1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: Good morning, Welcome to the Big Outdoors News Radio seven 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: hundred WLW, Cincinnati, Chipparts and my guest today is Justin Puzzuli. 3 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 2: He's a State Rep. 4 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: District ninety, I believe, which has Adams County and part 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 1: of Brown County. 6 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 2: He happens to be. 7 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: My Rep in Adams County, although I can't vote there 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: because it's not my residence. But it's my uh, it's 9 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: my play plum, my playtime, my playfield. That's where I 10 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: go hang out as Adams and Hind County, as you know, 11 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: well from Tom Cross, which would also be Justin's uh, 12 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: I guess constituent. I'll put it that way. So Justin, 13 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: welcome to the Big Outdoors. Uh. House Bill six forty one, 14 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: the Trails and Tails Act. You know, the subject's been 15 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: going around for at least ten years. Explain people what 16 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: this bill is that you've sponsored. D Do you have 17 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 1: a couple of other other sponsors? 18 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 3: Yes, Sarah Chip, thanks for having me on. First of all, 19 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 3: I really appreciate your voice for hunters and rural Ohio. 20 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,839 Speaker 3: But my bill it's actually kind of two in. 21 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 4: One, if you will. Yeah. 22 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 3: Look, one looks at a feasibility of elk reinduct reintroduction 23 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 3: in limited rural parts of Ohio. That's a million and 24 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 3: a half dollar appropriation. Another study, it's a million and 25 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 3: a half appropriation to study designated side by side trail system. 26 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:39,919 Speaker 3: So it's a three million dollar study. 27 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 4: It's a two in one. 28 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 3: It doesn't it doesn't mandate anything. It doesn't release We're 29 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 3: not releasing animals right now. It doesn't build trails right now. 30 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 3: It simply asked smart questions before we make big decisions. 31 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 3: And I actually have it written into the bill that 32 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 3: it will require public input. 33 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: Okay, Well that that certain depends on what what public 34 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: input Where we're getting the input, if it's from the 35 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: city to Cincinnati, Cleveland or Columbus, I'm not sure I 36 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: want that input. 37 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 3: But the word farmers and hunters is used there. 38 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: You go, okay, good, good, good good. So is this 39 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: the study expenditure? Does that come out of odn R. 40 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: Has that come out of the state general budget? 41 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 4: That's a good question. 42 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 3: So that'll that would be the state budget appropriation operating 43 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 3: budget for odn R our general revenue fund. 44 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: Okay, so this does not I guess, unless they want 45 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 1: to kick in some money. But is there a potential 46 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: that this can take away from their funding or is 47 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: this going to be actually totally separate. 48 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 3: Oh no, yeah, oh no, this is a This is 49 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 3: totally separate. It's an addition. And maybe your viewers are thinking, well, 50 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 3: why should three million dollars of my taxpayer dollars. 51 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 4: Be spent to study something like this? Uh, well, if you. 52 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 3: Look at the potential economic impact, it's in the tens 53 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 3: of millions of dollars, and so it's really a small 54 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 3: investment if our state does pursue this. That's what's really 55 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 3: driving me on this bill is the economic it's economic driver, 56 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 3: and so states like Kentucky and West Virginia ELK have 57 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 3: have brought a lot of tourism, guide services, lodging, restaurants, 58 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 3: gas stations, eventually tightly managed hunting opportunities. 59 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 4: That's the long term view, but I. 60 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 3: View it as a rural economic investment bill. The question 61 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 3: of Ohio for Ohio is pretty simple, and it's are 62 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 3: there specific regions where ELK could work without harming agriculture, 63 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 3: property rights, or our existing wildlife? And that's exactly what 64 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 3: the study would answer. 65 00:03:55,760 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: I think there is property that I guess would be 66 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: suitable and and and I'm familiar with the elk that 67 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: were introduced in Kentucky and West Virginia and virtually every 68 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: other state arounds except for I think Indiana. But nonetheless, 69 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 1: I mean you could even throw in elk watching for 70 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: the non consumptive population that just likes looking at the animals, 71 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: and they are quite majestic. So you know, certainly it's 72 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: got a lot, it has a tremendous amount of potential. 73 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: I wasn't I was trying to remember if dn R 74 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: had done a study and and I failed to ask them. 75 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: But nonetheless, this would be the full blown study that's 76 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: absolutely necessary to look at everything across the board in 77 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: terms of the elk. So you know, side by side 78 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: vehicle trail systems, well, certainly they're tremendously popular in Kentucky and. 79 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 2: West Virginia and they bring a lot. 80 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: They definitely push a lot of people, you know, through 81 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: through the through the areas that that that those are 82 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: you know. 83 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 2: Uh, a part of. 84 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 3: Chip. Every single weekend, I am sick and tired of 85 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 3: seeing all of the trucks on the Ohio side with 86 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 3: their trailers. 