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Speaker 2: Good Afternoon, Happy Monday.

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Speaker 3: always Skyline time. Welcome in the start of a new week.

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Speaker 3: Bengals football is back this week, coming off of bye

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Speaker 3: for the Bengals, coming off of bye for the Cincinnati Bearcats.

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Speaker 3: A huge week ahead. The Bengals would take on the

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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers. Man that team stinks. That was fun to

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Speaker 3: watch Last night, The Steelers absolutely stink. That's the Bengals

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Speaker 3: opponent on Sunday right now. Pittsburgh a five and a

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Speaker 3: half point favorite, and the Bearcats were back in action

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Speaker 3: against the Arizona Wildcats on Saturday at noon at historic

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Speaker 3: Nippert Stadium. And thanks to the Orangeine Blue, FC Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: and their comeback victory over Columbus, FC Cincinnati has advanced

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Speaker 3: to take on Lionel Messi's inter Miami squad. That match

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Speaker 3: will happen on November twenty third.

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Speaker 4: I think, technically because of what FC Cincinnati did over

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Speaker 4: the weekend makes this a victory Monday, Wow, doesn't it.

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Speaker 2: I think if you beat an arch rival in the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: If you pair that with watching a football rival get

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Speaker 3: their doors beat in last night, it feels it's a

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Speaker 3: good Monday. Yeah, Pittsburgh stinks. FC Cincinnati is good. Cleveland

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Speaker 3: lost again lost. Bengals aren't the only team to lose

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Speaker 3: to the Jets. Here we go, let's go. Things are

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Speaker 3: starting to look up. Second half of the NFL season

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Speaker 3: coming up for the Bengals. Playoff hopes still alive, albeit

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Speaker 3: slight playoff hopes. But congratulations to FC Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: It felt.

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Speaker 3: Worrisome at times Austin watching that match on Saturday night,

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Speaker 3: especially in the second half when Columbus scored in the

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Speaker 3: sixty third minute and you thought, oh boy, here we

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Speaker 3: go again. And then thanks to the one they call Brenner,

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Speaker 3: an equalizer in the sixty seventh minute, a goal to

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Speaker 3: put them ahead in the eighty six minute, and then

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Speaker 3: Austin the longest nine minutes I can remember in recent history.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, nine minutes of stoppage time on Saturday night.

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Speaker 3: FC Cincinnati holds on and they will get inter Miami.

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Speaker 3: Now that Austin is also part of a little bit

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Speaker 3: of a Cincinnati doubleheader. Bengals Patriots are at one o'clock

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Speaker 3: and then that game is going to be at five

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I feel like this happened last year during the playoffs

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Speaker 4: FC Cincinnati and a Bengals home game both happening same day,

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Speaker 4: just a few hours apart. So that could be a

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Speaker 4: hell of a double header. I don't know what the

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Speaker 4: weather's going to look like, but could be a hell

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Speaker 2: Watch what it's going to be like today.

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Speaker 3: We have snow on the ground today, and then I

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Speaker 2: Did you know that it was going to snow today.

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Speaker 3: I knew that there was like a chance of a

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Speaker 4: to snow and continued to snow. And now we have

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Speaker 3: It's the bye week edition of the Tony and Mo

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Speaker 3: Football Show at Twin Peaks in Westchester that happens at

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Speaker 3: three o'clock this afternoon. Until six. We've got a lot

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Speaker 3: that is a five and a half point spread, and

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Speaker 3: so much more going on in the world of sports.

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Speaker 3: Brian Kelly, former Cincinnati coach, rejected his buyout. He is

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Speaker 3: seeking fifty four million from LSU. A pair of Guardians

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Speaker 3: I understand. Any time indictments come down for pitch rigging.

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Speaker 3: Emmanuel class that's correct charged with fraud, conspiracy, and bribery

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Speaker 4: Basically had to do with a handful of pitches that

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Speaker 4: and you know it happened multiple times, but you know, basically,

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Speaker 4: don't think that's worth it. It ain't worth it. Bulls

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Speaker 4: Here's something you need to know about the Bulls, okay,

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Speaker 2: Yep. When we lose. Basketball season doesn't start until February, smart.

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Speaker 3: Well said, yeah, you see basketball gets by Georgia State

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Speaker 3: Saint John's was a fun one. On Saturday, Arkansas, Michigan

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Speaker 3: And if you've watched the bad blood already spilling over Austin,

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Speaker 3: do our talking on Tuesday, okay. So a little more fire.

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Speaker 3: I feel like gasoline thrown onto this rivalry.

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Speaker 4: Correct me if I'm wrong here, but that feels to

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Speaker 4: otherwise not. I mean, there's a handful of good games

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Speaker 4: on Tuesday, multiple ranked matchups, Creighton and Gonzaga, Texas Tech

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Speaker 4: Illinois by the way, how about Texas Tech basketball and

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Speaker 4: maybe from a college basketball standpoint, was North Carolina given

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I did not expect that. Yeah, you mentioned it, so

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Speaker 4: No, But I don't know that it was unexpected. They just,

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Speaker 4: for whatever reason, Ohio State never plays well in that building.

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Speaker 4: Every game looks the exact same every time they go

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Speaker 3: Indiana needed late game heroics by Omar Cooper Junior, one

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Speaker 3: You told me today Luke Fickle got rid of the

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Speaker 2: Maybe they bought him a new hoodie.

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Speaker 4: Oh got rid of the team on the back and

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Speaker 4: And I believe, if I'm not mistaken, you have to

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Speaker 2: That was going to happen.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I've never been a believer in Wisconsin or not Wisconsin.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you this.

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Speaker 3: I I was told last year Austin, you see went

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Speaker 3: facilities are amazing, the ability. I read an article over

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Speaker 3: seven million dollars.

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Speaker 2: Wow, they are.

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Speaker 3: They are going to be able to spend the money,

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Speaker 2: They have a massive contract with Adidas as well. Yep.

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Speaker 4: And couple that with the Patrick Mahomes factor, the deep

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Speaker 3: Later slate, How about the Buccaneers and Patriots yesterday fun game.

436
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Speaker 3: Travon Henderson fourteen carries for a buck forty seven and

437
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Speaker 3: two touchdowns, a mechag Buca six catches for one point

438
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Speaker 3: fifteen and a touchdown. Where to school? They were both

439
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 3: Ohio State Buckeyes. To me, though, it's the continued play

440
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Speaker 3: of Drake may and the confidence in which this New

441
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Speaker 3: England Patriots team is playing with. And I say that

442
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 3: the play of may Baker Mayfield was good yesterday to

443
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 3: twenty eight to forty three for three touchdowns. That's that's

444
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,879
Speaker 3: not a whole hum day. He spread the ball out nicely.

445
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 3: Tess Johnson is turning into a stud for Tampa Bay

446
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 3: as well. They've got so many options. We're not even

447
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 3: talking about Chris Godwin or Mike Evans right now. That's

448
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 3: how good that receiving corps has been. But my goodness,

449
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 3: what New England is doing, what Mike Vrabel is putting in.

450
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,679
Speaker 3: They go on the road to a good team in Tampa,

451
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Speaker 3: find a way to get a win, and they're doing so.

452
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Speaker 3: Mac Collins with one oh six yesterday in the year

453
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Speaker 3: Kyle Williams Stefon Diggs to Mario Doug I mean they are.

454
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Speaker 3: It's a good football team. It's a well rounded football team,

455
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Speaker 3: and I feel like I'm more impressed week after week

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Speaker 3: by the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, we talked a lot about the Patriots

458
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Speaker 4: this offseason. I was very high on them, and one

459
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Speaker 4: of the reasons was, Hey, I love Mike Crabland be

460
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 4: that schedule was really easy. But they really other than

461
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Speaker 4: Week one against the Raiders, haven't screwed up any of

462
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Speaker 4: those games that they were supposed to win. Now, the

463
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Speaker 4: Steelers game, they turned it over five times. They still

464
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Speaker 4: only lost by a touchdown. But they crushed Carolina. They

465
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Speaker 4: beat Buffalo on the road, they beat the Saints in

466
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Speaker 4: the Dome, they beat Tennessee on the road. That was

467
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Speaker 4: a stretch of three straight road games. By the way,

468
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Speaker 4: They've taken care of business against the Browns, they took

469
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Speaker 4: care of business against the Falcons. And to go on

470
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Speaker 4: the road and get a playoff caliber victory over the

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Speaker 4: Tampa Bay Buccaneers, I think that answers some questions about

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Speaker 4: the Patriots and legitimacy.

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Speaker 3: Jets, Bengals, Giants their next three. Yeah, I mean that's

474
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Speaker 3: a chance to get to eleven and two. I think

475
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Speaker 3: it's a very real possibility that the number one seed

476
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Speaker 3: in the AFC is the.

477
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Speaker 2: New England Patriots. They got it right with Will Campbell.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's gonna be the It's gonna be the Patriots,

479
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Speaker 4: the Colts, and the Broncos.

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Speaker 2: I guess play for that.

481
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Speaker 4: And when I think of those three, I mean, I

482
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Speaker 4: like what I've seen from the Colts, but I just

483
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Speaker 4: feel like based off the schedule yea, and the way

484
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Speaker 4: their defense is playing. Yesterday was the first time they

485
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 4: allowed a fifty plus yard rusher all season. Were the

486
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Speaker 4: Patriots and it was Sean Tucker. So for me, you know,

487
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Speaker 4: I think Patriots can be the number one seed in

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Speaker 4: the AFC.

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Speaker 3: I look at it now as well, Austin, and I

490
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Speaker 3: think if the AFC as a whole and you think of, okay,

491
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Speaker 3: you still have your major players, right, and if you're

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Speaker 3: talking about you know where the AFC, Buffalo is still

493
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Speaker 3: a player, Baltimore as a player. You hope the Bengals

494
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Speaker 3: can get back to that level. You don't really know

495
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Speaker 3: about Pittsburgh now. The Colts are a player, the Broncos

496
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Speaker 3: are a player, the Chiefs, the Chargers, like there are

497
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Speaker 3: just a lot more teams at the table now in

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Speaker 3: the AFC that don't make this year difficult, they make

499
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Speaker 3: the following years more difficult to get a seat at

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Speaker 3: that playoff table as well. Yeah, some other noteworthy games

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Speaker 3: that happened later on yesterday. Not really much to say

502
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Speaker 3: about the Saints and Panthers, although the Panthers. Panthers did

503
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Speaker 3: so much to get themselves in a good position at

504
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Speaker 3: five and four and then just a terrible loss at

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Speaker 3: home to the Saints seventeen to seven.

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Speaker 4: I actually saw a decent amount of this game, and

507
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Speaker 4: call me crazy for watching it, but Tyler Shuck looked

508
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Speaker 4: good yes, and especially I know you can appreciate this

509
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,719
Speaker 4: as well, his ability to move within the pocket and

510
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 4: just create a little bit of space, create that extra

511
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Speaker 4: second and get the ball out.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 4: I know they didn't put up crazy numbers on offense,

514
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Speaker 4: but they found a way to win. And for a

515
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Speaker 4: young guy that's developing, I was impressed by Tyler Shuck yesterday.

516
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 4: And always good to see Chris o'lave, who's dealt with

517
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Speaker 4: the rash of just tough injuries.

518
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Speaker 2: Remind everybody's still pretty good.

519
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 3: The Texans and Davis Mills put up twenty six in

520
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Speaker 3: the fourth quarter to come back and beat the Jacksonville

521
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Speaker 3: Jaguars thirty six twenty nine. What a debilitating loss for

522
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Speaker 3: the Jags. Just bad on so many accounts this game.

523
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Speaker 4: I thought it was over, I mean over over, and

524
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Speaker 4: for that to happen the way that it did, I

525
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 4: think there are serious questions. I mean, I'm sure they're

526
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Speaker 4: talking it on their shows down in Jacksonville right now.

527
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 4: Is Trevor Lawrence the guy? And if he's not, how

528
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:12,959
Speaker 4: do you fix it? Because he just he's he doesn't

529
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 4: go out and win games for you. Thirteen for twenty

530
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,479
Speaker 4: three yesterday one hundred and fifty eight yards yea. And

531
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 4: they've you know, they don't have a ton of great weapons.

532
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 4: They just traded for Jacobe Myers. Obviously Brian Thomas Junior

533
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 4: was hurt yesterday. That's going to have an impact. But

534
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 4: I mean they got some dudes that can flat out play.

535
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 4: Parker Washington's one of the most impressive players in the NFL.

536
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Speaker 4: I just don't feel like Trevor Lawrence puts them over

537
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 4: the top. And I don't know how they fixed that

538
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 4: sooner rather than later, And I thought they would. I mean,

539
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Speaker 4: I really did, like we talked. I was very high

540
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 4: on the Jags this year. I'm confused by Trevor Lawrence.

541
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Speaker 3: It took only twelve pass attempts in the game for

542
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Speaker 3: Sam Darnold ten of twelve for a Bucks seventy eight.

543
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 3: That's all they needed. They got two defensive Touchestowns in

544
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 3: the first half. It was thirty eight to seven at halftime.

545
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 3: Seattle is a train right now. They beat up on

546
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Speaker 3: Jacoby Brissett yesterday. They got nothing going outside of Trey

547
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 3: McBride and Arizona Man, but Cooper Cup, Jackson Smith and Jigba.

548
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 3: They went out and got Rashid Shaheed. They've got a

549
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 3: nice duo at back, and Charbonay and Kenneth Walker and

550
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 3: Sam Donold playing at a whole nother level. I think

551
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 3: Seattle's a Super Bowl contender.

552
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Speaker 4: Their defense is legit, man, and anytime you're gonna play

553
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 4: home games at that environment, you have a chance to

554
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 4: win just because of the twelfth Man. And I said

555
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 4: it yesterday. The NFC playoffs, I mean they are going

556
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 4: to be awesome, yep. Because it doesn't matter if it's

557
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 4: whoever wins that division, the Rams or the Seahawks. Both

558
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 4: those teams are really good. Detroit flexed yesterday, Green Bay

559
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 4: and Philly tonight is a preview of a game that

560
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 4: very well could happen in the first round. Everybody's still

561
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 4: high on Tampa. Chicago has something to say about all this.

562
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Speaker 4: San Francisco is not dead like those are all really

563
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 4: good teams.

564
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Speaker 3: You mentioned it was in a loss. Mac Jones was

565
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 3: thirty three to thirty nine yesterday. Yeah, he's playing so well.

566
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 3: I thought yesterday was more about the Rams. Rams put

567
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 3: up forty two. Stafford is playing at a ridiculous level.

568
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 3: Davante Adams is fitting in perfectly with them, Pukinakua is

569
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 3: a stud Kyraen Williams and now Blake Korum starting to

570
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 3: get some carries, starting to have some production for them.

571
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 3: The Rams blow out the San Francisco forty nine ers

572
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 3: forty two to twenty six.

573
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Speaker 2: Not find the theme in the late games yesterday?

574
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a good chance for you to go

575
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 4: and get some stuff done around the house. What are

576
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 4: you during those games? But I will say this about

577
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 4: Sanfords or about the Rams if I'm not mistaken. Stafford

578
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 4: three straight games, four touchdowns, no picks. Yep, that's like

579
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 4: the first time that's ever happened for a quarterback. He's

580
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 4: playing as good as he ever has. Yeah, now in

581
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 4: his career, did you see this stat? He is one

582
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Speaker 4: hundred and fifteen one hundred and fifteen and one over

583
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Speaker 4: the course of his career as a starting quarterback.

584
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Speaker 2: Not bad.

585
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 3: Now, his former team, the Lions, also went late yesterday.

586
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 3: They put up forty four in a win. Jared Goff

587
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 3: was fantastic. Jamiir Gibbs awesome, Jamison Williams, Amen ros Saint Brown.

588
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 3: They beat you in so many different ways. But what

589
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 3: I thought was interesting yesterday Austin Detroit loses that game

590
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 3: to the Vikings, and they come out of that and

591
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, it's Dan Campbell calling the place

592
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 3: you want to talk about a team that moves with urgency.

593
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 3: They don't wait for things to sputter. They take care

594
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 3: of it. They nip in the butt when they need to.

595
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 3: Dan Campbell calls plays, They dominate the Commanders. Feels like

596
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 3: the Lions are in a really good place. And what

597
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 3: you talked about is that loaded NFC. Finally, last, but

598
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 3: not least, what do you make of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

599
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 2: They're just not very good.

600
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Speaker 3: I just I don't get them because they have one

601
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 3: of the best wins of the season by beating the Colts,

602
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Speaker 3: and then they follow that up with this sleep walk

603
00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 3: performance against the Chargers. The Steelers, dating back to the

604
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 3: Bengals loss, have now lost three out of four. The

605
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 3: lone winner is against the Colts. I don't even know.

606
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 3: Last night Rogers was terrible. It wasn't like Herbert was great,

607
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 3: but it's just I just don't see it right now

608
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 3: with the Pittsburgh Steelers, that's a good win for the Chargers.

609
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 3: I just feel bad for the Chargers Austin because if

610
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 3: Joe Alton and Shawn Slater are healthy, they're probably a contender.

611
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,719
Speaker 3: I don't know if they can win enough without their

612
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 3: bookend tackles, but they keep finding ways to get wins

613
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 3: as well.

614
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Speaker 4: Don't know if you noticed on the introductions last night

615
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 4: on Sunday Night Football, when they show the Chargers starting offense,

616
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 4: they show their offensive line. Pretty much every single one

617
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 4: of them were the last or second to last ranked

618
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 4: player at their position Pro Football Focus, So you feel

619
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Speaker 4: like that's going to level out at some point. That

620
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Speaker 4: being said, we saw that same thing happen with that

621
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Speaker 4: sort of graphic in Super Bowl fifty six. Ye with

622
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 4: the Bengals and that offensive line, so I'm not going

623
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Speaker 4: to say it'spletely impossible.

624
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Speaker 2: Herbert was efficient yesterday and.

625
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 4: He continues to run the ball when he is able

626
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 4: to escape.

627
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 2: I think that's good. He had a fifteen yard run yesterday.

628
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,239
Speaker 4: And with their weapons, they're just good enough with as

629
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 4: far as Pittsburgh's concerned, Rogers looked like an old man

630
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 4: who doesn't have it anymore.

631
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what he looked like last night.

632
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 3: Again, they got to bounce back and go against this

633
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 3: defense in Cincinnati.

634
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, good luck, Aaron. I do think it says

635
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 4: a lot about Pittsburgh that they're only five and a

636
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 4: half point favorites over the Bengals that game. Prior to

637
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 4: Sunday Night Football was at six and a half, and

638
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 4: even then I thought that was low. Now it's down

639
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 4: to five and a half. That I think tells you

640
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 4: what Vegas thinks of Pittsburgh.

641
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 3: And Pittsburgh still has to play in Chicago against Buffalo,

642
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 3: two against the Ravens, and one game in Detroit.

643
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 4: I expect the Steelers to win in Chicago. That would

644
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 4: just be such an Aaron Rodgers thing to.

645
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Speaker 3: Do correct, Let's get a break, let's come back, Let's

646
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 3: switch gears a little bit to the Cincinnati Bengals coming

647
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 3: out of a bye week. Some tangible second half goals

648
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 3: to look forward to for the Cincinnati Bengals. Your phone

649
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Speaker 3: calls along the way five one, three, seven, four nine,

650
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Speaker 3: fifteen thirty. It's the Monday midday quarterback on ESPN fifteen thirty,

651
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Speaker 3: Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 6: You've been listening to Football in the NATI on ESPN

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Speaker 6: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 2: This is what it sounds like. Joe One the Queen's Rivals.

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Speaker 8: Booka intercepts Appenson couldn't decide to take a step book

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Speaker 8: and got to the ball, sends it off for Jabari,

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Speaker 8: knocks it down.

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Speaker 2: Try to find Gidy Kitty, try to leave it now.

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Speaker 2: It comes to printer a.

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Speaker 9: Shot man Ayall printer of Price Jersey is off.

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Speaker 10: Cincinnati leads two to one.

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Speaker 2: Let's go wow, unbelievable scenes. Let's cell stad him. A

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Speaker 2: lot of fantastic play.

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Speaker 5: For Brenner, the guy that is the difference tonight gets

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Speaker 5: the equalis and gold of course PRITZFC.

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati up two to one. Man, I think we lost

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Speaker 2: Tommy for a second. That pounding. That was just Tommy

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Speaker 2: smacking the deaths. Here it is again, Lates two to one.

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Speaker 2: Here it is going.

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Speaker 4: Let's go.

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Speaker 3: Tom Glenda, You're our wind Schulers call the night winner.

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Speaker 3: Go Tommy, thanks to our friendship wind Schulers.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 3: Whatever the occasion may be, wind Schulers pairs perfectly for

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Speaker 3: any of it with their four delicious cheese spreads, four

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Speaker 3: delicious flavors make wind Schulers apart.

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Speaker 2: By the way, your next get.

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Speaker 4: Together, Tommy g is going to join me tonight, oh

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Speaker 4: at six thirty five pm down the dial on seven

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Speaker 4: hundred WLW to talk about that victory. And I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: ask him about what was going on.

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Speaker 2: In that moment. The booth cam is so good.

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Speaker 3: Yes, if you haven't go follow Tommy on social media

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Speaker 3: and watch the video of the booth cam from the

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Speaker 3: equalizer to what put FC ahead and then when the

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Speaker 3: final gun blue and and FC Cincinnati had advanced. All

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Speaker 3: great stuff from uh from that broadcast duel man, that's

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Speaker 3: so fun. Uh oh tony, yep, we have a firing.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, would you like to guess? Uh the coach

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Speaker 3: for the Columbus Grill. No, this is a NFL head coach.

