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Speaker 1: Do you want to be an American?

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Speaker 2: He's got those show back seven hundred WLW. We'll get

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Speaker 2: into State of the Union stuff. I think he's still talking,

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Speaker 2: so I'll wait for the President to wrap up and

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Speaker 2: then we'll talk about him and what he said. We'll

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Speaker 2: get into that just about thirty minutes here and all

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Speaker 2: morning law and on seven hundred w ALW. I want

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Speaker 2: to start with this though. It's an interesting, interesting topic.

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Speaker 2: We know social media is toxic, right It's getting harder

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Speaker 2: to find the value of connection, and that's what it's about.

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Speaker 2: It's about connecting with friends, and you can go on

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Speaker 2: and check from people from school and high school people,

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Speaker 2: you grow up with coworkers and your circle expands and

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Speaker 2: it's great. But we are also just absolutely swamped in

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Speaker 2: there with bots and trolls and seeming we have taken

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Speaker 2: over the interwebs. Matter of fact, right now, Kentucky lawmakers

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Speaker 2: are working on age verification legislation to protect kids. You

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Speaker 2: saw the big tech companies and the social media people

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Speaker 2: like Mark Zuckerberg and others who have been called in

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Speaker 2: front of Congress, and that's for kids right now. Adults

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Speaker 2: field as well. Here's a case in point so I

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Speaker 2: saw this real post by Tricia Mackie from Fox nineteen

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Speaker 2: and did a very unusual thing this week. She clapped

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Speaker 2: back at the trolls in some of the comments I made.

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Speaker 2: It was just like, you're shaking your head going that

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Speaker 2: this can't be real people, There's got to be bots.

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Speaker 2: It's insane. Tricia Mackie, welcome, How are you gay?

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Speaker 3: Thanks good, I'm doing good.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing good. Thanks for getting up early. Is this

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Speaker 2: early for you?

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Speaker 3: This is early when you go to sleep at three?

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Speaker 3: This is early? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Well thanks for being a tripper and

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Speaker 2: coming on. I appreciate it. You bad so normally journalists,

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Speaker 2: I mean, traditionally, you guys don't go at viewers. You're

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Speaker 2: taught to simply shrug it off. Is that changing or

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Speaker 2: did you just hit a breaking pointer?

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Speaker 3: You know, I've always kind of been like a little

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Speaker 3: not like I'm rude. It's just I don't you have

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Speaker 3: to get to that point where you don't really care

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Speaker 3: when somebody continues to try to like put you down.

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Speaker 3: And I think all of us need to get like that.

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Speaker 3: If we listen to all of the negativity every single day,

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Speaker 3: we would never get.

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Speaker 4: Out of bed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's just so much. And I am

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Speaker 3: one of those people that I don't want to validate

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Speaker 3: I think that's honestly the worst thing you can do.

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Speaker 3: You can get in the shouting mass and that could

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Speaker 3: go on forever. Right, you know you're ugly, No, you're ugly,

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Speaker 3: or no, what your mom's ugly?

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Speaker 1: Well, your dad?

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Speaker 3: You know that whole thing. I mean, you know that

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Speaker 3: kind of thing. But why do it. You're just validating them,

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Speaker 3: You're giving them more power over you. But at some

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Speaker 3: point you just kind of got to tell everybody, Look,

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna change. You can say whatever you want

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Speaker 3: to say about me. You cannot like me. You can

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Speaker 3: think I'm old, you can think I'm ugly, you cannot

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Speaker 3: like my clothes, you cannot like my hair. Because we

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Speaker 3: hear it all.

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Speaker 5: We hear it all.

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Speaker 3: I mean, all we do is really read the news,

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Speaker 3: and everybody gives us some kind of a comment about

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Speaker 3: every single aspect of who they are. It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm in.

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Speaker 2: talking and I can't answer for the males. But I

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Speaker 2: talk to other female journalists or female anchors in town,

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Speaker 2: and they all have the same story you do. You're

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Speaker 2: just the one who addressed it right. Like, let me

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Speaker 2: recall again, dress, your age, you're too old to be

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Speaker 2: wearing a leather you look so unprofessional, and a whole

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Speaker 2: bunch of comments that I can't mention on the radio

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Speaker 2: right now about scrotums and things. It's crazy and all.

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Speaker 2: But all the other anchors in town the same thing.

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Speaker 2: You're just like the first one to say you clap

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Speaker 3: That's the other thing, Like I don't care. I've heard everything,

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Speaker 3: And the thing is, here's the other thing.

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Speaker 3: I get a lot of compliments. I get a lot

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Speaker 3: there are haters. Hairs are just loud and every now

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Speaker 3: and then you just got to like be right back

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Speaker 3: at I'm like, look, you don't affect that.

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Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, do you think it's getting worse since

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Speaker 2: COVID in particular.

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Speaker 3: I think it's gotten worse is everybody gets on social

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Speaker 3: So what do they say to you? Do they say anything?

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Speaker 2: it's like, do you want to immerse yourself in that too?

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Speaker 2: I know people who are on it twenty four to

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's how you should live your life.

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Speaker 3: I like getting on there. I like seeing what's going on.

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Speaker 3: I love checking in to see how people are doing.

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Speaker 3: I love the positive stuff, I really do. I think

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you that. You know, I really change from

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Speaker 3: there because people are a lot less likely to badmouth

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Speaker 2: All the work you do to try and save these dugs,

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Speaker 3: Holes, just like people.

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Speaker 2: You're trying. I'm like, come on, this dog clearly is

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Speaker 3: Hey man, it's just like a kid. You gotta like

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Speaker 2: Some dogs are just too ugly to be exactly.

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Speaker 3: We only talk about the cute ones. That's like my

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Speaker 3: that's my thing. You bring on an ugly dog, it's.

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Speaker 2: An ugly dog. It sounds like you're kind of dipping

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Speaker 2: your TUTORTIONI mack into the into the Savannah Guthrie thing,

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Speaker 2: like you saw Hanna Savannah and she may never return

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Speaker 3: Now, what's funny because I stopped posting about my kids

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Speaker 3: absolutely hundred percent, because you just don't like start like

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Speaker 3: And you know, and I can imagine I felt guilty

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Speaker 3: I'm not putting my kids out there. They can put

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Speaker 3: themselves out there. I'll stick to other things, And there's

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Speaker 3: about that, right, wouldn't you?

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Speaker 1: I would? Would you?

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Speaker 3: How many years have you been on TV or on

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Speaker 2: Well most of my life since I was eighteen years old.

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Speaker 3: You name it?

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Speaker 3: I mean everything. I mean everything. I mean my hair

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Speaker 3: This as long as coming him doesn't call me.

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Speaker 2: Today, well that creep. I think Willie's he's had vacation,

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, the thing is when people don't know about this.

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Speaker 2: you know, to to check out. Absolutely deserves it. Tricia Mackie,

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Speaker 2: social media is bad for kids and people, it's far

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Speaker 2: But I think you're the only one who's actually said,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Scott, you think about like everybody that does

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Speaker 2: Well, look at these poor people. That the guy who

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Speaker 2: he didn't do anything.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, nuts, man.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy, It is crazy, all right, Tricia mackew Fox nineteen.

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Speaker 2: Later on today, I appreciate you get up early in

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Speaker 2: chatting with me, and good for you. Good you know what,

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Speaker 2: good for you you show him? Uch Man, good job,

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Speaker 2: good job.

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Speaker 3: I'm I might clap back at you today later.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, she now I gave her too much ammunition

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Speaker 2: here or is the thing? But you know what I

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Speaker 2: would I wouldn't care there you go, it rolls up

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Speaker 2: there like whatever. It's like, okay, fine, hey, all the

444
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Speaker 2: best friends.

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Speaker 3: I think we all felt like that it'd be a

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Speaker 3: better place.

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Speaker 2: All right, thanks for joining the show. I appreciate you,

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Speaker 2: all right, take care they go Tricia Mackie on the

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Speaker 2: show on Fox nineteen and yeah, it's not just kids,

450
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Speaker 2: and we're trying to create these laws like in Kentucky

451
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Speaker 2: age verification. That's all common sense stuff. But adults are

452
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Speaker 2: I think, can be far worse than kids sometimes for real.

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Speaker 2: Scott's Sloan Show will talk about the state of the

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Speaker 2: Union and what happened last night that I think some

455
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Speaker 2: people are getting wrong because we live in a state

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Speaker 2: where everything is polarized. Rather that's a state of mind

457
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Speaker 2: these days. We'll talk about that coming up next afternoons

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Speaker 2: on seven hundred WW this is scott'slone show, seven hundred

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Speaker 2: w alwit just that's kind of I think it was

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Speaker 2: a good conversation Tricia Mackie. Something that's just went viral

461
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Speaker 2: here in Cincinnati, and I was looking at her numbers

462
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Speaker 2: and man, it just really took off, and you know,

463
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Speaker 2: just the social media. The problem we all have with

464
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Speaker 2: social media. It's great is you can stay connected with

465
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Speaker 2: folks and learn stuff and see new ideas or have

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Speaker 2: your beliefs validated wherever it might be. We know the

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Speaker 2: algorithm does that. But you know the idea that there

468
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Speaker 2: are people out there, and I don't know how many

469
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Speaker 2: these are bots or trolled, but yeah, people trolling other

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Speaker 2: folks like I just I you just picture something us

471
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Speaker 2: sitting there in their pajamas, who's not really happy with

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Speaker 2: their life, just taking shots of folks because you can

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Speaker 2: get away with it and you don't know who they are.

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Speaker 2: So I'm good for her for taking a stand for sure. Anyway,

475
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Speaker 2: other stuff going on. I know, if you know this,

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Speaker 2: there's a State of the Union address last night, and

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Speaker 2: I believe the President is just wrapping up wrapping up

478
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Speaker 2: with Scott Its minutes ago. That was long. I couldn't

479
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Speaker 2: make it through the whole thing. I know about you.

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Speaker 2: I went back and watched like the last twenty thirty

481
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Speaker 2: minutes of it this morning, just because I know it's

482
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Speaker 2: going to wind up talking about it too. But I

483
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Speaker 2: think the highlight of the whole thing was an actual

484
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Speaker 2: moment of unity, which is really really rare that the

485
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Speaker 2: Democrats stood up and applauded. So, you know, something weird

486
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Speaker 2: was going on. Where twenty twenty five US men's hockey

487
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Speaker 2: team members were at the State of the Union last night.

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Speaker 2: I like it was at the beginning of it. I

489
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Speaker 2: thought that was great. There are five players who missed it,

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Speaker 2: and of course the question as well, they're making a

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Speaker 2: political statement. No, they simply chose to get back to practice.

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Speaker 2: The NHL season resumes today as a matter of fact,

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Speaker 2: and so there's very little time. Each member of the

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Speaker 2: US men's hockey team essentially has to get approval from

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Speaker 2: their home club to to have gone to the State

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Speaker 2: of the Union and say, hey, you know, we need

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Speaker 2: you back here. We're in a Stanley Cup chase. We've

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Speaker 2: got twenty five games left roughly, and we're going to

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Speaker 2: make a push. And so the five players that did

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Speaker 2: are in that fight right now, and including you know,

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Speaker 2: I thought it was cool that Connor Hellibuk was there

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Speaker 2: from Winnipeg, so that's a bit of a trip for him.

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Speaker 2: But you know, taking that victory lap and how many

504
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Speaker 2: more times you're gonna be able to or how is

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Speaker 2: it going to ever happen again in your life where

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Speaker 2: you get to do what they did last night. I

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Speaker 2: thought that was really cool. I know that like everything

508
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Speaker 2: in politics and especially in life today, everything is polarizing.

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Speaker 2: You're on either one side or the other. And some

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Speaker 2: of the comments about the US men's hockey team being

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Speaker 2: there last night of the State and the State of

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Speaker 2: the Union that somehow they they you know, the feel

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Speaker 2: on this the take and it's not just one person,

514
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Speaker 2: it's a lot of people feel like, well, you know,

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Speaker 2: they align themselves with Trump and you know, they laughed

516
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Speaker 2: as this misogenic joke and they're partying with Kesh Patel

517
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Speaker 2: and the State of the Union and they turned their

518
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Speaker 2: gold medal triumph into partisan politics and today's climate, you know,

519
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Speaker 2: you are now have a hand in the Trump regime

520
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Speaker 2: and all this. You've got to read the room and

521
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Speaker 2: you should be above this. Sole thing is shut the

522
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Speaker 2: hell up, you know, and he's be able to do this,

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Speaker 2: in my opinion, are doing exactly what they're criticizing the

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Speaker 2: idea that the team, the US hockey team politicized the moment.

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Speaker 2: But anyone who says this, you're politicizing the moment the

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Speaker 2: team won a gold medal. It's full stop. Yeah, taking

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Speaker 2: a call from a president in a locker room is

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Speaker 2: not a political association or political act. I mean, since

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Speaker 2: teams have been professional champions are not even professional college

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Speaker 2: team championship teams have visited the White House, they if

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Speaker 2: accepted congratulations from presidents across party lines for decades. I

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Speaker 2: don't know why are we because they won the gold

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Speaker 2: medal holding them to wait some sort of weird standard

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Speaker 2: out because they're so polarized. That's not their fault. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you're born into the times, right, you don't get to

536
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Speaker 2: choose what eras you live in. And they won a

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Speaker 2: gold medal and had every right and should have gone there.

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Speaker 2: You know, the the the political calculator, like somehow the

539
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Speaker 2: athletes are doing the political calculus on this is insane.

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Speaker 2: You've got to be more savvy. You've got to be

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Speaker 2: savvy about your the opstacle. That why you're asking them

542
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Speaker 2: to be political when clearly they're not a sign and

543
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Speaker 2: you're you know, you're assigning this responsibility to the wrong party.

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Speaker 2: It's not in the US hockey team. And the fact

545
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Speaker 2: of the matter is, if we can't be happy for

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Speaker 2: a few days about winning two gold medals in hockey

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Speaker 2: without becoming some sort of culture war flash point. I

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Speaker 2: I you know, now we're going to manage how we

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Speaker 2: celebrate winning a gold medal. I mean, and I don't

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Speaker 2: think did we really lose unity over this because I

551
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Speaker 2: didn't feel that last night. I think maybe, deep down inside,

552
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Speaker 2: what you're really mad about is the fact that Trump

553
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Speaker 2: gets the benefit from that association. And that may be

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Speaker 2: a legitimate political concern, but that's what politicians do. They

555
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Speaker 2: exploit on the hypoinds, and Trump did a masterful job

556
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Speaker 2: of that. I think last night. Regards to what you

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Speaker 2: think over all of the speech, which you'll get into

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Speaker 2: a little bit later on, I don't think that should

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Speaker 2: at all be going through the heads of these athletes, like, well,

560
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Speaker 2: what about the political association that they're living in the moment.

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Speaker 2: They're probably still drunk, quite honestly, with the gold medal.

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Speaker 2: They got on a plane, they spent all night partying

563
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Speaker 2: in Miami and then were flown up in military aircraft

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Speaker 2: to Washington for the State of the Union. So these

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Speaker 2: guys are probably they're still hammered. I know hockey players

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Speaker 2: pretty well. I bet a lot of the guys are

567
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Speaker 2: still they're still up, they're still hammered, having a great time.

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Speaker 2: And I know the US women's team couldn't make it.

