 2: up too many big plays. I don't know. 323 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: I it's disappointing, to say the least. Let's let's pause. 324 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: Come back, by the way, peek at the Purple brought 325 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: you by our friends at Affordable Electric for all of 326 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: your electrical needs and if you're looking for work. They 327 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: wanted an apprentice electrician and a journeyman electrician. 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Learn more and give the day at never 335 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 3: Shake mn dot com. 336 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 2: A couple thirteen fourteen past Common Man. 337 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: Program doing a little reminiscing in regards to the Vikings 338 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: loss yesterday to. 339 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 2: Twenty twenty two. 340 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: Was at the final we lose to the Philadelphia Eagles 341 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: at defending Big Game World Champions, fourth quarter, six thirty 342 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: five remaining right, Mike is put together a pretty good drive. 343 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 2: They started their own twenty eight and I'm looking at. 344 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: The the play by play provided by soon to be 345 00:17:55,359 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 1: Big Game World Champion Minnesota Vikings Media Department. Wentz completes 346 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 1: to Addison for seven yards. He completes another pass to 347 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: Addison for fourteen in the first down, incomplete to Jefferson, 348 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: incomplete to Feeland, and then Wentz scrambles for a first 349 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: down ten. 350 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 2: He did a couple of those. He found an opening. 351 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: He scrambles up the middle to the Philadelphia thirty five 352 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: for sixteen yards, then a couple of incompletions to Jefferson 353 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 1: and Hawkinson. Then he scrambles left tackle to Philadelphia twenty 354 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: three for twelve yards. We runs for back to back 355 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: first downs, incomplete deep right to Jefferson, short pass to 356 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: Addison to the Philadelphia fifteen for eight. Then it's the 357 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: completion to Hockinson for a tutty replay official they call 358 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: it back. Then the Vikings there's two fifty eight to 359 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: go Tennebee fourth and two Philadelphia fifteen. Wentz completes to 360 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 1: Addison to the Philadelphia ten five yards. 361 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 2: They get a. 362 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: First down, but then once again they fail in the 363 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 1: red zone. They Wentz is sacked, loses eight yards, short 364 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: completion to Hockinson to the Philadelphia eleven for seven, and 365 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: then incomplete to Naylor, and then the Vikings have to 366 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: kick the field going for the two minute warning. And 367 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: you know, hindsight's always twenty twenty. But you wonder if 368 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: once it all went wrong, should they have kicked the 369 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: They needed another score and they needed to score twice. 370 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: They were down nine, they had all three timeouts and 371 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 1: the two minute warning. Should they have kicked the figure 372 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: After the Hockinson play was called back and then tried 373 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: to stop Philadelphia. It's easy to second gas. At the time, 374 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: I didn't mind them. You might not get any closer 375 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 1: for the touchdown, right, so you go four it on 376 00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: fourth down, you get the first down. So that was 377 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: all good, but then you can't capitalize on it. They 378 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: were just so they were just so miserable in them 379 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: in the red zone. 380 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 3: It was just awful, right, Yeah, So it is easy 381 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 3: to look back afterwards, but even at the time, I 382 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 3: was like, it's just kick the field goal here, get 383 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 3: the one possession. 384 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 2: I think what happened after that was. 385 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 3: Kind of worst case scenario, and that not only did 386 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 3: you not score then half, you didn't score a touchdown. 387 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 3: After that point, you wasted a minute off the clock. 388 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 3: If they would have taken the field goal at that time, 389 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 3: I think they still had two fifty, which gives yourself 390 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 3: a chance that a Philadelphia gets a first down, you 391 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 3: still have a chance from a timeouts and two point 392 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 3: conversion and time standpoint to still you really reduce your 393 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 3: you eliminate your margin for air on the second part 394 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 3: of that. After you waste that minute off the clock 395 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 3: and you get on the wrong side of the two 396 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 3: min a warning. 397 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: So do you think See, I'm always you needed a 398 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 1: touddy and a field goal. And so if you're that 399 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: close and you decide to go for it, they did 400 00:20:58,359 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: pick up the first down. 401 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's why I can't really. I know there 402 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 2: are other people. 