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Speaker 2: Hi, Hello and welcome in to Tony Pike's Friday Football

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Speaker 2: Frenzy here on ESPN fifteen thirty. My name's Austin Elmore.

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Speaker 2: That's right, once again, know Tony Pike. He's not here,

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Speaker 2: He's in Memphis. Come on now, first Friday of the

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Speaker 2: new year. You out there working just like me. Nobody

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Speaker 2: wants to work. They want to bang on that drum

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Speaker 2: all day. I get it, I get it. Let's get

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Speaker 2: the new year started off right. Gonna be a fun

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Speaker 2: Friday Football Frenzy show for you today until three o'clock.

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Speaker 2: We'll turn things over to the Bengals pep rally. After

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Speaker 2: that Bengals final game of the season coming up Sunday

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Speaker 2: at pay Corps Stadium, up against the Cleveland Browns. You'll

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Speaker 2: hear from the quarterback of the Bengals, Joe Burrow. Five

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Speaker 2: really good minutes from Joe about this season, about next season,

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Speaker 2: about his role in the organization, and about the Cleveland

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Speaker 2: Browns and Miles Garrett coming to town. You also hear

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Speaker 2: from Jamar Chase some good stuff from the Bengals star

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Speaker 2: wide receiver. We'll get to that. We'll read and react

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Speaker 2: a little bit later on, since we haven't had a

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Speaker 2: chance to do that yet, and we're gonna go our

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Speaker 2: normal Friday guests today. Charlie Goldsmith one hour from right

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Speaker 2: now at one o'clock from Charlie Chalkboard. In Fox nineteen,

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Speaker 2: he had a really good sit down with Joe Flacco,

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Speaker 2: the Bengals backup quarterback. He also wrote a piece about

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Speaker 2: Dalton Reisner and Joseph Osai wanting to come back to Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: I'll ask him about that and maybe a couple of

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Speaker 2: Reds questions. As we inch nearer to spring training, and

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Speaker 2: what is it about a month and ten twelve days

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Speaker 2: until pitchers and catchers report. I don't know if we

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Speaker 2: have an official date on that. We'll talk to Charlie

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Speaker 2: about that, and then at two o'clock Tom gallaird Er

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Speaker 2: the voice of FC Cincinnati. We haven't checked in with

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Speaker 2: Tommy in a while, but we always do this when

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Speaker 2: the Bengals play the Browns, his Browns. I'll ask him

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Speaker 2: about that, just because I'm curious what Browns fans think

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Speaker 2: going into the offseason. And also there's been some change

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Speaker 2: at FC Cincinnati. Luca Orziano is out the door, Brenner

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Speaker 2: currently not on the squad, Dominic Kinnear, the top flight

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Speaker 2: assistant coach, has left FC Cincinnati, and they just had

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Speaker 2: the draft. So I want to know where we're at

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Speaker 2: in the offseason for FC Cincinnati and what's next for them.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to Tommy G about that as well. We've got

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Speaker 2: a football in the NATI an hour one, We've got

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Speaker 2: a football in the NATI an hour two, we got

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Speaker 2: a football in the NATI an hour three. And there

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Speaker 2: is no quick hits today, Well there is, but it's

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Speaker 2: just me for quick Hits today because Moe is also

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Speaker 2: with Tony in Memphis as a part of the Bearcats

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Speaker 2: coverage from the UH Liberty Bowl, the Liberty Bowl, and

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Speaker 2: that's our jumping off point today, not necessarily the Liberty Bowl,

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Speaker 2: but college football. I will say this five one three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. The phone lines are open. My question for

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Speaker 2: little bit later on in hour number one. Your Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: Sports New Year's resolutions, because Tony and I kind of

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Speaker 2: earlier this week. I want to know, and I've got

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Speaker 2: some already lined up Cincinnati Sports New Year's resolutions. What

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Speaker 2: all of that is a place for you to leave

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Speaker 2: your Cincinnati Sports New Year's Resolutions five point three, seven

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Speaker 2: watch them lose. I enjoyed watching Michigan lose in the

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Speaker 2: Ohio State loses two straight games after winning a bunch

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Speaker 2: The Buck Guys now zero to two winless on New

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Speaker 2: Year's Eve in history. You may remember that Georgia game

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Speaker 2: we talked about, and Georgia had a similar heartbreaker just

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Speaker 2: last night. But you know, I've seen a lot of

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Speaker 2: It seems that I've seen some vitriol towards Julian saying,

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Speaker 2: what went wrong other than Miami was just a better

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Speaker 2: And it doesn't matter who you are, if you're living

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Speaker 2: a long season for it. It's gonna be a long game.

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Speaker 2: And that's what it was for the Buckeyes. Hell, they

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Speaker 2: Max Clair and Carnell Tait that could have totally changed

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Speaker 2: that game. He threw an awful pick six on a

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Speaker 2: They had a great plan. They ran the ball effectively,

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Speaker 2: and you Carson Beck just dinked and dunked his way

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Speaker 2: I think they met my expectations, beat Michigan, get to

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Speaker 2: shape or form. Just an ugly, ugly game for Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: They did not deserve to win. Miami did and added

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Speaker 2: of the College Football Playoff. It'll be Oregon and Indiana

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Speaker 2: it'll be Old Miss and Miami. That's right, Old Miss

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Speaker 2: New Orleans thirty nine to thirty four. A last second

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Speaker 2: Georgia four and a half. Yikes. Indiana clabbered Alabama thirty

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Speaker 2: I can't remember a Rose Bowl in which the weather

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Speaker 2: But it was weird all day. They didn't let the

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Speaker 2: The flyover didn't happen until like the start of the

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Speaker 2: because of the weird weather patterns and fog and all

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Speaker 2: the actual setting. But on the field, Indiana was dominant.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think Indiana would just roll over Alabama like that.

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Speaker 2: I knew Alabama struggled to run the football, but I

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Speaker 2: thought Ty Simpson and their receivers were enough to challenge Indiana.

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Speaker 2: But they didn't. I mean, the Hoosiers look like a wagon.

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Speaker 2: And listen, I'm not a big Kurt Signetti fan. I

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Speaker 2: him that I dislike. But I have to respect the results,

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Speaker 2: and the results are he has turned Alabama, or excuse me,

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Speaker 2: turned Indiana into a wagon, a legitimate number one team

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Speaker 2: As of right now, Indiana is favored by four points

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Speaker 2: a little bit about the Bengals. Bengals hosting the Browns

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Speaker 2: But it just I don't know that this game has

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Speaker 2: Tony and I have talked about this a little bit.

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Speaker 2: you're iffy on Dalton Reisner, or if you're still wondering about, okay,

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Speaker 2: his value and how it ranks against division opponents and

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Speaker 2: a team like Cleveland doesn't matter the stakes. How does

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Speaker 2: he perform against this type of defense, these type of players,

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Speaker 2: and can that be beneficial to the offense, because if

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Speaker 2: you remember, he didn't play hardly at all in that

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Speaker 2: first game. Well, he did play, he came in like

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Speaker 2: right off the bench because Lucas Patrick, but it was

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Speaker 2: maybe an unfair look for him, and even though I

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Speaker 2: think he played okay. But here's an example of a

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Speaker 2: guy in which in this game, you're evaluating the performance

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Speaker 2: of Dalton Reisner against these players in this defense, and

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Speaker 2: if you're willing to go maybe a little bit above

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Speaker 2: and beyond to bring that guy back next year. So

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Speaker 2: while it has no value on the season and maybe

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Speaker 2: no value on the draft position or whatever however you

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Speaker 2: want to describe it, there is value in player evaluation

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Speaker 2: happening this Sunday against the Cleveland Browns. I think you

446
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Speaker 2: can still get some more out of the defense, especially

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Speaker 2: the interior of the defensive line. What are some of

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Speaker 2: those guys going to do? How are those guys going

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Speaker 2: to look? There's a lot that you can learn, I

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Speaker 2: think from a game like this. And as I said,

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Speaker 2: it's not the end all be all. This game does

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Speaker 2: not determine every decision that you make between now and

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Speaker 2: the end of the season and or now and next season,

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Speaker 2: and it shouldn't. But there are still some positives or

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Speaker 2: some perspectives I guess to take from a game like

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Speaker 2: this against the Cleveland Browns. Bengals are practicing as we

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Speaker 2: speak a little bit later on, we'll get into the

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Speaker 2: full injury report. I believe I've Chase Brown missed a

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Speaker 2: couple of days of practice this week due to an

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Speaker 2: illness which seems to be going around. It feels like

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Speaker 2: every single locker room in the NFL right now. But

462
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Speaker 2: he returned today. I'm pretty sure he's good to go.

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Speaker 2: We'll get you the rest of the injury report, including

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Speaker 2: another interesting player, a guy like Joseph Osai who also

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Speaker 2: said he wants to be back in Cincinnati and would

466
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Speaker 2: be interested as well. So a lot of moving parts

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Speaker 2: for the Bengals going into this final week of the

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Speaker 2: regular season. Phone lines are open at five point three, seven,

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Speaker 2: four nine, fifteen thirty. Looking for your Cincinnati sports resolutions.

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Speaker 2: I'll give you a couple of mine when we come back.

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Speaker 2: This is Tony Pike's Friday Football Frenzy right here on

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Speaker 2: the home of the Bengals, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 3: You've been listening to Football in the NATI on ESPN

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Speaker 3: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 3: Getting esp in fifteen thirty from iHeartRadio Betuall.

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Speaker 2: Guylers, Welcome back Tony Pike's Friday Football Frenzy here on

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty. My names Austin Nolmore, No Tony Pike Today,

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Speaker 2: big fella down in Memphis. They're Cats in the Liberty

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Speaker 2: Bowl phone lines open five one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty if you want to call in and be

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Speaker 2: a part of the show. Cincinnati Sports Resolutions. I'll get

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Speaker 2: to those in just a minute, but first let's go

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Speaker 2: to the phones. Let's go to Mike in La calling

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Speaker 2: in Mike. Happy New Year, Pal, what's up back as

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Speaker 2: your brother?

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Speaker 4: Happy New Year?

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Speaker 5: It's you and Tony and dog bless the show and

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Speaker 5: keep it rolling. Brother, Thank you for the day.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you, Thank you.

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Speaker 6: You, thanks both you guys. Well, I'll tell you what, man, dude,

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Speaker 6: I was just like the team that got in by

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Speaker 6: a millimeter ended up eating the Buckeye. I was just

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Speaker 6: I mean, how do you come out flat? I don't

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Speaker 6: tell me why the Ohio State lost that game.

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Speaker 5: I mean, Miami is obviously way better than people gave

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Speaker 5: him credit for.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think the big thing for Ohio State number one

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Speaker 2: is their offensive line was just not good enough or

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Speaker 2: maybe not great, but it felt like they were good enough.

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Speaker 2: There were some plays to be had there and because

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Speaker 2: of their struggles at other times this year, most notably

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Speaker 2: against Indiana, Julian saying just I felt like he was

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Speaker 2: seeing ghosts. He was dropping his eyes, he was not

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Speaker 2: keeping him downfield and throwing to the open receiver, and

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Speaker 2: and that just kind of mixed together and it was

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Speaker 2: a nasty, nasty loss.

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Speaker 5: Now, it just my perception was it just seemed like

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Speaker 5: Miami was way faster team, especially on the fronts.

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Speaker 2: On the Yeah, I agree with that one. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: agree with that.

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Speaker 7: It was almost noticeable.

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Speaker 5: I don't usually notice you guys might notice it. I'll

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Speaker 5: know if it's glaring. But after it kept going on

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Speaker 5: and on, I saw, come on, you guys, you got

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Speaker 5: to be faster than that, because these guys are just

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Speaker 5: going around you three. The other thing I thought was

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Speaker 5: really super cool yesterday was Indiana naming mister Coogan their

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Speaker 5: center as the MVT. How cool have you ever seen that?

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Speaker 5: I've never seen it.

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Speaker 2: I haven't. We were talking about that. The people I

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Speaker 2: was watching the game with like that, That's not something

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Speaker 2: I could ever realize. And I also didn't know that

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Speaker 2: the people in the broadcast booth, I think Fowler and

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Speaker 2: Herb Street they decide who the MVP is at the

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Speaker 2: offensive and defensive MVP. So for them to do that,

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Speaker 2: I think that says a lot.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I was just I think everybody was like, what did

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Speaker 5: he say? The center?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was cool. It was cool to see Fernando

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Speaker 2: Mendoza's reaction to that as well. He was so fired

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Speaker 2: up for his guy.

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Speaker 5: What a healthy outed two. That young man's gut. He's

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Speaker 5: the world's his oyster at this point and looks like

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Speaker 5: the Raiders are getting too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how do you feel about that?

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Speaker 5: Well, it might we might finally have some hope here.

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Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't do you think that you

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Speaker 5: I don't know about well, I can't think of the

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Speaker 5: head coach. Yeah, you think Pete's about gun It.

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Speaker 2: Kind of feels that way. I don't know if he is,

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Speaker 2: but it kind of feels that way.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it does.

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Speaker 5: Co mean too, But they got to do something because

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Speaker 5: Brady Brady even sure as hell didn't do anything. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Cincinnati sports resolutions, Well, I'm thinking, uh, until until the

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Speaker 5: season's start, respectively, next year. I'm not I'm not paying

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Speaker 5: much attention until they make it interesting for me. It's

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Speaker 5: just because it just sucks the life out of Austin. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: now you have to talk about it. You guys have

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Speaker 5: to talk.

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Speaker 2: About and you can tell some days it sucks the

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Speaker 2: life out of us.

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Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, it does. It truly does because the frustration

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Speaker 5: level and you've you've mentioned it ab nauseum about commitment

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Speaker 5: to excellence. I don't think so.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it doesn't look like I got.

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Speaker 2: To prove it.

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Speaker 5: So and now it's even filtered down into U see

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Speaker 5: you sees the outlook for football and basketball isn't very good.

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Speaker 5: And uh and Xavier at least maybe he has a

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Speaker 5: little hope, I think because of Patino senior or junior.

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Speaker 8: I mean, but.

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Speaker 5: I'm not optimistic Austin. I'm just not. I want to be.

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Speaker 5: But I told you got to prove it to.

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Speaker 2: Me, right, Yeah, that's exactly right. I see better than

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Speaker 2: I hear.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I love Marvin for that. He's not bad on

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Speaker 5: his broadcast. He's a little flat when I've heard him

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Speaker 5: on the radio. But his wisdom and his knowledge, of.

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Speaker 7: Course is you always learned a little something.

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Speaker 9: I know.

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Speaker 5: You got to go, Pal, have a great day. Thanks

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Speaker 5: for everything, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for the call, man. We'll talk to you again soon. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I haven't. I have not had a chance to hear

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Speaker 2: Marvin Lewis on the radio calls. I know that I

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00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 2: heard something similar. He's a little bit flat and has

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00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 2: some work to do on the energy, but that's no

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Speaker 2: surprise for Marvin. But other than that, the insight has

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Speaker 2: been halfway decent. Let's go out to Dell High and

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Speaker 2: talk to Tim. Tim, you're on ESPN fifteen thirty. What's up?

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Speaker 5: Hey?

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Speaker 10: Awesome, happened to get to you?

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00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 2: Likewise, hey, Uh?

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Speaker 10: The reason kawn I saw the interesting article on Facebook?

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Speaker 11: Sports Ilsa wrote.

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Speaker 10: I don't know if he saw about name a new

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Speaker 10: general manager, Mike Potts as a new general manager.

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Speaker 4: You saw that article?

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Speaker 2: I did not. I know that last year they put him,

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Speaker 2: they elevated him to the assistant general manager, but I

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Speaker 2: don't I have not seen anything about them potentially naming

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Speaker 2: him the general manager.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, if you looked it up, uh, typing out to

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Speaker 12: his name is possible. It says the bangles of closed an,

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Speaker 12: I mean a new general manager, and it just says

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Speaker 12: Mike Potts.

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Speaker 2: Okay, where'd you see that as Facebook?

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Speaker 10: Well? Yeah, I look it up.

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Speaker 2: I google it.

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Speaker 10: It's an article about it on Sports Illustrated wrote it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, what else you got for me?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 10: My sports?

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Speaker 5: Uh, since I read.

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Speaker 10: Sports soolutions, I just want to see the Reds and

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Speaker 10: the Bengals. Uh and you see, just prove just improved

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Speaker 10: and hopefully it'll be more excited to play next to season.

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Speaker 2: That makes sense to me, Tim, thank you for the

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Speaker 2: phone call.

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Speaker 13: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: That is Tim in del High quickly becoming one of

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Speaker 2: my favorite callers. Uh yeah, Mike Potts is the Bengals

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Speaker 2: assistant GM. I would not expect any uh more promotions

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Speaker 2: for anyone to be GM. That GM of the Bengals

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Speaker 2: is Katie Blackburn. She handles the contracts like that's that.

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Speaker 2: Katie is the GM uh and she's not going anywhere,

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Speaker 2: so I wouldn't expect much from that. Five point three

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Speaker 2: seven four nine fifteen thirty is the phone number. I

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Speaker 2: do want to talk a little bit about Cincinnati Sports

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Speaker 2: New Year's resolutions and speaking of the Bengals and speaking

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Speaker 2: of the scouting department, my first one that I wrote

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Speaker 2: down was I resolve if I'm the Bengals, to change

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00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 2: my draft philosophy to production being greater than traits. And

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Speaker 2: traits are really good and traits can be really good.

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Speaker 2: And I think Amarus Mims is the perfect example of

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Speaker 2: traits really quickly turning into a really good player. And

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Speaker 2: if you missed it, Earlier this week, Paul Danner Junior

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Speaker 2: wrote a really good article about the advancement in the

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Speaker 2: growth literally and figuratively of Amarius Mims into the Bengals

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Speaker 2: starting right tackle and a guy that Dan Pitcher, the

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Speaker 2: Bengals offensive coordinator, said earlier this week could end up

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Speaker 2: being the best in the world at his position. They

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00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 2: took him after he started only eight games in college.

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00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 2: The traits from a various mems are what drew them

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Speaker 2: to him. He turned it really quickly into a guy

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Speaker 2: that you can plug and play and as a dude

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00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 2: that you're gonna want to build around in the future.

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00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 2: The exact opposite end of that is Miles Murphy, a

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Speaker 2: guy that they drafted based solely on traits not as

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Speaker 2: much production in college, and it took him three years

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Speaker 2: for the light bulb to come on. And the issue

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Speaker 2: here is now that we are into twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 2: we're on the back half of this decade, and it's

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Speaker 2: only a few years from now when the contracts of

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Speaker 2: Jamar Chason T. Higgins and Joe Burrow are over. You're

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Speaker 2: gonna start talking about extensions for those guys here soon.

651
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Speaker 2: And then the other part you've got to win now,

652
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Speaker 2: so you don't have time to wait for traits to develop. Now.

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Speaker 2: It might work with Amarius Mims, and he's still very young,

654
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Speaker 2: and the Bengals it would be smart for them to

655
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 2: get him under contract an extension right away. All of that, however,

656
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Speaker 2: you can't afford to risk the traits versus production debate

657
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Speaker 2: when you are in the middle of what is supposed

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Speaker 2: to be a Super Bowl window, and when you have

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Speaker 2: the money that you have and they have a lot

660
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Speaker 2: of it, there is no excuse for waiting on the

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Speaker 2: traits to develop. So my new Year's resolution for the

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Speaker 2: Bengals would be to change your draft philosophy and put

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Speaker 2: more weight on the production of a player in college

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Speaker 2: than on their physical traits, if that makes sense, And

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Speaker 2: kind of to piggyback off of that. When you think

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Speaker 2: of the contract extension conversation, the other one is and

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Speaker 2: Tony and I talked about this earlier this week as well.

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Speaker 2: Early extensions done with your best young players. Maybe it's

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Speaker 2: DJ Turner, maybe it's Chase Brown, maybe it's a Marius Mimes,

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Speaker 2: whomever it might be. Get those extensions done early, avoid

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Speaker 2: contract drama in training camp and over the course of

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Speaker 2: the summer. Get your guys that you know are going

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Speaker 2: to be foundational pieces that you're going to build around,

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Speaker 2: get the deals done, get them into practice, and get

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Speaker 2: them going. No more nonsensical off season contract drama that

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Speaker 2: hangs over training camp and hangs over the summer and

677
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 2: hangs over the team going into the season, whether it's

678
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Speaker 2: Higgins or Chase or Hendrickson or Shamar Stewart or whomever.

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Speaker 2: We've seen way, way, way too much of that over

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Speaker 2: the last couple of years. Let's nip that in the bud.

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Speaker 2: We've got the contract, you got the cap space, you've

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Speaker 2: got the money. Let's get the early extensions done for

683
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Speaker 2: guys you know are foundational pieces. They screwed this up

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Speaker 2: with Jesse Bates, all right. Jesse Bates was a guy

685
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Speaker 2: that was clear as day. You build around him and

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Speaker 2: figure out the rest. They didn't do it. They let

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Speaker 2: him go, They let him walk. He's still producing at

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Speaker 2: a high level. Now. They've been good about some of

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Speaker 2: these in the past. Logan Wilson got an early extension.