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Speaker 2: And everyone said, oh, they're making a political statement. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: well no, they said, listen, we have academic obligations. We

571
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Speaker 2: also have professor wants too, because we play hockey, and

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Speaker 2: you know, we ramp right back up. So and I'm

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Speaker 2: sure there are members of each team and maybe one

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Speaker 2: of the you know, a few of the five or

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Speaker 2: one of the five that the men didn't show up,

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Speaker 2: or the women that didn't want to do that because

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Speaker 2: they're not a fan. But I'll tell you what, I

578
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Speaker 2: don't care who the president was. It was Trump, it

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Speaker 2: was Biden, it was Obama, it was Clinton, it was Bush,

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Speaker 2: it was Ray. If if I had an opportunity and

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Speaker 2: I were invited to the State of the Union, regardless

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Speaker 2: of who is the president, I would go in a second,

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Speaker 2: wouldn't you. I sure as hell would. And it's not

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Speaker 2: about the office holder. It's about the office. It's about

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Speaker 2: the It's about this moment in time. I mean, you

586
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Speaker 2: get a chance to go to the invited and recognize

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Speaker 2: that the State of the Union address. I don't care

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Speaker 2: who the president is. I would do that one hundred

589
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Speaker 2: times out of one hundred for that experience. And I

590
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Speaker 2: think if he said no, well I would only do it.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't do that for that. That says more about

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Speaker 2: you than the whole Thing's that's pretty cool. It would

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Speaker 2: be pretty cool to go to a State of the year, right,

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Speaker 2: That would definitely check a lot of boxes. Let alone

595
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Speaker 2: be recognized and Trump and his theatrics, which was I

596
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 2: mean a lot of this stuff's theatrical, you know, recognizing

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Speaker 2: individual success stories and aligning himself with that and recognizing

598
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Speaker 2: people throughout the state of the Union. I think in

599
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Speaker 2: the future it used to just be, oh, we've got

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Speaker 2: this person here, this person, but you know, he's awarding

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Speaker 2: medals and purple hearts and all these wonderful accolades, and

602
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Speaker 2: it's kind of like there's a little theater and then

603
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Speaker 2: Trump's really really good at that. But overall, and we'll

604
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Speaker 2: get into this a little bit more later in the show.

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Speaker 2: This might actually at the ten o six Kevin Burton's upholster.

606
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Speaker 2: And the question though, is did Trump sell his message

607
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Speaker 2: last night? Now? Personally? You know, he covered a lot

608
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Speaker 2: of ground covered a lot of things, and is all

609
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Speaker 2: the presidents before him have to took some liberties with

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Speaker 2: the truth, with the facts. All presidents do that to

611
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Speaker 2: some degree, and that's part of the state of the union.

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Speaker 2: It's more like an infomercial for the past year in

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Speaker 2: the year head an in for martial that it is.

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Speaker 2: But I thought in this time now and if you may,

615
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Speaker 2: if you don't believe the poll numbers, then that doesn't

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Speaker 2: apply to you. But if you look at the polling,

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Speaker 2: go it's got some I've got a lot of problems here.

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Speaker 2: I kind of look at it going and this is

619
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Speaker 2: just part of who he is. I think we've talked

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Speaker 2: about that lack of empathy and things. You know, he's

621
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Speaker 2: trying really really hard to just convince the American people

622
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Speaker 2: that this is the greatest thing ever, that we are winning,

623
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Speaker 2: winning all the time. And you know, the reality is

624
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 2: you see it for yourself. It's in your own reality.

625
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 2: If you go to a store and go, wow, everything's

626
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 2: really expensive, you know again, you're you're it's your pocketbook,

627
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 2: it's your personal ecosystem of your economy, and that that

628
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 2: little world we each individually have as opposed to the

629
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Speaker 2: economy a whole and Wall Street I don't care about that.

630
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Speaker 2: How do you feel You got money in your bank account,

631
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Speaker 2: you got money to spend? Are you cutting corners? Are

632
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 2: you doing Are you better off today than you were

633
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Speaker 2: a year or two or four years ago. That's always

634
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 2: been the age old question when it comes to the

635
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 2: state of union in politics, how do you feel about

636
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 2: the economy? That's a number one issue for America's number

637
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 2: one issue economy. Now, if we're under attack of a war,

638
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 2: different story. But for most of my life, almost every

639
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,360
Speaker 2: single state of the unit, it's been about the economy

640
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 2: and our own personal finances. And I think the thing is,

641
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 2: and he wouldn't do this, but you know, if you

642
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 2: would listen, it's like, Okay, all these great things you

643
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 2: did that don't get the attention they should because they're

644
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 2: overshadowed by well, you may say, you know, the media

645
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 2: buyas and things, but also I mean Trump throws a

646
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 2: lot out there, and when he does and says us

647
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 2: audacious things, it tends to overshadow the accomplishments. In that regard,

648
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Speaker 2: I think you can agree a lot of times he

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Speaker 2: could be his own worst enemy because the noise overshadows

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Speaker 2: the accomplishments. And so last night I was like, you know,

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Speaker 2: tell me, hey, listen, we know it sucks right now,

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Speaker 2: but we're starting to see the light. We're starting to

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Speaker 2: make these changes, and here's what's going to happen on

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Speaker 2: the next year's and you know, give me here's some

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Speaker 2: mile posts to look at in the upcoming year. This

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Speaker 2: is our plan. This is what we're doing. And it's hard.

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Speaker 2: Right now, we're hopefully we're getting out of the We're

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Speaker 2: getting out of that fog. We're starting to see the

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Speaker 2: light at the end of the tunnel. I think I

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Speaker 2: would rather hear that than we're winning. Everything is great.

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Speaker 2: It's the greatest economy ever. This is the greatest thing.

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Speaker 2: It's great. It's great. It's great. For a lot of Americans,

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Speaker 2: it's not. And I also think too, the people that

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Speaker 2: I know that are like absolutely one hundred percent down

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Speaker 2: with it have enough money to not notice the price

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Speaker 2: of I don't know, beef is up a couple bucks

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Speaker 2: right or I had someone on yesterday the cost of

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Speaker 2: a new car for the first time in history, the

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Speaker 2: awful lot price for average car price average now it's

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Speaker 2: average is over fifty thousand dollars. I mean, a few

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Speaker 2: years ago, like, wow, the average price was it like

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Speaker 2: thirty grand and now it's fifty. If you have money,

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Speaker 2: if you have means, you don't feel it as much

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Speaker 2: obviously someone who doesn't, and so you tend to be

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Speaker 2: a little insulated from them. That's the truth. And of

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Speaker 2: course if you're way down to the lower end too,

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Speaker 2: it's like I'll never get out of this hole. I

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Speaker 2: feel that especially. That's true for younger people as well.

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Speaker 2: But I think last night I've preferred the president to

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Speaker 2: have that, to try to have that take. It's like, tell, okay,

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Speaker 2: just admit, hey, listen there. I know you're still feeling

682
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Speaker 2: the pain, but that's a lagging indicator. Okay, here's the

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Speaker 2: progress we're seeing with tariffs or whatever. Sell me on

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Speaker 2: the next six, nine or twelve week months ahead, and

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Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, I see, okay, it's starting to turn, right,

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Speaker 2: Is it starting to turn? Rather than just no, it's

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Speaker 2: the greatest thing ever, because I don't think people you know,

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Speaker 2: some people do, but there are a lot of people

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Speaker 2: don't believe that. I don't think that helps the cause.

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Speaker 2: But that's my take. I got pollsters come out, we'll

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Speaker 2: talk Iran that was the big thing that was kind

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Speaker 2: of buried late and talking to some experts about Iran

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Speaker 2: as a matter of fact, and we'll have an eleven

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Speaker 2: oh six Mark and Silaco for the University of Dayton,

695
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Speaker 2: who's a Middle Eastern terrorism and Middle East expert. As

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Speaker 2: we ramp up forces in the Middle East in the

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Speaker 2: next twenty four to forty eight seventy two hours, we'll

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Speaker 2: have a better picture. Trump said last night, we preferred diplomacy,

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Speaker 2: but not afraid to bring the stick, and we saw

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Speaker 2: what happened in Venezuela. Will the President launch and authorize

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Speaker 2: attacks on Iran? And what the hell does that mean exactly?

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Speaker 2: Because you know, the concern over them having intercontinental ballistic

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Speaker 2: missiles or striking our assets in the Middle East is

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Speaker 2: very real, But I'm more worried about a terror attack

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Speaker 2: because that's a much lower barred across. It's easier to

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Speaker 2: commit an active terror than it is to attack assets

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Speaker 2: in the Middle East or launch a missile for that matter,

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Speaker 2: which they probably don't have. So that's coming up a

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Speaker 2: little bit later on as well on seven hundred w

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Speaker 2: do But hey, real quick, let me get to a

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Speaker 2: bill on the show here. Want to check on the

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Speaker 2: state of union real quick. Bill, it's up.

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Speaker 5: Ah, thank you sir for taking my call.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for calling.

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Speaker 5: And the thing I'm a people watch. I love watching

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Speaker 5: that audience, their response and everything that Trump has.

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Speaker 6: Put up positive.

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Speaker 5: The Democrats they're sitting there on their hands like they

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Speaker 5: want to go back to where it was miserable. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I was astound to watch this. Them'm sitting there they

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Speaker 5: want to go back when we're all happy and wanting

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Speaker 5: to go forward. Can you please can you help me out?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 5: Bill?

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Speaker 4: Bill?

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Speaker 2: Is this the first Is this the first date of

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Speaker 2: the Union you've watched? Because all the ones I watch

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Speaker 2: usually that's the case. If there's a if Biden's in office,

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Speaker 2: the Republicans sit on their hands.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 2: If it's a Republican in charge. The Democrats that are

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Speaker 2: that that's the game, because you know, just the act

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Speaker 2: of them applauding along is like, well, wait a minute,

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Speaker 2: that we're acknowledging they're doing a good job, and that

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Speaker 2: could be you know, that threatens their existence when it's Democrats,

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Speaker 2: and that's you know, that's part of what I did.

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Speaker 2: I did notice. I will say that Elizabeth Warren did

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Speaker 2: applaud when they were talking about some of the you know,

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Speaker 2: some of the policy issues in favor of which is

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Speaker 2: kind of refreshing. But behind it, you know, I saw

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Speaker 2: a lot of people and sitting on their hands when

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Speaker 2: the when the Olympic team was out there, For God's sake,

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Speaker 2: how could he not applaud for the American athletes? For

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Speaker 2: God's sake, that's terrible.

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Speaker 5: I want to say one one thing too, and what

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Speaker 5: you just said that with who's ever and all the

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Speaker 5: other one's going to sit on their hand? Okay, I

748
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Speaker 5: give you that. That's that's but when it comes to

749
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 5: a time when you have to put your things aside

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Speaker 5: and do what's right for the agenda of the future

751
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Speaker 5: of America, there's a difference. There's things going so.

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Speaker 1: Well that they won't even.

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Speaker 5: Announce what look Trump is doing well. They won't even

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Speaker 5: get off their spine and say, yeah, he's doing some

755
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Speaker 5: good things. Where were we We had the chance to

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Speaker 5: do all this and we did nothing.

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Speaker 2: Well, the border wud be the big one there right.

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Speaker 5: Yes, exactly exactly.

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Speaker 7: And the drugs and the drugs and the drugs.

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Speaker 5: You know, when they had their they had their perfect

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Speaker 5: upportunity to turn it all around Trump saying he give

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Speaker 5: me the chance, I will do it.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 5: Now they're still doing the same thing. They want to

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Speaker 5: go back to all these delagrants coming back in here, Democrats.

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Speaker 5: You want to come back to everybody doing drugs or

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Speaker 5: sitting all y'all want to go back to all that

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Speaker 5: negative when we're looking at the future.

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Speaker 2: Well, I would say this, I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty

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Speaker 2: sure that people are still doing drugs. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: if you know. The fentanyl crossing the border is one thing,

772
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Speaker 2: but again there's if there's so much fentanyl cross a

773
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Speaker 2: crossing the border, there's enough for well with, but there's

774
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Speaker 2: enough to kill everybody at this point. So I don't

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's it's our taste for drugs that

776
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Speaker 2: fuels that, right. I mean, you can crack down a

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Speaker 2: fentanyl like, but again, there's consumer demand for that here

778
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Speaker 2: in the United States. I don't know how you address

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Speaker 2: that without poisoning the whole country. But you know, look

780
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Speaker 2: at the cartel wars. The whole reason the cartels exist

781
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Speaker 2: because of us.

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Speaker 5: It's very simple, it's very simple. Cracked down, no gray area,

783
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Speaker 5: take these people out, take them out, no matter what

784
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Speaker 5: it takes. Take them out have with all this political

785
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Speaker 5: correctness stuff. Always should treat them like no, let's be

786
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Speaker 5: as brought evil, not evil, the goodness over what these

787
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Speaker 5: people are doing to our country. And the Democrats sitting

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Speaker 5: there want to go back to a world of that world.

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Speaker 5: They're even the Democrats, sir. Even I heard on the thing,

790
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Speaker 5: Democrats would say, okay, enough enough, even the Democrats is

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Speaker 5: turning on Democrats.

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Speaker 6: That's a good thing for us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I would say I would say this though

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Speaker 2: that you know, there's divisits in the Republican party obviously,

795
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Speaker 2: but I think even more so with the Democrats. But

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Speaker 2: they give the drug argument, Yeah, can we you know,

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Speaker 2: open borders is a problem. Are you're going to have

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Speaker 2: you know, the cartels are still getting stuff in the

799
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Speaker 2: country because yeah, as a day, and Democrats maybe want

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Speaker 2: to look the other way. Republicans are tougher on crime,

801
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Speaker 2: for sure, then Democrats are in that regard. Not everybody's

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Speaker 2: a victim. But I'll say it's it's our thirst for drugs.

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Speaker 2: It drives this whole thing. And you can talk about

804
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Speaker 2: your Democrats and Republicans, but at the end of the day,

805
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 2: it's your neighbor. It's your cowork or someone going. You know,

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00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 2: they like using drugs. And it's not just you know,

807
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 2: just people of who are poor or on the street.

808
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 2: I mean, it's in the penthouses as well as the slums.

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Speaker 2: And it's it's our demand for drugs and illegal drugs

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Speaker 2: that are driving this thing. And it always has been,

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Speaker 2: always will and that's why you know, we can attack

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Speaker 2: them below, but they're going to replace by another car.

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Speaker 2: Teil member. I mean, you look at the map of Mexico.

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Speaker 2: It's it's not troubling. It's sickening how much the cart

815
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Speaker 2: controls that country, But most of it has to do

816
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Speaker 2: with us. If the demand goes away, there's no need

817
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Speaker 2: for them. How do you fix that problem? Scott's Loan

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Speaker 2: Home of the Red seven hundred WWT Cincinnati, Scott's Slumshell.

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Speaker 2: This is seven hundred w go out every course. The

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Speaker 2: big story State of Union last night. Trump covered a

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Speaker 2: lot in his record one hundred and eight minute State

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Speaker 2: of the Union address last night. We had gold medalists,

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Speaker 2: we had military heroes, we had these emotional moments to

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Speaker 2: argue his first year back in the White House has

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Speaker 2: been a triumph. So two thirds of people who watched

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Speaker 2: that last night. All are in part it resonated with them,

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Speaker 2: seemed to be acted positively about a little more than

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Speaker 2: the third said it was fantastic. At the same time,

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Speaker 2: this had odds with other polls prior to the State

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00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 2: of the Union that show him underwater, like six and

831
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Speaker 2: ten voters disapprove of how the President is handling things.

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Speaker 2: So it's not about them, it's about you. How much

833
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Speaker 2: of the State of the Union messaging are you buying?

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Speaker 2: It's a simple question. Joining the show this morning to

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Speaker 2: discuss and how this hit is our buddy Kevin Burton,

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Speaker 2: Kevin of course with Crosstown Consulting, Political Strategus and pollster.

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Speaker 1: Kevin, welcome, thanks for having me, Scott.

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Speaker 2: All right, so we all know, so if you've seen

839
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Speaker 2: a State of the Union, you've seen one. You've seen

840
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Speaker 2: them all usually and it's a lot of theater, it's

841
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Speaker 2: a lot of pomp and circumstance. It's also a lot

842
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 2: of infomercial But this one, because of that, you know,

843
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 2: two thirds of people said, yeah, it was a pretty

844
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 2: good message, it was awesome, and then you look at

845
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Speaker 2: the polling numbers and if you believe these things, but

846
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Speaker 2: that's the only yardstick we have to measure this at

847
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 2: this point other than when we go to the polls

848
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Speaker 2: is six and ten Americans think well, we're heading the

849
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 2: wrong direction. He's not doing a good job. So I

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Speaker 2: look at this, The question was, in your opinion as

851
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Speaker 2: a polster and someone who's at political analyst, did he

852
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Speaker 2: hit on the points he needed to hit on last night?

