1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:01,000 Speaker 1: To night. 2 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 2: Michael Brown joins me here, the former FEMA director of 3 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 2: talk show host Michael Brown. 4 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 3: Brownie, no, Brownie, You're doing a heck of a job 5 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 3: the Weekend with Michael Brown broadcasting Life from Denver, Colorado. 6 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 3: You've tuned into the Weekend with Michael Brown. Glad to 7 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 3: have you with me. If you want to tell me anything, 8 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 3: ask me anything. The text line is always open, regardless 9 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 3: whether you're listening live later on the podcast. The text 10 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 3: line numbers three three one zero three three three one 11 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 3: zero three, keyword Mike or Michael, and then do me 12 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 3: a favor. Get off your butts and go follow me 13 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 3: on social media platforms x, Facebook, Instagram. They're all the 14 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 3: same at Michael D. Brown, at Michael D. Brown, So 15 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 3: get busy and go do that. Alexandria cassi at Cortez 16 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 3: went to the Munique Security Conference, as did Gavin Newsom, 17 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 3: and they all go and what do they do? They 18 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 3: go on to foreign soil. But you know, there's no 19 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 3: law against this, but there's just kind of an unwritten 20 00:00:54,120 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 3: rule that our politics stays here on American soil. But no, 21 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 3: AOC goes over and complains about Trump, and so does 22 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 3: Gavin Newsom. I find both of their speeches absolutely sad 23 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 3: and hilarious at the same time. Gavin Newsom talks about 24 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 3: what a failure Donald Trump is and I'm thinking, wait 25 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 3: a minute, if we looked at California lately, you know, 26 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 3: the Sunshine State sitting over there with talking about a 27 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 3: regulatory burden, Let's ask about just the cost of living 28 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 3: in California. How's specific Palisades coming along. How's that high 29 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 3: speed rail doing? You know, I find it hilarious. Gavin 30 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 3: Newsom went on television the other day and yeah, I 31 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 3: ask you, when you think of high speed rail, what 32 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 3: do you think of now, if you've ever been to Japan, 33 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 3: you think of the Shinkizen, because I mean, those trains 34 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 3: are gorgeous and they travel at extremely high speeds. They're amazing, 35 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 3: they're clean, everything is first class. It's just I mean, 36 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 3: it's on time and they're built in record time. And 37 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 3: China's I mean, in Japan's not a communist country like China. Oh, 38 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 3: China has high speed rail too, but they're built with 39 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 3: communist labor. Gavin Newsom talks about how they're making great 40 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 3: progress on a project that started back in the sixties. 41 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 3: I think voters may have voted on it sometime in 42 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 3: the early nineties, and they've got what fifty miles of 43 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 3: track built. I don't even know if it's that much. 44 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 3: And then when he's espousing how great this light rail 45 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 3: project is, he's giving his little press conference in front 46 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 3: of a bunch of freight train cars. Yeah, nobody called 47 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 3: him out on it. Aogulls. Oh, by the way, and 48 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 3: the wealth tax in California, which of course is causing 49 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 3: billionaires to flee the state. Where's he long Muscliffe, Where's 50 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 3: Tesla headquarters, Where's SpaceX headquarters? Yeah, not California anymore. But 51 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 3: they go over, AOC goes over and they all bad 52 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 3: mouth Trump. When Rubio got on his flight to go 53 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 3: to the Munich conference on Thursday night, he really did 54 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 3: try to reassure your appear Europeans that they weren't going 55 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 3: to be berated by the United States. We'll be good, 56 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 3: he said, And I think he kept his word. When 57 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 3: he addressed the Munich Security Security Conference yesterday morning, he 58 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 3: kicked off his speech by HARKing back to nineteen sixty three. 