403 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: That think that that was a bad decision. They want 404 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: to throw the blame on O'Connell, and look, I know 405 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: O'Connell apologist, but I don't. 406 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 2: I want to get it as soon as I can. 407 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: But like you say, the worst case happened where they 408 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: burned off a whole minute off the clock and they 409 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: and then they. 410 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 3: Once you decide to go for it and you have 411 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 3: a fresh four new set of downs, you just got 412 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:24,959 Speaker 3: to be good. 413 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 2: You have to throw the ball the end zone. 414 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't be dinking and duncan and taking time 415 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 3: off the clock. 416 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 2: Yes, that's exactly right, and so. 417 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 3: It you know, but to your point that you know 418 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 3: a lot of the discussion has been on the Hawkinson 419 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 3: end of the catch. You gotta make that throw. I 420 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 3: mean he is wide opening the end zone. It's not 421 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 3: a precise dime you need to throw. You got to 422 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 3: make the throw. You missed the throw and I don't 423 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 3: know what Hawkinson is watching. Even a lot of people 424 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 3: just reaction on social media. I'm like, are you guys 425 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 3: watching the same rep I am, because it was pretty 426 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 3: clear he caught it originally hits the ground after he 427 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 3: rolls over. You can see that ball bobbles around. He 428 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 3: didn't have possession of it. So to me, that was 429 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 3: an easy overturn and I'm surprised others don't see it 430 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 3: that way. 431 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I well, I think part of that is they're 432 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: viewing it with purple colored glasses. That's what it is. 433 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: It's it's look to me, I said this in the 434 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: opening segment. I think if at any time, if any 435 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: part of the ball touches the ground, didn't that used. 436 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 2: To be incomplete or has that always been? 437 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: I always thought if the ball touched the ground, and 438 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: even if it just nicked it, to me, that's incomplete. 439 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: But because it's not, because if you cradle you get it. 440 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 3: Because so by the letter of the law, well, I 441 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 3: don't know how you would define like you would never 442 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 3: be able to make a diving catch. Ever, then in 443 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,239 Speaker 3: the history of the NFL, because it's going to touch 444 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 3: the ball, the ground's gonna touch the ball. The ball's 445 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 3: gonna touch the ground at some point on your way down. 446 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: Well, no way not if you get your hands under it. 447 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: You could still make a diving catch without the ball 448 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: touching the ground, can't you. 449 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 2: I have no problem with like I know. 450 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 3: I mean, we've gone through a lot with this type 451 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 3: of play over the last fifteen years. 452 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 2: I think your guy Megatron had one and again. 453 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: He caught it and he used it like to brace 454 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: himself in the in the end zone is what he did. 455 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: He caught it and as he was coming down, he 456 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 1: put it on the ground. I just think of any 457 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: if the ball touches the ground anytimes, you're being complete 458 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: pass and you eliminate any controversts. But because the rule 459 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 1: is the way it is, see, and that's where even 460 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 1: though he juggled it, see, I think the rule should 461 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: have been that should have been a catch. 462 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 2: But by the rule it's not. 463 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: Because of exactly what you said, he did not retain possession. 464 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 2: But he even though it touched the. 465 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: Ground and then he bobbled it when he came to rest, 466 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 1: he still had the football. 467 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 2: In his hands. To me, that's a catch. 468 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 1: I've never liked the rule of what what's determined to 469 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: catch or what's not? I think the NFL has it 470 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: all wrong, and I guess I must be in the 471 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: vast minority because I just think it's I think that 472 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: should I think it if it touches the ground should 473 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: be incomplete. But because if it touches the ground and 474 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,239 Speaker 1: you retain possession, and he had when he finally he 475 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: bobbled it, but when he came to rest, he had. 476 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 2: It, did he not? 477 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 3: How would you define then the way you like it? 478 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 3: If you have your ball under the hand right when 479 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 3: you're you're diving for catch, and your ball's under it, 480 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 3: but even like the nose of the football is hanging 481 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 3: outside of your hand and that part touches the ground. 