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Speaker 9: So what he did really well was he wanted to

854
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Speaker 9: just keep making sure And the one thing that Trump

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Speaker 9: is so good at and DEM's have never been able

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Speaker 9: to figure this out.

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Speaker 1: Is he the master of kind of I don't.

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Speaker 9: Want to say manipulation, but just controlling the narrative. So

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Speaker 9: he did a really good job in that. But at

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Speaker 9: the end of the day, you know, it's a dog

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Speaker 9: and pony show. It is, say the Union, I don't

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00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,439
Speaker 9: care who it is, yep. So I think it's gonna

863
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 9: be more temporary that you know, people are gonna say,

864
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 9: oh yeah, this looks good. Affordability we heard that a

865
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 9: lot last night. Affordability is going to continuing to be

866
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 9: the number one issue. The one thing that Trump's doing

867
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 9: is very similar to what Biden did is keep reiterating

868
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 9: the stock market in four oh one case, but there's

869
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 9: a lot of Americans who don't have that. So affordability

870
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 9: is going to be the number one issue from now

871
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 9: till November.

872
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 2: But he kind of dismissed that during the speech. He

873
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: touched on it briefly about that. You know, he doesn't

874
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,439
Speaker 2: believe it's true. It's a it's a it's a fabricated word,

875
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 2: that affordability. No one's talking about affordability. Affordability. The way

876
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 2: I kind of frame that is, it depends where you are.

877
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,720
Speaker 2: If you're someone who has means, if you have money

878
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 2: because of your hard work, your effort, or for whatever reason.

879
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 2: You know, the price of beef going up, for example,

880
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 2: that's thing we all identify with, like it doesn't affect

881
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 2: you as much as it could be two dollars a

882
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 2: pound and could be ten dollars upon okay, so what

883
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 2: But of course then there's a working folk too, where

884
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,439
Speaker 2: you know, they're they're pinching pennies, cutting coupons and trying

885
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 2: to save and maybe forgoing that as well. Just it

886
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 2: depends on who's receiving the message exactly. It's just like

887
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 2: gas prices.

888
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 9: For some people, it's like okay, so instead of you know,

889
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 9: going out to dinner tonight, you know, Jeff.

890
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: Ruby's you go to outback.

891
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,720
Speaker 9: But remember the folks who propelled him to this victory

892
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,240
Speaker 9: were people who it was all about the economy, especially

893
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 9: in those rough belt states. So you're seeing that their

894
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 9: poll numbers are showing that there is a concern of

895
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 9: economic disapproval up until last night. So now you got

896
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 9: to see do they carry this momentum for the next

897
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 9: you know, six months or was this a flash in

898
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 9: the pan. Like I said, Trump, the one thing Trump

899
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 9: does better than probably any politician ever is controlling the narrative.

900
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 9: It was a performance. It was the ultimate reality show

901
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 9: last night, and he just and the problem is Trump

902
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 9: is just Trump. There's no one else besides him.

903
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: Who can do that.

904
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 2: Correct.

905
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: So, you know, the state of the Union is a

906
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 1: long ways away, so it was gonna be interesting to see.

907
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: You know.

908
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 9: I think one of the high moments, if we want

909
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 9: to talk about that, was when he talked about the

910
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 9: insider trading, and even Democrats clapped, and it was a

911
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 9: good clap back about Nancy Pelosi. I think we can

912
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 9: all agree that we don't want our congress people insider trading.

913
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had some good shots, and you expect. I mean,

914
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 2: most State of the unions are kind of boring by design.

915
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 2: It's more about the pomp than what's actually happening. More

916
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 2: you know, more fluffing. But you know, you're kind of

917
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 2: waiting for Trump zingers to come out, and he came

918
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 2: out with a few good ones. I thought the Nancy

919
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 2: Pelosi thing was fantastic myself, but you know, it's an

920
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 2: economy versus kitchen table isshes we talked about, and I think,

921
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 2: you know, you look at the poll numbers to suggest

922
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 2: that he's underwater, but two thirds of people watch this

923
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 2: and thirty six that people watch it for that matter,

924
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 2: thought it was the greatest speech ever. Two thirds said, yeah,

925
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 2: it was. It was pretty positive. Does that actually translate though,

926
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 2: to turning his numbers around in the long.

927
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 9: Term, Well, but sir, the thirty six percent is his

928
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 9: approval rating is roughly, you know, give or take about

929
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 9: thirty eight forty percent.

930
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 1: So that's right in line.

931
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:20,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

932
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 9: The one thing that Trump said that he knew better

933
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 9: than anyone. I guess it's twelve years ago, is he

934
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 9: knew his supporters when he said I could shoot someone

935
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 9: on Fifth Avenue, and that was like he knows his

936
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 9: base one hundred percent. The other forty percent are Democrats.

937
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 9: No matter what he does, it's they're not going to

938
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 9: support him. So at the end of the day, it's

939
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 9: all about those independence foods on the middle and that's

940
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 9: and you know, it's that ten to fifteen percent in

941
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 9: every election that sways the pendulum, you know, and that's

942
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 9: who both sides are going to be targeting. You know,

943
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 9: there was one interesting thing that I saw about the

944
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 9: economy is that one third blames Trump, one third lanes didn't,

945
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 9: and one third doesn't trust either.

946
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: I think that's a pretty good representation.

947
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 2: Of American right. That's about right. It's so just so fractious,

948
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 2: and it's evenly divided, and that's why that's why it

949
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 2: feels the way it does today. I think too presents

950
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 2: often do this. You know, somebody will go in fact

951
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 2: check and I'll look at some of the fact checks, and

952
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 2: there are multiple claims in the speech that you know,

953
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 2: gas prices, job numbers, drug numbers, tariffs, the economy of

954
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 2: the tariffs, and in your experience of the fact checks,

955
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 2: move numbers or uh, does it resonate with with people

956
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 2: that that that's factually an accurate.

957
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 9: No, I mean every every president in our lifetime has

958
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 9: promised the moon, you know, or going to Mahers in

959
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 9: the State of the Union. In reality, it's a you know,

960
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 9: it's a flash in the pan and then the.

961
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: Numbers come back down.

962
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I mean people kind of get you know,

963
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 9: the State of the Union is what you want to happen.

964
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 2: But there's also the of breadlock and watching them and

965
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 2: with the fact midterms are fast approaching, and we know

966
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 2: how midterms are for the incumbent. It's not good. And

967
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 2: you know another thing that Trump's does better than anybody

968
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,280
Speaker 2: else is the stagecraft. Right, So yeah, the hockey team,

969
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 2: you had the Venezuelan political prisoner reunion, handing out medals

970
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 2: of honor, right, metal monor guys, and we're giving we're

971
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 2: decorating soldiers and first responders. And he's always been a

972
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 2: master of the made for TV moment. Does that translate?

973
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 2: How much of that translates to compensate for those pulling numbers?

974
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 2: And did it land with audiences outside the chamber? I

975
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:36,399
Speaker 2: think it did.

976
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 9: I mean that's why he's president. You know, it literally

977
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 9: looked like a Netflix made for documentary, like a you know,

978
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 9: a show about as say, of a union. The one

979
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 9: thing that Trump understands better than anyone is marketing. He

980
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 9: gets how to craft the message and craft the appearance

981
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 9: because I mean, he was on TV for thirty years.

982
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 9: In reality he was the first real reality TV star

983
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 9: America had, and so he understands optics better than anyone. Now,

984
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 9: the question is, it's a long ways away the election,

985
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 9: and you're not going to have another really chance like

986
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 9: this to get as many viewers on so that they have,

987
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 9: you know, seven eight months to kind of craft their message,

988
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 9: which you know they're going with the economies high the

989
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 9: four oh one ks are good. But it all goes

990
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 9: back to it's kind of like when you're doing a

991
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 9: primary vote. If people's lives are good, generally speaking, they

992
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 9: don't turn out for primaries. It's the people who are

993
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 9: the most effective and who are passionate who will get

994
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 9: out and vote. So like, if you work at fidelity

995
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 9: in life's good and I don't, if you know you're

996
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 9: middle of the road on either side, you're probably not

997
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 9: going to vote in the primary. But if you know

998
00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 9: you're worried about milk prices, you're going to get out

999
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 9: and vote because it's really affecting you.

1000
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, or tax implications like that they're going to crack

1001
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 2: a Democrat's going to destroy them with tech, You're going

1002
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 2: to get out of the vote. It's going to motivate you.

1003
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 2: In that context though, Kevin, midterm framing. This is from

1004
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 2: the midterm elections coming up. As I mentioned in your

1005
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 2: read of last night, was the primary target audience swing

1006
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 2: voters who might be persuadable. Was it the Republican base

1007
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 2: and he's energizing or Democrats that Trump's he wants to

1008
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 2: put on the defensive because I don't think you can

1009
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 2: do all of that. You can do maybe two of them,

1010
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 2: but probably one of those, which one. I think it's

1011
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 2: all about his base. You know, we saw last November.

1012
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 2: When he is not on the ballot, it's not the same.

1013
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 9: And Trump in his base, he can connect to that

1014
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 9: like no one else can. You know, for Republicans, it's

1015
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 9: simply just turning out their voters, because if they turre

1016
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 9: out their voters at the bare minimum, you know, it's probably.

1017
00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: Very close to what it is right now.

1018
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 9: You know, at three three feet difference in the House

1019
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 9: on either side, and then maybe a one or two

1020
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 9: different seats in the Senate if they can really turn

1021
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 9: out their base.

1022
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 2: Gotcha. He is Kevin Burton, Crosstown Consulting in Kentucky, Northern

1023
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 2: Kentucky political strategy and pollster breaking down the state of

1024
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 2: the Union last night and what all this means put

1025
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 2: in context, if it moves the needle, and you know,

1026
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 2: there's a stand up moment where Trump and and keep

1027
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 2: in mind too, you know, immigration is Trump's well, was

1028
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 2: Trump's strongest suit. He's kind of slipped on that, but

1029
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 2: he asked legislators to stand if they believe in the

1030
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 2: government's first duties to protect citizens, not illegal aliens. And

1031
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 2: the Democrats who stayed seated, quite a few of them

1032
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 2: became an instant Republican ad was that was a trap

1033
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 2: that was strategically set. It wasn't really organic. How effective

1034
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 2: is that move?

1035
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 9: And i'd sear you good to setting traps because you know,

1036
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 9: was that last year where you know, it was all

1037
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 9: very very heated State of the Union. He just knows

1038
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 9: how to set traps for the Democrats. And you know,

1039
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 9: this has been twelve years, twelve you know, twelve years

1040
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 9: Democrats have not been able to figure him out that

1041
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 9: they just can't that. There's no way of him. You know,

1042
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 9: they just can't understand them. It's almost like trying to

1043
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 9: defend Lebron James.

1044
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: You can game plan for it, but when you get

1045
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 1: punched in the mouth, they they are queasy. They don't know. Yeah,

1046
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: they don't know what they're doing right exactly.

1047
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 9: And you know the thing about Trump though, is is

1048
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 9: that his highs are super high, but his lows are

1049
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 9: super low. So if you're the Democrats, you're just waiting

1050
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 9: this out. Let's say he won last night. You got

1051
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 9: nine months, eight months to the general election, and you

1052
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,280
Speaker 9: know you're really counting on those ten to fifteen percent

1053
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:56,720
Speaker 9: of the people who really feel the affordability crisis.

1054
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: And that's what I think both sides are going to

1055
00:47:58,760 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: be talking about the economy.

1056
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 2: It doesn't help or hurt him when he says, well,

1057
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,240
Speaker 2: it's it's fabricated the affordability crisis. There is no such thing. Basically,

1058
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:06,959
Speaker 2: that's kind of you in a nutshell what he said.

1059
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 2: The people buy. That depends if he can turn out.

1060
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 2: It depends if he can turn out as base.

1061
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, they their.

1062
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 9: Team crafted the perfect political strategy of basically, if we

1063
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 9: get eighty ninety percent of our people. It doesn't matter

1064
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 9: what the Democrats do. That's how they've won two presidential elections.

1065
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 1: So they're banking on that.

1066
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 2: And the parties are so far apart ideology from an

1067
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 2: ideological standpoint that you know, you look at Okay, well,

1068
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 2: even if you go, well, I don't think the tru

1069
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 2: it's the tariffs, it's not working, and then there's an

1070
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 2: affordable crisis. But then you turn towards the Democrats and

1071
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 2: I look at people like Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders

1072
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 2: and AOC and go, well, their ideas are going to

1073
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 2: be far worse. I guess I got to stick with

1074
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 2: this guy.

1075
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Speaker 9: Is that the reality, And that's the thing where you

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00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 9: know they have Democrats have not been able to find

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00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 9: a method to stick on Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: They just haven't in a lot of ways.

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Speaker 9: It's similar to when Obama was in office, Republicans couldn't

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00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 9: figure out a message to get him to lose an election.

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Speaker 9: And that's why they're both presidents. They understand the whims

1082
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,919
Speaker 9: of the general public. So you know, for the Democrats,

1083
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 9: they've been trying for years to try to craft the

1084
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 9: perfect message against Donald Trump. But the problem is he

1085
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 9: spent thirty He sent his whole adult life in front

1086
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 9: of the camera. So he understands entertainment, He understands narrative.

1087
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 9: He understands how to craft a message. And it's something

1088
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 9: that you know, a DC consultant can't craft when you're

1089
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 9: when a camera is in front of you.

1090
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Speaker 1: You have to be able to spend it. In a

1091
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: lot of politicians camp.

1092
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 2: There was a lot of hackling. We saw l Green

1093
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:56,760
Speaker 2: with his sign. He got pulled. Clay shouted most corrupt President,

1094
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 2: and he responded by saying, these people are crazy, which

1095
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 2: I'm laugh out loud. Does that out does that dry

1096
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 2: to outrage helped Trump or heard him? Is there a

1097
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 2: version where the party they didn't learn from last the

1098
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 2: mistakes they did last time because that kind of backfired

1099
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:10,399
Speaker 2: on them last time.

1100
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Speaker 9: Yes, and though I mean, you know it's so far away,

1101
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:18,760
Speaker 9: but it did backfire.

1102
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:19,240
Speaker 1: On him last time.

1103
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Speaker 9: But you know, we got nine months. I would I

1104
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 9: wouldn't read too much into that. You know, it's all

1105
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 9: gonna come down to the economy and the terriffs.

1106
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 2: On the teriff thing. The Supreme Court struck that down

1107
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 2: just a few days before the speech. Last night, he

1108
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 2: called it an unfortunate ruling. He said, we're going to

1109
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 2: keep it going through alternative means, and experts are saying, yeah,

1110
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 2: you're probably not gonna be able to do that either.

1111
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 2: Those will also be struck out as illegal. To someone

1112
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 2: who's watching at home worried about the price is that

1113
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 2: land or did it look like he was kind of

1114
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 2: back on the seals a little bit scrambling, because yeah,

1115
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 2: I guess the way to look at it is you

1116
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 2: look at the president, you look at the Supreme Court.

1117
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 2: Hu too, Americans strusts more.

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00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 1: Well.

1119
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 9: And his disapproval of the surme Court was very measured.

1120
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 9: It wasn't like him when he was lashing out on

1121
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 9: the Democrats. So I don't know if you noticed that,

1122
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 9: but it was a very measured and uh soft.

1123
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: Criticism of that.

1124
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a lot stronger true social than he

1125
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 2: was last night.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, you know.

1127
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 9: And that's also just the changing of politics where Democrats

1128
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 9: has been really slow to understand. Trolling is a part

1129
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:37,280
Speaker 9: of social media and Trump does it better than anyone.

