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Speaker 1: KFI AM six forty. You're listening to Dean Sharp, the

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Speaker 1: House Whisper on demand on the iHeart Radio app.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, my friend, Welcome home.

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Speaker 1: I am Dean Sharp, the house Whisperer, custom home Builder,

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Speaker 1: custom home Designer, and every week your guide to better

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Speaker 1: understand that place where you live. Whether home for you

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Speaker 1: is a castle or a cottage, it matters not to me,

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Speaker 1: you know why, because luxury does not a great homemake.

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Speaker 1: It is design that matters most. That's what warms the

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Speaker 1: cockles of your heart. Are there cockles in people's hearts?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 1: Good design makes all the difference. Every house deserves that,

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Speaker 1: every house should enjoy it because you know what. Once

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Speaker 1: good design is at work in your home, that is,

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Speaker 1: when your house has a path forward toward becoming a truly,

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Speaker 1: truly great home. It is our all show, as we

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Speaker 1: do every week every Saturday morning. And the number to

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Speaker 1: reach me, of course eight three three two. Ask Dean

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Speaker 1: eight three to three the numeral two. Ask Dean whether

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Speaker 1: you are scratching your head about your home in a

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Speaker 1: design issue or a construction issue, Whether it's DIY that's

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Speaker 1: got you wondering about some things inside stuff outside stuff,

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Speaker 1: landscape decor, no matter what I got you, we'll put

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Speaker 1: our heads together.

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Speaker 2: We will get it figured out.

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Speaker 1: You get to set the agenda for our program today,

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Speaker 1: as is always the case with our All Calls shows.

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Speaker 1: And it is the first weekend twenty six, is it not? Yes,

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Speaker 1: it is happy New Year to you. It is a

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Speaker 1: rainy weekend here in southern California. I hope the weather

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Speaker 1: wherever you find yourself is treating you well and you

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Speaker 1: have a plan for taking full advantage of what for

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Speaker 1: most of us is that final couple of days of

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Speaker 1: holiday rest before we're back into it come Monday.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that the case?

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Speaker 1: I mean, well, in this situation whenever the calendar favors

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Speaker 1: the last weekend here, so you know, for most of us,

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Speaker 1: Monday is the official beginning of the new work year.

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Speaker 1: A lot of stuff laid ahead for us this year,

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Speaker 1: a lot of a lot, a lot of stuff. And

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Speaker 1: I hope you are going to be with us throughout

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Speaker 1: the duration because as always, we're going to be spending

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Speaker 1: a lot of time and energy talking about your home.

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Speaker 1: And let's see, where's my boss? Where is she at?

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Speaker 1: I don't see her yet. We will get Tina to

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Speaker 1: you when she arrives here, my design partner, my better half,

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Speaker 1: my best buddy in all the world. She is abou

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Speaker 1: out and about, so we'll be talking to her in

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Speaker 1: just a bit. Let us also say good morning to Sam. Sam.

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Speaker 1: How you doing though, Good morning, Dean, how you doing?

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Speaker 1: I am well, I am well. It's a very calm,

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Speaker 1: quiet morning here. The rain is a drizzling. I don't

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Speaker 1: think it's raining right now at the moment, but is

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Speaker 1: it still actually in the forecast for rain for most

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Speaker 2: I think it's still out there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not the news person, so I couldn't

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Speaker 4: tell you for sure. But I did bring my kid

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Speaker 4: when it's raining.

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Speaker 2: He'll say, Hey, Dad, look outside, it's raining. There you go.

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Speaker 4: So that's as good a weather man as I can

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Speaker 4: imagine right now, not.

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Speaker 1: So much a predictive quality, just a on the spot reporter.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll put him. I'll send him outside with a

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Speaker 4: cell phone. He'll call in and give us updates. Hey,

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Speaker 4: it's raining back to you. We should definitely do that.

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Speaker 4: That would be awesome.

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Speaker 1: And now to our man in the field standing outside

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Speaker 1: and then on we go. All right, good to be

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Speaker 1: with you, Sam, Happy New Year, Bud, Happy New Year.

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Speaker 1: So where do we go from here? Well, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: wait for calls. It's just you know whatever, Just return

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Speaker 2: We'll wait for gold.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 1: Look, I'm gonna give the number one more time, A

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Speaker 1: three three to ask Dean eight three three the numeral two,

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Speaker 1: ask Dean. We have got room on the callboard for you.

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Speaker 1: In the meantime, I'm been checking on construction trends and

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Last week's show, we spend a good amount of time

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Speaker 1: I don't like trends. I don't like them at all.

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Speaker 1: Trends are of no use to you when it comes

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Speaker 1: and you can just you know, you're going out and

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Speaker 1: to buy a shirt and you know a few months

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Speaker 1: from now or next year, you decide, nah, not.