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Speaker 3: Whoa whoa whoa can be hold on, let me let

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Speaker 3: me go back what I guess, Let me go back

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Speaker 3: to thinking of yesterday Stefanski. No, hmmm, gosh, who else

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Speaker 3: had a terrible loss yesterday? I don't know, Come on,

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Speaker 3: think about it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Who do I look like? Brian Daball.

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Speaker 2: Brian Dable canned as the Giants coach.

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Speaker 3: You felt you we literally just mentioned in the last

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Speaker 3: second's probably going to be sealed his fate with a

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Speaker 3: loss like that.

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Speaker 4: Well, sure enough. Three straight years the Giants have been

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Speaker 4: two and eight. They have blown four double digit leads

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Speaker 4: on the road this season, and as we mentioned, Jackson

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Speaker 4: Dart has been evaluated for a concussion four different times.

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Speaker 11: Man.

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Speaker 4: Now, I still believe in Brian Dable as an offensive

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Speaker 4: play caller, and I'm sure he'll get a job as

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Speaker 4: an OC somewhere. But yeah, yeah, man, well we got

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Speaker 4: becomes a much more interesting job or entice job with

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Speaker 4: Jackson Dart. With Jackson Dart and seeing how he's played

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Speaker 4: for the last few weeks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's take a break, let's come back, let's finish up.

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Speaker 3: The hour with some some tangible second half goals for

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Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Bengals, and then an hour number two, let's

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Speaker 3: kick things off this way. Let's go around the horn

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Speaker 3: with with some winning's. Let's hear from Pat Noon and

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Speaker 3: after their win, let's hear from West Miller after a

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Speaker 3: win on Friday night, going into Dayton with the Flyers

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Speaker 3: coming here tomorrow night into that contest as well. We'll

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Speaker 3: do that to start hour two when we come back

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Speaker 3: a little on the Cincinnati Bengals on the Monday midday

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Speaker 3: quarterback on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station, Y.

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Speaker 12: Cincinnati can make us the number one fifteen.

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Speaker 3: Thirty Welcome back Cincy three to sixty the Monday Midday Quarterback,

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Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. This came out as

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Speaker 3: well over the weekend. Austin Ian Rappaport reported that the

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Speaker 3: Bengals received no better than a fourth round pick in

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Speaker 3: exchange for Trey Hendrickson during the deadline week Knowing that,

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Speaker 3: knowing that no one offered above a fourth do you

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Speaker 3: think the Bengals did the right thing by holding on

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Speaker 3: to Trey Hendrickson.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it would have really felt like, I don't

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Speaker 4: know how, I don't know how to describe it, but

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Speaker 4: a major loss, a major missed opportunity had you only

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Speaker 4: gotten a fourth back for him.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 4: But you know, I also think the Bengals look at

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Speaker 4: it and say, Okay, well, if that's all we're going

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Speaker 4: to get back, and the franchise tag number is not

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Speaker 4: astronomical next year, sure, and he plays well in the

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Speaker 4: second half of the season, there is a path there

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Speaker 4: to say, Okay, we want to re up and we

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Speaker 4: want you to play for us. Or if he goes

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Speaker 4: nuclear over this second half of the season, then they

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Speaker 4: might be able to get that first round pick they've

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Speaker 4: been looking for.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, from an NFL stamp point where we're sitting at

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Speaker 3: right now. They threw some tiers out on ESPN today

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Speaker 3: of where teams are at, and the Bengals fall in

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Speaker 3: Austin to the tier labeled yes, I'm telling you that

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Speaker 3: there's a slight chance, And by slight the Bengals hold

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Speaker 3: a six point six percent chance currently to make the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: They have a five point four chance to win the

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Speaker 3: AFC North, so there's still technically a chance. But if

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Speaker 3: you're looking at the second half of the season, and

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Speaker 3: you're thinking of, Okay, what is tangible, what is feasible,

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Speaker 3: what is reachable for this team in the second half,

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Speaker 3: where does that start and stop with you? Like I

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Speaker 3: sit back and I've thought about this over the weekend.

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Speaker 3: The only thing I can think of is using the

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Speaker 3: remainder of this stretch to figure out who on this

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Speaker 3: team is good Like on on the defensive side of

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Speaker 3: the ball. We can't just replace eleven dudes next year.

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Speaker 13: You have.

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Speaker 3: Limited opportunities remaining against much better competition to figure out

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Speaker 3: who on this defense can you rely on going forward

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Speaker 3: and who just is not going to cut it.

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Speaker 2: And we've talked about this.

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Speaker 3: Ben Baby alluded to this that the Bengals have used

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Speaker 3: eleven top one hundred draft picks on defensive players since

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, and right now it's unclear if any

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Speaker 3: deserve any type of lucrative second contract. Ben Baby goes

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Speaker 3: on to talk about Osai, Dax Hill, DJ Turner have

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Speaker 3: been promising, but the Bengals are going to need more

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Speaker 3: after spending so much on key offensive players. I think

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Speaker 3: that the only tangible thing on the defensive side of

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Speaker 3: the ball is using the remainder of the schedule to

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Speaker 3: figure out who you have and who you don't in

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Speaker 3: a way to somehow attack the offseason much better than

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Speaker 3: they did this year.

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Speaker 4: But I don't know that that really changes from what

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Speaker 4: the plan was to begin with, Like if they made

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Speaker 4: these moves as early as they did, and not being

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Speaker 4: afraid to give those young guys a chance. You know,

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Speaker 4: I've often wondered was this the plan to play the

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Speaker 4: young guys with Burrow or without Burrow?

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Speaker 14: Like?

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Speaker 2: Was it the plan regardless?

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Speaker 4: And I'm starting to think that it was the plan

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Speaker 4: because they probably thought, well, offensively, Joe will just cover

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Speaker 4: it all up. Whatever it might be, Joe will cover

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Speaker 4: it up. And you know, looking back on it, like

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Speaker 4: the Packers game, probably a game they could have won

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Speaker 4: if Flacco didn't have a couple of days to prepare.

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Speaker 4: Sure Lions game, you know, Jake Browning one of the

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Speaker 4: worst performances I've ever seen. Does Joe Flacco make that

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Speaker 4: a competitive game? And does that make the Bengals think,

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Speaker 4: especially that three game stretch Vikings Broncos Lions, does that

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Speaker 4: make the Bengals think that they're closer than what they

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Speaker 4: are supposed to do than what they really are That's

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Speaker 4: one of my biggest fears because that was the mentality

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Speaker 4: that they had last year. We just got unlucky. But

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Speaker 4: now with young guys and a new defensive coordinator and

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Speaker 4: with Burrow, will be fine.

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Speaker 15: Well.

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Speaker 4: Flacco has played to the level of any the best best,

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Speaker 4: as good as any quarterback in the NFL, and it

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Speaker 4: still hasn't mattered.

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Speaker 11: And so.

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Speaker 4: How does being into a full fledged evaluation part of

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Speaker 4: the second half of the season, how does that affect

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Speaker 4: your decisions?

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Speaker 2: Like that to me is what's most interesting.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Shamar Stewart should play every snap, Demetrious Knight

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Speaker 4: should play every snap, Barrett Carter should play every snap. Hell,

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Speaker 4: Jalen Rivers should play every snap. Even TOADJ. Brooks, he's

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Speaker 4: gonna get a chance now with p Ryan gone, this

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Speaker 4: whole thing, you have got to figure out who who

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Speaker 4: you can really build around. Yeah, and I know that's

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Speaker 4: not like breaking news to anybody, but that that should

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Speaker 4: be what this second half is about. Yeah, which to

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Speaker 4: me goes to show, Okay, if you've done all these

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Speaker 4: other things, if you've put in Carter and Knight, if

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Speaker 4: you've put in Murphy and Stuart, if you've put in

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Speaker 4: you know any of these other young guys.

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Speaker 2: Why is Jordan Battle still playing? Yep? Why is Geno

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Speaker 2: Stone still playing?

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 4: Battle can make a case because he's still a really

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Speaker 4: young player. Geno Stone, Okay, I've seen enough.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we know who he is. What's Tyson Anderson gout?

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Speaker 2: Dejon Anthony?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know he's hurt and I'm kind of a

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Speaker 4: weird injury. I don't know when he's coming back. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: those guys should get opportunities.

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Speaker 2: Let's get to our two. Can we learn anything about

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Speaker 2: Al Golden?

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Speaker 3: I think that goes hand in hand with the defense.

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Speaker 3: I really do who you are on defense, not just

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Speaker 3: that doesn't just limit itself to the players, Yeah, the

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Speaker 3: to the coaching and the scheme as well. We'll break,

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Speaker 3: we'll come back. We will talk winning at the start

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Speaker 3: of our number two. The Bearcats one on Friday night,

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Speaker 3: albeit not pretty. We'll talk about that and you'll hear

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Speaker 3: from Wes Miller and FC Cincinnati knocks off Columbus to

847
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Speaker 3: advance in the MLS playoffs. We'll talk about that and

848
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Speaker 3: you'll hear from Pat Noonan as well. That will get

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Speaker 3: our number two started next on the home of the Bengals,

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome in. It's our two of the Monday

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Speaker 3: midday Quarterback. Yes we say quarterback because as we get

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Speaker 3: started with our number two, we have breaking quarterback news.

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Speaker 2: Got a tangible goal for you right here, Pal.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you what I wanted to talk about,

871
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 3: Pat noon and then FC Cincinnati.

872
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 2: We'll get to them this week.

873
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 3: I want to talk about what Wes Miller's squad did

874
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 3: on Friday night, But Austin, we have to talk about

875
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 3: what's going on at Pey Corpse Stadium right now.

876
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 4: Not only is the Jungle clad in a snowy frost,

877
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 4: but the Bengals have made an announcement. That announcement, Tony,

878
00:45:54,400 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 4: is that quarterback Joe Burrow is returning to practice in

879
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 4: a limited capacity beginning today. With Joe being on the

880
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 4: injured reserve, the Bengals can open up a twenty one

881
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 4: day window that allows him to practice prior to being activated.

882
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 4: So twenty one days from right now would be December first.

883
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 4: That would be prior to the Bengals game in Buffalo

884
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 4: in week sixteen fourteen. Excuse me, So all reports suggest

885
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 4: Joe is on schedule, perhaps even ahead of schedule. You

886
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 4: asked me last week if I thought he would play,

887
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 4: and the answer is yes, I think he would push

888
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 4: to play. I don't know that he should play, don't

889
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 4: know that it's a good idea that he is playing,

890
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 4: But looks like Joe Burrow is at the very least

891
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 4: going to try to play.

892
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 3: I think that obviously changes a lot of the conversation.

893
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 3: Now for the second half of the season looks as

894
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 3: you mentioned, Zian Rappaport has has mentioned, and so many

895
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 3: others have now gotten window on social media. It's two months,

896
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:16,479
Speaker 3: little under two months after the surgery. The windows open.

897
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 3: He's limited, he's on IR but he has twenty one

898
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 3: days from now to be activated. Today is November tenth.

899
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 3: That would put him out guaranteed. Pittsburgh, I would think

900
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 3: New England and Baltimore. Now the conversation shifts. Now, the

901
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 3: conversation builds around can you beat Pittsburgh, Can you come

902
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 3: home and beat New England? And and you hate to

903
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 3: do this during the NFL season, Austin, but it just

904
00:47:55,760 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 3: further emphasizes how debilitating the loss to the Jets and

905
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 3: the Bears was. You know, I mean, what if we're

906
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 3: talking about the opposite here. What if we're talking about

907
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 3: the five and four Bengals coming out of the by

908
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,240
Speaker 3: and oh, by the way, Burrows were turning.

909
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 2: To practice today.

910
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 3: What if you talk about the four and five Bengals

911
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 3: who would then be tied with the second place Baltimore

912
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 3: Ravens in the AFC North. It just further emphasizes the brutal,

913
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 3: brutal loss that was to the Jets and to the Bears.

914
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 3: It's just, man, had they been able to get those

915
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 3: thirty nine, thirty eight, forty seven, forty two both games

916
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:45,720
Speaker 3: there for the taking. But no doubt a good sign

917
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 3: that Joe Burrow will be practicing in a limited capacity.

918
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 3: It's been interesting because I felt like he wasn't in

919
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 3: the boot very long. It wasn't in the boot, and

920
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 3: then he's on the sidelines with regular gym shoes on.

921
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 3: He's been seeing different places around the city. It's again,

922
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 3: we didn't really ever get a clear indication because you

923
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 3: don't know the details of the surgery.

924
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 2: We just heard everything went well. Timetable's good.

925
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 3: But I hand up Austin, if I thought there was

926
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 3: a chance that we saw Joe Burrow again. I had

927
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 3: thought more along the lines of that Miami Dolphin game.

928
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 3: This timeline in tracking would, as you mentioned, make him

929
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 3: available in the game at Buffalo on December seventh. That

930
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 3: would get him back for the remaining five games of

931
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 3: the season, not just the three. Now. I think it's

932
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 3: very fair as we sit here Austin to say, well,

933
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 3: that's great, but what does Joe Burrow's return do to

934
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 3: help the defense, right, because Joe Flacco just put up

935
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 3: thirty eight and forty two and back to back losses.

936
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 3: I don't think you could ask Burrow to put up

937
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 3: more than that to play better at quarterbacks. So, yes,

938
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 3: while this is a good sign, there is still a

939
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 3: long way to go for this team. But it does

940
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 3: make things a little bit more interesting on the road

941
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 3: this weekend at Pittsburgh.

942
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 4: The first thought I had was, Wow, he's ahead of schedule,

943
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 4: and what's the point Because if the defense had been

944
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 4: showing any signs of life, then okay, let's see what

945
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 4: can happen here. And we talk about the AFC being

946
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 4: open and all that sort of stuff. But the way

947
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 4: they lost against Chicago, the way they lost against the Jets,

948
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 4: that removed all hope for me.

949
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 2: And I don't know that Burrow can save this. I

950
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:47,439
Speaker 2: don't know that he can flick.

951
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 4: You mentioned that in the last segment Flacos played as

952
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 4: good as any quarterback in the NFL.

953
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 3: It hasn't mattered if they had put seventeen and ten

954
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 3: up the last two weeks. Sure not thirty eight and

955
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 3: forty two. That's tough.

956
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 4: And also you know. I also want to like really

957
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 4: caution everyone because this is still a fickle injury, Like

958
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 4: it is a different and maybe the recovery after a

959
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 4: surgery is a little bit more you know, doable. But

960
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 4: we're still talking about Brock Parties turftee and that's been

961
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 4: going on for over a month. Yeah, and so well

962
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 4: over a month, and so I think this week it'll

963
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 4: be interesting to talk to Joe and see or hear

964
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 4: from Joe at whatever point he's supposed to talk today,

965
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:39,720
Speaker 4: we'll carry it here. But if how does it respond

966
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 4: to a week of practice? Yeah, these are all like

967
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 4: this is a good sign, this is a good thing.

968
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,760
Speaker 4: I'm happy that they appear to be ahead of schedule.

969
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 4: But also it's like, okay, well let's not get over

970
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 4: let's not get ahead of ourselves for the sake of

971
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 4: getting ahead of ourselves.

972
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 3: Well, I will know, Oh you want me to what

973
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 3: how about this? I saw this tweet from Joe Goodberry today. Okay,

974
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 3: listen to this. I I already know what you're talking about.

975
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 3: The offense under Zach Taylor gets much better as the

976
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:09,720
Speaker 3: season goes on in his career, but as Joe Goodbarry

977
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 3: points out, Austin. Did you know that the defense also

978
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,720
Speaker 3: gets better in weeks one through nine? Since twenty nineteen,

979
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Bengals have the thirty first ranked defense in

980
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 3: EPA per play, and it didn't get much better with

981
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 3: the run the team went on in twenty twenty one.

982
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 2: Is what Joe Goodberry alludes to.

983
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 3: In weeks one through nine, since twenty twenty one, they

984
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 3: have the twenty ninth ranked defense and EPA per play.

985
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 3: Their run defense is thirtieth in EPA and that span.

986
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 3: But how about this weeks ten through eighteen, it goes

987
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 3: up to eighteenth and EPA per play and their run

988
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 3: defense ranked sixteenth and EPA over that span. So in

989
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:52,800
Speaker 3: the past, now this is Luenna Rumo's defenses in the past,

990
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 3: weeks ten through eighteen have been much better for the

991
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Bengals. If you're looking for hope, if you're looking

992
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 3: for something to cling to, at least in the Zach

993
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 3: Taylor era, the second half of the year has been

994
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 3: much better on both the offensive and defensive side of

995
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 3: the ball. That's why we've talked for so many years

996
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,439
Speaker 3: about slow starts and how it has hampered this team.

997
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 3: But if you're looking for any sign of light if

998
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 3: you're looking for any realm of optimism to cling to. Historically,

999
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 3: the defense has gotten better in the second half of

1000
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 3: the year. Unfortunately, Austin, we've not yet talked about a

1001
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 3: defense during this tenure that is ranking to be the

1002
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 3: worst in the history of the NFL.

1003
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 4: We haven't done that, And we also don't have lou

1004
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 4: Ana Rumo as the defensive coordinator, who would be the

1005
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 4: guy behind all those previous turnarounds in the second half. So,

1006
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm open to it with Al Golden, perhaps

1007
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 4: it's possible. I have a hard time thinking that's reality now,

1008
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 4: just based off of some of the opponents, especially the

1009
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 4: last three weeks of the season and another game against Pittsburgh,

1010
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 4: maybe it kind of trends in that direction because those

1011
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 4: offenses are not great. But I mean, okay, if we're

1012
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 4: looking for a path, if we're trying to convince ourselves,

1013
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:20,280
Speaker 4: can we find a path?

1014
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 2: Man? Just crazy what each day can bring. You never know.

1015
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 5: Here.

1016
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 4: I don't think anybody I don't think anybody expected that.

1017
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 4: I mean, I so if you remember I've said multiple times,

1018
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 4: I don't think I didn't think he was going to play.

1019
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 4: It just felt like an impossible thing to me. And

1020
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 4: then over the last couple of weeks just hearing some

1021
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 4: things and seeing a little bit, it's like, okay.

1022
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 2: Excuse me, it's it's emotional for everyone. He is going

1023
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,760
Speaker 2: to try to do this. Is it a wise decision?

1024
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. And just one day it doesn't mean

1025
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 2: Austin that that he has to play again this year? Correct, Right?

1026
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 2: You could look at it.

1027
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 3: If they get boat raced in the next three and

1028
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 3: the defense is still a bus well, there's no point

1029
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 3: in bringing it back.

1030
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 4: Right, And then it's like, I don't know how they

1031
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 4: they put it as you know, they Joe had a

1032
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 4: set back in training or whatever, and just gonna keep

1033
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 4: them down for the risk. I don't know, but right,

1034
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 4: I also think a lot has been made about the

1035
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 4: idea that Joe Burrow in his football mortality and his

1036
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 4: mental state and dealing with all that, And there was

1037
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 4: all the Andrew Luck comparisons when the injury first happened,

1038
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 4: and people that I, you know, have talked to that

1039
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 4: are a little bit close to Burrow say that is

1040
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 4: not his mentality whatsoever, not even close to being the

1041
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 4: same type of person.

1042
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:47,399
Speaker 2: And I think this kind of furthers that point.

1043
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 3: Yep, no disrespect FC Cincinnati or the Cincinnati Bearcats. We

1044
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 3: will get into those those squads this week, but far

1045
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 3: and away, huge news here in Cincinnati. And again I

1046
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 3: hate to look back, but it just makes the last

1047
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 3: two heart even more. Just five and four coming out

1048
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 3: of a bye and you get this news today, everything's

1049
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 3: back on.

1050
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 17: Now.

1051
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 2: Here's the thing.

1052
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 4: I would not be surprised if they beat the Pittsburgh Steelers.

1053
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 4: The Steelers, the Steelers that I saw last night. That's

1054
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 4: a beautiful, beatable football team, and we just saw the

1055
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 4: Bengals do it a couple of weeks ago.

1056
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 2: Without a doubt.

1057
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 4: I would not be surprised at all if they beat

1058
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 4: the Pittsburgh Steelers.

1059
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 11: And then.

1060
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 4: There is some legitimacy to the idea because you would

1061
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 4: be three and zero in the AFC North. You were

1062
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 4: talking earlier with the tangible goals in the second half. Well,

1063
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 4: for me, the first thing I thought was can they

1064
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 4: go four and two in the division. If they go

1065
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 4: four and two in the division, there's a path, there's

1066
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 4: an opportunity.

1067
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 2: It would mean.

1068
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 4: You know, basically just I don't even know the word.

1069
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 4: I'm looking for two and two over the next four

1070
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 4: sure in the division. Oh man, I'm shocked. I didn't

1071
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 4: expect that today.

1072
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 3: Looky, play the other side of it, all right, we

1073
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 3: have been I feel like Austin. We have been in

1074
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 3: rightfully so very critical the Bengals. Yeah, and what they've done.

1075
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 3: Play the opposite side. Buffalo just got beat by Miami

1076
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 3: yesterday and you could either take that as Miami being

1077
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 3: much better than we think, or Buffalo not as unbeatable

1078
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 3: as people thought with the Super Bowl or bust type

1079
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 3: of mentality. The Ravens defense has not been dominant. They

1080
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 3: have gotten better Arizona and Cleveland to finish the year.

