1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike, Cincy three sixty about Cincinnati. From Cincinnati. 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 3 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 2: Here we go our three Cincy three sixty, ESPN fifteen 4 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 2: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Good to have you along. Thanks 5 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: for joining us. One more hour to go. Phone lines 6 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: are open five one, three, seven, four nine, fifteen thirty. 7 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 2: The Chargers and quarterback Deane Leonard have agreed to a 8 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 2: one year, two million dollar deal which he's a big 9 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 2: special teams performer. He stays in LA. That is the 10 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 2: latest happening in the National Football League. Let's talk a 11 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: little more Austin about Hunter Green and the Cincinnati Reds. 12 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 2: It was reported earlier today our good friend Charlie Goldsmith. 13 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 2: I'm using Charlie's chalkboard, which is fantastic. If you don't 14 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: follow along and subscribe with Charlie's chalkboard, you are missing 15 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: out on a ton. But we were made aware last 16 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 2: week of the news around Hunter Green and the elbow 17 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: issue that he was going through. And actually in this piece, 18 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: Nick Crawl kind of could tell early on in spring 19 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 2: training because he wasn't throwing his split finger at all. 20 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: He was having trouble pulling his slider. So here's the timeline. 21 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 2: Last year, Hunter Green dealt with elbow discomfort in the 22 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 2: final month of the season. In late October, he met 23 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:43,199 Speaker 2: with doctor Neil Elatrosh and it was recommended that Hunter 24 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 2: Green did APRP injection. The injection helped Hunter Green felt 25 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 2: better in the offseason, but then a week before spring training, 26 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 2: hunter Green felt the discomfort again. And it has ultimately 27 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: led to where we're at now. And where we're at 28 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: now is Hunter Green scheduling to have a scope of 29 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 2: his elbow tomorrow to remove loose bodies and bone chips. 30 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: Fourteen to sixteen week is the timeline for Hunter Green 31 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 2: where he hopes to be back on the mound at 32 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: some point in July, says Charlie Goldsmith. Now, the part 33 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 2: that I think stood out to you, I know, Austin, 34 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 2: and to me right away was this quote from Terry 35 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,119 Speaker 2: Francona about Hunter Green at the end of last year. 36 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 2: He never told me directly any of that. He has 37 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 2: mentioned it to Derek Johnson. He was always telling me 38 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 2: he was good. I like the way he was pitching. 39 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 2: The trainers were never going to send someone out there 40 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 2: if they shouldn't pitch or play. Ever, it's hard. Sometimes 41 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 2: if you sat everybody, you'd never have a team. You 42 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: can't see inside people's bodies. It can be a little difficult. 43 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 2: And to be clear, you can see inside bodies with 44 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 2: an MRI or an X ray or anything like that. 45 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 2: But let's start there. Austin then he never told me directly. 46 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 2: He was always telling me he was good. What do 47 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 2: you make of that chain of command and those conversations 48 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 2: between Hunter Green, who was obviously telling Derek Johnson he 49 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 2: wasn't good, and what he was telling the head coach 50 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: or the manager for the Reds nink. 51 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 3: There's two ways to look at a number One. Hunter 52 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 3: Green wants to pitch, he wants to compete, He wants 53 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 3: to help the Reds get to the playoffs. He felt 54 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 3: like he was good enough to do that, so he 55 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 3: wasn't gonna raise an alarm about his elbow to Terry Francona. 56 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 3: And I think there's probably some validity to that. If 57 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 3: you look at Hunter Green's last five starts, he was 58 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 3: fantastic in every single one of them except one. On 59 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 3: September thirteenth in Sacramento, he pitched two and a third 60 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 3: innings gave up five earned runs a couple of homers. 61 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 3: The Reds lost that game to the A's, but at 62 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 3: the beginning of September, he went six and the thirds 63 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 3: gave up one run. Red's won on September seven against 64 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 3: the Mets, huge game when seven innings gave. 65 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: Up one run. 66 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 3: Reds won the Cubs game on September eighteenth, complete game, shutout, 67 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 3: nine innings, gave up just one hit, struck out nine, 68 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 3: and the final game of the season his final start 69 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 3: of the season against Pittsburgh. They lost the game, but 70 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 3: he went six innings and gave up just two runs. 71 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 3: So clearly the ability, despite dealing with the elbow was there, 72 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 3: and so Hunter Green afterwards talks to Neil Elatrosh and 73 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 3: after pitching really well down the stretch, Elatrosh says, you 74 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 3: might be good with just an injection, So he does that. 75 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 2: I don't blame. 76 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 3: Him, especially considering how well he pitched through that, to think, Okay, 77 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 3: I can still pitch through this and it's not as 78 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 3: big of a deal maybe as I think, especially with 79 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 3: the consultation with the best elbow doctor in the world 80 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 3: that says, hey, I think this is going to help you. 81 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 3: Now that I understand that part of it, and that 82 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 3: he met with Neil Latrosh it makes more sense to me. 83 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 3: But I also can't help but think, if this is 84 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 3: going to be a long term issue, if this is 85 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 3: going to be something I have to pitch through constantly, 86 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 3: why not get it cleaned up right away? But to 87 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 3: your point, the fact that he's communicating with Terry Francona 88 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 3: through Derek Johnson, I think that's cause for concern. 89 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. I guess my only thought is, as you mentioned, 90 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 2: why not just clean it out so it never becomes 91 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 2: it doesn't become a problem again, Like put it past you, 92 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 2: use the offseason rest and make sure you're one hundred 93 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 2: percent healthy. It's a player that's been compromised every year. 94 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 2: Why run the risk of putting it putting it out 95 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 2: there in that way? Why run the risk of allowing 96 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 2: this door to be opened to where the injection ultimately 97 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 2: doesn't work, and now you've wasted a whole offseason and 98 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 2: you've put yourself well behind. 