WEBVTT - 11-12-25 Reds Hot Stove League

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, very delightful, good evening to you, and welcome into

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<v Speaker 1>the Budwiser Reds Hot Stove League presented by u DF.

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<v Speaker 1>We are live the bet MGM Sportsbook inside Tom's Watch

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<v Speaker 1>Bar here at the Banks with jim Day. I'm Tommy

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<v Speaker 1>throw a lot to talk about in the world of

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<v Speaker 1>Reds Baseball today. We'll be talking Reds Baseball with you

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<v Speaker 1>for the next hour. Give us a call five one, three, seven, four,

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<v Speaker 1>nine hundred, the big One. We'll take your phone calls

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit later on. We've got plenty to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talked about the Reds Hall of Fame in museum

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<v Speaker 1>balloting that's out right now for the next class of

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<v Speaker 1>the Red's Hall of Fame. The Reds added a player

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<v Speaker 1>to the roster today and we've got a lot to

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<v Speaker 1>get to. We've also got Andre Rabbit coming up on

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<v Speaker 1>the show. So an exciting show and it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a packed one.

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<v Speaker 2>Jimmy always love to talk to Andrew Abbott when obviously

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<v Speaker 2>he's a great pitcher, but a good dude to talk to,

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<v Speaker 2>and upping the intelligence on this show immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>No doubt, no doubt. You know, there's a little story

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<v Speaker 1>of about the intelligence of and Rabbit. Jim and I

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<v Speaker 1>were trying to figure out how to get into the

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<v Speaker 1>ballpark through the security systems. They changed it, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>last year. I think at some point and I was

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<v Speaker 1>walking in for an event with Andrew, and these new

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<v Speaker 1>boxes had been on the walls by the doors and

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<v Speaker 1>by the gate where we come into the parking garage.

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<v Speaker 1>And I always thought we just had to call him

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<v Speaker 1>on our phone because the buttons were gone. He goes, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you just pressed the button. I said, where's the button?

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<v Speaker 1>He goes, that light right there, that looks like a button.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a button you push that. Neither one of us

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<v Speaker 1>knew it was a button. It took Andrew Rabbit's intelligence

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<v Speaker 1>for us to realize, oh, there's a button there. So

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<v Speaker 1>thanks a lot for Andrew for enlightening us and making

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<v Speaker 1>us smarter and figuring out how to get into the ballpark.

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<v Speaker 1>Sue for yourself, Yeah, well now that was both of us.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you called yourself out last time, but you

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<v Speaker 1>weren't on the air. Welcome in, Andrew Abbott, Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for joining us. How's your off season going, man?

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<v Speaker 3>All seasons? Well, guys, you know, thanks for having having

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<v Speaker 3>me on first of all. But you know, raveling, taking

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<v Speaker 3>in on the side, seeing the family, going to some

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<v Speaker 3>different places. So it's been it's been worthwhile so far.

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<v Speaker 2>How's mom and dad doing, By the way, I crushed

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<v Speaker 2>that salsa again, the homemade salsa that stockpiled a couple of.

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<v Speaker 3>Ye, they are doing great. They're doing great.

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<v Speaker 1>They they make for those that don't know. Their salsa

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<v Speaker 1>that they make is truly some of the best salsa,

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<v Speaker 1>not some of it is the best sauce I've ever had.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything homemade home.

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<v Speaker 1>They grow it right in their garden. It's outstanding. Speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of traveling around doing all kinds of stuff this offseason,

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<v Speaker 1>we saw that you were here in town. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>in town right now?

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, No, I am visiting them in Virginia currently.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, but you were in town. You went and took

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<v Speaker 1>in an FC Cincinnati game, and you had this distinct

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<v Speaker 1>privilege of a winner go home playoff match against Columbus

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<v Speaker 1>to pull the sword before the match.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it was. It was fantastic, you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, training and playing in front of a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people kind of get you ready for it. But

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<v Speaker 3>being in a different atmosphere in a different professional sport

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<v Speaker 3>is something that you know, we haven't had the ability

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<v Speaker 3>to do ever. And I was like, I think this

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<v Speaker 3>will be a cool thing to do. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't thank you know, FC enough in the Reds

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<v Speaker 3>and whoever else has helped behind the scenes and set

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<v Speaker 3>that up for me, because that was amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Also went to the Urban Youth Academy, and I know

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<v Speaker 2>it's not your first trip there, do you You're one

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<v Speaker 2>of those guys that when there's children's hospital visits, you

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<v Speaker 2>were always at the forefront of that. What was it

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<v Speaker 2>like going to the Urban Youth Academy and given your time?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know it's great. You know, you try

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<v Speaker 3>to give back whatever we can. Just you know, whenever

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<v Speaker 3>we have free time, whenever we have the ability to,

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<v Speaker 3>we're always going to be available, especially for those kids.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, just trying to inspire the next generation of

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<v Speaker 3>kids or you know, trying to get somebody something to

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<v Speaker 3>smile about. I mean, it really just makes everybody say

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<v Speaker 3>better and it's something that I take pride in.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's it's one of the remarkable things about you. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>just a great guy on and off the field. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about the season it was. It was certainly

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<v Speaker 1>a great year for you. It was a career year

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<v Speaker 1>for you, career best e r a under three this year,

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<v Speaker 1>you said, a new career high in innings and strikeouts

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<v Speaker 1>for you. What do you think when you look back

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<v Speaker 1>on the season, what was it that kind of allowed

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<v Speaker 1>you to take that next step forward in your career?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think, overall, I think it was just maturing

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<v Speaker 3>in the game and kind of understanding who I was