1081
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 3: It kind of is what it is. I don't think

1082
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 3: Kyler Murray probably not gonna be playing, still going to

1083
00:57:56,160 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 3: be Jacoby Brissett. What do you think the magic number is?

1084
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 3: What is the need of the playoffs? What is the

1085
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 3: number that gets the Bengals to make the playoffs?

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Speaker 4: I won't change from what I said at the beginning

1087
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 4: of the year, which is eleven. Okay, I still think

1088
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 4: it's eleven.

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00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, right now, you've got Kansas City at

1090
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 3: five and four on the outside, looking in Baltimore at

1091
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 3: four and five on the outside looking in, and you

1092
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 3: and I just did the exercise Friday Austin of which

1093
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 3: teams are going to be jumped that are currently in

1094
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 3: playoff spots right Buffalo occupies a playoff spot right now, Denver, Indianapolis,

1095
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 3: New England, Pittsburgh, Los Angeles, Jacksonville. I don't think Jacksonville

1096
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 3: has stay in power. But I also don't think Kansas

1097
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 3: City stays on the outside looking in. I don't think

1098
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 3: Baltimore stays on the outside looking in.

1099
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1100
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 3: So again, if you had just gotten one of the

1101
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 3: last two, I think there's a much more tangible conversation

1102
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 3: to be had. This to me, it's still such a

1103
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 3: long shot. They would need a lot of help.

1104
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh to fall apart, ye, Jacksonville to fall apart, Houston

1105
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 4: to fall apart an either the Chargers or Chiefs, and

1106
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 4: probably most preferably the Chiefs to fall apart.

1107
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, because the Chargers already sit at seven and three,

1108
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 3: and again they've lost both tackles. But that's still that's

1109
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 3: a that's a good football team. Chargers play Jacksonville and

1110
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 3: Las Vegas in their next two. They're not gonna I

1111
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 3: don't think they lose either of those two. So again

1112
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 3: it's it's it's putting too much out there ahead of time.

1113
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 3: They're still but it just opens up a conversation that's

1114
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 3: that's fun to have. You just wish the last two

1115
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 3: weeks had gone differently. I'm happy the jetson.

1116
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 4: I'm happy for Joe Burrow that this is even a

1117
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 4: possibility because he wants to play football and he's being

1118
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 4: paid handsomely to play football and this rash of unlucky,

1119
00:59:56,560 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 4: silly injuries sucks and for him to even remotely have

1120
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 4: the chance, I think is a really good thing for him.

1121
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 4: It's a good thing for Bengals fans, it's a good

1122
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 4: thing for the franchise. Now does it make sense entirely,

1123
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1124
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 11: Is it.

1125
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 4: Even remotely a possibility that they get in the playoffs?

1126
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 4: Very very very slim. But this is at least a

1127
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 4: good thing for this person and for Bengals fans who

1128
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 4: want to watch Joe Burrow play.

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01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 3: For them, and something that the Bengals fans who haven't

1130
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 3: had much to root for this year can root for.

1131
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Unfortunately, it feels like they've dug their grave. Yep.

1132
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 3: And this doesn't change it, and it doesn't help the

1133
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 3: defense correct, but at least it's something. Take that and

1134
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 3: run with it. It's the season of joy. Find something

1135
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 3: to be happy about. And right now, Joe Burrow returning

1136
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 3: to practice the twenty one day window opening. That's a

1137
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 3: positive regardless of what this team's record is. Let's take

1138
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 3: a break, let's come back. The Monday edition of Talkbacks

1139
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 3: happens next on the Monday Day Quarterback ESPN fifteen thirty

1140
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Sports station.

1141
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 18: Bags.

1142
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 19: Go and grab your phone and record a message.

1143
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 7: Just hit that microphone.

1144
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 19: Please keep it clean and dopelean and those sprinkle sprinkle

1145
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 19: drip drip drifts.

1146
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 2: It's up. Time for talkbacks.

1147
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 19: It's suck favorite part since e three sixty Austin, buddy,

1148
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 19: play those talkbacks on your screen and please drive out

1149
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 19: to sabotage it all.

1150
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 2: Right, here we go.

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01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 3: It is the Monday midday Quarterback Talkback edition. Here for

1152
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 3: Monday quick scheduling as well. Austin, you mentioned Zach Taylor

1153
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 3: is speaking to the media this afternoon. In just a

1154
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 3: couple of minutes.

1155
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, he's supposed to speak this afternoon. I assume

1156
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 4: that you guys will have that on the Tony and

1157
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 4: Most Show and Joe Burrow and Joe Burrow is supposed

1158
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,919
Speaker 4: to talk around two forty today and so the plan

1159
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 4: will be to carry that live, which will obviously take

1160
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,919
Speaker 4: the place of quick hits going into the Tonian mof

1161
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 4: Football Show by Week edition.

1162
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 3: One other NFL note with Brian day Ball being fired.

1163
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 3: That is the only move that has been made so

1164
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 3: far with the New York Giants, and Mike Kafka is

1165
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 3: set to replace Brian day Ball as an interim head

1166
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 3: coach for the Giants.

1167
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 2: Here are James Madison.

1168
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 15: Bloomington moves to ten and zero on the season, still

1169
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 15: ranked number two. On the fabulous toe tap touchdown catch

1170
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 15: by Omar Cooper, Gus Johnson exploded at the end and

1171
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 15: lost it. Mendoza back to pass a throw to the

1172
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 15: end zone.

1173
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 20: To tap and.

1174
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 2: You man, I wasn't a huge fan of Gus's coach.

1175
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 2: He was losing his mind.

1176
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 4: It feels like the novelty and the genuine Gus Johnson

1177
01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 4: is not there anymore.

1178
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 3: It's almost like he knows correct when he's that level,

1179
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 3: how people responding now, He's just trying to bring it.

1180
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 2: Out more correct.

1181
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 13: How about the Wildcats? They blow out a team that

1182
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 13: had been owning them for decades. What a fine game

1183
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 13: that was. I went to it. I broke down and

1184
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 13: went to it. The only is it probably saved stoops

1185
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 13: rear in for another year, which is okay with me

1186
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 13: if he can keep them winning. Cutter Bully is heck

1187
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 13: a quarterback. So we'll see, so go Big Blue and

1188
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 13: who Day.

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01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, we didn't discuss at Austin because there was so

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01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 3: much noise with Cardons and the noise that he made

1191
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 3: and the video that he sent out with all the money,

1192
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 3: and it felt like Stoops was losing control of things.

1193
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 3: They put up thirty eight on Florida and that can

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01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 3: say a lot about Florida as well. But not only

1195
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 3: putting up thirty eight, they put up thirty five of

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01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 3: those thirty eight unanswered after Florida took a seven to

1197
01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 3: three lead. That's a big win for Kentucky and Mark Stoops.

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01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 21: Brinner Sisia f FCSA received some passing the final way

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Speaker 21: TV shoots good.

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01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 2: Wow, take that, Tommy j Jim.

1201
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 4: That was my favorite talkback you've ever left. Take that, Tommy,

1202
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 4: Great job.

1203
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 22: Tony and Austin Adam from Mount Adams down into Week

1204
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 22: makes Last Sunday was one of the lowest sports days

1205
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 22: of my life. Saturday came through clutch Hoosiers winning dramatic

1206
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:50,479
Speaker 22: fashion FC since Columbus home packing in the playoffs. About

1207
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 22: two of the greatest calls you ever here happened, Gus

1208
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 22: Johnson losing his mind as a touchdown and Tommy g

1209
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 22: with an emphatic let's go after Brinter scored the game winner.

1210
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 22: So good CMS tackles yesterday. A lot of positives headed

1211
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:03,919
Speaker 22: into Pittsburgh every week.

1212
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 2: It's a good point the Bengals did not have any

1213
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 2: mistackles yesterday, quick double dip.

1214
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 22: I don't know if anybody saw the Canadian Premier League

1215
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 22: Championship yesterday. Seventeen degrees and it looked like about five

1216
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 22: inches of snow on the pitch for a soccer final

1217
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 22: of pretty insane to see. Big match Sunday, November twenty third,

1218
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 22: at five pm Messi and Miami coming from a conference

1219
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 22: semi finals and the words of Ric Flair to beat

1220
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 22: the man, You've got.

1221
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 2: To beat the man.

1222
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 4: That's right, let's go. That was a pretty good Rick Flair.

1223
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 4: I just want to add a little bit more to

1224
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 4: the Joe Burrow conversation, if that's all right with you.

1225
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 2: Sure.

1226
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 4: This is a report from Jay Glazer, Fox NFL Insider.

1227
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 4: He said last week, Joe Burrow told me he's returning

1228
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 4: way sooner than was expected and gave me the timeline

1229
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 4: of quote by Thanksgiving.

1230
01:05:58,320 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 2: Wow.

1231
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 4: Now we'll practicing on a limited basis. Absolutely unreal attack

1232
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 4: of rehab and response. At first, medical people didn't believe

1233
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:11,919
Speaker 4: he'd be back before playoffs. Huge jump for him. He's

1234
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 4: a g man, I mean different. I'd be Baltimore now, Yeah,

1235
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 4: Thanksgiving night would be in Baltimore. Okay, okay, all right, okay,

1236
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 4: all right, now you're starting to make me believe again.

1237
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 11: Hi, it's shouting for malhealthy here here, John, You know what,

1238
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 11: it's gloomy, snowy cold outside. The Bengals are three and six.

1239
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 11: But guess what if we beat the Steelers this week,

1240
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 11: we're essentially in the driver's seat for the AFC North.

1241
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 11: I understand we have a tough schedule ahead of us,

1242
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 11: but for a little optimism, folks, let's just get right

1243
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 11: this week against Pittsburgh and keep moving forward.

1244
01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 2: Man. And that's probably before John even realized Burrows on

1245
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:00,439
Speaker 2: the way. Yeah.

1246
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 4: I feel like we'll get another talk back here in

1247
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 4: about twelve talkbacks from now.

1248
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 7: It's him.

1249
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 23: Also, I freaking love this weather.

1250
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 11: I don't care if anyone's complaining today. This is lovely.

1251
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 11: If you prefer being sweaty and hot in one hundred

1252
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 11: and twenty degrees, getting in and out of your car,

1253
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 11: trying to go to work every day, and having to

1254
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 11: shower multiple times versus this beautiful, nice, cold, cozy you

1255
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 11: get home from work, you put on a nice fire,

1256
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 11: you drink some nice bourbon. Folks, this is good weather,

1257
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 11: pro winter, anti summer Hoodah.

1258
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, I've never agreed with him more repping the

1259
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 3: city out here in sunny Tony.

1260
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 2: What up about it?

1261
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 13: Oh?

1262
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,440
Speaker 24: I hear snowing back there? I low key miss it.

1263
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 24: But Ben, I tell my wife that TG on a

1264
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 24: radio was fire Saturday.

1265
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 3: Man.

1266
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 24: I was jumping up and down at my second job.

1267
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 24: Beating that team in that ugly color just put a

1268
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 24: smile on my face. Anything yellow and black as whack

1269
01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 24: h Bob. Bob Miller is the dude. I just go

1270
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 24: god off of Bob. Every time I see him, I

1271
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 24: just say, dunk the ball. Let's go Cats beat days

1272
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 24: co Mom, Bengals figure out way to win.

1273
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 2: Come on, Cats, come on, Cats. I love the bro

1274
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 2: mance that it's forming between Ronnie ron and Tommy g.

1275
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 24: So two weeks from now, both Cincinnati teams will be

1276
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 24: playing the same day.

1277
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 2: Real talk. I'm liking this.

1278
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 24: Bengals and EFC Cincinnati Man. Bengals better win and Cincinnati

1279
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 24: better stand up. We gotta dress down to get down.

1280
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 2: You did what I'm saying. Let's send the goat packing,

1281
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 2: send him home. Let's card you to get the cup.

1282
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 24: TG be on the radio. Rowdy crowd at the Bailey.

1283
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 24: I can feel the smoke. We want to smoke. It's

1284
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 24: trying to send Miami away. This is our year for

1285
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:45,720
Speaker 24: the Cup.

1286
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 12: Let's go come on, come on, Happy Monday, Tony and

1287
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 12: NAUGHTI this is Gina.

1288
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 11: Hey.

1289
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 12: I this is a start bench cut for a coach,

1290
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:06,719
Speaker 12: and it would be Mike Rabel, Sean McVeigh or Dan Campbell.

1291
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 2: Who that's tough.

1292
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 12: I'll tell you mine a little bit.

1293
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 3: I still think I would start McVeigh. That's probably one

1294
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:18,639
Speaker 3: of the toughest ones we've ever had. I'd probably bench

1295
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 3: Campbell and cut Rabel. I'm starting Motor City Dan Campbell.

1296
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 3: I want to play for that guy. I'm benching Mike Rabel.

1297
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 3: I'm cutting Sean McVay.

1298
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:29,919
Speaker 2: Wow, cutting McVeigh. Yeah, that's insane.

1299
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 12: Drum roll, please, and I select.

1300
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:36,679
Speaker 25: Dan Campbell.

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01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:39,639
Speaker 12: Okay, I'd love to have him. I'd love a tough

1302
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 12: guy being our head coach.

1303
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:47,719
Speaker 2: All right, you too, Thank you, Gina.

1304
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:52,559
Speaker 7: Hello, this is former President Ronald Reagan and Will I'm

1305
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 7: happy to announce that the Bengals are not standing pat

1306
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:58,680
Speaker 7: and just sitting by idly during the bye week. No,

1307
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 7: they're aggressively pursuing upgrading their coaching staff. At least that's

1308
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 7: what I'm being told. That's right. They've been contacting the

1309
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 7: Cleveland Browns special teams coach to see if they can

1310
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 7: pry him away.

1311
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 26: Now, Tony, I'm very surprised Austin did not correct you,

1312
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 26: but that when by Indianapolis, that was not a true

1313
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 26: road game.

1314
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 4: That stadium, by the way, looked really cool. And on

1315
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:35,680
Speaker 4: top of that, the historic significance of that stadium, if

1316
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:38,040
Speaker 4: you don't know the story of Jesse Owens in the

1317
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 4: Olympics in front of Adolf Hitler in that stadium, one

1318
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 4: of the most incredible moments in sports history. So I

1319
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 4: thought it was cool that they played that there.

1320
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1321
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 8: Hey, Austin. Hey, Tony Paul from Cleaves here, I have

1322
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,879
Speaker 8: a question for you. The NFL was building their brand overseas,

1323
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 8: and I get it, and they're making it global. I

1324
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 8: totally understand that. And they say teams that go over

1325
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:03,760
Speaker 8: there a home game, Well, why is that the case?

1326
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 8: Why can't they just both lose an away game off

1327
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:10,719
Speaker 8: their schedule? I don't understand. I mean, you know, technically

1328
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 8: you don't have to lose that home game. I mean,

1329
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 8: does that sound crazy?

1330
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:23,639
Speaker 2: I'm not sure I follow it. I don't follow it either. Yeah,

1331
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 2: Texas Tech and Texas A and M.

1332
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 27: I think they they both look real good.

1333
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1334
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 27: Love Alabama's quarterback high State Steve Fence great. Pittsburgh did

1335
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 27: look bad.

1336
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:40,839
Speaker 2: Rogers.

1337
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 27: I think I would just if I was the Steelers,

1338
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 27: I would just hand it to Warren every time. Seahawks

1339
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:48,879
Speaker 27: rams both awesome?

1340
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, did you are we not talking enough in college

1341
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 3: football about Texas A and M. I feel like they're

1342
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:56,599
Speaker 3: like the quietest third ranked team in a long time.

1343
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 2: It's a good point.

1344
01:11:57,640 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought Missouri would be like a sleeper spot

1345
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:00,759
Speaker 3: when they dominated.

1346
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 4: I think people have just been waiting on Texas A

1347
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 4: and M to screw up and they just haven't. Ye

1348
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 4: And yeah, I mean obviously that building and their coach

1349
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 4: with Mike Elko. Yeah, I mean there's there's some juice there.

1350
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 28: Hey, guys, it's Jeff Hope. You had a great weekend. Hey,

1351
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 28: I heard in Newnan's post game that he had talked

1352
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 28: about subbing Brenner out after that first goal. Good thing

1353
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 28: he didn't. It could have been disastrous.

1354
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:30,759
Speaker 21: Anyway.

1355
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 28: Also, wanting to bring up the Bearcats basketball did not

1356
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:37,800
Speaker 28: look great on Friday night. They got to play a

1357
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:41,680
Speaker 28: lot better to beat Dayton tomorrow. Go Bearcats, have a

1358
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 28: great day.

1359
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 2: A lot they're still trying to sort through. But it

1360
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:45,640
Speaker 2: was ugly Friday night. I'll give you that.

1361
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:50,200
Speaker 27: I love the fire and Tommy GE's belly when he

1362
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 27: called that goal call, he said, that was great man.

1363
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:00,639
Speaker 2: I got my blood up. Man.

1364
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 28: We have had that kind of victory of Cincinnata in

1365
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:03,759
Speaker 28: a while.

1366
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 2: I don't even like soccer, and I'm pumped up. Let's

1367
01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 2: go Tommy County. Yeah, putting together a streak. Bring on

1368
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 2: that fourth round or bring it out by tray Well,

1369
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 2: speak of the devil. Oh, we have some Trey Henderson news.

1370
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 4: Zach Taylor meeting with the media as we speak, says

1371
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:36,679
Speaker 4: Trey Henderson will be doubtful to play in Pittsburgh this week.

1372
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:38,639
Speaker 2: Well, you can't have everything nice.

1373
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 29: All right, guys, that said Deem and Melfart. I'm gonna

1374
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 29: start on. I'll take my name because everybody else do

1375
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:49,559
Speaker 29: you t the Bengals trade for Patrick Mahomes's and end

1376
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:52,840
Speaker 29: up put Patrick Mahomes and Del Burrow both out on

1377
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 29: the field to run a hook of Laurel Man.

1378
01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:01,600
Speaker 30: DJ Reader two tackles d G six tackles in a

1379
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 30: TfL playoff, p A past deflection, Ilariogan Jobi a TfL

1380
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 30: Juda Bey Woozier pass deflection and a QB hit Wow,

1381
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:14,799
Speaker 30: Sheldon Rankins recovery for a touchdown. Wow, Zay Williams seventy

1382
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 30: four yard punt return touchdown, and of course Jesse Bates

1383
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 30: a force fumble in an interception. This was all just yesterday.

1384
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:27,639
Speaker 2: Wow. That is insane. It's insane. That's a great point. Yet,

1385
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:29,720
Speaker 2: I mean that's a wonderful point right there.

1386
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 3: Well said, well thought out by the way, Trent Brown

1387
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 3: remember him, Yeah, starting on that Texans offensive line that

1388
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 3: helped with that comeback yesterday and.

1389
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 2: Speaking hell, hell was real. Saturday Night on the West believable.

1390
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:45,919
Speaker 30: Brenner booked himself a spot in Cincinnati Playoff Lore Forever.

1391
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 30: Great call by Tommy G. Thanks for sharing that it's

1392
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 30: gonna be tough to pull off the double dip in

1393
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 30: a couple Sundays. I don't really like how MLS scheduled

1394
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:58,200
Speaker 30: Cincinnati and Miami for five pm on a Sunday fall Sunday.

1395
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 2: Uh, but we're gonna try to make it. Let's go.

1396
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 30: Who knows, maybe the Bengals will be playing for something

1397
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 30: if they could pull off the win in Pittsburgh on Sunday.

1398
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 2: Let's go FCC.

1399
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 3: Well, the news we received just a few moments ago,

1400
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:11,639
Speaker 3: they're playing for a lot more in Pittsburgh and against

1401
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 3: New England at.

1402
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:17,679
Speaker 16: Least New Ay's Thursday, Madrid cabbierros there is no chance

1403
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 16: this Borough news is accurate, right. They can't be stupid

1404
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 16: enough to think that they want to try to let

1405
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:25,720
Speaker 16: him play again. I guess we'll have to wait for

1406
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 16: the news conference to see what's going on. I hope

1407
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 16: the weather has stop snowing back there.

1408
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 2: Thank you, Jeff. I think it's real. He gets accurate.

1409
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 31: It's as real as The news is, there is no

1410
01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:41,679
Speaker 31: way in hell I'm letting Burroughs take a another snap

1411
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 31: this season with this, with this current iteration of this

1412
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 31: team and this defense, it is not possible to play

1413
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:50,920
Speaker 31: better than what Joe Flacco is and there's still losing.

1414
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 2: And look at rock Perty.

1415
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:53,760
Speaker 20: They tried to rush him back.

1416
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 32: His injury wasn't even.

1417
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 20: Severe as Boroughs and he's still out. The fact that

1418
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 20: this team is not good of this is just a

1419
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 20: pr stunt to keep the fans engaged.

1420
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 9: Don't fall for it.

1421
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:05,960
Speaker 2: There you go.

1422
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 3: Pay did say that Burrow will not play Sunday against

1423
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 3: the Steelers.

1424
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 2: Well, we wouldn't know that much so and I wouldn't

1425
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:15,360
Speaker 2: there we go.