99 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 3: I think the best explanation for that is nobody wants 100 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 3: to have surgery if you don't have to have surgery. 101 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see, I could see that. But for 102 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 2: Hunter Green, who's dealt with multiple different things and has 103 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 2: kind of By the way he talked, I thought Hunter 104 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 2: Green knew he's had these for a while. Get him 105 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 2: cleaned up, move on, don't allow it to become even 106 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: more of an issue. Regardless. Now it is an issue. Now, 107 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 2: Hunter Green is going to be out till at some point, 108 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 2: probably in July, if everything goes well, that being the case, Austin, 109 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 2: can this team survive a team that has a small 110 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 2: margin frere already? Can this team survive with Chase Brown's 111 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 2: Reht Louder or Chase Burns Reht Louder Brandon Williamson picking 112 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 2: up some of those starts? 113 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think so. I was asked this morning, 114 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 3: how does this change the outlook for the Reds? And 115 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 3: I said, hopefully not that much. I mean, if Louder 116 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 3: and Burns are who we think they are, and the 117 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 3: offense is better like we expect it to be, then 118 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 3: they should be able to withstand that stretch of time 119 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: without putting themselves in a complete hole in the National 120 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 3: League Central You would think, how much pressure does it 121 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 3: put on you know, let's say a blister from Nickelodolo, Yeah, 122 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 3: or something, it completely cuts down the margin Freyr, especially 123 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 3: with an abbot in Lodolo at the top of that rotation. 124 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 3: And it's not like any of those dudes have really 125 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 3: been dominant in spring training. Abbot's been okay, Lodolo's been fine, 126 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 3: Louder and Burns have been okay, They've been fine. Brady Singer, 127 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 3: I feel like he's barely pitched. 128 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I've not heard anything about Brady 129 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: Singer either way. It's like, Okay, that's fine. 130 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,119 Speaker 3: And then I think the bullpen has the worst era 131 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 3: in baseball in spring training, which is not a good idea, 132 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 3: not a good sign. I guess you could say I'm 133 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 3: always stuck because I don't feel like it's right to 134 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 3: come up with an opinion based off what happens in goodyear. 135 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 3: But also, this is all I have to go off of. 136 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 3: I can't really go off of last year. 137 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 2: And and the issue becomes, what is everything we talked 138 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 2: about with this offense in the offseason was based on 139 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 2: the premise of what they've got, such a good pitching staff, 140 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 2: they just got to be an okay offense, right if 141 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 2: the pitching staff takes another hit, is this offense equipped 142 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 2: to carry the load and score enough runs consistently based 143 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 2: on what we've seen, you hope again everything is built 144 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 2: off the gifts and the hopes that we've talked about, 145 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 2: but everything around this offense was built in the sense 146 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 2: of and they just got to be an okay offense 147 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 2: because their pitching is going to be so good and 148 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 2: the ceiling of their staff is one of the top 149 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 2: five staffs in all of baseball. And now all of 150 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 2: a sudden you start to talk in a little bit 151 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 2: different sense because there is an unknown with Hunter Green, 152 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 2: and let's call it what it is. For a long 153 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 2: time now, there has been an unknown with Nick Lodolo 154 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 2: and the consistency of what he can make starts, and 155 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 2: all that now comes into question going forward. There was 156 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 2: one positive that happened with the Reds yesterday, and that 157 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 2: was Rees Hines hit a ball that has the ball 158 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 2: actually landed one nineteen off the bat. I think it 159 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 2: was you mentioned earlier about a possible outfield problem for 160 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Reds, and I don't think an outfield problem 161 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 2: that many thought we were going to be talking about. 162 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 2: But is the outfield Austin has said as we thought 163 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 2: it was, or are there players that are making a 164 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 2: little bit of a push. 165 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 3: At this I don't think it's ever been set. I mean, 166 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 3: other than TJ. Friedel, I mean, Noelvi Marte has not 167 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 3: had a good spring training, Spencer Steers still hasn't played 168 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 3: that position at all. JJ Blede and Will Benson are 169 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 3: seemingly going pound for pound every single opportunity. And then, 170 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 3: as you mentioned, Reese Hines continues to improve his plate 171 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 3: discipline and his defense has gotten better. He's one of 172 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 3: the fastest players in the organization, has incredible power. So yeah, 173 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 3: I mean, I think the way that that whole thing 174 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 3: shakes out, I'm just really confused by the Spencer Steer 175 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 3: aspect because I thought he would be playing Mari and 176 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 3: I understand it's hard to play outfield in Arizona, but hell, 177 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 3: I mean that all of a sudden feels like one 178 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 3: of the deepest positions in the organization after years of futility. 179 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's take a break, let's come back. We'll put 180 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 2: a bow on this Red conversation. I want to look 181 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 2: at a little bit from a mock draft standpoint of 182 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 2: how things stand after day one of the legal tampoing period, 183 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 2: and what day one meant to the rest of the 184 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 2: AFC North. We'll do that along with a phone call 185 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 2: or too. Next on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 186 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 4: From locker room whispers to stadium roars. 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Meanwhile, also in the AFC East, I'm 225 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 3: coming home. I'm coming home. Tell the world tone, I'm 226 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 3: coming home. The Raiders have traded Geno Smith back to 227 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 3: the New York Jets. 228 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 7: Wow. 229 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 3: It is a sixth and seventh round pick swap, sending 230 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 3: Gino back to New York. He of course began his 231 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 3: career there and is expected to be the starting quarterback 232 00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 3: all right for the New York Jets. 233 00:12:59,520 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 2: Gino? 234 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:05,839 Speaker 3: Next, do you say the move for the Raiders? 