482 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, incomplete this way, it's it's it's it's it's at 483 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: that post. 484 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 3: To me, if you've caught the ball and the ball 485 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 3: isn't moving around after you hit the ground, it. 486 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 2: Should be a catch. Okay, Yeah, I guess, I guess. 487 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 2: I guess you're right. I guess, and I get it. 488 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 3: Like there's a lot of gray area with this rule, 489 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 3: which is what all the consternation comes from. But to me, 490 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 3: on this one, I think it was pretty clear. After 491 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 3: he hit the ground, that ball bobbled around, and he 492 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 3: didn't have full possession of at that point. So after 493 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 3: it touches the ground and then you don't have possession 494 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 3: of it, before you regain possession, that's where it gets open. 495 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess, I guess that that that is the 496 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: way it's described. 497 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 3: And but if you hit the if you catch it, 498 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 3: ball hits the ground and it never moves from your 499 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 3: hands or even it stays in your possion whole time, 500 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 3: that should be a. 501 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 2: Catch to me. 502 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: But that was not the case in yesterday's it was not. 503 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: You're absolutely I think they got the right call. I 504 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 1: think I think they they got it right. 505 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 2: And so yeah, I don't know. 506 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: I I don't know how many times Once was sacked. 507 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 1: But the line is still a little leaky, right, I 508 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 1: don't know. We had an eel back Darris Saws there? 509 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: Did Jackson play? I don't even recall. Yeah, he played, 510 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: he played, I don't know. It was the center that 511 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 1: got the most issues, the one. 512 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 2: That we'd heard. Yeah, exactly, Yeah, No. 513 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 3: I think the penalty against him was a bad call. 514 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 3: That it was not a holding call. 515 00:25:58,880 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 2: That was a terrible call. 516 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 3: Ye see that bad snap now they got Lucky Riker 517 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 3: to save his bacon. On that one, he had to 518 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 3: kick a fifty nine yard field goal all of a sudden, 519 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 3: but he had he had a sack that killed the drive. 520 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 3: He had that long the bad snap that killed the drive. 521 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: Does Dallas Turner does he affect a game in any way, 522 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: shape or form other than negatively? 523 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 2: Did he do anyth you're. 524 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 3: Talking about bad trades earlier right now, the amount of 525 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:25,719 Speaker 3: draft picks they traded to go up and get him, 526 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 3: that don't look good. 527 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 2: No, And uh, he's a non factor. Yeah, he's been 528 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 2: a non factor for sure, a non factor. 529 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 1: And I don't know, I you know, it's you know, 530 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: I'm I'm getting I'm getting a text messages again on 531 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: the branch on Bryant came and text on people saying 532 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: it's over. Season's over, and it's like, well, have you 533 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: been watching the league? 534 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 2: They're really full. 535 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 1: It's it's it's actually someone. I mean, we're going to 536 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: do the NFL round up later. 537 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 2: I watched Denver put up thirty three. I watched that game. 538 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 1: We had both TV's going deuce and I had both 539 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: TV's going so I had the Packer Cardinal game on 540 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 1: and then I was going on CBS. They had Chargers Colts. 541 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,199 Speaker 1: We didn't need Danny Dimes. That guy can play football, man, 542 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: he's really good. He's who would have thought, Yeah, we 543 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: should have offered him the contract. 544 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 2: I guess that's what we should have done. 545 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 3: Anyways, all the quarterbacks we've passed on and this offseason 546 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,959 Speaker 3: involved done well. Yeah Danny Dimes Now technically technically he 547 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 3: I think turned down us. 548 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 2: Yeah. 549 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: Well that's because I think he knew he was not 550 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 1: going to be the starting quarterback. That I was like, no, 551 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: we're going with our handpick. Guy McCarthy. 552 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 3: Donald's been good and we'll see him again tonight. Yeah, 553 00:27:58,640 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 3: and Aaron Rodgers has been good. 554 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 555 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: But that that that Broncos Giants game, I don't suppose 556 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: you saw any of it. It was crazy. It's just 557 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: it was absolutely insane. I couldn't live I mean, that 558 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 1: was some National footballer you gray was like the most 559 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: points in the fourth quarter by any team in NFL 560 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 1: history that had no points going into the fourth quarter. 