59 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 3: That's the first year that Munich held this conference. And 60 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 3: I thought this line was great. The line between communism 61 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 3: and freedom ran through the very heart of Germany. Nineteen 62 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 3: sixty three. Soviet communism was on the march, and thousands 63 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 3: of years of Western civilization hung in the balance. Triumphing 64 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 3: over communism had allowed the West to be seduced by 65 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 3: the quote dangerous delusion that we had entered the end 66 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 3: of history. And Rubio, I think very poignantly pointed out 67 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 3: that the leader's Western civilization had made mistakes allowing free 68 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 3: trade to flourish globally because they had appeased a climate 69 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 3: cult and then they had invested in massive welfare states, 70 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 3: all at the expense of national defense. And mass migration 71 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 3: featured heavily in his speech. The West, he said, had 72 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 3: opened its doors to unprecedented waves of mass migration that 73 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 3: threatens the cohesion of our societies, the continuity of our culture, 74 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 3: and the future of our people. And that was a 75 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 3: theme that Rubio returned to throughout the entire address. He 76 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 3: said that the term rules based global ordered, which gets 77 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 3: bandied about during these conferences, was overused. I don't think 78 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 3: it's an understatement to say that everything at the Unique 79 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 3: Security Conference was building up to the United States Secretary 80 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 3: of State's speech everyone had spoken in the last couple 81 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 3: of days. The key driver of this nervous anticipation was 82 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 3: the speech that Rubio's colleague, Vice President's Vans, gave it 83 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 3: last year's summon, when he declared that the biggest threat 84 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 3: to Europe was not Rush or China, but from within. 85 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 3: I didn't have a problem with that speech. It was 86 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 3: in your face, it was truthful, and it was hard 87 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 3: for the Europeans to deal with. So Vance used his 88 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 3: adversarial speech, which it was to denounce mistakes on migration, 89 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 3: the economy, defense and climate. Rubio, playing the good cop, 90 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 3: took a more communal approach. He said that we made 91 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 3: these mistakes together, and now together we owe it to 92 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 3: our people to face those facts and to move forward. 93 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 3: This was classic good cop bag top. He jumped through 94 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 3: phases of American histories in the speech, paying tribute to 95 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 3: our European heritage, from the first colonies founded by the 96 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 3: English settlers to the scott Irish prisoners or pioneers, prisoners 97 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 3: pioneers of the American frontier. He said, our most iconic 98 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 3: city was named New Amsterdam before it was named New York. 99 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 3: He repeatedly referenced to American Europe's shared Christian culture. So 100 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 3: I think this was a speech designed to hammer home 101 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 3: the message that the United States and Europe are really 102 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 3: two parts, two distinct parts, of the same civilization, Western civilization. 103 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 3: And then he tackled the elephant in the room. He 104 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 3: referred to Vance's speech last year and the wrecking ball 105 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 3: outbursts of Trump over the past year. This is why 106 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 3: we Americans may sometimes come off as a little direct 107 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 3: and probably a little urgent in our council. But he said, 108 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 3: that's because we care deeply. Then he offered an olive 109 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 3: branch of sorts to the European nations who took umbrage 110 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 3: last month when Trump said that Allied nations stayed a 111 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 3: little back, a little off the front lines while fighting 112 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 3: in Afghanistan along the US. I do think that was 113 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 3: probably a little off, but it's one of those things 114 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 3: that Trump sometimes says that you can't take back. But 115 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 3: Rubio said, we have bled and died side by side 116 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 3: on battlefields from Capellong to Kandahar. That probably went down 117 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 3: well with NATO. But while Rubio's delivery may have been softer, 118 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 3: and while it may have been more diplomatic, his message 119 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 3: is really exactly the same as JD. Vance's because Rubio said, 120 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 3: we are prepared, if necessary, to do this alone, but 121 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 3: it is our preference and our hope to this to 122 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 3: do this together with you, our friends here in Europe. 