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<v Speaker 3>as the pitcher and what I needed to do. And

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<v Speaker 3>then you know, you add that, you add in the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that I had a bulletproof routine with the strength

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<v Speaker 3>staff with Rob and then with the training staff for

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<v Speaker 3>Sean and John and all those guys, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>really didn't have any waves, you know waves. We were

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<v Speaker 3>just you know, monotonous. We did the same thing day

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<v Speaker 3>in and day out, and you know, the results continue

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<v Speaker 3>to pour in. So, you know, a credit to those

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<v Speaker 3>guys for helping me out, you know, sitting me down

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<v Speaker 3>saying we agree with you, we need to do these things.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, once we were all on board, it

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<v Speaker 3>was just about doing it. And then you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>results were speaking for themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>We talked a lot about getting through a full season

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<v Speaker 2>and the Riggers and the bear that is the regular

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<v Speaker 2>season in Major League Baseball. You said learning more about yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>What specifically did you learn?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I think the addition of the cutter that

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<v Speaker 3>me and DJ were working on, and then just talking

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<v Speaker 3>with Steve O or Trevy our batterymates, and just figuring

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<v Speaker 3>out sequencing and really honing in on, you know, scouting

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<v Speaker 3>reports and all the pre stuff that's not even done

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<v Speaker 3>on the field, so that when you get on the field,

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<v Speaker 3>it's so much easier just to pitch like you're on

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<v Speaker 3>the same thing. You're not shaking, you're not taking forever,

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<v Speaker 3>and the game plan is almost bulletproof.

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<v Speaker 1>You were talking about the routine with your the strength staff,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I it's one of the things that always

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<v Speaker 1>stands out to me when you hear some of the

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<v Speaker 1>great pitchers talk about what makes them great, They talk

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<v Speaker 1>about their routine. It's not just the pregame routine, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's the days between the starts. I know Nolan Ryan

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<v Speaker 1>was one of those guys that worked really hard between stars,

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<v Speaker 1>was very regimented. Is that something that's relatively new to

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<v Speaker 1>you that you're just kind of starting to figure out right.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, I wouldn't say it's relatively new. You know, we

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<v Speaker 3>I had a little bit of it at UVA, But

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<v Speaker 3>as you get older, you kind of realize what works

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<v Speaker 3>for you and what doesn't work for you. And those

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<v Speaker 3>guys did a really good job at, you know, implementing

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<v Speaker 3>what worked for me, because you know, baseball is one

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<v Speaker 3>of those unique sports. Not everybody can do the same things.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we're not all built the same way, so

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it just takes what you're good at and

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<v Speaker 3>then tries to apply it as much as possible. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know, as I said before, like credit to those

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<v Speaker 3>guys for really putting in the work behind the scenes

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<v Speaker 3>and then coming to us and meeting with us individually,

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<v Speaker 3>not just myself but everybody else, and you know, figuring

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<v Speaker 3>out what's gonna work and sticking to it.

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<v Speaker 2>You've also you've learned how to get through the rigors

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<v Speaker 2>of one hundred and sixty two. It's the same learning

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<v Speaker 2>process of how to prepare in the off season. How

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<v Speaker 2>long did you shut it down? Are you still shut down?

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<v Speaker 2>When do you start ramping up? What do you what

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<v Speaker 2>are you doing right now besides.

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<v Speaker 3>Travel so ill, Yeah, I'm I'm traveling a bunch, so

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<v Speaker 3>we're fitting in workouts and stuff whenever I can, wherever

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<v Speaker 3>I can. But yeah, I I deloaded at the end

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<v Speaker 3>of the season for a week, and then I took

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<v Speaker 3>about two to three weeks off and I'm in week

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<v Speaker 3>three of throwing already, so I didn't take I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>take that much time off. You know, still going, still going,

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<v Speaker 3>working out with stuff down in Texas, and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>just I was ready for the season to start as

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<v Speaker 3>quick as it ended, because here we are and it's

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<v Speaker 3>almost the holidays.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>At that time getting close.

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<v Speaker 2>You said that you you're throwing now? Is that off

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<v Speaker 2>the mound?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you a long toss guy? What type of throwing

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<v Speaker 2>are you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm in a build up phase, So right now

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<v Speaker 3>I'm concentrated on numbers, so like workload, like how how

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<v Speaker 3>much effort I've give in too Each time is different.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>And then as I get further into it, I will

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<v Speaker 3>be off the mound and I will be long coughing.

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<v Speaker 3>But now I'm probably at sixty to seventy percent. Probably

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<v Speaker 3>will be a good guest.

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Rabbit is our guest, an All Star for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time this year, in year three of his career.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh left, you got time to stick around for another segment.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to get to a break. Yep, all good,

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<v Speaker 1>All right, sounds good. We've got more coming up with

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Abbott. Next, this is the Budweiser Reds Hot Stove

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<v Speaker 1>League presented by u DF. We're live the bet MGM

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<v Speaker 1>inside Tom's Watch Bar at the Banks, right across the

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<v Speaker 1>street from Great American Ballpark, Talking Reds baseball with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I misspoke last week I said, you know, we were

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<v Speaker 1>talking Reds baseball and it hadn't even turned cold. And

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<v Speaker 1>then lo and behold, a few days later, it snowed

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of inches. And now it's cold, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>starting to feel a little more wintery. So let's huddle

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<v Speaker 1>around the hot stove and talk some baseball. We're talking

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<v Speaker 1>with Andrew Abban, an All Star for the first time

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<v Speaker 1>this year this past offseas Andrew, you talked about You've

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<v Speaker 1>done some traveling this offseason, have you been anywhere cool

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<v Speaker 1>so far yet? Like, where's the best place you've been?