1426
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 20: And I wouldn't be shocked either if they beat the Steelers,

1427
01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 20: but I would be shocked if they beat the Patriots, correct,

1428
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:24,960
Speaker 20: if they beat the Ravens either time, or if they

1429
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:27,600
Speaker 20: beat the Bills. I'd be shocked if they if they

1430
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:30,640
Speaker 20: won any of those games. So, I mean, if they

1431
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:34,800
Speaker 20: bring this guy back, this has tragedy written all over it.

1432
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:40,760
Speaker 20: So the Bengals organization needs to step up, protect Burr

1433
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:43,760
Speaker 20: from himself and tell him them and do what a

1434
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 20: good organization would do.

1435
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 4: But what if they beat the Steelers on Sunday? All right,

1436
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:52,559
Speaker 4: and then they lose to the Patriots, So then they

1437
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 4: would be four and seven, And then what if they

1438
01:16:56,520 --> 01:17:02,560
Speaker 4: rattle off six straight Baltimore with Burrow, Buffalo with Baltimore

1439
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:06,679
Speaker 4: with Burrow, Miami with Burrough, Arizona with Burrow, Cleveland with Burrow,

1440
01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 4: and then they sneak into the playoffs. Nobody wants to

1441
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 4: play them. The ascension of Demetrius Knight Junior and Barred

1442
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 4: Carter Dax Hill returns to form DJ Turner becomes an

1443
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 4: all pro Jordan Battle learns how to tackle.

1444
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 2: What if it all happens?

1445
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 33: Hey Austin, Hey Tony, Brandon Mundy, I hope you guys

1446
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:27,720
Speaker 33: are doing well. I just wanted to say, I think

1447
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 33: that's a good pick, Tony, A real good pick. If

1448
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 33: the Bengals will get it together, pick the Colts. I

1449
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,760
Speaker 33: thought we have a lot to cheer about this year

1450
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 33: in Indy here, but they looked really good yesterday. The

1451
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:42,559
Speaker 33: offensive line gave up four or five sacks to Daniel Jones,

1452
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 33: but other than that, you know.

1453
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 2: With Louyna Romo, I thought we looked better.

1454
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 33: We're better with him as a defensive coordinator. As far

1455
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 33: as the Bengals are concerned, I just don't see them.

1456
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 34: Yeah, okay, Jeff im case here Burrow coming back to

1457
01:17:57,640 --> 01:18:00,840
Speaker 34: practice or whatnot, and Jessilly coming back to play this year,

1458
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 34: even with the record being what it is.

1459
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 2: What do you think this says for Zach and Duke.

1460
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:11,600
Speaker 34: I think it says saddle up boys, we got at

1461
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 34: least another year, probably two of both of them.

1462
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean that I think was determined week.

1463
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:21,559
Speaker 4: I do think the best reaction has been. I saw

1464
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 4: from a guy named Brandon on Twitter who posted the

1465
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:28,800
Speaker 4: gift of Lieutenant Dan at New Year's Eve when the

1466
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:32,479
Speaker 4: clock strikes midnight and there's all this Confetitian celebration, He's

1467
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 4: just standing there stoic, like he knows his life is

1468
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 4: in shambles, but like everyone else is celebrating. And that's

1469
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:42,759
Speaker 4: like the response from Bengals fans. I think that perfectly

1470
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 4: sums it up.

1471
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 12: Man.

1472
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:47,880
Speaker 25: I can see the path you're talking paths. I can

1473
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:50,840
Speaker 25: see a path. I can squint, Tony, I can squint often.

1474
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:51,640
Speaker 2: I can see it.

1475
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 25: Joe Burrow's probably not gonna be back this week. We'll

1476
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 25: find out a little bit more later. But if I'm

1477
01:18:57,240 --> 01:19:00,559
Speaker 25: Jake Browning boy, I'm nervous about getting cut. You said

1478
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:03,200
Speaker 25: number nine coming back, and that's the glimmer of hope.

1479
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:05,800
Speaker 25: That's what this city needs. You have to go into

1480
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 25: Pittsburgh and take care of business because we need Joe

1481
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:10,880
Speaker 25: Burrow and Drake Bay battling it out.

1482
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 35: Of pay Corps two weeks from yesterday.

1483
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:15,559
Speaker 2: Man, no, that'd be fun. Now if he plays against

1484
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 2: the Patriots, well, we're in a whole different mode.

1485
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:21,639
Speaker 15: Come on now, BigGAN, Tony and Austin, you're right, Gus

1486
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:26,719
Speaker 15: Johnson has lost his gusto bring back the old Gus.

1487
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 2: Let's go.

1488
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:29,519
Speaker 13: Man.

1489
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 4: You think if Joe Burrow does come back, they'll move

1490
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 4: Joe Blacker to like a linebacker position.

1491
01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 2: I don't hate it. Great, great, everything's on the table.

1492
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 2: What's up, Tony and Austin's Joe in Baltimore? Just when

1493
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 2: I thought the season was over. Oh, they sucked me

1494
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:48,000
Speaker 2: right back in with Joe coming back.

1495
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:52,600
Speaker 1: Now I'll buck on all this hoping hoodah being Pittsburg.

1496
01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:55,760
Speaker 2: Take in the hope. Um then amen, brother take it in.

1497
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:58,240
Speaker 21: Yeah, guys like drive right Ralph for our gays. That

1498
01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:02,920
Speaker 21: sounds like a great idea trade everybody. I for Patrick

1499
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:07,879
Speaker 21: Mahomes sounds like a great I am thank you, goodbye.

1500
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 10: This is Robin Oakley and calling with the news of

1501
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 10: Joe Burrow. I got an interesting little tip this weekend

1502
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:18,639
Speaker 10: from a pretty good source, which I'm not going to name,

1503
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 10: so source, trust me, Burrow all you want. The word

1504
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:26,080
Speaker 10: I was told Saturday was that if all goes well,

1505
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:28,680
Speaker 10: Joe Burrow plays Thanksgiving night.

1506
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 2: Wow.

1507
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 10: So it's a pretty good source. And real quick, congrats,

1508
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:35,400
Speaker 10: I'm making uc Hall of Fame, Tony, thank you. See

1509
01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:38,360
Speaker 10: pitt game, best game I've ever been to. Gokats.

1510
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:40,560
Speaker 4: Well, my man here might have a similar source to

1511
01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 4: Jay Glazier. Yep, said the same things.

1512
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:45,160
Speaker 2: John Bangles.

1513
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 30: You snuck in the Trey Hendrickson News about thirty minutes

1514
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:51,880
Speaker 30: after the Joe Burrow bombshell, just so we would be distracted.

1515
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:52,280
Speaker 11: Yep.

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Speaker 2: Very well done. Yep, smooth. So that would be.

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Speaker 3: Just over two and a half weeks if he plays

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Speaker 3: Thanksgiving from now.

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Speaker 2: Ma'am, oh boy, you want to talk about something to

1520
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 2: be thankful for. As the person doing the postgame show

1521
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:17,320
Speaker 2: that night, I'm very thankful that was our last one.

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Speaker 2: Very good, very good.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's do this, let's break and then let's

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01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 3: recap some stuff that Zach Taylor has been talking about

1525
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 3: since our talkback's been happening. Zach Taylor's been at the podium.

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Speaker 3: We'll recap some of what he's had to say and

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Speaker 3: get your set for hour number three. All still coming

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Speaker 3: up on the Monday Midday Quarterback on ESPN fifteen thirty,

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01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 8: A twin peaks in Westchester for the bye week edition

1531
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:39,720
Speaker 8: of The Tony and Mo Football Show, starting at three

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Speaker 8: oh five on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 6: This is Football in the NATI Grunch you in part

1534
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Speaker 6: by Bud Light and by Oakley Greens on ESPN fifteen thirty,

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01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 6: the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back.

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Speaker 3: It is Football in NATI Here number two, the Monday

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Speaker 3: Midday Quarterback on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati's Sports Station. The Bengals.

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01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:10,920
Speaker 3: Not only have they verbally made it official, they took

1540
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 3: a video of Joe Burrow entering the bubble today. Austin,

1541
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:16,720
Speaker 3: that's right, practice shoes either, he's got the cleats on.

1542
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 3: He's looks like he's going to be practicing. Are there

1543
01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:25,760
Speaker 3: any big takeaways we've seen from what Zach Taylor had

1544
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:29,600
Speaker 3: to say today. I know Trey Hendrickson is doubtful in

1545
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:33,960
Speaker 3: talking about his availability against the Pittsburgh Steelers, and that

1546
01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:37,479
Speaker 3: essentially Joe's in a very good spot in his rehab

1547
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:41,559
Speaker 3: process and he is ready for this role. Talked about

1548
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 3: a little bit of how much he's put in to

1549
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:48,800
Speaker 3: just get back to this spot of coming back early.

1550
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:51,599
Speaker 3: He does not have a prediction on when Joe Burrow

1551
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 3: would return to play, but obviously did go along with

1552
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:59,559
Speaker 3: everything in the thought of Joe Burrow returning to practice

1553
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:01,320
Speaker 3: for the Cincinnati Bengals.

1554
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, Zach basically said it's truly week to week. He'll

1555
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:07,280
Speaker 4: throw routes on air today at practice, but he did

1556
01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 4: say that he and Jake Browning will mix in reps

1557
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:13,639
Speaker 4: with the number one offense. Not abnormal for Jake Browning

1558
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 4: obviously as the backup to Joe Flacco to get some

1559
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:20,920
Speaker 4: of those reps. But yeah, he said, internally, this was

1560
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:24,839
Speaker 4: always a good timeline for us, but it is very limited.

1561
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:27,720
Speaker 4: Other than that, I think that pretty much took the

1562
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 4: cake as far as all the questions that were lobbed

1563
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:36,680
Speaker 4: at Zach Taylor today. Yeah, obviously the Trey Henderson thing

1564
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:39,760
Speaker 4: that he wasn't is not expected to play. They did

1565
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:43,400
Speaker 4: make a roster move earlier today, though, they signed linebacker

1566
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 4: Brian Assamoa off the practice squad to the active roster.

1567
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:49,080
Speaker 4: He's a fourth year player. He was with the practice

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01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:52,479
Speaker 4: on the practice squad last week did play against the Bears.

1569
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 4: They have then filled that void on the practice squad

1570
01:23:55,400 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 4: by signing linebacker and Twine Powell Ryland. He's a rookie

1571
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 4: out of Virgin Tech. He was drafted in the sixth

1572
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:05,160
Speaker 4: round by Philadelphia and was with the Eagles practice squad

1573
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 4: earlier this season. So tho are the only roster moves

1574
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:10,559
Speaker 4: obviously Hendrickson doubtful and Burrow returning to practice.

1575
01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:11,679
Speaker 2: You know, it's.

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01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:18,679
Speaker 3: It's just a surreal feeling because so many people lost

1577
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:24,280
Speaker 3: in want and have wanted Joe Burrow back, But coming

1578
01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:27,720
Speaker 3: off the last two losses in which the team was

1579
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 3: able to do what they did offensively and score thirty

1580
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:33,639
Speaker 3: eight and forty two both en route to a loss,

1581
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:37,080
Speaker 3: it does take away the shine from this a little bit, sure,

1582
01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 3: and it has I guess it should, at least for me,

1583
01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 3: And I know you have your circles and people that

1584
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:44,360
Speaker 3: talk to you, and whether it's social media or text

1585
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 3: message or whatever, the resounding thing that I've received up to.

1586
01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:51,280
Speaker 2: This point is why correct? Same here.

1587
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 3: Again, if this team scored, you know, if they were

1588
01:24:57,080 --> 01:24:59,560
Speaker 3: coming out of the Vikings and Bronco loss and this

1589
01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:02,880
Speaker 3: new was announced, the vibe would be different because they

1590
01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 3: scored ten and three in those games. What the offense

1591
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:11,679
Speaker 3: has done and still resulted in losses, I think takes

1592
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:14,000
Speaker 3: away a little of the juice of this towards Yes,

1593
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 3: it's awesome. Joe Burrow has worked his tail off. I

1594
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:18,839
Speaker 3: think it tells you a lot about the makeup physically

1595
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 3: and mentally of Joe Burrow that he's made it a point,

1596
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 3: no matter what's going on, to make it back for

1597
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:26,519
Speaker 3: this team. But there's also a large part of who

1598
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:28,720
Speaker 3: I've talked to or who I've heard from that say

1599
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 3: why yep?

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01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:31,639
Speaker 2: And that's the point.

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01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:35,760
Speaker 4: It's a totally fair response to this. If they had

1602
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 4: won the games they were supposed to win, it makes

1603
01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 4: a lot more sense. But on the other side of it,

1604
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 4: if he's healthy enough to play, why wouldn't he play?

1605
01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 3: I just go back to the sinking feeling. You know,

1606
01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 3: they beat Pittsburgh, and you think to yourself, Man five

1607
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:55,720
Speaker 3: and four to buy is attainable.

1608
01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 2: Yep.

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01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 3: Three and six is a different feel. Road trip to Pittsburgh,

1610
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:05,439
Speaker 3: one of the hottest teams in the NFL, come to

1611
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:09,280
Speaker 3: pay Corps, road trips to Baltimore and Buffalo, Baltimore back

1612
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:11,760
Speaker 3: here in Cincinnati. A road trip to Miami, who all

1613
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:15,799
Speaker 3: of a sudden seems to be playing better football. It's awesome,

1614
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:19,439
Speaker 3: but at the same time, there is that feel of

1615
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:23,519
Speaker 3: why let's take a break one final time here and

1616
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:25,519
Speaker 3: nour number two. We'll put a bowl on this. We'll

1617
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:27,600
Speaker 3: look ahead to our number three with Austin next on

1618
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:29,760
Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1619
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:34,320
Speaker 6: You've been listening to football in the NATI on ESPN

1620
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:38,480
Speaker 6: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

1621
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 2: From What's going on in the NFL.

1622
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:46,360
Speaker 7: Getting ESPN fifteen thirty from iHeartRadio.

1623
01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:59,320
Speaker 2: Welcome back. It is the Monday midday quarterback.

1624
01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:01,759
Speaker 3: You're listening on the Home of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen

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01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:06,280
Speaker 3: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Hour two coming to an end,

1626
01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 3: Austin has our number three. I'm heading to Westchester Twin Peaks,

1627
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:15,840
Speaker 3: the Tony and Mo Football Show. I know Joe Burrow

1628
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:17,920
Speaker 3: Austin is scheduled to meet with the media at two

1629
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:22,479
Speaker 3: forty between now and then then then.

1630
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:25,920
Speaker 2: Hey, Brian Kelly, what are you going to be talking about?

1631
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:28,400
Speaker 2: I would like to open up the phone lines.

1632
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 4: I just during the break I called our our number

1633
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:33,439
Speaker 4: five one three seven fifteen thirty, just to make sure

1634
01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:36,479
Speaker 4: it was working, because I don't think we've received a

1635
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:37,880
Speaker 4: single phone call.

1636
01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 2: People are still asleep. It's a bye week Monday.

1637
01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:43,800
Speaker 4: Well wake up, dude. I know some of you people

1638
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:46,240
Speaker 4: didn't have to work today. Some of you folks are

1639
01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:50,840
Speaker 4: working from home. Didn't brave the elements. But I kind

1640
01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:52,599
Speaker 4: of want to talk about what we just talked about

1641
01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:55,240
Speaker 4: in the last segment. Where do you fall? How do

1642
01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:57,720
Speaker 4: you feel about this? Yeah, I want to hear from

1643
01:27:57,760 --> 01:27:59,479
Speaker 4: our listeners. I want to hear from our audience. Five

1644
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:02,919
Speaker 4: one three four nine fifteen thirty. Do you feel excited?

1645
01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:07,720
Speaker 4: Do you feel bummed? Do you feel do you feel regret? Like,

1646
01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:12,840
Speaker 4: how do you feel about Joe Burrow potentially coming back

1647
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:17,680
Speaker 4: by Thanksgiving? Which is pretty amazing when you really think

1648
01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:21,160
Speaker 4: about it. So talk a lot about that and uh yeah,

1649
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:24,679
Speaker 4: and obviously we'll hear from Joe, So a'll be happening

1650
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:25,080
Speaker 4: at the end.

1651
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:28,519
Speaker 3: Awesome stuff and maybe maybe you guys, I don't know.

1652
01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:31,879
Speaker 3: We'll see Okay, I doubt it, but we'll see. Austin's

1653
01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 3: got a next. How late is Joe to his press conference?

1654
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 2: Oh? We might have to start the show with that.

1655
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:41,599
Speaker 3: Today the Monday Midday Quarterback, Austin's Got the Last Hour

1656
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:44,120
Speaker 3: Next on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:47,519
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Speaker 1: fifteen thirty, The official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:28,920
Speaker 4: Hi, Hello, and welcome in to Tony Pike's Monday Midday

1667
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:34,000
Speaker 4: Quarterback on ESPN fifteen thirty. My name is Austin Elmore.

1668
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:36,280
Speaker 4: You might be able to hear it in my voice

1669
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:39,559
Speaker 4: just a little bit. I'm just dismidge under the weather.

1670
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:43,800
Speaker 4: Don't have maybe the strongest voice that I've had in

1671
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:46,400
Speaker 4: the past, so I apologize for that. Spent a little

1672
01:29:46,439 --> 01:29:49,360
Speaker 4: too much time outside over the weekend, and I feel

1673
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:52,679
Speaker 4: like I get sick every November for like two weeks.

1674
01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:55,759
Speaker 4: I'm hoping this doesn't feel like a two week sickness.

1675
01:29:55,840 --> 01:30:01,439
Speaker 4: I'm hoping that I'm back to normal by tomorrow. Five one, three, seven, four, nine,

1676
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:03,960
Speaker 4: fifteen thirty. That's the phone number, and that's what I

1677
01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:07,280
Speaker 4: want you to call. That being said, I'm still having

1678
01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:10,240
Speaker 4: phone issues. I had some last week. For whatever reason,

1679
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:14,200
Speaker 4: it works in Tony's studio. It doesn't work in my studio,

1680
01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:17,960
Speaker 4: but I'm gonna still hopefully make it work and we

1681
01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:19,680
Speaker 4: have a couple of people on hold. I want to

1682
01:30:19,720 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 4: get your reaction to the Bengals activating or opening the

1683
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:28,120
Speaker 4: twenty one day window for Joe Burrow.

1684
01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:30,640
Speaker 2: I'll be honest, I'm shocked by this.

1685
01:30:31,479 --> 01:30:35,040
Speaker 4: I thought from the moment it happened, and everything I

1686
01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:37,240
Speaker 4: had read and all the people I had talked to

1687
01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:39,880
Speaker 4: and doctors that I had listened to, and I'd reached

1688
01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:42,040
Speaker 4: out the people that I know that are in that industry,

1689
01:30:42,680 --> 01:30:44,920
Speaker 4: and I'm like, can you make sense of this for me?

1690
01:30:45,800 --> 01:30:49,920
Speaker 4: And everything basically came back to it is a difficult,

1691
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:54,680
Speaker 4: fickle injury that can be nagging and be full of

1692
01:30:54,840 --> 01:31:00,439
Speaker 4: setbacks and can be frustrating to deal with, and NFL

1693
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:03,360
Speaker 4: players have a hard time with it due to the

1694
01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:07,679
Speaker 4: nature of the game and because of all of this information,

1695
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:10,639
Speaker 4: and because of what was labeled the severity of Burrow's

1696
01:31:10,720 --> 01:31:15,080
Speaker 4: injury which required surgery, I thought and set on the

1697
01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:18,720
Speaker 4: air many times, there's no chance Joe Burrow plays again

1698
01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:19,200
Speaker 4: this year.

1699
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:22,400
Speaker 2: I was adamant about that. I felt strongly about that.

1700
01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:26,280
Speaker 4: And for the news to come out today that they

1701
01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:31,320
Speaker 4: have activated his window twenty one days between now the

1702
01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:34,559
Speaker 4: next twenty one days he can be activated. That puts

1703
01:31:34,680 --> 01:31:37,479
Speaker 4: us at December first, which is at least two weeks

1704
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:43,760
Speaker 4: ahead of the initial timeline that was reported. That's incredible.

1705
01:31:44,840 --> 01:31:48,280
Speaker 4: That is very impressive for Joe Burrow. And right now,

1706
01:31:48,640 --> 01:31:51,840
Speaker 4: watching the videos of Bengals practice, it looks like a

1707
01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:57,360
Speaker 4: pretty normal Joe Burrow. He's moving around, he's taking snaps,

1708
01:31:57,400 --> 01:32:01,000
Speaker 4: he's dropping back, three step drop throat looks like the

1709
01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:05,400
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow we've always seen. Now how he feels tomorrow

1710
01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:08,960
Speaker 4: and the recovery process and the ongoing work that is

1711
01:32:09,080 --> 01:32:15,320
Speaker 4: required for such an injury will still tell us a lot.