123 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 3: So being quote polite caretaker of civilizations managed decline is 124 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 3: something that America has no interest in being. At least 125 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 3: he recognized that there was the decline and that we 126 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 3: are the caretakers, and then we ought to do something 127 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 3: about it. With his speech, he walked a real tightrope 128 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 3: between maintaining civility with the already kind of mistrustful Europeans 129 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 3: and with Trump listening in back in Washington, and he 130 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 3: delivered key messages. What were they? You need to hear them. 131 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 3: I'll be right back. Welcome back to the Weekend with 132 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 3: Michael Brown. So glad to have you with joining the 133 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 3: program today. Do me a favor and subscribe to the 134 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 3: podcast whatever podcast app you use, search for the Situation 135 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 3: with Michael Brown. Once you find that podcast, hit that 136 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 3: subscribe button, leave a five star review that helps us 137 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 3: with the algorithm, and then that will automatically download for 138 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 3: you all five days of the weekday program that I do, 139 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 3: plus the weekend program. See you get all six days 140 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 3: of Michael Brown, which is I know, not quite enough, 141 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 3: but you know, I'd like to take at least one 142 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 3: day off. So we're talking about Marco Rubio and this 143 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 3: speech and the Unique Security Conference. Why is this important? 144 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 3: Because regardless of whether we like the elitist or not, 145 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 3: whether we think that Europe has shot itself in the 146 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 3: foot in terms of mass migration, which I believe that 147 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 3: it has, or in terms of their climate policies, they're 148 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 3: starting to roll back some of those. Nonetheless, Europe needs us, 149 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 3: and we need Europe, and if if we don't maintain 150 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 3: some semblance of relationships with them, the demise of Europe 151 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 3: is one of the cornerstones of Western civilization. And we 152 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 3: can't always hide in a globalized universe now where the 153 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 3: world is where you can be anywhere in the world 154 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 3: in ours as opposed to days or weeks, where communications 155 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 3: are instantaneous, where commerce is globalized, where everything whatever happens 156 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 3: somewhere else in the world inevitably affects us. And Trump's 157 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 3: trying to reorder all of that and make certain that 158 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 3: all of our allies share in the burden of keeping 159 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 3: the march of authoritarianism, Marxism, communism, socialism at bay, which 160 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 3: is hard to do when most of Europe really has 161 00:11:54,640 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 3: turned into a socialist crapple continent. So Rubio's there to 162 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 3: deliver a speech to remind them that for US Americans, 163 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 3: our home may be in the Western Hemisphere, but we 164 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 3: will always be a child of Europe. Now, that might 165 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 3: have been intended to create affinity with some European politicians 166 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 3: in the audience, but whether they will swallow, albeit sweeter, 167 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 3: a dose of Maga medicine is another question Altogether. He 168 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 3: did get a standing ovation at the end of the speech, 169 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 3: and he did admit or tell them directly that Europe 170 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 3: is destroying their true Christian identity and their civilization, two 171 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 3: separate things intertwined but separate with mass migration. He was 172 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 3: very clear about that. And I'm not getting the audio. 173 00:12:55,120 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 3: Let's see what we can't get the audio, Well, you 174 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 3: can't get the audio play He says, we cannot continue 175 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 3: to allow those who blatantly and openly threaten our citizens 176 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 3: and endangered global stability to shield themselves behind abstractions of 177 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 3: international law which they themselves routinely violate. They do routinely 178 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 3: violate so while Gavin Newsom and AOC and a prate 179 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 3: of other pissants of the seditious Democrat Party actually slam 180 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 3: and deman America at the conference, Rubio delivered a twenty 181 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 3: one minute speech that left the European crowd standing and applauding. 182 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 3: Now emphasizing that this country and the Trump administration want 183 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 3: to maintain strong alliances and trading relations with Europe, he 184 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 3: pointedly told the attendees that that can only happen if 185 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 3: Europeans abandon their mass migration mania and if they move 186 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 3: to protect and preserve the continent's native culture. Here's just 187 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 3: a clip I'd like to post, and I'd like to 188 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 3: play the entire speech, but here's the gist which is 189 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 3: worth hearing. 