235 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 2: Did the Jets? Also? I saw Colt's offensive tackle Brydon Smith. Yes, 236 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 2: has reached a deal with the Houston Texans two years, 237 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 2: twenty five million, So the Texans actually do something to 238 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 2: try to protect c. J. Stroud. 239 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 3: I saw that the Texans had apparently had some issues 240 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 3: with the contract structures like that the NFL denied the 241 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 3: contracts that they submitted, and apparently it's like a described 242 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 3: as semantics. I don't know exactly what that means, but 243 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 3: I did think imagine if the Bengals had submitted a 244 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 3: contract the NFL was like, oh my gosh, you imagine 245 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 3: what people. 246 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 2: Would be saying. No, I don't want to even think 247 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 2: about it. Back to that in just a second. Let's 248 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 2: round out the Hunter Green conversation with Mark. What's going on? Mark? 249 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 8: I gotta say one today? 250 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 2: Good? 251 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 8: Hey, Yeah, I just wanted to something. 252 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 9: To think about. 253 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 8: Got Terry Francona, who comes in last year as a 254 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 8: new manager, as the pitcher that's number one and been 255 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 8: there for a few years. I think there's some I 256 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 8: don't know what you want to call it, but I 257 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 8: think there's some something going on between the two of them. 258 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 8: The manager comes in, he wants to set precedence, and 259 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 8: I think his precedence was basically saying, we don't want 260 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 8: to be the team that has just a couple of superstars. 261 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 8: We want to have everybody be as good as they are. 262 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 8: And that might have just bruk Hunter Green, you know 263 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 8: a little bit. Who knows, But I think there's something 264 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 8: going on between the two of them. And then the 265 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 8: second thing is, do you mean tell me that DJ 266 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 8: did not go to Frank Conah and tell him what 267 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 8: Hunter Grant had been talking about. 268 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 3: No, I think he did. I think that's how Frank 269 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 3: ConA knew. 270 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 2: But I think the interesting thing is that Frank cone 271 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 2: also said that whenever I asked Hunter, he said he 272 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 2: was fine. Sorry. If Derek Johnson is saying, hey, Hunters, 273 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 2: tell me he's got some discomfort, and then and Frank 274 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 2: ConA talks to him and Hunter's like, no, I'm good. 275 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 2: Then what do you do if you're Terry Francona that 276 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 2: there is something there that that just doesn't feel normal 277 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 2: at this point. I don't know what it is and 278 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 2: and we don't have knowledge of that, but I could 279 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 2: see I could see something there, a little bit of 280 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 2: a crack in the foundation. 281 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 8: I agree, Thank you, Thank you, appreciate that. 282 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 2: Thank you. Yeah, I don't I don't know. We don't 283 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 2: know the behind the scenes dealings of what that looks like. 284 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 2: But you you probably could come to some type of 285 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 2: conclusion Austin, that there is a little bit of a 286 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 2: crack there in the armor. 287 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 3: It just seems weird to me. Yeah, that's all. Yep, 288 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 3: I have questions about their relationship. That's all agreed. 289 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 2: Let's do this with the AFC North real quick, based 290 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 2: on what teams around the league and around the AFC 291 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 2: North did yesterday. Let's start with the uh the Baltimore 292 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 2: Ravens here, because Baltimore is one of the most interesting 293 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 2: case studies to me, Austin, because they make the huge 294 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 2: splash that is Max Crosby. But after Max Crosby, this 295 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 2: team has lost Isaiah Likely, they lost their best blocking 296 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 2: tight end, and Charlie Kohler. They lost an all Pro 297 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 2: center and Tyler Linderbaum. They lost their number two running 298 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 2: back all around, Lamar Jackson. They have an offensive coordinator 299 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 2: who's not called plays in the National Football League yet. 300 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 2: And yes, you are better on defense, you have added 301 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 2: a Max Crosby, But are we viewing the Ravens as 302 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 2: that much better at this point on defense? Maybe? But 303 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 2: are we overlooking how many losses this team have sustained 304 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 2: on the offensive side of the ball with a quarterback 305 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 2: in Lamar Jackson who wasn't necessarily playing his best football 306 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 2: down the stretch Last year. 307 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 3: Six players gone, Two first round picks gone Max Crosby 308 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 3: in return. Now, they did get the most compensatory picks 309 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 3: of any team with four, tied for the most with 310 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh and Philadelphia in this coming draft because of they 311 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 3: had the same situation happened last year where they lost 312 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 3: a bunch of players and didn't necessarily recoup that in 313 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 3: free agency. So you know, I was talking to you 314 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 3: about this before the show. Yeah, the Max Crosby thing 315 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 3: is a big deal. But their offensive line was no 316 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 3: good last year. And as of now, Kevin Zeitler's a 317 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 3: free agent. I mean, I know he's moved on to 318 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 3: other places, but that's somebody that was a potential fit 319 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 3: for them. Like, they have to go up against Miles 320 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 3: Garrett twice a year, They have to go up against 321 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 3: t J. 322 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 2: Watt twice a year. 323 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 3: And I'm not putting boy A Mafey and Miles Murphy 324 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 3: on those guys level, But all of a sudden, the 325 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 3: Bengals pass rush is a lot more formidable, and you 326 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 3: would think that would help the interior based off the 327 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 3: stuff that you got to worry about on the outside. 