1130
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 9: And there's been a lot of times where he trolls,

1131
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 9: but when push comes to shove, he'll he'll come back

1132
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 9: to a more reasonable approach, and he's a great rage

1133
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 9: baier against Democrats. They just don't they just don't know

1134
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 9: how to combat that. And the only person who kind

1135
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 9: of did any good was Joe Biden when he was

1136
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 9: still mentally you know, one.

1137
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 1: Hundred percent right. But that was a flash in the pans.

1138
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. He It was funny watching the predictable responsible because

1139
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 2: because even Hickeen Jeffrey said listen, shut the hell up,

1140
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 2: and clearly there are a number of Democrats that didn't

1141
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 2: heed his advice. And here we go again. Overall, the

1142
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 2: takeaway from this, the bottom line is what heading into

1143
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 2: the midterms here with the president's address last night, it was.

1144
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 9: A good night for the president based off of what

1145
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 9: you know, the polls show right now, but let's check

1146
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 9: back in two three weeks. You know, the Hakeem Jeffreys

1147
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 9: point or Johnson, they have the most, they have the

1148
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 9: worst jobs in DC. They're trying to corral two hundred

1149
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 9: and fifteen plus politicians who are all are trying.

1150
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 1: To make a name for themselves. So I do not

1151
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: envy either of those two guys.

1152
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 2: I guess my My takeaway from the whole thing last

1153
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 2: night was it's what I expected from the president, from

1154
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 2: Donald Trump, and he was he was in you know,

1155
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 2: Trump vinted Trump form as always. But I guess i'd

1156
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 2: rather hear him go, hey, listen, you know, admitting that.

1157
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 2: And he never does this, but he'd admit, like, it's

1158
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 2: been a rough first year. Okay, we get that, I understand,

1159
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 2: But but here's the light at the end of the tunnel.

1160
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 2: Here's what's happening behind the scenes. Here's what you're not

1161
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 2: seeing yet because all this pains lagging indicator. We are

1162
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 2: making progress. The worm is starting rather than going. It's

1163
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 2: the greatest economy ever. Everyone's excited with the hottest country

1164
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 2: in the world. I don't know if that lands with

1165
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 2: a lot of people. Quite honestly, I'd rather be told, hey, look,

1166
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 2: here's the pain part and pretty soon we're gonna have

1167
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 2: more game that I can live with.

1168
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Speaker 1: I don't disagree, but it's not his brand.

1169
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 2: Yep.

1170
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Speaker 9: You know, Trump has never apologized for anything, So if

1171
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 9: he started doing that, does that.

1172
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: Make him look weak to his voters? Does that make hits?

1173
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 9: Because is that a shift in authenticity for him? So

1174
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 9: I get why he wouldn't say, you know, hey, the

1175
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 9: last year's been rough, but Trump's the outlier of all presidents.

1176
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 9: Probably a lot of other presidents would say that he didn't.

1177
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 9: And we'll see, you know, because because what you were

1178
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 9: saying about the messaging points of the Democrats not standing,

1179
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 9: they can use all those cuts.

1180
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: Of the greatest economy in the world. So overall, I

1181
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: think it's pretty much a wash.

1182
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 4: You know.

1183
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 9: If you're a Democrat, you have a lot of things

1184
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 9: that you can say I disagreed with. If you're a Republican,

1185
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 9: there's a lot of things that you can say, he's

1186
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 9: doing great. At the end of the day, it always

1187
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 9: comes down to the independence the day really right and I.

1188
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 2: Go look at it, going, okay, what's the takeaway here?

1189
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 2: But again, time will tell if these policies are going

1190
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 2: to work out. It's not good for tariffs right now.

1191
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 2: But at some point are we going to start to

1192
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 2: see the fruits of this? And you hope it sooner

1193
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 2: rather than later, especially with Mittterm's come up joining the

1194
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 2: show this morning on the Big One Scott Sland Show.

1195
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 2: Kevin Burton, Pollster, a norther the kentucky've Cross Town consultant,

1196
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 2: thanks again for the time. I appreciate it.

1197
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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me slim.

1198
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 2: All right, you got a buddy. We got news update

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Speaker 2: here in just minutes. Julie balk joins the show coming

1200
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 2: up and a very interesting story that she's going to

1201
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 2: get into here next on the show. And some of

1202
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 2: a topic we talked about last week as a matter

1203
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,959
Speaker 2: of fact, with Coca Cola and discript dominating against men.

1204
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 2: And it's an interesting, interesting case that affects all of

1205
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 2: us who work for a living. We'll get into that

1206
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 2: just ahead here on seven hundred WWN helping you navigate

1207
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 2: the rocky path the fulfilling employee.

1208
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: Here's our career sub Julie.

1209
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 2: Balki, all right, this is from the Careful what you

1210
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 2: wish for a department, And this outcome of this could

1211
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 2: reshape how every company in America, small or large, structures

1212
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 2: its programming relative to diversity going forward. Trump talked about

1213
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 2: this last night in the State of the Union, but

1214
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 2: I mean it still exists out there. So here's an

1215
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 2: interesting case for you. Coca Cola and a outfit called

1216
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 2: Coca Cola Beverages Northeast has been sued by the EOC

1217
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 2: for sex discrimination. The government is alleging that the company

1218
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 2: excluded mail employees from a networking event for women, which

1219
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 2: would violate the Civil Rights Act. In nineteen sixty four,

1220
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 2: what they did was they hosted a women's form event.

1221
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 2: Two hundred and fifty female associates went, included network opportunities,

1222
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 2: discussions on navigating a male dominated industry, work life balance,

1223
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 2: and all those mom fields kind of things. And the

1224
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 2: lawsuit alleges the company denied mail employees the same compensation terms, conditions,

1225
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 2: privileges of employment offered and provided to female employees. That is,

1226
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 2: that is the straightforward civil rights violation. And you look

1227
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 2: at it going, well, did men have the same opportunity

1228
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:27,479
Speaker 2: to get that kind of enlightenment, hotel rooms, paid time,

1229
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 2: all that stuff. And the answer is no. That is

1230
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 2: a clear cut violation the Civil Rights Act. So we

1231
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 2: know that DEI is on the ropes in this country.

1232
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:37,439
Speaker 2: This is a whole different thing that's going to apply

1233
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 2: to your business now, and Julie is on to talk

1234
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 2: about it this morning. How are you?

1235
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 6: I'm fine?

1236
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 3: How are you?

1237
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 2: I am fine? What do you make of this ruling?

1238
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 6: So here's the here's the it makes sense. Okay, here's

1239
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 6: the demarcation. A company sponsored event, Yes, is very just

1240
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:05,959
Speaker 6: from twenty five women in the claims department going away

1241
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 6: for a weekend paying it for it themselves. And so

1242
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 6: the what the EOC is saying is company resources cannot

1243
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 6: be spent in a discriminatory manner. And so what I

1244
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 6: have seen it's interesting because what I have seen companies

1245
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 6: do is they will do things like, let's say there's

1246
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 6: I'm working with this one company.

1247
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: They're women's group.

1248
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 6: They generally have a lot of women. You know, they

1249
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 6: used to be women only events. They've covered a lot

1250
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 6: of topics that women have to deal with at work

1251
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 6: that most that you know, most people the men don't.

1252
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 6: And so what they started doing was they just started

1253
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 6: to change the wording. It was still an event. It

1254
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 6: was still focus on Maybe it's let's take an example,

1255
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 6: maybe it's focused on how to manage your work life

1256
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 6: your personal life when you're working full time.

1257
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's say that's the topic.

1258
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 6: I think it's easy to assume that that topic is

1259
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 6: going to appeal primarily to women, but it doesn't mean

1260
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 6: that there aren't men out there who deal with the

1261
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 6: same things. Maybe you have a wife or a partner

1262
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 6: with a very high powered job and you're both dealing

1263
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 6: with it and So the idea is you want to

1264
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 6: you want to open that content up to anybody who

1265
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 6: wants to attend, to anybody who that content is relevant for. Yes,

1266
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 6: Now will the majority of those people.

1267
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 2: Show up, mostly women?

1268
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 6: Yes, But that's that's the difference. And that's what most

1269
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 6: companies are doing, is they're saying, Okay, we still want

1270
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 6: to provide this content, but we're going to provide it.

1271
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 6: We're going to open it up to everyone. Because not

1272
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 6: all topics are for everyone, nor shouldn't they be, but

1273
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 6: we're going to give people who might normally not have

1274
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 6: been on the invite list. We're going to give them

1275
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 6: a chance opportunity to come to and personally, you know,

1276
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 6: that's a really good thing.

1277
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the tangible benefits are. And that's what the

1278
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 2: government's eoc's argument is is the company paid for you know,

1279
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty women, but the company paid for lodging,

1280
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 2: they paid for meals, they paid for other benefits for

1281
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 2: the attendees. They paid them their salaries, and they excuse

1282
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 2: them for their regular work duties. So that's not an

1283
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 2: after work you know, let's just have beers session. It's

1284
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 2: a compensated professional development tool. Is what this is, and

1285
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 2: that to me is the big distinction. This is not

1286
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 2: just a social let's get together and have cocktails after

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Speaker 2: work thing, which like, okay, everybody does that. It's the

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Speaker 2: fact that these women were at the seminar and exclusive

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Speaker 2: to women only, that men weren't a part of. And

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Speaker 2: I guess the wit to counter that would be have well,

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Speaker 2: then do a men's kind of form or something like that.

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Speaker 2: But then you're splitting hairs and we got to do

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Speaker 2: one for that and disabled people in different affected minority groups,

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Speaker 2: and you could just go on, you know, get LBGGQ

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Speaker 2: and the next thing you know, you're spending millions of

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Speaker 2: dollars on seminar. It's just to make it fair.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think you could say, okay, so let's

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Speaker 6: take the opposite. Let's say there's a company golf outing.

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Speaker 6: I think probably mostly if it's company sponsored golf outing

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Speaker 6: or something that maybe the company the fundraiser and company

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Speaker 6: sponsoring it, it probably would be disproportionately men. But they

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Speaker 6: aren't saying women can't come. And so that's the difference.

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Speaker 6: And what's so interesting about this to me is that

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Speaker 6: we've entered this time in our world where our workforce

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Speaker 6: is made up of so many people of different genders, races, backgrounds,

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Speaker 6: you know, different challenges they may have, and it's it's

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Speaker 6: it's not a one size fits all world. And so

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Speaker 6: what I'm seeing as a response to this, which I

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Speaker 6: actually think is a very healthy response, is it's not

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Speaker 6: about DEEI. It's about belonging. And so if I'm twenty five,

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Speaker 6: if I'm a twenty five year old white male, that

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Speaker 6: I have let's say I'm on the spectrum, I have

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Speaker 6: burgers or adhd or and so I need I need

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Speaker 6: to feel like I belong let's and so I need

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Speaker 6: maybe some special you know, maybe some some some special

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Speaker 6: content or training or something. I think that the problem

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Speaker 6: with the previous way of looking at it, with the

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Speaker 6: assumption that if you're a white male, you encounter no

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Speaker 6: problems at work, right, and all this right, and that

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Speaker 6: that can't possibly be true. Now, while it's sure, while

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Speaker 6: we're sure that women often face things that men don't,

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Speaker 6: younger people face things that older people don't. People who

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Speaker 6: are LGBTQ may face things that work that other people don't.

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Speaker 6: I think to divide that by gender is really asking

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Speaker 6: for trouble, because it's not. It's not about gender anymore.

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Speaker 6: Back when the workforce was very very much predominantly men,

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Speaker 6: white people and men, I can see that now we

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Speaker 6: have an extremely diverse population and workforce, and what people

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Speaker 6: are going to struggle with is really, how do we

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Speaker 6: make sure that everybody who comes in our door is

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Speaker 6: given a chance to feel like they belong and to

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Speaker 6: be successful and that can't cut across their lives.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and certainly women have been in short of the

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Speaker 2: stake historically speaking. But you know, with the inclusion and

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Speaker 2: the policies in DEI, you can make a legitimate claim

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Speaker 2: that Okay, you mentioned white men may feel overwhelmed, but

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Speaker 2: with all those change, especially men that have been around

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Speaker 2: for a while, going, okay, it's hard to keep up

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Speaker 2: with all this change. Maybe maybe they do need a

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Speaker 2: seminar themselves for this. But you know, again, is something

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Speaker 2: success has to come to the expense of someone else.

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Speaker 2: It's zero some game. That's the way it's always been.

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Speaker 2: But that's the problem.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think if you if you create the

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Speaker 6: type of environment, and I've had some I've had some

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Speaker 6: conversations with companies who are really really really great places

1348
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 6: to work. They're constantly recognized. They have their people love

1349
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 6: working there. They're rating her glass door really high, and

1350
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 6: they're struggling with how do we look forward and how

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Speaker 6: do we make sure instead of focusing on things like

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Speaker 6: quotas and numbers, how instead do we focus on making

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Speaker 6: sure we have the type of environment in which people

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Speaker 6: feel like they can come here, feel like they belong,

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Speaker 6: and that they can be successful. I think that's the

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Speaker 6: conversation that needs.

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Speaker 1: To be had moving forward.

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Speaker 2: Right She's Julie Bouki, our career SUIRP every Wednesday morning

1359
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 2: on the Scots Lawn Show, Julie on the Job on

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Speaker 2: seven hundred WLW and talking about this lawsuit that really

1361
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 2: doesn't have any meeting in your life, but it's going

1362
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 2: to because it's an impact where you work at some point.

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Speaker 2: The Equal Opportunity Commission, the EEOC, is suing Coca Cola

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Speaker 2: Northeast for sex discrimination because it was biased against men.

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Speaker 2: They invited two hundred and fifty employees to a resort.

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Speaker 2: They flew them in or got hotels for them and

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Speaker 2: paid for that, and it was during company time, but

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Speaker 2: it was a women's only seminar and according to the

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Speaker 2: Civil Rights Act of nineteen sixty four. You can't do

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Speaker 2: that because you're getting meals and salary and time off

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Speaker 2: from regular duties and paid lodging. And I'm sure there's

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Speaker 2: some reck and spa time maybe be golf, who knows

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Speaker 2: something like that, and there's gonna be entertainers. But that's

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Speaker 2: only for women and no one else. That's discriminatory according

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Speaker 2: to the law. And I'm glad we live in a

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Speaker 2: time where we can look at that going, Look, there's

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Speaker 2: no problem. It's not a big deal to lift people

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Speaker 2: up or lift a group up, but you have to

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Speaker 2: do it equitably and fairly. And that's the problem with

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Speaker 2: DEI all these years. And that's why I think the

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Speaker 2: president's right to overturn this is like it always has

1382
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 2: to come to the expense of someone else. Like all

1383
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Speaker 2: these groups matter, but if one group matters, they all matter.

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Speaker 2: How about just you know, if you want to be

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Speaker 2: better at your job or productive, quit looking at gender,

1386
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Speaker 2: quit looking at race, and quit looking at all these other

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Speaker 2: factors and just can you do the job or not?

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Speaker 2: Now that's the perfect world for me. That's not reality, of.

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Speaker 6: Course, right right, And that's so it's not it's not

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01:04:56,520 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 6: that we don't companies and humans and j general don't

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01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 6: recognize that that people that there are times when you know,

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Speaker 6: there are people who deal with different struggles in the

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Speaker 6: workplace and at different times. And so I might be

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Speaker 6: let's say I'm a twenty five year old life guy

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Speaker 6: and I'm like, I don't get it, what's the big

1396
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Speaker 6: deal here? Then he ends up, you know, he gets

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Speaker 6: married or gets a partner, they have a child, maybe

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Speaker 6: the child has special needs. Now all of a sudden,

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Speaker 6: you have parents who are really getting pulled in a

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Speaker 6: thousand different directions. All of a sudden, that life experience

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01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 6: may make him say, okay.

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Speaker 3: I get it a little bit now.