190 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:20,119 Speaker 2: For the West had been expanded, its missionaries, its pilgrims, 191 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 2: it's soldiers, it's explorers, pouring out from its shores to 192 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 2: cross oceans, settle new continents, build vast empires extending out 193 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 2: across the globe. But in nineteen forty five, for the 194 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 2: first time since the age of Columbus, it was contracting. 195 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 2: Europe was in ruins, half of it lived behind an 196 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 2: iron curtain, and the rest looked like it would soon follow. 197 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 2: The great Western empires had entered into terminal decline, accelerated 198 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 2: by godless communist revolutions and by anti colonial uprisings that 199 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 2: would transform the world and drape the red hammer and 200 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 2: sickle across bath swaths of the. 201 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: Map in the years to come. 202 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 2: Against that backdrop, then, as now, many came to believe 203 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 2: that the West's age of dominance had come to an end, 204 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 2: and that our future was destined to be a faint 205 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 2: and feeble echo of our past. 206 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: But together our predecessors. 207 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 2: Recognized that decline was a choice, and it was a 208 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 2: choice they refused to make. 209 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: This is what we did. 210 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 2: Together once before, and this is what President Trump and 211 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 2: the United States. 212 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: Want to do again now, together with you. 213 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 2: And this is why we do not want our allies 214 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 2: to be weak, because that makes us weaker. We want 215 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 2: allies who can defend themselves so that no adversary will 216 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 2: ever be tempted. 217 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: To test our collective strength. 218 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 2: This is why we do not want our allies to 219 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 2: be shackled by guilt and shame. We want allies who 220 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 2: are proud of their culture and of their hair, who 221 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 2: understand that we are heirs to the same great and 222 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 2: noble civilization and who together with us, are willing and 223 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 2: able to defend it. And this is why we do 224 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 2: not want allies to rationalize the broken status quo. Rather 225 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 2: than a reckon Willardes is what is necessary to fix it. 226 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 2: For we in America have no interests in being polite 227 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 2: and orderly caretakers of the West's managed decline. We do 228 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:33,119 Speaker 2: not seek to separate, but to revitalize an old friendship 229 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 2: and renew the greatest civilization in human history. What we 230 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: want is a reinvigorated alliance that recognizes that what has 231 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 2: ailed our societies is not just a set of bad policies, 232 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 2: but a malaise. 233 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: Of hopelessness and complacency. 234 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 2: An alliance is what The alliance that we want is 235 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 2: one that is not paralyzed into an action by fear, 236 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 2: fear of climate change, fear of war, fear of technology. Instead, 237 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 2: we want an alliance that boldly races into the future, 238 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 2: and the only fear we have is the fear of 239 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 2: the shame of not leaving our nations prouder, stronger, and 240 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 2: wealthier for our children. 241 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: An alliance ready. 242 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 2: To defend our people, to safeguard our interests, and to 243 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 2: preserve the freedom of action that allows us to shape 244 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 2: our own destiny, not one that exists to operate a 245 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 2: global welfare state and atone for the purported sins of 246 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 2: past generations. An alliance that does not allow its power 247 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 2: to be outsourced, constrained, or subordinated to systems beyond its control, 248 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 2: one that does not depend on others for the critical 249 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 2: necessities of its national life, and one that does not 250 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 2: maintain the polite pretense that our way of life is 251 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 2: just one among many. 252 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 3: That our way of life is not just one of 253 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 3: many among many, but is the best, is the exceptional 254 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 3: way of life. Kudos to the secretary telling it like 255 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 3: it is. I'll be right back. 256 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: To night. 257 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 3: Michael Brown joins me here, the former FEMA director of talk. 258 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: Show host Michael Brown. Brownie, no, Brownie, You're doing a 259 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: heck of a job The Weekend with Michael Brown. 