1712
01:32:16,160 --> 01:32:20,720
Speaker 4: But the fact that Thanksgiving is in play, to me

1713
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:25,280
Speaker 4: is shocking and a testament to Joe Burrow and his

1714
01:32:25,439 --> 01:32:28,760
Speaker 4: body and his ability to heal, the doctors and the

1715
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:32,000
Speaker 4: people that worked on him, to Nick Crosgray and the

1716
01:32:32,040 --> 01:32:35,559
Speaker 4: Bengals training staff that have really by this point learned

1717
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:38,880
Speaker 4: a lot about Joe's body and how he recovers, and

1718
01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:41,720
Speaker 4: for them to be at this point just looking at

1719
01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:44,439
Speaker 4: it from the perspective of a human being and a

1720
01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:47,120
Speaker 4: football player and someone who I am a fan of,

1721
01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:51,520
Speaker 4: it is really impressive that this is even a possibility,

1722
01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:55,360
Speaker 4: and Joe deserves a ton of credit for putting his

1723
01:32:55,479 --> 01:32:57,920
Speaker 4: head down and working his butt off and trying to

1724
01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:02,720
Speaker 4: come back and to do it, especially now knowing that

1725
01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:05,960
Speaker 4: the season is really for the most part over, and

1726
01:33:06,120 --> 01:33:10,559
Speaker 4: that even with Joe Burrow, the defense is the worst

1727
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:13,400
Speaker 4: in the National Football League and on pace historically to

1728
01:33:13,479 --> 01:33:16,320
Speaker 4: be the worst that's ever played in the National Football League.

1729
01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:21,800
Speaker 4: Like it does leave a bad taste in your mouth.

1730
01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:25,840
Speaker 4: You're frustrated about the way that the last two weeks

1731
01:33:25,880 --> 01:33:29,599
Speaker 4: have gone. And if this had been a little bit different,

1732
01:33:29,680 --> 01:33:32,080
Speaker 4: then hope would be at an all time high and

1733
01:33:32,200 --> 01:33:34,919
Speaker 4: we'd be talking about another second half run for the Bengals.

1734
01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:38,200
Speaker 4: And it's not to say that that second half run

1735
01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:41,439
Speaker 4: is totally out of the equation, that it's totally out

1736
01:33:41,439 --> 01:33:45,560
Speaker 4: of the picture. I don't think it is, because you

1737
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:48,560
Speaker 4: just never know in this league. But I would have

1738
01:33:48,640 --> 01:33:51,360
Speaker 4: a hard time believing that this Bengals defense all of

1739
01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:54,840
Speaker 4: a sudden is just going to get better. That being said,

1740
01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:57,920
Speaker 4: you could make a similar case for the Baltimore Ravens

1741
01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:01,880
Speaker 4: that defense was really bad the first five or six

1742
01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:04,400
Speaker 4: weeks of the year. They've rebounded nicely.

1743
01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:04,680
Speaker 7: Now.

1744
01:34:04,720 --> 01:34:07,360
Speaker 4: They went out, they improved their team, they got a

1745
01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:11,800
Speaker 4: little bit healthier, They made and had some strides that

1746
01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:14,760
Speaker 4: pushed them forward. But that is a team that has

1747
01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:19,080
Speaker 4: turned it around. And maybe the Bengals learned something about themselves,

1748
01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:28,599
Speaker 4: excuse me, during the bye week. Maybe the self scouting

1749
01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:35,400
Speaker 4: actually worked. Maybe it actually happened. Maybe the Bengals were

1750
01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:41,840
Speaker 4: able to learn something about them and about themselves this week,

1751
01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:44,200
Speaker 4: and maybe it can be a good thing and by

1752
01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 4: the way, I don't think it's ridiculous. I said this earlier.

1753
01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:51,639
Speaker 4: For the Bengals to beat the Pittsburgh Steelers, the team

1754
01:34:51,680 --> 01:34:53,639
Speaker 4: that I watched last night, the team that played against

1755
01:34:53,640 --> 01:34:56,080
Speaker 4: the Bengals the first time. It's not like they are

1756
01:34:56,240 --> 01:35:00,760
Speaker 4: heads and shoulders above who the Bengals are. It's not

1757
01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:04,000
Speaker 4: that different of a team. Like I don't think there's

1758
01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:10,120
Speaker 4: a huge gap between the two, and so there is

1759
01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:14,080
Speaker 4: always reason to be excited when the best player on

1760
01:35:14,280 --> 01:35:20,240
Speaker 4: your team is playing football. Joe Burrow and what he

1761
01:35:20,479 --> 01:35:26,680
Speaker 4: means to Bengals fans is simple. He means hope. When

1762
01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:29,960
Speaker 4: you have Joe Burrow, there is hope. Now, the argument

1763
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:33,080
Speaker 4: could be made by a lot of people that say

1764
01:35:35,720 --> 01:35:39,439
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow does not equal hope because this defense steals

1765
01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:41,559
Speaker 4: all of it, and I would hear that, I would

1766
01:35:41,640 --> 01:35:42,160
Speaker 4: understand that.

1767
01:35:42,320 --> 01:35:42,720
Speaker 2: I get it.

1768
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:47,400
Speaker 4: But if nothing else, what Joe means to this franchise

1769
01:35:47,640 --> 01:35:50,799
Speaker 4: as a whole is that as long as he's playing,

1770
01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:54,559
Speaker 4: we have a chance. That's how most Bengals fans feel,

1771
01:35:55,960 --> 01:35:59,200
Speaker 4: and we saw it in twenty one, we saw it

1772
01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:03,040
Speaker 4: in twenty two. We saw at the end of last

1773
01:36:03,120 --> 01:36:06,920
Speaker 4: season when he found a way to get this team

1774
01:36:07,040 --> 01:36:11,320
Speaker 4: to win five straight games despite a really bad defense.

1775
01:36:11,439 --> 01:36:14,160
Speaker 4: Then they were able to make some progress and beat

1776
01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:17,639
Speaker 4: some good teams, and they just narrowly missed the playoffs.

1777
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:21,680
Speaker 2: Now are the playoffs of reality this year? I don't know.

1778
01:36:22,840 --> 01:36:27,280
Speaker 4: I feel like they aren't. But if nothing else, a

1779
01:36:27,400 --> 01:36:31,280
Speaker 4: team that was pretty difficult to watch becomes a lot

1780
01:36:31,360 --> 01:36:36,639
Speaker 4: easier to watch, becomes a lot more interesting. His role

1781
01:36:37,160 --> 01:36:41,360
Speaker 4: in the organization when it comes to how much he

1782
01:36:42,280 --> 01:36:44,800
Speaker 4: has to say in those rooms with Duke Tobin and

1783
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:45,920
Speaker 4: Zach Taylor and Mike.

1784
01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:46,479
Speaker 2: Brown and others.

1785
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:51,080
Speaker 4: When you see what you felt like it was a

1786
01:36:51,160 --> 01:36:53,200
Speaker 4: lost season for him, If he's able to come back

1787
01:36:53,240 --> 01:36:57,800
Speaker 4: in any way, how the offense has improved without him,

1788
01:36:58,120 --> 01:37:01,040
Speaker 4: and how that can help him, and maybe a chance

1789
01:37:01,080 --> 01:37:04,639
Speaker 4: to see what has he learned from Joe Flacco. These

1790
01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:06,479
Speaker 4: are all the things that I'm most excited to hear

1791
01:37:06,520 --> 01:37:10,000
Speaker 4: about when it comes to Joe Burrow today, I want

1792
01:37:10,040 --> 01:37:12,320
Speaker 4: to hear from you, and I hope this works. I

1793
01:37:12,479 --> 01:37:14,800
Speaker 4: really do hope this works. I'm going to try to

1794
01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:17,559
Speaker 4: talk to Brian and Ford Thomas. I'm going to try

1795
01:37:17,600 --> 01:37:19,400
Speaker 4: to put him on the air, but I don't know

1796
01:37:19,439 --> 01:37:21,040
Speaker 4: if it's gonna work, Brian.

1797
01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:21,800
Speaker 2: Can you hear me?

1798
01:37:23,160 --> 01:37:23,280
Speaker 36: Oh?

1799
01:37:23,360 --> 01:37:24,840
Speaker 23: I can hear you. Can you hear me?

1800
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:25,600
Speaker 2: I can hear you.

1801
01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:26,000
Speaker 34: Brian?

1802
01:37:26,080 --> 01:37:26,840
Speaker 2: What's on your mind?

1803
01:37:28,120 --> 01:37:28,280
Speaker 9: Oh?

1804
01:37:29,120 --> 01:37:32,880
Speaker 23: Just out working today, listening to UH sports talk radio.

1805
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:37,960
Speaker 23: But so I have question, what do you because what

1806
01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:40,840
Speaker 23: do you think about Mike Tomlin? Because I have no

1807
01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:43,639
Speaker 23: faith in this coaching stamp. And if Mike Commlin became

1808
01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:47,799
Speaker 23: available and was last the Steelers, I wanted the Bangles

1809
01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:52,200
Speaker 23: suit him healthily because I I have no faith. And

1810
01:37:52,240 --> 01:37:55,960
Speaker 23: the thing about Joe coming back, which I really appreciated

1811
01:37:56,040 --> 01:37:59,760
Speaker 23: if he did come back, that he would give Zach

1812
01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:02,680
Speaker 23: we had the excuse of I had my quarterback. That's

1813
01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:04,920
Speaker 23: why the season's hills asked, I want that gone.

1814
01:38:05,400 --> 01:38:06,160
Speaker 1: I have no faith.

1815
01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:08,840
Speaker 23: I just don't like his leadership. I don't think that

1816
01:38:08,920 --> 01:38:15,519
Speaker 23: he's responding. And I'm so frustrated by that in Skalers

1817
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:17,000
Speaker 23: fans talking about Mike comin.

1818
01:38:17,160 --> 01:38:17,400
Speaker 17: He's not.

1819
01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:20,080
Speaker 23: The issue is that they don't quarterback back in play.

1820
01:38:20,920 --> 01:38:22,760
Speaker 23: And I would take him in a heartbeat. I think

1821
01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:24,479
Speaker 23: he's been a one coach for a long time.

1822
01:38:25,479 --> 01:38:26,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting.

1823
01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:28,679
Speaker 4: I know a lot of people have kind of soured

1824
01:38:28,760 --> 01:38:31,360
Speaker 4: a lot of Pittsburgh fans have soured on Mike Tomlin

1825
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:34,840
Speaker 4: in recent years. I do think there is a little

1826
01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:39,720
Speaker 4: bit of like the Marvin Lewis thing with him. I

1827
01:38:39,800 --> 01:38:42,479
Speaker 4: think when it comes to analytics, he embraces it the

1828
01:38:42,600 --> 01:38:46,200
Speaker 4: least of any team in the NFL. Nobody punts more

1829
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:48,560
Speaker 4: when they should go for it than Mike Tomlin. So

1830
01:38:48,600 --> 01:38:51,640
Speaker 4: I don't love that from him. I don't love that,

1831
01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:53,640
Speaker 4: you know, kind of like Marvin Lewis. He can't win

1832
01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:56,679
Speaker 4: a primetime game. They've now lost five straight primetime games.

1833
01:38:57,160 --> 01:39:00,679
Speaker 4: I think he's well respected, but I think think much

1834
01:39:00,720 --> 01:39:04,000
Speaker 4: of the same issues that they have in Pittsburgh are

1835
01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:07,360
Speaker 4: the ones that they have in Cincinnati. And I don't know,

1836
01:39:07,479 --> 01:39:11,519
Speaker 4: and Mike has struggled to hire offensive minds that fit

1837
01:39:11,720 --> 01:39:14,040
Speaker 4: what he can do, and he finally got some support

1838
01:39:14,160 --> 01:39:16,840
Speaker 4: this year and the Steelers building around that offense a

1839
01:39:16,880 --> 01:39:19,479
Speaker 4: little bit. You're right, the quarterback play has not been

1840
01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:21,080
Speaker 4: good and he does get a bit of a pass.

1841
01:39:21,680 --> 01:39:25,479
Speaker 4: I don't know that the Bengals would pursue him. I

1842
01:39:25,560 --> 01:39:28,080
Speaker 4: don't know how interested I would be in him, just

1843
01:39:28,200 --> 01:39:31,160
Speaker 4: because it feels a lot like a Marvin Lewis to me.

1844
01:39:33,479 --> 01:39:34,439
Speaker 23: Yeah, no, I see that.

1845
01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:35,880
Speaker 31: I just I know.

1846
01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:38,800
Speaker 23: I I mean back when he back when Ben was

1847
01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:42,280
Speaker 23: in his prime, that team where the perennial you know,

1848
01:39:43,479 --> 01:39:46,200
Speaker 23: you know, a perennial chance with super bowling. I'm like,

1849
01:39:46,280 --> 01:39:49,360
Speaker 23: if we could drabs more smartly and not just take

1850
01:39:49,400 --> 01:39:53,479
Speaker 23: these prospects and have some leadership and have a quarterback,

1851
01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:57,519
Speaker 23: I don't know why we could win. I feel like

1852
01:39:57,600 --> 01:40:02,680
Speaker 23: there's just there's something missing with the way that we're

1853
01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:03,479
Speaker 23: communicated to.

1854
01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:04,280
Speaker 11: I don't know.

1855
01:40:04,400 --> 01:40:08,800
Speaker 23: Maybe it's just us as fans, but like he's like says, oh,

1856
01:40:08,880 --> 01:40:11,120
Speaker 23: everything's okay. I have full faith in these players. These

1857
01:40:11,120 --> 01:40:13,120
Speaker 23: players can't tackle. What he told me of faith in

1858
01:40:13,160 --> 01:40:15,600
Speaker 23: these defensive players, I have faith. Why would you have

1859
01:40:15,680 --> 01:40:16,559
Speaker 23: faith in these guys?

1860
01:40:16,720 --> 01:40:19,960
Speaker 4: Like he also he also said that he has complete

1861
01:40:20,040 --> 01:40:22,719
Speaker 4: confidence in Jake Browning and then two weeks later traded

1862
01:40:22,760 --> 01:40:23,479
Speaker 4: for Joe Flacco.

1863
01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:28,200
Speaker 23: Yeah, so maybe it's what's more seams to the outside.

1864
01:40:28,240 --> 01:40:28,800
Speaker 22: But it's just.

1865
01:40:30,680 --> 01:40:33,600
Speaker 23: I just don't trust this coaching staff any longer. I

1866
01:40:33,680 --> 01:40:35,840
Speaker 23: feel like it's kind of going off the rails and

1867
01:40:35,960 --> 01:40:37,679
Speaker 23: it's not coming back.

1868
01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:40,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's fair, Brian, And thank you for

1869
01:40:40,360 --> 01:40:41,600
Speaker 2: the phone call. I appreciated it.

1870
01:40:42,320 --> 01:40:46,200
Speaker 4: That's totally fair, completely fair to not trust them anymore

1871
01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:49,080
Speaker 4: because I think there's a lot of ways they've worn

1872
01:40:49,120 --> 01:40:52,400
Speaker 4: out there welcome. I've said before, all roads lead back

1873
01:40:52,439 --> 01:40:56,599
Speaker 4: to Zach Taylor. He has a significant hand in hiring

1874
01:40:56,640 --> 01:40:59,320
Speaker 4: his own staff, and there have been a bunch of

1875
01:40:59,400 --> 01:41:04,360
Speaker 4: guys that just don't really feel like they are the

1876
01:41:04,479 --> 01:41:07,400
Speaker 4: best position coach that they could be. I think Troy

1877
01:41:07,479 --> 01:41:10,759
Speaker 4: Walters is an elite position coach. I think Dan Pitcher

1878
01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:13,680
Speaker 4: is a really good offensive coordinator. I like Justin Rascotti.

1879
01:41:14,640 --> 01:41:18,360
Speaker 4: But outside of that, they've been through multiple offensive line coaches,

1880
01:41:18,479 --> 01:41:21,800
Speaker 4: multiple defensive line coaches. My multiple linebackers now onto their

1881
01:41:21,880 --> 01:41:27,640
Speaker 4: second defensive coordinator. Meanwhile, the secondary hasn't really taken a

1882
01:41:27,680 --> 01:41:30,240
Speaker 4: step forward, and those two guys, Jordan Kovacs and Charles

1883
01:41:30,280 --> 01:41:33,760
Speaker 4: Burke's have been there the whole time. Like when it

1884
01:41:33,880 --> 01:41:37,400
Speaker 4: comes back to the Bengals specifically and what they require

1885
01:41:37,439 --> 01:41:40,400
Speaker 4: of their assistant coaches, it does require you to have

1886
01:41:41,320 --> 01:41:47,080
Speaker 4: extensive experience and talent evaluation scouting and also be a

1887
01:41:47,160 --> 01:41:51,040
Speaker 4: really good hands on coach. And Zach I think has

1888
01:41:51,160 --> 01:41:56,960
Speaker 4: failed to surround to put the right staff members in place,

1889
01:41:57,439 --> 01:42:00,560
Speaker 4: and that makes it harder on him, it harder to

1890
01:42:00,640 --> 01:42:02,400
Speaker 4: draft and makes it harder on Duke Tobin.

1891
01:42:03,840 --> 01:42:04,479
Speaker 2: I love Zack.

1892
01:42:04,520 --> 01:42:07,160
Speaker 4: I'm a big Zach guy, but I do feel like

1893
01:42:07,360 --> 01:42:11,439
Speaker 4: all roads lead back to him. And the other part

1894
01:42:11,479 --> 01:42:13,799
Speaker 4: of it is, Okay, let's say you fire Zach Taylor.

1895
01:42:14,600 --> 01:42:17,599
Speaker 4: Let's say you bring in Mike Tomlin. The people at

1896
01:42:17,640 --> 01:42:21,120
Speaker 4: the top that are still making the most decisions are

1897
01:42:22,720 --> 01:42:26,320
Speaker 4: Duke Tobin and Mike Brown, and that, in and of itself,

1898
01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:29,360
Speaker 4: that general philosophy I don't think will change very much.

1899
01:42:30,040 --> 01:42:30,160
Speaker 11: Now.

1900
01:42:30,240 --> 01:42:34,000
Speaker 4: Could Tomlin get more better assistant coaches, maybe, could he

1901
01:42:34,120 --> 01:42:39,519
Speaker 4: have more influence on certain things, perhaps, But the Bengals

1902
01:42:39,560 --> 01:42:42,040
Speaker 4: have a very specific way of doing business that I

1903
01:42:42,120 --> 01:42:44,920
Speaker 4: don't expect to change no matter who the coach is.

1904
01:42:45,680 --> 01:42:48,360
Speaker 4: So when you bring in a new head coach, it

1905
01:42:48,479 --> 01:42:50,799
Speaker 4: has to be somebody who is the elite of the elite.

1906
01:42:52,439 --> 01:42:55,200
Speaker 4: Somebody who's a great motivator, somebody who's a great hands

1907
01:42:55,240 --> 01:42:58,599
Speaker 4: on guy, somebody who's a great scout, Somebody who can

1908
01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:02,559
Speaker 4: hire a staff that possesses those qualities as well, somebody

1909
01:43:02,560 --> 01:43:06,040
Speaker 4: who's excellent exs. Know's somebody who can develop talent and

1910
01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:11,320
Speaker 4: get the most out of younger, cheaper players. That's what

1911
01:43:11,800 --> 01:43:15,000
Speaker 4: that's what you have to be to be a Bengals

1912
01:43:15,040 --> 01:43:17,759
Speaker 4: head coach. Let's go to JT in Cincinnati.

1913
01:43:17,800 --> 01:43:22,360
Speaker 2: What's up? JT? Hey, Audie, how's the calling? Buddy good Man?

1914
01:43:24,960 --> 01:43:28,120
Speaker 35: So being a Bengals fay it kind of reminds me

1915
01:43:28,400 --> 01:43:31,439
Speaker 35: of when I was in my early twenties and I

1916
01:43:31,640 --> 01:43:34,280
Speaker 35: was dating this check. I don't want to say she

1917
01:43:34,400 --> 01:43:36,960
Speaker 35: was out of my league, but in retrospect, she was

1918
01:43:37,040 --> 01:43:39,680
Speaker 35: kind of out of my league. And when things were

1919
01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:43,560
Speaker 35: going great in a relationship, it was the best. It

1920
01:43:43,680 --> 01:43:47,120
Speaker 35: was euphoria. You know, it was like just one date night,

1921
01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:51,240
Speaker 35: it was magical. Well, things got bad, they got really bad,

1922
01:43:52,120 --> 01:43:55,960
Speaker 35: and I equate that to the Bengals, and the things

1923
01:43:56,040 --> 01:44:00,519
Speaker 35: got progressively worse, and no matter what, you know, I

1924
01:44:00,600 --> 01:44:02,599
Speaker 35: get three or four weeks, maybe a couple of months,

1925
01:44:02,640 --> 01:44:04,560
Speaker 35: and I was like, why am I doing this?

1926
01:44:04,720 --> 01:44:05,439
Speaker 2: What is going on?

1927
01:44:06,120 --> 01:44:09,000
Speaker 35: And then there'd be that one date, or for the

1928
01:44:09,040 --> 01:44:11,320
Speaker 35: Bengals case, it would be like that one game. It

1929
01:44:11,320 --> 01:44:13,560
Speaker 35: would get my hops back up that oh, this is

1930
01:44:13,640 --> 01:44:16,240
Speaker 35: going to be the trajectory of our relationship, or this

1931
01:44:16,400 --> 01:44:19,599
Speaker 35: is going to be the trajectory of our season. But ultimately,

1932
01:44:19,720 --> 01:44:22,519
Speaker 35: you know, things didn't work out with this woman. I

1933
01:44:22,600 --> 01:44:26,720
Speaker 35: think it's for best. But anyway, I could quit her,

1934
01:44:27,160 --> 01:44:30,360
Speaker 35: but I cannot quit the Cincinnati Bingals, no matter how

1935
01:44:30,560 --> 01:44:34,360
Speaker 35: hard and how often they break my heart. And it's

1936
01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:37,200
Speaker 35: just a sad state of affairs. Maybe I should be

1937
01:44:37,240 --> 01:44:38,280
Speaker 35: sticking with my therapist.