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't gone to many places that are cool. It's

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<v Speaker 3>just been between Texas Virginia and since the so far

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<v Speaker 3>I got you.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Now, we had an event late in the season

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<v Speaker 1>where you had made mentioned that you might be checking

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<v Speaker 1>out an Ohio State game at some point this fall.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you have you made your way to Columbus yet

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<v Speaker 1>to check on the Buckeyes.

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<v Speaker 3>I did, I was. I was there to watch. I

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<v Speaker 3>was watching them beat up on Penn State.

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<v Speaker 1>How was that? What's I mean? You're a Virginia guys,

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<v Speaker 1>so can you can you compare the two?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that is that one of the better college football

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<v Speaker 1>environments you've been to? I still haven't been to a game.

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<v Speaker 3>Uph Oh absolutely, I mean it was great. Uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the san atmosphere was awesome. The team's obviously very good.

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<v Speaker 3>I had a great time. A group of friends spent

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<v Speaker 3>it and spent the night there, and you know, to

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<v Speaker 3>enjoy a little bit of what Columbus had to offer.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I would. I would definitely recommend going to

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<v Speaker 3>a football game up there.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, very good. Uh, Jimmy, what kind of things does

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<v Speaker 1>Columbus have to offer.

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<v Speaker 2>It's God's country. He's pointing it offer up there just

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<v Speaker 2>like Cincinnati. Both are God's country.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, and Andrew, let's talk to baseball. You know we've

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<v Speaker 1>been we've been talking about your year. You are. It

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<v Speaker 1>seems like, you know, you're talking about the relationship with

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<v Speaker 1>your catcher and how important that is and going into

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<v Speaker 1>a game with a plan. But part of pitching is

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<v Speaker 1>understanding that maybe your plan won't necessarily work on that day.

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<v Speaker 1>It just happens. But you seem to be a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that can adjust on the fly as well as anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>And part of that, A lot of that credit goes

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<v Speaker 1>to your ability to read hitters. Is that something that

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<v Speaker 1>you just kind of do instinctually? Is it something you've learned?

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<v Speaker 1>Is is it something you even realize you do when

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<v Speaker 1>you're out there.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd say it's about half and half. I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>gotten a lot better over time. It's not always good,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, but like you said, you have to adjust

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<v Speaker 3>on the fly. Some games you're warming up in the

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<v Speaker 3>bullpen and you're like, I don't have this pitch. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't feel comfortable with it. Let's just kind of change

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<v Speaker 3>the game plan around or some days that everything's working.

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<v Speaker 3>It's almost like a read and react situation. You just

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<v Speaker 3>have to see what in front of you and figure out,

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<v Speaker 3>how are we going to get through six seven innings

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<v Speaker 3>with this? And let's just try our best to go

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<v Speaker 3>do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys make the playoffs. I'm sure you wish the record

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<v Speaker 2>was better than it was, but you did get in.

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<v Speaker 2>You have that nucleus that's seemingly coming back. As we

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<v Speaker 2>sit here right now, what does his team have to

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<v Speaker 2>do to make the next step to get up towards

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<v Speaker 2>maybe ninety wins, be hunting a Central Division title? What

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<v Speaker 2>do you think has to happen?

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<v Speaker 3>You know? In my opinion, I think it's we just

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<v Speaker 3>got to handle the teams that are below us or

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<v Speaker 3>teams that are you know, that are beatable by you know,

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<v Speaker 3>standards in the in the in the leagues, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>in the American and National I think last year we

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<v Speaker 3>beat the teams that we were honestly either underdogs against

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<v Speaker 3>or we were about fifty to fifty with, and then

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<v Speaker 3>it felt like we didn't beat anybody that was beneath us.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think going in, I think you see those

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<v Speaker 3>really good teams, you know, you know, the dog is

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<v Speaker 3>the Yankees the Cubs. Those guys handle the teams that

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<v Speaker 3>are below them and then can still beat the teams

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<v Speaker 3>above them, and then that's why they turn out with

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<v Speaker 3>ninety plus wins. And I think that's personally, I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's probably the biggest thing that we need to focus on.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you hit the nail on the head. You talk

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<v Speaker 1>about being good enough to beat good teams. When you're

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<v Speaker 1>good enough to be good teams, you can beat anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the key to kind of give getting over the hump?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure, I'm sure you guys talked about it internally.

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<v Speaker 1>What are some of those things that you feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you need to do better to be able to have

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<v Speaker 1>success against teams that don't have as good of a

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<v Speaker 1>record next year.

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<v Speaker 3>I still think we, you know, we always have to

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<v Speaker 3>play clean baseball no matter who we're going against. I

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<v Speaker 3>just think maybe in those moments you might see a

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<v Speaker 3>little more relapsed from everybody, including myself, and I just think,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we got to put our heads down and say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>well we know this team is good. They're all major

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<v Speaker 3>the players like, let's go do it and handle our business.

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<v Speaker 3>And I mean it's easier said than done, obviously, But

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<v Speaker 3>I think when we already know our group is so good,

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<v Speaker 3>we're playing together, we're jailed, you know, we're a family

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<v Speaker 3>as a team. I think that's probably the simplest thing

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<v Speaker 3>is just let's focus just us had a bit more

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<v Speaker 3>all together.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct me if I'm wrong, But I thought I saw

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<v Speaker 2>you and Chase Burns hanging out a lot, not necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>off the field, but in the dugout, etc. Or when

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<v Speaker 2>you're throwing. And if that's the case, what kind of

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<v Speaker 2>makeup does this kid happen? What are some of the

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<v Speaker 2>things that he picks your brain about?