260 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Weekend with Michael Brown. Glad to 261 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 3: have you with me. I appreciate you tuning in. Text line, 262 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 3: of course has always opened three three one zero three, 263 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 3: Tell me anything, Ask me anything. Keyword is Mike or Michael. 264 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 3: Go follow me on x, Facebook, Instagram, They're all at 265 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 3: Michael D. Brown at Michael D. Brown, loving or hating. 266 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 3: I think. I think that Elon Musk truly is a visionary. 267 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 3: And he's a visionary because he has a habit of 268 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:53,239 Speaker 3: taking an issue, a business, an industry, whatever it is, 269 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 3: and he reframes that by shifting the underlying question and 270 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 3: challenging the premises. For example, with rockets, he asks simply, 271 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 3: why do launch costs so much? And do they have 272 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 3: to remain high? He asked about electric vehicles whether performance 273 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 3: and sustainability have to be traded off? Now this is 274 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 3: a fascinating time to be alive. He appears to be 275 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:30,479 Speaker 3: asking something even more ambitious, whether Earth orbits should be 276 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 3: treated not merely as a layer of communications, or even 277 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 3: as a staging ground for Mars, but instead should our 278 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 3: orbit be treated as the next extension of global computing infrastructure. 279 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 3: Go back to November second last year. On x he 280 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 3: floated the idea of deploying about one hundred gigawatts per 281 00:19:56,320 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 3: year of orbital power or computing capability within the next 282 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 3: four to five years, with a longer horizon view of 283 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 3: one hundred tarawatts per year, tied to lunar moon manufacturing 284 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 3: and mass drivers. Now, I don't know if you take 285 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 3: it seriously, that's not some sort of side project. That's 286 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 3: a pivot. That's a straightforward pivot, which seems contradictory. But 287 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 3: it's like, boom, we're going we keep thinking this way, 288 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 3: what if we thought this way? And his thesis is 289 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 3: pretty straightforward. All the data centers that everybody's all concerned 290 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 3: about now, with water, power consumption, the amount of land 291 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 3: it takes, and everything else. If data centers are limited 292 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 3: by land, power, cooling, and politics, orbit is limited by 293 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 3: power cooling and launch masks. The first set of constraints 294 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 3: is increasingly binding the power of the cooling, the launch mass, 295 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 3: land power cooling, and of course the politics. But the 296 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 3: second set is easily tractable. If Starship lowered the cost 297 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 3: of delivery kilogram to orbit, and the silicon becomes more 298 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 3: efficient per want and per kilogram, the space ceases to 299 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 3: be this exotic niche and becomes a competitive computing layer. 300 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 3: Now you might object that the orbit is hostile. There's vacuum, radiation, 301 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 3: eclipse cycles, true, but terrestrial computing is hardly frictionless itself. 302 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 3: In both this country and in Europe, new hyper scale 303 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 3: data centers face zoning fights, water use, restrictions, grid interconnection cueues, 304 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 3: how quickly can we get connected to the grid, and 305 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 3: of course political opposition. So artificial intelligence clusters now draw 306 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 3: hundreds of megawatts, sometimes more than small cities do. Grid congestion, 307 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 3: all the permitting delays, all those regulatory birds we talked 308 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 3: about in the last hour add years to development. So 309 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 3: in that frame of reference, orbit is no longer hostile. 310 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 3: It's just different. So the governing constraint for orbital computing 311 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 3: can be put pretty simply. Every platform must be must 312 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 3: satisfy three couple variables. Power generation, the rejection of heat 313 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 3: that that creates, and computing density. You push one corner 314 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 3: without the others, and of course your progress begins to stall. 315 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 3: A process or a computer processor can't run without power, 316 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 3: and power can't be used if the waste heat can't 317 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 3: be radiated away. Just look at the MacBook Pro in 318 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 3: front of me. What's in there? Well, the battery is 319 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 3: generating as I use it today, it's generating heat, and 320 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 3: they're a little, you know, small fans in there. And 321 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 3: I've got you know, little slots on the back side 322 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 3: everywhere around the computer to dissipate that heat so it 323 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 3: doesn't destroy all the enters of the computer, so power 324 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 3: can't be used if the weight. Heat can't be radiated 325 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 3: off this MacBook pro mass devoted to solar arrays and 326 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 3: radiators cannot simultaneously be devoted to chips. This triangle is 327 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 3: not some sort of rhetorical flourish. It is the actual 328 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 3: design space in which Musk wants to operate. Think about 329 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 3: an analogy. Imagine a sculpture holding a block of marble. 