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Speaker 2: Geno Atkins, guys like that. Now they let them drag

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Speaker 2: into August Joe Mixon, Tyler Boyd let him drag into August.

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Speaker 2: But they got those deals done. What if we get

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Speaker 2: one done before training camp? Can we get an extension

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Speaker 2: for a foundational piece done before training camp. I've got

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Speaker 2: more Cincinnati sports resolutions. I hope you do two A five, one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty is the phone number. We'll take a break,

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Speaker 2: we'll come back. We'll take your calls after that. Charlie

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Speaker 2: Goldsmith at one o'clock as well. This is Tony Pike's

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Speaker 2: Friday Football Frenzy, home of the Bengals Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: Happy Friday, Happy New Year. Welcome back to Tony Bike's

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Speaker 2: Friday Football Frenzy on Austin Elmore taking your Cincinnati sports

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Speaker 2: New Year's resolutions. Our guy Kevin and Northern Kentucky chimes in.

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Speaker 2: He tweeted at me at Audielmore a U t y

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Speaker 2: E LMRI. He said, the Bengals improve the defense to

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Speaker 2: top twenty via the draft and free agency, and for

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Speaker 2: the Reds get a power hitter and Hunter Green stay healthy.

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Speaker 2: I would love both of those. I did write down

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Speaker 2: a Hunter Green one to get to. I also have

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Speaker 2: a Joey Vado related Cincinnati sports resolutions to get to

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Speaker 2: a little bit later on as well. I missed Joey Vado.

711
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Speaker 2: What a guy. Love that dude. Hopefully we hear from

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Speaker 2: Joey soon. We're gonna hear from John in Boston right

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Speaker 2: now on the phone lines five on three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. John, what's up? Happy New Year, Happy New Year.

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Speaker 11: How are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing all right, man? What's on your mind?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 14: I think you nailed it about five minutes ago when

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Speaker 14: you're talking about how the Bengals have to be more

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Speaker 14: proactive than reactive, and you can even just look at

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Speaker 14: this past season. The Trey Hendrickson contract saga led him

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Speaker 14: coming in late. Who knows that that may have had

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Speaker 14: some say in his injury. I mean again, if you

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Speaker 14: missed training camp, you're behind the eight ball. The one

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Speaker 14: that I've always referenced as Dalton riisener. You didn't sign

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Speaker 14: him till August thirty. First, he was on the field

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Speaker 14: when Joe Burrow got injured. It was he who wasn't

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Speaker 14: able to block Eric Armstead, which led to Burrow's injury.

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Speaker 14: Who knows if he was in training camp in July

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Speaker 14: instead of the end of August. Maybe that offensive line

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Speaker 14: is more buttoned up and Joe doesn't.

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Speaker 2: Miss any time.

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Speaker 14: Let's go Pointe constantly do these types of things, and

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Speaker 14: it's really kind of frustrating because you have a ninety

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Speaker 14: one year old owner, God bless him. But if I

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Speaker 14: was a ninety one year old owner who was you know,

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Speaker 14: had plenty of money and wanted to have some sort

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Speaker 14: of legacy and win a Super Bowl and you have

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Speaker 14: the quarterback the toughest thing to find, I'd be all

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Speaker 14: in and say, look, we've got to fix whatever the

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Speaker 14: problems are here. I think you got to look at safety. Obviously,

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Speaker 14: the front seven. You need to be better in the

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Speaker 14: run game. I think the cornerbacks are good. Your offense,

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Speaker 14: you just need some depth to make sure that you

745
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Speaker 14: were able to withstand some injuries along the offensive line

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Speaker 14: and whatnot. But you're not that far away from it,

747
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Speaker 14: as we could see since Borrows come back that you know,

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Speaker 14: they've looked like a completely different team. Their defense has

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Speaker 14: even stepped up with him back on the field. But

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Speaker 14: that's the frustrating part. Just be proactive, not reactive. You

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Speaker 14: know what it's going to take to get over the top.

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Speaker 14: Why wait till August thirty first to address your offensive

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Speaker 14: line and who knows, you know, what happened with that. If,

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Speaker 14: like I said, if he's in there earlier, maybe the

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Speaker 14: quarterback doesn't get injured and the season is completely different.

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Speaker 15: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: John, that's a great point, and thank you for the

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Speaker 2: phone cam up against the clock here, And I want

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Speaker 2: to get to that. I think proactive overreactive could be

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Speaker 2: a Cincinnati sports resolution for every single team in town,

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Speaker 2: from the Bearcats in football and basketball, to the Bengals

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Speaker 2: to FC Cincinnati and so on. And the Bengals are

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Speaker 2: probably the best example of this because of everything that

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Speaker 2: John just outlined. But yeah, and you know, I I

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Speaker 2: it's hard not to think about the fact that now

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Speaker 2: we're five years since the Bengals went on that run

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Speaker 2: in the twenty twenty one season, and you blink your

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Speaker 2: eyes and it's five years and it's gone. You blink

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Speaker 2: your eyes and you're six years into Joe Burrow. Now,

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Speaker 2: last year and the way that things went south, I

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Speaker 2: could at least understand, and for the most part I did,

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Speaker 2: and in a little in some ways I bought into

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Speaker 2: the idea that last year they got unlucky and they're

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Speaker 2: gonna flip a bunch of stuff around, and I think

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Speaker 2: one of the things that we're losing sight of is

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Speaker 2: last year's Bengals. They did make a bunch of changes.

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Speaker 2: They moved on from Sam Hubbard and Von Bell and

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Speaker 2: Mike Hilton and a bunch of dudes and older, aging veterans,

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Speaker 2: and they got rid of their defensive coordinator, and they

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Speaker 2: fired their defensive line coach, and they fired their linebackers coach.

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Speaker 2: They made a bunch of changes to try to fix

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Speaker 2: the defense. They didn't work right. So now, if you're

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Speaker 2: the Bengals, they recognized last year there were issues that

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Speaker 2: needed to be resolved, and they were proactive and moved

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Speaker 2: on from guys. Now this year, do you recognize what

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Speaker 2: has gone wrong in your attempt to rebuild or refresh

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Speaker 2: or restock however you want to use it, the defense?

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Speaker 2: And what will then be your response? The Bengals don't

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Speaker 2: sit on their hands as much as they used to.

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Speaker 2: They were proactive at the end of last season, but

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Speaker 2: the plan failed. So how do you assess what went

792
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Speaker 2: wrong this year in your rebuilding of the defense? And

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Speaker 2: ignore the fact that Joe Burrow wasn't there because it

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00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. How do you figure out what went wrong?

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Speaker 2: And what do you do to react to it this offseason?

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Speaker 2: Because now you've set a standard. Okay, not good enough

797
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Speaker 2: last year, We're going to change. Okay, not good enough

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Speaker 2: this year? How will you change? That's the question, especially

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Speaker 2: if this year heads are not going to roll. We'll

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Speaker 2: take a break, we'll come back. We'll talk to Charlie Goldsmith. Next.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Hello, Welcome in our number two of Tony Pike's

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Speaker 2: Friday football Frenzy here on ESPN fifteen thirty. I Moss today,

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Speaker 2: More No Tone Today, Tone back on Monday. He is

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Speaker 2: on Liberty Bowl duty for the Bearcats and the Navy

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Speaker 2: Midshipman later this afternoon in Memphis. But the show goes

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Speaker 2: on here and we talk to our normal Friday guest,

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Speaker 2: our friend Charlie Goldsmith stopping by. Charlie, Happy new Year,

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Speaker 2: my friend, thanks for joining us for another year.

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Speaker 4: I suppose, Happy New Year, Austen, and happy new Year

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Speaker 4: to Tony and the listeners and everybody.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think there's a lot of interesting stuff

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Speaker 2: happening at pay Corpse Stadium. I thought you're you wrote

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Speaker 2: about both Dalton Reisner and Joseph Osi, and I'm fascinated

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Speaker 2: by Dalton Reisner being so upfront about the idea of like, yes,

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Speaker 2: I want to come and be a Cincinnati I want

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Speaker 2: to come back, like be a Cincinnati Bengal. I want

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Speaker 2: to come back. It's very rare to hear a player

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Speaker 2: talk like that, isn't it.

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Speaker 4: That's exactly what I said to Dalton, like that's got

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Speaker 4: to feel good to put this out there and to

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Speaker 4: be in a position or your play completely backs this up.

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Speaker 4: And it's funny too, Like I couldn't quite get this

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Speaker 4: across in my story. But when I initially asked him

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Speaker 4: about his interest in returning to Cincinnati, he spoke about

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Speaker 4: his love for the Bengals, how he wanted to be back,

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Speaker 4: how much you like the coaching staff, and then he

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Speaker 4: kind of said, like the ball is in their court.

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Speaker 4: And so to follow up, I said, I guess you

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Speaker 4: know you're you're eligible to sign an extension right now.

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Speaker 4: You don't need to wait. The Rams just signed an

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Speaker 4: extension with one of their players yesterday. I said, Dalton,

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Speaker 4: have you got to talk yet? And he followed up

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Speaker 4: saying the ball is in their court. So he's put

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Speaker 4: his cards on the table now. The big question is

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Speaker 4: a team that only was willing to spend really for

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Speaker 4: Lucas Patrick in free agency last year, has Dalton played

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Speaker 4: his way out of what they would allocate for their

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Speaker 4: guard budget. Boy, that would be a sad reality, but

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Speaker 4: that's possible, And I guess that's the big question I

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Speaker 4: have going forward for a guy who certainly, though made

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Speaker 4: a great impression the team and the coaching staff would

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Speaker 4: love on paper, to have him back.

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Speaker 2: Why wouldn't they re sign him other than the allocation

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Speaker 2: for that guard spot.

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Speaker 4: Well, why did they roll into twenty twenty five with

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Speaker 4: Ginostone that they're unchallenged unquestioned safety. Why didn't they sign

861
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 4: a pass rushing defensive tackle. You can see where I'm

862
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 4: going with it. So what they're going to be going

863
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 4: to be able to do this offseason from an ownership

864
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:51,479
Speaker 4: and a front office perspective compared to their inaction last

865
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 4: year and a way that you know we all saw

866
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 4: coming the massive holes and dangerous flag on the roster,

867
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 4: their ability to rectify that story of the off season.

868
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 4: But those are questions for Duke and Katie and Troy

869
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 4: and the Browns.

870
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 2: I know that, you know, the season doesn't really have

871
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 2: anything clearly, nothing to play for, But I do think

872
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 2: there's some interesting storylines going into this offseason that do

873
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 2: include this game against the Browns. What are you most

874
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 2: interested in when the game? As far as the game

875
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:28,760
Speaker 2: is concerned, this Sunday against Cleveland absolutely.

876
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,919
Speaker 4: One thing above all else. Are they playing to really

877
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 4: win this? And if so, what does that mean? Or

878
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 4: you know, will they put Joe Flacko in in the

879
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 4: third quarter? And you know, rotate some of the young

880
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 4: defensive backs through, Like do they do that or do

881
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 4: they fully invest in commit to this game And kind

882
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 4: of what that would signify to me was kind of

883
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 4: a continuation of the theme of like if they play

884
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 4: Burrow the whole way and really run the offense, a

885
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 4: continuation of the theme of playing Burrow in the preseason,

886
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 4: of making decisions where you're not quote unquote scared intimidated

887
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 4: by the danger in the theory that maybe Burrow could

888
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 4: you know, obviously know once that to happen, could get

889
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 4: hurt like they have in the past. Made a lot

890
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 4: of operation, a lot of decisions operating under the fact that, like,

891
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 4: you can't live your life scared and playing to really

892
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 4: win this game on Sunday would be another one of

893
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 4: those that to me would be an example of you know, yeah,

894
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 4: Burrow's going to play in the preseason next year, Burrow

895
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 4: is not going to change his style of play. They're

896
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 4: going to just keep living life and playing football kind

897
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:31,760
Speaker 4: of without some of that fear.

898
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 2: What did you make of the comments, I think it

899
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 2: was last week now I apologize. My days are all

900
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 2: running together of Al Golden in the way that he

901
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 2: talked about glowingly Geno Stone at the safety position.

902
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 4: Here's my hottest take of the offseason, we go I

903
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,240
Speaker 4: would it's not really I would love to have Geno

904
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 4: Stone back of the third safety. Put him exactly in

905
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 4: the role that he had in Baltimore. Have him be

906
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,720
Speaker 4: a veteran in a room who helps behind the scenes

907
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 4: with some of the communication and some of the football

908
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 4: IQ and tendency's stuff. Having him who say what you

909
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 4: want about Geno, he can stand in center field and

910
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 4: be a post safety because he does have a nice

911
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 4: zone awareness, but in positions where he doesn't have to tackle.

912
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 4: Having a guy like that in the room lets you

913
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 4: really get it downhill thumper. I'm gonna be calling it

914
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 4: like a nick In and Worry type, a guy who

915
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 4: can be a box safety or a slot and can

916
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 4: blitz and can be versatile, and then give you a

917
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 4: really nice, dynamic young safety duo with him and Jordan Battle,

918
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 4: whoever that magical safety ends up being with, then having

919
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 4: Geno available as a backup, I'm gonna call it like

920
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 4: the Trent Brown of safety. I like Geno in that

921
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 4: role in twenty twenty six.

922
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 2: That's interesting, how much of a reality do you think

923
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 2: that would be.

924
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 4: I mean, you saw what Al said. They know how

925
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 4: Gino's don't played this season, but they like Gino. He's

926
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 4: never been a guy who behind the scenes you were

927
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 4: hearing negative things about in terms of how he handled

928
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 4: this or how he approached this, or how he changed

929
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 4: during the No, it was like a positive behind the

930
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 4: scene season for Geno Stone and he can put him

931
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 4: out there and possible he doesn't have to tackle. That's

932
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 4: fine by me. I think the Bengals would would be

933
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 4: fine with that, and I think Geno likes being here

934
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 4: as well. And also it's not like he's about to

935
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 4: have all these teams whom to be their starting free safety.

936
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 2: That's a good point. With all that in mind, we

937
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 2: never really saw and I know Dejon Anthony was hurt

938
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 2: and Tyson Anderson never really saw much of him, never

939
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 2: really saw much of PJ. Jewles. Is that just indicative

940
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 2: of there's really no faith in those guys behind Gino

941
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 2: and Jordan as well, and that could potentially bolster the depth.

942
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just see those guys as special teamers. Frankly,

943
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 4: it's how I see those guys what they were viewed

944
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 4: as now.

945
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 5: And how have you them going forward?

946
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:58,720
Speaker 2: How much growth do you think the team has seen

947
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 2: in Barrett Carr and Demetrious Night Junior, especially over the

948
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:04,919
Speaker 2: last eight or ten weeks.

949
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 4: I talked to Mike Hodges, the linebackers coach, on Wednesday,

950
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 4: and very fascinating conversation. Like the way he looked at

951
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 4: it was and we've all seen the mistackled meat cloth.

952
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 4: It plays aloud and you don't need me to tell

953
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 4: you about that. But talking to Mike gave me some perspective,

954
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 4: like I don't know that anyone was in a tougher

955
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 4: spot than these rookie linebackers were this season, and I

956
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 4: don't know that anyone handled adversity quite as well as

957
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 4: these rookie linebackers over the course of the season. Because

958
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:39,359
Speaker 4: of that, and yes a few, I feel very good

959
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 4: that there's a role for both of them in twenty

960
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 4: twenty six. Now here's kind of how I see the

961
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 4: plan going. Sign about your linebacker. I'm gonna call him

962
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 4: the Alex Kappa of linebackers. Seven to twelve million dollars

963
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 4: in free agency. Then you sign what I'm going to

964
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 4: call the Cam Sample of linebackers. Give me a guy

965
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 4: who can do something to meet is struggled with this year,

966
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 4: which is when you need to set the edge on

967
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,240
Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage in five man fronts and also

968
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 4: can take on fullbacks because you kind of see some

969
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 4: more of those teams now one on one against the run.

970
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 4: Give me someone kind of a cam sample level player

971
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 4: who can do that. But then you know, have some

972
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 4: packages where Barrett and Demetrius each have an opportunity have

973
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 4: some some runway, especially too for if one of them pops. Yeah,

974
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 4: you know, either one of them could be a full

975
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 4: time starter in twenty twenty six. I'm not giving up

976
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 4: on each of them. I want to make sure they

977
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 4: each still have that runway. And I think that's how

978
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:36,879
Speaker 4: the Bengals view it too.

979
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 2: We talk a lot about, like, you know, all these

980
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 2: different things that need to be done on defense, whether

981
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 2: it's a safety or those linebackers like you mentioned in

982
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 2: the edge rushers. And not to get too deep into

983
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 2: the like off season bag of questions, but just on

984
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 2: the surface, looking ahead, how doable do you think it

985
00:53:55,440 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 2: is in one off season to fix these holes?

986
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 4: Funny because upset since twenty twenty three, all they need

987
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 4: to do is have an off season that was as

988
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 4: good as what they did enter in twenty twenty one,

989
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 4: and they'll be back Instiper Bowl. And of course that's

990
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 4: just much easier said than done. But there's one more

991
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 4: point I want to get across to. Here's how I'm

992
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 4: gonna view this from a defensive perspective, especially the quickest pass,

993
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 4: the most realistic past, and the past that I think

994
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 4: honestly that that they're gonna end up taking. I think

995
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 4: this is going to be the off season of the

996
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 4: defensive line. I think they're going to be more aggressive

997
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 4: on the defensive line than any other spot. Every time

998
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 4: I talk to people in that building, they talk about

999
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 4: when we prepare for an opponent. As a player, the

1000
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 4: first thing we look at is the fronts on an

1001
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,399
Speaker 4: opposing team. The things we're most worried about is their

1002
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 4: front is their pass rush. Talking about the challenges and

1003
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 4: headaches it creates when there's balance and guys who can

1004
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 4: you know, win from different spots that you know you

1005
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 4: can't just plug one hole. You have to account for

1006
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 4: multiple guys across the defensive line. For all of those reasons,

1007
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 4: there is a lot of beliefs in that building that

1008
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 4: the easiest kind of to rebuilding this defense is by

1009
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 4: being hyper aggressive on the defensive line, and my kind

1010
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,919
Speaker 4: of agreement that they should take that path is why

1011
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 4: I'm more willing to live with a young safety with

1012
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 4: Geno Stone still in the room and just one starting

1013
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 4: better linebacker, because don't want to make sure I'm keeping

1014
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 4: a lot of that powder dry for the defensive line.

1015
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 2: One of those guys you wrote about as well was

1016
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 2: was Joseph Osai. What was your takeaway there? Do you

1017
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 2: feel like you know there's maybe as much mutual interest

1018
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 2: in Joseph Osai returning and also do you think you

1019
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 2: know that his injury history would play a role in

1020
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 2: his price?

1021
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 4: His injury history spooks me, and I know it's something

1022
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 4: that's that's clearly come up in the building. I mean,

1023
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:48,919
Speaker 4: just look at even heading into this year, he wasn't

1024
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,479
Speaker 4: a guy they were willing to commit multiple years to. Yeah,

1025
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 4: both say and I don't have the numbers. I've shared

1026
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 4: them on this show. His production really took off when

1027
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 4: Henderson was hurt because that gave him, for the first

1028
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 4: time in his w a chance to rush against the

1029
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 4: left tackle on third downs, and he says, I'm way

1030
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 4: better on that side because the other side my wrist

1031
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 4: is still bothering me. This risk injury he suffered as

1032
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 4: a rookie, and that's something that he still lives with,

1033
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 4: something that he still battles through, and something that still

1034
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 4: impacts him as a player. So that combined with the

1035
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 4: fact that he's got a couple other games over the

1036
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 4: course of his career, but really the long term nature

1037
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 4: of that risk injury for defensive lineman makes me a

1038
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 4: little more nervous about Oside. But that's not taking anything

1039
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 4: away from the fact that I think he's gonna do

1040
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 4: pretty well somewhere, maybe in Cincinnati on the free agent

1041
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 4: market this season.

1042
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 2: Talking to Charlie Goldsmith, you can check him out Charlie's

1043
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 2: chalkboard on Substack. Also Fox nineteen as well. How much

1044
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 2: do you think I know the Steelers? Miles Garrett said

1045
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 2: last week that it felt like the Steelers were more

1046
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 2: worried about him than winning the game. Do you feel

1047
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 2: like the Bengals are more worried about Miles Gart than

1048
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 2: winning the game on Sunday? And should they be?