328 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 3: And the same goes for Pittsburgh. Their best offensive lineman left, 329 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 3: I believe, went to the Arizona Cardinals. Yes, their offensive 330 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 3: line stinks too, it was bad last year, yea. And 331 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 3: they have to face Miles Garrett twice. They have to 332 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 3: face Max Crosby twice. And you could say the same 333 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 3: thing for Pittsburgh or for Cleveland. They've spent a lot 334 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 3: of money on their offensive line last couple of days, 335 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 3: made a trade for Titus Howard. That's still a big 336 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 3: weakness for them. Yeah, and they have to face what 337 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 3: and Crosby and the Bengals twice a year as well. 338 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 3: I look around on him, thinking, all right, Bengals still 339 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 3: have the best offensive line of the division, and it's 340 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 3: really not even close right now. Despite the fact that 341 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 3: they have to go up against Watt, Crosby and Garrett 342 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 3: six times in the season, there's still major problems on 343 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 3: the offense of every single one of those teams. Cleveland 344 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 3: and Pittsburgh don't have a quarterback, right Lamar Jackson has 345 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 3: no weapons to throw to. Like, still looking at the 346 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 3: division and looking at the schedule, and now that the 347 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 3: defense is marginally and you can't, right, you can't set 348 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 3: it in stone that the Bengals have a great defense. 349 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 3: It's way too early. And shout out to Stone being Genosung. 350 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 3: You just you feel a lot better right now about 351 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 3: their chances and know that the Bengals have had a 352 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 3: lot of work to do, but so too does the 353 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,719 Speaker 3: rest of the division, and the Bengals I think are 354 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 3: ahead of them. 355 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it was I thought it was interesting 356 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 2: how much they've lost on the offensive side of the ball. Pittsburgh, 357 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 2: you mentioned that the losses they do add Michael Pittman, 358 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 2: they get Jamel Dean and Rico Dowdell along with a 359 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 2: new coach and Mike McCarthy. 360 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 3: I will say I really like the Rico Dowdles signing 361 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 3: that just feels like the type of runner they want. 362 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 3: He's a smart player, he's good in the past game. 363 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 3: Dk Metcalf still there, fire moves. He's kind of like 364 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 3: Kenneth Gainwell, but a better actual running back. 365 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 2: I think that's a good move for Pittsburgh. And then 366 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns, they they went and got a couple 367 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 2: offensive lineman yesterday, Zion Johnson and Titus Howard. 368 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 3: They did sign Quincy Williams Devin Bush, and Devin Bush 369 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 3: played well for them last year. Uh so that's probably 370 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 3: about as good as you can do and trying to 371 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 3: replace that specific position. 372 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 2: But I'm with you. 373 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 3: I mean, all the defenses are going to be good. 374 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 3: I think now the Bengals probably still have the furthest 375 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 3: to go on the defensive side of the ball, but 376 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 3: they have the best offense by far. 377 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. I just I feel like there's just 378 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 2: a lot of there's a lot out there of Ravens, 379 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 2: Ravens Ravens and Max Crosby. That team. There's just so 380 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 2: much they lost on offense field. Yates of ESPN dot 381 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 2: Com did a free agency prediction based on kind of 382 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 2: the the first day of free agency and what happened 383 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 2: and now what teams needs may look like. Listen to 384 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 2: some of these changes. Now, Austin Fernando Mendoza is still 385 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 2: number one, and we both are in agreement. We like 386 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 2: what the Raiders have done to this point. It feels 387 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 2: like they've signed a ton of people and they still 388 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 2: got a ton of money left. But the Raiders have 389 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 2: done some good things up to this point. The New 390 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 2: York Jets at number two take David Bailey. Rvel Rees 391 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 2: moves up to number three with the Arizona Cardinals. Carnell 392 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 2: Tay now goes to number four to the Tennessee Titans 393 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 2: after they just got Wandell Robinson in free agency, they 394 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 2: get cam Ward another weapon. Caleb Downs goes at number 395 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 2: five to the New York Giants. Francis Malayaga, no, dang it, 396 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 2: give it one more shot. I don't know, Maliinoa. Yes, 397 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 2: Francis and the Browns get another offensive line, and they 398 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 2: completely revamped their offensive line. Jeremiah loved to the commanders 399 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 2: at number seven, they I'm blaming They landed a premier 400 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 2: pass rusher yesterday as well. That would be okay. So 401 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 2: they go running back the New Orleans Saints. They take 402 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 2: Sonny Styles at number nine. The Kansas City's Chiefs take 403 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 2: Mansor Delaney, which means in field Yates. Post Day one 404 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 2: mock draft, the Bengals land Reuben Bain Junior at number ten. Okay, 405 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 2: I would be all for that. Sign me up, Ruben 406 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 2: Bain Junior, boy a Mafe, Brian Cook, leo' chanell. Maybe, Oh, 407 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,719 Speaker 2: can we talk that into existence, make that happen? Come 408 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 2: on with that now. Are you surprised it's been as 409 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 2: quiet as it has been today? 410 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 7: Uh? 411 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 9: No. 412 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 3: I feel like this happens every year where starts off 413 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 3: really really quick and then there's just a breakdown for 414 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 3: a second, and I figure by the end of the 415 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 3: day there'll be some more. 416 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 417 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 3: I also saw some people say they expect a lot 418 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 3: more trades to happen. We haven't really talked about that 419 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 3: possibility with the Bengals. Yeah, And I thought Andre Pirata, 420 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 3: friend of the show, kind of explained a potential trade 421 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 3: like Kenny Clark potentially for the Bengals just because of again, 422 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 3: there's nobody in that defensive tackle market that you feel 423 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 3: comfortable with now that the gosh it was at the Titans. 424 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 3: Someone earlier today released a defensive tackle Ashan Robinson, which 425 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 3: is a name that I think had been linked the 426 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 3: Bengals in free agency in years past. So maybe you 427 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 3: take a flyer on a guy like that. But yeah, 428 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 3: I wonder if there is a bj Hill like trade 429 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 3: to be had out there where you flip one of 430 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 3: those extra seventh round picks you have or one of 431 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 3: those sixth round picks that you have, and you get 432 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 3: a rotational piece on the defensive interior. I mean, obviously, 433 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 3: the bj Hill trade is probably the best in Bengals history. 