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Speaker 2: Interesting that anymore. Let's change the color or style of

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Speaker 1: No, not when you're spending tens or hundreds of thousands

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Speaker 1: going to work, is it.

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Speaker 1: So we don't want to follow trends. We follow movements.

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Speaker 1: And the difference between the two is the trends are

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Speaker 1: driven by fashion. They're driven by influencers. They're driven by

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Speaker 1: whatever anybody you know gets online and tells you, hey,

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Speaker 1: should be this year. You know, it's all well and good,

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Speaker 2: No, no, no.

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Speaker 1: What I want to be is on always taking you

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Speaker 1: are driven by three things. Essentially, They're driven by architecture

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Speaker 1: specifically home architecture. They're driven by cultural shifts and you know,

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Speaker 1: our culture and the way we live, our lives always

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Speaker 1: course not. And they're also driven by the development of

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Speaker 1: building science. And now other words, what are we capable

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Speaker 1: manifesting those changes that we want and desire into our homes?

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Speaker 1: These are all relevant things. I've got more thoughts on that.

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Speaker 1: We will get back to that and hopefully your calls.

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Speaker 1: Here's the number eight three three two. Ask de looks

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Speaker 1: like we've got a couple of calls coming in the board,

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Speaker 1: but there's a room for you. Eight three to three two,

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Speaker 1: Ask Dean, eight three three the numeral two. Ask Dean,

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Speaker 1: you are home with Dean Sharp, the house whisper.

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Speaker 2: More on the other side.

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Speaker 1: Dean Sharp, the house Whisper here to help you take

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Speaker 1: your home to the next level. Thanks for joining us

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Speaker 1: on the program. This very dark, still very cloudy, and

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Speaker 1: Saturday morning, like we do every week. I hope wherever

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Speaker 1: No matter what, whatever the case may be, a lot

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Speaker 1: of good stuff happened out there we got some football,

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Speaker 1: we got well, there's just all sorts of stuff going

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Speaker 1: on this weekend. We are taking your calls, and we've

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Speaker 1: got calls on the board, so let's go to the

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Speaker 1: phones without any further ado, I want to talk to Joyce.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Joyce, welcome home.

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Speaker 5: Hellogan, I'm so glad to get it through to you.

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Speaker 5: You mentioned a few weeks ago about making wood into

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Speaker 5: a different thing so that termites wouldn't gather it. And

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Speaker 5: great too, and get rid of all that where you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're absolutely right, Joyce. Thanks for that observation. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it is something that is an ongoing conversation in the

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Speaker 1: using wood for our homes? And I get it, the

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Speaker 1: termite issue is an issue, and I can address that

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Speaker 1: general construction for homes, there's really no view currently on

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Speaker 1: are lots of different forms of it these days. Now,

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Speaker 2: Now. There are farmed materials.

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Speaker 1: Out of that wood, then we would be you know,

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Speaker 1: Already we're seeing prices going up all across the construction

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Speaker 1: reading an article where I think aluminum has gone up.

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Speaker 1: Import aluminum has gone up thirteen percent. All sorts of

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Speaker 1: those kinds of things. But back to your point, there

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Speaker 1: is a whole slew of new building science. Like I

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Speaker 1: it comes to wood in a home, all sorts of

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Speaker 1: new things that have been out for a while, we

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Speaker 1: are finding more and more easier ways of actually making

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Speaker 1: basic construction materials out of lower you know, not to

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Speaker 1: old growth pieces of woods. So whereas right now, and

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Speaker 1: this is still the case because it's still the least

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Speaker 1: expensive way to go. Whereas right now, you know, your

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Speaker 1: typical two by four stud's that's the branch of a

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Speaker 1: That's why you see the grain of the wood all

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Speaker 1: what that is, well, you've seen ausome weighted strandboard OSB.

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Speaker 1: slowly but surely, that quarter inch gap can be retrofitted

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Speaker 1: into that floor, and then the molding's placed down. And

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Speaker 1: as for the planks in the center, Oh you don't.

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Speaker 1: We're up against a break. Okay, I have to honor

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Speaker 1: the break. Randy, you hang tight. I'm gonna leave everybody hanging.

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Speaker 1: What do we do with that raised plank in the center.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about it right on the other side. Your

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Speaker 1: home with Dean Sharp, the house Whisper. Dean Sharp, the

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Speaker 1: house Whisper here to remind you every home deserves great design.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us on the program this morning, this rainy, dark,

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Speaker 1: got some cool plans for the day. It is that

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Speaker 1: new year has begun, but for most of us.

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Speaker 2: You know, Monday, Monday is that day. So we've got

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Speaker 2: today and tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Just a couple of more days to stretch it on out,

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Speaker 1: and you know, breathe deeply before the year begins.

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Speaker 2: I think it's going to be a good one. Let's hope.