330 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 3: If the sculptor carves too deeply in one place that marble, 331 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 3: that structure is going to collapse. So too with Orbitlook compute. 332 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 3: If one increases compute per kilogram but fails to increase 333 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 3: solar specific power, those chips are gonna starve. But if 334 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 3: one increases the solar area but fails to lighten radiators, 335 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 3: heat will then accumulate. It throttles the performance the systems, 336 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 3: always demanding to be a balance. I find all that 337 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 3: fascinating because modeling suggests that today like rigid solar arrays 338 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 3: at a roughly zero point eight kilowatts per kilogram would 339 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 3: require on the order of twelve hundred starship launches per 340 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 3: year to add one hundred gigawatts per year of usable 341 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 3: orbital computing. To me, that sounds enormous, and I think 342 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 3: it is enormous, But even that figure should be contextualized. 343 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 3: SpaceX itself already is aiming for an almost like a cadus, 344 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 3: almost like an airline, And if star Ship were ever 345 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 3: to become fully reusable and then can fly multiple times 346 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 3: per week per vehicle, then the math shifts from fantasy 347 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 3: to operations. I think even more interesting is what happens 348 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 3: when the subsystems improve altogether. Flexible or thin film solar 349 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 3: pushing toward one point seven kilowatts per kilogram, combined with 350 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 3: better radiators, could reduce the annual launch burden to what 351 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,959 Speaker 3: five hundred and fifty or six hundred flights Frontier designs, 352 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 3: ultra light PV near two point three kilowats per kilogram, 353 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 3: high temperature radiators near two point two kilowats per kilogram, 354 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 3: and lower structural overhead, you can then approach three hundred 355 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 3: and fifty to four hundred launches per year for the 356 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 3: exact same one hundred gigawatt increment. The lesson is not 357 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 3: any one number is sacred. The lesson is that mass 358 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 3: efficiency compound interest rates interests compounds mass efficiency compounds, So 359 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 3: why do the chips matter the most? Because compute per 360 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 3: kilogram is what's called a swing factor. If you double 361 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 3: sustain compute efficiency per kilogram, then the required launch mass 362 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 3: probably roughly has provided that the power in the thermal 363 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 3: can keep pace. Historically, the performance of a GPU GPU 364 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 3: performance per what has improved around a quarter twenty five 365 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 3: percent per year. Musk's target would require something steeper, perhaps 366 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 3: about fifty percent in effecting compute density. That's pretty ambitious, 367 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 3: but it is also precisely why vertical integration into TESLA 368 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 3: designed AI silicon is strategically coherent in his brain. General 369 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 3: purpose GPUs optimize for flexibility, but a purpose built or 370 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 3: little accelerator could optimize for sustained throughput under tight power 371 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 3: and radiative cooling constraints. Now I wondered whether cooling in 372 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 3: vacuum is the showstopper. I'm not sure that it is. 373 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 3: In vacuum, there's no convection, the heat must be radiated. 374 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 3: Radiated power scales with area, and the fourth power of 375 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 3: temperature raise operating temperature. Modestly required area falls significantly so 376 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 3: in the starlink class, scaling solar area tends to dominate 377 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 3: total footprint as the power rises. Radiator mass uncertainty is 378 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 3: driven less by physics than by construction class kilogram per 379 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 3: square meter materials deployment mechanics. The question is not can 380 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 3: it be cooled? The question is at what mass and 381 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 3: what cost? And an orbit choice adds another layer. On Earth, 382 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 3: a solar panel produces intermittently. Why well, because we know 383 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 3: we got night, we got cloud, we've got seasons, we've 384 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 3: got rainstorms, snowstorms. But in certain orbits, sunlight is nearly continuous. 