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Speaker 6: And so I think we have to just if we

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01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 6: create cultures of belonging and we bring in opportunities for

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Speaker 6: people to fully engage at work, but also, you know,

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Speaker 6: live that live that blended life successfully regardless of what

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Speaker 6: their situation is or what class or group they come from.

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Speaker 6: I think you're just We're just going to have a

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Speaker 6: lot better outcomes and a lot healthier conversation. And it's

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Speaker 6: but it's a shift, and so it's going to take

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Speaker 6: a bit for people to come to that shift. But

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Speaker 6: I'm a Boomer. If I can learn it, anybody can

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Speaker 6: learn it.

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Speaker 2: The critics of they say that the EEOC is misusing

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01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:14,919
Speaker 2: their limited resources to go after cases like this while

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Speaker 2: real discrimination in the workplace exists against women. How do

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Speaker 2: you weigh that argument?

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Speaker 10: Well?

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Speaker 6: And do we know that? Do we know that they

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Speaker 6: are not also going after other things in the department.

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Speaker 6: I think that's kind of a false comparison, yep, I

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Speaker 6: don't think. I don't think those two things necessarily two

1423
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 6: things can be true at once. They can be going

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Speaker 6: after and calling out these kinds of things, but also

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Speaker 6: calling out other things. But yes, those things exist. But

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Speaker 6: we have to do we have to do sort of

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Speaker 6: a frame of mind shift around how we look at this.

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Speaker 6: What can I do to make sure that my workplace

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Speaker 6: that I'm removing the barriers as a company leadership to

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Speaker 6: everybody who walks our door being the most fulfilled and

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Speaker 6: engaged they can be. How do I knock those barriers down?

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Speaker 1: Because that may.

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Speaker 6: Sound to you like, but it actually there's so many

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Speaker 6: studies that show that those types of cultures fall directly

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Speaker 6: to more success on the bottom line. And so it's

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Speaker 6: a business case. It's a business.

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Speaker 2: Barrierge Well, give me the examples of where this vast

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Speaker 2: discrimination is happening as opposed to, well, there's still discrimination. Well,

1439
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Speaker 2: of course there is. There's always going to be discriminations.

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Speaker 2: There are going to be crazy stories that come out

1441
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Speaker 2: in the news about somebody doing sexual harassment, or as

1442
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Speaker 2: long as men and women are together, that's going to happen.

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01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 2: That's the realist side. Doesn't mean we should accept it

1444
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 2: and just go okay whatever, But I'm saying it's going

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01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 2: to happen. We're the sexist co mingle. I guess the

1446
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:44,360
Speaker 2: way I look at it is with when it comes

1447
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 2: to DEI programs and the like, is they have we

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Speaker 2: you know, with pulling it back, are they going to

1449
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 2: be able to support themselves? Because at some point you've

1450
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 2: got to withdraw the program to see if we can

1451
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:55,920
Speaker 2: Steff the toddler can stand on its own. And I

1452
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 2: think it's high time we've done something like that. I

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01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 2: also know that this provides a lot of cover for

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01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 2: people who may not be good or competent in their jobs,

1455
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 2: as opposed to going, well, you know, either you do

1456
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 2: can do the job, or you can't do the job.

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01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 2: You can do this report, or you're not getting the

1458
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 2: concept and then immediately it reverts to Welt's discrimination. You're

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Speaker 2: treating me because of my gender, my skin color, my ethnicity,

1460
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 2: my sexual orientation. No, you just you suck at your job.

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Speaker 2: And unfortunately, for a long time, DEI has provided too

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Speaker 2: much cover for that.

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Speaker 6: Well, and let's it's not yeah, I mean, that's just

1464
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 6: poor leadership. I mean most of the issues at work

1465
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 6: today is poor leadership. So let me tell you a

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Speaker 6: story that just has must right real quick. And I

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Speaker 6: can tell the story pop because okay, okay, women I

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01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 6: know working her butt off in this job too, and

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Speaker 6: two and three jobs. She's the only woman on the team.

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Speaker 6: The owner of this company gave all the males a

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Speaker 6: bonus and a big raise, but not her.

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Speaker 3: And do you know why?

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Speaker 6: He said, Oh, you're nearly our strongest performer, but you're

1474
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Speaker 6: not the primary breadwinner in your household, so you don't

1475
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Speaker 6: need it.

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Speaker 2: How old is the guy, the boss?

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Speaker 1: He's sixty.

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01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. That's the problem is that age

1479
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 2: gap is like people still think like that.

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Speaker 6: Right yeah yeah, And so it still affects people. So

1481
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 6: there's still that thinking out there. And if that makes

1482
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 6: sense to you, if you're listening, to this and that

1483
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:27,599
Speaker 6: makes sense to you. You need to do some deep thinking, absolutely,

1484
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 6: because when you get learned, it's about the job. It's

1485
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 6: not about what your circumstances are outside of one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: Julie Balki our career sup. Every Wednesday morning's Julie on

1487
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Speaker 2: the job at the Balki Group, a UK, the BAKA

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Speaker 2: Career Coach, consultant, et cetera, advisor, your business, large, small

1489
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Speaker 2: or individual for that matter, All the best, have a

1490
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 2: great week. News is on the way. Next we'll talk

1491
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 2: about the State of the Union again and specifically the

1492
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 2: big thing is happened in the next seventy two hours here?

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01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 2: What is the deal with Iran? The President briefly touched

1494
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:57,560
Speaker 2: on this at the end last night. Mark and Silaco's

1495
01:09:57,560 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 2: here to break it down. Are we going to war?

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Speaker 2: That's the question. Next we'll have an answer. Seven hundred

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Speaker 2: WW Cincinnati. I don't want to be plony. On seven

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Speaker 2: hundred WLW. The clock is ticket here. That clock tick tick,

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Speaker 2: President Trump last night in the state of the Union

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Speaker 2: deal or military strike? What's going to happen with Iran?

1501
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 2: Right at the end of it. If you were able

1502
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:20,680
Speaker 2: to stay awake, that long, the longest State of the

1503
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:22,760
Speaker 2: Union ever at one hundred and eight minutes, said he

1504
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:26,719
Speaker 2: would never allowed Tehran to obtain nuclear weapons and says, hey, listen,

1505
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 2: I'd much rather do this diplomatically. So the latest done

1506
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 2: this is we have two US carrier strike groups now

1507
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 2: positioned in the region. There's a lot of US Navy

1508
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 2: ships there by the way, tomorrow nuclear talks will resume

1509
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 2: in Geneva. Rans four Minister says a deal is within reach.

1510
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 2: Pentagon leaked out some stuff regarding warnings in our military preparedness,

1511
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 2: and there's also what four straight days now fifty five

1512
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 2: days of university protests inside Iran, and this is all

1513
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 2: going to come to a head fairly soon, at least,

1514
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:57,799
Speaker 2: we think. Let me bring in doctor Mark Ensilaco, former

1515
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 2: director of International Studies and found a human rights program

1516
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 2: studies at the University of Dayton, the Middle Eastern terrorism expert.

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01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 2: Doctor Mark. Welcome back. How you doing.

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01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:06,720
Speaker 3: I'm doing well.

1519
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Speaker 9: How are you?

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01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 2: I'm doing well?

1521
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1522
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was a long speech last night. He did

1523
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:14,320
Speaker 2: Iran at the end. So the President said that and

1524
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 2: multiple times, including last night, that they of the United

1525
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 2: States obliterated Around's nuclear program in operation Midnight Hammer last June.

1526
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 2: Nuclear experts say it was significant, not total, because they

1527
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 2: still have enrichment facilities at two locations suspect of being crippled,

1528
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 2: but they still operate at least one other reactors. So

1529
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 2: from your expertise, how accurate is the word obliterated and

1530
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 2: how quickly could Iran start resuming and reconstituting their nuclear capabilities.

1531
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,680
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, so there was that sort of contradiction. It

1532
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:45,280
Speaker 7: was obliterated, but we might need to strike again. That

1533
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 7: was a bit confusing. And see, not an expert of

1534
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 7: nuclear proliferation, but from all I can see, they're set

1535
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 7: back and there had be a very difficult time. But

1536
01:11:56,520 --> 01:12:00,839
Speaker 7: has the destruction of equipment, of plans, right, research facility,

1537
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:06,639
Speaker 7: we're talking about the assassination of physicists and another scientists,

1538
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 7: rocket scientists, et cetera. So they're hurting, and as you

1539
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:14,480
Speaker 7: point out, with the unrest, the social unrest, the protests,

1540
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 7: the dissidents, they're having a very time, very difficult time

1541
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:24,439
Speaker 7: focusing on anything. And you mentioned at the top was interesting,

1542
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 7: you know, the clocks taking, but the clock's on outside.

1543
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 7: It's not right. They're gonna we have to strike them

1544
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 7: next week because in two weeks they could have an

1545
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 7: operational nuclear weapon. Pustly need missiles to be able to

1546
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 7: bring them the United States. It could strike digital, but

1547
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:41,639
Speaker 7: couldn't stake much there on that. So you know, Iron

1548
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 7: knows it's in a difficult situation and then knows that

1549
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 7: the President has no reluctance about using that hammer. It's

1550
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 7: moved a tremendous amount of military resources into the UH

1551
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:56,440
Speaker 7: into the area. And you mentioned aircraft carrier metal groups,

1552
01:12:56,479 --> 01:13:00,720
Speaker 7: but aircrafts too, so air trink or refuelers and bombers,

1553
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 7: and so Iron knows from a recent experience that the

1554
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:07,320
Speaker 7: United States has a hammer and it's willing to use it.

1555
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and it's classic carrot or stick, right, we

1556
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 2: have the carrot, but we'll crack you with the stick

1557
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 2: if we have to. And certainly no one wants that.

1558
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 2: Even Trump said that himself. It was like, we want

1559
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 2: to end this diplomatically and said we'll never allow them

1560
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:21,439
Speaker 2: to have a nuclear program. Their foreign minister said literally

1561
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 2: those words this week, the same thing, under no circumstances

1562
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 2: will we ever develop a nuclear weapon. President did acknowledge

1563
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 2: that in the last night in the State of the Union.

1564
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 2: So in that context. Now, what's really being negotiated here.

1565
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 2: It seems like the goalposts may be moving, and does

1566
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 2: it work in a context and framing his demands like

1567
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 2: this last night because they're admitting, hey, we don't want

1568
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 2: to do this, but we've seen in the past where

1569
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 2: well Iraq, right, we believe them would be developing programs

1570
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 2: and weapons of mass destruction. Of course, you know we

1571
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 2: saw what happened there in context, but again we can't

1572
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:52,840
Speaker 2: be too sure, can't we.

1573
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 7: No, you know, these are secret facilities and try to

1574
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 7: hide them underground. Our intelligence good Israeli tell is very good,

1575
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:03,879
Speaker 7: but there's things.

1576
01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 1: We don't know.

1577
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 7: But you know, maturely interesting. The the Iranians, i think,

1578
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:13,640
Speaker 7: want an outcome that's similar to the deal that he

1579
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 7: withdrew from before, right, so they can have rich to

1580
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 7: a certain degree and the UN can keep an eye

1581
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 7: on them, and they still retain that Trump President Trump

1582
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 7: wants and he's in a.

1583
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:25,719
Speaker 1: Position to obtain.

1584
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 7: He wants this complete nuclearization, you know, no, enrichment to

1585
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 7: a certain level where the possibility for a breakout. But

1586
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 7: there's something else that to bring up, Scott, you know

1587
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 7: you mentioned the dissonance you have a regime That is

1588
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:45,800
Speaker 7: how it's difficult today, but it's close to tottering right,

1589
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 7: And another president has spoken repeatedly about opposing regime wars

1590
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 7: of a regime change. One wonders if in the back

1591
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 7: of their mind the Houston military force is.

1592
01:14:57,560 --> 01:14:58,880
Speaker 1: More regime change.

1593
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 7: Now, by the way, if that theocratic regime comes down

1594
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 7: the nuclear issue and the nuclear program, the missile programs,

1595
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 7: support for terrorism, that goes away because there are reasonably

1596
01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 7: democratic forces inside around who do that. So, whether that's

1597
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 7: intentional or not, a military strike would you know, hasten

1598
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:20,920
Speaker 7: the collapse of the regime. It may be the purpose.

1599
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:24,600
Speaker 7: So what I would strongly urge is as we go

1600
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 7: through the negotiation, prefer negotiated solution to the nuclear situation,

1601
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 7: of course, but whether we're behind regime change with military

1602
01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:37,759
Speaker 7: strike with all the means, we need to start thinking

1603
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:40,639
Speaker 7: five steps down the road, not a step ahead, because

1604
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:42,720
Speaker 7: this is gonna be a very complex situation. Is a

1605
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:47,479
Speaker 7: large society, It could be civil war, it could be

1606
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:50,679
Speaker 7: trying to some senstability and violence, and that's inpact, oil

1607
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:53,639
Speaker 7: and everything else. So we're you know, one thing under

1608
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:57,719
Speaker 7: this administration is with Venezuela and now Cuba, is next

1609
01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 7: on the hit list. Uh, he's seeing the transformation in

1610
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 7: the global map in a way that's favorable to us interest.

1611
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:06,599
Speaker 7: So in the back of my mind, I wonder if

1612
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:08,920
Speaker 7: a lot of the stable rattling really has to do

1613
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:12,440
Speaker 7: with regime change, not democlearization.

1614
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:15,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and on that point too, we have protests, as

1615
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:18,800
Speaker 2: I said, erupting in universities around Iran, chounting death to

1616
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 2: Kameni and raising the pre revolution flag. They want to

1617
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:23,639
Speaker 2: go back to seventy pre seventy nine, which you know,

1618
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 2: it was a completely free society. You look at pictures

1619
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 2: from then versus now, and it's it looks extremely western.

1620
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 2: You know, the women are going to university dressing in

1621
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 2: Western clothes. And this regime came in and seventy nine

1622
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:38,240
Speaker 2: and changed all that. Human rights groups said seven thousand

1623
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:40,800
Speaker 2: people were killed fifty thousand arrested in the January crackdown.

1624
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 2: So they're seeing that pressure. But at the same time,

1625
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:46,640
Speaker 2: the regime is now mobilizing their militia on campuses in

1626
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 2: attacking the protesters themselves in this regard, So does that

1627
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:52,680
Speaker 2: this military action, if we get involved in this in

1628
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 2: Iran militarily, does it strengthen comedies hold on power, because

1629
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:57,599
Speaker 2: we've seen these things backfire before too.

1630
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 7: Yes, that's who knows. Who knows. I mean, certainly dissidents

1631
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 7: within Iran want the regime to come down, but they

1632
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 7: don't want the Shaw's sun to come back, and they

1633
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 7: don't necessarily want to come to power to bring out

1634
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:18,639
Speaker 7: democratic change at the point at the point of a gun,

1635
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 7: an American gun. That puts them in a very difficult

1636
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 7: situation in terms of their legitimacy. You know, because after

1637
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:30,720
Speaker 7: in December and January the violence there, the regime came

1638
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 7: out and said, yes, the word deaths, that they were

1639
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 7: caused by outside agitators and the Zionists and Americans. So

1640
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 7: certainly they'll try to leverage us involvement in terms of

1641
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 7: public opinion. But let me say something. I'm teaching on

1642
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:48,880
Speaker 7: this class, my political violence seminar is now in his

1643
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 7: thirty sixty year and we're dealing with Iran. You get

1644
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:55,559
Speaker 7: the number of a five thousand killed, I'm hearing forty

1645
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:59,679
Speaker 7: thousand killed. We remember ten of men that was located

1646
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:04,599
Speaker 7: in Animn and there are there are thousands there, one hundreds,

1647
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 7: certainly thousands.

1648
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 5: Here.

1649
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:11,479
Speaker 7: You had protests throughout the country every major city, and

1650
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 7: you write the Beijis and the other militia groups and

1651
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:18,639
Speaker 7: the Revolutionary Guards are quite brutal and repressive, and they're

1652
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:20,840
Speaker 7: not going to go quietly, you know. I remember when

1653
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 7: the Arab Spring was happening a number of years ago

1654
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 7: and the government Morocco fell to me eventually in Egypt.

