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Speaker 1: Hey, friends, welcome in after show podcast. It is on.

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Speaker 1: I am here Justin by myself today. I did not

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Speaker 1: want to bother anybody and bring them on, just a

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Speaker 1: quick check in to let you guys know what's going on.

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Speaker 1: I want to say thank you first and foremost for

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Speaker 1: listening to this after show podcast. I can't say that enough.

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Speaker 1: I enjoy doing it, even if it's by myself, even

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Speaker 1: if I'm just checking in and talking about things going

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Speaker 1: on in my life. I appreciate that. I love hearing

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Speaker 2: Hey, Justin, I was really moved by your podcast yesterday,

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Speaker 2: recalling your history of drug addiction and the painful places

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Speaker 2: it took you, living on the streets, going to jail,

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Speaker 2: your family's restraining order against you, eating Thanksgiving dinner in

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Speaker 2: the basement. This was also my son's history, but he

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Speaker 2: is not here today to tell his story. He died

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Speaker 2: of a drug over dose in two thousand and eight.

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Speaker 2: I loved him very much and miss him very much.

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Speaker 2: Why do some people make it out while others do not.

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Speaker 2: We'd love to hear your opinion and thank you for

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Speaker 2: all you do.

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Speaker 1: Well. I'm sorry for your losson and yeah, it's a

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Speaker 1: really That's a question that guests gets asked all the

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Speaker 1: time in the addiction recovery community, is why do some

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Speaker 1: people pass away and others don't. I can say that

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Speaker 1: it should have been me. It could have been me many, many,

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Speaker 1: many times. There were so many times that you know,

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Speaker 1: they're not waking up. And I have a cousin that

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Speaker 1: passed away. His name was Billy. This was a very

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Speaker 1: very tragic thing. He was a couple of years younger

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Speaker 1: I was working with him, he was going to meetings

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Speaker 1: Michael was talking to me and he said, oh, I

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Speaker 1: saw your new piece on WCVB. I'm so proud of you.

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Speaker 1: And you know, he's like I always think about it

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Speaker 1: sometimes like why did it have to happen to my brother?

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Speaker 1: people don't. And it was that was one of those situations.

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Speaker 1: You know, he was doing good. He was kind of

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Speaker 1: actually the so I got hired on the Maddie in

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Speaker 1: the Morning Show in January of twenty seventeen. This is

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Speaker 1: in March twenty seventeen, is when he passed. And I'll

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Speaker 1: never forget. I got the call that morning. I was

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Speaker 1: a great kid. My cousin love him so much, and

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Speaker 1: and I've lost so many friends. It's just so hard,

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Speaker 1: life is in, no matter how far at the bottom

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Speaker 1: it looks right now. Trust me, because every bottom has

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Speaker 1: you can change your life. That's always what I tell people.

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Speaker 1: So thank you for that talkback. I appreciate it. You

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Speaker 1: because that's a problem. So yeah, that's going on. Christmas

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