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Speaker 1: Good evening and welcome to the Nightcap on seven hundred

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Speaker 1: w LW Gary Jeff Walker on this Monday evening, March

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Speaker 1: the second Mark certainly came in like a roaring lion

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Speaker 1: for the Ayahtola and the regime in Iran. The war continues,

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Speaker 1: and we'll be talking about different aspects of what's going

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Speaker 1: up in just a few moments. The author of The

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Speaker 1: Red Tsunami, his name is Casey Fleming. He's been on

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Speaker 1: the show before, but tonight the implications of what is

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Speaker 1: affects communists China our number one threat in the world.

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Speaker 1: He says, the war that we're watching right now is

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Speaker 1: merely a distraction for the real war that the Chinese

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Speaker 1: have been fighting against us for a long time. Pastor

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Speaker 1: Mark builts we had a lunar eclipse last week. I

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Speaker 1: think there's another one this week, and the last time

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Speaker 1: we had the pastor on, we talked about how these

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Speaker 1: are signs that the Bible talks about that the ancient texts,

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Speaker 1: tell us about that predict war wow an eclipse, last

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Speaker 1: week war over the weekend. Pastor Mark builts in for

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Speaker 1: an update on what to expect next. Before we're done

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Speaker 1: this evening, Jared not the the author of tiny Blunders.

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Speaker 2: Big Mistakes? Are we making one of those?

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Speaker 1: And from the law enforcement side of things from invest USA,

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Speaker 1: Michael Letz will be here before the evening is through

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Speaker 1: to talk about Austin, Texas and what happened over the weekend,

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Speaker 1: how much more we might expect because of the attack

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Speaker 1: on Iran and what's going on right now in the

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Speaker 1: Middle East. It's a full show. I hope you stick

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Speaker 1: around for it. And up next, my friend Casey Fleming,

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Speaker 1: author of The Red Tsunami on the Nightcap on seven

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Speaker 1: hundred WLW hey at war with Iran, Gary Jeff and

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Speaker 1: our guest is Casey Fleming, now a return visitor to

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Speaker 1: the Nightcap. Glad to have him back on the subject,

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Speaker 1: and his book is The Red Tsunami. The Red Tsunami,

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Speaker 1: he said, not for his benefit, but for the benefit

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Speaker 1: of these United States of America, for God and country

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Speaker 1: about the threat the continuing and a one hundred year

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Speaker 1: long threat from communist China, and what we should be

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Speaker 1: looking out for, and especially as it relates to what's

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Speaker 1: the war that continues as we speak. Casey Fleming, good evening,

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Speaker 1: it's great to have you back.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: You bet so, China was getting Communist China was getting

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Speaker 1: a good share of their oil from Iran, of course,

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Speaker 1: skirting around the sanctions that had been put on running

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Speaker 1: and oil getting it cheaply. How does this affect Communist

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Speaker 1: China with what's going on right now and our involvement

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Speaker 1: with taking down the Ayatola and that regime.

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Speaker 4: It does affect the CCP and Communist China. They got

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Speaker 4: to about twenty to twenty two percent of oil from

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Speaker 4: So that's about twenty five percent. That is going to

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Speaker 4: even though this is the war of the week or

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Speaker 4: war of the month, we can't become you know, complacent

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Speaker 4: or full of hubris. This is first of all, we

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Speaker 4: did poke the terrorists, so we have to understand there's

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Speaker 4: going to be blowback. But the bigger picture, the bigger

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Speaker 4: scenario is the Chinese Communist Party and Iran as one

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Speaker 4: of their key pillars of global expansion, aggression, and intimidation.

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Speaker 4: So this plus Maduro, plus the Mexican drug cartel, all

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Speaker 4: it should be also. But lifting that aperture up to

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Speaker 4: look at the broader picture is exactly what is correct.

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Speaker 4: The way you're doing it China, all road lead back

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Speaker 4: to the Chinese Communist Party. See the FBI director Christopher Ray.

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Speaker 4: For many years and cash Ptel have said that China

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Speaker 4: is the biggest single threat to the future of the

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Speaker 4: So these distracts actions, even though they're significant and they're

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Speaker 4: on a swibble. You don't poke a terrorist without a

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Speaker 4: So yeah, and again, all roads lead back to the

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Speaker 4: Chinese Communist Party. This is just part of the beginning

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Speaker 1: It seems like China has been pretty moote a mute

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Speaker 1: as far as response to the attack and Randa. They've

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Speaker 1: AI and all the rest casey. So President Trump has

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Speaker 1: saying what you and I are saying, obviously this is

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Speaker 1: the ultimate goal is to weaken China, is it not.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, And it has to be the ultimate goal

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Speaker 4: because again they're the biggest threat to the future of

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Speaker 3: So absolutely it must be. So he what he's doing.

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Speaker 4: He's playing it very cool plausible deniability to a degree,

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Speaker 4: because everything that China does they deny, and you've got

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Speaker 4: we've got to play the game better than they do.

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Speaker 4: And these strikes I mean, these are four major strikes

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Speaker 3: You've had the Iran.

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Speaker 2: Nuclear yeah, back in back in June.

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Speaker 4: Interesting, Yeah, and then you've got Maduro with Venezuela. You've

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Speaker 4: Iran coming in within a regime change. So those are

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Speaker 4: four very significant hits to the current world order that's

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Speaker 4: trying to replace the US world order, and and that

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Speaker 4: is absolutely sending the message message back to China and Russia,

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Speaker 4: and they're watching it very very closely. You know, you

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Speaker 4: would think that with these four incursions or attacks or

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Speaker 3: But now that they see that that Iran.

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Speaker 4: Is getting hit pretty hard and we had, you know,

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Speaker 4: and we can actually do Mexico in Iran and Venezuela

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Speaker 2: Well, and.

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Speaker 1: When Russia, of course, Russia's got his hands full of

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Speaker 1: as you say, that's probably giving China pause as far

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Speaker 1: very strategic and something that the political parties you know

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Speaker 1: Powers Act and is this an illegal war? And they're

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Speaker 1: glossing over something that's pretty obvious to me, and I'm

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Speaker 1: not even an expert in geopolitics, Casey, to me, this

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Speaker 1: all seems very very pointed, and it seems like Trump

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Speaker 3: I would agree one hundred percent. You're exactly right.

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Speaker 4: You've got you've got a radical, radical left that seems

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Speaker 4: much bigger than they are, and a bigger voice because

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Speaker 4: they have several members in Congress, and they've got the

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Speaker 4: mainstream media control for their own propaganda, so it echoes

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Speaker 4: in a much larger chamber and magnification that it's much

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Speaker 4: worse than it is. But if you can imagine the

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Speaker 4: all these things. When you add up everything that happen

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Speaker 4: are all very significant moves towards communism and communism in

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Speaker 4: the United States. And I cover this. I give you

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Speaker 4: the framework in the book to the decode what's going

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Speaker 4: so you can understand a decode the past, the present,

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Speaker 1: Well, you've got congressmen like Eric's Walwell, who's been very

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Speaker 1: our involvement with Iran and how you know we shouldn't

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Speaker 1: be doing this and Iran post no threat. The same

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Speaker 1: guy who famously dated played Bang Bang with Fang Fang,

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Speaker 1: as a member of Congress. And you have to wonder

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Speaker 1: who some of these people are actually serving. They're not

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Speaker 4: Exactly and you all you mentioned swallwell he also took

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Speaker 4: campaign directly from the Chinese Communist Party.

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Speaker 3: So we are compromised, and.

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Speaker 4: The Chinese Communist Party call that, call that compromised elite.

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Speaker 4: Both in state, federal, local government and on the business side,

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Speaker 4: those are captured elites, and they do what the CCP

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Speaker 4: bids them to do through either extortion, blackmail or straight

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Speaker 4: So this is this again is World War three. It's

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Speaker 4: all playing out as it is intended to remember, World

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Speaker 4: War three was redefined three decades ago to include everything

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Speaker 4: So this military exercise in Iran is still not Mili

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Speaker 4: first of all, we all need to have our heads

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Speaker 4: on a swivel to know what's going on. Again, we

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Speaker 4: poke the terrorists. You can't just do that and expect

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Speaker 3: But that's that.

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Speaker 4: The bigger picture is all roads lead back to the

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Speaker 4: Chinese Communist Party. So you can't you can't look at

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Speaker 4: how that fits into the big picture.

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Speaker 1: If what we're saying is true, and I believe it is,

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Speaker 1: aren't Swallwell and all these other captured eleites actually guilty

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Speaker 1: of treason against the United States.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely, let me.

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Speaker 4: Let me just flip it, and people understand it better

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Speaker 4: when you flip it. What if a Chinese national or

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Speaker 4: a Chinese college student, you know, violated anything, you know,

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Speaker 4: took money from the United States. I promise you they

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Speaker 4: week in China. So our laws are so weak on treason,

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Speaker 4: they've been weakened over the years. And then the prosecutions

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Speaker 4: bench to hold to hold height on the American country.

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Speaker 1: Well, so were those wrong people on the bench or

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Speaker 1: may be counted among the captured elete you're talking about.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: And that's why you know, this is down to the

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Speaker 4: American people to get informed, to take action, and uh

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Speaker 4: to to unify and to take action.

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Speaker 3: It's down to the American people.

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Speaker 4: Your government over the decades got you into this situation. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, people who protest our country and say

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Speaker 4: The communists have to divide the United States. And absolutely

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Speaker 4: I use the word of communism because it's been growing

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Speaker 3: That's why I took the time.

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Speaker 4: I'm not a book guy, but I wrote the book

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Speaker 4: for people to really understand how their freedom is being

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Speaker 4: He allowed six hundred thousand Chinese student spies to kind

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Speaker 1: Again, your advice to all Americans who care about this country,

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent.

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Speaker 4: And you, you know, number one, vote people into office

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Speaker 4: and then they're able to take action. But number one,

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Speaker 4: The American people have an extreme amount of power in

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Speaker 3: Use that accordingly and honestly.

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Speaker 4: I would absolutely stop buying anything from China. First and foremost,

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Speaker 3: In your mouth make up.

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Speaker 4: All that stuff is tainted, jewelry, tainted, vaping products, tainted, marijuana, tainted,

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Speaker 4: You're not living in Kansas anymore, That's what.

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Speaker 1: the Communist Chinese Party. Casey Fleming, the book is the

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Speaker 1: Red Tsunami. Get it, understand it and pass it along.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Gary, my pleasure, all right.

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Speaker 1: this show. It's Pastor Mark Bilts from Elshadai Ministries in

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Speaker 1: He's written a book called America at War twenty four

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Speaker 1: and lo and behold, after all of our admonitions and

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Speaker 5: Well, thank you so much. It's always great to be

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Speaker 1: Now, the last time we talked, the first shot hadn't

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Speaker 1: And the last conversation we had was heavy laden with

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Speaker 1: Things like a lunar eclipse, which we have one tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: Correct, absolutely, and not only that they're landing on the festival,

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Speaker 1: Imagine that remarkable. It does sound very uncanny. And when

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Speaker 5: These are just things that it's gonna happen right around

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Speaker 5: But there's been a whole series of solar lunar eclipses

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Speaker 1: Right, and the next one is not scheduled to appear

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Speaker 5: starting in twenty.

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Speaker 2: Thirty So what is Jacob's trouble?

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Speaker 5: The tribulation is what it's referring to, the tribulations.

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Speaker 2: From the Book of Revelation exactly. Huh.

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Speaker 1: So you you believe we're that close to the end times,

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Speaker 1: You're not the only one, by the way, And I've

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Speaker 1: suspected the same for quite a while, that we were

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Speaker 1: getting closer and closer, and world events just seem to dictate.

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Speaker 1: But you've got biblical prophecy that is telling you this,

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Speaker 1: what exactly is telling you that Jacob's trouble or the

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Speaker 1: tribulation is about to begin here in the next three

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Speaker 1: and a half years or so.

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Speaker 5: Sure, it's because of math and science, and God is

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Speaker 5: the master scientist, the master mathematician. Jacob's trouble or the

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Speaker 5: seventieth Week is a seven year time period. Well, Daniel

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Speaker 5: was Jewish, which means it has to be a Shamito

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Speaker 5: week or based on the biblical calendar, it can't be

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Speaker 5: any random seven years and the next smeta cycle starts

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Speaker 5: in the fall of twenty twenty nine. Now, if the

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Speaker 5: tribulation doesn't start, then it can't start until seven years later,

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Speaker 5: because it has to begin the beginning of a Shmita cycle. Now,

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Speaker 5: the reason why I believe it's going to begin in

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Speaker 5: three and a half years is because from the fall

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Speaker 5: of twenty twenty nine to twenty thirty six there's an

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Speaker 5: astronomical eclipses, both solar and lunar. And get a load

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Speaker 5: of this. It's divided in to two three and a

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Speaker 5: half year time segments. The first three and a half

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Speaker 5: years is when the two witnesses of God testify, and

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Speaker 5: the last three and a half years is the Antichrist

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Speaker 5: and the false prophet. Well, if you remember in Revelation

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Speaker 5: the two witnesses are killed right in the middle, and

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Speaker 5: then after three and a half days they rise again. Well,

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Speaker 5: guess what if, like I think, the tribulation starts on

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Speaker 5: Roshishana in the fall three and a half years later,

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Speaker 5: takes you to passover in the spring, and lo and behold,

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Speaker 5: we have a total lunar eclipse on Passover that very spring,

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Speaker 5: and three and a half days later Jesus rose from

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Speaker 5: the dead, and exactly the same time period three and

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Speaker 5: a half days later, the false Prophet and the Antichrist appear,

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Speaker 5: and Elijah and Moses rise from the dead. It's just

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Speaker 5: incredible math and science. It's all tied.

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Speaker 7: Wow.

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Speaker 1: So this, this particular lunar eclipse is the sign, the biblical

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Speaker 1: sign prophecied of war and on the feast of pure

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Speaker 1: arm Is that correct?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Or casting lots because in Exodus God said he is

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Speaker 5: definitely gonna have war with Amelek in every generation. So

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Speaker 5: this isn't Amelek attacking This is God attacking Amelek in

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Speaker 5: this generation. And so this is why we need to

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Speaker 5: be involved with that war of the Lord. Realizing this

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Speaker 5: wasn't the US war, this was God's war, it wasn't

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Speaker 5: Israel's war.

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Speaker 1: So you believe God is using President Trump in this

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Speaker 1: decision as his instrument.

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Speaker 5: Exactly humanity or chess pieces on the board that God

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Speaker 5: is res Wow, this is just so heavy.

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Speaker 1: So what what is next? How do you how do

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Speaker 1: you believe this war against Amelek turns out? Is it

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Speaker 1: is it decisive.

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Speaker 2: Very much.

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Speaker 5: As a matter of fact, it says in Isaiah there's

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Speaker 5: a city called Alam, which is in Iran. It used

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Speaker 5: to be ancient Susha, where Daniel was, where Esther was,

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Speaker 5: where Nehemiah was. See after they were in Babylon, then

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Speaker 5: they got carried over into pership, and this is where

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Speaker 5: Amelak's throne is. And so God in Isaiah says he's

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Speaker 5: going to say he has thrown not Irene Jerusalem, but

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Speaker 5: he's going to have been thrown in Alarm the arch

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Speaker 5: enemies territory.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So I believe they're you going to see a

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Speaker 5: revival and a bunch of Christians. There's, matter of fact,

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Speaker 5: over a thousands I don't remember how thousands and thousands

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Speaker 5: of mosques, over half the moss have been destroyed or

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Speaker 5: closed by the Iranians, and many of them are becoming Christians.

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Speaker 5: And so I will see a revival taking place in Iran.

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Speaker 1: So you may cutter, Yeah, right, So where does the

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Speaker 1: devil set up shop next? If Iran becomes revitalized as

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Speaker 1: a as a hotbed for.

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Speaker 5: God, this is where it becomes worldwide. He's cast out

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Speaker 5: of heaven and now he's going after he knows his

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Speaker 5: time is short. So now this is we're going to

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Speaker 5: be breaking those But it says those who understand the

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Speaker 5: times are going to be strong and do exploits. So

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Speaker 5: there's no reason to fear unless you don't have a

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Speaker 5: relationship with God.

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Speaker 2: Right. Huh.

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Speaker 1: You're also working on a book on the Antichrist that

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Speaker 1: is that through yet? Are you done with that yet

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Speaker 1: or is it out?

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Speaker 5: It'll be published in the first week of June, last

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Speaker 5: week of May. It's about how the Antichrist is going

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Speaker 5: to deceive so many Christians because he's not going to

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Speaker 5: be Muslim, he's not going to be Jewish, He's going

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Speaker 5: to be a professing Christian. You wouldn't be deceived by

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Speaker 5: a hundred dollars field that had the Ayatola's face on it. Well,

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Speaker 5: the Bible says it's going to be very strong. If

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Speaker 5: it were possible, we could even deceive the very elect.

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Speaker 5: So he is going to come across as a Christian.

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Speaker 5: This is what's going to make it photoceptive.

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Speaker 2: We see and.

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Speaker 1: Any idea at all where he is going to come from.

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Speaker 1: Is he going to come from the United States? Is

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Speaker 1: he going to come from another country? I mean, ultimately

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Speaker 1: we know where it comes from. But but do you

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Speaker 1: think that it's going to come from within our country?

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll put it this way.

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Speaker 5: I don't claim to know who the Antichrist is by

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Speaker 5: any means, but I do believe that he has to

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Speaker 5: meet certain qualifications. Number One, he has to be a

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Speaker 5: leader of one of the most powerful countries, otherwise nobody

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Speaker 5: would care to follow him. Okay, he's got to be

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Speaker 5: very well known, he's got to be famous, but he

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Speaker 5: also has to be like a billionaire because he can't

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Speaker 5: be bought or sold. And there's very few people right

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Speaker 5: now that meet all those qualifications.

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Speaker 8: Well, President President Donald Trump meets those qualifications.

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Speaker 5: I understand, and I have in my book could he

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Speaker 5: be the anti Christ? But I mentioned one other person

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Speaker 5: that doesn't have all those qualifications but potentially could within

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Speaker 5: the next three and a half years, and believe it

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Speaker 5: or not, that is Peter Thield. Peter Field's a professing Christian.