1655
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 7: I remember being asked about Syria and I said, well, no,

1656
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 7: the regime Alfas Alasada and Beshier Alasada will fight to

1657
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 7: the last Syrian. It will be no way they're going

1658
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:37,599
Speaker 7: to go quietly. And that's where they see what they're

1659
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 7: ranning regime. They're not going to go quietly, whether we

1660
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 7: strike them or not. And what would we strike? One thing,

1661
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 7: restriking the nuclear facilities or the air defenses. But to

1662
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 7: have any direct involvement you impact on the democracy movement. Uh,

1663
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:58,560
Speaker 7: then they have to wait to strike. What strike the

1664
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 7: Revolutionary Guard had quarters. I mean, it becomes very it

1665
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 7: becomes then becomes a walk, then becomes an intervention in

1666
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 7: another country in a war that's not over eliminating a

1667
01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 7: nuclear threat. Man, Now you're talking about a legion change war,

1668
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 7: which MAGA was opposed to.

1669
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 2: And I only that We're very bad at it. Every time,

1670
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:21,599
Speaker 2: seems like every time we do it. Mark Ensiolaco from

1671
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:24,679
Speaker 2: the University of Dayton. What happens is we put it here, Okay,

1672
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 2: we got a regime change, and then we forget. We

1673
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 2: move on to the next shiny thing, and then all

1674
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 2: this chaos occurs in country and we get another despot

1675
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 2: in charge. It's worse than the one. We spent all

1676
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:36,280
Speaker 2: this money, time and sadly bodies on trying to displace.

1677
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 2: We don't have the I guess, the fortitude to make

1678
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 2: sure that the democracy takes rue whatever that looks like.

1679
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 2: I mean, it's certainly what the students want, but you

1680
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:49,640
Speaker 2: wonder how many of the people who work for the

1681
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 2: autocratic society, meaning the generals and their minions, don't want

1682
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 2: that at all, and they'll completely undermine that to stay

1683
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:55,719
Speaker 2: in power.

1684
01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1685
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:01,719
Speaker 7: On a personality side of it, I hope the president

1686
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:06,439
Speaker 7: is paying listening more closely to Marco Rubio than exist.

1687
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:10,400
Speaker 7: I just think in terms of their ability to analyze it.

1688
01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:13,160
Speaker 7: Talked about you need to be five steps ahead. Uh,

1689
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 7: Marcal Rubio is five steps ahead. Probably is thinking about

1690
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:22,320
Speaker 7: the complex all the things you raised is delightful. You know,

1691
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:26,880
Speaker 7: it's wonderful the moment whenever the dictator's statue was pulled down,

1692
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 7: you know where Sidam was saying it. That was a

1693
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:33,599
Speaker 7: wonderful movement. But when you know, we got drawn into

1694
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:36,120
Speaker 7: that war and we were very we got drawn into

1695
01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 7: the surge because we were uh, in our in our

1696
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:46,280
Speaker 7: greed to democratize a rack, we ended up just destabilizing

1697
01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 7: in the war that they're in Vegas. And and I

1698
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:51,880
Speaker 7: think and even President Trump is aware of that. I

1699
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:52,800
Speaker 7: think he's quite aware of it.

1700
01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:55,200
Speaker 2: How in danger are our troops are assets out there?

1701
01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 2: Ran has threatened to retaliate as hard as possible, uh

1702
01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 2: and said that Hey, Comandie even said we can sink

1703
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 2: a US worship has Bala, The Houthis or Rocky militias

1704
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:08,080
Speaker 2: are all across the region. What's a realistic retaliation scenario

1705
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 2: if we strike? What do they do to us? What's

1706
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 2: the most dangerous move they can make against us?

1707
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's an excellent question. And then it really the

1708
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:20,360
Speaker 7: answer depends on a realistic assessment of their capabilities. So

1709
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:24,599
Speaker 7: in two things, One they could fire off short range missiles.

1710
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:26,960
Speaker 7: Now rock did is and there were scuds and they

1711
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:30,680
Speaker 7: were in accurate, but Iranian weapons that rocket program is

1712
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 7: where it's just getting so they can start lobbing some things.

1713
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:39,040
Speaker 7: They would have to overpower our anti ballistic missile equipment,

1714
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:42,879
Speaker 7: you know, our Patriot system, our armed iron dome systems.

1715
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:46,880
Speaker 7: But you know they could sneak a weapon, and it's

1716
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 7: one of these places. It's happened in Syria recently and

1717
01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:54,640
Speaker 7: Jordan where soldiers and military contract has been hit by

1718
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 7: a straight rocket. So that's one in good old days.

1719
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:02,440
Speaker 7: They said that facetiously, it was you would expect terror operations,

1720
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 7: so you expect, you know, it takes it pick a

1721
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 7: military action and you never know what the US embassy's

1722
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:10,680
Speaker 7: attacked in. I don't know, boinos Ares or something, so

1723
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 7: the terrorist can now struck at that. But the real

1724
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:17,479
Speaker 7: question is you mentioned is Boland the huties they're hurt.

1725
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 7: They're hurt very er badly. You know that there's really

1726
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:25,760
Speaker 7: attack with the pagers eliminated. We can his blog quite deal.

1727
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:31,360
Speaker 7: So they've lost the land bridge across Syria to Lebanon.

1728
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:33,200
Speaker 1: Hutu.

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01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 7: Situation is really complex, so I don't I don't want

1730
01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 7: to underestimate their ability either to strike US with a

1731
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:45,439
Speaker 7: missile or too overwhelm our missile defenses, or it's terrorism,

1732
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:49,799
Speaker 7: but it's it's real. It always attack has been. Remember

1733
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 7: we attacked Libya in nineteen eighty six, remember Richard Nixon,

1734
01:22:55,360 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 7: I mean Ronald Reagan and nineteen eighty nine we had

1735
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:03,960
Speaker 7: penem one thing that was them, I mean, that was

1736
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:07,880
Speaker 7: the retaliation. So there's that possibility. It's good for it's

1737
01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:09,640
Speaker 7: good that you brought that up. In addition to the

1738
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 7: ineptness that sort of managing a democratic change in society's

1739
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:17,559
Speaker 7: foreigned to us, there's the terrorist that lingers as well.

1740
01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:21,759
Speaker 2: Okay, last night President Trump mark doctor mark on Siloaka

1741
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:24,840
Speaker 2: from University Dayton, Trump claimed Iran as building missiles right now,

1742
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:29,800
Speaker 2: intercontinental ballistic missiles it could reach the United States. Didn't

1743
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:31,960
Speaker 2: offer any evidence for that. But how close to the

1744
01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:34,720
Speaker 2: truth is that do we know? And what's the intelligence picture.

1745
01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:40,959
Speaker 7: Here versus you know, Iranians are good physicist, physicists and scientists.

1746
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:43,840
Speaker 7: They got a very robust missile program. I mean there's

1747
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:47,160
Speaker 7: a there's a there's units within a relutionary guard that

1748
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 7: are in charge of this is weaponized. It a lot

1749
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 7: of cooperation with the Chinese in North Koreans, they're actually

1750
01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:59,560
Speaker 7: arming h Russia. You know, they're with the with the

1751
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 7: the drones, et cetera. So they're versphisticated arms manufacturing basis.

1752
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:09,840
Speaker 7: And you know, I worry about the missile program as

1753
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 7: much as the nuclear program because got a nuclear you know,

1754
01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:15,720
Speaker 7: assuming you can produce a nuclear weapon, and they cout,

1755
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:18,640
Speaker 7: could they got the uglinium and they got the expertise,

1756
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:20,760
Speaker 7: could they miniaturize it to be able to put on

1757
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:22,800
Speaker 7: a rocket, But you need a rocket to be able

1758
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:25,920
Speaker 7: to hit its target. Pack. Really, Israel is already in

1759
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:29,880
Speaker 7: the shadow of that, but certainly the United States, the

1760
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:34,400
Speaker 7: United States is yet but yeah, they got to. I

1761
01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:37,120
Speaker 7: can't give it a complete assessment, but I would. I would.

1762
01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:42,320
Speaker 7: I would assess it as you know, uh, a moderate

1763
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:48,080
Speaker 7: at least a moderate probability that they're advancing towards intercontinental blissage.

1764
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's the problem is we don't know. We're

1765
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:52,759
Speaker 2: just guessing. So this thing steps up if we launch

1766
01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 2: or we strike a deal. Let's say that this happens

1767
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 2: and right now rants doing military drills in the straight

1768
01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:00,720
Speaker 2: up our moves. That's about what roughly twenty percent of

1769
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:03,800
Speaker 2: the world oil supply. We're seeing the price of oil.

1770
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:05,720
Speaker 2: The prices are good right now, but we're in near

1771
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:08,040
Speaker 2: seven months high. So what happens to global energy markets

1772
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 2: if we strike them?

1773
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:17,400
Speaker 7: Oh my, you know the petroleum market is so complex

1774
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 7: now now with Venezuela sort of off back online, they

1775
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:26,000
Speaker 7: have production capabilities, but how they're they're given the oil

1776
01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 7: to watch. And the President mentioned that lists and in

1777
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:34,679
Speaker 7: the City Union rather than rather than Cuba or North Korea,

1778
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:39,080
Speaker 7: so that offsets it. But no, whenever there's whenever there's

1779
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:43,599
Speaker 7: disruption of shipping, it's quite scary. Remember remember View said

1780
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:47,680
Speaker 7: start Remember our warship was struck, and you know the

1781
01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:49,760
Speaker 7: Ranians got a presence there and they get the speed

1782
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 7: boats and everything like that, so there's things they could do.

1783
01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:56,479
Speaker 7: So you've got to imagine we think about the air strikes,

1784
01:25:56,640 --> 01:26:00,120
Speaker 7: we think about the air force being able to like

1785
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:03,280
Speaker 7: these out rates. Uh, big burden is going to rest

1786
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 7: on the capable shoulders of the Maybe, but the Navy

1787
01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 7: was gonna have to keep the straight of hormonies open

1788
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:13,080
Speaker 7: and protect the shipping ranks, and which we did during

1789
01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:17,240
Speaker 7: the roan At War we flagged tankers et cetera, et cetera.

1790
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 7: But no, those Revolutionary Guard Nagel boats, those speed boats yep, yeah,

1791
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:28,120
Speaker 7: we remember in North Korea? Remember, uh you know them.

1792
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 7: I'm trying to think of the name of the of

1793
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 7: the warship as the time, but yeah, they're they're coal

1794
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:39,000
Speaker 7: Yeah well coal was Yeah, that was al Qaeda. I'm

1795
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:40,919
Speaker 7: thinking of Maya Mayagu West remember.

1796
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:42,800
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, But I mean that's a

1797
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 2: con attacted. These a smaller speedy boat and you know

1798
01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:48,040
Speaker 2: it's brigged with explosives, and you know it only takes

1799
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 2: one of those to get through the ring around our

1800
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:53,799
Speaker 2: warships before I let you go. Yeah yeah, Mark on Slaco.

1801
01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 2: So the clock is ticking here, deal or military strike?

1802
01:26:57,400 --> 01:26:59,320
Speaker 2: How do you how do you see this thing playing out?

1803
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:01,960
Speaker 2: Which scenario is more probable? And what should be prepared

1804
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 2: for here in the homeland?

1805
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:05,479
Speaker 8: Wow?

1806
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:09,719
Speaker 7: Us tough questions. I just tell you, you know, my guess.

1807
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:14,040
Speaker 7: My guess is I take the president's work. He wants

1808
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:17,799
Speaker 7: a deal, he's a deal maker. But my my hunches

1809
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 7: there's going to be a military strike. Uh you know,

1810
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:24,200
Speaker 7: it would seem being fastigious, such a waste to bring

1811
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 7: all that equip and all that flower not use it.

1812
01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:30,559
Speaker 7: And the Secretary of war. I think likes to order

1813
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 7: military operations. So my guess is there'll be some limited strike,

1814
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:38,200
Speaker 7: just not a massive attack, but there'll be something too

1815
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:42,600
Speaker 7: to get the attention and the Iranians. So when they

1816
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:45,760
Speaker 7: go back and think of Nixon and Christmas bombing and

1817
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:50,760
Speaker 7: Hanoi finally coming to a shutting table, my guess would be,

1818
01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:53,439
Speaker 7: you're going to see some limited military action. And I

1819
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:57,240
Speaker 7: hope I'm wrong. I offer them, but it's it's real possibility, and.

1820
01:27:57,320 --> 01:27:59,680
Speaker 2: I guess I reply their response and would probably be

1821
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:02,160
Speaker 2: a terror space attack as opposed to a you know,

1822
01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:04,479
Speaker 2: talking about launching missiles and the like AATUS and our

1823
01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:07,120
Speaker 2: assets which are over prepared for that, but you know,

1824
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:08,840
Speaker 2: terrorism is a much lower bar.

1825
01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 7: Yeah. And there's and and they say in the business,

1826
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:16,120
Speaker 7: there's a lot of soft targets. You asked about threat

1827
01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 7: to milk and military. Remember we were in Iraq were

1828
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:24,160
Speaker 7: we were hit in Saudi Arabia the air force, air

1829
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:28,080
Speaker 7: force bases and things like this. But the favorite target

1830
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:32,599
Speaker 7: for terrorists or soft targets, so that means a tourist hotel.

1831
01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:36,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sadly uh. Doctor Mark Nzelaco at the University

1832
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:39,479
Speaker 2: of Date and former Director International Studies Program Founder Human

1833
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 2: Rights Studies at UD Middle Eastern Terrorism Experts. Book is

1834
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 2: Black September to September eleventh. I appreciate the time as always.

1835
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:48,400
Speaker 7: Thank you. Scott, had a good day.

1836
01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:50,519
Speaker 2: Yeah you too. Not not the news you want to hear.

1837
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:52,720
Speaker 2: And I hope he's dead wrong about this whole thing

1838
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:54,840
Speaker 2: that cooled their heads to prevail and we can come

1839
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:58,479
Speaker 2: to some sort of deal struck with Iran, as the

1840
01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:00,479
Speaker 2: President talked about last night in the State to the Union.

1841
01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:02,800
Speaker 2: How about news and now we'll return and lighten it

1842
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 2: up a little bit because we need to get a

1843
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:05,640
Speaker 2: lighter than that. Right Sarah Elise is here. It's a

1844
01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:08,880
Speaker 2: snort report. We'll talk some sports next seven hundred w Old.

1845
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:17,160
Speaker 5: Are you prepared? Aren't prepare?

1846
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:21,439
Speaker 4: Who's ready for the paige? I'm prepared, prepared for the

1847
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:23,200
Speaker 4: pork and the sort.

1848
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:29,880
Speaker 2: It's a snow report on seven hundred Sarah from one

1849
01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:35,960
Speaker 2: Sports meets social Media. Yeah, you sound like hell right now?

1850
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:36,800
Speaker 2: What are you doing here?

1851
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:37,680
Speaker 1: Even you know what?

1852
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:41,439
Speaker 8: It's better I'm having to hear about it because God forbid,

1853
01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:43,360
Speaker 8: I take a day off from this place.

1854
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:46,320
Speaker 2: Who's killing you about taking a day off when you're sick.

1855
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:50,599
Speaker 4: His name starts with kid and ends with Chris.

1856
01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:51,960
Speaker 2: Is it kid Chris?

1857
01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:52,400
Speaker 5: I think?

1858
01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:52,560
Speaker 6: So?

1859
01:29:52,760 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1860
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:53,200
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1861
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:53,560
Speaker 3: What what?

1862
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:54,760
Speaker 2: Why are you afraid to have?

1863
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:56,400
Speaker 4: First time that I sniffle.

1864
01:29:56,920 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 8: He's like, oh, great, You're probably gonna have to take

1865
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:00,439
Speaker 8: the take the day off, and I'm like, yeah, because

1866
01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:01,439
Speaker 8: I do that all the time, dolt.