434 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 3: It would be asking a lot to do that again. 435 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 3: But hell, maybe they could. 436 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 2: Would be nice. But I think or you could just 437 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 2: draft Geno Atkins in the fourth round. Well, you're right, 438 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 2: Geno Atkins is available. Essent Is Geno available? 439 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 6: Like? 440 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 2: What's he doing? He seems to be having a lovely life. 441 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 2: Is he that busy right now? 442 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 3: He's got a ton of kids. Yeah, he's got a 443 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 3: bunch of kids, and I mean, good for him. I've 444 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 3: been follow him around on Instagram for a while and 445 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 3: Gino is just one of my favorite athletes ever, A 446 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 3: right honster. It's a shame he's all happy in retirement, 447 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 3: doesn't want to come I know. 448 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 2: Uh, let's take one final break before, by the way, 449 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 2: quick hits today. When we get back a phone caller 450 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 2: two five, one three seven, fifteen thirty, maybe we'll talk 451 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 2: about how the Reds are going to take the field 452 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 2: today against the Colorado Rockies. On ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati 453 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 2: Sports Station. 454 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 7: Moeger here, if you're a Cincinnati. 455 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 2: Welcome back. It is since he three sixty on ESPN 456 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 2: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Uh, let's go. Let's grab 457 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 2: a phone line. Call here real quick, Mike. What's going on? 458 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 9: Hey, guys, thank you very much, very informative show today. 459 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 7: I learned a. 460 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 9: Lot, so I appreciate, Thank you, Thank you. Yeah, of course, 461 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 9: I I'm so proud of the Bengals. I'm just I 462 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 9: haven't been able to say this for a long time, 463 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 9: but I'm almost emotional about the fact that they're doing 464 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 9: something that looks like they care about the city of 465 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 9: Cincinnati and the fans of Cincinnati, and that's all I 466 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,959 Speaker 9: care about, more than anything else, more than Joe Burrow, 467 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 9: more than Mike Brown, more than Duke Tom and I 468 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 9: care about the people of Cincinnati that have been devout 469 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 9: of fans and have endured a lot of crap and 470 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 9: have hung in there. So it looks like maybe we're 471 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 9: making some strides. And I love the fact that they 472 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 9: got to simone guy out of out of Seattle. I 473 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 9: just I have an affinity for some Olan football players 474 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 9: because they're just really typically very very tough, tough, tough players. 475 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, they and I think they sent a message that 476 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 2: they have heard a lot of what's being talked about 477 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 2: them in the offseason and a lot of the words 478 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 2: that they've said. And more importantly, I think they understand 479 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 2: how important it is to attack this offseason much differently 480 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 2: than they've done in the past. And again from Dalton 481 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 2: Reisner and people called that a layup, and I agree 482 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 2: it was. But from the Dalton Reisner signing to moving 483 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 2: on from Trey Hendrickson, which seems like the right decision 484 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 2: that was made now to so many other things, it 485 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 2: feels like they have They've started this offseason in this 486 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 2: period very well. 487 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 9: Has the I haven't been able to keep up with 488 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 9: le puts it like you guys, But has the activity 489 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 9: slowed down a little bit today on the free agency? 490 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's not been as much that's happened up to 491 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 2: this point. I think the The latest movement was Geno 492 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 2: Smith heading back to the the the Jets from the Raiders, 493 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 2: so a quarterback on the move and the Houston Texans 494 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 2: finally got some blocking up front for CJ. Stroud. 495 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 9: Hey, Tony, you know, it's kind of funny with Geno Smith. 496 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 9: You know, people go on, you know Smith, He's just 497 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 9: been around the guys, made a great license in the NFL, 498 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 9: yep for not being the top line quarterback. And I 499 00:26:55,560 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 9: have the utmost respect for him for that. Yeah, I mean. 500 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 2: That's not easy, right Tom No, for sure, for sure, 501 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 2: he's he's one about it the right way and there 502 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 2: are people that look at negatively on his season last year, 503 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 2: but it was also very dysfunctional with the Raiders as well. 504 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 2: So an opportunity at another fresh start and kind of 505 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 2: going back to where it started for for Gino Smith. 506 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 9: Now, let me ask Luki, guys, and I know you 507 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 9: got to go, Well, if you had the pick, who 508 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 9: would you say are the two what two teams have 509 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 9: been the most successful in you? In your opinions so 510 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 9: far after day one, Austin. 511 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 2: Who would you who stands out to you? 512 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 3: I think the Raiders, I think the Bengals, Bears, have 513 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 3: done a lot. The Bears have done a lot. 514 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 2: Panthers have been very active as well. They actually just 515 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 2: re signed their versatile linebacker Isaiah Simmons, the player from 516 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 2: Clemson as well. So I like what the Carolina Panthers 517 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 2: have done as well. 518 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 5: So are we. 519 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 9: Still looking for a possible replacement for mister Brown at 520 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 9: left tackle? 521 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 2: I think that could be on the table at some point. 522 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 2: I think they need to addres linebacker. If I had 523 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 2: a checklist of what's next, I would say linebacker needs 524 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 2: to be addressed for this team. 525 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 3: I think a backup or swing tackle, the person that 526 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 3: you know would take Cody Ford's spot, is on the 527 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 3: list of things that they're gonna look at and potentially 528 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 3: to challenge Orlando Brown in training camp. 529 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 9: Yes, all right, thank you guys. I appreciate it. Have 530 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 9: a great day. 531 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 2: Thank you, Mike, appreciate that. Uh do we have a 532 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 2: lineup today for how the Reds are gonna line this 533 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 2: thing up? We sure do. We haven't double of these 534 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 2: in a while. 