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Speaker 5: He also is an avid homosexual, and he has billionaire,

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Speaker 5: very well known. He just doesn't have the political positions.

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Speaker 5: But he's the one who financed both Trump and Vance

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Speaker 5: and I would not be surprised that in the next

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Speaker 5: election he might not be Vance's vice president, and we'll

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Speaker 5: see what happens from there.

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Speaker 1: All right, it's very interesting. So what's the next shoe

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Speaker 1: to drop? I know you're talking about the possible tribulation

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Speaker 1: beginning in the fall of twenty twenty nine, but more immediately,

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Speaker 1: what do you see for America? And is what happened

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Speaker 1: in Austin, Texas over the weekend with the Senegalese born

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Speaker 1: citizen who became a naturalized American citizen wearing the Property

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Speaker 1: of Allah sweatshirt and the Iranian flag t shirt underneath,

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Speaker 1: who went on the rampage that killed two there and

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Speaker 1: left so many others injured. This is just a glimpse

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Speaker 1: into what we can expect more of in this country.

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Speaker 2: Is that your supposition?

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Speaker 6: Mark?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely? And I wrote it in my book three years ago.

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Speaker 5: Because this fall is the elections, the midterms. Look what's

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Speaker 5: happening in Minnesota with the riots in the fighting. Well,

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Speaker 5: there's no way on either side will they want the

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Speaker 5: other side to win. There's no way Trump is going

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Speaker 5: to be a lane back or be impeached as far

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Speaker 5: as he's concerned. So he's going to be ice agents

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Speaker 5: around every voting booth, the National Guard and you're going

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Speaker 5: to see the people in the Blue states completely rioting

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Speaker 5: around all of those and I believe it's going to

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Speaker 5: heat up in July of this year is where you're

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Speaker 5: going to see all kinds of supposedly fraud protection as

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Speaker 5: well as the Democrats going out doing everything they can

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Speaker 5: claiming President Trump is trying to steal the election. Oh

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Speaker 5: so all hell's going to be breaking loose starting this summer.

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Speaker 5: Plus we're going to see I believe, terrorist attacks, terror

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Speaker 5: sales activated throughout the United States.

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Speaker 1: Well, you're based in Washington State, not exactly what i'd

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Speaker 1: call an enclave of red patriotism in this country. Right now,

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Speaker 1: exactly what are things like on the ground where you are, Mark.

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Speaker 5: Well, right now? You know, of course I'm in Tacoma,

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Speaker 5: more Republican versus Seattle, more Democrats. But we're going to

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Speaker 5: I believe we're going to see a lot of civil

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Speaker 5: uprising and disobedience happening over the next six months through

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Speaker 5: the elections. Absolutely, but right now I think people are

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Speaker 5: getting prepared to react.

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Speaker 1: All right, So the lunar the total lunar eclipse is

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Speaker 1: tomorrow morning, I mean just hours from now as we're speaking.

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Speaker 1: And again five oh four. It's supposed to last nearly

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Speaker 1: an hour. And this is a blood moon. Does that

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Speaker 1: have any significance?

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Speaker 5: Well, yes, it's all red. Why it's called the blood mood.

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Speaker 5: But typically within the Bible and in Jewish thought, that

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Speaker 5: meant a war involving Israel. And that's exactly what's going on.

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Speaker 5: We're having a war involving Israel. Solar eclipses refer to

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Speaker 5: wars among the nations, and of course we've had both,

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Speaker 5: and this is why several days are involved.

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Speaker 1: But you believe that, uh, the effort against Iran is

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Speaker 1: going to be successful, this particular effort, and yes, that Amlak,

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Speaker 1: as you say, will be defeated.

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Speaker 5: Yes, And Hebrew, the word amelek means that people who

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Speaker 5: chop off body parts, which is exactly what Hamas did

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Speaker 5: and cutting people up back on, no.

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Speaker 1: Doubt, that's that's actually what Amlak means, the people who

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Speaker 1: chop off body parts, who behead people.

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Speaker 5: Yes, that's what it means.

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Speaker 2: That's so wild that they know any anything else.

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Speaker 5: The name Hamas means violence, and God destroyed the earth

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Speaker 5: and nose day because of violence, and that's the word

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Speaker 5: harmos in Hebrew.

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Speaker 1: So, uh, is there anything. Is there anything else to

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Speaker 1: look for in the next say six months that people

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Speaker 1: point to and say, boy, Pastor Bilts was right on

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Speaker 1: target with that one.

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Speaker 5: I would say, all the biblical prophecy coming to pass,

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Speaker 5: it's going to look more and more like we're entering

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Speaker 5: these end times. Absolutely as that they're going to see.

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Speaker 5: And I recommend people go to Amazon and look me up,

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Speaker 5: or to our website ESM dot us and they'll find

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Speaker 5: all kinds of even the fridge information.

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Speaker 1: All right, fantastic ESM dot dot us dot us America

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Speaker 1: at War twenty twenty four to twenty twenty six, and

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Speaker 1: he says into twenty twenty seven, and tonight he has

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Speaker 1: said that very well, Jacob's trouble or the tribulation that

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Speaker 1: you hear about in the Book of Revelation in the

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Speaker 1: Bible may beginning in the fall of twenty twenty nine.

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Speaker 2: We're getting very very close, Mark, very.

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Speaker 5: Close, absolutely, And tonight we' a big perm party and

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Speaker 5: anyone goes to our address, they can watch you to

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Speaker 5: be at seven pm Pacific.

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Speaker 1: All right, so at ten o'clock our time. In fact,

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Speaker 1: it's happening right now. Pastor Mark Bilts esm Elshaudi Ministries

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Speaker 1: and a man who has using biblical text and math

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Speaker 1: and science and the signs to tell you what's about

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Speaker 1: to happen next. Don't forget that lunar eclipse at five

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Speaker 1: oh four this morning Eastern time. Pastor Mark, thank you again,

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Speaker 1: appreciate your time.

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Speaker 5: Well who thank you, Bye bye.

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Speaker 1: Always an interesting conversation with Pastor Bilts, and he has

659
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Speaker 1: been weirdly right the last couple of times he has

660
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Speaker 1: called about predicting things that are going to happen, and

661
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Speaker 1: the last time we talked he talked about the next

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Speaker 1: lunar eclipse and how that would portend war, specifically in

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Speaker 1: the Middle East. I'm not kidding. Go back through the

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Speaker 1: podcast and check it out. If you don't believe me,

665
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 1: you may think it's all gobling. You know, and people

666
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Speaker 1: have predicted the end of days in almost every generation.

667
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: I understand that, but when somebody's right multiple times over

668
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Speaker 1: the course of three or four years, it does more

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Speaker 1: than make you scratch your head. At least for me,

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Speaker 1: it's the Nightcap and it continues in just moments here

671
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Speaker 1: on seven hundred WLW Walker with you and on the

672
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Speaker 1: telephone is a decorated combat veteran served in Vietnam with

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Speaker 1: the first Air Cavalry Division. He has been a guest

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Speaker 1: on this show multiple times and we're glad to have

675
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: him back again. It's kind of one of those geopolitical nightcaps.

676
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Speaker 1: For some reason, it could have something to do with

677
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Speaker 1: war in Iran. Is also the author of Tiny Blunders,

678
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Speaker 1: Big Disasters, Book two, The Many Tiny Mistakes That Changed

679
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Speaker 1: the World Forever, Battlefield Tested, and a historian Taboot and

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Speaker 1: our guests now Jared not coming back to the show.

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Speaker 2: Welcome and good evening. Jared, how are you.

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Speaker 6: Thank you very much. It's an honor to be here.

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Speaker 1: As always, it's an honor to have you, especially to

684
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Speaker 1: speak at such a crucial time as this, as America

685
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: is once again in a kinetic war in the Middle East.

686
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Speaker 1: And as soon as I heard the word on Saturday morning,

687
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Speaker 1: I was on the air and I said, this cannot

688
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Speaker 1: be Iraq, this cannot be Afghanistan. And of course you're

689
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Speaker 1: a Vietnam War veteran, so it cannot be Vietnam either.

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Speaker 1: Can you explain to me, maybe maybe in some depth,

691
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Speaker 1: what is the difference between this engagement and the war

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Speaker 1: that you served in.

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Speaker 6: Jared, Yes, Well, like this kind of broader point regarding

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Speaker 6: two of the wars that could have been avoided in

695
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Speaker 6: the last sixty some id years, the war in Vietnam

696
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,280
Speaker 6: and the war had both I think should have been avoided.

697
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Speaker 6: And Texas very proud to be from hysthetic or state

698
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Speaker 6: of Texas. But in both cases we had a Texan

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Speaker 6: as President of the United States, Solid Johnson in the

700
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Speaker 6: case of Vietnam, and of course George Bush the younger

701
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Speaker 6: in the case of Iraq. There's something about we Texans

702
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Speaker 6: and war, the Alamo and Santa Centers suicide, saying about

703
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Speaker 6: our culsa. And so there was a recording conversation between

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Speaker 6: LBJ and Robert Becnimer, who was Secretary of Defense at

705
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Speaker 6: the time, and lbj's sister with Bob, I want you

706
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Speaker 6: to get somebody to put some plans together talking about

707
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Speaker 6: in the situation in Vietnam and go over there and

708
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Speaker 6: book the hell out of them. Okay, Well, all right,

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Speaker 6: so we know how that turned out. And the President

710
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Speaker 6: of the United States had been from Connecticut, Vermont or

711
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Speaker 6: North Dakota or something, it might have turned out very differently. Eisenhower,

712
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Speaker 6: by the way, to his great credit, was able to

713
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Speaker 6: very definitely avoid any new wars in the eight years

714
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Speaker 6: he was president of the United States he hated or

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Speaker 6: with a passion. That was not the case with the

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Speaker 6: 'l bej and George Buston.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, Jared, let's stop right there for just

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Speaker 2: a second.

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Speaker 1: One, How telling is that someone who had experienced himself

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Speaker 1: firsthand the horror of war, the hell of war, someone

721
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Speaker 1: who had led men to victory and war understanding that

722
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Speaker 1: war must be it must be very selectively done, and

723
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Speaker 1: it's nothing for the lighthearted or just as a dalliance

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Speaker 1: on a whim. So, I mean Eisenhower's experience had as

725
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Speaker 1: much to do with him keeping us out of the

726
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Speaker 1: wars in the eight years that he was the president,

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Speaker 1: you know, including you know, ending the Korean thing. Yes,

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Speaker 1: So I mean that if you're in the military, if

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Speaker 1: you've got combat experience, if you have led men into

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Speaker 1: battle and seen them fight and die, you're less likely

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Speaker 1: to send them there.

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Speaker 6: Right. Yes, it's a great quot from Eisenhower. He said,

733
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Speaker 6: I hate war the only way a soldier can who's

734
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Speaker 6: lived through it. It's brutality, it's utility, it's stupidity. Of course,

735
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Speaker 6: he saw young men coming back. He shot the pieces

736
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Speaker 6: going to pieces and missing legs, et cetera. And he

737
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Speaker 6: was a by the way, an expert poker player and

738
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Speaker 6: also an expert bridge player, and he knew how to

739
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Speaker 6: play his cards just right. And so there's the situation.

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Speaker 6: People were pushing us into possible war with China, believe

741
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Speaker 6: it or not. Or Kumoe and Matsu back in the

742
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Speaker 6: early middle fifties also in Vietnam, got story real quickly.

743
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Speaker 6: He had General Ridgeway in their mid nineteen fifties to

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Speaker 6: a Blue Commission review on the possibility of what happened

745
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Speaker 6: going into war in Vietnam. Came back with all of

746
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Speaker 6: us be involved with a number of air wings that

747
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Speaker 6: had to be involved in there, Green troops, Army troops, Navy,

748
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Speaker 6: et cetera like that, and talked about how Vietnam was

749
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Speaker 6: a gorilla fighters paradise and the jungles and the monsoons

750
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Speaker 6: and the rivers converging together, et cetera. And so basically

751
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Speaker 6: it was a Blue Ribbon Commission report that recommended the

752
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Speaker 6: gifts going into Vietnam. Eisenhower reviewed the report and of

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Speaker 6: course decided to stay out of Vietnam. It's too bad

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Speaker 6: that Lynnon Johnson did not read that same report, But no,

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Speaker 6: he was very wise about the voice according wars and

756
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Speaker 6: hanry situations, it's just the correct way, so we did

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Speaker 6: not have to go into conflict.

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Speaker 1: Well, we have a current president who also did not

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Speaker 1: serve in combat in the military and did run on

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Speaker 1: not getting us into any more stupid, senseless forever wars.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe that this is that, do you.

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Speaker 6: No? And I will give our current president a lot

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Speaker 6: of credit. If you look at back the Afghanistan that

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Speaker 6: was a boxed and also the war in the Rock

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Speaker 6: that was a bow who happened in Venezuela beautifully handled,

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Speaker 6: a beautiful planned and executed also at midnight Hammer beautifully handled.

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Speaker 6: And I think this situation was very well fought out,

768
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Speaker 6: like talented people raising Kine Beat to Access was markar Rubio,

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Speaker 6: and I think they have a plan that is going

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Speaker 6: to work and eliminate the current toxic regime and replace

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Speaker 6: it with the democratic regime coming from the people of

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Speaker 6: Iran themselves. It's a tall order, it's a great challenging

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Speaker 6: but I think our very well planned, to ole organized

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Speaker 6: president is going to be able to put off. And

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Speaker 6: we'll see the next three or four weeks how successfully

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Speaker 6: can be. But I would say that we're probably going

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Speaker 6: to end up in a good place when it's all

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Speaker 6: said and done.

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Speaker 1: What were the tiny blunders that added up to some

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Speaker 1: big disasters, say in Afghanistan in your opinion, Jared.

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Speaker 6: Well, all I think was just done. See of the pants.

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Speaker 6: It was just kind of all okay, we withdraw and

783
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Speaker 6: it's just kind of okay sending the orders over here,

784
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Speaker 6: and it was not organized, was not well thought out.

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Speaker 6: We did not have the meticketus planning there. A contrast

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Speaker 6: that with Venezuela, which is an extremely difficult operation. He

787
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Speaker 6: was Madera was locked in this by these steel doors

788
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Speaker 6: and all these guards around him. They have to go

789
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Speaker 6: in there, precisely blow off in the space of a

790
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Speaker 6: few minutes, grant him and his wife and the Pazonmas

791
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Speaker 6: haul off to the helicopters. And when they went, beautiful

792
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Speaker 6: and beautifully fought out, planned and executed. You have to

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Speaker 6: give them it was a beautiful plan that executed those operations,

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Speaker 6: and history you have to give them. An A plus

795
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Speaker 6: is how how professional it was. Afghan stand it would

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Speaker 6: not have been an A plus. It would have been

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Speaker 6: farther down the alphabet.

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Speaker 1: Well, you're you're talking, you're talking about the withdrawal from Afghanistan. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: But what about what about us getting into Afghanistan in

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Speaker 1: the first place?

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Speaker 2: Did we make mistakes there?

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Speaker 6: Yes, I'm not sure. The entire thingker was there was

803
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Speaker 6: a wake of nine to eleven and there was a

804
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Speaker 6: feeling there need to be some kind of a need

805
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Speaker 6: to strike out against those forces which calls us nine

806
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Speaker 6: to eleven. We went to wading into it. They did

807
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Speaker 6: not have a Blue Ribbon Commission report to review the

808
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Speaker 6: situation there. We went wading into it and find ourselves

809
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Speaker 6: in the kind of quadmire. And it was we first

810
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Speaker 6: slopping there be one mistake, was slopp into another mistake,

811
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Speaker 6: and then when it's all said and done, we shouldn't

812
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Speaker 6: have maybe gone there in the first place, is at

813
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Speaker 6: least not to the extent that we did.

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Speaker 1: In the way that we did a raq seems to

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Speaker 1: me to be in hindsight, just awful.

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Speaker 2: Why were we there?

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Speaker 6: Yes, again, the kind of in the wake of nine eleven,

818
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Speaker 6: the feeling was we needed to be doing something. And

819
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Speaker 6: also here so often they say the generals are fighting

820
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Speaker 6: the last war. Well, in the previous war was nine

821
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Speaker 6: to eleven. Ge. We were not connecting the dots, we

822
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Speaker 6: were not being pre emptive enough. Now we faced the

823
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Speaker 6: situation with Saddam saying, maybe he's got to look at

824
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Speaker 6: the program coming together. He's got the book was the

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Speaker 6: best destruction secure, We don't want to make the particular

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Speaker 6: aid last time, so that same kind of mentality, let's

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Speaker 6: be preempty. Well, the pre empty was not the right

828
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Speaker 6: thing to do, terms out it's nuclear program, but it

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Speaker 6: was nothing, and it was just very in its early

830
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Speaker 6: early stages. If that is whether the best destruction are

831
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Speaker 6: very very limited. There was no real justification for the

832
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Speaker 6: war and no good planning for the war and the

833
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Speaker 6: whole concept. But empty was just not probably was the

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Speaker 6: right thing to do for nine to eleven. It was

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Speaker 6: a wrong thing to do. For a walk, it was

836
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Speaker 6: just botched mess and again it would not give the

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Speaker 6: people who made those decisions very high works. But they're

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Speaker 6: planning on their prescients.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jared, if you do me a favorite, I want

840
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Speaker 1: to get maybe a clearer signal on your phone. So

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Speaker 1: we're going to take a break and maybe reconnect in

842
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Speaker 1: just a minute and see if we can because you're

843
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Speaker 1: saying some really important stuff, and I want to make

844
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Speaker 1: sure the audience can fully understand kind of garbled. So

845
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Speaker 1: we'll take a quick break and come back more with

846
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Speaker 1: Jared not in just a moment, the author of tiny blunders,

847
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Speaker 1: Big disasters too. Tiny mistakes that you know, man, they

848
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Speaker 1: make a lot of difference down the line. It's the

849
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Speaker 1: nightcap back after a break on seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 2: What's going on right now in Iran?

851
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Speaker 1: Specifically against the back drop of history and against the

852
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Speaker 1: back drop of combat. The President has not said that

853
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Speaker 1: we're going to have troops on the ground in Iran.