1867
01:30:01,479 --> 01:30:04,720
Speaker 4: I I think I took two sick days last year.

1868
01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:07,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's done this as long as I have.

1869
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:08,519
Speaker 2: He can do the show himself.

1870
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:09,920
Speaker 4: Can I don't think he can.

1871
01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:12,200
Speaker 2: We just play another song. You can play like seven songs,

1872
01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:17,040
Speaker 2: some more Ozzy Osbourne and a c DC and no,

1873
01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:20,519
Speaker 2: my sick voice I haven't heard on those airwaves. They

1874
01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:22,639
Speaker 2: have to be on there. What happens if it doesn't,

1875
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:23,479
Speaker 2: Hell's to pay.

1876
01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:26,639
Speaker 4: So now you all can listen to my stuffy snort.

1877
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:28,439
Speaker 2: That means I get sick and I have no problem

1878
01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:28,960
Speaker 2: taking a six.

1879
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:32,599
Speaker 8: No, you don't, and you shouldn't. We get sick days

1880
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:34,840
Speaker 8: for a reason. There's a reason we've got like eighty

1881
01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:35,680
Speaker 8: hours of sick days.

1882
01:30:35,680 --> 01:30:37,240
Speaker 2: Well I should be that guy. It's like I'll power

1883
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:39,200
Speaker 2: through it. Well, what happens is you feel miserable, you

1884
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:40,920
Speaker 2: show up and then everyone around you sick and they

1885
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:42,400
Speaker 2: take the sick day, so you work even more when

1886
01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:43,120
Speaker 2: you're sick, like.

1887
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:45,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, and then they're putting their fists in there like

1888
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:47,120
Speaker 8: damn it, Sarah, why did you show up with your

1889
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:48,400
Speaker 8: sick sickness?

1890
01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:51,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not like my job is I'm working on

1891
01:30:52,080 --> 01:30:53,960
Speaker 2: a human brain or something like that where I'm doing

1892
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:56,800
Speaker 2: spinal surgery. And it's like it is, it's just a radio.

1893
01:30:56,920 --> 01:31:01,599
Speaker 8: Dan Carroll will happily be here, ken Brew. The list

1894
01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:03,880
Speaker 8: goes on, Mike Gallon.

1895
01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:08,519
Speaker 2: Go, they're fine, Well, I appreciate you being a trooper.

1896
01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:11,000
Speaker 4: Hey, you know what it's like, I said, it's it's

1897
01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:12,040
Speaker 4: better than having to.

1898
01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:14,439
Speaker 2: Hear about it too, because you're congested.

1899
01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:16,000
Speaker 4: Oh, we're super stuffy for this.

1900
01:31:17,080 --> 01:31:18,600
Speaker 2: You're not going to snort and snot all over me,

1901
01:31:18,640 --> 01:31:19,519
Speaker 2: though it could happen.

1902
01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:21,639
Speaker 8: And I feel bad because I know all the older

1903
01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:23,880
Speaker 8: gentlemen around here, like I can't be getting you guys sick,

1904
01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:26,400
Speaker 8: like your immune systems are very sarious.

1905
01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:28,519
Speaker 2: Older people too. It's like a Gallagher show here, we're

1906
01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:30,519
Speaker 2: in the front row. We're smashing water mills. Like it's

1907
01:31:30,600 --> 01:31:32,960
Speaker 2: not all over I gotta I gotta wear a poncho.

1908
01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:36,200
Speaker 8: And you know who's on this mic next, our friend Seg.

1909
01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:40,360
Speaker 8: He sits here. We don't need him getting sick. He's

1910
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:41,200
Speaker 8: very important.

1911
01:31:41,240 --> 01:31:43,040
Speaker 10: I don't think he ever gets he never leaves, he

1912
01:31:43,160 --> 01:31:46,040
Speaker 10: never content sick. We have been haveing next contact with

1913
01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:48,479
Speaker 10: people to get sick, all of us here at I heeart.

1914
01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:49,559
Speaker 10: That's it, that's true, all right.

1915
01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:54,400
Speaker 4: Someone who's not sick are Miami RedHawks. They are alive.

1916
01:31:55,160 --> 01:31:55,759
Speaker 2: I'm healthy.

1917
01:31:56,439 --> 01:31:58,640
Speaker 8: Everybody else is sick of them winning because now they

1918
01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:01,559
Speaker 8: are twenty eight no, and they are three wins away

1919
01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:05,599
Speaker 8: until a perfect season. A little rough last night though

1920
01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:08,720
Speaker 8: not their best performance, but still got it done. You

1921
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:11,400
Speaker 8: are going to have that, you know, Friday making every

1922
01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:15,040
Speaker 8: single three. Last night not so much little toff. I

1923
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:17,280
Speaker 8: didn't think they're going to make it through that one

1924
01:32:17,320 --> 01:32:17,840
Speaker 8: for a little bit.

1925
01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:19,840
Speaker 4: They did three to go.

1926
01:32:20,200 --> 01:32:21,880
Speaker 2: But is it challenging them? I mean, it's not like

1927
01:32:21,880 --> 01:32:23,200
Speaker 2: they're paying a big team. You're coming up.

1928
01:32:24,479 --> 01:32:27,240
Speaker 8: I think that It's like Western Michigan. They had Eastern

1929
01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:30,479
Speaker 8: last night, Western this Friday the other night.

1930
01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:33,120
Speaker 4: It was a good game. There was not one Beg

1931
01:32:33,400 --> 01:32:36,280
Speaker 4: fan at Mallett Hall. Another sold out game too.

1932
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:36,840
Speaker 2: It was cool.

1933
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:38,920
Speaker 4: I'm like when I was here. This never happened.

1934
01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:42,960
Speaker 8: I went to there's fans, no plenty of guys on

1935
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:44,679
Speaker 8: the bench, though, I was like, why do these guys

1936
01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:46,920
Speaker 8: have twenty five coaches? Like what is the point of

1937
01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:49,360
Speaker 8: every single guy inna brown polo walking around?

1938
01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:50,000
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1939
01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:53,280
Speaker 8: They just want to close up of Miami weddings. That Yeah,

1940
01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:56,680
Speaker 8: I almost brought in my diploma today since some of

1941
01:32:56,760 --> 01:33:01,959
Speaker 8: you gentlemen forgot that I actually Gridge waited from Miami University.

1942
01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:04,400
Speaker 2: Forgot you graduated from me after all these years. I

1943
01:33:04,479 --> 01:33:05,840
Speaker 2: thought you were a youth. I thought you went to

1944
01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:07,720
Speaker 2: UC as much UC swag as you have.

1945
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:09,840
Speaker 8: Well, I worked for the campus and I can't be

1946
01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:13,320
Speaker 8: over here hyping up Miami while I'm working for the Bearcats.

1947
01:33:13,360 --> 01:33:14,479
Speaker 4: I still love both.

1948
01:33:15,439 --> 01:33:18,559
Speaker 2: Changing both to the front runner address is what.

1949
01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:21,720
Speaker 8: If that's what you want to call? Yeah, I just

1950
01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:23,840
Speaker 8: set you in Austin Omore straight.

1951
01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:28,280
Speaker 2: On, Fred Miami Grant. I thought you went these years.

1952
01:33:28,360 --> 01:33:30,040
Speaker 2: You see you, you see stuff all the time. I

1953
01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:33,240
Speaker 2: actually went to UC. You went at Miami, So I

1954
01:33:33,320 --> 01:33:33,680
Speaker 2: admit it.

1955
01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:37,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, So every person in my family graduated from UC,

1956
01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:39,200
Speaker 8: like my grandpa, uncle's dad.

1957
01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:42,360
Speaker 4: I'm like the lone Miami grad of my family.

1958
01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:46,439
Speaker 8: So yeah, right twenty ten baby, all the way back

1959
01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:50,200
Speaker 8: to twenty ten go red Hawks, and of course Brick Street,

1960
01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:53,360
Speaker 8: the most famous bar in the world. Right now, we're

1961
01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:56,200
Speaker 8: very rowdy. Over the week I sure started for that

1962
01:33:56,760 --> 01:33:57,280
Speaker 8: gold medal.

1963
01:33:57,360 --> 01:33:58,280
Speaker 2: Wag was awesome.

1964
01:33:58,520 --> 01:34:00,280
Speaker 8: It was very awesome, and we were to It's there

1965
01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:04,479
Speaker 8: on Friday night before hoops. Hardly anybody there, and I'm like,

1966
01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:06,920
Speaker 8: I promise you this place will be packed for hockey,

1967
01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:09,720
Speaker 8: very much of the hockey hockey town.

1968
01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:10,160
Speaker 1: Sure.

1969
01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:13,240
Speaker 4: I watched more hockey games there than foot.

1970
01:34:14,800 --> 01:34:16,960
Speaker 2: To watch. Again, that's a great and glad to see

1971
01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:18,000
Speaker 2: that Miami hockey's back.

1972
01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:19,160
Speaker 4: And it's tiny too.

1973
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:21,000
Speaker 8: I mean you're only going to have like three thousand

1974
01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:24,120
Speaker 8: people in there, so every seat is really good and

1975
01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:25,880
Speaker 8: you're pretty much guaranteed to see him win.

1976
01:34:26,200 --> 01:34:28,439
Speaker 4: I don't think I've ever seen a Miami hockey loss.

1977
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:31,120
Speaker 8: Speaking of hockey, if you do want to get your fix,

1978
01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:34,639
Speaker 8: the Cyclones are back at it tonight seven thirty puck

1979
01:34:34,720 --> 01:34:38,600
Speaker 8: drop two dollars beers and this weekend they become the

1980
01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:45,080
Speaker 8: Cincinnati three Ways. What something that only makes sense and

1981
01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:48,719
Speaker 8: Cincinnati if you were a fan of the Chili new jerseys.

1982
01:34:48,760 --> 01:34:50,240
Speaker 2: Every every game there's a new jersey.

1983
01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:52,240
Speaker 8: It keeps things fun though it's it's gonna be a

1984
01:34:52,280 --> 01:34:54,400
Speaker 8: good time. Matt Sheer is my buddy that designed those

1985
01:34:54,439 --> 01:34:56,000
Speaker 8: did a great job. So if you can make it

1986
01:34:56,120 --> 01:34:58,960
Speaker 8: out to go support the Three ways. Puck drops seven

1987
01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:00,120
Speaker 8: thirty on Saturday.

1988
01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:01,920
Speaker 2: More sweaters than old Navy.

1989
01:35:04,640 --> 01:35:05,000
Speaker 4: Bugs.

1990
01:35:07,560 --> 01:35:11,240
Speaker 8: Also trending on social media when it comes to sports,

1991
01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:15,240
Speaker 8: our thirteen year old buddy that messed up the Marty statue.

1992
01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:18,080
Speaker 8: He's not going to be seeing any games at GABP

1993
01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:21,000
Speaker 8: for quite some time. He is banned through the twenty

1994
01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:26,240
Speaker 8: twenty nine season, so he will be a age to

1995
01:35:26,439 --> 01:35:27,920
Speaker 8: vote by the time that he can.

1996
01:35:27,960 --> 01:35:31,840
Speaker 10: Bandle a partial banishment from Great American Ballpark. And I

1997
01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:33,840
Speaker 10: guess he has to pay what three thousand bucks to

1998
01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:34,479
Speaker 10: the Reds to.

1999
01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:37,479
Speaker 2: Fix that statute. Oh boy, what did he do? Mess

2000
01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:38,360
Speaker 2: up the mic Well, he.

2001
01:35:38,400 --> 01:35:40,880
Speaker 10: Tried to climb the statue. He was climbing it in

2002
01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:45,519
Speaker 10: and he grabs the microphone in the design bent dude,

2003
01:35:45,560 --> 01:35:46,479
Speaker 10: how did it fall.

2004
01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:47,400
Speaker 4: Over so easy?

2005
01:35:47,960 --> 01:35:48,559
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

2006
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:50,800
Speaker 4: Like he wasn't up there very long messing.

2007
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:52,360
Speaker 2: With it, and then they took the statue out. It's

2008
01:35:52,400 --> 01:35:52,760
Speaker 2: not there.

2009
01:35:52,840 --> 01:35:54,360
Speaker 4: So they were like, forget it, We're going to take

2010
01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:55,760
Speaker 4: the entire thing out of the wall.

2011
01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:57,160
Speaker 2: Oh I mean, look at the weather. You want to

2012
01:35:57,200 --> 01:35:58,800
Speaker 2: work that inside? You could take it off and then

2013
01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:00,600
Speaker 2: work on in the shop and fit right.

2014
01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:03,360
Speaker 4: So that'll be ready for opening day, less than thirty

2015
01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:05,080
Speaker 4: days to go. By the way, March twenty.

2016
01:36:05,560 --> 01:36:08,320
Speaker 2: Who loves this, So this whole thing more than anybody else, Marty?

2017
01:36:08,520 --> 01:36:08,920
Speaker 2: You know why?

2018
01:36:09,080 --> 01:36:10,200
Speaker 4: Because he wanted it lower.

2019
01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:15,000
Speaker 2: Nope. Why so we're going to have another tribute ceremony.

2020
01:36:15,560 --> 01:36:22,120
Speaker 2: Here we go. We're going to do the cutting, another party, Marty, Marty,

2021
01:36:22,160 --> 01:36:26,960
Speaker 2: I remember you were in the same sweater I was, yeah, seven,

2022
01:36:27,240 --> 01:36:30,080
Speaker 2: Remember at the Charleston Mall and Charleston Oh yeah.

2023
01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:33,120
Speaker 4: We still see him greeting people at Kroger.

2024
01:36:33,280 --> 01:36:33,800
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

2025
01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:36,080
Speaker 4: So why not run it back for another ceremony.

2026
01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:38,679
Speaker 2: Run it back, We're gonna get he gets another ceremony.

2027
01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:41,439
Speaker 2: He gets, you know what, Marty gets more as kissing.

2028
01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:42,280
Speaker 2: That's for the.

2029
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:45,680
Speaker 8: Holiday we'll be doing on March twenty fifth. It'll be

2030
01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:49,040
Speaker 8: Marty Brunnaman Day here in Cincinnati.

2031
01:36:48,520 --> 01:36:49,320
Speaker 2: All over again.

2032
01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:52,439
Speaker 8: Bring the whole media team out. Oll of l W

2033
01:36:52,720 --> 01:36:55,759
Speaker 8: will be there. We'll have a Pete Rose bobblehead to celebrate.

2034
01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:58,600
Speaker 8: I don't know. Ye, we can celebrate the Reds. They

2035
01:36:58,640 --> 01:37:01,960
Speaker 8: got their first win in Cactus League play. Got it

2036
01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:03,840
Speaker 8: done yesterday against the Royals.

2037
01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:06,760
Speaker 2: Five to four. I don't really celebrate this preseason. It's spring.

2038
01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:09,120
Speaker 4: But do you think that there are too many spring

2039
01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:11,800
Speaker 4: training games? Like, let's just get to it. We've were

2040
01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:13,599
Speaker 4: three in like, let's go like football.

2041
01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:13,840
Speaker 7: No.

2042
01:37:15,200 --> 01:37:16,680
Speaker 2: The problem with that, though, is a is you've seen

2043
01:37:16,720 --> 01:37:17,040
Speaker 2: this before?

2044
01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:17,200
Speaker 1: You know?

2045
01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:21,080
Speaker 2: And who was I talking to was Jeff Carr from

2046
01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:21,599
Speaker 2: Lockdown Rest.

2047
01:37:21,760 --> 01:37:21,960
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2048
01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:23,519
Speaker 2: I don't know why they need Monday offs, Like, yeah,

2049
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:25,120
Speaker 2: because you need to ease into this. We don't need

2050
01:37:25,400 --> 01:37:27,360
Speaker 2: you do. I don't know way to be injured as

2051
01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:28,000
Speaker 2: we start the season.