535 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 3: I know it feels like it's been a while since 536 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 3: we've had a Reds lineup, but. 537 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 2: I guess some updated batting. 538 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 3: They keep playing games and they'll be playing one today 539 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 3: in Scottsdale, up against the Colorado Rockies. Here's how the 540 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 3: Reds are lining up. Line them up leading off the 541 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 3: DHTJ Freedom batting second. The second basement Sal Stewart. The 542 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 3: third better is shortstop Elie de la Cruz, cleaning up 543 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 3: and batting, cleaning up and playing right field. See I'm 544 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 3: a little rusty, JJ Bleda. The fifth batter is left 545 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 3: fielder will Benson. Nathaniel low bats sixty, plays first base today. 546 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 3: The catcher is seventh batter, Jose Travino, batting eighth and 547 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 3: in center field Reese Shines. The ninth batter is third 548 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 3: baseman PJ. Higgins, with the left hander Brandon Williamson on 549 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 3: the mound. Once more for Cincinnati, it's Friedol, Stuart De 550 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 3: la Cruz, Blade, Benson, Lowe, Travino, Hines, Higgins with Williamson 551 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 3: on the mound. All right, baseball in Arizona for the 552 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 3: Cincinnati Reds. We'll get to Mowacker who was in Arizona 553 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 3: and in just a few moments. One quick note college 554 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 3: basketball wise, the Big Twelve Tournament is underway right now, 555 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 3: the Phillips sixty six Big Twelve Tournament with one second remaining. 556 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 2: Were you giving them some free club? Who's Phillips six 557 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 2: to who? I don't know. Well, maybe they're going to 558 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 2: come on board with us here, I don't know. With 559 00:29:54,640 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 2: a second remaining, Arizona State leads Baylor eighty three to seven. 560 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 2: Arizona State is going to move on and they will 561 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 2: take on Iowa State. With one second remaining, down four, 562 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 2: Arizona State has the ball. The Baylor head coach just 563 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 2: called a timeout, which I just don't understand. Just let 564 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 2: this game end because waiting by patiently and I'm guessing 565 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 2: twenty to thirty minutes in between games is what you get. 566 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 2: Once this game wraps up, you'll get an official start 567 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 2: time for game number two in the Big Twelve Tournament, 568 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 2: which is Cincinnati taking on Utah. Rest of the day 569 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 2: BYU Kansas State, Colorado, Oklahoma State as well. So that's 570 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 2: what's next this afternoon. And I think Austin we talked 571 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 2: about this off air today. I think it's a game 572 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 2: Wes Miller has to win. I think if they somehow 573 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 2: lose as a twelve and a half point favorite in 574 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 2: Round one of the Big Twelve Tournament, after they had 575 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 2: a chance to get the sixth seed on Saturday and 576 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 2: turn the ball over nineteen times. If they fall from 577 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 2: that to the nine and then lose to the sixteen 578 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 2: seed despite what they did down the stretch, that might 579 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 2: be enough that they would look to move on from 580 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 2: West Miller. I think if they get a win today 581 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 2: and get to eighteen wins on the season and have 582 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 2: a chance to play UCF tomorrow, then I think you 583 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 2: got a chance to get to that game on on 584 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 2: Thursday against Arizona for a chance, an outside chance to 585 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 2: get yourself into the bubble picture. Let's take our final break. 586 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 2: We'll come back. We'll welcome Moe eggerback right here on 587 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports. 588 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 10: Station WCKY Cincinnati and iHeartRadio Station Guaranteed Human ESPN fifteen 589 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 10: thirty I heard radio. 590 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 7: From the Stacey Heating Temp Star Weather Center. Here's your forecast. 591 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 7: This report is sponsored by the Our American Stories podcast. 592 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 2: This is Mantu mcgomnermy. 593 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: Now it's time for quick hits on Tony Tykes. Since 594 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: the three sixteen, I. 595 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 2: Was looking for Mo. Mo's back, sun kissed from the desert. 596 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 2: How was Arizona, Mo? It's good to have you back, 597 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 2: Arizona was awesome. Weather looked decent. We got I think 598 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 2: eighty seven degrees on Sunday. Are you brought back this? 599 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 7: This is nice? 600 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 2: It's been nice. 601 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 7: I came back yesterday. I felt like just a continuation 602 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 7: of the trip. 603 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 5: It was. 604 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:26,479 Speaker 7: I saw five games in four days and an absolute blast. 605 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 2: When you were out there, did you see Hunter and 606 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 2: Terry Francona talking it all? 607 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 7: I think Hunter Green talked to me about as much 608 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 7: as he talks to his manager or anybody else off. 609 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 2: The mast earlier does Tito the Great? Is that how 610 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 2: Hunter refers to Terry Francona as well, the Magnificent? 611 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 7: What would have been funny if if? When if? When 612 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 7: Tito was asked about Hunter Green, He's like, who who? 613 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 2: This is odd? Right? 614 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 7: Yes? 615 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 2: The chain of command, the lack of communication, getting the 616 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 2: injection at the end of last year, now going on 617 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 2: on the the scope, all of this is just weird, 618 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 2: especially the communication lack thereof between a player and a manager. 619 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 7: It just feels like there's a disconnect and go back 620 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 7: to last year like it just Hunter and the Reds 621 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 7: didn't appear to be on the same page when it 622 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 7: came to his return from injury. Disconnect this feels like 623 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 7: an extension of that. But like you know, I guess, 624 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 7: on one hand, you could take today as hey, look 625 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 7: it's not season ending, it's not Tommy John. He should 626 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 7: be able to pitch this year. At the same time, 627 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 7: can you really count on Hunter Green? Like I hate 628 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 7: to say that, but there's there's just sort of a 629 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 7: build up of things here. And like last year was 630 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 7: a leg injury, it was a lower body injury. The 631 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 7: two things aren't related, I guess. 