87 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 4: Loaded up with side by side. 88 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 3: They're crossing our bridge from Ohio into Kentucky and West 89 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 3: Virginia to go side by sides, writing we're losing a 90 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 3: giant economic millions. 91 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 4: Of dollars of dollars we're losing well. 92 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: I know, and for the part of the state that 93 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: we're speaking of that you know, these kinds of things 94 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: are tremendously important. 95 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 2: So we got to hit a break. 96 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: Representative of Puzzouli and I'll call you Justin since we're 97 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: newfound friends, and uh, we're going to hit that breake. 98 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: Chip Hart seven hundred w l W, Cincinnati, The Big Outdoors. 99 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 5: It's a Saturday slam Athon, which figure heats up with 100 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 5: markettitchcintas well the Musketeers enforced on No Fly Zone or 101 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 5: will Golden Eagles saar off with the win. Catch the 102 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,119 Speaker 5: call live today at two thirty pm on seven hundred 103 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 5: wl W or stream on the iHeartRadio app. 104 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: It all comes down to this, folks, Yet the entire 105 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: season is on the line. Yeah, seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati. 106 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: My guest is Representative Justin Bazouli. He is the I 107 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: guess District ninety would be Adams County and I guess 108 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: the majority of Brown County. We're talking about House Bill 109 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: six forty one and it's expanding side by side doing that. 110 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: Let's let me just back up a second. 111 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: It's to do the proper research necessary and studies about 112 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: introducing ELK to Ohio and expansion the trail systems for 113 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: side by side. So how'd you come about getting involved 114 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: in this? 115 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 3: Well, it was actually brought up to me by constituents 116 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 3: and I kept hearing as I'm out knocking on doors. 117 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 3: And by the way, I represent Cyoda County as well 118 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 3: State Forest Shawnee State Forest is and we're known for 119 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 3: our horse trail riding and and our hiking and our 120 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 3: bicycles mountain biking, But no side by side, believe it 121 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 3: or not. So that's something that people in my district 122 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 3: really want to see. Hunters keep telling me, I got 123 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 3: to go over to Kentucky in West Virginia. 124 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 4: Why aren't we studying this? 125 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 3: So this didn't come from Columbus. 126 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 4: It really came from the ground up. 127 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I can't really speak to the need of 128 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: although I have a couple of side by sides. You 129 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: know what kind of land amount of land would be 130 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: necessary to create you know, an attractive you know atv 131 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: trail system. I know that they're not small. And then 132 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: how do you do that with the you know, without 133 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: interfering the normal use of whatever, you know, wherever something 134 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: like that would wind up, or if it's something that's 135 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: newly created. 136 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I get those concerns. I know some people 137 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 3: worry about environmental damage or I've had folks reach out 138 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 3: concerns about the horse trails, you know, concern that we're 139 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 3: going to turn the horse trails. 140 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 4: Into side by side riding. 141 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 3: That's not what we're going to be doing. I get 142 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 3: that concern. That's exactly why we're studying it. This is 143 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 3: really about a designated managed trail system. I mean, this 144 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 3: is going to be heavily policed. There's going to be 145 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 3: tight rules and regulations, helmets, you. 146 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 4: Can't have alcohol. I mean the kind of. 147 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 3: The kinds that protect our waterways, control the erosion, and 148 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 3: enforce all the strict rules. If you look at West Virginia, 149 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 3: that's the best example really in our nation. The Hatfield 150 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 3: McCoy trail system, Yeah, is extremely successful. I used to 151 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 3: work so I work at the railroad as well in Portsmouth, Ohio, 152 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 3: and I would take trains from Portsmouth, Ohio to Williamson, 153 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 3: West Virginia and that little town. If there wasn't side 154 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 3: by side trails. 155 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 4: And the railroad, it would be a ghost town. 156 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 3: And I found research that the Hatfield McCoy trails generate 157 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 3: about seventy million dollars a year to the West Virginia economy, 158 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 3: and so that's real money going into some of the 159 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 3: most rural counties here in Appalasia. I'm the co chair 160 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 3: of the Appalachian Caucus, and so that's what drives this 161 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 3: bill as well, to help our families, our small businesses, 162 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 3: the hotels, gas stations, restaurants, outfitters, great jobs because like 163 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 3: I said, right now, Ohio's are loading up their trucks 164 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 3: and they're crossing the state lines to spend that money, 165 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 3: and so let's keep some of those dollars here at home. 166 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 1: Well, I don't think there's any question question that this 167 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: that something like that would be popular in terms of, uh, 168 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: you know, a trail, in terms of a trail system 169 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: which would take a new purchase of property by the 170 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: state to get something done, because I don't you know, certainly, 171 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: and you know as well as I do that what 172 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: we currently you know, what it's a state park or 173 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: things like that. State lands they're not really suitable for 174 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: for something like that. 175 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 2: So, I, I mean, I. 176 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: Think that's a I think it's a hell of a 177 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: great idea. And you got to you got what roughly, 178 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: if you know, a third of the excuse me, a 179 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: quarter of the state, which would be south of East 180 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: Ohio that doesn't have a lot of potential or or 181 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 1: industry at this point in time. 182 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 4: Uh. 183 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: That so fun, you know, So additional revenue and traffic 184 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: can only be positive. Switching to elk, which I find 185 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 1: to be uh, probably most in favor of. 186 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 2: Well, I'm in favor of both. Put it that way. 187 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 5: You know. 188 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: I think I think we have the I think we 189 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: have the land, at least in my opinion. I've hunted 190 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: out west in the Rockies. The elk that are in 191 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: the east, they don't do the same things that they 192 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: do out west. They don't migrate three hundred miles out 193 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 1: of the high country, uh, to to the to the 194 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: to the low country in the winter. 195 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 5: You know. 196 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: Uh. And that's proven, that's been proven time again. So 197 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: l being, I guess transient across farmlands, I don't think 198 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: is the problem that people make it out to be. 199 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: That My producer says, I got to take a break, 200 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: so Justin you sit tight. 201 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 2: We'll be back with more. Justin presuming State Rep. 202 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: In District ninety here in south central Ohio, the Big 203 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: Outdoors News Radio seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati. 204 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 2: Lots of bugs are going around. It's time to stop 205 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 2: in the clubs. 206 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 5: Wash It's a public service announcement from seven hundred W l. 207 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 4: W and wash your hands. 208 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 6: Run a business and not thinking about radio think again. 209 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 2: L W Cincinnati. 210 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: One of my most important topics of the year is 211 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: at least in my opinion, is a Hottlese bill to 212 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: fund the necessary research to reintroduce ELK to the state 213 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: of Ohio and of course create some side by side 214 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 1: all porter perss vehicle trail systems, which that's a no 215 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: brainer personally. But I think you have some things to 216 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: say on this ELK reintroduction. 217 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 2: Justin. 218 00:12:58,960 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 4: I do. 219 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 3: I think you on a great point before the break, 220 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 3: and I just want to be really clear that nothing 221 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 3: in this legislation forces ELK onto private land. Nothing's going 222 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 3: to override property rights, and landowners aren't going to be 223 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 3: an afterthought here. They're central to the process and they're 224 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 3: they're written into the bills. But if a study showed 225 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 3: elk were what would cause unacceptable crop damage or fencing issues, 226 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 3: what have you, that would probably be the end of it. 227 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 3: But you don't do wildlife management to people. You've got 228 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 3: to do it with them. But I want to address 229 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 3: some of the concerns I've got pushback about, of course 230 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 3: from farmers and worrying about elk on their property, and 231 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 3: then from just constituents driving vehicles on the highway running 232 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 3: over elk or their price in the price of their 233 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 3: car insurance going up. So I just want to address that, 234 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 3: and I want to tell you what I think personally. 235 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 3: That's I don't think any of that will be the 236 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 3: case at all. I think that's merely speculation right now. 237 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 3: But I also can't back up that statement, because that's 238 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 3: why we need this scientific study. Sure, so I would 239 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:17,119 Speaker 3: argue that elk introduction is much different than our deer population. 240 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 3: These would be in very deep areas in Kentucky, West Virginia. 241 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 3: I'm not familiar with any examples where farmers have had 242 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 3: significant issues, mainly because the elk are going to stay 243 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 3: up in the hills, They're going to stay away from 244 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 3: the farmland. 245 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 4: Mostly. 246 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 3: Another concern I keep getting two is that will I 247 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 3: now be totaling my car hitting an elk on the highway? 248 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 3: And my answer to that is, again, elk or not deer. 249 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 3: It is probably more likely today to hit a bear 250 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 3: on the highway than it would be if we introduced elk. 251 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 3: Not saying that it would never happen again, but elk 252 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 3: are not going to be hanging around downtown in residential neighborhoods. 