1049
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,240
Speaker 4: Here's how I view it. It would be like saying

1050
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 4: a defense is more worried about stopping Joe Burrow and

1051
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 4: Jamar Chase than beating the Bengals, Like you beat the

1052
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 4: Bengals by stopping Joe Burrow and Lamar Chase. You beat

1053
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 4: because of how much Males Garrett is worth, even from

1054
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 4: like a points per game perspective, even though technically he

1055
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 4: doesn't score. If you can tell me the Bengals are

1056
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 4: going to take out Males Garrett from the game, I

1057
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 4: would sign up for that ten times that attendant Old

1058
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 4: Cough and live with whatever other you know, ham strung,

1059
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 4: you know, ham stringing this the h that ripple effect

1060
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 4: that creates. I think what it really was last week

1061
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 4: was an Aaron Rodgers problem and a Steelers passing game

1062
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 4: problem more than oh they had some game plan because

1063
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 4: they're worried about Garrett. So I'm not a believer in that,

1064
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 4: in that ideology, and I think that that whole conversation

1065
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 4: really is to blame just the talent level on the

1066
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 4: Steelers offense more than anything kind of about how they

1067
00:57:58,840 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 4: approach the games.

1068
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 2: Do you think wins that game Sunday night between Pittsburgh

1069
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 2: and Baltimore.

1070
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 4: I hate this Steelers team, man. They're the one of

1071
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 4: my least favorite, like quote unquote good teams, and like

1072
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 4: I S'll don't quite know what they're good at. They've

1073
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 4: got a strong front, but TJ. Watson hurt. I think

1074
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 4: that secondary is extremely gettible. Their linebackers are extremely gettible. Obviously,

1075
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Speaker 4: the DK Metcalf suspension has been massive, taking away any

1076
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 4: juice their offense hat so not. Of course, the raven

1077
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 4: aren't that good either, But I just think the Steelers

1078
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 4: are a team that probably is, especially what I saw

1079
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 4: last week, playing some of its worst football right now,

1080
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 4: and it's set up to continue playing it's worse football

1081
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 4: on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: And I feel like both of those teams are kind

1083
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 2: of I don't know if saying at a crossroads is

1084
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 2: the right word, but they're just in some some difficult

1085
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 2: times when it comes to their roster and maybe some

1086
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 2: uncertainty about their future. And I feel like the Bengals

1087
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 2: and Browns, honestly from a roster standpoint. From a financial standpoint,

1088
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 2: the Browns not as much as the Bengals with the money,

1089
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 2: are in pretty good spots to be good sooner rather

1090
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 2: than later, where I feel like there's turnover for Pittsburgh

1091
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 2: and Baltimore. How do you see like the North going

1092
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 2: into the offseason Outside of just Cincinnati.

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00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,439
Speaker 4: Point with the Bengals, we always talk about losing Jesse

1094
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 4: Bates and he's the one that got away, like Baltimore

1095
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 4: may never recover in the same way from losing Mike McDonald.

1096
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 4: Like losing their defensive coordinator who then went to Seattle

1097
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 4: was a franchise identity altering loss that they have no

1098
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 4: avenue to replace. Wow, and that signif that's how I

1099
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 4: view it. I mean, look what he's doing in Seattle.

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Speaker 4: Mike McDonald's is that team. He is that system, and

1101
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 4: I think it's the best defensive system in the NFL.

1102
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 4: And Baltimore, I don't think we'll ever be able to

1103
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 4: recreate that magic they had on defense, which shut down

1104
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow. Just look at the Sam Hubbers pumble in

1105
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 4: the Juckle game. I've never seen the offense book as

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00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 4: it's ducky as it was that night. So that's Baltimore

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Speaker 4: I talked about. Pittsburgh actually didn't even realize until this

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00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 4: week just how bad of a mess Cleveland is. I

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Speaker 4: love their rookie class, but like you know, Trayon Williams

1110
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 4: is their third down back right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they.

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Speaker 4: Need a whole new offensive line. So lack a Bengals

1113
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Speaker 4: win the North and twenty twenty sixth take is probably

1114
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 4: good value right now.

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01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 2: Well, switch gears quickly for a minute or two about

1116
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 2: the Reds. I feel like it's been all quiet over

1117
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 2: there for the most part. But Nick Kral did say

1118
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 2: that that they have a little bit more money to spend.

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01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 2: I was a little bit surprised by that after they

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01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 2: made a couple of moves. Do you expect anything else

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Speaker 2: to happen between now and spring training?

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Speaker 4: I mean, just look at Nick Carl's track record publicly,

1123
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Speaker 4: I keep tracking this stuff. When he sat said they

1124
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 4: have more room to work with, and he says, we're

1125
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 4: trying to get another thing done. I bet, I bet

1126
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 4: ninety five percent of the time they get another thing done. Now,

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Speaker 4: I think the best case would literally be Austin Hayes.

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01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 4: I don't see a better option out there than Hayes,

1129
01:00:56,440 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 4: and I don't have my trade target list memorized right now,

1130
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 4: but a couple other guys kind of on that level

1131
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 4: who maybe you could swing a deal for. But I

1132
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 4: was ready to kind of say right this off season

1133
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:10,439
Speaker 4: fields done. But those comments from Nick make me feel

1134
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 4: like there's one other kind of mid range Hayes level

1135
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 4: they work on. Probably first base slash left field is

1136
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 4: where that player would would be in twenty twenty six.

1137
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 4: So I'm keeping my eyes and ears open for that

1138
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 4: move for sure.

1139
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 2: What do you think about the future of TJ. Friedel Red?

1140
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, fantastic quest Let's talk about this for like ten

1141
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 4: minutes next week. Is assassinating the Red's weakest position in

1142
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 4: their farm system. It's tied for center field and catcher.

1143
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 4: Both are terrible. So what's the future the Reds in

1144
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 4: center field? It's either Noelvie Martek and moves to center

1145
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 4: full time one day, or they and center field is

1146
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 4: one of the hardest positions to find around the league.

1147
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 4: So it's or you know, you're in you know the

1148
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 4: annual you know, let's call it the Cal Farmers Center

1149
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 4: Feelers every year once the Freedel era is over. So

1150
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 4: for those reasons, you kind of needs Friedel. Underrated season

1151
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 4: getting out. I think he was like fifteenth in baseball

1152
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 4: and OBP last year. Still useful player. He's lost some

1153
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 4: of that dynamic year. Just look at the sprint speed

1154
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 4: in the defense range. The numbers show that, but Friedel

1155
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 4: is still one of the better center fielders in the league,

1156
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 4: so it's not like the red field that they need

1157
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 4: to address it. And I think most importantly, let me

1158
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 4: say Nick Crawl confirmed Friedel is their guy with the

1159
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 4: Capitol g in Center in twenty twenty six.

1160
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 2: How excited are you to get to Goodyear.

1161
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 4: I booked my travel two days ago, so you know

1162
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 4: that the residents and all that kind of stuff, the

1163
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 4: car that's all set to go. I love spring training.

1164
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 2: I'm fired up, awesome, can't wait for that and appreciate

1165
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 2: you us making some time for me today and I

1166
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 2: have written it down center field TJ. Friedel for next week.

1167
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 2: We'll spend ten minutes on it. Sounds good to me. Dear,

1168
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 2: thank that that's Charlie Goldsmith. He's the Charlie's chalkboard on substack.

1169
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 2: You can also find him alongside Joe Daniman on Fox

1170
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 2: nineteen and elsewhere along that website and uh that TV station.

1171
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 2: You know how it guess you know how it is.

1172
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 2: You know Charlie by now all right? You also know

1173
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 2: that coming up next is Talkbacks. I'm hoping for some

1174
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 2: Cincinnati sports resolutions and lord knows what we're gonna get

1175
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 2: On the Friday after New Year's Day and New Year's

1176
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 2: Eve here on Cincy three sixty, or as it's known today,

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01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 2: Tony Pike's Friday Football Frenzy on the Home of the

1178
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 2: Bengals ESPN fifteen thirty. It's that time for talkbacks.

1179
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 17: Press the microphone and record your message or Austin and.

1180
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 2: Tone, please keep it clean and don't be mean at a.

1181
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:49,439
Speaker 18: Sprinkle sprinkle, drip drift.

1182
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 2: It's that time for talkbacks.

1183
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 4: It's our favorite part of Sincy three sixty.

1184
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 12: So Austin, buddy, play those talkbacks on your screen.

1185
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 17: At least try not to sabotage.

1186
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 11: Ah.

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Speaker 2: Yes, another segment of talkbacks here on Tony Pike's Friday

1188
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 2: Football Frenzy. And excited for this and also kind of

1189
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 2: dreading it because I'm sure there will be some Ohio

1190
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 2: State chatter. But when you lose the way they did,

1191
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 2: you just got to sit here and take it. Let's

1192
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 2: get started. This one goes out to the buck Eyes.

1193
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 19: I know when that Brian heartline blaning, that can only

1194
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 19: mean one thing. I know when that Brian heartline bling.

1195
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that can only mean one thing.

1196
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 19: All those five star recruits on the wing, but they

1197
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 19: couldn't do a single thing yeah, I know when that

1198
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 19: Brian heartline bling, that can only mean one thing. Yeah,

1199
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Speaker 19: Ever since we left the Shoe, you started losing.

1200
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 2: Game Jeremiah Smith played well.

1201
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 20: Hey there, Tony in Austin last year, after the buck

1202
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 20: Eyes lost to Michigan and Jack Soyl cried and Michigan

1203
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 20: planted the flag, we had some local politicians who tried

1204
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 20: to ban flag planting. Well, this year they lost on

1205
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 20: New Year's Eve all again. Do you think the politicians

1206
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 20: will ban New Year's Eve with the Buckeyes playing on

1207
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 20: that day?

1208
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember talking about that was one of the

1209
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 2: dumbest things ever, when the politicians worrying about flag planting. Yeah,

1210
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 2: I guess banned the Buckeyes from planting the Year's Eve.

1211
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 2: Happy New Year, Autie oof I tied rolled.

1212
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Speaker 21: You got a woodshed, you had a Red Raiders getting

1213
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 21: quacked by the Ducks. You had the Hurricanes they're storming

1214
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 21: through the Buckeyes there, guess getting revenge for two thousand

1215
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 21: and two. And you had old Miss Cajun the Dogs

1216
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 21: last night. I didn't think those last few seconds are

1217
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 21: ever going to end.

1218
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 4: In that one.

1219
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 2: Hey.

1220
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 22: Even in that.

1221
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 21: Sugar Bowl you had a shout out to the twenty

1222
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 21: ten Sugar Bowl when they were talking about great stats

1223
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 21: to take care of herbody.

1224
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 2: Happy New Year, Kevin, thank you. Yeah, tough night for

1225
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 2: your your Alabama Crimson tide there. That is that two

1226
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 2: Rose Bowls in a row that they've lost, that they've

1227
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 2: gone to and lost. Isn't they lose to Michigan a

1228
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 2: couple of years ago? And then that was Saban's last game. Yeah,

1229
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 2: tough scenes.

1230
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 9: Happy Friday, Audie. Hope you're having a good day there

1231
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 9: without Tony Pike. The show's great without him. And always

1232
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 9: enjoy hearing from you.

1233
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 11: Hey.

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01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 9: I also enjoyed watching the Oregon game the other night,

1235
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 9: good big victory, and I thought I saw that the

1236
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 9: Bengals Duke Tobin and maybe some other executives where they're

1237
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 9: at that game. Who do you know? Who do you

1238
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 9: think they were scouting? And would it be an improvement

1239
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 9: for the bank?

1240
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know the rosters well enough to

1241
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 2: give you an outline of who they might have been

1242
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 2: scouting on either one of those teams. I know that

1243
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 2: cornerback from Oregon is a beast, but he's just a

1244
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 2: true freshman, so he's not ready to come out yet.

1245
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 2: And then Texas text linebackers are all really good, so

1246
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 2: I would imagine they're looking at every defensive player possible

1247
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 2: for both teams. I know they were thinking about Derek

1248
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 2: Harmon last year. He ended up going to the Pittsburgh Steelers,

1249
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 2: who was a defensive tackle from Oregon. So they're not

1250
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 2: afraid to uh to go. It was good to just

1251
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 2: see that they were out at some of those places

1252
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 2: actually looking.

1253
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 13: Pay Audie back with the double dipper to get a

1254
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 13: little bit of normal back in my life again. Got

1255
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 13: to start bench cut for your college football style. Okay,

1256
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 13: eliminate the time off after the regular season ends and

1257
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 13: play the games weekly, move the transfer portal until after

1258
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 13: the national championship is played, or get a commissioner.

1259
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 2: M that's a good question. I'm gonna bench get a commissioner.

1260
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:56,920
Speaker 2: I'm going to cut, move the transfer portal, and I'm

1261
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 2: going to start play the games right after the regular

1262
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 2: sea and the beginning. The cause for that is because

1263
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 2: if you do that, then the transfer portal doesn't become

1264
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 2: an issue. If you get everything done by the end

1265
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 2: of the year, then the portal is not as much

1266
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 2: of an issue. So I think you can kill two

1267
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 2: birds with one stone there. I love the idea of

1268
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 2: a commissioner, but the idea of a commissioner working for

1269
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 2: all the other commissioners, I don't know if it would

1270
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:24,600
Speaker 2: ever work. And that's what scares me.

1271
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 22: Mister Gilmourrea Boy Alex and Silver Tan Man, I'm a SICKO.

1272
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 22: Have to tune in and hear you and bowling ain't easy.

1273
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 22: And the cries and the tears of your little buck eyes.

1274
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:37,760
Speaker 2: What a week this was.

1275
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 22: So I also have a rank them for you, Okay,

1276
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 22: so we are going to rank things that are back.

1277
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 2: So stranger things.

1278
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 4: Stranger things is back.

1279
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, the McRib, the mcgrib's.

1280
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 22: Always back, and the you the U is back.

1281
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 2: Baby, Well, if you ask Michael Irvin, something's back. I

1282
01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 2: don't know what's going on with Michael Irvin and him

1283
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 2: and ray Lewis on the side lies. That's when I

1284
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 2: knew we were in trouble.

1285
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 5: Uh.

1286
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 2: I'm gonna start the McRib because the McRib is a

1287
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 2: fantastic piece of food. I mean, it's just it's as

1288
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Speaker 2: good as it gets anywhere on planet Earth. Is the McRib.

1289
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:17,759
Speaker 2: I'm gonna start that. I'm gonna bench the U because

1290
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:20,679
Speaker 2: I mean they're in the final four, and I'm gonna

1291
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 2: cut Stranger Things because I've never watched a second of

1292
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 2: Stranger Things and I'm glad that it's over.

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01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 23: Tell you, honestly, as Jack everon college, I did not

1294
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 23: think Indiana was gonna come out and belt the ass

1295
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:33,639
Speaker 23: Alabama like I love seeing it. Also, I didn't think

1296
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 23: Miami was gonna come away in the Tate Martell Bowls.

1297
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 2: But you know throw, yeah, you know, the the use

1298
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 2: a good spe good place for Tate Martel. You know,

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01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:48,440
Speaker 2: if that's what you know, If they get him, that's fine. Yeah.

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01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 15: Sorry.

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01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 24: Also, I don't know if these are getting through or not,

1302
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:54,879
Speaker 24: but I hear you. My New Year's resolution for Cincinnati Sports,

1303
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 24: I really need Matt McClain to beat the McClean that

1304
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:00,720
Speaker 24: we saw a couple of years ago. I mean, they

1305
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 24: do call it a sofmore sum for a reason, and

1306
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:08,639
Speaker 24: plus coming off a devastating shoulder injury, this team functions better.

1307
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:11,640
Speaker 24: In my opinion, If Matt McClain is to McLain that

1308
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 24: we saw a couple years ago, I.

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01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 2: Would agree with that one hundred percent. That would be

1310
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:17,719
Speaker 2: pretty high up on my list of Red's resolutions as well.

1311
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 2: Even just an average season. You almost compare Matt McClain

1312
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 2: to the Bengals defense. Can you go from the worst

1313
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:26,720
Speaker 2: to league average? And if so, does that mean they're

1314
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:28,840
Speaker 2: better in one run games? I feel like it does.

1315
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Speaker 18: Hey, Austin, Jeff and New Richmond, New Year. My New

1316
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 18: Year's resolutions align with yours, definitely being more proactive than

1317
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 18: reactive as far as the franchises baseball and football. As

1318
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 18: far as college sports go, I'd like to see U

1319
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 18: see fire the athletic director and bring in somebody that

1320
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:57,879
Speaker 18: cares about sports.

1321
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:01,840
Speaker 2: That'd be great. I do want to talk about John

1322
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 2: Cunningham's letter to UC.

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Speaker 16: Fans Austin, Happy Friday, even though it doesn't feel like

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01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 16: a Friday, and.

1325
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 2: Happy New Year.

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01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:10,799
Speaker 16: I have some New Year's resolutions that I wanted to share, okay,

1327
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 16: and you're welcome to give me your.

1328
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:12,800
Speaker 2: Thoughts on him.

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01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 16: One spend less time on social media, okay. Two learn

1330
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:21,800
Speaker 16: Michael Irvin's ad routine. Three convince a billionaire to buy

1331
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 16: the Reds and four and maybe the most important one,

1332
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 16: develop a full body guardian cap style bubble for Joe

1333
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:31,880
Speaker 16: Burrow's protection because he likes me.

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01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 2: He does like bubbles. That was a funny clip that

1335
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 2: came out of him being miked up. Yeah, Michael Irvan's

1336
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:39,639
Speaker 2: in great shape, you know, for a guy who's been

1337
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 2: through what he's been through on and off the field,

1338
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 2: he is in great shape. I like that one less

1339
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:47,680
Speaker 2: time on social media. Okay, I guess that's okay, do

1340
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 2: whatever you want your life. I don't think you're gonna

1341
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:54,640
Speaker 2: get a billionaire to buy the Reds. And yeah, the

1342
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 2: Borough thing would be kind of funny. He'd be like,

1343
01:11:57,520 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 2: what was it? What was that the guy in sponge

1344
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 2: Bob was it bubble Buddy or bubble Boy? It was

1345
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 2: like his best friend for a while. I'm blanking on that.

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01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 4: Charlie.

1347
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 2: I love you, but Ginostone is not coming back.

1348
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 4: Please, Dear God, do not let Charlie be right about

1349
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:15,639
Speaker 4: that one.

1350
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 2: He did.

1351
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:19,840
Speaker 9: Nobody wants Ginostone.

1352
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 2: He did say it was a hot take, so I'll

1353
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 2: give him that. And he did say it was as

1354
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 2: the third safety, so I give him that. But my

1355
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 2: thought immediately went to, well, if one of those guys

1356
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 2: get gets hurt, we're right back in the same boat

1357
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:37,800
Speaker 2: with Gino Stone. Hurricanes are awfully fast, man, Miami look

1358
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 2: good against the buck guys. Yeah, Jeremiah Smith played played good?

1359
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 4: What was he from?

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01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 2: Yeah? Miami South FORWIDA. Yeah, that's the thing in Columbus

1361
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 2: right now. Everybody is flipping out over the idea of

1362
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 2: Jeremiah Smith leaving in the transfer portal to go to

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01:12:56,320 --> 01:13:00,160
Speaker 2: Miami and play for the U. That's in Columbus. That's

1364
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 2: all anybody is talking about right now. I think ten

1365
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 2: players have entered the portal and everybody is most concerned

1366
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 2: about Jeremiah Smith leaving, and understandably so. He is their

1367
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 2: best player by a long shot. So start bench cut okay,

1368
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 2: McClain McRib nick love, Well, I'm gonna start Matt McClain.

1369
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 2: I'm gonna buy some Matt McClain stock again even though

1370
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 2: it bit me last time. And I'm gonna take the

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01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 2: McRib number two just because the health benefits, you know,

1372
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 2: not great. And I'm gonna cut mclovin because I don't

1373
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 2: know that movie. I know who he is, but I

1374
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:40,559
Speaker 2: you know this with me, don't I don't watch the movies.

1375
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 2: All right, I'm sorry, I'm the worst. Okay, Well, take

1376
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 2: a break, we'll come back. You'll hear from Scott Saderfield

1377
01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:52,799
Speaker 2: what he had to say about the college football calendar.

1378
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Speaker 2: That's next. This is ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 25: The thought of It.

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Speaker 3: This is football in brought to you by butt Light

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Speaker 3: on ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:11,600
Speaker 2: Welcome back into Tony Pike's Friday football frenzy here on

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01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty on Austin Elbo or a little football

1384
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:17,520
Speaker 2: in the Natty for you, Let's talk college football. Bearcats

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01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:21,880
Speaker 2: are playing Navy today in the Liberty Bowl in Memphis,

1386
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 2: and I don't think anybody is really too worried about

1387
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 2: this game. I know there's some young players, especially in

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01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 2: the Bearcats secondary, that are going to get a chance

1389
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 2: to play. But Brendan Sorosby's not playing, obviously, Evan Pryor

1390
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 2: isn't playing. Apparently, right before they got set to leave

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01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 2: for Memphis, he said, I'm out, I'm going to the

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01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:47,600
Speaker 2: transfer portal. He's looking for more money, and obviously the

1393
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 2: Bearcats weren't prepared for that. And part of the reason

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01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 2: why is because they got to save some money to

1395
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:54,559
Speaker 2: find a quarterback. I don't think either of the quarterbacks

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01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 2: that are playing today are going to be guys that

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01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 2: they're going to be relying on in the future, so

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01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:02,760
Speaker 2: it goes to where are they going to find that

1399
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 2: type of quarterback. One of those is Lincoln Kinholtz leaving

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01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:09,679
Speaker 2: from Ohio State. I think that would be a potential

1401
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 2: option for Cincinnati, but I don't know how much money

1402
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 2: he's going to make. I've heard that the rumors for

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01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:19,840
Speaker 2: Brendan Soresby are north of five million dollars that he's

1404
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:21,720
Speaker 2: being offered in the portal, and there was some news

1405
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 2: about Soresby today. According to Pete Thamil of ESPN, Brendan

1406
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:31,879
Speaker 2: Soresby has visits lined up to both Texas Tech and LSU.