632 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 6: But it just. 633 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 7: I don't you can go, well, he's gonna be here 634 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 7: in early July and he'll make seventeen or eighteen starts. 635 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 7: Can you count on that, because I don't think you can. 636 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 7: What you hope though, is that over the next two 637 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 7: or three months that these two sides can build a relationship. Yeah, 638 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 7: because it doesn't feel like they have one right now. 639 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 7: And like you may think the Red should trade Hunter Green. Okay, 640 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 7: you may think Hunter Green's overrated or overpaid. That's fine. 641 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 7: He is a key piece. It would be great if 642 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 7: you didn't have a disconnect with your key piece. That 643 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 7: disconnect may be mainly Hunter Green's fault, It may be 644 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 7: mainly a reflection of the Reds I kind of feel 645 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 7: like whenever there's a breakdown into relationship, it's the fault 646 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 7: of all the parties. 647 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 2: But it's got to get fixed. 648 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,919 Speaker 7: Hunter Green's elbows got to get fixed, and I feel 649 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,240 Speaker 7: like the relationship between Hunter Green and the Reds also 650 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 7: has to get fixed. 651 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 2: Basketball coming up in just a few minutes now. Tarn 652 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 2: floated an idea yesterday about just live streaming and maybe 653 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 2: not having volume, but just your reactions here. We've done 654 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 2: this before, have you guys? Have you approved this yet? 655 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:40,240 Speaker 10: Yeah? 656 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 2: Okay, good, Yeah, you sound pumped for it. 657 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 7: Yeah. Today today doesn't feel like so much about UC 658 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 7: making the NCAA Tournament as much as it feels like, 659 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,399 Speaker 7: if you're Wes Miller, you do not want to lose 660 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 7: this game, because I feel like there's a little bit 661 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 7: of a difference between losing today and tomorrow. We're losing 662 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,320 Speaker 7: against Arizona. You lose this one, you toss terrible Bearkats 663 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 7: almost lost to them already. Yeah, Like, I feel like 664 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 7: if they lose today, it's gonna undo a lot of 665 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 7: the good will built up over the last few weeks. 666 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 7: And you and I were talking about this earlier, like 667 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 7: it wasn't that they lost on Saturday. It was how 668 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 7: sloppy they were. 669 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. 670 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 7: They didn't look that. 671 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 2: Prepared, didn't look like a team fighting for their life. 672 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,839 Speaker 7: Right, No, it did look like last regular season game, 673 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,399 Speaker 7: and you legitimately have something to play for. So if 674 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 7: we see something like that today and it results in 675 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 7: a loss, like, we're not talking about the bubble, We're 676 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 7: talking about Wes Miller's bubble maybe bursting. So yeah, I 677 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 7: guess we're gonna do the chance to watch me watch 678 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 7: the game as I try to do a show. That's 679 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 7: gonna be a lot of fun. I don't want the 680 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 7: Bearcats to spoil your birthday. 681 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 2: No, No, I just want to win on my birthday 682 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 2: so I can have more hope for tomorrow. Yes, so 683 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 2: an advance and then advance win tomorrow the hope that 684 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,280 Speaker 2: I would have for Thursday. 685 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 7: Well, I mean today's day. Whether it's Santa Clara tonight, 686 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,320 Speaker 7: whether it's Virginia Tech, Stanford, SMU. Like, there's lots of 687 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 7: teams playing that are in a similar position to Cincinnati, 688 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 7: maybe not the same position as. 689 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 2: Right now, Stanford's down at eight to Pittsburgh. Yeah at half. 690 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 7: If you win today, I think you give yourself another 691 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 7: chance to play a game tomorrow that matters. You probably 692 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 7: still need to win another one after that, but it's 693 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 7: you know, make tomorrow matter. Make tomorrow when you guys 694 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 7: are off tomorrow, so you're you're not going to be you. 695 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 2: Know, we don't know about it could be Thursday to 696 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 2: what the Kentucky Wildcats do. 697 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,919 Speaker 7: So because you guys are off tomorrow and maybe off 698 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 7: the rest of the week. I've stolen from you. I've 699 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 7: stolen Charlie Goldsmith. 700 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 2: If you had to go get one, you got yours. 701 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 7: Man, Like I've told him this, Like Charlie, I love 702 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 7: your work, like Tony and Austin have you're there guy. 703 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 7: But Tarren and I were talking before it's like, well, 704 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 7: they're not having them today. They may not work the 705 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 7: rest of the week. Charley has been just crushing it 706 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,399 Speaker 7: on the Reds and Bengals, So Charlie's gonna join us. 707 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 7: Paul Danner Junior in the first hour. 708 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 2: He's like, Brian Cook, you know your top target. 709 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 7: I don't know. I flew back yesterday and I woke up. 710 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 2: Are your arms tired? Ah? 711 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 7: I had a two flights. On both flights, I fell 712 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 7: asleep in one city and I woke up in the 713 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,879 Speaker 7: next the second flight plane hits the ground. First thing 714 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,839 Speaker 7: that happens, I get duped by the fake Jordan Schultz. Yeah, 715 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 7: first time in twelve years I've been duped by a fake. 716 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 7: Then you got to put up with all the people lecturing. 717 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 7: You're like, oh, you can't do that, Like all right, man, 718 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 7: give me. 719 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 3: A break, man, Okay, you got me as well, because 720 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 3: as you know, I have your tweets sentiment phone and 721 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 3: have for almost fifteen years now, and I'm oh, mo 722 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 3: retweeted it. It must be legit, right, And so I 723 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,720 Speaker 3: went down the how I told Terrence and hey, Bengals 724 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 3: got John Franklin. 725 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 7: So here's what I've done to make up for. I 726 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 7: got the real Jordan Schultz on Monday next week. 727 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 2: Wow, So that's what I did. 728 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 7: Am I good? 729 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 5: Now? 730 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 7: Like always like Rando's like, you know, you know, hey, Mo, 731 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 7: here's how Twitter works. Like thanks, speaking of I've been 732 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 7: on it for seventeen years. 