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<v Speaker 3>No, Chase is great, you know, I mean I miss

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<v Speaker 3>him my year in college.

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<v Speaker 1>But you saw the highlight reel.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he's a walking highlight reeler guy. Stuff electric,

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<v Speaker 3>He's got a bright future ahead of him in the

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<v Speaker 3>game and beyond the game. You know, during the game, though,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that's just kind of starting pitchers hanging out,

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<v Speaker 3>Like we'll be talking about pitching one minute, and then

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<v Speaker 3>we'll be talking about video games the next minute, or

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<v Speaker 3>trying to figure out plans with each other or so,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, something like that. But when he's picking your brain,

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<v Speaker 3>the guy he's very, very intelligent with pitches, with pitch calling,

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<v Speaker 3>with you know, all the analytical spin rates and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>So honestly, it's a little bit of both back and

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<v Speaker 3>forth between us two. I'm picking his brain on that stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's just picking my brain off of like maybe

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<v Speaker 3>he's a routine or maybe something he should include or

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<v Speaker 3>take out. So it goes both ways for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Another guy that was around this year, he obviously didn't

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<v Speaker 1>pitch as much as I'm sure the Reds hoped he would.

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<v Speaker 1>But that was Wade Miley, who is just I assume

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<v Speaker 1>you've spent some time with him. He's a wealth of knowledge.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you able to pick his brain? I mean, he's

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<v Speaker 1>he's a left hander. I gotta believe there's some similarities

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<v Speaker 1>between you two and some things that you could learn

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<v Speaker 1>from him. Did you have a chance to do that

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<v Speaker 1>much with Wade while he was around?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I wasn't around the last time the red signed him.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was what twenty twenty one, I believe,

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<v Speaker 3>so I missed him during that time. But in spring training,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, he took his own time away from you know,

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<v Speaker 3>his family and stuff to work with me on my

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<v Speaker 3>pickoff move with me on you know, just different pitching

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<v Speaker 3>mechanics stuff for like, you know, really trying to get

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<v Speaker 3>in on right handed hitters, like what I should focus on.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean you said it correctly.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the guy.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a great guy. He's a wealth of knowledge. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think knowing that I'm, you know, just starting out

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<v Speaker 3>in the league, that leaning on guys like that are

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<v Speaker 3>the reason why I can play for longer is because

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<v Speaker 3>those guys are just passing on stuff that has kept

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<v Speaker 3>them around for fourteen, ten plus years.

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<v Speaker 1>Like whatever it may be, well, Andrew, certainly appreciated. Enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of your season. Do you have any before

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<v Speaker 1>we let you go? You got it? Got any big

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<v Speaker 1>trips on the horizon, some fun trips, some exciting places

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<v Speaker 1>that you plan on going before you have to head

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<v Speaker 1>back to Arizona for spring training.

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<v Speaker 3>The Abbot crew is going to the beach next week.

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<v Speaker 3>That's about the funnest thing I got planned.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, that sounds good. Well, enjoy it. That sounds plenty

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<v Speaker 1>fun to me. Take care, Andrew. I'm sure we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you again before we all head down to Arizona.

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<v Speaker 1>Good luck in the offseason. Enjoyed, man, Thanks yeah, you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you Thanks Andrew. That is Red's Lefty Andrew Abbott

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<v Speaker 1>that the Reds did make a move today they claimed

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Rourtviitt off Waivers. Of course, you may remember Ben

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<v Speaker 1>Rhurtvitt was playing for the Dodgers when the Reds met

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<v Speaker 1>him in the postseason. Start of the season. Did rtfit

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<v Speaker 1>and the Rays organization then went over to the Dodgers.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Reds have claimed him. He's a catcher. Kind

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<v Speaker 1>Of an interesting move here, Jim, that the Reds would

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<v Speaker 1>claim Ben Rurtviitt off Waivers here when they've already got

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of catchers. Tyler Stevenson figures to be the

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<v Speaker 1>regular guy. Then you got Jose Travino, a very valuable

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<v Speaker 1>backup behind him. They almost split time during the season,

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<v Speaker 1>so now you work Ben Rurtvinn into the mix. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>curious to see all the reasoning behind that, how this

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<v Speaker 1>is going to play out this offseason. If if this

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<v Speaker 1>maybe signals something to come for the Reds, it could.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's just part of off season insurance. I understand.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think he has any options, right, so that

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<v Speaker 2>complicates things. And I haven't talked to Nick kraw or

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<v Speaker 2>Brad Metter about this, so I'm just just cheerly, just

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<v Speaker 2>be speculating, But I would be surprised if someone like

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<v Speaker 2>that would be on the Reds roster come season time,

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<v Speaker 2>unless something happens, if you move one of those catchers

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<v Speaker 2>and you don't want to shop a catcher when you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have two quote unquote big league catchers more than

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<v Speaker 2>two on your roster right within your system. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's a little bit of insurance there. So they

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<v Speaker 2>have space on the forty man, so he might be

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<v Speaker 2>a candidate. He's on the Reds roster, now will he

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<v Speaker 2>come come season time remains to be sick.

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<v Speaker 1>He was three for six against the Reds in those

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<v Speaker 1>two wild card games. He's not exactly a five hundred

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<v Speaker 1>hitter for his career. There hadn't been one of those yet,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, for his career two seventy nine hitter.