253 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 3: We're talking about the deep core of Appalachian Ohio, Wayne 254 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 3: National Shawnee State Forest, Hawking Hills, Zaliski State Forest in 255 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 3: Vinton County. These are the deepest parts of these of 256 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 3: these areas. And then people are worried about their car 257 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 3: insurance and they said, well, car insurance is so much 258 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 3: more expensive in Kentucky. And I said, that's a fair question, 259 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 3: but the fear doesn't really match reality because insurance is 260 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 3: not high in Kentucky because of elk. They are high 261 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 3: because Kentucky is a no fault insurance stace. Ohio isn't 262 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 3: at fault state. And so nothing in this bill changes 263 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 3: insurance law in that In that way, there's zero connection. 264 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 3: Ohio is always going to have cheaper insurance than in Kentucky. 265 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: I agree with you one hundred percent on all of this. 266 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: But you and we're talking also about parts of Ohio 267 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: that don't have a lot of ag culture. Okay, if 268 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: if hardly any at all. I mean, if anything, they're 269 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: running some livestock, uh you know, a few head of 270 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: cattle something like that, or they've just got a fence, 271 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: the fence of their property to keep the dog on 272 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: the property, versus you know, any any any anything else. 273 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: And you know, as I mentioned, deer in the east 274 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: or excuse me, elk in the East don't move and 275 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: migrate hundreds of miles like they do out west because 276 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: they have to out west for food. The East has 277 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: more food in its hills, uh than than you know, 278 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: all winter long. So it's just it's just it's but 279 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: people have to be convinced, and the insurance industry will 280 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: lobby against anything anyway, you know, period. 281 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 2: It's just the way it is. 282 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 3: Uh. 283 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: But I I'm sure that this will be a process. 284 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: So how long will this how how long will this 285 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: process take? 286 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 2: Do you think? 287 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 3: Well, we were in a lame duck session right now. 288 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 3: I'm introducing the bill to get the idea out there 289 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 3: and to get a good working bill. So I need 290 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 3: public input. So if listeners have ideas, please email your 291 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 3: ideas to Rep. Ninety at Ohio House dot go. We 292 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 3: would love to have your input. And this will go 293 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 3: through the House committee process and hopefully onto the floor, 294 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 3: and of course we'll have to go to the Senate 295 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 3: and then be signed. 296 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 4: By the governor. So it is a long process. 297 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 3: We're talking about years. 298 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: Well, I know a senator that's interested in the same thing, 299 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: and you probably do too, But you guys got to 300 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: get it done in the House first. So we'll see 301 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: what happens, and you keep me posted very closely. 302 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 3: I sure will thank you. 303 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 4: Chip. 304 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: All right with that, we got to hit a break 305 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 1: and back with more actually news you can use, I think, 306 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: at least I hope the Big Outdoors seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati, 307 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: home of the Reds and the best Bengals coverage. 308 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 3: Hey here you on the lookout for a new car 309 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 3: truck RESUV, Please visit my friends at Carry Automotive a 310 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 3: huge selection new pre dudes. 311 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: Radio seven hundred a WLW, Cincinnati. Just a few little items. 312 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: I can't remember if I'd mentioned these things before. Everything 313 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: gets to be a blur in my life, but ODNR 314 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: stocked thirty six million fish in twenty twenty five in 315 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: Ohio waters. That's fry fingerlings, advanced fingerlings, yearling fish, catchable 316 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 1: sized fish and for our put and take resource if 317 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: you happen to like fish or just catch fish. And 318 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: I think I might have mentioned this too, that Indiana 319 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: has a new state record gar coming down of the 320 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: Ohio River, caught by Justin Brown December thirtieth. It is 321 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: twenty three pounds twelve ounces. And let's see, would have 322 00:18:56,080 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: been down in Floyd County, down below Louisville. I believe 323 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: some were somewhere down there, but it's kind of unusual 324 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: to catch a guard during the winter. And what the hell, 325 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: that's a nice that's a nice catch. And congratulations to 326 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 1: Justin Brown. Will you kick me out of here, Danny, 327 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: I gotta go to the bathroom, Okay. 328 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 6: Anyway, Hi with that, Uh, everybody have a great weekend 329 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 6: out there, and uh, I'll be back with more in 330 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 6: another week as usual. 331 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: Gary jeff is next. I know Gary Jeffers next. So 332 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: have Budman his cast the character ship Hard at the 333 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,959 Speaker 1: Big Outdoors. News Radio seven hundred w l W Cincinnati, 334 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: Be safe. 335 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 2: In the woods than safe under water. With the new 336 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 2: IHAW Value Menu, six bucks is all it say.