1407
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 2: He is set to fly to visit Texas Tech today

1408
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 2: and will go from there to Baton Rouge. According to

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01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 2: Max Olsen of ESPN, he is the number one ranked

1410
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:47,479
Speaker 2: player in the portal. Talking about Brendan Soresby, of course,

1411
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:50,160
Speaker 2: through for twenty eight hundred yards, ran for five hundred

1412
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:53,719
Speaker 2: and eighty and encountered for thirty six combined touchdowns this season.

1413
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:57,519
Speaker 2: This is his final year of eligibility in his career

1414
01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 2: seven two hundred and eight touchdown and eight yards and

1415
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 2: sixty touchdowns in his career, of course, beginning at Indiana

1416
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 2: so Soresby going to visits at Texas Tech and LSU. Now,

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01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 2: we've talked about the idea of him going to Texas

1418
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 2: Tech before. I believe it was his girlfriend that just

1419
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:22,280
Speaker 2: committed to play volleyball there. He's from the state of Texas.

1420
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:25,799
Speaker 2: It feels like, especially if you watch Texas Tech offense

1421
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 2: on Sunday or on Wednesday. What day was that? Yes

1422
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 2: was it yesterday? Yesterday? Against Oregon, they could use a

1423
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:40,679
Speaker 2: quarterback that can do a little bit more. I wonder

1424
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 2: if the idea of him going to LSU is simply

1425
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 2: to up the price a little bit at Texas Tech.

1426
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:51,720
Speaker 2: That's what I wonder. Now there's also been rumors of

1427
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 2: Trinidad what's his name, Chambliss. I don't know. I don't

1428
01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:57,519
Speaker 2: know how to say that guy's name. I don't follow LSU.

1429
01:16:57,560 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 2: I don't follow ole Miss all that close either way,

1430
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 2: that dude potentially coming to LSU to follow Lane Kiffin.

1431
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of stuff going on when it

1432
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:09,759
Speaker 2: comes to the transfer portal and the guys taking visits

1433
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 2: and re signing contracts and whatnot. But Brendan Sotrees be

1434
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 2: visiting with Texas Tech today and then set to go

1435
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 2: to LSU. Earlier this week, Scott Saderfield met with the

1436
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 2: media for his press conference ahead of tonight's Liberty Bowl

1437
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 2: against Navy, and he was asked the same question that

1438
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 2: a lot of college football coaches are being asked. It's

1439
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:36,559
Speaker 2: about the college football calendar. Take a listen to what

1440
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:39,679
Speaker 2: the Bearcat head coach Scott Saderfield had to say.

1441
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:41,839
Speaker 26: Yeah, I think the playoffs.

1442
01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 27: This is awesome and I'd be a proponent of the

1443
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 27: playoff system happening soon.

1444
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 28: I don't like the fact that the playoff system some

1445
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 28: of these teams are waiting thirty days to play a game.

1446
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:53,720
Speaker 26: I think they should all be in December. I think

1447
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 26: they should all.

1448
01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 27: End with the national championship right around the first of January.

1449
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 26: The poor opens up the second, so now we can

1450
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:01,759
Speaker 26: move on to the next season.

1451
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 2: You know, we're we're playing these bowl games, you know

1452
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:04,839
Speaker 2: in January.

1453
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:08,200
Speaker 27: These playoffs are going to late January. You know, it's

1454
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 27: just not very the calendar does fit. In my opinion,

1455
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 27: it's a it's a crazy time with the way that

1456
01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:16,840
Speaker 27: calendar is shaping out now. I think you should change

1457
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:18,840
Speaker 27: the portal data. It's to me, it should be at

1458
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 27: the end of the spring semester, it should be you know,

1459
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:21,639
Speaker 27: more March or April.

1460
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:24,559
Speaker 28: That way interfere with anything in the bowl games, Like

1461
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:26,640
Speaker 28: we don't need to mess with the bowl games, you know,

1462
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 28: pushing the portal back into March and April so all

1463
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:33,360
Speaker 28: US coaches and players can have a full experience and then.

1464
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:35,599
Speaker 29: We can worry about where we're going to the next season,

1465
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 29: you know, or we're going to stay with our team.

1466
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:37,760
Speaker 30: We're not say it.

1467
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:39,360
Speaker 26: For us last three weeks we're going to be with

1468
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 26: all our players.

1469
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:41,800
Speaker 29: We're figuring out who's staying and who's going, what's your

1470
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 29: negotiations looking like, and all those type things, as well

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01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 29: as gathering names for portal.

1472
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:48,719
Speaker 27: And then now the portal has opened up in January second,

1473
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 27: and you know, as soon as our game is over,

1474
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 27: we're flying back and we'll have ten or twelve guys

1475
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:53,759
Speaker 27: in our camps on the third.

1476
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 26: We are constrained on the game.

1477
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:55,800
Speaker 2: Don't get it wrong.

1478
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:58,680
Speaker 13: We have an army of recruiters and our staff that

1479
01:18:58,920 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 13: they will not be at the game.

1480
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 27: It will be back in cincin that and they're getting

1481
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:03,360
Speaker 27: prepared to bring recruits in.

1482
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:05,800
Speaker 26: But this is the reality of the calendar of where

1483
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 26: we're at.

1484
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:07,800
Speaker 2: Man, Now, that's why it needs to be tweaks and

1485
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:08,599
Speaker 2: needs to be changed.

1486
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 27: We need to have some parameters with what's happening right now,

1487
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 27: because what's going on right now in college ball is

1488
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 27: not sustainable.

1489
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:15,679
Speaker 2: It is one hundred percent not sustainable.

1490
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 27: When you ask any coach in the country and they're

1491
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:18,240
Speaker 27: going to tell you the same thing.

1492
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 8: I keep hearing it.

1493
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 27: Over and over and over now, and basketball coaches are

1494
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:22,960
Speaker 27: doing the same thing as well.

1495
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:24,160
Speaker 26: You know what's going on there.

1496
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:26,639
Speaker 2: So we need somebody to step up with leadership when it.

1497
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:28,360
Speaker 26: Comes to that and really try to get a hold

1498
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:28,599
Speaker 26: of it.

1499
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:31,080
Speaker 27: So, because we got a great thing going man, the

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01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 27: college football is awesome to do it, it's hard to

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01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 27: beat it, and so let's.

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01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 29: Continue to make it better and just get some great

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01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 29: leadership within this board.

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01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 2: He's right, I think there needs to be leadership. We

1505
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:44,599
Speaker 2: brought up the idea earlier of a commissioner. I don't

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01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 2: know what that would look like, and I don't know

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01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:51,200
Speaker 2: that you're ever going to make everyone happy. And also

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01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 2: finding a commissioner would mean that the commissioners of the

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01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:57,559
Speaker 2: conferences would in some way, shape or form have to

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01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:01,720
Speaker 2: relinquish some power, and that I don't think is ever

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01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:05,759
Speaker 2: going to happen. I think the SEC and the Big

1512
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 2: Ten and their commissioners, they're never gonna want to relinquish

1513
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 2: the power that they have over the TV networks, over

1514
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 2: the sport itself, and they're certainly not going to try

1515
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:21,599
Speaker 2: to do anything that would hurt their own conference. The idea, though,

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01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:26,759
Speaker 2: about the calendar being fixed, feels like that's not something

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01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 2: that really should require or would get a lot of

1518
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:34,639
Speaker 2: pushback because Scott's right, Like, if you listen to any

1519
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:37,679
Speaker 2: college football coach over the last three weeks, they've all

1520
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:41,559
Speaker 2: said some form or fashion of what Saderfield just said,

1521
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:45,839
Speaker 2: which is move the games up, play them in December,

1522
01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 2: and then get the season over with by the first

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01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 2: of the year so that the portal can then open

1524
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:54,400
Speaker 2: and we can start new right after that. It is

1525
01:20:54,640 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 2: ridiculous that the National Championship game is not until January nineteenth,

1526
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 2: Like that is insane. And then once you get the

1527
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:05,680
Speaker 2: portal or you can do like the coaching carousel and

1528
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:07,840
Speaker 2: you get into spring ball and all of it, like

1529
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 2: come up with a schedule that makes more sense, a

1530
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:15,280
Speaker 2: calendar that makes more sense, and you can become more

1531
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:19,040
Speaker 2: relevant if you're able to have a calendar each year

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01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:21,840
Speaker 2: where everyone knows what to expect, when to expect it,

1533
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:25,840
Speaker 2: and so on. Like for example, there's been a lot

1534
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 2: of talk about the NFL like taking saturdays from college football. Well,

1535
01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 2: the reason for that is because college football has allowed

1536
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:34,880
Speaker 2: them to take saturdays because they don't play meaningful games.

1537
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 2: They just don't. And so if you say, we don't

1538
01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:42,680
Speaker 2: care about the NFL, We're gonna play our games on Saturdays,

1539
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 2: We're gonna play our games on Fridays, whatever it might be.

1540
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:47,280
Speaker 2: We're gonna play these college football playoff games in the

1541
01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:49,679
Speaker 2: month of December. We'll finish it up at New Year's

1542
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:51,760
Speaker 2: Eve and New Year's Day or however it is. The

1543
01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:55,879
Speaker 2: portal will open after that. You go straight from college

1544
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:59,480
Speaker 2: football playoffs and everyone being excited about that to boom

1545
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:03,519
Speaker 2: basically free agency. That's a little bit different than the NFL.

1546
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:08,679
Speaker 2: The NFL goes from Super Bowl happens to two weeks off,

1547
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 2: and then the combine happens, and then free agency happens.

1548
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:18,240
Speaker 2: You can just stay in the news cycle if that's

1549
01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 2: something that matters, you can stay in the news cycle

1550
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:25,600
Speaker 2: the entire time. You can parley that into college football playoffs,

1551
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 2: into portal, into coaching carousel, if it's still happening at

1552
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 2: that point, into spring ball, into however you want to

1553
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:36,360
Speaker 2: do it, schedule announcements. However, like there is a path

1554
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:39,439
Speaker 2: to mirror the NFL. And I've said this for a

1555
01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:42,160
Speaker 2: long time, college football should be doing everything in their

1556
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:46,040
Speaker 2: power to try to mirror the National Football League because

1557
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 2: the NFL and the way they do business works. Their

1558
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:53,800
Speaker 2: TV money is outrageous, their revenue sharing is outrageous. They

1559
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 2: dominate the headlines. They have these tent pole events month

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01:22:57,400 --> 01:23:00,639
Speaker 2: after month after month. There's something going on in the NFL, really,

1561
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:02,599
Speaker 2: except for the month of June, and even then there's

1562
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:06,799
Speaker 2: OTA's happening. There's something going on in the NFL. College

1563
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:09,720
Speaker 2: football can do the same thing. They can dominate the

1564
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:12,840
Speaker 2: news cycle, they can create buzz, they can constantly be

1565
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:19,080
Speaker 2: talking about this. And it just feels like nobody in

1566
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:22,680
Speaker 2: college football is willing to put the ego aside for

1567
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 2: what's best for the sport, and they're too near sighted

1568
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:30,360
Speaker 2: and worrying about giving up power or worried about giving

1569
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 2: up positioning or whatever it might be, instead of thinking

1570
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 2: about the long term growth of the sport in a

1571
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 2: way to make it sustainable for a long time, in

1572
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:41,680
Speaker 2: a way that makes sense. It feels like we're so

1573
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:44,680
Speaker 2: far away from that with college football. I don't know

1574
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 2: how we could possibly get back. We'll take a break,

1575
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:49,960
Speaker 2: we'll come back. This is Tony Pike's Friday Football Frenzy

1576
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:51,639
Speaker 2: on ESPN fifteen thirty.

1577
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:56,320
Speaker 3: You've been listening to Football in the Natti on ESPN

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01:23:56,479 --> 01:24:00,080
Speaker 3: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bay th.

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Speaker 1: WCKY Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: Tony Pike Friday Football Frenzy, ESPN fifteen thirty. I'm Austin Elmore.

1581
01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 2: Got time for a phone call before we go into

1582
01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:26,480
Speaker 2: our number three. We'll get an update on FC Cincinnati.

1583
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:28,880
Speaker 2: We'll talk to the voice of the Orange and Blue,

1584
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:32,760
Speaker 2: Tom Gallairder see what the latest is on FC Cincinnati,

1585
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:35,320
Speaker 2: and gotta of course get his thoughts on the Browns,

1586
01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 2: his Cleveland Browns. Will talk to Tommy about that as well.

1587
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 2: But first time for a phone call. Let's go to Sharonville.

1588
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:43,559
Speaker 2: Talk to Greg. What's up Greg?

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01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 15: Well, First of all, Austin, happy New Year, and I

1590
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:49,599
Speaker 15: hope you have a great year.

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01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:50,200
Speaker 7: I really do.

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01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 2: Likewise, my friend, thank you very much. What's up.

1593
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 15: Thank you. Okay on the Buck guys. You know I've

1594
01:24:56,120 --> 01:25:00,640
Speaker 15: been a loyal Buck guy since in the sixth and

1595
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 15: I'll tell you, well, maybe because I'm older, Thursday was

1596
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:07,960
Speaker 15: as tough as it gets for me. And here's here's

1597
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 15: the problem. In fact, I wasn't sure you're even going

1598
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 15: to be in today and I couldn't. I didn't get

1599
01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 15: to the show at a quarter after, so I didn't

1600
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:17,680
Speaker 15: hear your assessment. So that's what I want to hear,

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01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 15: if you don't mind repeating repeating that. But what I

1602
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:25,560
Speaker 15: felt was it's you know, they just came out like, yeah,

1603
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:29,559
Speaker 15: this is a GIMMI and we just show up and

1604
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:32,840
Speaker 15: we went and to me, that's why they played. I

1605
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:35,720
Speaker 15: felt they played flat the whole first half. I know

1606
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 15: there was a mistake. So anyway, what I really want

1607
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 15: to hear, because I missed the show, I want your

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01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:43,800
Speaker 15: assessment of our Buck eyes.

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01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:46,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, Greg, I think you're right. There was

1610
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 2: a little bit of flat. I think at times it

1611
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 2: felt stale, and more than anything, they were dominated up front,

1612
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:56,679
Speaker 2: and so being dominated up front on the offensive line

1613
01:25:56,840 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 2: led to Julian saying dropping his eyes seeing ghosts, not

1614
01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:04,640
Speaker 2: really standing in the pocket, not standing in there and

1615
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 2: delivering a strike down the field. He missed wide open

1616
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:10,200
Speaker 2: touchdowns to Max Claire, missed a wide open touchdown to

1617
01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:15,360
Speaker 2: carneval Tait. And because of his his I feel like

1618
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:19,479
Speaker 2: just jittery and happy feet in the pocket. He was

1619
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:22,720
Speaker 2: just afraid of the pass rush and wasn't operating the

1620
01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:25,000
Speaker 2: offense as well as it could have. And then on

1621
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:27,880
Speaker 2: defense because they kind of got man handled up front

1622
01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 2: as well. Miami was living in third and manageable on

1623
01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 2: third down all game long. And when you're in that case,

1624
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 2: it doesn't take much, even if you have a really

1625
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 2: good defense, it doesn't take much to keep the chains,

1626
01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:41,880
Speaker 2: you know, moving and keep the clock running. They were

1627
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:44,680
Speaker 2: efficient in the run game. Carson Beck wasn't crazy. He

1628
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 2: used his legs when he needed to and kept the

1629
01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:49,760
Speaker 2: Ohio State defense on the field the entire night. It

1630
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:52,920
Speaker 2: was just they were better. They were just better up front,

1631
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:55,000
Speaker 2: and that matriculated through the entire team.

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01:26:56,720 --> 01:27:01,560
Speaker 15: Don't agree more, don't agree more, And I repeat, I

1633
01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:05,040
Speaker 15: appreciate you repeating that again. Like I said, I turned

1634
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 15: a show on a yeah one good day and oh Jesus,

1635
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 15: Austin's here today and so forth. But anyway, I do

1636
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 15: appreciate that, and as usually you're doing a great job.

1637
01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Greg. I appreciate it, man, and have

1638
01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:21,000
Speaker 2: a great day you too. Thanks Austin. That is Greg

1639
01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:24,240
Speaker 2: in Sharonville. Phone lines will reopen five on three seven,

1640
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:27,360
Speaker 2: four nine, fifteen thirty after talked to Tom Gallader, the

1641
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:29,880
Speaker 2: voice of the Orange and Blue, and I want to

1642
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:33,640
Speaker 2: know your Cincinnati sports were New Year's resolutions? What do

1643
01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 2: you got? What do you got? I've got some more,

1644
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:38,439
Speaker 2: including one about Joey Vado that we'll get to an hour.

1645
01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 2: Number three. This is Tony Pike's Friday Football Frenzy Home

1646
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:44,400
Speaker 2: of the Bengals. ESPN fifteen thirty.

1647
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1655
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Speaker 2: Two hours down. One to go here on Tony Pikes

1656
01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:31,280
Speaker 2: Friday Football Frenzy. Here on ESPN fifteen thirty No Tony

1657
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 2: Pike Today. Tony getting set for two and a half

1658
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:37,760
Speaker 2: hours from right now the Bearcats and the Midshipman in

1659
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:41,600
Speaker 2: the Liberty Bowl. Ton'll be back on Monday. In the meantime,

1660
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:44,600
Speaker 2: we go to our normal Friday guest. It's been a

1661
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:46,800
Speaker 2: little while since we've talked to him. We've given him

1662
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:48,600
Speaker 2: some time off, but the new year is here and

1663
01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:51,360
Speaker 2: he said, I want to be on the show. I said,

1664
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:53,040
Speaker 2: I want to have you on the show. It's our

1665
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:56,240
Speaker 2: friend Tommy g the voice of FC Cincinnati, joining us now.

1666
01:28:56,320 --> 01:29:01,320
Speaker 2: Hi tom Friday, two pm. Happy New Year, Austin.

1667
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:05,840
Speaker 28: It is so good things feel right again to be

1668
01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 28: sitting in this time slot back chatting with you as

1669
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:11,880
Speaker 28: we kick off a new year.

1670
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:13,880
Speaker 2: How was your holiday? You know what, it was good.

1671
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:16,760
Speaker 2: It was nice to get some quality time with the

1672
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 2: friends and the family. I have two questions for you

1673
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:21,680
Speaker 2: that aren't anything to do with sports. Number one, did

1674
01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:24,320
Speaker 2: you get a new phone? Because you sound crystal clear?

1675
01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:27,640
Speaker 2: And also, some AI agent screened my call when I

1676
01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:30,120
Speaker 2: called you and number two, did you make any New

1677
01:29:30,160 --> 01:29:31,080
Speaker 2: Year's resolutions?

1678
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:32,000
Speaker 6: Uh?

1679
01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:35,040
Speaker 28: Yes, I did get a new phone, so maybe that is,

1680
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:39,200
Speaker 28: you know, obviously improvement of quality. Yes, it's important for

1681
01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:41,000
Speaker 28: me here if we're going to do this every Friday

1682
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:43,479
Speaker 28: at two o'clock, I have to bring my a game

1683
01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 28: every day.

1684
01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:45,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. And if I'm not doing that, then then what

1685
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:46,200
Speaker 2: are we doing?

1686
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:48,880
Speaker 28: So I'm trying to provide you guys with the highest

1687
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 28: quality audio possible for you know, the fifteen minutes or

1688
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:54,200
Speaker 28: so that I get to spend with you.

1689
01:29:54,479 --> 01:29:55,880
Speaker 2: I don't know about the AI. I'm going to look

1690
01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:58,280
Speaker 2: into that and make sure that you have a direct line.

1691
01:29:58,320 --> 01:29:59,320
Speaker 2: Like that's ridiculous.

1692
01:29:59,320 --> 01:30:02,120
Speaker 28: You should be ringing through any time of day, even

1693
01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:03,360
Speaker 28: if I do not disturb.

1694
01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:05,960
Speaker 2: So what was the second part I could plete? Oh

1695
01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:11,240
Speaker 2: new Year's resolution? Yes, man, just listen.

1696
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:13,760
Speaker 28: Just to be the better best version of myself in

1697
01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:18,240
Speaker 28: every way possible, right. I think it's easy to be like, oh,

1698
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:18,719
Speaker 28: I need.

1699
01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:20,080
Speaker 2: To lose weight or whatever.