1938
01:44:38,360 --> 01:44:40,000
Speaker 2: But would love to get your take on that.

1939
01:44:40,680 --> 01:44:43,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, John JT, thank you for the phone call. I mean, yes,

1940
01:44:43,600 --> 01:44:46,439
Speaker 4: I've said this before that being a Bengals fan, or

1941
01:44:46,520 --> 01:44:50,439
Speaker 4: being a fan of any professional sports team is like

1942
01:44:50,600 --> 01:44:54,599
Speaker 4: being in a relationship, and specifically about being in a marriage. Now,

1943
01:44:54,640 --> 01:44:57,560
Speaker 4: I'm not married, and I can't speak wholly to what

1944
01:44:57,680 --> 01:45:01,360
Speaker 4: it's like to be married. But you choose that person.

1945
01:45:01,640 --> 01:45:04,439
Speaker 4: You choose to live and to love with that person

1946
01:45:04,520 --> 01:45:07,400
Speaker 4: and to build a family, and you're gonna go through

1947
01:45:07,479 --> 01:45:09,639
Speaker 4: crap together. You're gonna be days when you can't stand

1948
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Speaker 4: each other, days where you're mad at each other, days

1949
01:45:11,520 --> 01:45:13,840
Speaker 4: where one of you sleeping on a couch, But the

1950
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Speaker 4: end of the day, you come back to that person

1951
01:45:17,520 --> 01:45:20,479
Speaker 4: because you've committed to them and chosen to build your

1952
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Speaker 4: life together. Now, the difference between a fan and a

1953
01:45:25,840 --> 01:45:28,680
Speaker 4: fan and a team compared to two people in a

1954
01:45:28,720 --> 01:45:31,440
Speaker 4: relationship is when you are two people in a relationship,

1955
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Speaker 4: you have an equal say to the decisions. You discuss

1956
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Speaker 4: where you're gonna send your kids to school, you discuss

1957
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Speaker 4: how you're gonna divvy up your finances, You discuss what

1958
01:45:40,439 --> 01:45:44,360
Speaker 4: each other needs and wants from one another. In day

1959
01:45:44,400 --> 01:45:47,960
Speaker 4: to day life, you don't get that say. As a

1960
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Speaker 4: fan of a team, you have expectations, you have standards,

1961
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:54,080
Speaker 4: you have a way that you want them to do business.

1962
01:45:55,160 --> 01:45:59,600
Speaker 4: But your voice isn't really heard. You don't have that

1963
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Speaker 4: much of an impact, and so it can be difficult.

1964
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Speaker 4: But you've chosen and committed to this particular team, and

1965
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Speaker 4: you can choose to leave any time you want to.

1966
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Speaker 4: But that's that's how it is. Like the thing I

1967
01:46:16,120 --> 01:46:19,040
Speaker 4: always say to get myself through it is one of

1968
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Speaker 4: these days, it's all going to be worth it. That

1969
01:46:23,360 --> 01:46:26,760
Speaker 4: feeling of when they do win the Super Bowl is

1970
01:46:26,920 --> 01:46:29,880
Speaker 4: going to be better than all the pain that I've

1971
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Speaker 4: suffered over the course of my years as a Bengals fan.

1972
01:46:33,479 --> 01:46:35,720
Speaker 4: I think a lot about I just want them to

1973
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Speaker 4: win one before my dad dies. That to me, like,

1974
01:46:39,479 --> 01:46:42,639
Speaker 4: that's my whole goal is can the Bengals win one

1975
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Speaker 4: before my dad dies? Because he's been was a season

1976
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Speaker 4: ticket holder, for a long time and a die hard

1977
01:46:48,840 --> 01:46:50,479
Speaker 4: and raised me and my dad is the reason I'm

1978
01:46:50,479 --> 01:46:53,519
Speaker 4: here today. So I think of all that, and that's

1979
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Speaker 4: where it gets interesting, the interwoven relationships and connections that

1980
01:46:57,400 --> 01:47:01,519
Speaker 4: you have as human that are based around football and

1981
01:47:01,600 --> 01:47:04,040
Speaker 4: the football team and what it means to so many people.

1982
01:47:04,200 --> 01:47:05,519
Speaker 4: It's like, when I was in Green Bay, I was

1983
01:47:05,600 --> 01:47:09,880
Speaker 4: just blown away by how much football means to those people,

1984
01:47:10,040 --> 01:47:12,639
Speaker 4: and how it's interwoven in every part of their community,

1985
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Speaker 4: and the deep care that they have for the game

1986
01:47:17,360 --> 01:47:19,400
Speaker 4: and the deep impact it has had on all of

1987
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Speaker 4: their families. That's when you really start to realize how

1988
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Speaker 4: much of an impact it has on people. So JT

1989
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Speaker 4: I feel like maybe you should go talk to a therapist.

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Speaker 2: But it's okay.

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Speaker 4: To stick with the Bengals. We'll take a break. More

1992
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Speaker 4: phone calls Next ESPN fifteen thirty Welcome back Tony Pike's

1993
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Speaker 4: Monday midday quarterback ESPN fifteen thirty. I'm Austin onmore. Joe

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Speaker 4: Burrow talks about fifteen minutes. Will carry it live for

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Speaker 4: you right here on the home of the Cincinnati Bengals,

1996
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Speaker 4: but taking phone calls, your reaction to the news that

1997
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Speaker 4: Burrow's twenty one day practice window has opened, and the report,

1998
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Speaker 4: according to Jay Glazer, that Burrow expects to return to

1999
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Speaker 4: action by Thanksgiving. We'll give you more on that as

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Speaker 4: we go. Let's go to Paul in Cleeves. What's up, Paul, Hey, Audie,

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Speaker 4: I just.

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Speaker 17: Wanted to clarify my talk back. I was listening and

2003
01:48:25,800 --> 01:48:30,920
Speaker 17: I thought, oh, that sounds stupid. Anyway, I was literally

2004
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Speaker 17: thinking about this today when you were talking about you know,

2005
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Speaker 17: games in Germany and England and things like that, and

2006
01:48:37,600 --> 01:48:40,280
Speaker 17: they always say one team loses a home game, Well,

2007
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Speaker 17: why can't they just take away one of the one

2008
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Speaker 17: of their away games of each team? You know what

2009
01:48:46,200 --> 01:48:48,360
Speaker 17: I'm saying, Like, you could still make them a home team,

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Speaker 17: but you don't take away that home game at their

2011
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Speaker 17: home stadium. You know what I'm saying, You just take

2012
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Speaker 17: away an away game for each team.

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Speaker 4: Well, that I think affects the like the way the

2014
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Speaker 4: scheduling works for everybody else, like, because there's like it's

2015
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Speaker 4: it's a very set you know, uh way that the

2016
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Speaker 4: scheduling works, and it's all planned out years ahead of time,

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Speaker 4: and you get nine home games and eight road games,

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Speaker 4: and then you get eight home games and nine road games,

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Speaker 4: so that the fact that it's uneven as well, you know,

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Speaker 4: it wouldn't work because there's a there has to be

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Speaker 4: a designated home team for each So I got you.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I got you.

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Speaker 23: But that's that was basically that's how I was trying

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Speaker 23: to explain that.

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Speaker 2: I get what you're saying, Paul, thank you for the phone.

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Speaker 35: Yep.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know that I could actually explain it

2028
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Speaker 4: because without confusing myself and everybody else. But just from

2029
01:49:47,520 --> 01:49:51,080
Speaker 4: like a I think from a mathematics standpoint, it would

2030
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Speaker 4: be impossible to do that and keep everyone on the

2031
01:49:53,479 --> 01:49:57,080
Speaker 4: same schedule. Now, eventually they're going to go to uh,

2032
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Speaker 4: you know, nineteen games or whatever it is, and every

2033
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:03,200
Speaker 4: everybody's going to play an international game, and then it

2034
01:50:03,280 --> 01:50:07,840
Speaker 4: will work because you'll have the nine home games, nine

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Speaker 4: road games, and then one neutral site game. That's that's

2036
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Speaker 4: what I think eventually they're going to do. Let's go

2037
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Speaker 4: to call her number five caller. I don't know your name,

2038
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Speaker 4: What is your name? What would you like to talk about?

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Speaker 2: This is Ian?

2040
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Speaker 13: Am I on?

2041
01:50:23,960 --> 01:50:25,120
Speaker 2: Yeah? Ian, you're on? What's up?

2042
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Speaker 7: Man? Hey?

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Speaker 5: Sorry dude. It was just a seamless transition you know, yeah,

2044
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Speaker 5: it didn't prompt me for anyways, it doesn't matter, So

2045
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Speaker 5: I get I've left my goofy talk backs about like

2046
01:50:38,560 --> 01:50:42,000
Speaker 5: the most hopium thing you could think, and in my opinion,

2047
01:50:42,040 --> 01:50:47,720
Speaker 5: would be so Cincinnati Joe Burrow comes back early and

2048
01:50:47,840 --> 01:50:51,479
Speaker 5: the defense suddenly like you know, turns it on and

2049
01:50:51,560 --> 01:50:55,639
Speaker 5: they sneak into the playoffs by you know, by their

2050
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Speaker 5: ability to have enough wins in the.

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Speaker 35: You know, in our division or whatever.

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Speaker 5: The only reason I think it's possible because like what happened,

2053
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Speaker 5: Like I know that NFL teams figure defenses out as

2054
01:51:13,960 --> 01:51:17,840
Speaker 5: the season goes and they expose them, but it's like, hey,

2055
01:51:17,960 --> 01:51:21,040
Speaker 5: they were kind of playing a little better early, you know,

2056
01:51:22,080 --> 01:51:26,680
Speaker 5: And that's my only hope is like maybe possibly if

2057
01:51:26,720 --> 01:51:28,080
Speaker 5: we could just tackle.

2058
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Speaker 35: I mean, it's a simple concept.

2059
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Speaker 5: And I left the talk back that it couldn't be

2060
01:51:34,040 --> 01:51:37,280
Speaker 5: played because there were so many people leaving them because

2061
01:51:37,280 --> 01:51:40,080
Speaker 5: they're so upset after that last loss. But like if

2062
01:51:40,120 --> 01:51:44,639
Speaker 5: you watch, it's like on repeat, man, the same type

2063
01:51:44,680 --> 01:51:48,320
Speaker 5: of like not grabbing. It's like they're trying to hit

2064
01:51:49,320 --> 01:51:51,960
Speaker 5: or like last year they were guilty of like trying

2065
01:51:52,000 --> 01:51:54,280
Speaker 5: to do the whole Pratt strip thing and it's like,

2066
01:51:55,280 --> 01:51:59,120
Speaker 5: can we just do that foundational thing, that one thing

2067
01:51:59,200 --> 01:52:01,080
Speaker 5: if they could work on coming out of the buy.

2068
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Speaker 5: Do you think it's possible that they could be a

2069
01:52:03,800 --> 01:52:06,920
Speaker 5: little better. I feel like it's a possibility, you.

2070
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Speaker 35: Know what I'm saying.

2071
01:52:07,840 --> 01:52:10,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I used to say in the past,

2072
01:52:10,720 --> 01:52:13,519
Speaker 4: like it's that they can't possibly be worse. But they've

2073
01:52:13,600 --> 01:52:16,200
Speaker 4: proven me wrong that they can be worse. So I

2074
01:52:16,320 --> 01:52:19,439
Speaker 4: have to make space for that possibility. But I do

2075
01:52:19,560 --> 01:52:21,519
Speaker 4: think there's an argument to be made that if you

2076
01:52:21,600 --> 01:52:24,479
Speaker 4: have four players in the top ten in miss tackles

2077
01:52:24,520 --> 01:52:27,559
Speaker 4: in the NFL, then you are at least having guys

2078
01:52:27,760 --> 01:52:31,599
Speaker 4: in position to make tackles and to swarm to the football,

2079
01:52:32,000 --> 01:52:34,280
Speaker 4: but they just aren't doing it. If they can get

2080
01:52:34,479 --> 01:52:37,840
Speaker 4: marginally better at miss tackles, you would think that would

2081
01:52:37,880 --> 01:52:42,439
Speaker 4: make them a better defense, much much better than what

2082
01:52:42,560 --> 01:52:45,160
Speaker 4: they have been. I mean, hell, maybe they make that

2083
01:52:45,320 --> 01:52:48,160
Speaker 4: tackle against the Bears and they get a sack or

2084
01:52:48,439 --> 01:52:50,840
Speaker 4: a fumble or he misses the field goal, and who

2085
01:52:50,920 --> 01:52:53,639
Speaker 4: knows what happens, But it starts with, as you mentioned,

2086
01:52:53,720 --> 01:52:56,479
Speaker 4: the bare minimum, which is being able to tackle. Are

2087
01:52:56,520 --> 01:52:58,280
Speaker 4: they gonna do it? I have no idea. I have

2088
01:52:58,439 --> 01:53:01,040
Speaker 4: no reason to believe that they should. I've not seen

2089
01:53:01,120 --> 01:53:03,479
Speaker 4: signs of progress from any of these young players on

2090
01:53:03,560 --> 01:53:06,560
Speaker 4: this defense outside of DJ Turner. I don't believe in

2091
01:53:06,600 --> 01:53:09,280
Speaker 4: the coaching staff. I don't believe in the scheme. So

2092
01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:11,439
Speaker 4: I get the hope of them, but I don't have

2093
01:53:11,560 --> 01:53:13,480
Speaker 4: any of it when it comes to the defense.

2094
01:53:14,840 --> 01:53:15,759
Speaker 35: Well one hundred percent.

2095
01:53:15,880 --> 01:53:18,160
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, it's just some down I've been

2096
01:53:18,280 --> 01:53:20,400
Speaker 5: down in the dump, so I mean it has really

2097
01:53:20,560 --> 01:53:24,040
Speaker 5: dragged on me. It shouldn't, but this just, ah, man,

2098
01:53:24,120 --> 01:53:28,080
Speaker 5: it's like we get so close and with the misalignment

2099
01:53:28,200 --> 01:53:30,680
Speaker 5: of like not picking up players like you saw it

2100
01:53:30,840 --> 01:53:34,800
Speaker 5: coming in February, the whole talking and it's just like, really,

2101
01:53:34,920 --> 01:53:38,200
Speaker 5: are we really gonna waste the Joe but Burrow air

2102
01:53:38,439 --> 01:53:41,120
Speaker 5: like that and uh, just being kind of goofy. But

2103
01:53:42,520 --> 01:53:46,000
Speaker 5: you know, my whole belief in that because I mean

2104
01:53:46,000 --> 01:53:48,280
Speaker 5: I listen to Rogan and you hear about these guys

2105
01:53:48,840 --> 01:53:52,440
Speaker 5: and rogers like taking steps. I mean, it's freaking possible

2106
01:53:52,560 --> 01:53:56,080
Speaker 5: that that's why he sped up, or maybe it's just

2107
01:53:56,280 --> 01:54:00,519
Speaker 5: happenstance that his injury was in the realm of really

2108
01:54:00,640 --> 01:54:03,560
Speaker 5: bad injuries, but he got lucky and he's just a

2109
01:54:03,640 --> 01:54:06,840
Speaker 5: hard worker. And maybe it has nothing to do with

2110
01:54:07,080 --> 01:54:10,000
Speaker 5: like going and taking stem cells or whatever, But I

2111
01:54:10,880 --> 01:54:12,920
Speaker 5: don't know, man, I'm just gonna keep my hope in

2112
01:54:13,000 --> 01:54:15,640
Speaker 5: there because what else can we do? You know what

2113
01:54:15,720 --> 01:54:16,000
Speaker 5: I mean?

2114
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Speaker 4: That's a good point, man. Yeah, thank you for the

2115
01:54:18,160 --> 01:54:22,320
Speaker 4: phone call. I appreciate it. I mean, yeah, hopeful excitement.

2116
01:54:23,040 --> 01:54:25,200
Speaker 4: That is what makes being a fan of a football

2117
01:54:25,280 --> 01:54:29,120
Speaker 4: team fun. Hope can drive a man insane, as is

2118
01:54:29,479 --> 01:54:32,040
Speaker 4: famously said, but it's what makes being a football fan

2119
01:54:32,160 --> 01:54:35,680
Speaker 4: fund And I think a lot of people continue to

2120
01:54:36,000 --> 01:54:39,320
Speaker 4: have the question of if Joe Burrow is coming back,

2121
01:54:39,400 --> 01:54:41,600
Speaker 4: why why would he come back? Why would he do this?

2122
01:54:42,680 --> 01:54:47,400
Speaker 4: And the simple reason is he's a football player. He's

2123
01:54:47,480 --> 01:54:51,400
Speaker 4: paid to play football. He's not going to just give up,

2124
01:54:52,280 --> 01:54:56,600
Speaker 4: not just gonna not play. Now. If this was week seventeen,

2125
01:54:56,680 --> 01:55:00,480
Speaker 4: Week eighteen, the Bengals have nothing to play for. If

2126
01:55:00,560 --> 01:55:05,440
Speaker 4: that was the case, then it's maybe entirely different mindset

2127
01:55:05,920 --> 01:55:09,240
Speaker 4: that the risk is not worth the reward. Well, the

2128
01:55:09,280 --> 01:55:12,320
Speaker 4: Bengals look at their schedule and they think, all right,

2129
01:55:12,640 --> 01:55:15,640
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh and then if he can come back by Thanksgiving,

2130
01:55:17,160 --> 01:55:21,640
Speaker 4: and it's Thanksgiving and Baltimore and Buffalo and Baltimore, and

2131
01:55:21,720 --> 01:55:25,560
Speaker 4: you get two cracks at Baltimore, and you got Cleveland

2132
01:55:25,600 --> 01:55:27,800
Speaker 4: on the schedule, still in Arizona, who's a mess? In

2133
01:55:27,960 --> 01:55:34,080
Speaker 4: Miami their performance yesterday, notwithstanding they're on the schedule, and

2134
01:55:34,240 --> 01:55:38,000
Speaker 4: so they probably look at it and say, Okay, if

2135
01:55:38,040 --> 01:55:39,840
Speaker 4: we can win those games, we have a shot.

2136
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Speaker 5: Now.

2137
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Speaker 4: Defensively, I just don't. It doesn't seem possible, doesn't seem plausible.

2138
01:55:47,360 --> 01:55:50,760
Speaker 4: But Joe Burrow shouldn't be forced to suffer because of

2139
01:55:51,240 --> 01:55:54,160
Speaker 4: how the other parts of the team have not performed.

2140
01:55:55,320 --> 01:55:58,120
Speaker 4: He's the franchise quarterback. He's the most important player in

2141
01:55:58,200 --> 01:56:04,880
Speaker 4: the franchise. So when he's healthy enough to play, he plays, period,

2142
01:56:04,920 --> 01:56:08,800
Speaker 4: point blank. And the only exception for that is games

2143
01:56:08,800 --> 01:56:11,800
Speaker 4: where you're getting blown out at the end or games

2144
01:56:11,840 --> 01:56:14,920
Speaker 4: that are completely meaningless to you at the end of

2145
01:56:14,960 --> 01:56:18,760
Speaker 4: the season. And if he's dealing with an injury, that's it.

2146
01:56:21,560 --> 01:56:23,480
Speaker 4: We'll take a break, we'll come back. This is Tony

2147
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Speaker 4: Pike's Monday Midday Quarterback ESPN fifteen.

2148
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Speaker 2: Thirty DAMN thirty.

2149
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Speaker 4: Since he three sixty Tony Pikes Monday Midday Quarterback, that's

2150
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Speaker 4: the name of this show here on ESPN fifteen thirty.

2151
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Speaker 2: My name is Austin Elmore.

2152
01:56:49,120 --> 01:56:52,640
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow set to meet with the media in about

2153
01:56:52,760 --> 01:56:58,120
Speaker 4: five minutes from right now. We'll see what Joe has

2154
01:56:58,240 --> 01:57:00,320
Speaker 4: to say. Obviously, the news of the day that the

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Speaker 4: Bengals have opened up his twenty one day window to.

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Speaker 2: Begin practicing.

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01:57:06,360 --> 01:57:11,160
Speaker 4: He told Jay Glazer that he gave him the timeline

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Speaker 4: of by Thanksgiving and all. The video from practice today

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01:57:15,560 --> 01:57:18,160
Speaker 4: looked like a pretty normal Joe Burrow. He was wearing cleats,

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01:57:18,200 --> 01:57:21,720
Speaker 4: had his helmet on. It was basically a walk through practice,

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Speaker 4: it looked like. But Zach Taylor said he would get

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Speaker 4: some of the reps with the first team guys alongside

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01:57:26,600 --> 01:57:30,000
Speaker 4: Jake Browning. Joe Flacco was not throwing today. If you

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01:57:30,080 --> 01:57:32,680
Speaker 4: remember Flacco dealing with that shoulder injury from a couple

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Speaker 4: of weeks ago, so I'm sure that plays a role

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Speaker 4: in all of this as well. Earlier today, Zach Taylor

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Speaker 4: also said that Trey Henderson would be doubtful to play

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Speaker 4: this weekend against Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh coming off of a blowout

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Speaker 4: loss in Los Angeles last night on Sunday Night Football,

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Speaker 4: so looks like the Bengals. I don't know if the

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01:57:53,040 --> 01:57:55,840
Speaker 4: line has changed. I don't know that it should because

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01:57:55,920 --> 01:57:59,480
Speaker 4: Burrow isn't playing, but five and a half point underdogs

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Speaker 4: coming up at Pittsburgh this week.