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<v Speaker 1>Parts of about four seasons in the big leagues for

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<v Speaker 1>Ben roadtfit actually yeah, parts of four seasons. Broke in

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<v Speaker 1>first in twenty twenty one, to play at all in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two, and then he's been briefly with the Yankees,

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<v Speaker 1>stops in Tampa Bay, and then most recently the Dodgers.

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<v Speaker 1>Originally his second round pick the Twins back in twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>a high school selection, Ben Roordvitt claimed off waivers from

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<v Speaker 1>the Dodgers today by the Reds other news this week.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, manager of the Year voting took place

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<v Speaker 1>right before the end of the season. The voting had

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<v Speaker 1>already been done by the time the postseason came around

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<v Speaker 1>and started. Terry Francona was one of the finalists in

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<v Speaker 1>the National League. He finished second in the Nation League

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<v Speaker 1>Manager of the Year voting, So I think that deserves

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<v Speaker 1>little congratulations. In his first year at the helm of

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<v Speaker 1>the Reds, taking the Reds to the playoffs the first

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<v Speaker 1>time in the full season since twenty thirteen, first time

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<v Speaker 1>overall since twenty twenty. No surprise really that Pat Murphy

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<v Speaker 1>got the win there in the National League.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no surprise. And I think the most interesting thing

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<v Speaker 2>for me about Frankcona is he came in just learning

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<v Speaker 2>the Reds organization, the roster, the players, etc. And at

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<v Speaker 2>times you're almost flying blind when you're doing that, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's a learning process on the go. I think he's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have a lot more influence. Yeah, just my opinion

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<v Speaker 2>on the roster going forward, some of the decision.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's the thing. It really sounds like, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what it's like for other organizations, but he

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<v Speaker 1>and Nick and Brad seem to all work really really

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<v Speaker 1>well together, and it's almost like those three are kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like one unit when it comes to putting this

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<v Speaker 1>roster together. I think that's a good thing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about you, but I remember early days

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<v Speaker 1>of spring training last year talking to Tito about certain

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<v Speaker 1>players and instantly he maybe only seen him in a

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<v Speaker 1>workout or seen him in one game and already had

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<v Speaker 1>a really good idea of what that player was. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a gift, and I think that is a valuable asset

0:22:52.359 --> 0:22:54.760
<v Speaker 1>for a guy in that situation and that role to

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<v Speaker 1>have working with your top baseball ops guys.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that that was part of what intrigued him

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<v Speaker 2>about the Reds is that they told him you are

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<v Speaker 2>going to manage the team. We want you to manage

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<v Speaker 2>the team. And you're like, well, obviously, duh. What I

0:23:13.560 --> 0:23:18.840
<v Speaker 2>hear rumblings in Cleveland the front office is always put

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<v Speaker 2>out this lineup, play this player on this day. Why

0:23:22.520 --> 0:23:26.160
<v Speaker 2>are you making that move? Where they the Reds basically

0:23:26.160 --> 0:23:28.280
<v Speaker 2>told we want you're one of the best managers on

0:23:28.359 --> 0:23:32.320
<v Speaker 2>the planet. You manage the team. We will deal with

0:23:32.440 --> 0:23:35.200
<v Speaker 2>the player side of it. I think that was very intriguing.

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<v Speaker 2>They are not meddling in his Sure, they give him

0:23:37.680 --> 0:23:41.840
<v Speaker 2>suggestions that he gets all the analytics. The baseball ops

0:23:41.920 --> 0:23:45.080
<v Speaker 2>department works very closely in that regard, but they are

0:23:45.119 --> 0:23:47.840
<v Speaker 2>not telling him what his lineup should.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody likes to get the input here. There's a difference

0:23:51.400 --> 0:23:54.440
<v Speaker 1>between giving input and then telling somebody what to do.

0:23:55.200 --> 0:23:58.159
<v Speaker 1>He loves to get the information. Nobody's telling him what

0:23:58.200 --> 0:24:01.080
<v Speaker 1>to do. That's that's a valuable asset, and that's, like

0:24:01.119 --> 0:24:03.920
<v Speaker 1>you said, a very appealing thing about this job to

0:24:04.000 --> 0:24:06.280
<v Speaker 1>him when he came here. The Reds are looking for

0:24:06.359 --> 0:24:09.879
<v Speaker 1>a new coach. We'll talk more about that, and we

0:24:09.960 --> 0:24:12.439
<v Speaker 1>also will talk Red's Hall of Fame balloting when the

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0:24:54.880 --> 0:24:57.880
<v Speaker 1>an opening now on their coaching staff. Simon Matthews, who

0:24:57.960 --> 0:25:01.480
<v Speaker 1>is the Red Sunshine Yes, who was the Reds assistant

0:25:01.520 --> 0:25:04.640
<v Speaker 1>pitching coach last year, has moved on to greener pastors.

0:25:04.640 --> 0:25:08.840
<v Speaker 1>The Washington Nationals have hired Simon to be their pitching coach.

0:25:09.000 --> 0:25:12.160
<v Speaker 1>So after one year under the tutelage of Derek Johnson,

0:25:12.240 --> 0:25:15.160
<v Speaker 1>he has moved on to the Washington Nationals to take

0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:18.399
<v Speaker 1>over kind of like Caleb Cotham did. Who's still in

0:25:18.520 --> 0:25:20.760
<v Speaker 1>that same role now it's the pitching coach of the Phillies.

0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:23.800
<v Speaker 1>After spending a little time with Derek Johnson here at

0:25:23.800 --> 0:25:24.200
<v Speaker 1>the Red.