854
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Speaker 2: What do you think the possibility of us avoiding that?

855
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Speaker 1: We've already suffered sadly some deaths of American servicemen and

856
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Speaker 1: the retaliatory strikes that Iran made in the opening day

857
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Speaker 1: or so of the war.

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Speaker 2: Can we avoid troops on the ground.

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Speaker 6: I'm Susdala and I have not discussed this, but my

860
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Speaker 6: opinion is that we got a decent chance of being

861
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Speaker 6: able to do that. This is a lot of planning

862
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Speaker 6: and law of thought has gone into that particular very

863
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Speaker 6: sense of the question that you're raised. They're hopeful that

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Speaker 6: they'll be able to train answer to have a plan

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Speaker 6: in place, some of the people who are the citizens

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Speaker 6: of Iran having already been trained, giving weapons on and

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Speaker 6: so forth, and hopefully they'll be able to pull it off. Whoever,

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Speaker 6: if not, the backup position is Plan B is for

869
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Speaker 6: American troops to go in there and make a decisive

870
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Speaker 6: work of the situation. If I had to wager, at

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Speaker 6: wager that we could probably pull it off the American

872
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Speaker 6: troops on the ground, but maybe not, We'll just have

873
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 6: to Well, I.

874
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 2: Mean, I'll tell you what.

875
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: The last thing that the American people want, I believe,

876
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: is to see this this house to house fighting in

877
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 1: Fallujah like we did in Iraq. I think that's the

878
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: last thing the American people have a stomach for. What's

879
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: the possibility that we create a serious opening for long

880
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: term Middle East peace with eliminating the Ayatola, the Supreme

881
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: Leader and all these top leaders the regime in Iran?

882
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: Are the chances good? Now we could see some sustained

883
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: Middle East piece jared in a region that has been

884
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: so so war torn for so many decades.

885
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 6: Yes, I think that goal down the road, several steps

886
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 6: down the road, is a serious possibility. The biggest thing

887
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 6: in favor of it is that eighty five ninety percent

888
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 6: of the people of a run itself want just exactly that.

889
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 6: They want freedom, they want democracy, they want to be

890
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 6: able to collect their own rulers, and they want the

891
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,399
Speaker 6: fanatics who have been running their country for over forty

892
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 6: years to be gone. That's the biggest thing in favor

893
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 6: of what you just mentioned. Getting where we are now

894
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 6: to that position is going to be very tricky. They

895
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 6: have about a million armed forces kind of the police

896
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,439
Speaker 6: and secret police, plus also their army and the navy.

897
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,879
Speaker 6: They have got a million men and women, I guess

898
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 6: almost all men in their case, many of them fanatically

899
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 6: determined to die and for their cause and go to

900
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 6: heaven where they get forty virgins and their mansion in

901
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 6: the sky or whatever nonsense. Is going to be the

902
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 6: tough part, and they're extremely fanatical, going to be very intractable,

903
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 6: and if they are reasonable people, of course, they wouldn't

904
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 6: be the position they're in to begin with, which you're

905
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 6: dealing with fanatics.

906
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 2: Bent on dying.

907
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 6: That's going to be the tough challenges next three or

908
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 6: four weeks. Although I think we have a good chance

909
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 6: of pulling it off. Well.

910
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 1: It's estimated that about ten percent of the population of

911
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:27,320
Speaker 1: Iran are of the Islamist radical bent in other words, supportingly,

912
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 1: which it doesn't seem like a lot, but that's like

913
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 1: nine million people.

914
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 2: So you've got the.

915
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: Possibility of nine million terrorists in a country of ninety million,

916
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: you know, most of which want peace. But you know,

917
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 1: imagine what nineteen terrorists did on a couple of airplanes

918
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: here in this country. So nine million terrorists, these radicals

919
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 1: that you're talking about, willing to die for Allah and

920
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:59,240
Speaker 1: get their virgins. That's a lot of people.

921
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 6: Yes, we have people believing in that kind of fanatical

922
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 6: fantasy nonsense to begin with, you sit down at the

923
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 6: table and try to reasonable a reasoning for some people

924
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 6: who don't believe in reasoning. Yes, so it's going to

925
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 6: be very tough. But I'm sure I've thought about all this,

926
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 6: They've planned all this, and they've done very very beautiful

927
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 6: work at planning it so far. And I think their plan,

928
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 6: I don't know what it is exactly, will fall into

929
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 6: place at however you make it raise a very good point.

930
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 6: It could very well be if it doesn't go as

931
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,280
Speaker 6: well as we hope. The plan B is for American

932
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 6: troops to go in which I think would be very decisive.

933
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:41,919
Speaker 6: But of course the casualties, the young man killed and dead,

934
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 6: and that to night Marri that no one wants. So

935
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 6: I say, no one wants. That's what, of course the

936
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 6: enemy wants. But that is to be a wander down,

937
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 6: but it may be ultimately necessary.

938
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: I talked to another author previously, gosh, it's been about

939
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: six seven months ago, named James Bradley, who spent ten

940
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 1: years in post war Vietnam after we had long after

941
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: we had pulled out, and and just talking to the

942
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:12,760
Speaker 1: people there, and he said, one of the problems with Vietnam,

943
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: in fact, the main problem was they didn't see other

944
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: Vietnamese as the enemy. They didn't see they just saw Vietnamese,

945
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 1: and they wondered why the Americans were there. They didn't

946
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 1: see communists, and they didn't see you know, people who

947
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: loved liberty. They just saw each other as neighbors, whether

948
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 1: they were north or south of the you know, DMZ.

949
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: And that was the issue. And that's that goes along

950
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 1: with the lack of planning and the lack of understanding

951
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: of the region. Here, What were the risks of inaction

952
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 1: in Iran if we hadn't if the president hadn't decided

953
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 1: to give the order and do this, if they hadn't

954
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: planned this, this attack to take down the top leadership

955
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 1: and to basically neoter that country's military abilities and nuclear abilities.

956
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: What were the risks of inaction that would have been?

957
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 1: That would have been quite a blunder in and of itself.

958
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 6: Do you think yes? I think so. Going back to

959
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 6: the fundamentals, you have a rans Iranian leadership wanting to

960
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 6: build a nuclear weapon. They just of course had their

961
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 6: program obliterating, but they still had a large amount of

962
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 6: highly enriched fuel available to them. They're going back trying

963
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 6: to regenerate their program and to move down the road

964
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 6: to a minuclear weapon once again. They may have had

965
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 6: enough material that they could have produced two or three

966
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 6: or four Dukud weapons. I don't know, but they just

967
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 6: wouldn't give up. They just wouldn't give up, and it'd

968
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 6: be the same thing we've been dealing with these last

969
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 6: forty so had years a terrorism spread throughout the Middle

970
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 6: East to the neighboring countries. Are murders taking place, Americans

971
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 6: being a murdered, A serious nightmarish possibility of a radical

972
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 6: regime having control of nuclear weapons. I can hardly imagine

973
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 6: a greater nightmare than the leaders of Iran having nuclear weapons,

974
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 6: trying to use them, maybe successfully getting them denonated against Israel,

975
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 6: and Israel recoperating with their own nucletive weapons. There would

976
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 6: just be a blood bath like the world has never seen.

977
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 6: They just cannot be allowed to have a nucletar weapon,

978
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 6: and the only thing to do is to be preemptive

979
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 6: about it and to destroy the possibility before it ever

980
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 6: takes place.

981
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,479
Speaker 2: So it's it is a matter of somewhat of self

982
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 2: defense on our part.

983
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 6: Long term, well thought out future planning, self defense. You

984
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 6: could just drift along, drift along, trying to use past

985
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 6: this approach and trying to do use appeasement and dealing

986
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 6: with an evil force.

987
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 2: Well, did we did that.

988
00:59:56,520 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 1: We did that for decades through many different presidents terms,

989
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: you know, thinking that, you know, it was funny, funny

990
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 1: in a kind of a strange way that the Iranian spokesperson,

991
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 1: I guess we didn't get him in the initial tack, said,

992
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 1: Iran has done negotiating because every time we negotiate with

993
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 1: the United States, we had midnight hammer and now epic fury.

994
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 2: Well, President Trump, I say, it's just the opposite.

995
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 1: He tried to negotiate, He tried it for a diplomatic

996
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 1: resolution of this, and when and he gave him a

997
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 1: deadline when they were making no progress and the deadline

998
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 1: was missed, Boom, it's on.

999
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I thought that was very smart too.

1000
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, they would still be negotiating, and it'd been negotiating

1001
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 6: a month from now and six months while and at

1002
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 6: the same kind of negotiating that it wasn't build the weapons. Yeah,

1003
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 6: they just were. They were just absolutely impracticable. And the

1004
01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 6: basic principle is that appeasement with a very aggressive opponent

1005
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 6: only encourages and emboldens that upon it back Communich, of course,

1006
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 6: with devil Chamberlain, you're just writing fuel to the fire.

1007
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 6: And they see that will be nice to them, that

1008
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 6: will be nice and accent, will be reasonable with them,

1009
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 6: with reasonable eletron. They see that as a weakness. They

1010
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 6: see that as an opportunity for exploitation. And that's all

1011
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 6: that you get is just an encouraged, deadly, fanatical enemy.

1012
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 6: The only way to solve the problem is to pull

1013
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 6: it out by its roots, to do what we're doing.

1014
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 6: Painful as it is, the past presidence would make sort

1015
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 6: of the easy choice of the soft choice as opposed

1016
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 6: to the difficult choice. Not to be fair, we have

1017
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 6: a better opportunity now than we did during the Green

1018
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 6: Revolution several years ago, and the opportunity is never been

1019
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 6: so good as it is right now. But the past presidents,

1020
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 6: including Obama of course obviously Biden, I will always take

1021
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 6: a very soft, passless role, a piece of the role,

1022
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 6: and that never works in that kind of situation.

1023
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad that President Trump didn't send them eight

1024
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 1: hundred billion dollars in a palate on a tarmac, Jared not.

1025
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time tonight.

1026
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 1: The book again tiny blunders, big disasters too, the many

1027
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 1: tiny mistakes that changed the world forever.

1028
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 2: And I appreciate your insight, man, and thank you for

1029
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 2: your service.

1030
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 6: Once again, it's thank you so much, thank you very much.

1031
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 2: You got it. What does it mean here on the homeland?

1032
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 1: This war in Iran was Austin Texas, just the first

1033
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 1: shoe to drop in the aftermath with a terror from

1034
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 1: people who were in this country, who are our Islamis,

1035
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 1: who love the revolution, who are looking to take down

1036
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 1: the West. That took the word seriously death to America

1037
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 1: one cut at a time, Michael Letts from invest USA

1038
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 1: to talk about just that when we continue on the

1039
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 1: Nightcap at seven hundred WLW, Horseman veteran. He is a

1040
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 1: man behind an organization, a nonprofit called invest USA providing

1041
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 1: hundreds of different towns around the country with thousands of

1042
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 1: the best possible bulletproof vests for their law enforcement, their

1043
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 1: first responders, and a multiple guests, multiple time guests here

1044
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 1: on the Nightcap. And he's back again this evening because

1045
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 1: the news dictates it and because I like talking to him,

1046
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 1: The one and only Michael Letts from invest back on

1047
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 1: the phone.

1048
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 2: Hi, Mike, how are you Gary.

1049
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 9: It's always a privileg to be with you. We thank

1050
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 9: you for the opportunity and thank you for what you've

1051
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 9: been doing to help bring America back to the greatnest

1052
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 9: once again.

1053
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 1: Well, we are a country at war now, Michael. And

1054
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 1: while we think, you know a lot of people think

1055
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 1: that the war is over in Iran and in the

1056
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 1: Middle East, it could very easily come onto our shores.

1057
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 1: And maybe it has already come on to our shores

1058
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 1: in the form of isolated incidents of terrorism.

1059
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 2: And we had no better example of that. Perhaps the

1060
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 2: FBI is.

1061
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 1: Investigating right now the connections between the Senegalese national who

1062
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 1: was now a naturalized American citizen who shot up Austin,

1063
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 1: Texas in a nightclub event, killed two himself and then

1064
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 1: fourteen others were wounded seriously in this attack over the weekend,

1065
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 1: as soon as America had began attacking Iran.

1066
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 2: I didn't find that that was a weird coincidence.

1067
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 1: I found it to be very very telling about what

1068
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 1: we can expect more of in this country for a

1069
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 1: number of reasons.

1070
01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 9: What are your thoughts, well, Gar, I think that's a

1071
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 9: the ice perg do. I think you're exactly right on queue.

1072
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 9: Let's talk about what we know. We know for a

1073
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 9: fact that with the previous administration we brought in millions,

1074
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 9: un vetted hundreds of thousands that were on the terrorist

1075
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 9: watch list.

1076
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:15,479
Speaker 2: That's a fact.

1077
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 6: Nobody can argue that we know.

1078
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 9: Unfortunately, about a year and a half ago, I would

1079
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 9: tell you on your show, we have over one hundred

1080
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 9: sleeper sales in this country that we identify it now

1081
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 9: over one thousand, over a thousand sleeper sales across this

1082
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 9: great nation of ours. We know for a fact led

1083
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 9: Iran is probably the central point for terrorism globally. What

1084
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 9: doesn't mean by central point most of the money for

1085
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 9: all these terrorist organizations funnels through Iran.

1086
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 1: Okay, And it's not just it's not just Hesbalah and

1087
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Speaker 1: Amas either.

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Speaker 9: No, no, no, it's a talent boy, it's Isis uh

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Speaker 9: you name it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we could go.

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Speaker 9: Down the list, but I mean they they all have.

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Speaker 9: It's a big brotherhood. In fact, they called the Muslim brotherhood.

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Speaker 9: So they're all interconnected.

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Speaker 6: We know that for a fact.

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01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 9: Now take the next step. We know for a fact

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01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 9: that we have actually supported terrorists in the past. We're

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Speaker 9: doing a number of different ways. For President Obama sent

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01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 9: six billion dollars in pallets and cash over there. He

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01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 9: didn't just do that because he woke up one morning

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01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 9: and said, gee, I wonder what I could do today.

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01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 9: Let me think of something.

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Speaker 6: Maybe this should be a good idea.

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Speaker 9: That money has been sent over there for a lot

1104
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 9: of the various purposes. We supported terrorists ourselves to our

1105
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 9: own deck attack jobs. We supported it through the fraud

1106
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 9: that's occurred in uh Milwaukee, Minnesota soda through through the Samonians.

1107
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 9: We know that that's documented, and so we have now

1108
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 9: struck there are because of the fact that you can't

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01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:07,480
Speaker 9: have people that hate us have the ability to destroy

1110
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 9: us through new go capability along one of the many

1111
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 9: reasons why we have struggle. But the great part of

1112
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 9: us tricking is we have disrupted their organizational and the

1113
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 9: ability to move money around and the flow. However, we

1114
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 9: haven't destroyed it, we just interrupted it. We know for

1115
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 9: a fact, our intelligence agencies show that there's communications going

1116
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 9: to the sleeper sales to try to enact it.

1117
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 6: And why is that why they try to.

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Speaker 9: Do it because they now realize we're not just playing

1119
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 9: foots with them. Gary, this isn't all our war against

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Speaker 9: good and evil, and we're there to destroy what they

1121
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 9: have had a place for decades of trying to manipulate,

1122
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 9: trying to intimidate, trying to threaten, and trying to overtake

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01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 9: through a lowinghtis and using their money. Where do they

1124
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 9: get their money from from? They ge different world. You

1125
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 9: think you spend the world like you should on there

1126
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 9: helping their people. Of course not, they spend it on

1127
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 9: terrorism and positioning themselves to subvert to spread their bile

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01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 9: philosophy across the world. Now they know that they're in

1129
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 9: for the who are the thought of their lives. They

1130
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 9: know that they're trying to hold on his survive, so

1131
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 9: they're going to use everything possibly paying here. They tried

1132
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 9: to combat this, including Moss Leaver stills in this country.

1133
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:20,680
Speaker 1: It was a big first step getting rid of Haminie

1134
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:24,760
Speaker 1: the Iatola, yes, the Supreme Leader is what it's called,

1135
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 1: and then forty nine other top leaders in Iran.

1136
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:29,640
Speaker 2: They are scrambling.

1137
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:33,599
Speaker 1: They have no idea who they are going to lead

1138
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 1: the ten percent of the people in their country who

1139
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 1: are Islamists, who also believe that they're doing the will

1140
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:43,599
Speaker 1: of God by killing the infidel. Death to America, death

1141
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 1: to Israel. But like you said, the real threat now

1142
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 1: is the war coming home here in the face of

1143
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 1: and in the guise of terrorism, whether it's homegrown or

1144
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 1: it's been imported and allowed to flourish in this country

1145
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 1: with these sleeper cells. And yes, a year ago we

1146
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 1: were talking about one hundred sleeper cells with you on

1147
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 1: this program in this country, and now there are thousands

1148
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 1: we believe, and the FBI believes, Michael, And you know,

1149
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 1: just this past weekend in Cincinnati had a shooting, a

1150
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 1: mass shooting at a place called the Riverfront Live or whatever,

1151
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 1: a big club where there are five or six hundred

1152
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 1: people gathered, and we don't know if that's just the

1153
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 1: routine Cincinnati gangster or want to be gangster who's doing

1154
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 1: this for some unknown reason. We don't know if that

1155
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:44,639
Speaker 1: may be another leg of this domestic terrorism, just trying

1156
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:48,640
Speaker 1: to cause chaos and kill people along the way or

1157
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:51,640
Speaker 1: hurt people along the way with these these shock and

1158
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 1: awe singular events.

1159
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 2: You just don't know, right, I mean, that's the things.

1160
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 9: One of the things we do know is that they

1161
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 9: seem to all be kind of partnered together now, whether

1162
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:12,759
Speaker 9: it is the drug cartels, whether it is the Islam

1163
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:16,599
Speaker 9: and jihadis, whether there's some of the key leftist liberals.