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Speaker 2: We'll take a break. We'll come back. When we do.

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Speaker 4: We expect to hear from the Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 4: This is the Monday midday quarterback on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: Hey, it's my lego.

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Speaker 4: This is Tony Pike's Monday midday quarterback here on ESPN

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Speaker 4: fifteen thirty. Anxiously awaiting Joe Burrow coming to the podium

2180
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Speaker 4: to talk for the first time since the Wednesday before

2181
01:58:32,160 --> 01:58:38,200
Speaker 4: the Jacksonville game, which would have been September ninth, tenth,

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01:58:38,600 --> 01:58:43,120
Speaker 4: something along those lines. The last time we heard from Joe. Bengals,

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01:58:43,120 --> 01:58:46,840
Speaker 4: of course, came back and won that day against Jacksonville.

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Speaker 4: Joe has not spoken to the media since, which is

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Speaker 4: not a typical of someone with an injury who was

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Speaker 4: placed on IR and he is scheduled to speak any minute.

2187
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Speaker 4: Originally was scheduled for two forty. Other stuff going on tonight.

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01:59:03,360 --> 01:59:06,120
Speaker 4: Xavier is back in action. They are at home against

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Speaker 4: Santa Clara. First tip off in that game, I almost

2190
01:59:09,320 --> 01:59:12,320
Speaker 4: said first pitch tip off in That game is slated

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Speaker 4: for eight thirty Monday Night Football as well tonight as

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Speaker 4: the Eagles and the Packers in green Bay at lambeau Field.

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Speaker 4: Last I checked green Bay favored by a point and

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Speaker 4: a half over Philadelphia, which I was a little bit

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01:59:28,560 --> 01:59:31,600
Speaker 4: surprised by that. But the Philadelphia defense has been or

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01:59:31,600 --> 01:59:34,560
Speaker 4: excuse me, the green Bay defense has been wonderful. The

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01:59:34,640 --> 01:59:38,880
Speaker 4: Philly offense not great. Other stuff you've may have missed.

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Speaker 4: Emmanuel Classe and Luis or Tees, both pitchers for the

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Speaker 4: Cleveland Guardians. They've been indicted in their role in a

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01:59:46,840 --> 01:59:51,040
Speaker 4: gambling scheme that had an impact on I don't know

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Speaker 4: that really had an impact on games all that much,

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01:59:53,680 --> 01:59:56,480
Speaker 4: but it was prop bets that he would those guys

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01:59:56,520 --> 01:59:59,720
Speaker 4: would throw balls or strikes or off speed pitches or

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Speaker 4: whatever and get like seven or ten thousand dollars seven

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Speaker 4: to twelve thousand dollars for each pitch. You know, the

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Speaker 4: thing that everybody looks for someone to blame with the

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Speaker 4: whole gambling thing and the multiple issues when it comes

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Speaker 4: to sports gambling. I do think that the sports books

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Speaker 4: themselves have a role to play in this, just because

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Speaker 4: of the sheer amount of prop bets that are now

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Speaker 4: out there now. I don't know what gambling was like

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Speaker 4: twenty five, thirty, forty years ago, but I don't feel

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Speaker 4: like there was a ton of prop bets like they

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02:00:32,320 --> 02:00:37,960
Speaker 4: are now. So many prop bets are used to convince

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Speaker 4: people to play, to convince people to join, and these

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Speaker 4: bonus bets and blah blah blah blah blah and all

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02:00:44,400 --> 02:00:47,040
Speaker 4: that stuff, and so people think they can just when

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Speaker 4: you have fifty or sixty prop bets that you can

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Speaker 4: place on a particular game, instead of the spread who's

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Speaker 4: gonna win, who might score a touchdown, you know that

2221
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Speaker 4: sort of stuff. Instead, guy think that they can sneak

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Speaker 4: it through the goalposts. Here Now, to the credit of

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Speaker 4: the books and the leagues and all that, they have

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Speaker 4: found a way to and track it easily to where

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Speaker 4: anytime something like that happens, it's not hard to figure

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Speaker 4: it out and kind of track it down. So that

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Speaker 4: I think is a good thing in and of itself,

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Speaker 4: But it just feels like there's a lot of blame

2229
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Speaker 4: to go around when it comes to these sorts of scandals.

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Speaker 4: There won't be I mean, this won't be the last.

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Speaker 4: There will be plenty more I'm sure just because of

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Speaker 4: its prevalence, because of the people that you have in

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Speaker 4: your ear if you're a professional athlete. But hopefully guys

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Speaker 4: like Classe and Ortiz and even Chauncey Billups and Terry Roseier,

2235
02:01:55,280 --> 02:01:58,440
Speaker 4: much like Pete rose was for a long time, hopefully

2236
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Speaker 4: they are able to make an example out of these people,

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Speaker 4: which then lead to fewer and fewer people thinking they

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Speaker 4: can get away with it. But a lot of these guys,

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Speaker 4: it's like finding a way to send their boys or

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Speaker 4: their homies or their friends or their family some money

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Speaker 4: by doing it that they can all get a few

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Speaker 4: bucks off of.

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Speaker 2: So it's the unfortunate reality, but it is. It is

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Speaker 2: the case.

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Speaker 4: This is Tony Pike's Monday midday quarterback. I'm Austin Omore.

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02:02:28,960 --> 02:02:32,800
Speaker 4: We're waiting for Joe Burrow, supposed to be taking the

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Speaker 4: podium at any moment for his first press conference after

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Speaker 4: his injury. By the way, Shamar Stuart was not at

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Speaker 4: practice today either. He did get banged up right at

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Speaker 4: the end of the Bears game. I want to say

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Speaker 4: it was a knee injury. I'm not entirely sure. I

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02:02:54,400 --> 02:02:56,880
Speaker 4: believe it was a knee but Shamar Stuart was not

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Speaker 4: at practice yesterday or excuse me today for the Bengals,

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02:03:05,640 --> 02:03:10,480
Speaker 4: and with Trey Hendrickson already listed as doubtful, that would

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Speaker 4: be that would be a tough, tough hill to climb

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Speaker 4: if you're the Bengals to go into Pittsburgh without those

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Speaker 4: two pass rushers and expect to have any sort of

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Speaker 4: success on defense. I mean, defense in and of itself

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02:03:25,040 --> 02:03:28,280
Speaker 4: has already been a major issue. Rushing the passer has always,

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Speaker 4: has already been a major issue. It's not like the

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Speaker 4: Steelers have done a great job protecting Aaron Rodgers, but

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Speaker 4: those two guys and the lack of production of the

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Speaker 4: players that play behind them, like Joseph Osaih and Miles

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Speaker 4: Murphy and others, would certainly make it even more difficult

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Speaker 4: for the Bengals to perform against the Pittsburgh Steelers on

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Speaker 4: Sunday in Pittsburgh. By the way, weather forecast for that

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Speaker 4: game not great. I do think the snow and all

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02:03:58,960 --> 02:04:01,760
Speaker 4: that's supposed to clear up this week. But last I

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Speaker 4: saw I checked it earlier this morning, the forecast for

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Speaker 4: Pittsburgh on Sunday is supposed to be I believe, fifty

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Speaker 4: nine degrees and wet and rainy not going to be

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Speaker 4: a fun game. And that is a stadium in which

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Speaker 4: there have been a ton of issues with their turf

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Speaker 4: already this year. They obviously share that with the Pittsburgh Panthers.

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Speaker 4: I know parts of it have been replaced already, but

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Speaker 4: gonna be interesting to see whether or not the weather

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Speaker 4: and the playing surface impact the game on Sunday against

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Speaker 4: the Pittsburgh Steelers. For the Bengals, what else is going on?

2279
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Speaker 4: Brian Daball was fired by the New York Giants earlier today,

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Speaker 4: their head coach no longer and in the release, the

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02:04:50,160 --> 02:04:54,400
Speaker 4: Giants announced that offensive coordinator Mike Kafka will be the

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Speaker 4: new interim head coach, and they mentioned that Joe Shane,

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Speaker 4: who's the defensive or excuse me, the general manager of

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Speaker 4: the New York Giants. They announced that he will lead

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Speaker 4: the search for a new head coach. So a lot

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Speaker 4: of people kind of thought that Shane and Dable were

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Speaker 4: a bit of a package deal, but it appears they

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Speaker 4: are not, as Joe Shane will remain the Giants GM,

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Speaker 4: at least for now, as they try to figure out

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Speaker 4: who their next head coach was. The Giants owner John

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02:05:25,240 --> 02:05:27,720
Speaker 4: Marras said, we feel Joe has assembled a good young

2292
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Speaker 4: nucleus of talent and we look forward to its development

2293
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Speaker 4: as far as Joe Shane is returned. Also some scary news,

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Speaker 4: but positive news. Alex Singleton, who's a linebacker for the

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Speaker 4: Green for the Denver Broncos, found out after a random

2296
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Speaker 4: drug test that he had a cancerous spot on his body.

2297
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Speaker 4: Due to the NFL's random drug testing program, he received

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Speaker 4: notice about this. He was able to get that removed

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Speaker 4: after they played the Denver Broncos. Looks like it's going

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Speaker 4: to be a good thing that they found it as

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Speaker 4: quickly as they did, and because that random drug test

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Speaker 4: revealed it, Alex Singleton is going to be okay. Not

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Speaker 4: sure exactly what he what the timeline might be for him,

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02:06:20,560 --> 02:06:25,680
Speaker 4: but Alex Singleton, that's the news there. What else anything

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Speaker 4: else going on? The Reds announced that Reds Fest is

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Speaker 4: coming back. Yes, Reds Fest is coming back to the

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Speaker 4: new and improved Convention Center. I don't know if it's

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Speaker 4: still the Duke Energy Convention Center, but it's the new

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Speaker 4: Cincinnati Convention Center. And that's going to be January sixteenth

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Speaker 4: and seventeenth. That's a Friday and a Saturday. All right,

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Speaker 4: let's go to the podium now and hear from Bengals

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Speaker 4: quarterback Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 9: You talk to a lot of different people. You talk

2314
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Speaker 9: to people have been through it. You have an understanding

2315
02:06:57,800 --> 02:07:01,800
Speaker 9: of what the injury is and what the repair is,

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02:07:01,960 --> 02:07:06,400
Speaker 9: and then you just talk about it critically with the

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Speaker 9: doctor and the physical therapist and everybody involved, and you

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02:07:12,040 --> 02:07:13,440
Speaker 9: just kind of take it day by day, see how

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Speaker 9: it goes, see how it feels. What happened on the

2320
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Speaker 9: injury just got stuck on the turf, typical typical turf

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Speaker 9: toe Scott bent back too far?

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Speaker 2: Can you go back to that.

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Speaker 18: Day for you when you found out early on that

2324
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Speaker 18: it was a pretty significant injury. How did you process

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Speaker 18: all of that and what were those next couple of

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Speaker 18: days like for you knowing just how hard you had

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Speaker 18: work to finally have a full healthy training camp, And

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Speaker 18: can you just tell us a little bit about what

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Speaker 18: was going on in your mind?

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Speaker 11: Then?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I knew it wasn't great when it happened. I

2332
02:07:48,640 --> 02:07:53,640
Speaker 9: typically typically typically have a good feel for those when

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Speaker 9: it when it's going to be fine, and when it's not. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: obviously it was incredibly sad, disappointed, frustrated, angry, you know,

2335
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Speaker 9: all the all the above, and you'll by yourself feel

2336
02:08:07,760 --> 02:08:10,680
Speaker 9: sorry for yourself for a little bit. It's easy when

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Speaker 9: you know a couple days leading up to surgery and

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Speaker 9: the a couple of weeks after when you can't really

2339
02:08:17,840 --> 02:08:19,840
Speaker 9: do much, and then it's having to get back at it.

2340
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Speaker 36: You determined to play this year and do wins and

2341
02:08:23,280 --> 02:08:25,800
Speaker 36: losses leading up to when you could play.

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Speaker 9: Now, we'll see how these next couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 9: You know, there's a lot that goes into it. Like

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02:08:32,560 --> 02:08:34,080
Speaker 9: you said, there's a lot of variables that you have

2345
02:08:34,160 --> 02:08:37,680
Speaker 9: to consider, and we're just gonna see how these next

2346
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Speaker 9: couple of weeks ago, see how it feels.

2347
02:08:38,880 --> 02:08:40,920
Speaker 37: How tough for that be to be potentially fully healthy

2348
02:08:40,960 --> 02:08:43,480
Speaker 37: but still not you hold yourself back from not playing,

2349
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Speaker 37: given all the work you've taken to get ready to

2350
02:08:45,680 --> 02:08:45,960
Speaker 37: this point.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, we'll see how the next couple of weeks go,

2352
02:08:48,680 --> 02:08:51,720
Speaker 9: see how it feels, and we'll make make a decision.

2353
02:08:53,760 --> 02:08:57,080
Speaker 9: You know, there's, like I said, a lot of variables

2354
02:08:57,120 --> 02:08:59,360
Speaker 9: that are going to go into this, and the number

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02:08:59,400 --> 02:09:01,640
Speaker 9: one is is how it's feeling in my health. So

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Speaker 9: we'll just take it day by day. Like we have

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Speaker 9: been throughout the rehab processed.

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Speaker 32: Obviously a lot of diversity. Joe, since you left, how

2359
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Speaker 32: have you dealt with watching it?

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Speaker 20: How have you dealt with supporting your teammates through all

2361
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Speaker 20: of the adversity the.

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Speaker 9: Team has happened. Yeah, you try to do what you can,

2363
02:09:18,320 --> 02:09:20,680
Speaker 9: but it's difficult when you're not out there and you're

2364
02:09:20,720 --> 02:09:25,520
Speaker 9: not around like like you normally are. That's it's a

2365
02:09:25,600 --> 02:09:27,520
Speaker 9: weird spot to be in. You try to do what

2366
02:09:27,600 --> 02:09:34,680
Speaker 9: you can and also just grind by yourself in the

2367
02:09:34,720 --> 02:09:36,840
Speaker 9: weight room and in the training room when trying to

2368
02:09:36,840 --> 02:09:37,200
Speaker 9: get right.

2369
02:09:37,320 --> 02:09:37,680
Speaker 7: There's not.

2370
02:09:40,040 --> 02:09:41,760
Speaker 9: Not much more you can do. You're not out there

2371
02:09:41,800 --> 02:09:45,920
Speaker 9: with the guys, you're not out of practice, so return

2372
02:09:45,960 --> 02:09:46,920
Speaker 9: from injuries pretty lonely.

2373
02:09:48,120 --> 02:09:49,560
Speaker 2: Watching Joe Flato.

2374
02:09:49,840 --> 02:09:51,600
Speaker 24: Come in the way he's played it are things that

2375
02:09:51,680 --> 02:09:53,200
Speaker 24: you've seen in the way that he's played and you

2376
02:09:53,240 --> 02:09:55,400
Speaker 24: feel like you can apply to you try to learn

2377
02:09:55,440 --> 02:09:56,840
Speaker 24: from and apply the way you might.

2378
02:09:57,360 --> 02:09:59,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think he obviously he's a He's done a

2379
02:09:59,400 --> 02:09:59,840
Speaker 9: great job.

2380
02:10:01,760 --> 02:10:01,880
Speaker 31: You know.

2381
02:10:01,920 --> 02:10:04,080
Speaker 9: I've had a lot of respect for him for a

2382
02:10:04,200 --> 02:10:06,520
Speaker 9: long time. He's been on a lot of different teams

2383
02:10:06,600 --> 02:10:09,320
Speaker 9: for the last several years, and he always goes in

2384
02:10:09,640 --> 02:10:12,600
Speaker 9: and plays well and puts the ball where it's supposed

2385
02:10:12,600 --> 02:10:16,000
Speaker 9: to be and is accurate and does a lot of

2386
02:10:16,040 --> 02:10:18,240
Speaker 9: things really well. So it's been fun to watch.

2387
02:10:19,600 --> 02:10:22,080
Speaker 38: As you mentioned, beyond how it feels, is the win

2388
02:10:22,200 --> 02:10:24,000
Speaker 38: loss record chief among them.

2389
02:10:24,800 --> 02:10:26,360
Speaker 9: We'll see, we'll see how these guys a couple of

2390
02:10:26,360 --> 02:10:28,600
Speaker 9: weeks ago. We'll see how it feels. Will uh, will

2391
02:10:28,600 --> 02:10:29,840
Speaker 9: make a decision when the time comes.

2392
02:10:30,000 --> 02:10:31,080
Speaker 35: Are you running yet?

2393
02:10:31,200 --> 02:10:32,800
Speaker 32: Any lower body lifting?

2394
02:10:33,000 --> 02:10:35,120
Speaker 2: What's been the latest step here?

2395
02:10:35,200 --> 02:10:38,520
Speaker 9: As Yeah, we've been We've been lifting for for for

2396
02:10:38,640 --> 02:10:43,320
Speaker 9: a while at this point, and running for a couple

2397
02:10:43,320 --> 02:10:46,800
Speaker 9: of weeks now. So we felt good about my return

2398
02:10:46,920 --> 02:10:49,960
Speaker 9: to getting back on the field and testing it out.

2399
02:10:50,080 --> 02:10:51,960
Speaker 37: When would you want to play? I mean, if things,

2400
02:10:52,120 --> 02:10:53,960
Speaker 37: let's say the team does do well, is there a

2401
02:10:54,000 --> 02:10:55,440
Speaker 37: timeline up? What do you feel like as soon as

2402
02:10:55,480 --> 02:10:56,240
Speaker 37: you would be available?

2403
02:10:56,400 --> 02:10:59,000
Speaker 9: We have twenty one days to to figure that out.

2404
02:11:01,400 --> 02:11:03,960
Speaker 9: Could be early, could be late in that window. Uh,

2405
02:11:04,120 --> 02:11:07,120
Speaker 9: there's you know, we're still we're still pretty early post

2406
02:11:07,160 --> 02:11:11,000
Speaker 9: surgery for this injury. So we have a couple of

2407
02:11:11,040 --> 02:11:13,160
Speaker 9: weeks of practice to figure that out and see where

2408
02:11:13,160 --> 02:11:13,400
Speaker 9: it goes.

2409
02:11:13,640 --> 02:11:16,440
Speaker 32: How has this injury been different? If it has from

2410
02:11:16,600 --> 02:11:19,680
Speaker 32: your knee riffs to tow it's.

2411
02:11:19,480 --> 02:11:22,400
Speaker 9: Another another ligament injury, so you know, I know how

2412
02:11:22,440 --> 02:11:29,600
Speaker 9: to deal with those. It's not a ton of on

2413
02:11:29,720 --> 02:11:34,280
Speaker 9: a scale of difficulty level coming back. This one wasn't

2414
02:11:34,600 --> 02:11:37,560
Speaker 9: wasn't really up there. Back to moving pretty quickly, and

2415
02:11:38,160 --> 02:11:40,680
Speaker 9: I was not able to get back into my strength

2416
02:11:40,760 --> 02:11:44,480
Speaker 9: and conditioning routine pretty quick. So my body's in good spot.

2417
02:11:46,360 --> 02:11:50,800
Speaker 18: Talked about that you risk like football mortality, and how

2418
02:11:50,840 --> 02:11:53,480
Speaker 18: that kind of opened your eyes to you know, your

2419
02:11:53,560 --> 02:11:57,720
Speaker 18: career and how short it can be or just really

2420
02:11:57,920 --> 02:12:01,160
Speaker 18: just all of those things piling up. How do you

2421
02:12:01,240 --> 02:12:03,400
Speaker 18: feel right now about that? And I mean you sat

2422
02:12:03,520 --> 02:12:05,680
Speaker 18: similar at a podium a couple of years ago and said,

2423
02:12:05,720 --> 02:12:07,400
Speaker 18: you know, super Bowl window is going to be your

2424
02:12:07,400 --> 02:12:11,720
Speaker 18: whole career. Another how how's your mentality change with all that?

2425
02:12:11,880 --> 02:12:13,200
Speaker 2: And where are you at right now?

2426
02:12:14,680 --> 02:12:16,560
Speaker 9: Yeah, you think about all the things, all those things

2427
02:12:16,680 --> 02:12:21,000
Speaker 9: for for a couple of weeks when you know you're

2428
02:12:21,240 --> 02:12:23,040
Speaker 9: trying to trying to get the swelling down and you're

2429
02:12:23,080 --> 02:12:24,080
Speaker 9: not really moving around much.

2430
02:12:24,120 --> 02:12:24,560
Speaker 2: But I didn't.

2431
02:12:24,560 --> 02:12:26,480
Speaker 9: I haven't really had a ton of time to think

2432
02:12:26,520 --> 02:12:29,800
Speaker 9: about that too much. I haven't really been in this

2433
02:12:29,960 --> 02:12:32,720
Speaker 9: spot where I've been injured, had surgery, and still a

2434
02:12:32,840 --> 02:12:36,760
Speaker 9: chance to play in the year. So I've been juggling

2435
02:12:36,880 --> 02:12:41,280
Speaker 9: the injury mindset where you know, you kind of take

2436
02:12:41,280 --> 02:12:45,320
Speaker 9: a deep breath and then get back to it, and

2437
02:12:45,480 --> 02:12:49,680
Speaker 9: then juggling that with the idea that I could potentially

2438
02:12:49,720 --> 02:12:51,720
Speaker 9: still play this year and you know, we could still

2439
02:12:51,760 --> 02:12:54,440
Speaker 9: be in it, and in all of those things.