385 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 3: Low Earth orbit standard sun synchronous orbits could deliver about 386 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 3: six times Earth's average solar yield, because what they avoid 387 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 3: the atmosphere, and they avoid most, if not all, night time. 388 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 3: Medium Earth orbit, higher circular regimes probably seven eight times sunlight. 389 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 3: But then you have a radiation tax from the van 390 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 3: Allen Belts. Shielding adds masts, degradation accelerates. Thus orbit is 391 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 3: not a binary choice, but a trade space. Low orbit 392 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 3: offers latency and easier servicing, but less continuous sun. There's 393 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 3: also constraint that few discuss, which is orbit or real estate. 394 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 3: Dawn to dusk sso is energetically attractive, but geometrically narrow. 395 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 3: You could saturate that corridor with large power platforms, multi 396 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 3: terrawatt infrastructure, if it ever does materialize, must migrate outward 397 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 3: to higher regimes where spatial capacity is effectively unconstrained. That 398 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 3: outward migration pairs naturally with long term lunar manufacturing thesis. 399 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 3: At least that's what I've discerned from reading and studying 400 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 3: what he's been saying on X about moving this stuff 401 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 3: into Earth's orbit and doing the manufacturing on the moon. Now, 402 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 3: if he's able to take SpaceX and move that into 403 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 3: an airline model where you've got regularly scheduled takeoffs and returns, 404 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 3: you could start moving all sorts of materials back and 405 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 3: forth and start building. Now, maybe the Moon is second 406 00:29:54,240 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 3: tier advancement, but Earth's orbit might be the first tier advancement. 407 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 3: And once you start doing that, it seems that well, 408 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 3: while while the economics, at least to me remain uncertain, 409 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 3: the direction is clear. Can he do it? I don't 410 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 3: know which do? I want to watch him try absolutely, 411 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 3: because then literally sky is no limit. I'll be right back. Hey, 412 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 3: welcome back to the Weekend with Michael Brown. As usually, 413 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 3: I want I would take just a moment to thank 414 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 3: everybody for tuning in. I appreciate you taking a portion 415 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 3: of your weekend and listening to the program, whether you're 416 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 3: listening live, delayed, or on the podcast. Be sure and 417 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 3: tell all your friends about it, but I want you 418 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 3: to know how much I appreciate all of you listening, 419 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 3: all the affiliates out there for carrying the program. Thanks. 420 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 3: I was curious what the reaction would be to that 421 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 3: last segment. It took me forever to put that stupid 422 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 3: thing together. The reason I did is because I'm fascinated 423 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 3: by the possibility. I don't fully understand or grasp all 424 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 3: of the possibilities. I just know that in my lifetime 425 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,719 Speaker 3: here is an Einstein like figure who is willing to 426 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 3: take these crazy ass ideas and try to put them 427 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 3: into practical terms. Kuba number thirty six ninety six rote 428 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 3: Has anybody thought about what happens when we have the 429 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 3: Earth completely surrounded in different layers of satellites that can 430 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 3: no longer be penetrated by rockets to Mars. I'm sure 431 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 3: they're all thinking about that. My response was, but maybe 432 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 3: Mars becomes the secondary objective because, based on current technology, 433 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 3: it takes years to get to Mars, whereas we can 434 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 3: be in or to the Moon in days. Not I 435 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 3: mean obviously dissimilar atmospheres, but closer. And if you can 436 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 3: array the satellites and the AI data centers and everything else, 437 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,719 Speaker 3: and they're all synchronous and you know where they are, 438 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 3: it's like a It's like any other sort of flight 439 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 3: pattern that you have a round, say the Northeast Corridor 440 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 3: with Laguardian Kennedy and Newark, or La and Burbank and 441 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 3: San Diego and sanf all along the West coast. I 442 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 3: think instead, it's the idea of thinking of the possibilities, 443 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 3: and that's what fascinates me, because we get so mired 444 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 3: down I'm going to get to some topics in just 445 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 3: a minute, but we get so mired down in the 446 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 3: minutia of the day to day politics that every once 447 