1700
01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:23,320
Speaker 28: I could certainly stand to do some of that, you know, Like,

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01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:26,040
Speaker 28: but uh, you know, be the best version of myself

1702
01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:28,120
Speaker 28: in every possible way. That's as a as a husband

1703
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:30,559
Speaker 28: and as a parent, as a business owner as a

1704
01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:33,160
Speaker 28: play I playboy as a friend, and you know, hopefully

1705
01:30:33,160 --> 01:30:34,559
Speaker 28: on the way I'm going to read a few more books.

1706
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:37,599
Speaker 28: I'm uh, I'm working through one right now about Liam Brady,

1707
01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:42,600
Speaker 28: a legendary Irish footballer. So you know, just got to

1708
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:44,080
Speaker 28: study up and it gives me more to talk about

1709
01:30:44,160 --> 01:30:45,599
Speaker 28: dinner with Kevin once the season starts.

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01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:47,559
Speaker 2: So that's good. I was gonna say, maybe the aver

1711
01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:50,120
Speaker 2: routine for when Kevin starts taking some shots at you

1712
01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:52,280
Speaker 2: and the big goals exactly exactly.

1713
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:55,280
Speaker 28: So it's just these are all the things, uh, you know,

1714
01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:59,560
Speaker 28: little things, the better yourself without putting you know, one specific,

1715
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:03,080
Speaker 28: you know, sure bullet point or one in bold. I

1716
01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:05,000
Speaker 28: just just want to be better at everything. Makes a

1717
01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:07,439
Speaker 28: lot of sense now. A lot has happened since we

1718
01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:11,080
Speaker 28: last talked, Yeah, including the word stale coming out of

1719
01:31:11,120 --> 01:31:14,559
Speaker 28: the mouth of Chris Albright, the FC Cincinnati GM. He

1720
01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:18,519
Speaker 28: had his like state of the Union conversation with the

1721
01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:20,880
Speaker 28: media I think was over thirty minutes a couple of

1722
01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:23,559
Speaker 28: weeks ago. I know that was a couple of weeks ago,

1723
01:31:23,600 --> 01:31:25,720
Speaker 28: But when you think back on it, what did we

1724
01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:29,400
Speaker 28: learn about FC Cincinnati and the direction that they will

1725
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:32,320
Speaker 28: be going this offseason from Chris Albright in the move

1726
01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:35,439
Speaker 28: that have maybe happened since then. Yeah, I mean, I

1727
01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:38,639
Speaker 28: think in many ways, you know what I love about

1728
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:41,840
Speaker 28: Chris and what he does annually and sometimes you know,

1729
01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:44,600
Speaker 28: more often than that, he'll meet with the media and he,

1730
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:47,559
Speaker 28: you know, it was pretty frank about his thoughts on

1731
01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:50,160
Speaker 28: where the teams at, where the season's at, and all

1732
01:31:50,240 --> 01:31:51,840
Speaker 28: those kind of things. And I think that's what he

1733
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:55,960
Speaker 28: provided two weeks ago, right before the Christmas holiday, you know,

1734
01:31:56,240 --> 01:32:00,280
Speaker 28: and sharing his words and certainly his disappointment in the

1735
01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:02,760
Speaker 28: way that the season went. And you know, I think

1736
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:06,639
Speaker 28: that he felt like the team underperformed, particularly at home.

1737
01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:08,960
Speaker 28: But that's nothing different than you and I thought, or

1738
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:11,839
Speaker 28: the fans thought, or bat Nowton thought, and probably the players.

1739
01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:15,000
Speaker 28: So I think there's an alignment as far as hall

1740
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:17,000
Speaker 28: it went. Its not like people are walking away saying, man,

1741
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 28: that was a great season and others are saying, wait,

1742
01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:21,240
Speaker 28: hold on, it was stale.

1743
01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:24,040
Speaker 2: I think it was a fair assessment.

1744
01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:26,040
Speaker 28: In in that there was a lot of investment and

1745
01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:28,320
Speaker 28: a lot of hope for what this team could do.

1746
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:31,160
Speaker 2: And I think you know that they had a lot

1747
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:32,639
Speaker 2: of the right pieces just.

1748
01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:34,840
Speaker 28: Weren't able to put them together to get to the

1749
01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:38,640
Speaker 28: promised Land, and obviously ran into a Miami team.

1750
01:32:37,880 --> 01:32:39,840
Speaker 2: That was red hot at the right time and went

1751
01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:41,080
Speaker 2: on to lift him the US Cup.

1752
01:32:41,200 --> 01:32:46,360
Speaker 28: So I think in the end, it's continuing to fine

1753
01:32:46,640 --> 01:32:51,280
Speaker 28: tune where the roster is at. And there's a couple

1754
01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:54,480
Speaker 28: of holes now that will need you know, evaluation and assessment.

1755
01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:57,960
Speaker 2: Because the guys report here in about eight days I

1756
01:32:57,960 --> 01:32:59,160
Speaker 2: think it is. I think eight days.

1757
01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:02,000
Speaker 28: I think next weekend guys report back, so you know

1758
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:04,240
Speaker 28: they're gonna be going undergoing physicals and everything, getting ready

1759
01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:04,360
Speaker 28: to go.

1760
01:33:04,360 --> 01:33:07,479
Speaker 2: Down to Florida. So you know, not much time here.

1761
01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:10,800
Speaker 28: But listen, Chris is Chris is always working, you know,

1762
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:14,760
Speaker 28: every angle and every salary cap, you know, mechanism to

1763
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:16,720
Speaker 28: make sure that he's gonna put his team in the

1764
01:33:16,760 --> 01:33:18,240
Speaker 28: best position to be successful.

1765
01:33:18,280 --> 01:33:21,439
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty six, you mentioned a couple of holes

1766
01:33:21,439 --> 01:33:23,439
Speaker 2: and pieces that need to be filled. There was a

1767
01:33:23,479 --> 01:33:26,160
Speaker 2: report just the other day Luca or Ziano going to

1768
01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:31,360
Speaker 2: Monterey to play in Mexico. It seems like Brenner, he's

1769
01:33:31,439 --> 01:33:34,360
Speaker 2: gone back to you andese, what is the status of

1770
01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:37,600
Speaker 2: that and do you expect those like when what I

1771
01:33:37,640 --> 01:33:40,320
Speaker 2: guess what's a fair timeline to expect those holes to

1772
01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:40,839
Speaker 2: be filled.

1773
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:45,840
Speaker 28: Yeah, the Brenner you know situation. Unfortunately, you know, despite

1774
01:33:45,880 --> 01:33:49,120
Speaker 28: the way he performed, there was just nowhere to fit

1775
01:33:49,240 --> 01:33:51,840
Speaker 28: him on the roster, considering that he would have had

1776
01:33:51,880 --> 01:33:54,240
Speaker 28: to become a DP again, do you remember who's on

1777
01:33:54,320 --> 01:33:56,920
Speaker 28: loan for the sixth regular season games for playoff games

1778
01:33:56,920 --> 01:33:59,800
Speaker 28: that he played, you know, and did really well and

1779
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:04,240
Speaker 28: obviously provided those magical moments against Columbus in Game three

1780
01:34:04,240 --> 01:34:07,599
Speaker 28: of the first round to advance the team. I think

1781
01:34:07,640 --> 01:34:09,640
Speaker 28: they would have loved to keep him and see what

1782
01:34:09,680 --> 01:34:11,280
Speaker 28: it would have looked like, but without a deep piece

1783
01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:13,679
Speaker 28: a lot available, you know, that was a non starter.

1784
01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:16,040
Speaker 28: And the team posted there, you know, thanks to him,

1785
01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:18,559
Speaker 28: And we'll see where it kind of washes out on

1786
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:21,800
Speaker 28: what the plan is, you know, for Brenner, if if

1787
01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:25,920
Speaker 28: Udnesse moves him on, or if something else happens. But

1788
01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:29,240
Speaker 28: but certainly, you know, I think it tied a bow

1789
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:32,799
Speaker 28: on his tenure with f C Cincinnati that was incomplete

1790
01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:34,800
Speaker 28: when he left, and and maybe a little bit of

1791
01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:37,519
Speaker 28: a bad taste in people's mouths, and you know, I

1792
01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:40,040
Speaker 28: think people think differently of him now than maybe they

1793
01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:43,240
Speaker 28: did when he departed, and that's a great thing, you.

1794
01:34:43,200 --> 01:34:46,640
Speaker 2: Know, the local arsenal doo. Obviously, nothing seems to have

1795
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:47,160
Speaker 2: been finalized.

1796
01:34:47,160 --> 01:34:49,200
Speaker 28: I think I read the reports yesterday that that he's

1797
01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:52,479
Speaker 28: there for physical this week or so. And you know,

1798
01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:54,599
Speaker 28: if if that's a good piece of business for the club,

1799
01:34:54,680 --> 01:34:55,880
Speaker 28: then then that's great.

1800
01:34:56,120 --> 01:34:57,360
Speaker 2: And you know, I'm.

1801
01:34:57,160 --> 01:35:00,439
Speaker 28: Sure that it's coming with a return fiscally u for

1802
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:02,880
Speaker 28: the franchise. But now it leaves Chris with a hole

1803
01:35:02,920 --> 01:35:06,640
Speaker 28: on the left side as far as his wing back

1804
01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:10,160
Speaker 28: position is concerned, because Lucas Engle's loan is over. That

1805
01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:12,200
Speaker 28: was not you know, there was no purchase that worked

1806
01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:14,519
Speaker 28: out with Middlesborough or anything like that. So he's returned

1807
01:35:15,200 --> 01:35:17,360
Speaker 28: to England and we'll figure out what his role is

1808
01:35:17,680 --> 01:35:21,120
Speaker 28: over there. But no Lucas Angle, no Luca or Son.

1809
01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:23,720
Speaker 28: Oh and all of a sudden you're thinking, okay, who's

1810
01:35:24,280 --> 01:35:27,439
Speaker 28: who's your left wing back? And and if you're starting today,

1811
01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:30,639
Speaker 28: you know you don't have a true left wing back

1812
01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:34,160
Speaker 28: to play over there necessarily. So there's been some reports

1813
01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:37,599
Speaker 28: dancing around and nothing firm yet. I'd imagine this week,

1814
01:35:38,439 --> 01:35:40,679
Speaker 28: you know, as they get closer to that report date,

1815
01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:43,840
Speaker 28: we'll we'll start to see things come together in that

1816
01:35:43,920 --> 01:35:47,519
Speaker 28: regards as to at least one person being signed. But

1817
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:50,479
Speaker 28: I would imagine that Chris ends up signing to two

1818
01:35:50,520 --> 01:35:52,800
Speaker 28: wing back positions. They brought out his powerback, so he

1819
01:35:52,840 --> 01:35:55,160
Speaker 28: provides some deaths over on the right side where indrets,

1820
01:35:55,160 --> 01:35:58,280
Speaker 28: and he obviously flourished after he came on on the

1821
01:35:58,320 --> 01:35:59,000
Speaker 28: summer signing.

1822
01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:01,560
Speaker 2: I think center backs, they're in great shape. Teenage a

1823
01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:02,160
Speaker 2: Aby is.

1824
01:36:02,120 --> 01:36:04,160
Speaker 28: Back, I was Nick Caglin's back, and the ass is

1825
01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:07,600
Speaker 28: back HILBERTA Flores and then Miles Robinson is now on

1826
01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:10,960
Speaker 28: a DP deal, So you know, everybody's back there, you know,

1827
01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:14,439
Speaker 28: with with great depth. Midfield is stacked, and then I

1828
01:36:14,439 --> 01:36:16,479
Speaker 28: think up front now is where they're gonna have to

1829
01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:19,640
Speaker 28: assess at that forward position. You know, they ended up

1830
01:36:19,680 --> 01:36:22,160
Speaker 28: purchasing Aub Jabari, which I like that piece of business.

1831
01:36:22,360 --> 01:36:24,040
Speaker 28: I thought that Ayub did well in the time that

1832
01:36:24,080 --> 01:36:25,920
Speaker 28: he was over here on loan, and I think that

1833
01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:27,400
Speaker 28: they rated him very high.

1834
01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:29,920
Speaker 2: Like his work rate, They love his size.

1835
01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:32,280
Speaker 28: We saw the assists that he had, uh you know

1836
01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:35,200
Speaker 28: on on the one Brenner goal against Columbus. Uh So

1837
01:36:35,280 --> 01:36:38,080
Speaker 28: I think that a real preseason for him will prove

1838
01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:41,080
Speaker 28: to be beneficial. But I would expect that there's a

1839
01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:43,880
Speaker 28: striker signing coming at some point in the next few

1840
01:36:43,920 --> 01:36:46,840
Speaker 28: weeks as a start camp and then maybe two even

1841
01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:48,559
Speaker 28: if they feel that's.

1842
01:36:48,400 --> 01:36:49,280
Speaker 2: How they have to fill it out.

1843
01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:51,840
Speaker 28: But I would say that those are the areas right

1844
01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:56,599
Speaker 28: now that Christmas staff are probably spending the most time

1845
01:36:56,640 --> 01:36:59,360
Speaker 28: on in trying to improve the squad.

1846
01:36:59,600 --> 01:37:01,680
Speaker 2: I know we're kind of late in the offseason. I

1847
01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:04,240
Speaker 2: know you mentioned it, eight days or so until players

1848
01:37:04,280 --> 01:37:07,000
Speaker 2: report and start going through all the physical stuff. There

1849
01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:10,160
Speaker 2: was also the Super Draft that happened. What did we

1850
01:37:10,240 --> 01:37:13,080
Speaker 2: learn about the players that FC Cincinnati got and what's

1851
01:37:13,120 --> 01:37:16,240
Speaker 2: the process like? Is it closer to like Major League

1852
01:37:16,240 --> 01:37:18,720
Speaker 2: Baseball where these guys will spend some time developing or

1853
01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:20,880
Speaker 2: are they going to have an impact right away? Kind

1854
01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:23,519
Speaker 2: of explain that for people who maybe don't know much

1855
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:24,759
Speaker 2: about the MLS draft.

1856
01:37:25,320 --> 01:37:28,160
Speaker 28: Yeah, since any had traded away their first round pick,

1857
01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:32,599
Speaker 28: they end up getting another from yukon In. You know,

1858
01:37:32,960 --> 01:37:34,680
Speaker 28: he's more of a defensive player, And you're right, I

1859
01:37:34,720 --> 01:37:38,880
Speaker 28: think it's more generally speaking, in Major League Soccer, the

1860
01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:42,759
Speaker 28: draft is more of a developmental peace for the clubs.

1861
01:37:44,120 --> 01:37:49,000
Speaker 28: If you think about the best players you know in regions,

1862
01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:52,799
Speaker 28: they're either on home grown deals or they're being signed

1863
01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:55,559
Speaker 28: to go overseas, maybe even at a young age because

1864
01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:59,240
Speaker 28: they're rated that highly. You know, where they're coming up

1865
01:37:59,280 --> 01:38:03,559
Speaker 28: through the academy. So you know, the college ranks lose

1866
01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:06,280
Speaker 28: some of some players that would be amazing college players

1867
01:38:06,280 --> 01:38:07,800
Speaker 28: because they go straight to the pros.

1868
01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:09,240
Speaker 2: And that's kind of how the sport.

1869
01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:11,479
Speaker 28: And look, that's not all that different than baseball, right,

1870
01:38:12,080 --> 01:38:15,640
Speaker 28: but guys who are getting drafted more often than not,

1871
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:17,439
Speaker 28: and this is what we've seen for the years that

1872
01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:21,120
Speaker 28: since I've been an MLS are going to develop, maybe

1873
01:38:21,120 --> 01:38:23,240
Speaker 28: through the two team, maybe they'll be out a loan,

1874
01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:24,799
Speaker 28: maybe they're bench players.

1875
01:38:25,040 --> 01:38:27,080
Speaker 2: You know. Rollman cell Tone is probably the exception.

1876
01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:29,439
Speaker 28: And the expectation was not for him to become a

1877
01:38:29,479 --> 01:38:31,800
Speaker 28: starter in his first year in Major League Soccer, and

1878
01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:34,280
Speaker 28: he was starting for the two team and you know,

1879
01:38:34,600 --> 01:38:37,120
Speaker 28: was just getting a first team start in an early

1880
01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:39,439
Speaker 28: US Open Cup match, so you know, and when al

1881
01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:41,080
Speaker 28: King got hurt and then he.

1882
01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:42,360
Speaker 2: Took over and never looked back.

1883
01:38:42,479 --> 01:38:45,200
Speaker 28: So expectation is generally that that those guys are going

1884
01:38:45,280 --> 01:38:46,760
Speaker 28: to develop and sometimes you'll get a guy who can

1885
01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:49,040
Speaker 28: step right on and help your team as a starter,

1886
01:38:49,400 --> 01:38:52,680
Speaker 28: and that's great, but I would say most teams use

1887
01:38:52,720 --> 01:38:55,439
Speaker 28: it more as a developmental piece, and you know, certainly

1888
01:38:55,479 --> 01:38:57,639
Speaker 28: I think that'll be the case with the way that

1889
01:38:57,680 --> 01:38:59,519
Speaker 28: f C Cincinnati approached the draft this year.

1890
01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:03,920
Speaker 2: One other thing that's happened since we last spoke was

1891
01:39:04,160 --> 01:39:08,320
Speaker 2: Dominic kinnear leaving FC Cincinnati. What exactly was his role?

1892
01:39:08,439 --> 01:39:10,799
Speaker 2: Have they filled that yet? Are they in the process

1893
01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:13,600
Speaker 2: of doing that? And how do you replace someone like

1894
01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:17,080
Speaker 2: that who has some pelts on the wall himself? Yeah, yeah, no,

1895
01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:18,000
Speaker 2: I mean un listening.

1896
01:39:18,080 --> 01:39:20,880
Speaker 28: Tom is an amazing veteran presidence and I think was

1897
01:39:20,920 --> 01:39:22,840
Speaker 28: a really important piece of the puzzle for the first

1898
01:39:22,920 --> 01:39:23,479
Speaker 28: four years.

1899
01:39:23,520 --> 01:39:26,679
Speaker 2: And you often see and this is true across all sports.

1900
01:39:26,920 --> 01:39:28,760
Speaker 28: I remember, you know, I worked in college basketball for

1901
01:39:28,760 --> 01:39:30,719
Speaker 28: a really long time, did a lot of college basketball

1902
01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:33,400
Speaker 28: games on a variety of different levels, and you would

1903
01:39:33,439 --> 01:39:37,240
Speaker 28: see folks who get their first head coaching job and

1904
01:39:37,400 --> 01:39:40,800
Speaker 28: the seat next to them, they hire a veteran coach

1905
01:39:40,800 --> 01:39:42,040
Speaker 28: who's won a lot of games.

1906
01:39:42,600 --> 01:39:42,800
Speaker 2: You know.

1907
01:39:42,920 --> 01:39:45,559
Speaker 28: Jamel Elliott was hired at you see years ago to

1908
01:39:45,560 --> 01:39:48,160
Speaker 28: be the women's basketball coach and she hired Mark Elin,

1909
01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:52,719
Speaker 28: a trusted veteran of women's basketball who knew the region,

1910
01:39:52,760 --> 01:39:55,240
Speaker 28: who won a lot of games, won conference championships, you know,

1911
01:39:55,240 --> 01:39:56,360
Speaker 28: and didn't NTBA tournaments.

1912
01:39:56,400 --> 01:39:58,400
Speaker 2: And then this happens all the time, and you know,

1913
01:39:58,520 --> 01:39:59,160
Speaker 2: every sport.

1914
01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:01,120
Speaker 28: And I think that Pat made a really good decision

1915
01:40:01,120 --> 01:40:03,360
Speaker 28: of bringing him in four years ago to have a

1916
01:40:03,439 --> 01:40:06,720
Speaker 28: veteran as he as he grew and and Dom you know,

1917
01:40:06,840 --> 01:40:09,640
Speaker 28: coached a lot of the forwards and attacking players and

1918
01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:12,280
Speaker 28: had a great relationship with him. You remember Randon Basquez

1919
01:40:12,280 --> 01:40:14,360
Speaker 28: was talking about what a relationship we had with Don Kanear.

1920
01:40:14,840 --> 01:40:17,400
Speaker 2: So I haven't heard who's replacing him yet.

1921
01:40:17,800 --> 01:40:19,760
Speaker 28: Obviously, the club put out and and they thank you

1922
01:40:19,800 --> 01:40:22,760
Speaker 28: to him for his four years. You know, I would

1923
01:40:22,840 --> 01:40:26,639
Speaker 28: imagine that they've made progress in that regards because again

1924
01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:29,839
Speaker 28: with with you know, the team reporting here soon and

1925
01:40:29,960 --> 01:40:32,320
Speaker 28: you know, opening up camp, they'd want to have a

1926
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Speaker 28: replacement in place. But haven't heard anything on that front yet,

1927
01:40:35,640 --> 01:40:37,960
Speaker 28: you know, certainly intrigued to hear who it is. Always

1928
01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:40,719
Speaker 28: enjoyed my conversation with Dom and and we'll miss those.