1164
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 9: If you hate America, you're part of the team. And

1165
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 9: that is where they're all beginning now, to partner, to

1166
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 9: trade information, to trade tactics. And that is what we

1167
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:31,600
Speaker 9: are now beginning to see across this country. And that

1168
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 9: is why is that because if they can disrupt in

1169
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 9: the United States. Remember they tried to do this in Vietnam,

1170
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 9: they never you know before, portray the graphicness combat until

1171
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:49,320
Speaker 9: they brought on TV. But the hope that America would say, whoa,

1172
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:52,599
Speaker 9: we don't want to party, shut it down, gets out

1173
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:54,800
Speaker 9: of this. And I hope for the same thing here.

1174
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 9: They can bring domestic terrorism on our shore and cause

1175
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 9: Americans to panic. They think they may be able to

1176
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 9: win by getting us to say, you know what, second thought,

1177
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 9: let's just let them do their thing. We'll do our thing.

1178
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 9: Let's just all be friends and go home.

1179
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 2: That'll never work well, Michael.

1180
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 1: Another problem here in Cincinnati, and it's a problem that's

1181
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 1: not unique to Cincinnati, since the most major cities in

1182
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 1: this country are Democrat and are blue so to speak,

1183
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 1: is that the press conference that was held by the

1184
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 1: mayor immediately following the mass shooting at Riverfront Live, what

1185
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 1: did it focus on? It focused on gun violence, as

1186
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 1: if the gun jumped up and did this itself. It's

1187
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:42,720
Speaker 1: the same thing over and over again, with no consideration

1188
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 1: as to why it occurred, the method, the tool that

1189
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 1: was used was the focus of the press conference and

1190
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 1: other community leaders speaking out, Michael, it wasn't the why

1191
01:11:57,200 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 1: were the who behind it? It was how was perpetrated.

1192
01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 1: And these terrorists don't care what kind of tool they use,

1193
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:08,759
Speaker 1: whether it's going to be a handgun, or a rifle,

1194
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 1: or a car or a knife. We've seen all those

1195
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 1: different kinds of attacks. And it has nothing to do

1196
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:20,639
Speaker 1: with the tool they use. It's the mentality and it's

1197
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 1: the philosophy that they have of causing chaos and killing

1198
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:29,680
Speaker 1: the infidel. A. This is a religious war, if ever

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Speaker 1: there was one. And you mentioned good and evil at

1200
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 1: the top, and that's exactly what it's the battle about.

1201
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 9: Well, you're exactly right, and we need to understand why

1202
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 9: to use the tacks that they do. They know that

1203
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 9: America is the most heavily armed country in the world.

1204
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:48,720
Speaker 9: You know, we saw this at the World War Two.

1205
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:53,720
Speaker 9: We interviewed some of the Japanese animals and generals. You

1206
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 9: caught us by surprise in Pearl Harbor. Why didn't you

1207
01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 9: just keep coming? And they said, you think we're crazy.

1208
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 9: We know how many Americans that are not military. We

1209
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 9: just Americans have arms. They would be taking all the

1210
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 9: largest army in the world if we had done that,

1211
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 9: and that's, of course, that's why we didn't move forward.

1212
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:14,799
Speaker 2: Well, America, those.

1213
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 9: Who hate America understand that principle. The only way you

1214
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:20,839
Speaker 9: can win and destroy this country is to remove its firearms.

1215
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 9: It's armaments away, So every chance they get, they have

1216
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 9: to say it's all caused because of ours. Give us

1217
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 9: the opportunity to take away all the arms, and we'll

1218
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 9: give you a peaceful society. We all know that past

1219
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 9: not is true, but that's what they want you to believe.

1220
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 9: And so they understand their motive and they're objective. Get

1221
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 9: rid of the arms. Now you can't fight back.

1222
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:42,680
Speaker 6: Now the battle's over.

1223
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 9: They've won, and that is what they're attempting to do.

1224
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:48,799
Speaker 9: They want to cause panic again and they're on our streets.

1225
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 9: They want terrorists attacks occur. They want to do just

1226
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 9: what you said here, blame the fear that you're feeling

1227
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:57,560
Speaker 9: on Oh, it's all these weapons that we have. We

1228
01:13:57,640 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 9: got to get rid of them. Give them the power

1229
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:03,040
Speaker 9: to confiscate it everything, and will all this will go away, folks.

1230
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:06,839
Speaker 9: Will makes it go away. Standing my principle and having values,

1231
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 9: not by capitulating the evil. And we can never do

1232
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:11,680
Speaker 9: that because we never went and.

1233
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 1: Being able to defend yourself. So there there is a deterrent,

1234
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 1: you know, because obviously, Michael, in this country right now,

1235
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 1: the court system is not a deterrent because will have

1236
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 1: all these leftist judges who are letting hardened criminals back

1237
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 1: out on the street to offend again, whether it be

1238
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 1: a you know, child molestation, whether it be rape, whether

1239
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 1: it be assault, whether it be even murder. That there

1240
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:41,719
Speaker 1: tends to be sadly a revolving door in our criminal

1241
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 1: justice system that is letting them out. And I believe

1242
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 1: that they are in concert and cohercion with these other groups,

1243
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:53,680
Speaker 1: these these radical leftist judges, to continue to do the

1244
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 1: same thing.

1245
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 9: You know, our judicial system has been Kribson, our jactive

1246
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:01,639
Speaker 9: branch corrupted. Even though we have a new we still

1247
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 9: have a lot of remnants and the old systems that

1248
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:06,920
Speaker 9: are still known have been corrupted. Our legislative brands have

1249
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:09,720
Speaker 9: been corrupted. We know that there is more corruption. I

1250
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 9: tell people this all the time, and this current administration.

1251
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 9: While we are deeply grateful that we are freeing people

1252
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 9: from around the world from the horror of the corruption

1253
01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 9: and of their government, when are we're going to free

1254
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:27,640
Speaker 9: Americans from the corruption of ours? We know that we

1255
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 9: are probably one of the most corrupt countries in the.

1256
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 7: World at the moment.

1257
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 9: Unfortunately, the only way we can do it is we

1258
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 9: can't count our judicial system to stay corrupted. We have

1259
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 9: to go to military tribunals. I think you're going to

1260
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:39,240
Speaker 9: be seeing that move down.

1261
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:40,680
Speaker 7: No, we don't go to stay there.

1262
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 9: That's not how we're going to start doing things for

1263
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:44,720
Speaker 9: in the future. But we got to start busting up

1264
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 9: the dam to let the water flow, and I believe

1265
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:50,360
Speaker 9: that's the best way to do it, all right, do so?

1266
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:54,040
Speaker 1: I mean, how do we track down all these these

1267
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:58,240
Speaker 1: sleeper cells if we know they exist and we have

1268
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 1: the ability to kill the Ayatola and forty nine leaders?

1269
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 1: I mean, do we want our military to be focused

1270
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:11,600
Speaker 1: on enforcing the law and rooting out domestic terrorism in

1271
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 1: this country? Do we really want a surveillance state? Michael,

1272
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:16,760
Speaker 1: there's a thin line that we have to want.

1273
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 9: Aline, you know, there's a thin line, And the answer

1274
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 9: to your question is ultimately no. However, we have to

1275
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 9: recognize that they've done a great job of decimating our

1276
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:31,719
Speaker 9: first responders in our Timzu line over the last six years,

1277
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 9: and we're going to have to have military assistance to

1278
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 9: bring it back where it.

1279
01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 5: Needs to be.

1280
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 9: Like I said, that is not where we want it

1281
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 9: to be, and it's not where we're going to have

1282
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 9: it for the long term. But we have become so corrupted.

1283
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 9: But that's the only way we're going to be able

1284
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 9: to start restoring through freedom and justice in this country

1285
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:55,800
Speaker 9: once again. And I think Americans have got to the

1286
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:57,720
Speaker 9: point they're willing to accept what needs to be done

1287
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 9: to get this ball onder way.

1288
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 1: I'm going to talk a little bit about what invest

1289
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:05,600
Speaker 1: USA does, since we haven't really talked about that for

1290
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 1: a while. Michael Lett's CEO of INVEST USA founder. When

1291
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 1: people think of bulletproof vests, they have an idea that well,

1292
01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 1: that means that the law enforcement officers is fully protected

1293
01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:24,720
Speaker 1: from the threats he faces on the streets. But the

1294
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 1: average bullet proof vest is not the top of the line,

1295
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:32,680
Speaker 1: and the most protection that it's available is it.

1296
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:37,600
Speaker 9: You're exactly right to give a quicker review. When we

1297
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:40,760
Speaker 9: started with best was in the late eighties and they

1298
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 9: were called concealable. This and the reason why they were

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Speaker 9: called concealable this is the officers warm underneath the uniforms

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01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:49,840
Speaker 9: and they're made of nothing but twenty seven or thirty

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01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:50,839
Speaker 9: two layers of kevlar.

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Speaker 6: They are made.

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Speaker 9: Specifically to stop aside on a pistol, that's all. They

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01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 9: will stop a nine or a rifle where I will

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01:17:58,040 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 9: go right through to that you weren't wearing one at all.

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01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 9: But back in those days, in the eighties and nineties,

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01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:05,760
Speaker 9: criminals were ashamed of what they did. That's why you

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01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:07,840
Speaker 9: took a pistol of stuff that under your shirt before

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01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 9: you're walking into the gas station. You didn't want everybody

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01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:10,160
Speaker 9: to know what.

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Speaker 2: You were picking to do.

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Speaker 9: Kids of change, Gary. Now you have cartel members, you

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01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:18,560
Speaker 9: have terrorists, you have human sex shoppers. They're proud of

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01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 9: their profession. They don't use a pistol anymore. They use

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01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:23,920
Speaker 9: an AK forty seven. He used a shotgun. They used

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01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 9: long range rifles cut right through that could see a

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01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:28,640
Speaker 9: little vest. So we had to stop and create a

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01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:31,520
Speaker 9: new technology called active shoot or vest that have titanium

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01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 9: plates stop anything out there. The problem is that only

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01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 9: ten percent of our cops have them as of right now,

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01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:42,679
Speaker 9: and ninety percent are unprotected. Why is that. They're varying reasons,

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01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 9: but most people think that, well you got something, you

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01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:47,800
Speaker 9: should be satisfied with what you have. That's kind of

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01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:49,720
Speaker 9: a shame to ask somebody to go out and put

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01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 9: his life on the line to protect you and you

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01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:54,360
Speaker 9: can't give him the resources necessary to give him a

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01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 9: fighting chance to come home to his family.

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Speaker 1: Right, So these I mean you hear about armor piercing bullets,

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01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 1: the titanium plates are they're going to assist in a

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Speaker 1: situation like that.

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Speaker 9: Most they will stop that as well.

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Speaker 2: Huh.

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01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:17,120
Speaker 1: And how is invest USA helping? And how can people

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01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:19,120
Speaker 1: help invest USA?

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Speaker 9: Well, if they go to our website that's I n

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Speaker 9: theeest USA and which is a dot org this is

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01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 9: the key, not dot com, a dot org, dot org,

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01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 9: they can make a contribution to help them put these

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01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 9: vests on all the officers that need them. That's the

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01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 9: best thing we can do is we're asking officers today

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01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 9: put their lives on the line in a profession that

1342
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:44,600
Speaker 9: the means tream media wants you to think is a

1343
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:48,479
Speaker 9: horrible profession. And nobody respects you that they spit on

1344
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 9: you for being a top.

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01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:50,720
Speaker 2: We get to share.

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01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 9: Weell to do it anyway because now more than ever

1347
01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 9: both it is fixing to get interesting. I think it

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01:19:57,040 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 9: would be an appropriate term as we move forward and

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01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 9: we begin to undergo terrors, threats, Human sex trafficking is

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01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 9: still there. The cartels are not happy about losing one

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01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 9: hundred billion dollars a year. Is what we shut down

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01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 9: from them when we close the borders. So all this

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01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:20,720
Speaker 9: is trying to move to get us back to the

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01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:25,400
Speaker 9: way it used to be. Let criminals dominate, open the borders,

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01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:27,879
Speaker 9: but let the America collapse.

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Speaker 6: We're not going to do it.

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01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:29,719
Speaker 2: Folks.

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01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 9: If you want to make sure your kids and grandkids

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01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:36,240
Speaker 9: have something to inherit a country to live and it's free,

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01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 9: you're going to have to step up to the plate

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01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:39,840
Speaker 9: now because we will not get a second chance.

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01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 1: We're going to need all the help we can get

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01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:48,599
Speaker 1: as America is at war and the war is coming here,

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01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:52,760
Speaker 1: if it's not already here, through these terracells already here

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01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:55,760
Speaker 1: and the attacks that we have seen just in the

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Speaker 1: few short days.

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Speaker 2: Of the last week.

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Speaker 5: Michael, Lets, that's just a tip of the iceberg.

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Speaker 1: God bless you for your time, and God bless you

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01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:08,040
Speaker 1: for what you're doing for our first responders in law enforcement,

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Speaker 1: and people can find out more investusa dot org, a nonprofit.

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01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:17,760
Speaker 1: Thank you that's providing this protection for the people who

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01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:20,080
Speaker 1: are sworn to protect us.

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Speaker 2: Michael, Lets, thank you very much. It's the Nightcap and

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Speaker 2: it continues.

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01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:28,240
Speaker 1: Tonight's Nightcap, an hour of sports for the out of sorts,

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01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 1: and it could not be any better than my friend

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01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:35,080
Speaker 1: Andy Furman to lead us off. The fur Ball is

1379
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 1: back with a vengeance, just like Empire strikes back in

1380
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:43,559
Speaker 1: the Star Wars series is he is my Jedi Knight.

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01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 1: He is the one who's going to defeat the evil Empire,

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01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 1: and he's going to do it all in the space

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01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:52,639
Speaker 1: of about a twenty minute phone call starting right now.

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Speaker 7: Hello, fur Ball, how you doing. I missed you last week,

1385
01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 7: but I don't think anybody's still up at this hour,

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01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:01,240
Speaker 7: this weird hour to hear this. But that's fine. You

1387
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:03,120
Speaker 7: know we'll talk and that's that's good. Well, you know

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01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:04,439
Speaker 7: they'll miss it.

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01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:06,640
Speaker 2: They were up to hear me after the State of

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01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 2: the Union address and I missed that.

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01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 7: True, you know it's true.

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01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:13,719
Speaker 1: And I thought maybe the war would keep us from talking.

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01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 1: But you know what, we've had enough war talk today,

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01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 1: so we needed something else. We needed something a little

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01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:21,759
Speaker 1: bit different than our diet.

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01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 7: So what you say, you need comic relief, that's your need, Well,

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01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:29,160
Speaker 7: comic relief. Okay, be funny then, okay, no, no, I

1398
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 7: got something here that I think we need to share about.

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01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 7: This is unbelievable to you, but the NFL Players Association,

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01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:37,720
Speaker 7: they had a report card survey and it got leaked out,

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01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:39,439
Speaker 7: you know, and I'm sure I wanted it to get

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01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:41,360
Speaker 7: leaked out so owners could see it. Maybe they've got

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01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 7: some change. But to Miami Dolphins finished first and the

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01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:46,560
Speaker 7: Pittsburgh steel has finished last. But let's check on the

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01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 7: Cincinati Bengals for a second. And you look at the

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01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:52,360
Speaker 7: Bengals situation and the different categories that they have, food

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01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:58,160
Speaker 7: and dining F minus, travel C minus. Nutrition is dietitian F.

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01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 7: I mean, it's it's amazing, really is. But as far

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01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 7: as the coaching situations, look the training staff A strength,

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01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:09,280
Speaker 7: coaches A position coaches B minus, Offensive coordinator A minus.

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01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:12,360
Speaker 7: This is good defensive coordinat B plus special to his

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01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:16,719
Speaker 7: coordinator B plus. Head coach Zach Taylor A minus.

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01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:21,639
Speaker 1: Like that, How in the world is Zach Taylor getting

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01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:23,200
Speaker 1: an ane?

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01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 7: You know? And I question it as soon as I

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01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 7: saw that, because you look at the one lost record

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01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:29,600
Speaker 7: and I thought to my buddy Bucky Brooks yesterday of

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01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:32,200
Speaker 7: Fox Sports, and he works for Jacksonville. He's kind of

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01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:34,560
Speaker 7: a scout for him as well, and he says, you know,

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01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:36,960
Speaker 7: the players love him. You know, he gets along wall

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01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:38,600
Speaker 7: with the plays. He could relate to the players, and

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01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:41,639
Speaker 7: you know, he's been kind of hard hit with injuries

1423
01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:44,280
Speaker 7: and bad luck and some bad players. Let's face it,

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01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:46,759
Speaker 7: you know, really you're only as good as your players,

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01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:48,920
Speaker 7: and in the National Football League, you're only as good

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01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:51,679
Speaker 7: as your quarterback. And certainly when the quarterback's not healthy,

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01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:54,240
Speaker 7: you're not going to be good. That's the problem. But

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01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:57,479
Speaker 7: these players love him, they rally around him, they respect them,

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01:23:57,479 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 7: and they just love Zach Taylor. That's great. I think

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01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:00,639
Speaker 7: is a good guy.

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01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 6: He really is.

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Speaker 7: But I was shocked with the Pittsburgh Steelers. I really wasn't,

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01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:06,600
Speaker 7: you know. The field situation they gave for that, And

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01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:09,519
Speaker 7: I understand why in Pittsburgh my high school and college

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01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 7: games on Saturday, the fields all torn up.

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Speaker 1: On the field is terrible. Andy it has, it has.

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Speaker 1: Uh everybody knows that that the field of Pittsburgh is awful.

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01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 7: Every no, there's no doubt. I just wanted to check

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01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:24,880
Speaker 7: that out with you. I thought you'd be interested in that.

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01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 7: And it's funny how it gets leaked out, leaked out, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, it's funny really the Miami Dolphins and.

1442
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:32,559
Speaker 7: The radio business, how what cards.

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01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:35,680
Speaker 1: How come the Miami Dolphins finished first. I don't I

1444
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 1: don't quite understand that.

1445
01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:39,439
Speaker 7: I don't understand it either, I really don't. I mean,

1446
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:41,640
Speaker 7: I guess they I think, you know what. I think

1447
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 7: it might be players just love playing in that climate.