561 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 2: They scored thirty three points in the quarter. Uh, most 562 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 2: of it in the last five and a half minutes. Yeah, 563 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,479 Speaker 2: there was six and a half minutes to go. 564 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 1: I think when they started the come back, the dark 565 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: guy made the one bad throw. He threw the interception 566 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: that was that was critic Had he not done that, 567 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: who knows what happens. Of course, at the place kicker 568 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: for the Giants doesn't miss two extra points, that's that 569 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: that that game could have been totally different as well. 570 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 2: But that was insane. 571 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: So you look at the way the only team that 572 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: seems like it's writing there I do. It goes back 573 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: that it's just hard to beat Kansas City. It seems 574 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: like they're coming on. Yeah, I think they're coming on. 575 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: But I don't look at anybody in the in the NFC. 576 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: I mean, Rams are pretty good, but I don't think 577 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: Lions might be the best team. I don't know Tampa. 578 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 2: Tonight will be. Yeah, I a top ten. Yeah. I 579 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 2: think the. 580 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: Problem with again, if you're a Lions fan and I am, 581 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: and your secondary is beat up again, just like go 582 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: what you know their defense was was was decimated last year. 583 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: Their secondary is is in in in shambles now. And 584 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: then the branch clown gets the pass so he's out 585 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: on a suspension on an injury. 586 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 2: He suspends. 587 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: They need him, he's he's one of their better defensive 588 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: players he's out, and with the way Mayfield has been playing, 589 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: I I. 590 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 2: I think Detroit could be in trouble tonight. I think 591 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 2: Tampa Bay is going to go to six and one. 592 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 2: They're five, you know, I think they're going to go 593 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 2: to six and one. I think I think Tampa looks 594 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 2: really good. 595 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: So but yeah, I if you're the vite, you don't 596 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: give up on the season yet, that'd be that'd be 597 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: that'd be foolish. 598 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 2: But there are people that think the season is I 599 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 2: get it. 600 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: You know, it's that you've been a fan of the 601 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: Purple for for your entire life. 602 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean we know the history. 603 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: You know, the lack of success in big games and 604 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: NFC Championship games the last six times. 605 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 2: It's it's you're always you're expecting the worst, right, But. 606 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, Chargers aren't he They're okay. 607 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 2: That's the thing. 608 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 3: The entire league is a bunch of okay teams, right, 609 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 3: I mean the Chargers of the first three weeks. I 610 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 3: remember watching Herbert against Kansas City Week one, going, this 611 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 3: is a new justin Herbert. 612 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: Well, you and I were saying that finally we you know, 613 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: big things have been predicted for the Chargers every year 614 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: for the past three, four or five years, and now 615 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: you and I've always doubted it. This was the year 616 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: after the start to their season with them. Maybe this 617 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: is the year that they put it all together. They 618 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: they they were they were rolled by by by the 619 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: Colts yesterday. 620 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 2: I just don't think they're that well. 621 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 3: And if you want to talk about elite teams in 622 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 3: the National Football League, I guess we all had preconceived 623 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 3: notions of what the Indianapolis Colts are going to be. 624 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 3: So I think we've all been late to the party 625 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 3: and wanting to annoint them one of the top teams. 626 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 3: But at this point, you know, the teams are beating 627 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 3: and how and even when they've had a poor schedule, 628 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 3: they're just absolutely steamrolling some teams. Their offense can't be stopped. 629 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 3: At some point we have to go out, Maybe the 630 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 3: Indianapolis Colts are one of the best teams in football. 631 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: I think maybe they are. I think maybe that here's 632 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: one right here. This text message says Chargers Ravens kiddies. 