0:25:25.359 --> 0:25:28.800
<v Speaker 2>Assistant pitching coach in Miami. So is Derek Johnson the

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<v Speaker 2>pitching coach?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'll tell you what, some guys have gone on

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<v Speaker 1>to have quite a bit of success after leaving his instructions.

0:25:37.480 --> 0:25:40.000
<v Speaker 1>So we wish Simon Matthews the best. Now the question

0:25:40.119 --> 0:25:42.960
<v Speaker 1>is who fills that role. I don't know if Wade

0:25:43.000 --> 0:25:45.160
<v Speaker 1>Miley is done playing baseball yet, but.

0:25:45.160 --> 0:25:47.040
<v Speaker 2>If he's not, gonna be time.

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<v Speaker 1>If he is in fact done, you got to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out a way to get that guy in this organization.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna make a great coach somewhere at some point.

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<v Speaker 1>The question is is he ready for that commitment. And

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<v Speaker 1>at this point, if in fact he is done trying

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<v Speaker 1>to play baseball, he would be perfect for that role

0:26:05.680 --> 0:26:07.520
<v Speaker 1>if it's something that he was willing to do.

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<v Speaker 2>If he sits in the offseason and thinks he can

0:26:09.880 --> 0:26:13.560
<v Speaker 2>still get people out. I would not be guys. I

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<v Speaker 2>just I don't know. Although his you know, he's obviously

0:26:17.680 --> 0:26:19.600
<v Speaker 2>up there in the age and his body was breaking

0:26:19.680 --> 0:26:24.399
<v Speaker 2>down and father time undefeated. To have him in the

0:26:24.520 --> 0:26:28.240
<v Speaker 2>organization absolutely a huge win if the Reds could get

0:26:28.240 --> 0:26:30.760
<v Speaker 2>that done. As far as being an assistant pitching coach,

0:26:30.880 --> 0:26:34.000
<v Speaker 2>the daily grind of that, I don't see that times

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<v Speaker 2>have changed. These guys make so much money now they

0:26:38.240 --> 0:26:41.760
<v Speaker 2>don't have to work. No, he's in that category and

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't see him doing the everyday grind of

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<v Speaker 2>an assistant pitching coach.

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<v Speaker 1>The only reason I would say that it could happen

0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:52.320
<v Speaker 1>for a guy like that is he is the baseball

0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:56.119
<v Speaker 1>equivalent of a gym rat. I mean, he absolutely loves

0:26:56.160 --> 0:26:59.679
<v Speaker 1>the game. He loves pitching, he loves sharing his knowledge,

0:26:59.680 --> 0:27:02.440
<v Speaker 1>and he has a wealth of it. He's one of

0:27:02.480 --> 0:27:04.240
<v Speaker 1>those guys that I don't feel like ever gets tired

0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:06.960
<v Speaker 1>of talking about the game of baseball and pitching. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if that's the direction the Reds are going

0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:11.399
<v Speaker 1>to go, but you can't help but wonder if that

0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:12.720
<v Speaker 1>is an option.

0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:15.680
<v Speaker 2>He's a master of reading hitters. You got that talked

0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:18.159
<v Speaker 2>de Andre Rabbit about reading hitters. I mean, he is

0:27:18.320 --> 0:27:21.080
<v Speaker 2>one of the masters. I wish you could just send

0:27:21.119 --> 0:27:26.159
<v Speaker 2>every pitcher through the Wade Miley how to read hitters club.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll see, he would be invaluable just to have

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<v Speaker 2>in the organization at any level.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things that we're hearing quite a bit,

0:27:34.760 --> 0:27:37.680
<v Speaker 1>of course, Brad Meta, the Reds general manager and president

0:27:37.720 --> 0:27:40.800
<v Speaker 1>of Baseball Operations Nick Crawler out in Arizona or out

0:27:40.840 --> 0:27:43.520
<v Speaker 1>in Vegas right now for the GM meetings. One of

0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:46.360
<v Speaker 1>the things that we keep reading from the meetings is

0:27:46.840 --> 0:27:50.400
<v Speaker 1>looks like Spencer Steer is probably going to be used

0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:52.199
<v Speaker 1>a little bit differently than he was last year. He

0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:55.480
<v Speaker 1>was the Reds everyday first baseman, finished runner up for

0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:57.360
<v Speaker 1>the Gold Glove at first base. I mean, this guy

0:27:57.359 --> 0:28:02.679
<v Speaker 1>played a true Gold Glove caliber base I think you

0:28:02.760 --> 0:28:05.359
<v Speaker 1>really you lose something if you go back to moving

0:28:05.440 --> 0:28:08.520
<v Speaker 1>him around, because he came. He became as good of

0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:10.480
<v Speaker 1>a first basement as you could ask for. Look at

0:28:10.480 --> 0:28:13.920
<v Speaker 1>the World Series. The first baseman's in the World Series

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:18.080
<v Speaker 1>between Freddie Freeman and Vladimir Guerrero Junior played a huge

0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:22.800
<v Speaker 1>role for their teams at first base. I've never really

0:28:22.880 --> 0:28:27.760
<v Speaker 1>understood why a position that impacts the ball on almost

0:28:27.800 --> 0:28:31.800
<v Speaker 1>every play is so undervalued from a defensive standpoint, as

0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:34.840
<v Speaker 1>first base is Spencer Steer. I thought showed all year

0:28:34.880 --> 0:28:38.680
<v Speaker 1>long how valuable the defense is over there. I'm really

0:28:38.720 --> 0:28:41.920
<v Speaker 1>curious to see how that plays out, because you got

0:28:41.920 --> 0:28:44.640
<v Speaker 1>something there. You've got a really good infield, especially if

0:28:44.640 --> 0:28:46.960
<v Speaker 1>you can clean up Ellie's defense short when you have

0:28:47.040 --> 0:28:49.920
<v Speaker 1>McClain at second base. Key Brian Hayes just came off

0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:52.920
<v Speaker 1>his second Gold Glove year over at third base, Spencer Steer.