1448
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:47,160
Speaker 7: They just love playing in Miami. They're playing Green Bay

1449
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 7: and the cold. They love playing in Miami.

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01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:52,320
Speaker 1: Oh, so why not these are the NFL players giving

1451
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:56,479
Speaker 1: the report card teams. Oh, I didn't understand. I thought

1452
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:59,000
Speaker 1: maybe the NFL was rating each franchise.

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Speaker 7: No, the NFL doesn't want this release because it creates

1454
01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:05,439
Speaker 7: tension between ownership and players. And you know, there's demands

1455
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:07,639
Speaker 7: on there because basically, if the players have their way,

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01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 7: every field would be natural turf, be natural grass. The

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01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 7: owners don't want to do that because it costs too

1458
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 7: much money. And certainly a lot of these stadiums in

1459
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:16,680
Speaker 7: the National Football League they use for concerts. So when

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01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 7: they reel in a concert, the grass gets ripped up,

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01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:21,640
Speaker 7: torn up, they got to replace it. It costs a

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Speaker 7: lot of money, so they didn't want to do it.

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Speaker 6: Boy, how they do.

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Speaker 8: I guess if you're an NFL player and you're a

1465
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 8: free agent, you don't want to go to Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: They're dead last in players satisfaction according to this you.

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01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:36,120
Speaker 7: Know what, it's the report club. But when the check comes,

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01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:38,599
Speaker 7: they'll go and they'll suck it up and they'll go there. Really,

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Speaker 7: so we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 7: It's funny because the National Football League really and truly

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Speaker 7: is heads and shoulders above all the other leagues. I mean,

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01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 7: we talk about sports and sports interest and popularity in

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01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 7: our country. I would have to say National Football League

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01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:54,120
Speaker 7: is won, and maybe college football is one a. And

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Speaker 7: the National Football League is taking a close look now

1477
01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:59,280
Speaker 7: at the United Football League, which gets on the way

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01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:01,360
Speaker 7: next month, and the first game is going to be

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Speaker 7: the Birmingham Alabama Stallions and the Louisville Kings. And in

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Speaker 7: that game, the NFL, the UFL that is, is introducing

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01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:11,479
Speaker 7: a couple of new rules, and maybe the NFL may

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01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:15,120
Speaker 7: consider these rules. Get this, field goals longer than sixty

1483
01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:18,760
Speaker 7: yards will be worth four points in set of three.

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01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:21,479
Speaker 7: And that's great because now the biggest will be that

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01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:24,280
Speaker 7: the four point field goal suddenly a teena's truly made

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01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 7: by three points in the final minute. They could actually

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01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:29,640
Speaker 7: win the single game without a drive by getting a

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01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 7: field goal maybe really great.

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Speaker 1: It's going to change the betting lines too. That's the

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01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:37,320
Speaker 1: big thing, that's the huge part of that equation. But

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01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:41,200
Speaker 1: I wonder because Cincinnati, I mean, they got all those

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01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 1: good marks for training and for the coaching staff and

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01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 1: the like, but they got terrible marks for food and travel.

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Speaker 2: And what does that say about the franchise?

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Speaker 7: Andy, Yeah, I questioned that too, because I thought that

1496
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:58,840
Speaker 7: all the teams travel charter. But obviously there are certain situations.

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01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:01,360
Speaker 7: I guess maybe it's and they got off the plane,

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01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:04,759
Speaker 7: maybe the buses aren't ready to transport them to the hotels,

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Speaker 7: you know, just coordination wise, I don't know, or maybe

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Speaker 7: the kind of hotels that they stay in. I don't

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01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:13,000
Speaker 7: know that. I don't know, but it was interesting to me.

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01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:16,719
Speaker 7: But going back to the full point field goal, last

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01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:20,960
Speaker 7: year there were a record twelve field goals made of

1504
01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:25,360
Speaker 7: sixty plus yards, more than every season combined until the

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01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:28,160
Speaker 7: year twenty twelve. That's pretty big. And I found out also,

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01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 7: I guess you heard that this as well, that they

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01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:31,880
Speaker 7: use a different ball they keep the field goals. You know,

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01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:35,400
Speaker 7: there's a different ball. I mean, certainly there's a strength factor.

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01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 7: I think the kickers are a lot stronger now than

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01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 7: they were years ago, but there's a lighter ball that

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01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:43,760
Speaker 7: they use for field goals because, look, the NFL is

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01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:46,280
Speaker 7: smart enough to realize what are people like. They like points,

1513
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:49,040
Speaker 7: they like scoring. As good as the Super Bowl was

1514
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:51,879
Speaker 7: this year with two great teams, it was a defensive

1515
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:55,000
Speaker 7: struggle and it was somewhat slow. I hate to use

1516
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:57,839
Speaker 7: the term boring. It wasn't boring, but it wasn't exciting

1517
01:27:57,920 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 7: because it weren't a lot of points scored.

1518
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:00,680
Speaker 2: Who had the.

1519
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:03,960
Speaker 8: Longest field goal in the league for years? Who wasn't

1520
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:07,120
Speaker 8: the sixty three yarder that got that record? Was it

1521
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:07,880
Speaker 8: Jack Elam?

1522
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:12,240
Speaker 7: I don't know about that guy in the Browns years ago, but.

1523
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:13,320
Speaker 2: Now it was a guy in Denver.

1524
01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:15,200
Speaker 7: I think maybe so.

1525
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:18,800
Speaker 1: Had had the longest commonplace now and it was like

1526
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:21,280
Speaker 1: it was sixty three yards and that was amazing that

1527
01:28:21,400 --> 01:28:24,240
Speaker 1: he could kick the ball sixty three yards through the uprights.

1528
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:26,720
Speaker 1: And now it seems like, as you just mentioned, there

1529
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 1: were twelve of sixty plus last year, and you see

1530
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:33,680
Speaker 1: these guys in warm ups and they're they're getting them

1531
01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:36,960
Speaker 1: through the uprights at seventy yards, right, I.

1532
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:38,840
Speaker 7: Think I think the four point thing is gonna be great.

1533
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:39,200
Speaker 2: You know.

1534
01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:41,639
Speaker 7: The only thing is that I'm kind of a statistical nut,

1535
01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:44,720
Speaker 7: and you know, when years come by and like you know,

1536
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:47,360
Speaker 7: years from now, when they look at records and points

1537
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:49,720
Speaker 7: scored and kickers and how many points they scored, they

1538
01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 7: don't need to, as I say it, to put an

1539
01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:53,360
Speaker 7: asterisk next to him when they had the four point deal.

1540
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:55,680
Speaker 7: I mean, it's going to happen eventually, not this year,

1541
01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 7: but Pauly in the twenty seventh season, they would do it.

1542
01:28:58,120 --> 01:29:00,479
Speaker 7: They would test it out in the UFL works, they'll

1543
01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:03,080
Speaker 7: move to the NFL in twenty seven. But still in

1544
01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:05,360
Speaker 7: all like you know, back in the day, when Jimmy

1545
01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 7: Brown would rush for one thousand yards in a twelve game,

1546
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:10,680
Speaker 7: fourteen game season, that was a big deal. And they

1547
01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:13,719
Speaker 7: still think that a thousand yards right now is the benchmark.

1548
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:16,920
Speaker 7: And it's not. They play seventeen games. It's a different animal.

1549
01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:19,920
Speaker 7: One thousand yards and seventeen games is different than a

1550
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:23,240
Speaker 7: thousand yards and fourteen games or twelve games when Jimmy

1551
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:25,400
Speaker 7: Brown played football. And no one seems to know that.

1552
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:27,519
Speaker 7: Kids growing up all of the game, you know, they're

1553
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:29,360
Speaker 7: looking at it. Wow, he's got a thousand yards. You

1554
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 7: go back and look at history and look at the

1555
01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:33,439
Speaker 7: history of the league. But again, I don't think people

1556
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:36,080
Speaker 7: care about that. What people care about, honestly is wins

1557
01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:37,519
Speaker 7: and losses. That's all they care about.

1558
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, of course that's what it means that winning

1559
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:42,920
Speaker 1: isn't winning isn't everything.

1560
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:45,720
Speaker 2: It's the only thing. I think to you, I know,

1561
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 2: I know, Vince Lombardi, when I hear it, there you go, really, so,

1562
01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:52,160
Speaker 2: I mean, what did you think about?

1563
01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:56,719
Speaker 1: I know a lot of Bengals fans are excited about

1564
01:29:56,800 --> 01:29:59,439
Speaker 1: the addition to the offensive line.

1565
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:02,920
Speaker 2: They just bounced the resigning Dalton Riser boys.

1566
01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:05,000
Speaker 7: He happy to be here. I mean, he went off

1567
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:07,840
Speaker 7: about twenty five minutes on a news conference and it

1568
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:09,720
Speaker 7: was today, and just talked about how much he loves

1569
01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:12,360
Speaker 7: the players, love being here, loves Zach Taylor. One of

1570
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:14,200
Speaker 7: the reason why he came back here was Zach Taylor.

1571
01:30:15,320 --> 01:30:19,280
Speaker 7: He loves, you know, take Carris, Orlando Brown. He just

1572
01:30:19,479 --> 01:30:22,040
Speaker 7: was oodle. He said, my wife and I came back.

1573
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:23,800
Speaker 7: He even mentioned he loved coming back here because of

1574
01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:26,920
Speaker 7: Jeff Ruby's restaurant. I mean, this guy is Cincinnati in

1575
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:28,760
Speaker 7: and out. You love to have a guy like that

1576
01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:30,720
Speaker 7: it's going to help you on the offensive line, but

1577
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:33,280
Speaker 7: just loves being here. That's great. I just I love

1578
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:34,840
Speaker 7: to hear that it was well, it was one of theful.

1579
01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:37,479
Speaker 1: It was Tom Dempsey who held the NFL record for

1580
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:40,599
Speaker 1: the longest field goal for forty three years.

1581
01:30:41,040 --> 01:30:43,280
Speaker 7: He didn't had that wooden foot he had.

1582
01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:46,839
Speaker 1: He had a sixty three yoot in November of nineteen

1583
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:49,880
Speaker 1: seventy for the New Orleans Saints, and he did he

1584
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:53,760
Speaker 1: had a club foot. And Matt Prater broke it with

1585
01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:56,840
Speaker 1: a sixty four yarder and twenty thirteen, So he has

1586
01:30:57,040 --> 01:30:58,360
Speaker 1: record seventy.

1587
01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:02,160
Speaker 7: Foot with a hammer. I'm saying with a sledgehammer. I mean,

1588
01:31:02,160 --> 01:31:04,200
Speaker 7: it's a little bit of an advantage, you think, But.

1589
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:06,559
Speaker 2: Nobody came close for all those years.

1590
01:31:06,640 --> 01:31:09,439
Speaker 7: Andy Well the ball change, I mean they practiced it obviously.

1591
01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:12,719
Speaker 7: I mean there's certainly kickers are not getting drafted higher

1592
01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:15,400
Speaker 7: because they are a big offensive weapon and they're stronger,

1593
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:18,800
Speaker 7: they're better. The more soccer players right now, the soccer

1594
01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:21,240
Speaker 7: players are looking for big money to get big money

1595
01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:23,439
Speaker 7: playing in the NFL as a kicker, more so than

1596
01:31:23,479 --> 01:31:24,679
Speaker 7: maybe playing in the MLS.

1597
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:25,439
Speaker 1: I'm sure.

1598
01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:26,600
Speaker 6: So there you go.

1599
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:29,920
Speaker 7: That's created a niche obviously for football.

1600
01:31:30,479 --> 01:31:34,320
Speaker 1: And the other thing is is that these longer field

1601
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:40,240
Speaker 1: goals totally changed the offensive thinking of a coach. I mean,

1602
01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:43,920
Speaker 1: you may get the ball on the forty yard line,

1603
01:31:44,160 --> 01:31:46,200
Speaker 1: your own forty yard line at the end of the game,

1604
01:31:47,880 --> 01:31:51,479
Speaker 1: and instead, excuse me, instead of trying to get the

1605
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:54,240
Speaker 1: ball to the fifty or whatever he said, Dad, line

1606
01:31:54,280 --> 01:31:55,639
Speaker 1: them up, let's end it right.

1607
01:31:55,600 --> 01:32:00,200
Speaker 7: Now, instead of punting. Really exactly, speaking of that, the

1608
01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:03,720
Speaker 7: UFL is going for another different change in the rules. Uh, no,

1609
01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:07,960
Speaker 7: punts will be allowed outside the fifty yard line during

1610
01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:11,200
Speaker 7: most of the game, and the truth the tush push

1611
01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:14,800
Speaker 7: will be eliminated. Okay, so this means right now that

1612
01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:19,240
Speaker 7: once a UFL team crosses the fifty yard line, it

1613
01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:22,280
Speaker 7: will no longer be allowed to punt on that possession,

1614
01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:26,600
Speaker 7: even if a penalty or loss of yardage sends the

1615
01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:30,080
Speaker 7: offense back to its own territory. The only exception is

1616
01:32:30,120 --> 01:32:31,680
Speaker 7: in the final two minutes of each half. So this

1617
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:35,479
Speaker 7: is really an offensive minded rule to score more points

1618
01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:36,040
Speaker 7: than I like that.

1619
01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:40,360
Speaker 2: But they're they're eliminating they're eliminating the toush push though.

1620
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:43,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I think that I had no problem with

1621
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:46,240
Speaker 7: that and the National Football they did. You know, all

1622
01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:48,559
Speaker 7: you need is what the Philadelphia Eagles had a couple

1623
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:50,640
Speaker 7: of three hundred plus guys on the offensive line, you

1624
01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:52,760
Speaker 7: could get the tush push. And the only reason the

1625
01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:55,920
Speaker 7: other clubs in the National Football League balked about that,

1626
01:32:56,320 --> 01:32:58,840
Speaker 7: you know why, because they couldn't stop it. That's why.

1627
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:04,759
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, and before this this phenomenon started happening

1628
01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:07,719
Speaker 1: and teams started using it, toush push had a totally

1629
01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:11,000
Speaker 1: different connotation that I'm not even going to get into now, because.

1630
01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:12,639
Speaker 7: Why do you have to go down that road? Why

1631
01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:13,799
Speaker 7: are you away that traded?

1632
01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:14,759
Speaker 6: I don't understand.

1633
01:33:15,120 --> 01:33:17,080
Speaker 7: I understand it's late at night, but still you have

1634
01:33:17,120 --> 01:33:18,920
Speaker 7: to go to the ex route. I just don't have

1635
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:19,360
Speaker 7: to do that.

1636
01:33:19,880 --> 01:33:22,080
Speaker 2: I did not do anything. I'm just saying it had

1637
01:33:22,280 --> 01:33:23,840
Speaker 2: a different connotation.

1638
01:33:23,560 --> 01:33:27,799
Speaker 7: Before your mind, like to get out of the gutter. Please,

1639
01:33:28,120 --> 01:33:29,320
Speaker 7: what's better than that? What?

1640
01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:32,120
Speaker 2: What do you see for the the n cua A tournament.

1641
01:33:32,160 --> 01:33:35,040
Speaker 2: Do you think? Uh, either either Xavier or you see

1642
01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:37,000
Speaker 2: getting in I don't see that to you.

1643
01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:40,880
Speaker 7: You know, It's funny, JOELNARTI had h you see as

1644
01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:43,960
Speaker 7: a possibility, and here they won five of the ls

1645
01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:47,680
Speaker 7: six and a big win against Kansas and Iowa State

1646
01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:50,760
Speaker 7: was was a big win. But they gotta they gotta win.

1647
01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:54,640
Speaker 7: They got to be Brigham Young. That's bolthough Brigham Young

1648
01:33:54,680 --> 01:33:56,840
Speaker 7: has I lost five of the LS six, Uh, the

1649
01:33:57,240 --> 01:34:00,160
Speaker 7: big players gone. He's hurt. So I think the is

1650
01:34:00,200 --> 01:34:03,000
Speaker 7: a chance. You know, certainly, if they win the conference tournament,

1651
01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:05,679
Speaker 7: they'll get in. But I think that if they could

1652
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:08,840
Speaker 7: get to the semi finals of the conference tournament, they'll

1653
01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:11,839
Speaker 7: get in. I really believe really. Now, now, West Virginia

1654
01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:15,760
Speaker 7: is very similar, similar in records, so you see, they

1655
01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:17,599
Speaker 7: got a tough road ahead as well. So you gotta

1656
01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:20,120
Speaker 7: hope that West Virginia loses a couple and gets bounced

1657
01:34:20,160 --> 01:34:22,679
Speaker 7: out of the tournament early and then you see it squeeze,

1658
01:34:22,680 --> 01:34:24,600
Speaker 7: It'll be great. I'd love to see it, you know,

1659
01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:27,160
Speaker 7: it would really be a shame and this could happen,

1660
01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:29,479
Speaker 7: and I don't want to see it happen. You see,

1661
01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:32,639
Speaker 7: gets into the tournament with kind of a five hundred

1662
01:34:32,840 --> 01:34:36,120
Speaker 7: or just a little above five hundred record, and Miami

1663
01:34:36,360 --> 01:34:38,880
Speaker 7: of Ohio and I'll call Miami University no longer Miami

1664
01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:43,320
Speaker 7: of Ohio. Miami University loses a game in the tournament,

1665
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:45,800
Speaker 7: in the Mid American Conference tournament, and they don't get

1666
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:49,280
Speaker 7: in at all, and that could happen. That could very well.

1667
01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:51,080
Speaker 2: Well, it's happened in the past.

1668
01:34:51,160 --> 01:34:55,599
Speaker 1: Andy, I think that there's been such notoriety around this team,

1669
01:34:55,800 --> 01:34:58,080
Speaker 1: and if they go undefeated in the regular season, I

1670
01:34:58,200 --> 01:34:59,120
Speaker 1: think they're gonna get in.

1671
01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:00,559
Speaker 6: Because here's the thing.

