1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: A M six forty. 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 2: Well, it's time for a little tear like Deer and. 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: Roger get off my plane, Roderick Rogers's vector Victor, I 5 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: have had with these mucky pipe snakes on this money. 6 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: It's Gary and Shannon's Terror in the Skies on KFI. 7 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 2: I've traveled with you to a small degree. I don't 8 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 2: think I've ever seen you check a bag. 9 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 3: I'm not a checker of bags, even if I travel 10 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 3: internationally ten days something like that. I I check my bag, 11 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 3: I re wear my clothes. I pack light. I don't 12 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 3: pack outfits. A lot of women pack outfits. I do not. 13 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 2: You don't care about options. 14 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 3: I'm a layers person. 15 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: I am layers. 16 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 3: I do not to bring looks. Shall we say I 17 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 3: did start that way. I did start that way, and 18 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 3: I learned that that is a very inefficient and uncomfortable. 19 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 2: Way to travel. I do remember we were in Philadelphia. 20 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: That was the second week of travel. We'd gone to 21 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: Cleveland for the Republican Convention. We went to Philly for 22 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 2: the Democrat Convention. This is back in twenty sixteen, and 23 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 2: you were going from a week in Philly to a 24 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: weekend in Tahoe. You were flying directly there. Yeah, and 25 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 2: you didn't have two bags. 26 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 3: No, I mean and to the point, I was going 27 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 3: to Tahoe. All you need in Tahoe or shorts and 28 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 3: t shirt. 29 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 2: True, it was August, so it wasn't like it you 30 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 2: needed thick jacket or anything like that. Yeah, but I'm 31 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: a person who rarely brings a carry on. I'll bring 32 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 2: a backpack or something like that that's got a book 33 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 2: in it, or my computer or something like that, but 34 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 2: I won't. I very rarely put stuff in the overhead 35 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 2: just because I feel like that's such a I'm going 36 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: to drop that on someone's head pretty consistently. 37 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 3: Fail you're not. 38 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I probably would. 39 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 3: You have a modicum of upper body strength, I'm assuming. 40 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate that. So welcome notice. But this idea. 41 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: People tried to avoid checking luggage for a long time 42 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 2: because it was American Airlines that first introduced a fee 43 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 2: for the checked bags among major American airlines. That was 44 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: back in two thousand and eight, and really Southwest was 45 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 2: probably the last, it looks like, to introduce some sort 46 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 2: of checked bag fee. Now there's ways you can get 47 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 2: around it. If you belong to their Super Diamond Travel 48 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 2: Triple Club or whatever it is, you could probably get 49 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 2: out of a baggage fee, or you get two bags 50 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: for the price of one, or if you open a 51 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 2: credit card with through the airline, maybe you get those 52 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: bag fees waved or something like that. 53 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 3: They say that it's becoming more popular for a couple reasons. 54 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 3: Number one to your point, airline credit cards have become 55 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 3: more popular, so they have the checked bag fees waived. 56 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 3: At some airlines, less than half the passengers check bags, 57 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 3: but the ones who do less than half actually pay 58 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 3: the fee. On top of that, more travelers just expect 59 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 3: to pay them. Older people who did not get charged 60 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 3: for bags. You're like, I'm not paying them to check 61 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 3: my bag. I'll fit it all up here. But they 62 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 3: said that gen Z and gen Alpha travelers much more 63 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 3: likely to just expect to pay the fee. 64 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: They just know it's part of it. 65 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 3: They just know it's part of it. They expect to 66 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 3: be charged every nicol and dimed at every turn. 67 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 2: When Avello started flying out a burbank, they were doing 68 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: flights for thirty nine forty nine dollars to different places 69 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 2: around Western United States, and then they would also charge 70 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: you for bags in a lot of cases, so what 71 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: was what seemed like an incredible discount ticket ended up 72 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: being pretty comparable to other flights from other airlines. There 73 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 2: was also an article yesterday from the La Times. A 74 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 2: writer named Shelby Grad who back on the twenty fifth 75 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 2: of January, is sitting at sac International Airport, Sacramento, and 76 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: she leans back. She says, just waiting for a plane 77 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 2: another forty minutes or so before it arrives, and a 78 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 2: Southwest Airlines agent approached her and asked to see her ticket, 79 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 2: and she smiled. She writes, Shelby did, knowing what was 80 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 2: about to happen before I handed over my ticket, and 81 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 2: the Southwest agent said, quote, We're going to have to 82 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 2: get you a second seat. You don't have to get up. 83 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 2: I'll take care of everything for you. Shelby then goes 84 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 2: on this story about she's obviously a big person and 85 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 2: has had to do this plenty of times before. Couple 86 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 2: decades ago, she said she was four hundred and sixty 87 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 2: five pounds when a Southwest agent stopped her from boarding 88 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 2: at Burbank and demanded her credit card so she could 89 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 2: charge for a second seat, and she said a few 90 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 2: years later she mistakenly picked a premium seat with fixed 91 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 2: armrests that wasn't going to raise up and give her 92 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 2: more room, so the seat mate demanded to move the 93 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 2: one sitting next to her because a flight and a 94 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 2: flight attendant came and whisked them away. The only way 95 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 2: that she got to a wedding in Istanbul was to 96 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 2: sit precariously on top of the carry on bag. She 97 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 2: said the most uncomfortable ten hours of her life. And 98 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 2: on the return British Airways, the airline that was flying her, 99 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 2: demanded or determined that in fact, she needed two extra 100 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 2: seats because she was almost five hundred pounds. So she 101 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 2: talks about having it become a pretty regular occurrence that 102 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 2: she would buy extra seat at least one. Then she 103 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 2: had gastric bypass. She's down about three twenty five, and 104 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 2: continued buying the extra seat, realizing maybe she didn't need it. 105 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 2: She said Southwest, the reason that she even wrote the 106 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 2: article was this was before Southwest ditched its open cattle 107 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 2: call seating. It was back on January twenty fifth. She 108 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 2: said that the Southwest attendant gate agent was fantastic, never 109 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 2: actually charged her for that second seat because the plane 110 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 2: was only half full, and she goes on to talk 111 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 2: about how the time the stop from an airline seat 112 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: cop was what she said, would have filled her with 113 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 2: shame and rage. Mostly she would have been upset with herself, 114 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 2: but she said she was always vowing to go on 115 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 2: another diet, never fly again until she could fit into 116 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 2: the seat so and then or drive on I five 117 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 2: because she could stretch out in her own car. It's 118 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 2: just an interesting look at the life of a big 119 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 2: person getting onto it airplane knowing that you're going to 120 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 2: have to get two seats, and if you didn't, then 121 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 2: you're going to have to have the awkward interaction with 122 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 2: what she said was the seat cop from the airline. 123 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 2: The Nark, The Nark. 124 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI 125 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: AM six forty