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 3: in a while we need to look over here and 448 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 3: realize that somebody like Elon Musk is doing what maybe 449 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 3: Steve Jobs and Bosniak and the others did, or that 450 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 3: Hewlett and Packard did, or anybody else, for that matter, 451 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 3: Henry Ford did, that are thinking beyond what we tend 452 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 3: to think about on day to day experiences. I don't 453 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 3: fully comprehend it. It took me forever to try to 454 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 3: synthesize that. But what I do know is I get 455 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 3: excited when I think about, oh, Jimney Christmas. Seriously, as 456 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 3: you and I age every single day, we age, you know, 457 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 3: twenty four hours a day, seven days a week, and 458 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 3: our bodies get older and older and older. But what 459 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 3: we don't realize is that to our left and to 460 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 3: our right. And I don't mean that politically, but all 461 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 3: around us, technology and ideas, whether they be you know, 462 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 3: scientific ideas or medical ideas or whatever, are just roaring 463 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 3: past us, as if there are express lanes on both 464 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 3: of us that are just no speed limit and they're 465 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 3: moving straight ahead. And every once in a while we 466 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 3: need to think about that, that when we get to 467 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 3: be in our seventies, eighties or nineties, we may be 468 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 3: able to actually live beyond that, or other things may 469 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 3: have advanced so rapidly that we now suddenly do have 470 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 3: sources of cheap, reliable in the energy. And how will 471 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:25,359 Speaker 3: that in and of itself transform the entire world. We 472 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 3: sometimes get mired down in all the day to day 473 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 3: in minutia. How many people for example, I'm never going 474 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 3: to get to the things I wanted to get to 475 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 3: this segment. How many people think about what Musk for 476 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 3: that matter, Bezos or anybody else is doing that is 477 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 3: trying to advance civilization, advance technology, while they're mired down, 478 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,280 Speaker 3: waking up every morning checking their phones, their laptops, turning 479 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 3: on their TVs to see what's happen me in Pma County, Arizona. Now, 480 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 3: I feel sorry for the Guthrie family. Yes, I'm gonna 481 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 3: mention it. I feel sorry for the Guthrie family, and 482 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 3: I hope something, you know, I hope it's resolved one 483 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 3: way or another for them sooner rather than later, so 484 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 3: they don't have to suffer through this. You know, unknowing, 485 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 3: which is the worst thing to deal with is not 486 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 3: knowing something. But wow, too many, too many, and not 487 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 3: just in the United States, it's all over the world. 488 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 3: Get mired down in what the cabal is feeding you 489 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 3: as a soap opera because it's got violence. I think 490 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 3: it's missing sex, but it's got violence, it's got mystery, 491 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 3: it's got law enforcement agencies fighting among each other. You've 492 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 3: got everybody fighting for ratings. You've got TMZ involved. So 493 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 3: you've got the you got the Hollywood and the gossip 494 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 3: aspect of it, and everybody wakes up. Oh man, gosh, 495 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:59,399 Speaker 3: what's what's the latest, what's the latest? Meantime? All this 496 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 3: other stuff that's non political, non culture. But it's scientific, 497 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 3: This technological based is zooming right past us, and occasionally 498 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 3: I think it's worth the time to stop and just 499 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 3: think about what is it that's going on around us. 500 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 3: It's good, you know, it's an exercise for your brain. 501 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 3: It's it's like trying to put off dementia or Alzheimer's 502 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:32,760 Speaker 3: or anything else by stretching yourself and thinking about, Wow, 503 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 3: it's may seem impractical, but what about the possibilities your 504 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 3: POV determines on? You know, are you going to look 505 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 3: at it negatively or look at it? Oh, it may 506 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 3: be possible. We have to overcome some obstacles, but it 507 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:56,439 Speaker 3: is possible. Yes. Cheap, limitless dispatchable energy the key denominating 508 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 3: to dominating near space or anything anywhere. Seventeen thirteen. You're 509 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 3: exactly right. Everybody have a great weekend. 510 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: How be you? 511 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 3: Valentine's Day,