1929
01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:43,760
Speaker 28: But yeah, certainly he was an important piece for the

1930
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Speaker 28: club for four years.

1931
01:40:44,680 --> 01:40:46,120
Speaker 2: But uh, certainly.

1932
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Speaker 28: You know, Pat and his coaching staff so well connected

1933
01:40:49,640 --> 01:40:52,320
Speaker 28: across the spectrum of Major League soccer that I would imagine,

1934
01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:55,160
Speaker 28: you know, they they had people lining up to come

1935
01:40:55,200 --> 01:40:56,599
Speaker 28: in and join the club.

1936
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Speaker 2: And finally, before I let you go, it is a

1937
01:40:59,200 --> 01:41:02,160
Speaker 2: Friday footthall on Frenzy and of course the Bengals play

1938
01:41:02,200 --> 01:41:06,519
Speaker 2: the Browns on Sunday. These two teams are not playing

1939
01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:10,680
Speaker 2: for much other than draft positioning. What is what has

1940
01:41:10,720 --> 01:41:14,360
Speaker 2: been your evaluation of perfect timing Shadoor Sanders and his

1941
01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:19,040
Speaker 2: role as the starting quarterback over these last several weeks. Well,

1942
01:41:19,080 --> 01:41:22,120
Speaker 2: you're right, we do do have this Battle of Ohio.

1943
01:41:22,200 --> 01:41:24,600
Speaker 28: I mean there's pride of the Buckeye State on the

1944
01:41:24,640 --> 01:41:26,960
Speaker 28: lion here, my friends. So there's the buck. Guys can't

1945
01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:29,679
Speaker 28: get it done, So someone of these teams has oh heah, exactly,

1946
01:41:29,800 --> 01:41:31,599
Speaker 28: so that you had there's little to play for. I mean,

1947
01:41:31,640 --> 01:41:35,320
Speaker 28: come on, there's a pride for you, for me, for

1948
01:41:35,360 --> 01:41:37,880
Speaker 28: everybody else of uh, you know what's going to happen.

1949
01:41:37,880 --> 01:41:40,639
Speaker 28: I think I'm head down, So still still working on tickets,

1950
01:41:40,640 --> 01:41:43,080
Speaker 28: but I think I'm my head down and take the boys,

1951
01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:45,160
Speaker 28: you know, because why not. It's gonna be thirty six

1952
01:41:45,200 --> 01:41:48,479
Speaker 28: degrees and beautiful. That's football weather in Ohio, So let's

1953
01:41:48,520 --> 01:41:52,040
Speaker 28: go do that. But no, I think, you know, I

1954
01:41:52,240 --> 01:41:55,720
Speaker 28: like that if nothing else. So Door's got this run

1955
01:41:55,760 --> 01:41:57,960
Speaker 28: here at the end of the season to be evaluated.

1956
01:41:58,920 --> 01:42:01,439
Speaker 28: I think it's a little tough that he's playing behind

1957
01:42:01,600 --> 01:42:05,160
Speaker 28: essentially like a second and third string offensive line because

1958
01:42:05,200 --> 01:42:07,040
Speaker 28: of all the injuries that the Browns have suffered this year.

1959
01:42:07,120 --> 01:42:10,080
Speaker 28: So you know, he's at times had to scramble. I

1960
01:42:10,080 --> 01:42:13,240
Speaker 28: think at times you see the glimpses of you know

1961
01:42:13,320 --> 01:42:17,040
Speaker 28: what the believers were screaming from the mountaintop, you know,

1962
01:42:17,080 --> 01:42:20,120
Speaker 28: when he wasn't being drafted, and at times you've seen

1963
01:42:20,400 --> 01:42:24,960
Speaker 28: some rookie decisions that have hurt the team. So I'm

1964
01:42:25,040 --> 01:42:28,719
Speaker 28: kind of undecided on, you know, where he lands in

1965
01:42:28,760 --> 01:42:31,479
Speaker 28: the long term future. It sounds like, you know, they're

1966
01:42:31,479 --> 01:42:34,320
Speaker 28: gonna make him battle it out and maybe Deshaun is

1967
01:42:34,640 --> 01:42:37,840
Speaker 28: back in the mix, which is crazy and another conversation

1968
01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:39,080
Speaker 28: for another day, I guess.

1969
01:42:39,160 --> 01:42:41,960
Speaker 2: But well, he said the word undecided, and I feel

1970
01:42:42,000 --> 01:42:45,080
Speaker 2: like the Browns themselves and a lot of Browns fans

1971
01:42:45,120 --> 01:42:49,000
Speaker 2: are undecided about Kevin Stefanski. Where do you stand on him? Yeah,

1972
01:42:49,040 --> 01:42:51,559
Speaker 2: I think he's done. I think he's done. I think

1973
01:42:51,560 --> 01:42:53,120
Speaker 2: he has done enough, you know.

1974
01:42:53,360 --> 01:42:55,760
Speaker 28: I mean, he's gotten the team in the playoffs a

1975
01:42:55,760 --> 01:42:57,360
Speaker 28: couple of times, and I mean he's not that far

1976
01:42:57,400 --> 01:42:59,719
Speaker 28: removement and Coach of the Year. But I just don't

1977
01:42:59,720 --> 01:43:03,679
Speaker 28: think in the end, he's getting enough from a team

1978
01:43:03,720 --> 01:43:06,439
Speaker 28: that that has some talent. I mean, arguably one of

1979
01:43:06,479 --> 01:43:10,280
Speaker 28: the better defensive units in the league, and and you know,

1980
01:43:10,360 --> 01:43:12,559
Speaker 28: certainly Defensive Player of the Year. You know, a guy

1981
01:43:12,600 --> 01:43:15,240
Speaker 28: who is probably gonna set the single season to sack

1982
01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:19,720
Speaker 28: record on Sunday, right and could be an MVP in

1983
01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:20,759
Speaker 28: Miles Garrett.

1984
01:43:21,200 --> 01:43:22,720
Speaker 2: You know, she should be getting more from him.

1985
01:43:22,760 --> 01:43:24,280
Speaker 28: And I think, you know, the thing that frustrates Browns

1986
01:43:24,320 --> 01:43:25,880
Speaker 28: fins like you don't see a lot of emotion out

1987
01:43:25,880 --> 01:43:28,200
Speaker 28: of him. And that's not the reason fire a guy,

1988
01:43:28,200 --> 01:43:30,960
Speaker 28: but it's like show some emotion one way or the other.

1989
01:43:31,640 --> 01:43:33,680
Speaker 28: Be angry, get excited, jump for.

1990
01:43:33,680 --> 01:43:34,960
Speaker 2: Joy, smile.

1991
01:43:35,320 --> 01:43:38,519
Speaker 28: I don't know something and it probably just hasn't been

1992
01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:42,520
Speaker 28: you know, much of that. And I just think that

1993
01:43:42,680 --> 01:43:46,160
Speaker 28: the feeling from Afar without having any you know, insider

1994
01:43:46,160 --> 01:43:48,880
Speaker 28: now that he's kind of lost the locker room and

1995
01:43:48,880 --> 01:43:51,280
Speaker 28: and you know when that happens, it's hard to come

1996
01:43:51,320 --> 01:43:55,720
Speaker 28: back from and and continue to lead, you know, a

1997
01:43:55,760 --> 01:43:57,000
Speaker 28: group of men in the NFL.

1998
01:43:57,160 --> 01:43:59,040
Speaker 2: So I think the change has to happen.

1999
01:43:59,080 --> 01:44:02,080
Speaker 28: But but here's the problem in the end is you know,

2000
01:44:02,120 --> 01:44:05,960
Speaker 28: where do you turn and what's the decision? And if

2001
01:44:05,960 --> 01:44:09,280
Speaker 28: there's a change, you know, gets often felt like the

2002
01:44:09,320 --> 01:44:11,640
Speaker 28: problems are above the head coach with the with the

2003
01:44:11,680 --> 01:44:15,400
Speaker 28: club right, and if the problems with the Browns are

2004
01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:18,639
Speaker 28: you know, above above the head coach and beyond, then

2005
01:44:19,360 --> 01:44:22,120
Speaker 28: if those things don't change, then yeah, I don't know

2006
01:44:22,160 --> 01:44:25,599
Speaker 28: if it matters if you roll Bill Belichick in the door,

2007
01:44:25,640 --> 01:44:28,840
Speaker 28: you know, like, no, they should call him. That would

2008
01:44:28,880 --> 01:44:32,040
Speaker 28: be great, a full circle moment for him.

2009
01:44:32,120 --> 01:44:34,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I mean, Zach Taylor's don't grow on trees.

2010
01:44:34,960 --> 01:44:37,120
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's difficult to find as Zach Taylor.

2011
01:44:37,920 --> 01:44:39,720
Speaker 2: It's gonna be epic bad. What's your prediction? What do

2012
01:44:39,760 --> 01:44:41,639
Speaker 2: you go for? What do you have for? I got

2013
01:44:41,680 --> 01:44:44,360
Speaker 2: the Bengals playing their starters for a half and then

2014
01:44:44,680 --> 01:44:47,160
Speaker 2: uh Cleveland runs away with it in the second half

2015
01:44:48,320 --> 01:44:53,120
Speaker 2: by a score of twenty seven to twenty. Cleveland wins.

2016
01:44:53,400 --> 01:44:56,160
Speaker 2: Bengals get up to eighth in their draft positioning and

2017
01:44:56,200 --> 01:44:57,040
Speaker 2: everybody's happy.

2018
01:44:58,560 --> 01:45:02,880
Speaker 31: See I put the Browns in Browns. I think you

2019
01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:07,679
Speaker 31: guys would be sick. Okay, go back to back. All right,

2020
01:45:07,760 --> 01:45:12,240
Speaker 31: Well that's so all Ohio, so we'll say in Pittsburgh.

2021
01:45:12,280 --> 01:45:15,120
Speaker 31: So yeah, all right, that's good. I was I was

2022
01:45:15,160 --> 01:45:15,920
Speaker 31: waiting for that question.

2023
01:45:15,960 --> 01:45:17,960
Speaker 28: But yeah, I'm gonna look forward to Sunday and uh,

2024
01:45:18,240 --> 01:45:20,080
Speaker 28: always good to chat with you. Let's get this year

2025
01:45:20,120 --> 01:45:22,880
Speaker 28: started and you know, get back into routines and and

2026
01:45:22,880 --> 01:45:24,519
Speaker 28: be the best versions of ourselves this year.

2027
01:45:24,600 --> 01:45:26,599
Speaker 2: I love it. Tommy, thanks so much for your time,

2028
01:45:26,680 --> 01:45:29,920
Speaker 2: pal My pleasure often. All right, thank you, Tommy G

2029
01:45:30,120 --> 01:45:32,720
Speaker 2: the voice of FC Cincinnati. You know what I I

2030
01:45:32,840 --> 01:45:35,439
Speaker 2: just really I didn't really think about that answer until

2031
01:45:35,439 --> 01:45:37,080
Speaker 2: he said I just kind of came out of my mouth.

2032
01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:40,680
Speaker 2: So I don't know if the I don't know what

2033
01:45:40,680 --> 01:45:43,920
Speaker 2: the plan is going to be. If the Bengals starters

2034
01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:45,760
Speaker 2: play the whole game, the Bengals are going to win.

2035
01:45:46,479 --> 01:45:49,400
Speaker 2: But if they don't, I feel like Cleveland would win.

2036
01:45:49,880 --> 01:45:51,800
Speaker 2: And as Charlie talked about, that's one of the most

2037
01:45:51,800 --> 01:45:54,240
Speaker 2: interesting things about this game is how much do the

2038
01:45:54,280 --> 01:45:58,240
Speaker 2: Bengals actually care about winning it. I don't know, but

2039
01:45:58,680 --> 01:46:00,799
Speaker 2: I do think it's interesting the way that Joe Burrow

2040
01:46:00,880 --> 01:46:04,120
Speaker 2: talked about this game and where he's at and all

2041
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Speaker 2: of that. Earlier this week, you'll hear from the Bengals

2042
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Speaker 2: Welcome back Tony Bikes Football Frenzy Here on ESPN fifteen

2096
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Speaker 2: thirty Tony and Moe in Memphis alongside Dan Horde for

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2100
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Speaker 2: for the Liberty Bowl this afternoon. They might be the

2101
01:49:28,880 --> 01:49:32,960
Speaker 2: only ones I'm excited about the Bengals and Browns on Sunday,

2102
01:49:33,840 --> 01:49:36,360
Speaker 2: just because I love football, and because it's going to

2103
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Speaker 2: be until September that we see the Bengals play another

2104
01:49:38,800 --> 01:49:41,679
Speaker 2: meaningful game. And I wonder if we'll see Joe Burrow

2105
01:49:41,720 --> 01:49:45,720
Speaker 2: play in any more meaningful games or any other not

2106
01:49:45,880 --> 01:49:49,479
Speaker 2: so meaningful games between now and then. We'll talk about

2107
01:49:49,560 --> 01:49:51,800
Speaker 2: him and the preseason and all that at some point

2108
01:49:51,880 --> 01:49:54,880
Speaker 2: later on this year. But Joe met with the media

2109
01:49:54,920 --> 01:49:57,320
Speaker 2: earlier this week, and I want to play some of

2110
01:49:57,320 --> 01:49:59,320
Speaker 2: that conversation for you. Speaking of you know, we were

2111
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Speaker 2: talking about New year resolutions Cincinnati Sports New Year's resolutions, Well,

2112
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Speaker 2: one of mine would be a fully healthy Joe Burrow

2113
01:50:06,479 --> 01:50:10,000
Speaker 2: because this season is just miserable without him. And I

2114
01:50:10,040 --> 01:50:12,240
Speaker 2: do think, and I know Charlie has expressed this as well.

2115
01:50:12,240 --> 01:50:15,439
Speaker 2: The Bengals are probably AFC North champions or at the

2116
01:50:15,520 --> 01:50:18,920
Speaker 2: very least in the playoffs if Burrow is healthy for

2117
01:50:19,040 --> 01:50:21,479
Speaker 2: the entire season. Now, I don't know if that would

2118
01:50:21,680 --> 01:50:24,519
Speaker 2: change much about their ability to go deep into the playoffs,

2119
01:50:24,600 --> 01:50:28,200
Speaker 2: especially this season with their defense, but nobody would deny

2120
01:50:28,240 --> 01:50:32,040
Speaker 2: it would be a much different season had Joe Burrow

2121
01:50:32,600 --> 01:50:35,160
Speaker 2: been fully healthy, and that would be my New Year's

2122
01:50:35,160 --> 01:50:38,280
Speaker 2: resolution for this year. No Joe Burrow injuries. I think

2123
01:50:38,320 --> 01:50:41,160
Speaker 2: we can all get behind that one. Here's a few

2124
01:50:41,160 --> 01:50:43,559
Speaker 2: minutes of the Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow when he met

2125
01:50:43,600 --> 01:50:47,040
Speaker 2: with the media earlier this week at pay Corpse Stadium.

2126
01:50:47,040 --> 01:50:48,960
Speaker 2: There's some really good stuff in here, Joe.

2127
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Speaker 8: If you can think big picture, I know it's difficult

2128
01:50:50,680 --> 01:50:53,320
Speaker 8: at times on a Wednesday like this to think about

2129
01:50:53,320 --> 01:50:56,400
Speaker 8: your career. You're almost six years done, now, what you've

2130
01:50:56,400 --> 01:50:59,120
Speaker 8: done so far versus what's still ahead?

2131
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Speaker 26: What do you still want to accomplished?

2132
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Speaker 8: What do you think still needs to be done for

2133
01:51:02,240 --> 01:51:04,240
Speaker 8: me to accomplish the best of the best.

2134
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Speaker 35: Obviously, you want to win a Super Bowl, you want

2135
01:51:07,680 --> 01:51:10,040
Speaker 35: to win MVPs, you want to be in the playoffs

2136
01:51:10,439 --> 01:51:16,720
Speaker 35: every year. But my goals at this point are just

2137
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Speaker 35: going out and playing as good as I can and

2138
01:51:19,600 --> 01:51:24,479
Speaker 35: continuing to improve, finding ways to continue to be great

2139
01:51:24,520 --> 01:51:27,879
Speaker 35: and continue to to find self improvement.

2140
01:51:28,160 --> 01:51:30,960
Speaker 8: How many times will you have conversations with not just

2141
01:51:31,000 --> 01:51:34,439
Speaker 8: coaching staff, but top of the organization going into the

2142
01:51:34,439 --> 01:51:36,559
Speaker 8: off season about certain things.

2143
01:51:36,360 --> 01:51:38,640
Speaker 26: That need to change or grow or improve to make

2144
01:51:38,680 --> 01:51:39,320
Speaker 26: this team better.

2145
01:51:39,520 --> 01:51:39,840
Speaker 16: I don't know.

2146
01:51:39,880 --> 01:51:41,120
Speaker 26: We'll see, We'll see how it goes.

2147
01:51:41,320 --> 01:51:44,840
Speaker 8: Is that something you try to go after those conversations?

2148
01:51:44,920 --> 01:51:45,880
Speaker 8: I mean, as much as you can.

2149
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Speaker 35: We have a great line of communication me, Duke, Kay, Troy,

2150
01:51:51,439 --> 01:51:54,920
Speaker 35: mister Brown, Zach's we have great communication.

2151
01:51:55,640 --> 01:51:56,639
Speaker 26: Is it kind of maybe? Then?

2152
01:51:56,840 --> 01:51:58,920
Speaker 34: What's it been like kind of not being able to

2153
01:51:58,960 --> 01:52:01,519
Speaker 34: have as much control as you be, like what other

2154
01:52:01,520 --> 01:52:02,960
Speaker 34: parts of the team and sales like You're like, I

2155
01:52:03,000 --> 01:52:04,880
Speaker 34: can control what I can. Has that been a bit

2156
01:52:04,920 --> 01:52:06,760
Speaker 34: of a challenge as you kind of gotten older in

2157
01:52:06,840 --> 01:52:07,280
Speaker 34: your career.

2158
01:52:08,240 --> 01:52:10,880
Speaker 35: I wouldn't say that I think I'm not sure. I

2159
01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:16,360
Speaker 35: would say I'm not sure.

2160
01:52:16,360 --> 01:52:17,000
Speaker 22: I would.

2161
01:52:18,720 --> 01:52:23,040
Speaker 35: Agree with the first part of your statement. I'm not

2162
01:52:23,080 --> 01:52:26,040
Speaker 35: sure I want to be a quarterback. I don't want

2163
01:52:26,080 --> 01:52:28,720
Speaker 35: to I want to work in the front office. I

2164
01:52:28,760 --> 01:52:32,880
Speaker 35: don't want to be scouting guys in the off season.

2165
01:52:35,479 --> 01:52:36,760
Speaker 35: I want to do what I do and I want

2166
01:52:36,760 --> 01:52:38,280
Speaker 35: to do it at a high level. And I have,

2167
01:52:39,240 --> 01:52:41,720
Speaker 35: and I'm going to continue to find more and more

2168
01:52:41,760 --> 01:52:45,360
Speaker 35: ways that I can help myself get better, help the

2169
01:52:45,360 --> 01:52:47,839
Speaker 35: team get better, and put ourselves in good positions.

2170
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Speaker 34: It's a better way to ask that would have been

2171
01:52:49,840 --> 01:52:51,559
Speaker 34: Has it been have you just been trying to focus

2172
01:52:51,600 --> 01:52:53,720
Speaker 34: on everything you can control and just kind of say,

2173
01:52:53,760 --> 01:52:54,800
Speaker 34: you know what, this is kind of what I can

2174
01:52:54,840 --> 01:52:55,120
Speaker 34: deal with.

2175
01:52:55,200 --> 01:52:56,679
Speaker 26: Let me try to handle that as best as I can.

2176
01:52:56,760 --> 01:52:58,840
Speaker 34: Has that been a bigger point of emphasis here for

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01:52:58,960 --> 01:52:59,280
Speaker 34: you think?

2178
01:52:59,400 --> 01:53:02,559
Speaker 35: Yeah, I would say that's fair. I think my job

2179
01:53:02,680 --> 01:53:06,519
Speaker 35: is to number one, play as well as I can.

2180
01:53:07,360 --> 01:53:10,720
Speaker 35: Number two continue to improve, and number three be the

2181
01:53:10,720 --> 01:53:14,880
Speaker 35: conduit between coaching staff front office in the locker room,

2182
01:53:16,080 --> 01:53:22,720
Speaker 35: relay feelings that players have, Relay sentiments in the locker room,

2183
01:53:22,720 --> 01:53:25,439
Speaker 35: because you know, coaches in front office are not down

2184
01:53:25,439 --> 01:53:28,439
Speaker 35: there every day and they don't understand a lot of

2185
01:53:28,479 --> 01:53:31,519
Speaker 35: the things that go on in the locker room. And

2186
01:53:31,560 --> 01:53:35,759
Speaker 35: so I think as quarterback, your job is to relay

2187
01:53:35,760 --> 01:53:36,599
Speaker 35: some of those things.