2052
01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:28,800
Speaker 4: I shoulnderstand.

2053
01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:29,400
Speaker 2: Make it easy.

2054
01:37:29,479 --> 01:37:31,040
Speaker 8: You work two days and you're like, look, I need

2055
01:37:31,120 --> 01:37:33,600
Speaker 8: a day. I gotta go golfing, which is exactly what

2056
01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:34,400
Speaker 8: they did on Monday.

2057
01:37:34,600 --> 01:37:36,240
Speaker 2: Like the old days where the guys would show up

2058
01:37:36,240 --> 01:37:38,720
Speaker 2: in horrible shape and they'd lose thirty pounds in the

2059
01:37:38,800 --> 01:37:41,280
Speaker 2: month to get in games, right, right, you know back then,

2060
01:37:41,360 --> 01:37:43,400
Speaker 2: did guys get injured as much? No, It's like they

2061
01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:45,680
Speaker 2: come in incredible shape and then they just press it

2062
01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:46,040
Speaker 2: too hard.

2063
01:37:46,160 --> 01:37:48,439
Speaker 8: Hey, these guys are in great shape and they've been

2064
01:37:48,479 --> 01:37:50,519
Speaker 8: taking care of themselves. I mean, we know that Ellie

2065
01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:53,080
Speaker 8: has put on like seventeen pounds of muscle. He is

2066
01:37:53,400 --> 01:37:56,120
Speaker 8: jacked up top. I mean every single photo that the

2067
01:37:56,240 --> 01:37:58,799
Speaker 8: Reds are adding you can see every sort of definition

2068
01:37:59,040 --> 01:37:59,800
Speaker 8: in his arms.

2069
01:38:00,439 --> 01:38:02,400
Speaker 4: We know that Sal Stewart has lost weight.

2070
01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:02,960
Speaker 10: I don't like that.

2071
01:38:03,560 --> 01:38:04,360
Speaker 4: You don't like that he's.

2072
01:38:04,320 --> 01:38:07,160
Speaker 2: Jack no Jealousick Sale. A guy named Sale should be.

2073
01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:10,320
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, Sale sounds like a guy that's just Sal.

2074
01:38:10,479 --> 01:38:12,040
Speaker 8: He's just chilling on the airwaves.

2075
01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:12,200
Speaker 2: Big Sally.

2076
01:38:12,240 --> 01:38:15,360
Speaker 10: He should be working here and and like, yeah, he's

2077
01:38:15,439 --> 01:38:17,760
Speaker 10: just like he's I love sales story. This is going

2078
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:20,160
Speaker 10: to be the air when Al Roker lost all the weight.

2079
01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:22,080
Speaker 10: I like fat Al, I like my weathermen fat, I

2080
01:38:22,240 --> 01:38:24,479
Speaker 10: like my I like to have a rotn guy. Wow,

2081
01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:27,360
Speaker 10: he's not ro ton a thicker guy playing first Space.

2082
01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:28,280
Speaker 10: It looks good.

2083
01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:32,200
Speaker 8: Here's the dude in I'm back in the day. There's

2084
01:38:32,200 --> 01:38:34,360
Speaker 8: a few comedians that keep losing weight. I'm like, stop

2085
01:38:34,439 --> 01:38:35,880
Speaker 8: doing that. You're funny when you're fat.

2086
01:38:36,160 --> 01:38:38,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know what about jelly Bean.

2087
01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:40,360
Speaker 4: He lost the jelly Roll.

2088
01:38:40,479 --> 01:38:42,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, jelly Bean lost the weight.

2089
01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:45,519
Speaker 8: He's lost like three hundred pounds and he's been training

2090
01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:47,679
Speaker 8: for five k's and he's not on ozembic.

2091
01:38:47,720 --> 01:38:49,120
Speaker 4: He says he's doing it all the right way.

2092
01:38:49,200 --> 01:38:51,400
Speaker 10: I mean, it's insane what he's but his body, all

2093
01:38:51,439 --> 01:38:53,000
Speaker 10: that weight and now the neck tattoos.

2094
01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:55,479
Speaker 2: He looks like a scream mask, like a Skins milking.

2095
01:38:55,600 --> 01:38:57,120
Speaker 2: I can't even read that. What is It's like one

2096
01:38:57,160 --> 01:38:59,479
Speaker 2: of those Google things where they you have to get

2097
01:38:59,479 --> 01:39:00,160
Speaker 2: the pass word with.

2098
01:39:01,920 --> 01:39:05,000
Speaker 4: It's it's kind of messy up top the capture thing.

2099
01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:07,439
Speaker 8: Yeah, so Sal Stewart, I mean, I think this will

2100
01:39:07,479 --> 01:39:10,760
Speaker 8: be the year of Sal and Matteth Plane. He's ready

2101
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:13,840
Speaker 8: for a big comeback year, somebody who's looking to get

2102
01:39:13,880 --> 01:39:16,400
Speaker 8: back into it. I was really excited to see this

2103
01:39:16,479 --> 01:39:20,360
Speaker 8: guy over the weekend. TJ Antone, I am a TJ gal.

2104
01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:23,200
Speaker 8: I've always loved this guy. He has been through it

2105
01:39:23,439 --> 01:39:27,240
Speaker 8: with three Tommy John surgery. So finally pitched in a

2106
01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:31,320
Speaker 8: reds Uni on Sunday for one inning and he said, look,

2107
01:39:31,400 --> 01:39:33,679
Speaker 8: I feel like I'm right back at home. He eased

2108
01:39:33,760 --> 01:39:36,360
Speaker 8: right back into it. Tito talked to media after and

2109
01:39:36,439 --> 01:39:39,040
Speaker 8: he goes Yeah, he looked great up there. So hopefully

2110
01:39:39,080 --> 01:39:41,880
Speaker 8: we'll see TJ an time a lot more of this season.

2111
01:39:43,160 --> 01:39:44,920
Speaker 8: Something there is always something. Yeah.

2112
01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:47,639
Speaker 2: So he's like baseball's version of Lindsay Vaughn at this point.

2113
01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:48,599
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

2114
01:39:48,640 --> 01:39:50,479
Speaker 8: And if she wouldn't have gotten that surgery, they would

2115
01:39:50,479 --> 01:39:52,360
Speaker 8: have cut they had to cut her leg off if

2116
01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:55,040
Speaker 8: she wouldn't have so she was gonna have to amputate

2117
01:39:55,080 --> 01:39:59,880
Speaker 8: the leg and the way peg get right back out there.

2118
01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:03,200
Speaker 8: Forty five years old. Yeah, and poor thing, her dog

2119
01:40:03,400 --> 01:40:05,400
Speaker 8: just died. I mean, it doesn't get worse than that.

2120
01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:08,400
Speaker 8: So but yeah, TJ Antone says he has a book

2121
01:40:08,520 --> 01:40:11,799
Speaker 8: out if you want to do some reading this upcoming

2122
01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:13,320
Speaker 8: spring or summer, if you're outside.

2123
01:40:13,320 --> 01:40:15,959
Speaker 4: It's a book called The Tommy John Protocol.

2124
01:40:16,040 --> 01:40:19,760
Speaker 8: I actually talked to TJ about this at Redsfest and

2125
01:40:19,840 --> 01:40:22,800
Speaker 8: it's just basically his experience of like how he's been

2126
01:40:22,840 --> 01:40:26,120
Speaker 8: handling the game of baseball mentally, because you know, this

2127
01:40:26,280 --> 01:40:29,000
Speaker 8: is taking a mental toll on this guy not being

2128
01:40:29,080 --> 01:40:32,800
Speaker 8: able to perform on that mound. So the Tommy John

2129
01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:34,960
Speaker 8: Protocol is out, should be a good read.

2130
01:40:35,120 --> 01:40:36,320
Speaker 4: So yeah.

2131
01:40:36,760 --> 01:40:41,200
Speaker 8: Also trending on social media, the NFL Scouting Combine is

2132
01:40:41,280 --> 01:40:45,920
Speaker 8: happening in Indie. Your favorites, Zach Taylor and Duke tobinheld

2133
01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:47,040
Speaker 8: pressers yesterday.

2134
01:40:48,200 --> 01:40:50,280
Speaker 4: They were very exciting as you can imagine.

2135
01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:55,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking and of course you know Austin and

2136
01:40:55,160 --> 01:40:56,959
Speaker 2: Tony and Moe live at the Combine.

2137
01:40:58,640 --> 01:41:01,280
Speaker 8: Nowhere near the Combine, they can you guys actually stay

2138
01:41:01,320 --> 01:41:06,160
Speaker 8: away as the home of the Cincinnati Bengals. We don't

2139
01:41:06,200 --> 01:41:08,719
Speaker 8: need you here. Yeah, that's amazing that those guys.

2140
01:41:09,080 --> 01:41:10,439
Speaker 2: Go to the combos. He was like, Oh, I like

2141
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Speaker 2: the pizza flavor.

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Speaker 4: Give me the cheese. I do like I do like

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01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:14,960
Speaker 4: the buffalo and blue cheese.

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Speaker 2: I can get down with Snyders pretzel pieces like my

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01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:19,400
Speaker 2: two favorite.

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01:41:19,120 --> 01:41:20,600
Speaker 4: Like road Buffalo Snyders.

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01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:23,360
Speaker 7: I can.

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01:41:23,479 --> 01:41:25,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, that sounds good right now. I can get down

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Speaker 4: with some of those on.

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01:41:27,200 --> 01:41:30,320
Speaker 2: Your way, because that will help you clean your nose out.

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01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:32,439
Speaker 8: See, I need some of that frankiees I've got. Well,

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01:41:32,439 --> 01:41:34,280
Speaker 8: there's a bottle of something in here, a little bit

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Speaker 8: of guy.

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01:41:34,520 --> 01:41:39,920
Speaker 2: I'm a story Cincinnati. Okay, just met the lady who

2155
01:41:40,120 --> 01:41:40,680
Speaker 2: came up with that.

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01:41:42,280 --> 01:41:42,560
Speaker 8: I need that.

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01:41:44,360 --> 01:41:46,439
Speaker 4: I should truly do so.

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01:41:46,640 --> 01:41:48,800
Speaker 8: Duke was talking about, you know, the Bengals in the

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01:41:48,880 --> 01:41:51,680
Speaker 8: off season, and he says, we do have all of

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01:41:51,800 --> 01:41:55,360
Speaker 8: the resources to attack the off season in a big way.

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Speaker 2: No, no, you know, thanks.

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01:42:01,400 --> 01:42:03,160
Speaker 4: And when it comes to Joe Burrow and the.

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01:42:03,200 --> 01:42:05,719
Speaker 8: Conversations that he's had with him in the off season,

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01:42:05,920 --> 01:42:07,960
Speaker 8: he's like, yeah, we've talked, but haven't had a chance

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Speaker 8: to sit down and do a full debrief.

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Speaker 2: How long you wait before doing whatever that? I like,

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01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:16,400
Speaker 2: I would think you the first week after the season's over, Like, hey,

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Speaker 2: take a couple of days, clean your locker. Right, let's

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01:42:19,040 --> 01:42:19,760
Speaker 2: let's have a sit down.

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Speaker 8: But if you've been following Joe Burrow on social media

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Speaker 8: or see that he's been trending, he has been everywhere

2172
01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:27,920
Speaker 8: but Cincinnati, so probably hard to get a hold of him. Yeah,

2173
01:42:28,920 --> 01:42:31,479
Speaker 8: he's been doing some fabulous travels in the off season.

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Speaker 8: And I know that we love Dalton Reisner. He's obviously

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01:42:34,520 --> 01:42:38,120
Speaker 8: a big fan favorite here in Cincinnati. So Duke was

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01:42:38,240 --> 01:42:40,439
Speaker 8: asked about Dalton kind of like what that looks like

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01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:42,479
Speaker 8: and if they're gonna be bringing him back. He goes, look,

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01:42:42,520 --> 01:42:45,680
Speaker 8: he's a great fit, and he said they're they've been

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Speaker 8: talking to him and they're gonna try to see if

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Speaker 8: they can get something done.

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01:42:48,520 --> 01:42:51,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, bring bring Dalton back.

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Speaker 2: You need something.

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Speaker 4: So there you go.

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01:42:53,400 --> 01:42:56,000
Speaker 8: And then as Zach Taylor, they talked to him and

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01:42:56,040 --> 01:42:58,240
Speaker 8: they said, uh, yeah, He's like, it feels weird. It's

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01:42:58,280 --> 01:43:00,800
Speaker 8: a little strange to be the own coach in the

2187
01:43:00,880 --> 01:43:02,840
Speaker 8: AFC North that didn't get cut.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure he does feel strange.

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01:43:06,680 --> 01:43:10,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's got all the coaches in the a

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01:43:10,360 --> 01:43:12,080
Speaker 2: f C North. I thought for sure i'd be the

2191
01:43:12,120 --> 01:43:14,800
Speaker 2: guy getting fired after the season, but I'm the only

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01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:17,599
Speaker 2: one left over here.

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Speaker 8: And if you remember that very lengthy Duke Tobin presser

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Speaker 8: that we had after the regular season, I mean, he's

2195
01:43:25,000 --> 01:43:27,080
Speaker 8: he had nothing but good things to say about Zach Taylor.

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01:43:27,160 --> 01:43:29,320
Speaker 8: He's like, I love the coaching stuff. I'm happy with

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01:43:29,680 --> 01:43:32,880
Speaker 8: Zach and he's great. So anyways, I don't think we're

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01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:35,479
Speaker 8: gonna have Joe Flacco back, but they are in the

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Speaker 8: hunt for a rookie.

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01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:39,439
Speaker 2: She is the critically ill Sarah Lee.

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Speaker 4: On the show that's trying to get through today.

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Speaker 2: It's the report. Oh my god, it just came. Oh

2203
01:43:47,000 --> 01:43:48,120
Speaker 2: my god, it was like a volcano.

2204
01:43:48,240 --> 01:43:50,640
Speaker 4: Good luck with this, Mic Soud, don't put lava over here.

2205
01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:52,559
Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on. It's like this green

2206
01:43:52,960 --> 01:43:55,439
Speaker 2: just grew all over that microphone.

2207
01:43:55,479 --> 01:43:58,240
Speaker 4: All right, kind of sexy stuff here in the studio today.

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01:43:59,360 --> 01:44:01,240
Speaker 4: So anyway, go Reds. They're back at it today.

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Speaker 8: I believe they're on these airwaves right at three h

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01:44:04,160 --> 01:44:07,120
Speaker 8: five pitch against the White Sox about it, no doubt,

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01:44:07,160 --> 01:44:08,639
Speaker 8: Baby Dolo on the mountin today.

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01:44:08,439 --> 01:44:10,439
Speaker 2: Share a release back at one of two seven EBN

2213
01:44:10,479 --> 01:44:12,880
Speaker 2: tomorrow out of guilt for no other reason, uh huh,

2214
01:44:13,479 --> 01:44:16,439
Speaker 2: grinded it out as the game. Baby. I believe Willie

2215
01:44:16,520 --> 01:44:18,559
Speaker 2: or Dan Carroll or Ken Bruce, somebody's coming.

2216
01:44:18,439 --> 01:44:20,920
Speaker 4: On next Mike or maybe and I they want us

2217
01:44:20,960 --> 01:44:21,439
Speaker 4: to sail down.

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01:44:22,760 --> 01:44:25,880
Speaker 2: Oh it is Willy. Willy's back to oh because last

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01:44:25,960 --> 01:44:27,240
Speaker 2: night I gotta talk to the America.

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01:44:27,840 --> 01:44:29,240
Speaker 4: That's why I gotta talk.

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01:44:29,120 --> 01:44:31,040
Speaker 2: To the American. That's the greatest speech ever.

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Speaker 4: Did you watch all one hour and forty seven minutes?

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Speaker 1: Sleep?

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01:44:34,240 --> 01:44:36,840
Speaker 2: I really I passed out. I'm good over the Red

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Speaker 2: seven hundred Wtvety, Cincinnati,