0:28:52.920 --> 0:28:54.520
<v Speaker 1>If you keep him at first he'll win one at

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<v Speaker 1>some point.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you got to get some offense somewhere. I get

0:28:58.200 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 2>everything you're saying us to Baseball for recognizing steers excellence

0:29:02.920 --> 0:29:06.600
<v Speaker 2>defensively at first base, because every time national broadcasters will

0:29:06.640 --> 0:29:08.320
<v Speaker 2>come through, they would kind of pick our brain on

0:29:08.360 --> 0:29:11.080
<v Speaker 2>the team, and I said to all of them, if

0:29:11.080 --> 0:29:13.320
<v Speaker 2>he's not a finalist for the Gold Glove at first base,

0:29:13.360 --> 0:29:16.200
<v Speaker 2>there's crime going on. And they would look like, well,

0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:18.240
<v Speaker 2>what you're talking about. It's you know, people that didn't

0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:20.320
<v Speaker 2>watch him on a daily basis. But if you watched

0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:23.160
<v Speaker 2>him every day, he was excellent over there. Now, they're

0:29:23.200 --> 0:29:26.360
<v Speaker 2>talking about the story or what they're talking about in

0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:30.240
<v Speaker 2>Vegas moving him around. If you ask him, his most

0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:34.120
<v Speaker 2>natural position is second base, but that's probably is not

0:29:34.280 --> 0:29:38.760
<v Speaker 2>his best prices. He can be a serviceable outfielder, I'm

0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:41.360
<v Speaker 2>not sure he's going to be a great outfielder, so

0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:46.680
<v Speaker 2>moving him around like that has a tremendous amount of value.

0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:49.160
<v Speaker 2>Obviously you are going to lose if he doesn't play

0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:52.000
<v Speaker 2>there every day. But with this, you got to look

0:29:52.000 --> 0:29:57.000
<v Speaker 2>at the current roster. That old saying, you know, if

0:29:57.000 --> 0:29:59.560
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna hit, they're gonna find you a place. I

0:29:59.600 --> 0:30:02.480
<v Speaker 2>think al Stewart is in that equation. I don't think

0:30:02.560 --> 0:30:04.800
<v Speaker 2>third base was ever going to be his future. I

0:30:04.840 --> 0:30:07.920
<v Speaker 2>know people were upset of they brought in Key Brian Hayes,

0:30:07.960 --> 0:30:10.480
<v Speaker 2>and where's south Stuart going to play. I don't think

0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:13.800
<v Speaker 2>south Stewart's future was ever going to be at third base.

0:30:14.600 --> 0:30:16.560
<v Speaker 2>I think he was going to be a first baseman.

0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:18.840
<v Speaker 2>Now he took this up in the middle of the year.

0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:23.480
<v Speaker 2>Sal So same thing with Spencer. You've got to give

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:25.880
<v Speaker 2>him time to learn the position. I'm not he will

0:30:25.960 --> 0:30:28.320
<v Speaker 2>never be on the level defensively of Spencer stear At

0:30:28.360 --> 0:30:32.960
<v Speaker 2>first base. But the kid seemingly can hit, you can

0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:36.200
<v Speaker 2>d h South Stewart. But this I go back to

0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:38.400
<v Speaker 2>the roster. You've got a guy like Gavin Lucks on

0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:41.440
<v Speaker 2>the roster. He's without a position where you're going to

0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:45.680
<v Speaker 2>play him. So this is the daily thought process that

0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:48.680
<v Speaker 2>goes in. Sure, you can hit, but what where's where

0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:50.640
<v Speaker 2>are you going to play and where you're going to

0:30:50.720 --> 0:30:53.800
<v Speaker 2>get the offense from. This team lacked the offense last year,

0:30:54.160 --> 0:30:57.959
<v Speaker 2>certainly lacked the power of hitting home not hitting home runs.

0:30:58.560 --> 0:31:02.040
<v Speaker 2>Your corner positions are normally your power guys. I know

0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:05.040
<v Speaker 2>that's changed a little bit in today's game, but you

0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:09.680
<v Speaker 2>need offense somewhere. So it is a dilemma and is

0:31:09.720 --> 0:31:11.000
<v Speaker 2>one they're going to have to figure out.

0:31:11.080 --> 0:31:13.239
<v Speaker 1>Well, we'll see what the Reds do for that. We

0:31:13.280 --> 0:31:15.800
<v Speaker 1>wrap up the Budweiser Reds Hot Stove League presented by

0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:22.720
<v Speaker 1>UDF when we come back on the Reds Radio Network.