2188
01:53:36,800 --> 01:53:39,760
Speaker 2: How important is it for this franchise this offseason to

2189
01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:42,519
Speaker 2: make whatever the moves are, but the necessary moves.

2190
01:53:42,520 --> 01:53:45,120
Speaker 26: So a year from now, we're not saying out looks

2191
01:53:45,120 --> 01:53:45,840
Speaker 26: like the final game.

2192
01:53:46,160 --> 01:53:50,400
Speaker 35: Yeah, we want to be competing for championships every year.

2193
01:53:50,400 --> 01:53:52,360
Speaker 35: We don't want to be in the spot that we're

2194
01:53:52,360 --> 01:53:57,799
Speaker 35: in now. So something's got to change, whether it's players

2195
01:53:57,800 --> 01:54:00,559
Speaker 35: that we have continuing to improve and get and playing

2196
01:54:00,680 --> 01:54:04,880
Speaker 35: championship caliber football or bringing guys in that will or

2197
01:54:05,120 --> 01:54:07,639
Speaker 35: whatever it may be. Obviously something has to.

2198
01:54:09,439 --> 01:54:11,160
Speaker 36: I don't know how much college football you watch over

2199
01:54:11,200 --> 01:54:13,040
Speaker 36: you know, twenty three, twenty four. I asked this because

2200
01:54:13,080 --> 01:54:15,200
Speaker 36: you know, Shuter seem just gonna be starting for Cleveland

2201
01:54:15,280 --> 01:54:15,879
Speaker 36: on Sunday.

2202
01:54:16,240 --> 01:54:18,000
Speaker 26: Did you gets used to watch him, and if so,

2203
01:54:18,160 --> 01:54:19,080
Speaker 26: what do you think of his game?

2204
01:54:19,120 --> 01:54:22,120
Speaker 36: And also kind of how he's handled the unusual spotlight

2205
01:54:22,160 --> 01:54:23,400
Speaker 36: that's kind of come with him.

2206
01:54:23,720 --> 01:54:23,920
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2207
01:54:23,960 --> 01:54:25,559
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed watching him in college.

2208
01:54:25,680 --> 01:54:27,880
Speaker 35: I thought he made a lot of plays. I thought

2209
01:54:27,880 --> 01:54:31,679
Speaker 35: he could throw it. And then obviously Stephen who.

2210
01:54:31,520 --> 01:54:32,080
Speaker 4: His dad is.

2211
01:54:32,160 --> 01:54:35,840
Speaker 35: He he knows how to handle the media, knows how

2212
01:54:35,840 --> 01:54:39,280
Speaker 35: to handle the spotlight. Certainly been under more of a

2213
01:54:39,320 --> 01:54:43,680
Speaker 35: microscope than any other what do you get drafted fourth round,

2214
01:54:44,200 --> 01:54:47,120
Speaker 35: fifth round, certainly under the microscope more than any other

2215
01:54:47,160 --> 01:54:50,879
Speaker 35: fifth round pick that's ever been in the history of football.

2216
01:54:51,400 --> 01:54:56,200
Speaker 35: And every clip that I see, you know, he seems

2217
01:54:56,200 --> 01:54:58,280
Speaker 35: to be handling it well, says most of the right

2218
01:54:58,320 --> 01:55:03,000
Speaker 35: things in the media. He is who he is, he's himself.

2219
01:55:03,000 --> 01:55:06,360
Speaker 35: That's what you want out of a football player. So

2220
01:55:06,600 --> 01:55:08,000
Speaker 35: he seems to be handling it the right way.

2221
01:55:08,160 --> 01:55:11,040
Speaker 36: Has he ever come up in conversations that you and

2222
01:55:11,080 --> 01:55:13,879
Speaker 36: Flacco have had at any point considering you know, Flaka

2223
01:55:13,920 --> 01:55:15,560
Speaker 36: was with him, you know, in Cleveland up until he

2224
01:55:15,600 --> 01:55:16,040
Speaker 36: came here.

2225
01:55:16,440 --> 01:55:19,120
Speaker 35: Yeah, you talk about a lot of different players across

2226
01:55:19,160 --> 01:55:24,160
Speaker 35: the league, and that's typically you know, you get a

2227
01:55:24,200 --> 01:55:28,600
Speaker 35: new guy, you figure out he was with or he

2228
01:55:28,800 --> 01:55:31,000
Speaker 35: was with this guy. I wonder what he thought about

2229
01:55:31,280 --> 01:55:34,840
Speaker 35: about him. That's kind of you know, the initial conversations

2230
01:55:34,880 --> 01:55:36,360
Speaker 35: that you have with new guys that come into the

2231
01:55:36,400 --> 01:55:38,200
Speaker 35: locker room and try to find some common ground in

2232
01:55:38,240 --> 01:55:38,600
Speaker 35: that way.

2233
01:55:39,240 --> 01:55:42,640
Speaker 36: Is there anything between the conversations you've had with Joe

2234
01:55:42,720 --> 01:55:45,520
Speaker 36: about Shador that you could share anything like that.

2235
01:55:45,480 --> 01:55:48,920
Speaker 26: Or keep that between keep that in the locker room.

2236
01:55:49,800 --> 01:55:53,000
Speaker 1: You picked you picked Joe's brain all on the Cleveland defense.

2237
01:55:53,320 --> 01:55:56,879
Speaker 1: Kind of a great rocketunity to get a guy who's cap.

2238
01:55:58,680 --> 01:55:59,600
Speaker 22: No, not really.

2239
01:56:00,800 --> 01:56:02,160
Speaker 35: They do what they do for the most part. They're

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01:56:02,160 --> 01:56:08,200
Speaker 35: pretty simple on defense. That certainly doesn't mean that they

2241
01:56:08,240 --> 01:56:15,120
Speaker 35: don't provide problematic looks and disguises, and certainly doesn't mean

2242
01:56:15,120 --> 01:56:17,520
Speaker 35: that they're not good on defense. They're in my opinion,

2243
01:56:17,560 --> 01:56:21,080
Speaker 35: the best defense in football. So it's certainly going to

2244
01:56:21,120 --> 01:56:25,400
Speaker 35: be a challenge, but the number one the players that

2245
01:56:25,440 --> 01:56:26,920
Speaker 35: they have. Number two of the coach that they have

2246
01:56:27,320 --> 01:56:30,800
Speaker 35: understands the strengths and weaknesses of his players and puts

2247
01:56:30,800 --> 01:56:31,640
Speaker 35: them in good positions.

2248
01:56:32,600 --> 01:56:36,640
Speaker 2: That is Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow. Really good stuff there.

2249
01:56:36,920 --> 01:56:42,080
Speaker 2: I think the point about making the line of communication

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Speaker 2: between him and the front office, including Katie and Troy

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01:56:47,280 --> 01:56:49,960
Speaker 2: and Mike and Zach and Duke and all of that,

2252
01:56:50,480 --> 01:56:53,320
Speaker 2: and I think kind of going and explaining that sometimes

2253
01:56:53,360 --> 01:56:56,800
Speaker 2: there's things that they don't see that you can relay

2254
01:56:56,840 --> 01:57:00,120
Speaker 2: to them, and that's the job of a quarterback. I

2255
01:57:00,200 --> 01:57:02,680
Speaker 2: thought that was really interesting and important. He also said

2256
01:57:02,680 --> 01:57:04,400
Speaker 2: doesn't want to be the GM, doesn't want to be

2257
01:57:04,440 --> 01:57:07,080
Speaker 2: the guy scouting guys. You can push them to be

2258
01:57:07,160 --> 01:57:09,760
Speaker 2: better without you know, being that guy, the guy who

2259
01:57:09,800 --> 01:57:11,600
Speaker 2: does it all the time. I thought that was interesting

2260
01:57:12,920 --> 01:57:17,000
Speaker 2: and really good stuff from Joe as well. And you know,

2261
01:57:17,040 --> 01:57:19,080
Speaker 2: he went on to talk about how he thinks Cleveland

2262
01:57:19,080 --> 01:57:21,520
Speaker 2: has the best defense in the league. He's not really

2263
01:57:21,560 --> 01:57:24,680
Speaker 2: worried or thinking about Miles Garrett, like he's gotten him

2264
01:57:24,680 --> 01:57:27,680
Speaker 2: a lot and that's unfortunate, but it's a part of

2265
01:57:27,960 --> 01:57:31,040
Speaker 2: playing against the Cleveland Browns. So some really good stuff

2266
01:57:31,040 --> 01:57:35,800
Speaker 2: there from Joe Burrow talking with the media earlier this week.

2267
01:57:35,840 --> 01:57:38,200
Speaker 2: When we come back, it's a football in the Natty.

2268
01:57:38,200 --> 01:57:40,320
Speaker 2: We're going to do a quick read and react. This

2269
01:57:40,480 --> 01:57:42,040
Speaker 2: is ESPN fifteen thirty.

2270
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Speaker 3: From the Court to the Cage, the Diamond to the Dome.

2271
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Speaker 3: He brings the heat. Moegar today at three pm on

2272
01:57:51,120 --> 01:57:54,040
Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty.

2273
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Speaker 30: If you were.

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01:57:54,560 --> 01:57:58,320
Speaker 3: Allowed, this is football in the Natty, brought to you

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01:57:58,360 --> 01:58:03,760
Speaker 3: in part by Postman and by Skyline Chilly on ESPN

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Speaker 3: fifteen point thirty to the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

2277
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, are you ready?

2278
01:58:12,600 --> 01:58:12,840
Speaker 11: Now?

2279
01:58:12,960 --> 01:58:16,880
Speaker 3: We read and react on Tony Pike since the three sixty.

2280
01:58:17,080 --> 01:58:20,360
Speaker 2: We're gonna parlay a football on the Natty right into

2281
01:58:20,400 --> 01:58:22,920
Speaker 2: a read and react. Haven't been able to do one

2282
01:58:22,920 --> 01:58:25,640
Speaker 2: of these in a while. Short and sweet Bengals Browns.

2283
01:58:25,760 --> 01:58:29,360
Speaker 2: Let's start with Cleveland quarterbacks should Or Sanders. Should Or

2284
01:58:29,480 --> 01:58:34,000
Speaker 2: Sanders has averaged a time to throw of three point

2285
01:58:34,040 --> 01:58:36,960
Speaker 2: two to two seconds, which would be the longest among

2286
01:58:37,040 --> 01:58:41,840
Speaker 2: qualified quarterbacks this season. On extended dropbacks, which are four

2287
01:58:41,920 --> 01:58:45,640
Speaker 2: or more seconds, Sanders is completing just twenty point six

2288
01:58:45,720 --> 01:58:48,600
Speaker 2: percent of his attempts for one hundred and thirteen yards

2289
01:58:48,640 --> 01:58:52,880
Speaker 2: and three interceptions. However, he's been better when he gets

2290
01:58:52,960 --> 01:58:56,240
Speaker 2: rid of the ball in under four seconds, completing sixty

2291
01:58:56,320 --> 01:58:59,640
Speaker 2: five zero point four percent of such passes for eleven

2292
01:58:59,720 --> 01:59:04,640
Speaker 2: hundred seventy six yards, seven touchdowns and seven picks. So

2293
01:59:04,720 --> 01:59:07,880
Speaker 2: that tells me when Shaduar Sanders is holding the ball

2294
01:59:07,920 --> 01:59:10,520
Speaker 2: and holding the ball, he's not making as good of

2295
01:59:10,560 --> 01:59:13,880
Speaker 2: decisions as when he's being pressured and maybe has the

2296
01:59:13,920 --> 01:59:17,440
Speaker 2: answers to the test beforehand. I'm curious if the Bengals

2297
01:59:17,480 --> 01:59:20,360
Speaker 2: will show a lot of blitzes and then drop back

2298
01:59:20,400 --> 01:59:22,880
Speaker 2: in coverage against should or standers. Let's go over to

2299
01:59:22,880 --> 01:59:26,160
Speaker 2: the Bengals defense. DJ Turner has made a play on

2300
01:59:26,200 --> 01:59:28,760
Speaker 2: the ball, which is a pass defense or an interception

2301
01:59:29,240 --> 01:59:32,560
Speaker 2: on twenty eight point six percent of his targets. That's

2302
01:59:32,600 --> 01:59:37,320
Speaker 2: the second highest monk mark among quarterbacks this season. He

2303
01:59:37,360 --> 01:59:40,480
Speaker 2: has only been targeted on twelve percent of his coverage snaps,

2304
01:59:40,800 --> 01:59:44,040
Speaker 2: the sixth lowest mark among quarterbacks with at least two

2305
01:59:44,080 --> 01:59:47,640
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty snaps in coverage. Jamar Chase said DJ

2306
01:59:47,760 --> 01:59:50,640
Speaker 2: Turner is the most improved player for the Bengals this year.

2307
01:59:51,080 --> 01:59:53,840
Speaker 2: His feet are matching his hands and he's putting it

2308
01:59:53,880 --> 01:59:57,320
Speaker 2: all together. It's resulting in teams aren't even throwing at

2309
01:59:57,400 --> 02:00:00,160
Speaker 2: DJ Turner. He has turned into one of those pie

2310
02:00:00,320 --> 02:00:03,560
Speaker 2: is that you're willing to build around for the Bengals defense.

2311
02:00:03,640 --> 02:00:07,839
Speaker 2: Moving forward, Finally, let's go to Miles Garrett. He's half

2312
02:00:08,240 --> 02:00:12,200
Speaker 2: sack shy of breaking the single season sack record at

2313
02:00:12,200 --> 02:00:15,640
Speaker 2: twenty two and a half entering this week. However, he

2314
02:00:15,680 --> 02:00:19,480
Speaker 2: has only registered half a sack over the last two games.

2315
02:00:19,840 --> 02:00:23,280
Speaker 2: During that span, Garrett has been chipped or double teamed

2316
02:00:23,840 --> 02:00:28,120
Speaker 2: on forty two percent of his pass rushes. He is

2317
02:00:28,160 --> 02:00:31,240
Speaker 2: aligned at the right edge on eighty two percent of

2318
02:00:31,280 --> 02:00:35,640
Speaker 2: his snaps this season. Projecting a matchup with Orlando Brown Junior,

2319
02:00:36,160 --> 02:00:39,400
Speaker 2: the Bengals have used chip help for Brown on fourteen

2320
02:00:39,480 --> 02:00:43,040
Speaker 2: point five percent of his pass blocks, the fourth highest

2321
02:00:43,120 --> 02:00:47,960
Speaker 2: mark among left tackles. AKA. If you're gonna go up

2322
02:00:47,960 --> 02:00:51,480
Speaker 2: against Orlando Brown Junior and your Miles Garrett, you're gonna

2323
02:00:51,480 --> 02:00:55,200
Speaker 2: get help or Brown. Orlando Brown Junior is gonna get help.

2324
02:00:55,280 --> 02:00:57,800
Speaker 2: Garrett's gonna get chipped, he's gonna get double teamed. The

2325
02:00:57,840 --> 02:01:00,040
Speaker 2: Bengals are gonna do everything in their power not to

2326
02:01:00,120 --> 02:01:03,360
Speaker 2: let Miles Garrett wreck the game. It's been a major

2327
02:01:03,400 --> 02:01:05,840
Speaker 2: issue in the past when these two teams meet. It

2328
02:01:05,960 --> 02:01:08,840
Speaker 2: is going to be an issue again on Sunday. These

2329
02:01:08,840 --> 02:01:11,320
Speaker 2: are the game within the game, these next gen stats

2330
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Speaker 2: from our friends over at NFL Pro for read and

2331
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Speaker 2: React that you got to pay close attention too. I

2332
02:01:18,480 --> 02:01:20,600
Speaker 2: was gonna play a little bit of Jamar Chase for you.

2333
02:01:21,040 --> 02:01:22,720
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm gonna be able to play the

2334
02:01:22,720 --> 02:01:27,280
Speaker 2: whole thing. But as always, Bengals wide receiver Jamar Chase

2335
02:01:27,480 --> 02:01:30,400
Speaker 2: was really good when he met with the media yesterday.

2336
02:01:30,440 --> 02:01:31,600
Speaker 2: Here's a couple of minutes of that.

2337
02:01:31,760 --> 02:01:34,480
Speaker 35: Are you gonna sort of reflection period yet on the

2338
02:01:34,560 --> 02:01:36,560
Speaker 35: year or are you still just sort of focusing on

2339
02:01:36,640 --> 02:01:38,720
Speaker 35: Cleveland and then you'll get there sort of when you

2340
02:01:38,760 --> 02:01:39,080
Speaker 35: get there.

2341
02:01:39,160 --> 02:01:39,240
Speaker 9: No?

2342
02:01:39,360 --> 02:01:41,240
Speaker 37: Yeah, really after the game.

2343
02:01:42,600 --> 02:01:45,480
Speaker 38: You had that touchdown on the screen against Arizona. You've

2344
02:01:45,520 --> 02:01:47,320
Speaker 38: always been good at that kind of stuff. But do

2345
02:01:47,360 --> 02:01:49,240
Speaker 38: you feel like the screen games in area where you've

2346
02:01:49,280 --> 02:01:50,560
Speaker 38: improved taking another step?

2347
02:01:50,600 --> 02:01:51,080
Speaker 26: This season?

2348
02:01:53,720 --> 02:01:53,840
Speaker 28: Uh?

2349
02:01:53,920 --> 02:01:54,640
Speaker 37: Yeah, I will say so.

2350
02:01:54,800 --> 02:01:55,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2351
02:01:55,240 --> 02:01:58,720
Speaker 37: Overall, just getting the ones behind a line of swimmers,

2352
02:01:58,720 --> 02:02:00,240
Speaker 37: just making them work with no blockers, Yeah, I would

2353
02:02:00,240 --> 02:02:00,440
Speaker 37: say so.

2354
02:02:00,520 --> 02:02:04,200
Speaker 26: Yeah, where do you think you've improved this year?

2355
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Speaker 11: Tomorrow?

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Speaker 37: Just exactly what I happen to ask me the other day.

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02:02:10,200 --> 02:02:12,760
Speaker 37: But it's hard to say, you know what I'm saying,

2358
02:02:12,960 --> 02:02:16,200
Speaker 37: coming from this season I had last year, trying to

2359
02:02:16,240 --> 02:02:21,600
Speaker 37: capitalize off that. I'm really just trying to be more consistent.

2360
02:02:21,680 --> 02:02:23,960
Speaker 37: It's not really what I'm getting better at, what I'm

2361
02:02:24,000 --> 02:02:27,440
Speaker 37: best at. It's really just maintaining consistency throughout the year.

2362
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Speaker 38: There was a touchdown drought for whatever you want to say,

2363
02:02:30,760 --> 02:02:33,160
Speaker 38: Like how crazy are the coverages teams are thrown at

2364
02:02:33,160 --> 02:02:33,920
Speaker 38: you in the red zones?

2365
02:02:34,080 --> 02:02:37,200
Speaker 26: In the red zone majority of time is just like.

2366
02:02:38,760 --> 02:02:44,480
Speaker 37: Man doubled with some combos and sometimes it's some stuff

2367
02:02:44,480 --> 02:02:45,960
Speaker 37: and I don't normally see you know what I'm saying.

2368
02:02:46,000 --> 02:02:48,160
Speaker 37: Sometimes it confuses me a little bit, But a lot

2369
02:02:48,200 --> 02:02:51,160
Speaker 37: of times defensive scheme up for situations like that.

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02:02:51,920 --> 02:02:54,040
Speaker 26: What have you learned about Burrow this year that maybe

2371
02:02:54,080 --> 02:02:54,400
Speaker 26: you didn't?

2372
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Speaker 34: Is there anything new that you gained this year that

2373
02:02:56,720 --> 02:03:00,200
Speaker 34: maybe from previous years?

2374
02:03:00,240 --> 02:03:00,520
Speaker 2: Nothing?

2375
02:03:00,520 --> 02:03:02,320
Speaker 37: Really, I feel like he's been more social this year,

2376
02:03:02,920 --> 02:03:05,120
Speaker 37: more I've spoken anymore than in the year.

2377
02:03:05,600 --> 02:03:05,760
Speaker 5: Why.

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02:03:05,840 --> 02:03:07,000
Speaker 26: Why do you think that that might be?

2379
02:03:08,640 --> 02:03:09,240
Speaker 2: I'm not sure.

2380
02:03:09,960 --> 02:03:11,880
Speaker 37: I think he's finally comfortable a little bit, and then again,

2381
02:03:11,920 --> 02:03:15,760
Speaker 37: he's been here for a while, so uh, I don't know,

2382
02:03:16,000 --> 02:03:17,400
Speaker 37: I wanna say he's uncomfortable.

2383
02:03:17,640 --> 02:03:19,040
Speaker 26: What kind of impact does that have on the team?

2384
02:03:19,080 --> 02:03:21,280
Speaker 34: What your quarterback is? You know, when he's that more

2385
02:03:21,360 --> 02:03:23,880
Speaker 34: violet spoken, he's more vocal, speaks up more. What kind

2386
02:03:23,880 --> 02:03:25,120
Speaker 34: of impact does that have on Rustio?

