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Speaker 2: I'm good, my guys? How we How are we doing today?

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Speaker 2: Also days before we start congratulations appreciation state title. Man.

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Speaker 2: You know I was watching from Afar very impressively congratulations.

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Speaker 3: No, appreciate that for sure. So you guys are you

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Speaker 3: guys are winding down back there? It's it's it's been

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Speaker 3: You've got Miles Garrett trying to break the all time

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Speaker 3: you kind of put things in perspective and and finish

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Speaker 2: You know? You know I put a sack with Miles

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Speaker 2: do you ever think about just letting Miles is get

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Speaker 2: you serious? Like are you serious? And that's kind of

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Speaker 2: epitome is like what we have so much to play

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Speaker 2: for every place, you know, you know, like every play

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Speaker 2: you have so much to play for. You have to

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Speaker 2: go all out every place and like that, and that's

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Speaker 2: the same thing, the same thing in my mind as tanking.

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Speaker 2: It's like, bro, I'm trying to go out there and

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Speaker 2: make plays too, Like he just makes them a crazy rate.

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Speaker 2: You're not about to be a Hall of Fame rate,

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Speaker 2: but like we're all trying to make plays out there,

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Speaker 2: like Dave, I think that you know the mindset of

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Speaker 2: like being a vet. What you're to do is you

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Speaker 2: have to remind the young players that they are playing

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Speaker 2: for a lot. You know you are, you're playing for

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Speaker 2: you know, you got some un drafted guys, you got

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Speaker 2: what I'm preaching to these guys is these are, if

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Speaker 2: not the most important, least of the season for you.

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Speaker 1: Shelby, how do.

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Speaker 4: You manage sort of the physical toll the season takes

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Speaker 4: it is just each day you have a certain regimen, and.

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Speaker 2: The mental part of it, I think that gets handled

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Speaker 5: Work with two.

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Speaker 2: We're still talking trash and we're still having a good

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Speaker 2: right now, But that mental part of it'd be different.

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Speaker 2: If we were losing, people weren't getting along, you would

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Speaker 2: see the guys stick together through these tough times. Now, physically,

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Speaker 2: you know, you got to do everything you can. You know,

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Speaker 2: at this point, David, like every day is a different

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Speaker 2: But you know, that's what we signed up for. And

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Speaker 5: And so these ends of the season, you want to see.

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Speaker 2: Guys get beat up. You're goanna see guys with these

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Speaker 2: But you know, we need to talk to guys like Lebron.

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Speaker 3: You've you've been on some good teams. This is a

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Speaker 2: I can always say to that it's farm your own land.

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Speaker 4: You guys got a game against the Buffalo Bills, who

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Speaker 2: Hey, I know that with the players. I know we

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Speaker 5: Those years I was in Denver, we were in this

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Speaker 4: What's it like playing against Josh Allen as a defensive lineman.

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Speaker 1: No doubt about it.

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Speaker 4: Last couple here for you, man, I always appreciate you

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Speaker 4: checking with us on Tuesdays. So the Broncos get to

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Speaker 2: step up. So I'm you know, you have to believe

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Speaker 2: the Broncos all the taper it in the AMC. They

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Speaker 2: just have to finish strong. We all know how those

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Speaker 2: these last couple of games of the year will really

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Speaker 2: dictate how you going to the playoffs?

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Speaker 1: No, for sure, absolutely all right, so the last one

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Speaker 1: I have for you.

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Speaker 4: And then on what more from a defensive lineman perspective

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Speaker 4: on this, because I think we sometimes say, well in

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Speaker 4: December to January, offenses have to run the ball.

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Speaker 1: You got to find a way to run the ball.

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Speaker 4: From a defensive lineman perspective, is that as big a

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Speaker 4: deal as we tend to sell.

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Speaker 2: It, it is. I think the biggest these athletes now

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Speaker 5: So you have to change it up.

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Speaker 2: You have to switch it up. You just can't let

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Speaker 2: them know it's pass if you played, because these guys

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Speaker 2: are too good. We have guys that run four fours

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Speaker 5: So you got to get your offensive tackles a chance.

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Speaker 2: And so I'm I'm a big believer, and you know,

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Speaker 2: will tell you the same thing. Running the ball, it's

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Speaker 2: like it enforces your will on the other team. It

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Speaker 2: weakens them. It actually takes their confidence out of the game.

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Speaker 2: So when you do go play action, when you do

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Speaker 2: drop back past, the team already is doesn't have it

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Speaker 2: doesn't have its full heart, and so running the ball,

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Speaker 2: you can just break a team's wills.

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Speaker 5: Just off of running the ball.

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Speaker 2: And that's why I've always been a true believer that

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Speaker 2: the run game opens up everything because if you got

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Speaker 2: to think, look at if you look at any game

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Speaker 2: run the ball. If you look at the defense, they

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Speaker 5: They're like, you can't.

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Speaker 2: It limits you so much if you can't run the ball.

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Speaker 2: So that's why I'm running the ball is the most

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Speaker 2: important often is the thing you can do in football.

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Speaker 1: I was great to catch up with you, my friend.

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Speaker 1: We need you. We need you guys to beat the Bills.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the Broncos are locked in, but seating is important,

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Speaker 4: so please do your best to help us out.

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Speaker 1: And we love you.

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Speaker 2: Hey, the Downtown's hey, look how it always does. Appreciate you, guys,

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Speaker 2: sure appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: Shelby Harris