1672
01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:02,920
Speaker 7: The lucky team in the Middle American Conference is Akron

1673
01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:05,840
Speaker 7: because Akron only has one loss, and Aclan's really going

1674
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:08,000
Speaker 7: under the radar, and a Acrons should meet Miami in

1675
01:35:08,040 --> 01:35:11,040
Speaker 7: the finals and beat Miami. Miami ain't going I just

1676
01:35:11,080 --> 01:35:13,280
Speaker 7: don't think. But here's the thing. Here's the question. Do

1677
01:35:13,400 --> 01:35:16,000
Speaker 7: you want the sixty four best teams in the country

1678
01:35:16,439 --> 01:35:19,800
Speaker 7: or do you want conference champions? I mean, what is

1679
01:35:19,880 --> 01:35:22,080
Speaker 7: this tournament? Really? Is it the sixty fourth best?

1680
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:22,320
Speaker 6: Now?

1681
01:35:22,400 --> 01:35:24,200
Speaker 7: Honestly, I love Miami. I love what they've done. I

1682
01:35:24,240 --> 01:35:26,680
Speaker 7: love the excitement. They're like the Cinderella team of the year.

1683
01:35:26,800 --> 01:35:29,040
Speaker 7: But are they one of the sixty four best teams

1684
01:35:29,080 --> 01:35:30,960
Speaker 7: in the country. I watched them the other night. They

1685
01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:34,240
Speaker 7: struggled against Western Michigan. They were lucky to be Western Michigan.

1686
01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:38,120
Speaker 7: Western Michigan was ten and eighteen they're terrible. So I

1687
01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:41,559
Speaker 7: love watching them play, but I don't think they're one

1688
01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:43,720
Speaker 7: of the sixty four best. But that's not for me

1689
01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:46,160
Speaker 7: to judge. I mean, maybe they're taking the sixty fourth best.

1690
01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:49,040
Speaker 7: Maybe they're gonna take Miami because of the interest in Miami.

1691
01:35:49,240 --> 01:35:51,800
Speaker 1: Well it's the sixty eight best now, Andy, because they

1692
01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:55,680
Speaker 1: got too stupid play in You know what, maybe they

1693
01:35:55,880 --> 01:36:02,000
Speaker 1: just expand the tournament so it's starts maybe a week earlier.

1694
01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:06,120
Speaker 7: And you just you know, everybody gets a one. No,

1695
01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:08,560
Speaker 7: everybody in life gets a second chance, and you know what,

1696
01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:11,360
Speaker 7: in basketball, you know, you don't deserve a second chance.

1697
01:36:11,439 --> 01:36:11,680
Speaker 2: You win.

1698
01:36:11,840 --> 01:36:13,679
Speaker 7: That's what I have, wins and loss, and they keep score.

1699
01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:16,839
Speaker 7: Here's the deal. Do you want to see the Horizon

1700
01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:19,320
Speaker 7: LEA For example, Northern University is in there. They lost

1701
01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:22,280
Speaker 7: the heartbreaker yesterday to Wright State. They're gonna take one

1702
01:36:22,320 --> 01:36:24,960
Speaker 7: team out of that conference. However, if the team that

1703
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:29,160
Speaker 7: wins that Horizon League tournament has a losing record or

1704
01:36:29,240 --> 01:36:32,880
Speaker 7: just a poor record, or some five hundred record, they're

1705
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:35,320
Speaker 7: gonna go to the tournament. And a team with a

1706
01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:38,160
Speaker 7: tremendous record in that league, whoever it may be Right

1707
01:36:38,240 --> 01:36:40,679
Speaker 7: State or whatever, you're not going to go. It's not fair.

1708
01:36:41,040 --> 01:36:43,839
Speaker 7: Why are you opening it up to everybody's It stinks

1709
01:36:43,880 --> 01:36:46,600
Speaker 7: the way it is now with conference tournaments, forget it.

1710
01:36:47,400 --> 01:36:49,920
Speaker 7: I don't understand what the conference tournament with. They say

1711
01:36:49,960 --> 01:36:52,320
Speaker 7: it's for money. I watched these conference tournaments on TV.

1712
01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:53,679
Speaker 7: You know what, no one's there.

1713
01:36:55,120 --> 01:36:58,880
Speaker 1: It's all andy. It is all TV money. It's all

1714
01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:00,080
Speaker 1: TV money when you get.

1715
01:37:04,240 --> 01:37:04,519
Speaker 2: Listen.

1716
01:37:04,760 --> 01:37:09,439
Speaker 1: The reason we air these basketball games, yeah, their hometown teams,

1717
01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:13,000
Speaker 1: you see Xavier, But the reason we air them is

1718
01:37:13,120 --> 01:37:16,479
Speaker 1: not because the listenership is sky high except for the

1719
01:37:16,560 --> 01:37:19,680
Speaker 1: alumni and UH and the players families.

1720
01:37:20,360 --> 01:37:22,320
Speaker 2: It's because of the money that they.

1721
01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:25,160
Speaker 7: I disagree because I don't know how the contracts are

1722
01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:27,200
Speaker 7: written now. I don't know if you see and or

1723
01:37:27,320 --> 01:37:32,200
Speaker 7: Xavier sell the package themselves. You know, the restaurant on

1724
01:37:32,240 --> 01:37:34,840
Speaker 7: the radio and you and the university and the wl

1725
01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:37,160
Speaker 7: W doesn't make much money, but they only get a couple.

1726
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:42,160
Speaker 2: Of the Reds. The Reds draw though the Reds drawing audience.

1727
01:37:42,200 --> 01:37:46,560
Speaker 7: Okay, but especially now, okay, from what I understand with

1728
01:37:46,680 --> 01:37:49,000
Speaker 7: the Reds baseball on w W radio, maybe the public

1729
01:37:49,040 --> 01:37:51,559
Speaker 7: doesn't understand this. I think the Reds by the time

1730
01:37:52,200 --> 01:37:55,560
Speaker 7: from w W radio and and and w W is

1731
01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:58,080
Speaker 7: permitted maybe one or two pre a post.

1732
01:37:57,840 --> 01:38:00,800
Speaker 2: Game spots something like that. I'm not in sales. I

1733
01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:01,200
Speaker 2: don't know.

1734
01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:04,200
Speaker 7: Okay, So the big money is sold by the reds.

1735
01:38:04,520 --> 01:38:07,160
Speaker 7: Red sell it and they recoup that money by selling

1736
01:38:07,520 --> 01:38:10,240
Speaker 7: commercials in and around the game. Now, I don't know

1737
01:38:10,240 --> 01:38:11,920
Speaker 7: if Xavier and you Seed do that as well.

1738
01:38:12,920 --> 01:38:17,639
Speaker 1: But the TV money for the conference tournaments is huge.

1739
01:38:18,200 --> 01:38:22,040
Speaker 1: All these all these these uh these networks have huge

1740
01:38:22,160 --> 01:38:26,080
Speaker 1: contracts with these conferences and they, you know, they get

1741
01:38:26,160 --> 01:38:29,000
Speaker 1: paid all kinds of money to air these games. Just

1742
01:38:29,200 --> 01:38:32,759
Speaker 1: like the stupid Bowl games against six and six teams

1743
01:38:33,080 --> 01:38:34,200
Speaker 1: in somewhere in New.

1744
01:38:35,040 --> 01:38:36,960
Speaker 7: New York's are going away pretty soon. Well, they would

1745
01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:39,599
Speaker 7: expand the college football playoffs in a year or two,

1746
01:38:40,240 --> 01:38:42,360
Speaker 7: like sixteen teams or whatever it may be. And once

1747
01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:43,880
Speaker 7: they do that, forget about bowl games.

1748
01:38:43,920 --> 01:38:47,519
Speaker 1: Well, you know what about expanding the college basketball tournament.

1749
01:38:47,560 --> 01:38:48,240
Speaker 1: They keep doing it.

1750
01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:51,519
Speaker 2: It used to be it used to be thirty two teams,

1751
01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:53,519
Speaker 2: it used to be sixteen teams.

1752
01:38:53,840 --> 01:38:54,679
Speaker 7: It's enough now.

1753
01:38:56,760 --> 01:38:58,479
Speaker 2: Enough every school in there.

1754
01:38:58,640 --> 01:39:02,280
Speaker 7: You want to see schools like got Eastern Michigan in

1755
01:39:02,400 --> 01:39:05,600
Speaker 7: the in the NCAA turn. Why when's the incentive to

1756
01:39:05,720 --> 01:39:08,960
Speaker 7: playing hard during the year. Every game during the year

1757
01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:12,280
Speaker 7: means nothing. Look at the National Basketball Association. During the season,

1758
01:39:12,360 --> 01:39:14,760
Speaker 7: no one cares. They really don't care. Why the two

1759
01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:18,000
Speaker 7: busy watching football? So they get excited during the playoffs

1760
01:39:18,160 --> 01:39:20,200
Speaker 7: and the playoffs obviously the players play a little harder,

1761
01:39:20,320 --> 01:39:23,080
Speaker 7: but honestly, the regular season means nothing. All you want

1762
01:39:23,120 --> 01:39:25,360
Speaker 7: to do is go to the playoffs. They've killed it.

1763
01:39:26,680 --> 01:39:30,479
Speaker 1: People don't watch regular season NBA basketball, not because of

1764
01:39:30,520 --> 01:39:35,240
Speaker 1: the NFL andy because regular season NBA basketball stinks and

1765
01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:38,160
Speaker 1: nobody starts playing until the playoffs.

1766
01:39:37,920 --> 01:39:40,200
Speaker 7: No doubt about that. But also do people do watch

1767
01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:44,679
Speaker 7: regular season NBA in NBA cities because his interest? They're

1768
01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:47,719
Speaker 7: watching NBA in New York for the Knicks, from Boston

1769
01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:49,840
Speaker 7: for the Celtics, and LA for the Lakers. They don't

1770
01:39:49,840 --> 01:39:51,920
Speaker 7: watch it here because there's no team. I'm glad the

1771
01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:52,679
Speaker 7: team they bought.

1772
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:55,679
Speaker 1: I'm glad there's NBA in New York because it keeps

1773
01:39:55,760 --> 01:39:57,960
Speaker 1: some people inside the house and it keeps them from

1774
01:39:58,040 --> 01:39:58,840
Speaker 1: stabbing each other.

1775
01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:02,280
Speaker 7: It's great knowing you have this conception of people. Let

1776
01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:04,880
Speaker 7: me say a per capita, I think that downtown Cincinnati

1777
01:40:04,920 --> 01:40:07,360
Speaker 7: over the Rhine is worse than New York City. I'm

1778
01:40:07,400 --> 01:40:10,600
Speaker 7: just saying, and I have no statistics on that. I

1779
01:40:10,720 --> 01:40:13,960
Speaker 7: read rhyme in Cincinnati.

1780
01:40:13,680 --> 01:40:17,640
Speaker 2: From you're from Brooklyn. You're from Brooklyn, can't I am?

1781
01:40:17,840 --> 01:40:19,560
Speaker 7: That's New York City. I know.

1782
01:40:20,680 --> 01:40:24,479
Speaker 1: Well listen, uh, I I hope that you're staying inside

1783
01:40:24,479 --> 01:40:26,559
Speaker 1: the house tonight and not a threat to your neighbors.

1784
01:40:26,680 --> 01:40:27,559
Speaker 6: I never leave.

1785
01:40:28,120 --> 01:40:30,560
Speaker 7: I'm not loud right for I got a bracelet on

1786
01:40:30,640 --> 01:40:30,960
Speaker 7: my leg.

1787
01:40:31,439 --> 01:40:34,120
Speaker 2: I'll talk to you later. Thanks, I see good night.

1788
01:40:34,760 --> 01:40:36,120
Speaker 2: Just like Norm Charlton.

1789
01:40:36,439 --> 01:40:40,040
Speaker 1: Uh, don't don't call him Danny Graves though, Uh the

1790
01:40:40,160 --> 01:40:43,920
Speaker 1: sports commando, sports for the out of swords, putting the

1791
01:40:44,040 --> 01:40:47,960
Speaker 1: cap or the rap on this nightcap on this Monday evening,

1792
01:40:48,080 --> 01:40:51,240
Speaker 1: the one the only wild man Walker, And I promise

1793
01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:52,759
Speaker 1: I won't call you Danny Graves.

1794
01:40:54,240 --> 01:40:56,120
Speaker 8: Well, you've already called me that twice, so you got

1795
01:40:56,160 --> 01:40:57,720
Speaker 8: two strikes on you, mester.

1796
01:41:00,400 --> 01:41:04,000
Speaker 1: Beatle, you're out beatle juice, beatle juice, beatle juice.

1797
01:41:04,320 --> 01:41:04,760
Speaker 2: There you go.

1798
01:41:06,720 --> 01:41:10,880
Speaker 1: Oh man, So as our closer tonight, you're going to

1799
01:41:11,400 --> 01:41:14,920
Speaker 1: get us home and you're going to bring us a victory.

1800
01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:18,040
Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to I have full confidence as

1801
01:41:18,080 --> 01:41:20,559
Speaker 1: I hand you the ball on the mound wild Man.

1802
01:41:22,000 --> 01:41:24,479
Speaker 8: Well, let's talk first, Gary Jeff, because I know you're

1803
01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:26,240
Speaker 8: you know you're a you're a big music.

1804
01:41:26,080 --> 01:41:26,960
Speaker 2: Fan and whatnot.

1805
01:41:27,479 --> 01:41:29,800
Speaker 8: And I want to talk about the twenty twenty six

1806
01:41:30,680 --> 01:41:32,840
Speaker 8: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame nominees.

1807
01:41:32,920 --> 01:41:34,719
Speaker 2: Do talk about a freaking joke.

1808
01:41:34,960 --> 01:41:36,519
Speaker 8: I'm not going to run out all the names, but

1809
01:41:36,720 --> 01:41:41,240
Speaker 8: here are some of them in excess, Iron Maiden, shaw Day,

1810
01:41:42,000 --> 01:41:49,080
Speaker 8: Mariah Carey, Black Crows, Melissa Melissa Etheridge, Pink Luther, Van Dross,

1811
01:41:49,760 --> 01:41:53,560
Speaker 8: Phil Collins, and Billy Idol. Nothing says more when I

1812
01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:55,200
Speaker 8: think of rock and roll than.

1813
01:41:55,200 --> 01:41:58,120
Speaker 2: Mariah Carey char Day. How about that?

1814
01:42:00,200 --> 01:42:03,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, see this this all ended years ago when

1815
01:42:03,160 --> 01:42:05,040
Speaker 1: they put Madonna in wild Man.

1816
01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:09,519
Speaker 2: It's not Well and and Dolly Parton. It's not. It's

1817
01:42:09,640 --> 01:42:12,360
Speaker 2: not the rock and Roll Hall of Fame. You can't

1818
01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:15,599
Speaker 2: call it that now. So why don't they just change

1819
01:42:15,680 --> 01:42:17,880
Speaker 2: it to Music Hall of Fame and be done with it?

1820
01:42:18,160 --> 01:42:21,120
Speaker 2: The Pop Music Hall of Fame? I agree.

1821
01:42:21,479 --> 01:42:25,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, people aren't even gonna know what rock

1822
01:42:25,080 --> 01:42:27,559
Speaker 1: and roll is the way they're going in the next

1823
01:42:27,640 --> 01:42:30,479
Speaker 1: ten years, or if they can't define it. You know,

1824
01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:33,080
Speaker 1: these are the same people, wild man. They can't tell

1825
01:42:33,120 --> 01:42:35,240
Speaker 1: you the difference between a man and a woman. They

1826
01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:38,160
Speaker 1: can't tell the difference between rock and roll and and

1827
01:42:38,360 --> 01:42:43,200
Speaker 1: Mariah Carey. That's the point now, in Excess, I thought

1828
01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:45,640
Speaker 1: in Excess was a nice choice. I saw that, and

1829
01:42:45,720 --> 01:42:47,240
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, I kind of agree.

1830
01:42:47,439 --> 01:42:49,320
Speaker 2: There they were. I saw I saw that once.

1831
01:42:49,640 --> 01:42:52,759
Speaker 8: I saw that once at the Collis Sam people stood

1832
01:42:52,840 --> 01:42:54,680
Speaker 8: well the whole show, the whole time they were on it.

1833
01:42:55,720 --> 01:42:58,080
Speaker 1: And it was a rock and roll band of that era,

1834
01:42:58,320 --> 01:43:01,560
Speaker 1: of the eighties era, you know, perfect Michael Hutchins, and

1835
01:43:01,800 --> 01:43:04,880
Speaker 1: they just had that groove and they had that attitude,

1836
01:43:05,880 --> 01:43:09,599
Speaker 1: you know, all out, all's, all's to the wall, as

1837
01:43:09,640 --> 01:43:11,439
Speaker 1: I like to say Iron Maiden.

1838
01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:14,360
Speaker 2: Of course, that's a rock and roll that's a no.

1839
01:43:14,479 --> 01:43:17,040
Speaker 8: Brainer, man. I mean, they're still selling out wherever they go.

1840
01:43:17,360 --> 01:43:19,200
Speaker 8: I mean, I wish they would come here this year

1841
01:43:19,240 --> 01:43:21,960
Speaker 8: on their tour, but they're not. Let's Bruce Dickinson is.

1842
01:43:22,200 --> 01:43:23,200
Speaker 8: Bruce Dickinson is.

1843
01:43:23,200 --> 01:43:27,120
Speaker 2: A genius man. He's a he's a pilot. He flies

1844
01:43:27,200 --> 01:43:30,479
Speaker 2: his own jet jet airliner for God's sake. The guy's

1845
01:43:30,520 --> 01:43:31,000
Speaker 2: a genius.

1846
01:43:31,280 --> 01:43:33,960
Speaker 1: Let's let's go through a few more of the names here.

1847
01:43:34,080 --> 01:43:38,200
Speaker 1: Now you mentioned uh, Mariah Carey and Charde. Who else

1848
01:43:38,439 --> 01:43:41,479
Speaker 1: doesn't belong in the rock and Roll Hall of Fame?

1849
01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:44,400
Speaker 2: Wild Man? Well on this group here?

1850
01:43:44,760 --> 01:43:47,439
Speaker 8: Yeah to me, I already, I already voted. I voted

1851
01:43:47,479 --> 01:43:50,599
Speaker 8: for Iron Maiden, and I voted for Billy Idol.

1852
01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:50,680
Speaker 3: No.