2440
02:12:54,520 --> 02:12:55,040
Speaker 2: So it's.

2441
02:12:56,600 --> 02:12:59,000
Speaker 9: Been a lot going on in my mind with with

2442
02:12:59,160 --> 02:13:03,040
Speaker 9: those things, and it's a difficult thing to juggle. But

2443
02:13:04,480 --> 02:13:06,440
Speaker 9: now that we're getting closer and closer than it now

2444
02:13:06,480 --> 02:13:08,080
Speaker 9: it's just more season mindset.

2445
02:13:08,320 --> 02:13:10,080
Speaker 2: Well, it's been the hardest part of juggling that.

2446
02:13:15,320 --> 02:13:17,120
Speaker 9: You just think about a lot of different things. I

2447
02:13:17,200 --> 02:13:18,960
Speaker 9: think a lot about a lot of a lot of

2448
02:13:19,000 --> 02:13:21,600
Speaker 9: different things. A lot of different things pop into your head,

2449
02:13:24,000 --> 02:13:30,080
Speaker 9: wide range of topics, good, bad, interesting and not interesting,

2450
02:13:30,120 --> 02:13:30,920
Speaker 9: a lot of different things.

2451
02:13:31,520 --> 02:13:33,360
Speaker 37: It is just probably the most frustrating injury you've had,

2452
02:13:33,400 --> 02:13:35,520
Speaker 37: given that you had you know full you have this

2453
02:13:35,600 --> 02:13:38,000
Speaker 37: season last year, had an off season you did, had

2454
02:13:38,040 --> 02:13:39,960
Speaker 37: okay up and then for it to happen d here,

2455
02:13:39,960 --> 02:13:41,600
Speaker 37: it's so early, is that kind of it?

2456
02:13:41,720 --> 02:13:43,240
Speaker 32: Where does this rank among the ones that you've had

2457
02:13:43,320 --> 02:13:43,840
Speaker 32: in your career.

2458
02:13:44,000 --> 02:13:49,480
Speaker 9: Yeah, it was frustrating. They're all frustrating, and I was

2459
02:13:49,520 --> 02:13:52,760
Speaker 9: really happy with where I was at and so that

2460
02:13:53,000 --> 02:13:56,840
Speaker 9: that part was obviously incredibly disappointing. The amount of work

2461
02:13:56,840 --> 02:14:00,760
Speaker 9: you put into it and for that to to happen

2462
02:14:01,400 --> 02:14:04,640
Speaker 9: in that spot, it's, Uh, it's tough, but that's life

2463
02:14:04,680 --> 02:14:05,200
Speaker 9: in this business.

2464
02:14:05,400 --> 02:14:08,440
Speaker 32: What do you make as a team? Teams? You know,

2465
02:14:08,600 --> 02:14:09,160
Speaker 32: three and six.

2466
02:14:09,840 --> 02:14:12,200
Speaker 37: The defense is struggling, much like it has the last

2467
02:14:12,240 --> 02:14:14,000
Speaker 37: few seasons seasons. What are your thoughts on kind of

2468
02:14:14,040 --> 02:14:15,880
Speaker 37: how the season has looked for you all as a

2469
02:14:15,960 --> 02:14:16,560
Speaker 37: team overall.

2470
02:14:17,120 --> 02:14:20,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think earlier in the year, the offense wasn't rolling,

2471
02:14:20,920 --> 02:14:23,120
Speaker 9: and I thought the defense was playing pretty pretty well,

2472
02:14:24,360 --> 02:14:27,160
Speaker 9: and then lately it seems like that is flip flopped.

2473
02:14:29,760 --> 02:14:32,560
Speaker 9: But they're still guys doing good things, these good stuff

2474
02:14:32,760 --> 02:14:36,480
Speaker 9: put on tape. Ah, it just feels like we we

2475
02:14:37,760 --> 02:14:44,280
Speaker 9: we haven't really put it all together. When when you

2476
02:14:46,440 --> 02:14:51,880
Speaker 9: when you struggle that way, it's uh, there's always guys

2477
02:14:51,960 --> 02:14:54,680
Speaker 9: doing good things, but the good things don't coincide with

2478
02:14:54,760 --> 02:14:59,920
Speaker 9: other people doing good things. So on offense, maybe you're

2479
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:02,640
Speaker 9: receivers are winning, but your online didn't hold up, or

2480
02:15:03,360 --> 02:15:04,880
Speaker 9: maybe your on line held up this time, or your

2481
02:15:04,920 --> 02:15:07,600
Speaker 9: receivers didn't win. On defense, it's you know, you guys

2482
02:15:07,680 --> 02:15:10,600
Speaker 9: covered well, but you didn't get any pressure, or you

2483
02:15:10,720 --> 02:15:13,880
Speaker 9: got pressure but the guys got open quickly. And so

2484
02:15:14,120 --> 02:15:18,280
Speaker 9: when you're struggling on offense or defense, you know, the

2485
02:15:18,400 --> 02:15:19,880
Speaker 9: NFL has a lot of good players. There's gonna be

2486
02:15:19,920 --> 02:15:21,880
Speaker 9: guys putting good stuff on tape. You know, it just

2487
02:15:21,920 --> 02:15:24,560
Speaker 9: feels like we haven't really put it all together.

2488
02:15:24,720 --> 02:15:26,080
Speaker 32: I think you've put the number at ten in the

2489
02:15:26,120 --> 02:15:28,720
Speaker 32: past of what you need to get in that's hand.

2490
02:15:28,760 --> 02:15:29,440
Speaker 32: Four games left.

2491
02:15:29,560 --> 02:15:32,120
Speaker 37: Do you feel realistic that if this team gets confined

2492
02:15:32,160 --> 02:15:34,360
Speaker 37: all together and click in your mind, can this still

2493
02:15:34,360 --> 02:15:35,080
Speaker 37: be a playoff team?

2494
02:15:36,440 --> 02:15:39,080
Speaker 9: Yeah? You know, our division is wide open. There's a

2495
02:15:39,160 --> 02:15:43,720
Speaker 9: lot of I think Pittsburgh's five and four at this point.

2496
02:15:43,800 --> 02:15:46,840
Speaker 9: We play them this week, so you know, everything is

2497
02:15:46,880 --> 02:15:50,200
Speaker 9: still there in front of us. It's very rare that

2498
02:15:50,280 --> 02:15:52,920
Speaker 9: our division looks like this, but it does this year,

2499
02:15:52,960 --> 02:15:55,920
Speaker 9: and so you know, I think we'll be at least

2500
02:15:55,920 --> 02:15:56,640
Speaker 9: in it until the end.

2501
02:15:56,760 --> 02:15:59,600
Speaker 32: It's fair to say with the wild cards that the

2502
02:15:59,680 --> 02:16:00,640
Speaker 32: best path.

2503
02:16:00,560 --> 02:16:02,520
Speaker 2: Four would be winning the North.

2504
02:16:02,360 --> 02:16:04,200
Speaker 9: And I think it would be very difficult for us

2505
02:16:04,240 --> 02:16:06,720
Speaker 9: to be a wild card team at this point. Obviously

2506
02:16:06,760 --> 02:16:10,640
Speaker 9: a lot a lot of football to be played, but

2507
02:16:12,160 --> 02:16:13,680
Speaker 9: you know, I think that's difficult. I think our best

2508
02:16:13,680 --> 02:16:15,280
Speaker 9: path would be win the division.

2509
02:16:15,480 --> 02:16:17,760
Speaker 14: It can be easy, Joe, for a locker room to

2510
02:16:17,840 --> 02:16:20,680
Speaker 14: start to fracture when things aren't going as you planned

2511
02:16:20,760 --> 02:16:22,920
Speaker 14: at the beginning of the year. Are you, even when

2512
02:16:22,960 --> 02:16:25,440
Speaker 14: you're not playing, able to be kind of a glue

2513
02:16:25,840 --> 02:16:28,200
Speaker 14: in your leadership role or is that something you have

2514
02:16:28,320 --> 02:16:29,760
Speaker 14: to lead to guys who are playing.

2515
02:16:30,160 --> 02:16:31,480
Speaker 9: No, you can still pick your spots.

2516
02:16:31,800 --> 02:16:31,920
Speaker 6: You know.

2517
02:16:31,960 --> 02:16:33,320
Speaker 9: I'm not around as much, so I don't get as

2518
02:16:33,360 --> 02:16:39,119
Speaker 9: many opportunities. But you know, there's obviously guys here, Guys

2519
02:16:39,160 --> 02:16:41,600
Speaker 9: there spots here, spots there that you feel like you

2520
02:16:41,680 --> 02:16:45,119
Speaker 9: can say something like that's not It's never really been

2521
02:16:45,240 --> 02:16:49,280
Speaker 9: my huge part of my personality and leadership style, but

2522
02:16:50,680 --> 02:16:52,560
Speaker 9: it's there, and I do pick my spots for that.

2523
02:16:52,879 --> 02:16:55,120
Speaker 36: Do you have a special shoe or anything in the

2524
02:16:55,200 --> 02:16:56,320
Speaker 36: shoot to protect your tail?

2525
02:16:57,080 --> 02:17:05,720
Speaker 9: Yes, it's an ongoing process. We're figuring out what works

2526
02:17:05,800 --> 02:17:08,800
Speaker 9: for me. You'll have to have a lot of hardware

2527
02:17:08,840 --> 02:17:12,720
Speaker 9: in there too to protect it. So there's been a

2528
02:17:12,800 --> 02:17:13,920
Speaker 9: lot that has gone into that.

2529
02:17:14,040 --> 02:17:15,480
Speaker 32: Yeah, when you came back off the calf.

2530
02:17:15,560 --> 02:17:17,480
Speaker 37: I think you in hindsight, I think in the off

2531
02:17:17,520 --> 02:17:19,520
Speaker 37: season you said probably came back a little too early

2532
02:17:20,000 --> 02:17:21,680
Speaker 37: from that. How do you how do you go back

2533
02:17:21,720 --> 02:17:24,200
Speaker 37: and having been through that experience, how did you put

2534
02:17:24,240 --> 02:17:26,360
Speaker 37: that into context for for the toe and maybe what.

2535
02:17:26,680 --> 02:17:27,280
Speaker 2: What that might look like.

2536
02:17:27,680 --> 02:17:31,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think muscle injuries are different from ligament injuries.

2537
02:17:33,000 --> 02:17:36,640
Speaker 9: And you know I've been through, been through all of them,

2538
02:17:36,959 --> 02:17:41,160
Speaker 9: know how to handle them. I feel really good about

2539
02:17:41,200 --> 02:17:44,160
Speaker 9: the repair. We feel good about how it's, how it's

2540
02:17:44,200 --> 02:17:48,240
Speaker 9: been healing. It's strong. My I'm strong, and so we

2541
02:17:48,360 --> 02:17:51,600
Speaker 9: felt we felt good about getting back out to practice

2542
02:17:51,600 --> 02:17:55,040
Speaker 9: and starting to test it out a little bit, hopefully

2543
02:17:55,160 --> 02:17:57,480
Speaker 9: returned to play. So we'll see where it goes.

2544
02:17:57,560 --> 02:18:00,520
Speaker 37: There are some theories that crystals maybe involved in the

2545
02:18:00,520 --> 02:18:01,160
Speaker 37: healing process.

2546
02:18:02,600 --> 02:18:03,440
Speaker 32: Is it What do you think of that?

2547
02:18:03,440 --> 02:18:09,400
Speaker 9: Doesn' everybody have crystals? I got some crystals. Yeah, I

2548
02:18:09,440 --> 02:18:11,240
Speaker 9: mean I can't imagine it did, but I guess you

2549
02:18:11,360 --> 02:18:11,680
Speaker 9: never know.

2550
02:18:13,080 --> 02:18:15,680
Speaker 2: Twenty one decisions today would be four exacter me.

2551
02:18:15,840 --> 02:18:18,840
Speaker 38: How meaningful would it be to give in your history

2552
02:18:19,040 --> 02:18:21,360
Speaker 38: in Baltimore being a vision getting to come back for

2553
02:18:21,520 --> 02:18:21,880
Speaker 38: that game?

2554
02:18:22,440 --> 02:18:28,480
Speaker 9: Very is that your target? We'll see. We'll see how

2555
02:18:28,520 --> 02:18:29,400
Speaker 9: these next couple of weeks ago.

2556
02:18:30,200 --> 02:18:33,880
Speaker 38: Your footwork has been so important in the way of

2557
02:18:33,959 --> 02:18:34,840
Speaker 38: throwing mechanics.

2558
02:18:35,440 --> 02:18:37,959
Speaker 9: Once you know you're maybe a.

2559
02:18:38,000 --> 02:18:40,320
Speaker 32: Top concerns stars getting tacked to that.

2560
02:18:40,600 --> 02:18:44,360
Speaker 9: You know, it's a little feeder and wine with you. Yeah,

2561
02:18:44,400 --> 02:18:47,480
Speaker 9: I'm not I'm not too concerned about the actual mechanics

2562
02:18:47,520 --> 02:18:51,160
Speaker 9: of the throwing that feels good. The toe, the specifically

2563
02:18:51,240 --> 02:18:56,039
Speaker 9: the front toe isn't very involved in that, and it's

2564
02:18:56,120 --> 02:18:58,720
Speaker 9: just the planting and I'm strong enough and we feel

2565
02:18:58,720 --> 02:19:02,760
Speaker 9: good about doing that at this point. It's just the running, cutting,

2566
02:19:03,440 --> 02:19:06,760
Speaker 9: twitchy shortstops that we're gonna have to see over these

2567
02:19:06,800 --> 02:19:09,879
Speaker 9: next couple of weeks how it feels and where that goes.

2568
02:19:10,480 --> 02:19:14,640
Speaker 18: Have you felt any sense of frustration with the defense

2569
02:19:15,520 --> 02:19:17,480
Speaker 18: in that last year? You know, you had that great

2570
02:19:17,520 --> 02:19:20,000
Speaker 18: season tomorrow, that great season, it still wasn't enough in

2571
02:19:20,120 --> 02:19:23,199
Speaker 18: the off season supposed to be dedicated to fixing the defense.

2572
02:19:24,080 --> 02:19:26,520
Speaker 18: How do you do you have any frustration with a

2573
02:19:26,640 --> 02:19:30,160
Speaker 18: year later continuing to be the same issues that's holding

2574
02:19:30,200 --> 02:19:31,200
Speaker 18: you guys back as a team.

2575
02:19:31,560 --> 02:19:33,080
Speaker 9: Yeah. I think there's a lot of football left to

2576
02:19:33,120 --> 02:19:36,480
Speaker 9: be played, So there's a lot to you know, there's

2577
02:19:36,480 --> 02:19:39,880
Speaker 9: a lot of blame to go around here, but there's

2578
02:19:40,400 --> 02:19:44,440
Speaker 9: ample opportunity to turn that around. And like I said,

2579
02:19:44,480 --> 02:19:47,240
Speaker 9: I thought, you know, for half of this season, I

2580
02:19:47,280 --> 02:19:50,480
Speaker 9: think that I thought the defense was playing pretty good.

2581
02:19:52,160 --> 02:19:54,520
Speaker 9: And then you know, the last couple of weeks, I

2582
02:19:54,560 --> 02:19:57,240
Speaker 9: think we've struggled. But you know, there's there's good stuff

2583
02:19:57,280 --> 02:20:00,200
Speaker 9: on tape still, and they put that on tape. You

2584
02:20:00,240 --> 02:20:02,600
Speaker 9: saw it earlier in the year. So you just got

2585
02:20:02,720 --> 02:20:06,360
Speaker 9: to get back to playing compliment or defense and getting

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02:20:06,360 --> 02:20:10,920
Speaker 9: pressure and covering, and when guys in good spots, I

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02:20:11,000 --> 02:20:13,040
Speaker 9: think there's there's plenty of opportunity, and we have all

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02:20:13,040 --> 02:20:16,320
Speaker 9: the talent in that locker room to make those changes.

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Speaker 36: We learned on quarterback that you gabbled with the piano

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02:20:20,120 --> 02:20:23,199
Speaker 36: as you were coming back from Have you done anything

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02:20:23,280 --> 02:20:25,760
Speaker 36: outside the box to rehab a toe?

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Speaker 7: Nah?

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Speaker 11: Not really.

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02:20:28,360 --> 02:20:30,039
Speaker 9: A lot of piano being played in my free time

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02:20:30,120 --> 02:20:36,640
Speaker 9: these days, a lot more, a lot more free time

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02:20:36,760 --> 02:20:41,960
Speaker 9: than then anticipated. So what did you say if you

2597
02:20:42,040 --> 02:20:44,760
Speaker 9: hit the pedals with your toe? Yeah, yeah, I've been

2598
02:20:44,840 --> 02:20:51,200
Speaker 9: doing that. How hard was it? Away from talk to us,

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02:20:52,640 --> 02:20:53,480
Speaker 9: it was not hard at all.

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Speaker 32: Were there moments where you just didn't want to talk

2601
02:21:00,640 --> 02:21:01,600
Speaker 32: about acknowledge it.

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02:21:01,680 --> 02:21:03,879
Speaker 2: You just had to get away from everything for sure.

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02:21:04,080 --> 02:21:05,960
Speaker 9: For sure a couple of weeks on kind of kept

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02:21:06,000 --> 02:21:09,520
Speaker 9: my distance from everybody and you know, went through my

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02:21:09,600 --> 02:21:13,480
Speaker 9: own process and grieving and whatever you want to call it.

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02:21:13,600 --> 02:21:16,320
Speaker 9: But then you start to feel a little better, and

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02:21:16,520 --> 02:21:18,000
Speaker 9: you get back in the weight room and you start

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02:21:18,400 --> 02:21:20,760
Speaker 9: moving around a little bit, and then the toe starts

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02:21:20,800 --> 02:21:22,520
Speaker 9: to feel better, and so now you're back into the group.

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Speaker 37: Law has been really he's been productive, and it seems

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02:21:25,120 --> 02:21:26,160
Speaker 37: like he's been more goolf of this year.

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Speaker 32: What's it been like to watch? Got his development in

2613
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Speaker 32: that regard.

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Speaker 9: I mean, he's fun to watch. Nothing surprises me at

2615
02:21:36,400 --> 02:21:39,440
Speaker 9: this point. He's gonna get his no matter what's going on.

2616
02:21:40,120 --> 02:21:41,560
Speaker 9: You can put the ball in his hands and he's

2617
02:21:41,600 --> 02:21:44,680
Speaker 9: gonna make plays. You target him, he's gonna make plays.

2618
02:21:44,680 --> 02:21:47,560
Speaker 9: He's gonna catch the ball, he's gonna make people miss

2619
02:21:47,720 --> 02:21:51,640
Speaker 9: and be very productive. I think of all the things

2620
02:21:51,680 --> 02:21:55,240
Speaker 9: this year, that's the least surprising thing that I've seen.

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02:21:56,000 --> 02:21:58,279
Speaker 2: As one of the games. Great Pew had passes.

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02:21:58,320 --> 02:22:00,960
Speaker 9: What was your take on can do it against it?

2623
02:22:01,480 --> 02:22:03,720
Speaker 9: But there's yeah, he's playing, he's playing great he's putting

2624
02:22:03,720 --> 02:22:05,640
Speaker 9: the ball where it needs to go. He's been accurate

2625
02:22:05,720 --> 02:22:09,000
Speaker 9: with it getting the ball out. I think the online

2626
02:22:09,000 --> 02:22:11,560
Speaker 9: has been playing great. We've been running the ball really

2627
02:22:11,600 --> 02:22:13,880
Speaker 9: well over these last couple weeks. That's been exciting to see.

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02:22:14,440 --> 02:22:16,200
Speaker 9: And then obviously our guys in the outside are making

2629
02:22:16,240 --> 02:22:17,120
Speaker 9: plays like they always do.

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02:22:18,800 --> 02:22:21,520
Speaker 36: He spoke of your admiration for him throughout his career.

2631
02:22:21,600 --> 02:22:24,080
Speaker 36: But now that you're in the same room, what about

2632
02:22:24,240 --> 02:22:27,760
Speaker 36: the personality of the person what about that has interesting

2633
02:22:27,840 --> 02:22:28,320
Speaker 36: interested you?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, he's fun to be around. He's quiet sometimes. I

2635
02:22:33,400 --> 02:22:37,520
Speaker 9: think we have that in common, and he'll throw some

2636
02:22:37,640 --> 02:22:39,040
Speaker 9: off the wall stuff out there every once in a

2637
02:22:39,080 --> 02:22:42,080
Speaker 9: while that I like. That makes me laugh, and uh,

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02:22:43,000 --> 02:22:46,000
Speaker 9: he's fun to be around it. I'm happy that I've

2639
02:22:46,000 --> 02:22:48,160
Speaker 9: been able to have this experience and watching him do

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02:22:48,240 --> 02:22:49,560
Speaker 9: his thing and see how he operates.

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Speaker 4: That is Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow. This has been the

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Speaker 4: Tony Pike's Monday midday Quarterback Show. We'll take a rake,

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Speaker 4: will come back?

2644
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Speaker 2: I won't.

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Speaker 4: It'll be Tony and Mo for the bye week edition

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Speaker 4: The Tony and Mo Football Show. Thanks for listening. The

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Speaker 4: Boys are next right here on ESPN fifteen thirty