633 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: All lost is three and six. The season's over. What 634 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: happened to tough Love? Well, nothing happened. What is he 635 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: talking about? Tough I don't know what the tough love right, 636 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: this is the tough love covenant. But I don't think 637 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: the season's over. That has nothing to do with being 638 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: declaring the season over at this time. That nothing to 639 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: do with tough love. I don't even know what he's 640 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: with the point he's trying to make. Do I think 641 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: the Vikings are gonna win the big game? No, but 642 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: you don't give up on the season. It's the craziness. 643 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 3: There are those they weren't that far off, And every 644 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 3: NFL team can say this, they were not so far 645 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 3: beyond the Philadelphia Eagles yesterday or they couldn't win that. 646 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 3: They could have easily won that game. In fact, you 647 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 3: could argue a tight moments they were the better team 648 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 3: in that game that it seemed like they shot themselves 649 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 3: in the foot more often than Philadelphia stopped them. They 650 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 3: could move the ball at will yesterday. 651 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 2: Absolutely, Yeah, it's here. Here's another. We're not going to 652 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 2: the big game with Wentz. They need to put the 653 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 2: kid in the final. 654 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: What we've got they keeps everybody keeps saying, we've got 655 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: to put the kid in the final. What we've got, No, 656 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: we don't. There's no rush to put him in to 657 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: find out what we got. If the Vikings lose the 658 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: next three and go three and six, then put the 659 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: kid in because it is over. But at this point 660 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: it's not they can They can be. The Vikings still 661 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: have enough talent. They can beat the Chargers, the Ravens 662 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: and the Kid. They can beat all three of Listeners. 663 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: They could lose to all three as well. I get it. 664 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 3: I still think that that's and I know they don't 665 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 3: want to admit it. I still think McCarthy it's a 666 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 3: soft bench is what they call it, like, it's not 667 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 3: a full out. 668 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 2: Hey, we're benching him. 669 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 3: I still think he's gonna let him sit down, right 670 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 3: because right now the argument is, well, once he's one 671 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 3: hundred percent healthy, then. 672 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 2: Then I guess we'll talk. 673 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, there are quarterbacks in this league that are playing 674 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 3: not on Carson Wentz isn't a hundred percent healthy. He's 675 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 3: got to beat up shoulder Pat Mahomes. And I get it, 676 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 3: this is Mahomes compared to to JJ McCarthy. But Pat 677 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 3: Mahomes has played through ankle sprains before. Right, if if 678 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 3: they really thought, hey, McCarthy can play right now. If 679 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 3: he needed to play, they had him as the emergency quarterback. Yeah, 680 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 3: I think it's partially Hey, let's let's get once to look. 681 00:33:58,520 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 2: And I was all for that. 682 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 3: I would have even wants a look against Philadelphia didn't 683 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 3: look great. I didn't think it was awful, but he 684 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 3: had some really really bad moments in that game. 685 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 2: And you take a. 686 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 3: Game by game with Wentz and if you want to 687 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 3: move on to McCarthy this week, I would be fine 688 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 3: with that, but I'm not. I'm not in the moat 689 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 3: of well, we've got to take a look at what 690 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 3: we got. Well, there's plenty of time to do that, 691 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 3: and I think that's the point you want to agree. 692 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 1: If they announced today, McCarthy was starting to say, okay, great, 693 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: play them. 694 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,399 Speaker 2: Yes, but I don't think that. 695 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: This one says I'd rather see the kid because I 696 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 1: think he gives us a better chance to win football games. 697 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 2: I believe that's all fine and good. I quite right. 698 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:40,399 Speaker 2: It might be right. 699 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: From what I've seen, and it's only been two games. 700 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 1: I would say no, I think he would have been 701 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 1: lost yesterday, but maybe not. 702 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 2: You know, he did at that one great quarter. 703 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,479 Speaker 1: I think people put a lot into that one quarter 704 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,919 Speaker 1: or two against Was that the Bears for the fault 705 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,399 Speaker 1: because it was a Bears right. We had the one 706 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,280 Speaker 1: great quarter, the fourth quarter where he threw three touchdown passes. 707 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people with a lot of 708 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 1: stock on that, maybe they should. 