0:31:23.480 --> 0:31:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Welcome back. It's the Budwiser reds Hot Stove League presented

0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:28.480
<v Speaker 1>by UDF. We've been talking about it. We'll finally talk

0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:30.520
<v Speaker 1>about it. We've been teasing it, we haven't really talked

0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:34.000
<v Speaker 1>about it. But voting is open now. To help decide

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:37.760
<v Speaker 1>who is going to be enshrined this year in the

0:31:37.760 --> 0:31:42.440
<v Speaker 1>induction class the Reds Hall of Fame and Museum. Voting

0:31:42.560 --> 0:31:45.040
<v Speaker 1>is open now. All you have to do is go

0:31:45.080 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 1>to Redsmuseum dot org to vote. Your options are Homer Bailey,

0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Francisco Cordero, Zach Cozart, Aaron Harang, Mike Leak, Brandon Phillips,

0:31:54.080 --> 0:32:00.200
<v Speaker 1>Scott Roland, and Edinson Volkez. You have until eleven fifty

0:32:00.320 --> 0:32:04.560
<v Speaker 1>nine technically on November twenty seven, basically midnight November twenty seventh,

0:32:04.640 --> 0:32:08.040
<v Speaker 1>to go to Redsmuseum dot org and vote on who

0:32:08.120 --> 0:32:10.680
<v Speaker 1>you think should be in the Reds Hall of Fame

0:32:10.840 --> 0:32:13.720
<v Speaker 1>in museum, Jimmy, who you got on that list? Who?

0:32:13.880 --> 0:32:15.280
<v Speaker 1>Who makes it?

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:16.200
<v Speaker 3>Well?

0:32:16.240 --> 0:32:19.000
<v Speaker 2>These are just the modern player candidates. There's gonna be

0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:21.840
<v Speaker 2>ones that played a little farther back that will be

0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:28.880
<v Speaker 2>inducted as well. Brandon Phillips's lock, the other ones, you know,

0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:33.120
<v Speaker 2>a little a little dicey. He didn't spend a whole

0:32:33.120 --> 0:32:36.240
<v Speaker 2>lot of time here. And the criteria is what three years.

0:32:37.640 --> 0:32:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Be a.

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<v Speaker 2>Looking through here?

0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:41.800
<v Speaker 1>Three years?

0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:44.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, three years appeared in at least three seasons with

0:32:44.680 --> 0:32:47.560
<v Speaker 2>the Reds. Five years of pass it's their major league season.

0:32:47.560 --> 0:32:53.240
<v Speaker 2>Blah blah blah, Scott Rolling. It's a tough one because

0:32:53.240 --> 0:32:57.160
<v Speaker 2>he wasn't here very long. But you know, you want

0:32:57.160 --> 0:33:00.600
<v Speaker 2>a gold Glove here, he wants some had some achol.

0:33:00.800 --> 0:33:02.719
<v Speaker 1>And you talk to guys that played with him, they

0:33:02.760 --> 0:33:06.120
<v Speaker 1>will tell you how valuable he was getting this team

0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:08.680
<v Speaker 1>over the hump his leadership. Can you put a guy

0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:10.840
<v Speaker 1>in the Hall of Fame in a team hall of Fame.

0:33:10.600 --> 0:33:13.040
<v Speaker 2>For his leadership? He was the final piece. I mean,

0:33:13.200 --> 0:33:16.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, Homer Bailey had two no hitters. That's going

0:33:16.800 --> 0:33:19.280
<v Speaker 2>to headline his bio.

0:33:20.240 --> 0:33:22.680
<v Speaker 1>I gotta know if he's a strong candidate too, right

0:33:22.800 --> 0:33:26.120
<v Speaker 1>at some point this year, I don't know I would

0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:27.480
<v Speaker 1>pick those two.

0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:31.320
<v Speaker 2>I guess certainly Phillips and the other one I could

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:35.480
<v Speaker 2>be sold on a few guys. Aaron Harang started a

0:33:35.720 --> 0:33:42.160
<v Speaker 2>number of opening days. I had a bunch of strikeouts.

0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:44.920
<v Speaker 2>I know, he's top ten in strikeouts in Red's history,

0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:51.520
<v Speaker 2>seventh in Red's history, thirtieth and wins. You know, he

0:33:51.760 --> 0:33:54.040
<v Speaker 2>was at a time when the Reds didn't have a

0:33:54.120 --> 0:33:56.400
<v Speaker 2>deep pitching. He was the guy.

0:33:56.920 --> 0:33:59.520
<v Speaker 1>So just the.

0:33:59.160 --> 0:34:02.280
<v Speaker 2>Longevity of his career with the Reds would certainly stack up.

0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:05.600
<v Speaker 2>Zach Klozar was a tremendous short stop.

0:34:05.760 --> 0:34:10.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean set the rookie home run record for red shortstop.

0:34:09.560 --> 0:34:13.280
<v Speaker 2>So League All Star Gold Glove finalists a couple of times.

0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:17.000
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it'll be in Rcy Phillips and you talk

0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:18.000
<v Speaker 2>me into someone else.

0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's fair. Yeah, that's good list. It's certainly I

0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:25.640
<v Speaker 1>would say Phillips and Bailey almost a lock, I would

0:34:25.680 --> 0:34:29.280
<v Speaker 1>think to get in for that class. You can vote.

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<v Speaker 1>You have until the twenty seventh to get your voting in.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all the time we have for you today. Big

0:34:36.200 --> 0:34:38.959
<v Speaker 1>thanks to Andrew Abbott for joining us. By the way,

0:34:39.239 --> 0:34:42.880
<v Speaker 1>and Rabbit is up for all MLB Starting Pitcher. The

0:34:42.920 --> 0:34:48.520
<v Speaker 1>award show is tomorrow night nine Eastern here on MLB Network.

0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:51.120
<v Speaker 1>That's all the time we have for you for today.

0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:54.279
<v Speaker 1>Thanks for listening. Big thanks to our producer engineer Debut

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:56.799
<v Speaker 1>the Armburster for Jim Day. Thanks to Andrew Rabbit. I'm

0:34:56.800 --> 0:34:59.200
<v Speaker 1>Tommy Thrall. We'll talk to you again next Wednesday on

0:34:59.239 --> 0:35:00.640
<v Speaker 1>the REDS Radio Network. A night