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Speaker 1: going on with your home today, inside, outside, structure, architecture, design, landscape, decor,

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Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. I'm here to see you

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Speaker 1: through it and to help you figure it out. So

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Speaker 1: give us a call. We're talking to Randy, and Randy

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Speaker 1: I didn't hang up.

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Speaker 3: On you, right, No, I'm still here, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: So Randy has a hardwood floor he has a raised

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Speaker 1: foundation house, so he's got a crawl space under his house.

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Speaker 1: He had a hardwood floor laid down, and now it's buckling,

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Speaker 1: and the buckle is because the hardwood floor was run

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Speaker 1: wall to wall, edge to edge without any gaps for

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Speaker 1: expansion around the outside. We've already talked about the fact that,

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Speaker 1: you know, the easy part of it, if we want to.

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Speaker 2: Call it that.

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Speaker 1: The easier part Randy, of course, is putting in that

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Speaker 1: gap now because whatever trim boards are around the outside,

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Speaker 1: even if there aren't in some spaces, we can add them.

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Speaker 1: We can cut that gap in. We can use an

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Speaker 1: oscillating saw. It's going to take time, but we can

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Speaker 1: cut in that quarter inch plus gap around the floor

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Speaker 1: and then reinstall, reinstall trim boards over to cover that gap.

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Speaker 1: That gap is critical just for this reason, so that

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Speaker 1: the whole floor can expand and contract without buckling. But

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Speaker 1: in Randy's case, it's a little too late for for well,

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Speaker 1: it's not too late to do that, but it's too

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Speaker 1: late to avoid the buckle, because he's got one about

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Speaker 1: two thirds the way across the floor, running lengthwise in

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Speaker 1: the planks, which is typical.

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Speaker 2: Now, the big question is all right.

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Speaker 1: Let's say we've cut in the gap, We've covered it over,

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Speaker 1: and so the floor is not going to keep doing it.

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Speaker 1: But what do we do with what we've got, which

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Speaker 1: is that buckle out there in the middle of the floor. Randy,

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Speaker 1: you said you don't have any more plank material left.

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Speaker 3: I have a little bit left. I'm not sure if

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Speaker 3: I have enough to destroy any of the planks that

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Speaker 3: existing on the floor.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: My concern too, is is that I don't know how

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Speaker 3: it was nailed to the sub floor. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if they did every course or if it's several courses

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Speaker 3: and then put nails down. That's another concern I have.

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Speaker 3: So if it does get cut, if we do cut

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Speaker 3: the edges to treat this gap, well, the floor put

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Speaker 3: the nails in it eventually move over. I'll have to

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Speaker 3: do something else with that as well.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the nails will allow for the expansion, So

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Speaker 1: that's not a concern.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: And but on the edges, the nice thing is if

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Speaker 1: you if you do cut that gap on the edges,

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Speaker 1: we don't have to We don't have to depend on

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Speaker 1: nails to hold down the new edge.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: In fact, it's preferable not to in that situation, because

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Speaker 1: what will hold down the edge will be the trim

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Speaker 1: board that you put on top of the cord around

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Speaker 1: that'll keep it flat and hold it down, And the

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Speaker 1: absence of nail right there on the edge will just

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Speaker 1: give it that much more freedom to expand into the

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Speaker 1: gaps as there's expansion and contraction. But the middle of

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Speaker 1: the floor, here's the tricky part. Here's the t without

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Speaker 1: boring everybody stiff with the construction of this, the middle

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Speaker 1: of the floor. Let me ask you this. When you

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Speaker 1: walk out onto that floor where the buckle is, if

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Speaker 1: you stand on the buckle or put weight on it,

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Speaker 1: can you force it down back down to the subfloor.

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Speaker 2: You can't. That is the best news of.

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Speaker 1: All, okay, because because if you couldn't, I mean, if

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Speaker 1: it was such a severe buckle that you can't force

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Speaker 1: it back down, then we've got to remove one of

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Speaker 1: those planks and which is going to damage it, which

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Speaker 1: means replacing it. And if you don't have them enough material,

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Speaker 1: you're stuck. So that's the thing. Now, it was the

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Speaker 1: floor only nailed down. Is this a is this an

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Speaker 1: engineered floor or is it a solid hardwood floor?

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Speaker 3: It's an engineered floor, and it.

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Speaker 1: Was was it only nailed down, it wasn't glued correct. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So in this case, what we're gonna want to do

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Speaker 1: is we're gonna want to treat this like a squeaky floor.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna want to put pressure on that buckle. Once

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Speaker 1: the gap is there around the outside edge, force it down.

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Speaker 1: And I don't want to waste time with nails there.