1853
01:43:50,800 --> 01:43:53,120
Speaker 8: No, I voted for Iron Maiden, and I voted for

1854
01:43:53,200 --> 01:43:56,439
Speaker 8: Phil Collins because he Phil Collins, you know, was with Genesis.

1855
01:43:56,520 --> 01:43:58,960
Speaker 8: He went out on his own and was a star,

1856
01:43:59,360 --> 01:44:01,560
Speaker 8: had a number of hits. That's the only two I

1857
01:44:01,720 --> 01:44:05,880
Speaker 8: voted for. I didn't vote for INEXCESSU Pink Pink.

1858
01:44:06,000 --> 01:44:10,120
Speaker 2: Come on, man, she she rocks a little bit for

1859
01:44:10,240 --> 01:44:14,679
Speaker 2: a chick. I mean, I couldn't.

1860
01:44:14,680 --> 01:44:16,800
Speaker 8: I couldn't name one song she You know, she's very

1861
01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:19,519
Speaker 8: she's very cute. I mean, but that doesn't get it

1862
01:44:19,560 --> 01:44:20,840
Speaker 8: in the rock and rolls.

1863
01:44:21,400 --> 01:44:22,800
Speaker 2: She's very she's very cute.

1864
01:44:22,840 --> 01:44:24,559
Speaker 1: If you like that kind of thing, and you hung

1865
01:44:24,600 --> 01:44:26,560
Speaker 1: out at Annie's all those years, and you liked that

1866
01:44:26,760 --> 01:44:28,320
Speaker 1: kind of thing, what were you gonna say?

1867
01:44:29,320 --> 01:44:31,280
Speaker 8: You know, for years, I've always said, and I'll still

1868
01:44:31,360 --> 01:44:33,679
Speaker 8: say it, there is no Baseball Hall of Fame without

1869
01:44:33,720 --> 01:44:36,000
Speaker 8: p Rose. Well, there's no rock and Roll Hall of

1870
01:44:36,120 --> 01:44:39,280
Speaker 8: Fame without the Jake Isles band. How they keep getting

1871
01:44:39,360 --> 01:44:42,439
Speaker 8: overlooked is a sin along with Motley Crue. That's just

1872
01:44:42,720 --> 01:44:44,960
Speaker 8: that's a crying shan. You know, there isn't a person,

1873
01:44:45,280 --> 01:44:47,880
Speaker 8: There isn't a person that I know, Gary Jeff, that

1874
01:44:48,000 --> 01:44:50,640
Speaker 8: went to a Jake Isles concert and didn't come away like,

1875
01:44:51,080 --> 01:44:52,760
Speaker 8: my god, what a show.

1876
01:44:53,040 --> 01:44:55,479
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of bands in this world,

1877
01:44:55,479 --> 01:44:56,439
Speaker 2: and you'll agree with me on this.

1878
01:44:57,080 --> 01:44:59,600
Speaker 8: You know, they may be great in the studio, but

1879
01:44:59,720 --> 01:45:03,559
Speaker 8: they the damn on the stage, the average was totally

1880
01:45:03,600 --> 01:45:06,160
Speaker 8: almost Jick Giles band does rock the house.

1881
01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:08,519
Speaker 1: Let me give you another example, and the music professor

1882
01:45:08,600 --> 01:45:11,800
Speaker 1: Tim Lebarbara pointed this out just a few weeks back.

1883
01:45:12,439 --> 01:45:14,640
Speaker 1: A group that damn well ought to be in the

1884
01:45:14,800 --> 01:45:17,560
Speaker 1: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame that is not is

1885
01:45:17,760 --> 01:45:18,720
Speaker 1: Three Dog Night.

1886
01:45:19,080 --> 01:45:20,040
Speaker 2: They were fantastic.

1887
01:45:20,479 --> 01:45:23,800
Speaker 1: They were fantastic in the studio, and they they were

1888
01:45:23,840 --> 01:45:26,800
Speaker 1: great touring live. I mean, you know, the three three

1889
01:45:26,840 --> 01:45:30,960
Speaker 1: headed lead singer Hydra of Free Dog Night definitely needs

1890
01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:34,600
Speaker 1: to be enshrined in the Holland Halls in Cleveland.

1891
01:45:34,720 --> 01:45:37,479
Speaker 8: Wild Man I was a huge Three Dog Knights fan

1892
01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:40,400
Speaker 8: back in the seventies. I had every LP I saw him.

1893
01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:43,320
Speaker 8: I saw him at the Cincinnati Gardens. That Fat Floyd

1894
01:45:43,439 --> 01:45:46,360
Speaker 8: Snead God rest of Soul, the drummer. He got me

1895
01:45:46,400 --> 01:45:47,679
Speaker 8: at my buddy free tickets.

1896
01:45:47,840 --> 01:45:51,760
Speaker 2: Believe that? How about that Jeremiah was a bullfrog wild Man,

1897
01:45:52,360 --> 01:45:54,880
Speaker 2: That's right. One is the loneliest number.

1898
01:45:55,160 --> 01:45:59,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely. I mean even even something that's like

1899
01:45:59,479 --> 01:46:03,519
Speaker 1: not a huge shit like Brickyard Blues is just great stuff.

1900
01:46:03,840 --> 01:46:04,040
Speaker 7: Man.

1901
01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:07,439
Speaker 1: You celebrate, you know, you just go down the list

1902
01:46:07,520 --> 01:46:09,920
Speaker 1: of three Dog Night songs and say one of the

1903
01:46:10,640 --> 01:46:11,760
Speaker 1: oh yeah, well, one of.

1904
01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:13,640
Speaker 8: The best songs they ever did that doesn't get much

1905
01:46:13,680 --> 01:46:15,120
Speaker 8: airplay is try Little.

1906
01:46:14,960 --> 01:46:17,920
Speaker 2: Tenderness on Me, a very first album. Their version of

1907
01:46:18,040 --> 01:46:23,080
Speaker 2: that is unbelievable, isn't it. It's unreal many.

1908
01:46:23,200 --> 01:46:30,479
Speaker 1: Wild Man, wild Man, Yes, Eli's coming. Hide your Heart Girl,

1909
01:46:30,760 --> 01:46:35,200
Speaker 1: Hide your Heart Girl. Anyway, You're right on this rock

1910
01:46:35,240 --> 01:46:37,960
Speaker 1: and roll Hall of Fame thing. They need to take this.

1911
01:46:38,520 --> 01:46:41,320
Speaker 1: The problem is they don't want to change the signage.

1912
01:46:41,400 --> 01:46:45,280
Speaker 1: It'll cost too much money to change to change the

1913
01:46:45,400 --> 01:46:48,800
Speaker 1: letter headed the signage to just the pop music Hall

1914
01:46:48,840 --> 01:46:49,160
Speaker 1: of Fame.

1915
01:46:49,280 --> 01:46:52,280
Speaker 2: It's it's ridiculous, it's just insane and stupid and just ignorant.

1916
01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:54,320
Speaker 2: It just makes me so damn mad. Hey, can I

1917
01:46:54,520 --> 01:46:55,840
Speaker 2: give a shout out her real quick?

1918
01:46:55,960 --> 01:46:56,160
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1919
01:46:56,920 --> 01:46:59,280
Speaker 8: To to my to the well, to my to my

1920
01:46:59,320 --> 01:47:03,240
Speaker 8: buddy's bowling team called the Misfits. On Thursday night, they

1921
01:47:03,520 --> 01:47:06,519
Speaker 8: won the league championship in the Western the school Men

1922
01:47:06,640 --> 01:47:10,799
Speaker 8: Bullying League, And those would be Lou LESCo, David Ulrich,

1923
01:47:11,439 --> 01:47:14,559
Speaker 8: Mike Vanshoff, and Dave Snyder, who I refer to as

1924
01:47:15,040 --> 01:47:15,760
Speaker 8: Snyder Day.

1925
01:47:15,800 --> 01:47:18,920
Speaker 2: There are champions. They are champions of the Bullying League.

1926
01:47:19,000 --> 01:47:22,000
Speaker 2: Congratulations Misfits wherever you are tonight?

1927
01:47:23,320 --> 01:47:23,559
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1928
01:47:23,800 --> 01:47:27,040
Speaker 1: All right, so, uh we're gonna get to some Bengals stuff.

1929
01:47:27,120 --> 01:47:29,160
Speaker 1: We can get it to some red stuff if you

1930
01:47:29,280 --> 01:47:29,679
Speaker 1: have any.

1931
01:47:30,120 --> 01:47:33,040
Speaker 8: We got lots of time yet, wild Man, So help

1932
01:47:33,120 --> 01:47:34,240
Speaker 8: me fill up the space.

1933
01:47:34,720 --> 01:47:37,160
Speaker 2: Oh I've got stuff out of you. One thing that's

1934
01:47:37,200 --> 01:47:39,000
Speaker 2: gonna that's good. I got one thing that's gonna kind

1935
01:47:39,040 --> 01:47:40,880
Speaker 2: of give you a case of the goose. You're gonna

1936
01:47:40,880 --> 01:47:41,720
Speaker 2: sound up about that?

1937
01:47:42,080 --> 01:47:45,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, uh do you want to do that first?

1938
01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:48,080
Speaker 1: Let's see where I'm at. Check my temperature, wild Man.

1939
01:47:48,760 --> 01:47:49,519
Speaker 6: All right, here we go.

1940
01:47:50,320 --> 01:47:55,280
Speaker 8: Johnny Manzel, Johnny Football giving advice to your boy diego

1941
01:47:55,400 --> 01:47:59,080
Speaker 8: Pavia on what to expect if he gets drafted.

1942
01:48:00,720 --> 01:48:02,280
Speaker 2: Coming up here in April.

1943
01:48:02,240 --> 01:48:07,200
Speaker 8: The Johnny Manzel giving advice to your boy, Vanderbilt quarterback

1944
01:48:07,240 --> 01:48:08,200
Speaker 8: Diego Pavia.

1945
01:48:09,479 --> 01:48:13,000
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I expected they were partying together. I

1946
01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:18,800
Speaker 1: saw pictures of them partying together after Vanderbilt's last game

1947
01:48:18,920 --> 01:48:20,479
Speaker 1: or before the bowl game or whatever.

1948
01:48:21,040 --> 01:48:23,880
Speaker 2: They are exactly the same kind.

1949
01:48:23,680 --> 01:48:26,840
Speaker 1: Of quarterback in college, and they're gonna have the same

1950
01:48:26,960 --> 01:48:30,320
Speaker 1: kind of fate in the NFL. Sadly, I said watching

1951
01:48:30,400 --> 01:48:34,840
Speaker 1: Diego Pavia play last year wild Man that he's a

1952
01:48:35,000 --> 01:48:38,400
Speaker 1: great college quarterback, and he was a great college quarterback.

1953
01:48:38,800 --> 01:48:41,519
Speaker 1: But he's too small. I mean they list him at

1954
01:48:41,560 --> 01:48:44,800
Speaker 1: six feet He's more like five to nine. He's Doug

1955
01:48:44,920 --> 01:48:46,559
Speaker 1: flute size, and.

1956
01:48:46,840 --> 01:48:49,479
Speaker 8: Well, Doug Flutey, Well, Doug Flutey had a pretty good career.

1957
01:48:49,560 --> 01:48:52,320
Speaker 2: I think the right team you never done the USFL.

1958
01:48:52,720 --> 01:48:55,240
Speaker 1: I mean no, I mean I could see Diego Pavia

1959
01:48:55,760 --> 01:48:59,320
Speaker 1: being maybe a backup. I could see him playing maybe

1960
01:48:59,360 --> 01:49:03,120
Speaker 1: another he could play. He's tough, he said that before.

1961
01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:06,160
Speaker 1: He's a tough kid. He could play fullback maybe in

1962
01:49:06,240 --> 01:49:09,080
Speaker 1: the NFL, or a special teams guy. The way he

1963
01:49:09,200 --> 01:49:12,560
Speaker 1: can run and juke and power through people and he

1964
01:49:12,720 --> 01:49:14,960
Speaker 1: can pass the ball. You know, you use him on

1965
01:49:15,040 --> 01:49:19,120
Speaker 1: a on a trick play. As a special teamer, I

1966
01:49:19,200 --> 01:49:22,760
Speaker 1: could see that, but as an NFL quarterback, I just

1967
01:49:23,160 --> 01:49:23,960
Speaker 1: don't see it.

1968
01:49:24,160 --> 01:49:26,639
Speaker 2: And I'm a big fan wild Man, what do you think.

1969
01:49:27,560 --> 01:49:28,080
Speaker 2: I don't think.

1970
01:49:28,160 --> 01:49:31,280
Speaker 8: I don't think you should uh or let's put this

1971
01:49:31,400 --> 01:49:34,600
Speaker 8: way Johnny Manziel's advice. I know, and I know the

1972
01:49:34,640 --> 01:49:37,000
Speaker 8: guy went went to south real quick. He went left,

1973
01:49:37,040 --> 01:49:38,680
Speaker 8: he went right, and he went in the hole. And

1974
01:49:39,160 --> 01:49:41,160
Speaker 8: I know he speaks from experience, but I would take

1975
01:49:41,200 --> 01:49:43,720
Speaker 8: whatever he said with a grain of salt. I mean,

1976
01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:46,639
Speaker 8: there's a guy that just threw through a great career away,

1977
01:49:46,760 --> 01:49:48,200
Speaker 8: just threw it away, just threw it away.

1978
01:49:48,640 --> 01:49:50,800
Speaker 2: The guy had the guy had the talent, and he

1979
01:49:50,960 --> 01:49:52,840
Speaker 2: just threw it away. And I don't know.

1980
01:49:52,880 --> 01:49:54,920
Speaker 8: If I would listen to him, I would go yeah, yeah, yeah,

1981
01:49:54,960 --> 01:49:57,000
Speaker 8: But I don't know. If i'd pay one to one point,

1982
01:49:57,000 --> 01:49:58,960
Speaker 8: I would not take anything he said.

1983
01:49:59,360 --> 01:50:03,120
Speaker 2: Seriously. I would not die. I need to put an

1984
01:50:03,200 --> 01:50:06,280
Speaker 2: arm and go okay, fine, you know, okay, thank you there.

1985
01:50:06,360 --> 01:50:08,840
Speaker 1: Maybe he's just drinking with him. You don't know, I mean,

1986
01:50:08,880 --> 01:50:11,719
Speaker 1: because they do. They do have a history of partying together.

1987
01:50:11,800 --> 01:50:13,960
Speaker 1: So I'm not surprised that Johnny Manziel is trying to

1988
01:50:14,040 --> 01:50:17,920
Speaker 1: offer Diego Pavi advice. To be honest with you, Oh okay,

1989
01:50:18,320 --> 01:50:20,960
Speaker 1: So so a no goo there for me on that

1990
01:50:21,680 --> 01:50:25,160
Speaker 1: particular thing. Although you got me thinking about Diego Poverty

1991
01:50:25,600 --> 01:50:28,759
Speaker 1: Pavia and the possibilities of him as an NFL player,

1992
01:50:29,120 --> 01:50:30,840
Speaker 1: I just don't think they're behind center.

1993
01:50:32,960 --> 01:50:35,000
Speaker 8: All right, how about this one? And I just loved

1994
01:50:35,080 --> 01:50:37,720
Speaker 8: what what what happened? And I believe it was Friday's

1995
01:50:37,800 --> 01:50:42,400
Speaker 8: game UT Eastern Michigan Travis Steele and Miami RedHawks to

1996
01:50:42,400 --> 01:50:44,479
Speaker 8: get a major got a major case of the goo,

1997
01:50:45,000 --> 01:50:46,759
Speaker 8: got a major case of the go. And I didn't

1998
01:50:46,840 --> 01:50:48,920
Speaker 8: get to see much because I was working the the

1999
01:50:49,320 --> 01:50:53,960
Speaker 8: the base basketball sectionals over at Indian Hill High School.

2000
01:50:54,040 --> 01:50:55,920
Speaker 8: But then I saw the replay where he was in

2001
01:50:56,120 --> 01:50:58,280
Speaker 8: sense at the refs, and I had a feeling when

2002
01:50:58,320 --> 01:51:01,719
Speaker 8: I kept looking at the score that uh, that Miami

2003
01:51:01,840 --> 01:51:03,800
Speaker 8: was kind of getting screwed by the refs because a

2004
01:51:03,920 --> 01:51:07,040
Speaker 8: star Michigan ain't worth the damn and uh. But as

2005
01:51:07,080 --> 01:51:08,639
Speaker 8: it turned out, he got a case of the goo

2006
01:51:08,720 --> 01:51:11,280
Speaker 8: right at halftime and ran off the court and pushed

2007
01:51:11,320 --> 01:51:14,240
Speaker 8: the DJ speaker and sent it flying.

2008
01:51:15,479 --> 01:51:16,439
Speaker 2: I thought that was cravy.

2009
01:51:16,600 --> 01:51:18,680
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, he sent it flying, and I think that

2010
01:51:18,840 --> 01:51:21,040
Speaker 8: was a message maybe to his guys, just to fire

2011
01:51:21,439 --> 01:51:23,560
Speaker 8: fire his guys up. But he admitted afterwards, you know,

2012
01:51:23,880 --> 01:51:25,080
Speaker 8: I need to control my temper.

2013
01:51:25,160 --> 01:51:27,040
Speaker 2: But and that and that, and that bit of a

2014
01:51:28,080 --> 01:51:28,920
Speaker 2: rage that he had, I.

2015
01:51:28,960 --> 01:51:30,800
Speaker 8: Kind of reminded me of Bobby Knight getting the case

2016
01:51:30,840 --> 01:51:33,040
Speaker 8: of the goo that, you know, to him to fire

2017
01:51:33,120 --> 01:51:33,640
Speaker 8: his team up.

2018
01:51:33,680 --> 01:51:35,800
Speaker 2: And I don't see anything wrong with that. I'm sure

2019
01:51:36,000 --> 01:51:37,840
Speaker 2: he's probably already wrote a check for that speaker.