2387
02:03:28,720 --> 02:03:30,240
Speaker 37: I feel like he's always been that type of guy,

2388
02:03:30,240 --> 02:03:33,080
Speaker 37: you know, especially coming in as a rookie and in

2389
02:03:33,200 --> 02:03:37,720
Speaker 37: my second year too, So I feel like he's been

2390
02:03:37,760 --> 02:03:39,880
Speaker 37: the same guy overall since I since I got him,

2391
02:03:39,960 --> 02:03:41,560
Speaker 37: well since I've met him, you know what I'm saying.

2392
02:03:42,360 --> 02:03:44,839
Speaker 37: But he he always keeps improving every year. I always

2393
02:03:45,120 --> 02:03:46,520
Speaker 37: ready to work when it's time to work. You know,

2394
02:03:46,560 --> 02:03:49,520
Speaker 37: it's he has an on and off switch. So he's

2395
02:03:49,520 --> 02:03:51,720
Speaker 37: always been the same person since I matter who on.

2396
02:03:51,720 --> 02:03:53,280
Speaker 26: The team do you feel like has improved the most

2397
02:03:53,360 --> 02:03:53,839
Speaker 26: this season?

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Speaker 7: DJ?

2399
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Speaker 38: Turn you face the laite corners every day. What stands

2400
02:03:58,720 --> 02:03:59,360
Speaker 38: out about DJ?

2401
02:03:59,840 --> 02:04:03,640
Speaker 37: I think the most this year, that's that caught my

2402
02:04:03,680 --> 02:04:06,880
Speaker 37: eye and most this year, but DJ is just him

2403
02:04:06,920 --> 02:04:11,400
Speaker 37: switching his techniques from price to off and physical to

2404
02:04:11,520 --> 02:04:13,800
Speaker 37: just feed. I think that's the biggest thing from this year.

2405
02:04:14,080 --> 02:04:16,800
Speaker 38: When you have a duo of DAX and DJs or receiver,

2406
02:04:16,920 --> 02:04:20,080
Speaker 38: how tough is it knowing either side you a map.

2407
02:04:21,760 --> 02:04:23,800
Speaker 37: It's just like playing offense, you know what I'm saying,

2408
02:04:23,920 --> 02:04:26,600
Speaker 37: dB just picking your poison. At the end of the day,

2409
02:04:26,600 --> 02:04:28,280
Speaker 37: you know, you got to find a receiver that you

2410
02:04:28,440 --> 02:04:30,000
Speaker 37: like him, hopefully and make a play.

2411
02:04:30,520 --> 02:04:33,320
Speaker 2: That is Bengals wide receiver Jamar Chase a lot of

2412
02:04:33,320 --> 02:04:35,760
Speaker 2: good stuff there. He also talked about how it's obvious

2413
02:04:35,840 --> 02:04:38,640
Speaker 2: that that something needs to change to get the Bengals

2414
02:04:38,680 --> 02:04:41,560
Speaker 2: back to playing in the playoffs and back to competing

2415
02:04:41,600 --> 02:04:45,320
Speaker 2: for championships, and he's maybe not ready to say exactly

2416
02:04:45,320 --> 02:04:47,120
Speaker 2: what that is, or he's not good one to say

2417
02:04:47,120 --> 02:04:49,880
Speaker 2: that you know, or speak for other people and how

2418
02:04:49,920 --> 02:04:53,400
Speaker 2: to do their job. But clearly there is an understanding

2419
02:04:54,480 --> 02:04:57,480
Speaker 2: that things need to change. And as I said earlier,

2420
02:04:57,520 --> 02:05:00,120
Speaker 2: I don't think the result of what happens between the

2421
02:05:00,120 --> 02:05:03,680
Speaker 2: Bengals and brown Sunday will really impact any of the

2422
02:05:03,680 --> 02:05:07,200
Speaker 2: things that we see the Bengals do this offseason. I

2423
02:05:07,200 --> 02:05:09,680
Speaker 2: think by this point you pretty much have all the

2424
02:05:09,680 --> 02:05:12,440
Speaker 2: context you need, you have all the information you need,

2425
02:05:13,000 --> 02:05:15,360
Speaker 2: and whether or not they win or lose. This game

2426
02:05:15,840 --> 02:05:20,280
Speaker 2: has little impact on the results or the plan or

2427
02:05:20,320 --> 02:05:23,680
Speaker 2: the way you plan to execute going into the offseason. Now,

2428
02:05:23,720 --> 02:05:26,120
Speaker 2: maybe there's some stuff about Dalton Reisner, maybe there's some

2429
02:05:26,160 --> 02:05:30,160
Speaker 2: stuff about the young linebackers that you can look at

2430
02:05:30,280 --> 02:05:33,240
Speaker 2: and maybe give you a little bit more information. Sure,

2431
02:05:34,200 --> 02:05:36,400
Speaker 2: but I don't know that anything that happens Sunday is

2432
02:05:36,440 --> 02:05:39,400
Speaker 2: going to completely change the way that the Bengals view

2433
02:05:39,560 --> 02:05:42,840
Speaker 2: or approach this offseason. Well, take a break, we'll come back.

2434
02:05:42,920 --> 02:05:46,600
Speaker 2: This is Tony Pike's Friday Football Frenzy on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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02:05:47,000 --> 02:05:50,240
Speaker 3: You've been listening to Football in the NATI, brought to

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02:05:50,280 --> 02:05:55,040
Speaker 3: you by Cincinnati Tax Resolution powered by Tope Sheldon on

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02:05:55,520 --> 02:06:00,680
Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen point thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

2438
02:06:02,280 --> 02:06:06,720
Speaker 2: Was looking for Mo no mo No Tony on quick Hits.

2439
02:06:06,760 --> 02:06:10,480
Speaker 2: Today they are on bowl game duty, the Bearcats getting

2440
02:06:10,480 --> 02:06:12,840
Speaker 2: set to play in about an hour and forty five

2441
02:06:12,880 --> 02:06:15,800
Speaker 2: minutes or so from right now in the Liberty Bowl

2442
02:06:15,960 --> 02:06:19,200
Speaker 2: in Memphis. You'll be able to hear them on seven

2443
02:06:19,320 --> 02:06:21,800
Speaker 2: hundred WLW coming up after me though, of course, the

2444
02:06:21,800 --> 02:06:24,520
Speaker 2: Bengals pep rally show. I believe it'll be box and

2445
02:06:24,640 --> 02:06:27,400
Speaker 2: lap getting you set for the final game of the

2446
02:06:27,480 --> 02:06:31,760
Speaker 2: season for the Bengals. We'll update the injury report for

2447
02:06:31,800 --> 02:06:33,920
Speaker 2: the Bengals, which just came out in just a minute.

2448
02:06:33,920 --> 02:06:36,800
Speaker 2: We'll also look ahead to the weekend schedule, college basketball

2449
02:06:36,920 --> 02:06:40,480
Speaker 2: and more in just a moment. But first we bring

2450
02:06:40,520 --> 02:06:42,800
Speaker 2: on a special guest. And when I look down at

2451
02:06:42,840 --> 02:06:44,560
Speaker 2: my phone today and saw that I got a text

2452
02:06:44,600 --> 02:06:47,640
Speaker 2: from Johnny Moon asking to come on the air, I thought, Okay,

2453
02:06:47,680 --> 02:06:50,080
Speaker 2: he's gonna talk to me about the buck guys, He's

2454
02:06:50,120 --> 02:06:52,760
Speaker 2: gonna rub it in my face. But then I read

2455
02:06:52,760 --> 02:06:55,080
Speaker 2: the text and John Moon wants to come spread the

2456
02:06:55,080 --> 02:06:57,280
Speaker 2: word about something that they're doing over at the Redding

2457
02:06:57,360 --> 02:07:00,640
Speaker 2: basketball program. John actually coaches the youth, which is a

2458
02:07:00,640 --> 02:07:04,520
Speaker 2: scary thought in and of itself, but he joins us

2459
02:07:04,560 --> 02:07:08,160
Speaker 2: now to tell us about Nick Radkey. Hello, Johnny Moon,

2460
02:07:08,160 --> 02:07:10,400
Speaker 2: how are you Austin?

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02:07:10,760 --> 02:07:12,680
Speaker 11: If I was any better, I'd bet you.

2462
02:07:14,880 --> 02:07:18,240
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's true. So you you coach

2463
02:07:18,320 --> 02:07:21,560
Speaker 2: basketball at Redding and something's going on over there that

2464
02:07:21,640 --> 02:07:24,160
Speaker 2: you want to inform people about. Tell us about this.

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02:07:25,280 --> 02:07:29,040
Speaker 11: Yeah, So some of the listeners know some dome outside

2466
02:07:29,040 --> 02:07:31,400
Speaker 11: of the Shenanigans. When I call in and have some

2467
02:07:31,480 --> 02:07:36,560
Speaker 11: fun with the show. I am a varsity assistant over

2468
02:07:36,600 --> 02:07:39,960
Speaker 11: here at Reading. This is my twenty second year, which

2469
02:07:40,280 --> 02:07:45,640
Speaker 11: yes makes me old, but but yeah, so we on

2470
02:07:45,800 --> 02:07:50,240
Speaker 11: a kind of unfortunate but his trending positively is the

2471
02:07:50,280 --> 02:07:52,160
Speaker 11: good news. We have a junior over here by the

2472
02:07:52,200 --> 02:07:58,000
Speaker 11: name of Nick Radkey, and he has been battling brain cancer,

2473
02:07:58,040 --> 02:08:02,560
Speaker 11: a kid that loves I really love basketball and just

2474
02:08:02,680 --> 02:08:06,000
Speaker 11: kind of was going through some head stuff over the summer.

2475
02:08:06,120 --> 02:08:08,640
Speaker 11: His mom didn't like it, took him in and they

2476
02:08:08,680 --> 02:08:12,440
Speaker 11: discovered that he had a brain tumor. So here we

2477
02:08:12,520 --> 02:08:18,320
Speaker 11: are the new year. After four brain surgery. Nick is

2478
02:08:18,600 --> 02:08:24,600
Speaker 11: now starting his chemo next week with a full plan

2479
02:08:24,800 --> 02:08:28,320
Speaker 11: of trying to return to play for US next year,

2480
02:08:28,760 --> 02:08:32,680
Speaker 11: which would be huge and more importantly, you know, to

2481
02:08:32,680 --> 02:08:37,160
Speaker 11: get him healthy, healthy enough to play basketball would be unbelievable.

2482
02:08:38,320 --> 02:08:41,200
Speaker 11: So what we have, you know, obviously with all the

2483
02:08:41,800 --> 02:08:44,760
Speaker 11: medical bills that his family has been piling up, as

2484
02:08:44,800 --> 02:08:50,240
Speaker 11: everybody can imagine that, we are doing some an event

2485
02:08:50,480 --> 02:08:54,160
Speaker 11: tomorrow here at Reading High School and it is going

2486
02:08:54,240 --> 02:08:56,960
Speaker 11: to be called We're calling it a night for Nick,

2487
02:08:58,400 --> 02:09:03,360
Speaker 11: and what it is basically our seventh, our eighth, our freshmen,

2488
02:09:03,520 --> 02:09:07,560
Speaker 11: our jv and our varsity are all playing on the

2489
02:09:07,600 --> 02:09:11,000
Speaker 11: same day tomorrow, with our seventh graders starting the festivities

2490
02:09:11,040 --> 02:09:15,400
Speaker 11: off at noon and then our varsity game is currently

2491
02:09:15,440 --> 02:09:21,080
Speaker 11: scheduled to tip at at five point thirty. We are

2492
02:09:21,120 --> 02:09:24,280
Speaker 11: gonna have some different fundraisers split the pot. We have

2493
02:09:24,440 --> 02:09:30,520
Speaker 11: several baskets here. My wife works for a local orthodonics.

2494
02:09:30,560 --> 02:09:34,160
Speaker 11: They are giving away like close to it's like five

2495
02:09:34,240 --> 02:09:39,040
Speaker 11: hundred dollars for treatment there. We have several different baskets

2496
02:09:39,040 --> 02:09:42,560
Speaker 11: that we're raffling off. We have other fundraisers to try

2497
02:09:42,600 --> 02:09:45,600
Speaker 11: and assist, you know, Nick and his family with all

2498
02:09:45,640 --> 02:09:50,600
Speaker 11: the obvious medical bills that they are incurring right now.

2499
02:09:51,720 --> 02:09:54,600
Speaker 11: You know, I know it's late. Notice we'd love to

2500
02:09:54,640 --> 02:09:58,520
Speaker 11: see some new faces, you know, in the crowd. If

2501
02:09:58,520 --> 02:10:03,160
Speaker 11: you're not able to make we certainly understand that. And

2502
02:10:03,240 --> 02:10:06,920
Speaker 11: if anybody would like to donate. We have a local

2503
02:10:07,280 --> 02:10:12,200
Speaker 11: parent here in Redding who is allowing VENMO donations to her.

2504
02:10:12,320 --> 02:10:15,920
Speaker 11: If I can give that address up, that's yeah, you okay,

2505
02:10:16,480 --> 02:10:22,760
Speaker 11: So it is at Heather dash Cox Dash oh five

2506
02:10:22,800 --> 02:10:25,240
Speaker 11: and I'll spell that out, so it's the AT symbol

2507
02:10:25,920 --> 02:10:30,920
Speaker 11: h e A T H E R dash c o

2508
02:10:31,400 --> 02:10:38,520
Speaker 11: X Dash zero five and obviously any assistance that you, anybody,

2509
02:10:38,640 --> 02:10:40,800
Speaker 11: any of the listeners would like to get that would

2510
02:10:40,840 --> 02:10:44,680
Speaker 11: be greatly appreciated. You know, we obviously have a lot

2511
02:10:44,720 --> 02:10:47,280
Speaker 11: of fun with with you and Tony and shocker he's

2512
02:10:47,320 --> 02:10:52,920
Speaker 11: not working today. But but you guys also, you know

2513
02:10:53,120 --> 02:10:56,120
Speaker 11: you and I know you hearing enough, but we can't

2514
02:10:56,160 --> 02:10:59,200
Speaker 11: thank you enough for you know one whiting in our

2515
02:10:59,280 --> 02:11:02,760
Speaker 11: day up at we're to you know, bringing awareness to

2516
02:11:03,200 --> 02:11:07,640
Speaker 11: great causes like this. Yeah, it's good that you guys

2517
02:11:07,640 --> 02:11:10,080
Speaker 11: are you know, here and have fun with it. Yet

2518
02:11:10,080 --> 02:11:13,440
Speaker 11: at the same time, you know, when when some rallying,

2519
02:11:13,560 --> 02:11:15,600
Speaker 11: so to speak, needs to be done. I think that

2520
02:11:15,760 --> 02:11:20,280
Speaker 11: the fifteen thirty, you know, the three sixty audience, it

2521
02:11:20,400 --> 02:11:21,440
Speaker 11: was certainly rallied.

2522
02:11:21,920 --> 02:11:25,920
Speaker 2: That's yeah, that's true. And so it starts tomorrow at noon,

2523
02:11:26,080 --> 02:11:30,040
Speaker 2: starting with the seventh grade over at reading at the

2524
02:11:30,120 --> 02:11:33,400
Speaker 2: high school, and then it'll go all the way through

2525
02:11:33,440 --> 02:11:37,160
Speaker 2: the varsity game. You can, as Johnny mentioned, you can

2526
02:11:37,320 --> 02:11:39,760
Speaker 2: donate via Venmo, or you can come to the game,

2527
02:11:39,800 --> 02:11:43,680
Speaker 2: and there's different ways to raise money for Nick's medical bills.

2528
02:11:43,720 --> 02:11:47,560
Speaker 2: In the you said four brain surgeries that he's had.

2529
02:11:48,480 --> 02:11:50,600
Speaker 11: He has been through four, and I'll tell you, like,

2530
02:11:51,160 --> 02:11:55,480
Speaker 11: there's some days you know he's obviously he's still a

2531
02:11:55,480 --> 02:11:57,320
Speaker 11: part of our team, and you know, one of our

2532
02:11:57,360 --> 02:12:00,320
Speaker 11: We try to preach communications. Nick obviously had I've been

2533
02:12:00,320 --> 02:12:03,600
Speaker 11: here all year. He still texts our head coach every

2534
02:12:03,680 --> 02:12:05,960
Speaker 11: day and lets him know if he's going to be

2535
02:12:05,960 --> 02:12:08,760
Speaker 11: a practice, if he's not gonna be a practice, you know,

2536
02:12:08,840 --> 02:12:13,160
Speaker 11: he'll send, hey, I'm just not feeling good today. I'm tired. Obviously,

2537
02:12:13,480 --> 02:12:15,960
Speaker 11: needless to say, we understand that. But he's just a

2538
02:12:16,000 --> 02:12:20,800
Speaker 11: great kid, really loves basketball, and we're really hoping that

2539
02:12:20,880 --> 02:12:24,600
Speaker 11: this thing continues to trend in a positive direction, with

2540
02:12:25,280 --> 02:12:29,120
Speaker 11: obviously his health being first and foremost, but even you know,

2541
02:12:29,920 --> 02:12:32,520
Speaker 11: a little better outcome would be if he can actually

2542
02:12:32,520 --> 02:12:34,880
Speaker 11: get back on the floor next year and contribute, because

2543
02:12:34,880 --> 02:12:37,680
Speaker 11: he he would have been a major contributor to our

2544
02:12:37,720 --> 02:12:43,240
Speaker 11: team this year, but for obvious reasons, he's unable to

2545
02:12:43,680 --> 02:12:46,000
Speaker 11: be here with us all the time. But when he

2546
02:12:46,080 --> 02:12:49,320
Speaker 11: can make it, he is here and just a great

2547
02:12:49,400 --> 02:12:50,560
Speaker 11: kid and a great family.

2548
02:12:50,680 --> 02:12:55,960
Speaker 2: So again, yes, sir, sounds like a Johnny, thank you

2549
02:12:56,000 --> 02:12:58,440
Speaker 2: for coming on and spreading the word a little bit.

2550
02:12:58,560 --> 02:13:01,960
Speaker 2: Good luck tomorrow, good luck to Nick, and we hope

2551
02:13:01,960 --> 02:13:04,120
Speaker 2: we get some new faces in the crowd for you man.

2552
02:13:04,160 --> 02:13:06,160
Speaker 2: Thank you all right, appreciate you.

2553
02:13:06,240 --> 02:13:06,760
Speaker 11: Thanks buddy.

2554
02:13:06,840 --> 02:13:09,760
Speaker 2: That is Johnny Moon over at Reading High School tomorrow

2555
02:13:09,800 --> 02:13:16,120
Speaker 2: starting at noon with the seventh grade team. Quickly, the

2556
02:13:16,160 --> 02:13:18,040
Speaker 2: schedule for the rest of the day. You see a

2557
02:13:18,160 --> 02:13:21,520
Speaker 2: Navy Liberty Bowl four thirty. How about tomorrow It'll be

2558
02:13:21,640 --> 02:13:27,240
Speaker 2: Uce and Houston battling at two pm. Xavier is at

2559
02:13:27,480 --> 02:13:32,680
Speaker 2: Baul at DePaul at two pm. Kentucky at Alabama at noon.

2560
02:13:32,800 --> 02:13:36,800
Speaker 2: Right here on ESPN fifteen thirty. Sunday is Brown's Bengals

2561
02:13:37,160 --> 02:13:40,280
Speaker 2: at pay Corpse Stadium at four pm. Sunday It'll be

2562
02:13:40,320 --> 02:13:44,920
Speaker 2: Youngstown State at NKU. That's at four pm on Fox

2563
02:13:44,960 --> 02:13:48,800
Speaker 2: Sports thirteen sixty. Quickly the Bengals injury report ahead of

2564
02:13:48,800 --> 02:13:52,560
Speaker 2: the game against the Browns. Cam Grandy is questionable with

2565
02:13:52,600 --> 02:13:56,919
Speaker 2: a chest injury. BJ Hill questionable with an ankle injury.

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Speaker 2: Wide receiver Charlie Jones, center at Lee, cornerback Josh Newton,

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Speaker 2: and defensive end Joseph Osai have all been officially listed

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Speaker 2: as out for the game against Cleveland, the big one

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Speaker 2: there obviously being BJ Hill and Joseph Osai both being

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Speaker 2: out or bj Hill being questionable Joseph Osai being out

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Speaker 2: for the game on Sunday. Bengals PEP Rally show with

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Speaker 2: Box and lap is next. Thanks so much for listening.

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Speaker 2: We're back to a normal show in a normal schedule

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Speaker 2: on Sunday or on Monday. I'm reading this tweet now

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Speaker 2: from the Browns. Harold Fannin, Carshon Schwestinger, and David and

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Speaker 2: Joku have all been ruled out for the Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 2: in Cincinnati on Sunday, So gonna be gonna be an

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Speaker 2: interesting game for sure. Right I'm out of here. Thanks

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Speaker 2: so much for listening. We'll talk to you again on Monday.

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Speaker 2: This has been Tony Pike's Friday football frenzy right here

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Speaker 2: on the home of the Bengals, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen. There