709 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 3: I still think if the Vikings believed that JJ McCarthy 710 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 3: gave them the better, it gave them the best chance 711 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 3: to win that even at I with an ankle, that's 712 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 3: not one hundred percent. 713 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 2: He's out there in the fields. 714 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,879 Speaker 1: I absolutely with you there, and so I think that's 715 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: what they what they think. 716 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 2: It is. 717 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: It's I mean it is You're seeing all over the 718 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: league young quarterbacks playing well. Uh who's the kid for 719 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 1: San fran mac Jones? 720 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 2: That is his name? Is it Mac? He's playing pretty well. 721 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 2: That's the quarterback whister? Yeah, yeah, that is. Drake May 722 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 2: looks fantastic. Drake May looks great. The dark kid, he 723 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 2: looks great, looks really good too. 724 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: There's There's a lot of you how about bow knicks 725 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: for for Denver. He was brilliant yesterday in that fourth quarter. 726 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: There's a lot of good young quarterbacks, so I understand that. 727 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 2: But even bo Nix is like four years older than J. J. McCarthy. 728 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,879 Speaker 1: I understand that people are anxious to see what we 729 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: have in McCarthy, and there are those that they look 730 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: at the makeup of this. My only argument to it 731 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 1: because if you want to, if you if you want 732 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 1: to consider this tough love, you could say, maybe the 733 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 1: Vikings defense isn't as good as I thought they would 734 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 1: be when they acquired those two inside guys. 735 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:27,879 Speaker 2: M hard Grave And was it Jonathan wa Jonathan, Yeah, 736 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 2: it was his name? Is that right, Jonathan Waite? Jonathan Allen? 737 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 2: Isn't it Jonathan? Sorry, Jonathan jo. 738 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 1: Because yesterday the defense had just as much to do 739 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: with that loss is going one for six in the 740 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: red zone. 741 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. They didn't get them, they 742 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 2: they they let they let them. 743 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,240 Speaker 1: They didn't get enough pressure on Hurts and they didn't 744 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: cover and so and all I've been told by you know, 745 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: I will go back to Donnatel. 746 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 2: He was an awful defensive coordinator. 747 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 1: Now we got Flora's there, We were supposed to sign 748 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: him to a lifetime deal because and I'm not blaming 749 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 1: it at all on Flora's. I'm the reason I always 750 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: push back on that quarterback Whisper and the Flora stuff 751 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: is because people want to believe that these guys are 752 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 1: They're Lombardi like and they're both really good coaches. 753 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:31,399 Speaker 2: You can't deny it. But I don't think because so much. 754 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 2: They can only do so much. He can't go out. 755 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: There and and and and cover the receivers. He can't 756 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 1: apply a pass rush, and the quarterback can't throw the 757 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:47,479 Speaker 1: ball for for the quarterback. So even did you see 758 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 1: you did? How did you watch any of the Packer game? 759 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,760 Speaker 2: I watched parts of it yesterday. Jakobe Brissett looked pretty 760 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 2: good yesterday. Did you see before? Yeah? I mean. 761 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,399 Speaker 1: It's like, but I don't know. We we just can't 762 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,320 Speaker 1: seem to find our quarterback. And I think that people 763 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: are anxious to see McCarthy. They see the success of 764 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,840 Speaker 1: other kids around the league. They see the bow Nixeses 765 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 1: of the world, they see the the uh J Jaylen 766 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 1: Janiels all they see these guys and they think that 767 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 1: Will Williams, Yeah, let's see our guy. And there'll be 768 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:22,319 Speaker 1: plenty of times. 769 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 2: It's because J. J. McCarthy brings hope. They like, they 770 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 2: like buying that hope. That's exactly let's take a break, 771 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 2: come back. Remember, no coach today, He'll do his day 772 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 2: after the game. Newest conference two days after the game. 773 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 2: Did you say it was one fifteen? Schedule for tomorrow fifteen, 774 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,720 Speaker 2: So we start at once the PJ. Fleck Show. Speaking 775 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 2: of that, we'll talk over football. I we'll talk about 776 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 2: it next. 777 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,359 Speaker 1: That's a tailor to UH to two weekends. As bad 778 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: as they looked last week, even if they beat. 779 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 2: Perdue, they looked awful. 780 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 1: They were really good against Nebraska, but plenty more to 781 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:54,399 Speaker 1: get to here on the Common Man Program. 782 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, Tenem, you have a tease. Correct. 783 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 2: We got quite the predictament tonight.