2020
01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:41,960
Speaker 1: That guy, My goodness, wild man, you just reminded me

2021
01:51:43,160 --> 01:51:46,120
Speaker 1: of watching Mick Cronin on this sidelines that you see,

2022
01:51:46,920 --> 01:51:50,360
Speaker 1: and how how many times I thought his head was

2023
01:51:50,439 --> 01:51:53,840
Speaker 1: going to explode during a game. I mean, I kept

2024
01:51:53,880 --> 01:51:56,240
Speaker 1: on I didn't want to see it, but I kept

2025
01:51:56,280 --> 01:51:59,360
Speaker 1: on imagining the scene from Scanners, the movie where the

2026
01:51:59,479 --> 01:52:03,040
Speaker 1: aliens heads just or the people's heads just explode from

2027
01:52:03,080 --> 01:52:06,000
Speaker 1: the alien messenger or whatever, and I thought that was

2028
01:52:06,000 --> 01:52:09,280
Speaker 1: gonna happen to Mick Cronin. I'm surprised that the man

2029
01:52:09,360 --> 01:52:13,880
Speaker 1: didn't have strokes while he was coaching the Bearcats, because

2030
01:52:13,920 --> 01:52:17,479
Speaker 1: he would be just so insane out of his mind

2031
01:52:17,600 --> 01:52:18,640
Speaker 1: on the sidelines.

2032
01:52:19,080 --> 01:52:20,920
Speaker 2: It was nuts, wasn't it.

2033
01:52:22,160 --> 01:52:24,799
Speaker 8: It was very nuts. But I don't miss him one iodo.

2034
01:52:24,920 --> 01:52:27,240
Speaker 8: He's not a pimple on the ass of Bob Hawkins.

2035
01:52:27,280 --> 01:52:28,120
Speaker 2: And we'll leave it at that.

2036
01:52:28,720 --> 01:52:34,680
Speaker 8: The Travis Steele, I mean, he's done a wonderful job

2037
01:52:34,720 --> 01:52:35,240
Speaker 8: at Miami.

2038
01:52:35,320 --> 01:52:35,840
Speaker 2: They love him.

2039
01:52:35,840 --> 01:52:38,320
Speaker 8: He could run for mayor and win in a landslide.

2040
01:52:38,520 --> 01:52:40,160
Speaker 8: And for him to get fired up, I think that's

2041
01:52:40,160 --> 01:52:41,560
Speaker 8: the that's the hottest.

2042
01:52:41,240 --> 01:52:43,360
Speaker 2: He's been all year. And I don't blame him. I mean,

2043
01:52:43,439 --> 01:52:45,400
Speaker 2: like I said, you know, they're trying to stay undefeated.

2044
01:52:45,560 --> 01:52:48,040
Speaker 8: They were probably getting hosed on calls because I kept

2045
01:52:48,080 --> 01:52:51,280
Speaker 8: looking at the score, and no matter what, they were

2046
01:52:51,320 --> 01:52:53,679
Speaker 8: down by nine points with about I think two minutes

2047
01:52:53,720 --> 01:52:53,840
Speaker 8: to go.

2048
01:52:54,320 --> 01:52:56,639
Speaker 2: They came and pulled out the win and pulled out

2049
01:52:56,680 --> 01:52:57,000
Speaker 2: the win.

2050
01:52:57,320 --> 01:53:00,519
Speaker 1: I know they're finding all different kinds of ways to win.

2051
01:53:01,479 --> 01:53:04,000
Speaker 1: That was a game where they didn't beat the point spread,

2052
01:53:04,040 --> 01:53:06,719
Speaker 1: but they've been better against the point spread than almost

2053
01:53:06,760 --> 01:53:09,360
Speaker 1: any other team in Division one college basketball this year.

2054
01:53:09,840 --> 01:53:10,599
Speaker 2: The RedHawks.

2055
01:53:11,000 --> 01:53:12,920
Speaker 8: I stay away from point spreads. I know that I

2056
01:53:13,000 --> 01:53:14,240
Speaker 8: stay away from any of the little gus.

2057
01:53:14,240 --> 01:53:16,840
Speaker 1: I'm just saying It's another indicator of how great this

2058
01:53:17,040 --> 01:53:19,000
Speaker 1: season has been, you know what I mean.

2059
01:53:19,120 --> 01:53:22,280
Speaker 8: For Miami, oh absolutely, And they got the game against

2060
01:53:22,320 --> 01:53:25,680
Speaker 8: Toledo tomorrow and then they play at a they play

2061
01:53:25,720 --> 01:53:26,679
Speaker 8: at Ohio University.

2062
01:53:26,720 --> 01:53:29,640
Speaker 2: That game is gonna be nationally televised on ESPN. And

2063
01:53:29,720 --> 01:53:31,040
Speaker 2: they play at Ohio.

2064
01:53:30,840 --> 01:53:33,440
Speaker 8: University and they beat Ohio University by I think seventeen,

2065
01:53:33,840 --> 01:53:35,400
Speaker 8: and they'll probably get no calls up there.

2066
01:53:35,400 --> 01:53:36,880
Speaker 2: They'll have to, you know, just battle through it.

2067
01:53:37,120 --> 01:53:40,519
Speaker 8: But they should finish undefeated in the regular season, and

2068
01:53:40,640 --> 01:53:42,960
Speaker 8: that's something that's something that you're hat on forever.

2069
01:53:43,439 --> 01:53:45,080
Speaker 1: Well, you know what would give me a case of

2070
01:53:45,160 --> 01:53:48,320
Speaker 1: the gup personally. And I'm not a huge Miami fan.

2071
01:53:48,400 --> 01:53:50,519
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of this particular team and what they

2072
01:53:50,600 --> 01:53:54,160
Speaker 1: have been able to accomplish this season. But if they

2073
01:53:54,439 --> 01:53:58,160
Speaker 1: lose a game in their conference tournament and that could

2074
01:53:58,280 --> 01:54:02,559
Speaker 1: happen and the NCED somehow excludes them from the tournament,

2075
01:54:02,600 --> 01:54:04,599
Speaker 1: do you think there's any chance that that could happen?

2076
01:54:04,680 --> 01:54:05,160
Speaker 2: Wild man.

2077
01:54:06,439 --> 01:54:08,560
Speaker 8: I think at this point, by going undefeated in the

2078
01:54:08,560 --> 01:54:11,640
Speaker 8: regular season, they're in automatically. I know they look at

2079
01:54:11,680 --> 01:54:14,360
Speaker 8: the the RPI s and all this and the Quad

2080
01:54:14,439 --> 01:54:17,040
Speaker 8: one wherever that that they started this Quad one stuff

2081
01:54:17,080 --> 01:54:21,000
Speaker 8: and this Quad two stuff. If they finished out undefeated,

2082
01:54:21,080 --> 01:54:22,680
Speaker 8: they're in. They're in no matter what, and they're not

2083
01:54:22,800 --> 01:54:24,920
Speaker 8: losing the first game in the matter.

2084
01:54:25,360 --> 01:54:27,479
Speaker 6: You know what that Gary Jeff.

2085
01:54:27,520 --> 01:54:30,639
Speaker 8: All season long, the focus had been on paying back

2086
01:54:30,760 --> 01:54:33,960
Speaker 8: Acchering from last year. And they want Akron one more time.

2087
01:54:34,200 --> 01:54:35,680
Speaker 8: They want them one more time.

2088
01:54:36,600 --> 01:54:40,320
Speaker 1: Well, it'd be nice to see the zips zipped up

2089
01:54:40,400 --> 01:54:43,840
Speaker 1: and put away. That would be that would be nice,

2090
01:54:44,320 --> 01:54:46,640
Speaker 1: all right, wild man, You say that the Bengals are

2091
01:54:46,920 --> 01:54:50,000
Speaker 1: scoring one thousand percent in free agency so far.

2092
01:54:50,560 --> 01:54:53,880
Speaker 8: So far because they re signed Dalton Reisner today for

2093
01:54:54,000 --> 01:54:57,160
Speaker 8: the offensive line. So now the offensive line is set.

2094
01:54:57,600 --> 01:55:00,720
Speaker 8: And you know, in fact, Dalton Rise just came out

2095
01:55:00,760 --> 01:55:02,800
Speaker 8: and said, I wanted to be I wanted to be here.

2096
01:55:03,360 --> 01:55:05,480
Speaker 8: I told my I put the pressure on my on

2097
01:55:05,600 --> 01:55:08,720
Speaker 8: my agent to get it done. That's that speaks volumes

2098
01:55:08,800 --> 01:55:11,200
Speaker 8: right there of that guy what he thinks what the

2099
01:55:11,280 --> 01:55:13,160
Speaker 8: future could be for this football team.

2100
01:55:13,200 --> 01:55:15,880
Speaker 2: But the offensive line is set right now. They're gonna

2101
01:55:15,880 --> 01:55:16,800
Speaker 2: go out and maybe.

2102
01:55:16,680 --> 01:55:19,480
Speaker 8: Draft another offensive lineman, maybe later in the draft, but

2103
01:55:19,640 --> 01:55:22,760
Speaker 8: so far, one thousand or one thousand, and then here

2104
01:55:22,880 --> 01:55:25,600
Speaker 8: comes to the free agency signings.

2105
01:55:25,200 --> 01:55:26,720
Speaker 2: Down the road, and they've got to jump on that

2106
01:55:26,880 --> 01:55:28,360
Speaker 2: right away. They canna start talking.

2107
01:55:28,160 --> 01:55:30,080
Speaker 8: To him next week and then they canna make the

2108
01:55:31,240 --> 01:55:33,120
Speaker 8: sign the guys a couple of days afterwards. So that

2109
01:55:33,480 --> 01:55:35,040
Speaker 8: it's all so far, so good.

2110
01:55:35,120 --> 01:55:38,360
Speaker 2: Can't complain, can't complain? Is Orlando Brown still on the roster?

2111
01:55:38,480 --> 01:55:38,960
Speaker 2: Wild man?

2112
01:55:39,640 --> 01:55:42,000
Speaker 8: Of course he's on the roster. Of course what he

2113
01:55:42,040 --> 01:55:44,600
Speaker 8: got along with what? Well, you know, like Orlando Brown,

2114
01:55:44,880 --> 01:55:50,720
Speaker 8: he's he's a he's a penalty machine. He's a penalty machine.

2115
01:55:51,560 --> 01:55:53,280
Speaker 8: Well for what they're paying him, he said, he did.

2116
01:55:53,320 --> 01:55:55,080
Speaker 8: He's a pretty good left tackle. He's a pretty good

2117
01:55:55,240 --> 01:55:57,640
Speaker 8: He's not a great left tackle, but he's he's a

2118
01:55:57,680 --> 01:55:58,680
Speaker 8: pretty good left tackle.

2119
01:55:59,080 --> 01:56:02,240
Speaker 2: When you say great, you use Anthony Munos. See that's

2120
01:56:02,280 --> 01:56:04,200
Speaker 2: the word, that's the word that drives me. That's a

2121
01:56:04,280 --> 01:56:07,800
Speaker 2: pretty darn high bar. That's a pretty high bar, Anthony

2122
01:56:07,920 --> 01:56:10,280
Speaker 2: Juno And I know, and that's a word to get

2123
01:56:10,320 --> 01:56:13,400
Speaker 2: stown around. It just drives me crazy. Great, Oh great?

2124
01:56:13,480 --> 01:56:13,800
Speaker 3: Is it? What?

2125
01:56:14,240 --> 01:56:15,000
Speaker 2: He's a great hitter?

2126
01:56:15,080 --> 01:56:15,160
Speaker 3: Oh?

2127
01:56:15,480 --> 01:56:18,200
Speaker 8: As in Ty Cobb? Really, you know he's a got

2128
01:56:18,280 --> 01:56:21,760
Speaker 8: to sixty. You know, he's a great basketball player. Oh really,

2129
01:56:21,840 --> 01:56:25,360
Speaker 8: hasn't Larry Bird. All right, okay, yeah, that word. Don't

2130
01:56:25,360 --> 01:56:27,720
Speaker 8: you talking about a word? That's that's the biggest crutch,

2131
01:56:27,920 --> 01:56:30,560
Speaker 8: along with we'll see what happens. I'm so sick of

2132
01:56:30,640 --> 01:56:34,240
Speaker 8: hearing great, we'll see what happens and unbelievable. Please get

2133
01:56:34,320 --> 01:56:36,360
Speaker 8: rid of those words wherever, get rid of them.

2134
01:56:36,760 --> 01:56:39,280
Speaker 1: By the way, I got the Larry Bird book. I

2135
01:56:39,440 --> 01:56:41,480
Speaker 1: was telling you about a few weeks back in the

2136
01:56:41,560 --> 01:56:44,200
Speaker 1: mail at home. And as soon as I get done

2137
01:56:44,240 --> 01:56:46,840
Speaker 1: getting my eyeprints all over it, I'll I'll get you

2138
01:56:47,000 --> 01:56:47,520
Speaker 1: my copy.

2139
01:56:47,640 --> 01:56:52,880
Speaker 2: You can borrow it. It's really okay. And when are

2140
01:56:52,920 --> 01:56:54,600
Speaker 2: you talking to that? To the author?

2141
01:56:55,040 --> 01:56:57,920
Speaker 1: Well, I had scheduled him for tomorrow, but guess what.

2142
01:56:58,520 --> 01:57:00,480
Speaker 1: They moved the UC bad This is what I have

2143
01:57:00,560 --> 01:57:01,200
Speaker 1: the goo about.

2144
01:57:02,000 --> 01:57:05,640
Speaker 8: Inexplicably, they moved the uc Utah.

2145
01:57:05,520 --> 01:57:10,520
Speaker 2: Basketball game to nine o'clock tomorrow. It was scheduled for seven.

2146
01:57:10,640 --> 01:57:14,000
Speaker 1: They moved it to nine, which means that the nightcap

2147
01:57:14,200 --> 01:57:17,280
Speaker 1: will be no baby Na tomorrow night, except for maybe

2148
01:57:17,360 --> 01:57:19,920
Speaker 1: a half hour. If I've got a half hour left,

2149
01:57:20,320 --> 01:57:22,880
Speaker 1: I will air the interview. If not, I will save

2150
01:57:22,960 --> 01:57:23,960
Speaker 1: it for later.

2151
01:57:25,160 --> 01:57:26,280
Speaker 2: And well, I can't wait.

2152
01:57:26,440 --> 01:57:27,840
Speaker 8: I can't wait to hear what that guy has to

2153
01:57:27,920 --> 01:57:31,240
Speaker 8: save about Larry Bird, which I and I pretty much

2154
01:57:31,360 --> 01:57:34,760
Speaker 8: know ninety nine percent about Larry Bird because I know

2155
01:57:34,800 --> 01:57:37,080
Speaker 8: where he came from. I was there in Tarahood, Indiana

2156
01:57:37,320 --> 01:57:39,680
Speaker 8: when he when he came there and played his first game,

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Speaker 8: and I'm.

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Speaker 2: Going to go to the Celtics.

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Speaker 8: The one thing that still drives me nuts to this

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Speaker 8: day Gary Jeff that the Indiana Pacers had a chance

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Speaker 8: to draft Larry Bird and they decided to pass them

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Speaker 8: out because he had another year of college left and

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01:57:54,640 --> 01:57:57,360
Speaker 8: they could have drafted him. Okay, who did they take.

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Speaker 8: They took Rick Roby, he said, taking Larry Bird and

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Speaker 8: waiting for him. And the franchise almost went under because

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Speaker 8: of Bob Leonard and his wife up there, because they

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Speaker 8: were just two idiots in the front.

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Speaker 2: Office and they passed up.

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Speaker 1: They passed up Larry Bird. Yeah, that's like taking Sam.

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Speaker 1: That's like taking Sam Bowie ahead of Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 8: Well yeah, and you know, you know here and Bird

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Speaker 8: was an Indiana guy right down the street.

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Speaker 2: And and and Brett Ardbach one of.

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Speaker 8: The greatest geniuses ever. And then in the NBA history,

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Speaker 8: he said, you know what, I'll take Larry Bird. I'll

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Speaker 8: wait a year and arrest his history and who had

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Speaker 8: the biggest turnaround in the NBA when Larry Bird joined

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Speaker 8: in Boston Celtics. The Boston Celtics had the biggest turnaround

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Speaker 8: That descrives it nuts. But you know what then the

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Speaker 8: defense of Indiana Pacers their new ownership, they wised up

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Speaker 8: and brought Larry Bird in as.

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Speaker 2: A coach and they almost won the damn NBA Finals.

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Speaker 1: With Larry Bird, no doubt, Larry's had a stellar career

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Speaker 1: all the way around in basketball, and he came from unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: You know what scared me a little bit when you

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Speaker 1: began that little rambling uh thing that you were on

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Speaker 1: on Larry Bird wild man. As you said you you

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Speaker 1: were there, you you knew where he came from. I

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Speaker 1: was wondering if you were in the bedroom during conception.

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Speaker 2: Uh no, I was not. Okay, So you don't know

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Speaker 2: exactly where he came from? What do you what do

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Speaker 2: you are you smoking something today? Something like that?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 2: No, no, I'm not smoking anything. I am I am.

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Speaker 2: I just do you know where he came from? Prince Lick, Indiana?

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Speaker 7: You know?

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Speaker 2: And he didn't like it there and then he.

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01:59:36,560 --> 01:59:38,960
Speaker 8: Went back and was working on a garbage truck and

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Speaker 8: he was playing pick up basketball. And Bill Hodges kind

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01:59:43,720 --> 01:59:45,560
Speaker 8: of went there and kind and tracked him down, and

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Speaker 8: Bob King, who was the coach at Indiana State, talking

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Speaker 8: into coming there.

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01:59:49,840 --> 01:59:51,960
Speaker 2: And then when he went to tarot Haute, believe it

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01:59:52,080 --> 01:59:53,480
Speaker 2: or not, you know where, you know where he was

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01:59:53,480 --> 01:59:55,880
Speaker 2: spending most of his time at the Boys Club.

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Speaker 8: That's where he was like living and he's a big,

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Speaker 8: huge Boys Club supporter in Tarror.

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Speaker 1: Yes, wild man, I'm not smoking. I'm not smoking anything,

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Speaker 1: but I'm smelling the midnight oil. We gotta go take Okay,

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Speaker 1: well I think we covered it all and then some yeah,

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Speaker 1: take take care, wild man.

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Speaker 2: It's the nightcap and we wrap it up next