733 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,359 Speaker 3: You weren't on the air yesterday telling people that Trey 734 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 3: Henderson signed one hundred and ninety million dollar contract with 735 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys. 736 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:16,320 Speaker 7: Oh, don't want to be that guy. So anyway, playing 737 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 7: hits the ground yeah. First thing I do, look at 738 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 7: the woman next to me with that look like, hey, 739 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 7: I know it's Price Norrin. Second thing I do is 740 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 7: I get duped by the fake Jordan Schultz. Then I 741 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 7: see the Brian Cook news. 742 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:29,800 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you literally could. 743 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,280 Speaker 7: Not have hided me. Like if today was my birthday, 744 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 7: that'd be my birthday present. We are taking my least 745 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 7: favorite Bengals player ever and replacing him with one of 746 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 7: my top five all time favorite UC players, a guy 747 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,839 Speaker 7: who does specifically what we hated Gino Stone for not doing. 748 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 2: Who are the other four? 749 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:53,800 Speaker 7: Haruki Nakamura Love, Harkie, Desmond Ritter right right, Zach Kolaro's beast, 750 00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,280 Speaker 7: I'll give it to you. It's it's Harookie, Yeah, Tony Pike, Yeah, 751 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 7: des Ritter, Brian Cook. And it's the other guy who 752 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 7: got paid yesterday, Kobe Bryant. 753 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:07,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 754 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 7: My top five two at the back end of that 755 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,879 Speaker 7: defense may might not be the five best, but they're 756 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:12,840 Speaker 7: my five favorite. 757 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 2: By the way, you having Charlie on today, Charlie got 758 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 2: duped yesterday, and Paul Dana Junior commented off to Twitter, 759 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 2: jail and Charlie, I thought one of the best responses 760 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 2: in recent memory said six more weeks in goodyear for me. 761 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 7: That's his By the way, his penalty does Twitter jail 762 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 7: mean I don't have to be on it? 763 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 2: Oh, because it's a great question, right, Yeah, okay, it 764 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 2: was fine by me now. Like I was talking like 765 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 2: if they if they got Lloyd last night, it's like 766 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 2: a Grand Slam. Yes, but they hit two two solid 767 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 2: plays yesterday at positions of need, and they still have 768 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 2: the money and resources available. Like if it's me, next 769 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,360 Speaker 2: on that list is a linebacker, and I think Chanel 770 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 2: makes a lot of sense if they crossed that off. 771 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 2: Like we talked, Reisner was a layup. Yeah, Trey Hendrickson, 772 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 2: they made the right move. He's still out there, can't 773 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 2: get what he wants. And they addressed two big means 774 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 2: like they've batted one hundred so far in the offseason. Yeah. 775 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 7: I think if if you're able to get one of 776 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 7: the better linebackers available and then you know, spend the 777 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 7: next few weeks just finding other guys to build depth, 778 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 7: you can then really go into the draft going best 779 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 7: player available. You can draft an offensive guy, you could 780 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 7: take your left tackle of the future. They're suddenly to me, 781 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 7: that's what's really fun about what they've done so far 782 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 7: in free agency. I don't think for a second that 783 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 7: signing Brian Cook means that Caleb Downs is off their board. 784 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 7: I don't believe that that signing boy A Mafe makes 785 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 7: Ruben Bain not somebody that they would draft. But I 786 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,439 Speaker 7: just I love the idea of you go get free 787 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 7: dudes that kind of headline the class, fill in some 788 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 7: depth pieces, and then you're not drafting out of desperation 789 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 7: next month. Yeah, that's what's exciting to me. Look, Duke 790 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 7: Tobin has been a punching bag and deservedly so. He 791 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 7: did what he said he was gonna do. And the 792 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 7: other thing is, and I heard Paul and Charlie and 793 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 7: Jay and Mark Shallafood talk about this on Paul's podcast yesterday, 794 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,839 Speaker 7: they didn't get so preoccupied by the John Franklin Myers miss. Yeah, 795 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,360 Speaker 7: they were caught with their pants down as it relates 796 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 7: to these other two guys. So that's progress because typically 797 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 7: it feels like the Bengals can only do one thing 798 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 7: at a time. 799 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 2: Two quick things. Do you have a problem with cal 800 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,319 Speaker 2: Rowley not dopping up Randy and Rose Arena at the 801 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 2: World Baseball Classical? I don't either. No, people praise Kobe 802 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 2: for running through Palcasol in the Olympics. 803 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 7: But I do love those World Baseball Classic games. 804 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 2: Have been awesome. Atmosphere has been awesome. Secondly, a lot 805 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 2: of reports over the last couple of days in Ohio 806 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,720 Speaker 2: about Bigfoot sightings. Do you believe in Bigfoot? 807 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:45,840 Speaker 7: No? 808 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:49,800 Speaker 2: Well, in that case, we're done here. 809 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 7: At this when you see him at this stage in 810 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 7: the evolution of Bigfoot, which is weird for me to 811 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 7: say for something that doesn't exist. Okay, with all the 812 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,959 Speaker 7: people we have, our country has never been more dense. 813 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,360 Speaker 2: How many like five ers, Because when I. 814 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 7: Say our country has never been more dense, I mean 815 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 7: intellectually and I mean from a person per square foot. 816 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,800 Speaker 7: At some point we like we would have seen Bigfoot 817 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,839 Speaker 7: and like legitimately would have encountered them. 818 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 2: Maybe we have Harry and the Henderson's We're done. Heroldo 819 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,319 Speaker 2: most next on air and also available to watch as 820 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,360 Speaker 2: he watches and be fun for everybody. The Bearcats and 821 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 2: the Utes coming up in just a few the game 822 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 2: on the screen. It's next Cincinnati Sports Station. Have a 823 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 2: great rest of your. 824 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 10: Death until you see khy Cincinnati, make us the number 825 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 10: one pre set on your car radio and on the 826 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 10: free knew it improved. iHeartRadio AD Free never sounded so good. 827 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 10: ESPN fifteen thirty