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Speaker 1: What I want to do is tiny tiny pilot holes,

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Speaker 1: and I want to use screws. I want to screw

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Speaker 1: down that plank, that buckled plank, okay, into place I

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Speaker 1: would even you know, we can start with the screw

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Speaker 1: Sometimes a hardwood floor guy will say, you know what,

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Speaker 1: let's screw it and glue it, which means a tiny

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Speaker 1: injection holes along that plank in order to get a

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Speaker 1: little bit of glue underneath. But the key is we

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Speaker 1: want a real solid fastening down of that buckled area first,

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Speaker 1: and then is that going to put pressure on the

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Speaker 1: rest of the floor. Yes, Will that particular plank be

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Speaker 1: allowed to shift? No, But the point is from there

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Speaker 1: out to both in both directions. Now that you've got

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Speaker 1: the gap around the groom, you should have sufficient pressure

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Speaker 1: relief that you don't see another buckle forming anywhere else,

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Speaker 1: So pressing down on that buckle, forcing it down, and

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Speaker 1: then screwing it down into the sub floor so that

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Speaker 1: sucker who's already up has no chance of coming up again.

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Speaker 1: That will be what we call a fixed band running

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Speaker 1: through the floor that doesn't shift or move, but everything

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Speaker 1: to the left and the right of it can shift

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Speaker 1: and move back out to the wall again, and the

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Speaker 1: pressure should be relieved and compensated as it builds up again.

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Speaker 1: So as difficult as it may be, you're actually in

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Speaker 1: the best possible scenario if you can force that plank

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Speaker 1: back down. And yes, there'll be tiny, tiny little holes

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Speaker 1: across it that'll need to be filled, but that's far

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Speaker 1: better than replacing all the wood in the room and

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Speaker 1: probably won't be noticeable once it's all down, and you'll

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Speaker 1: save that floor.

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Speaker 3: It's like I said, it's the buckles about thirty feet long.

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Speaker 3: So am I going to be placing screws every couple

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Speaker 3: of feet the whole length? Is that idea?

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Speaker 2: Yep?

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Speaker 3: All the way down and we're one more thing here. Actually,

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Speaker 3: two questions for you. If I use a a ninety

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Speaker 3: degree grinder, I can I put a wooden blade on

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Speaker 3: that and cut it if you recommend me to cut

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Speaker 3: the certain blades for that. And second question and I'll stop,

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Speaker 3: is where the we're in an area we have a

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Speaker 3: fireplace that the bricks go to the floor, and they're

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Speaker 3: not they're like a like a slumpstone. They're not They're

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Speaker 3: not flat and straight. They're irregular shaped. And of course

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Speaker 3: that would mean the floor would have to be cut

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Speaker 3: on that. I'll cut a quarter inch gap along that

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Speaker 3: brick area the fireplace, But what would I use using

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Speaker 3: the quarter round isn't gonna work because the brick is

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Speaker 3: they make a flexible one where you can kind of

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Speaker 3: conform to the uh, to the cartures of the brick. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So when it comes to the brick work, that's it.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's always a trickier question. And are the

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Speaker 1: brick is the brick is the fireplace that's at the

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Speaker 1: end of the length of the boards or or across

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Speaker 1: the width of the floor like we were talking about before.

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Speaker 3: It's both. Some of the wood get into it and

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Speaker 3: some of it goes alongside it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: In that situation, uh, we may do a micro cut,

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Speaker 1: not a big quarter inch gap. And actually fill it

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Speaker 1: with the colored culk colored cock, yeah, colored woodculk that

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Speaker 1: can expand and contract and you know, hide the edge

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Speaker 1: of the floor. That's a tricky one. Sometimes we'll choose

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Speaker 1: to not make that cut there, leave that tight. As

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Speaker 1: long as there's room on the opposite side for the expansion,

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Speaker 1: it may be enough. And so from an esthetic perspective,

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Speaker 1: I may not just go ahead and you know, put

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Speaker 1: an expansion gap there, because you let enough pressure off

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Speaker 1: everywhere else it may be enough. And as far as

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Speaker 1: the blade goes, I wouldn't use a grinder. Some people

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Speaker 1: have used grinders with open blade. I would use an

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Speaker 1: oscillating saw. Okay, So invest in an oscillating What was that?

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Speaker 3: What is the oscillating saws that? I don't know what

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Speaker 3: that is?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I will you tell you what, Randy. I will

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Speaker 1: explain it on the other side of the brake. So

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Speaker 1: everybody knows what an oscillating saw is. And it's going

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Speaker 1: to take some time, but it's the cleanest, safest, totally

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Speaker 1: safest way to do that cut. And they're not very expensive,

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Speaker 1: and you know it's worth it investing in one in

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Speaker 1: order to save your floor. So you hang tight Bud

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Speaker 1: and everybody hang tight and give me a call eight

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Speaker 1: three three two. Ask Dean. It's an all call. Saturday morning.

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