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Speaker 4: without freezing to death.

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Speaker 4: the good vibes is Alec Lewis of the Athletic, who's

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Speaker 4: here to tell us that everything's falling apart An Egan,

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Speaker 4: how are you, sir?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a wild week of Vikings coverage.

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Speaker 2: How crazy? You know?

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Speaker 4: Because I remember just kind of after the season and

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Speaker 4: you have to probably go through these mental machinations as well,

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Speaker 4: like is there going to be like an you know,

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Speaker 4: the people want accountability, non playoff team. Sure, it's cool

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Speaker 4: that they win, you know, the final five to finish

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Speaker 4: with nine to eight. Now were arguing about how that

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Speaker 4: screwed us in the draft position and all of that,

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Speaker 4: but it was kind of thinking, like, what does accountability

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Speaker 4: look like for this situation? And a lot of people

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Speaker 4: have been, you know, critical of Chris Cooper, the O

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Speaker 4: line coach. His contract's not renewed, but throughout this time,

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Speaker 4: since they walked into the building, people have been critical

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Speaker 4: and it's been eyes on Quasi. And so if it

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Speaker 4: was gonna happen, I mean, I don't know if you

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Speaker 4: played this this game. Mentally, it's like, if it's gonna happen,

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Speaker 4: it's probably gonna happen this week. But then it doesn't. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean I think next week. You know what I

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Speaker 4: mean from a timing standpoint.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the season ended, and then I mean

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Speaker 3: the Wednesday of that week, the noise was very loud

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is like inside baseball. But like I

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Speaker 3: if I was going to get a text or call

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Speaker 3: And I usually am not a wake up early type

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Speaker 4: But anything you could think about, you're waking up and

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Speaker 3: They well, no, I mean it's it's it's it's you

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Speaker 3: for if this happens today? Then we got through that Wednesday, Thursday,

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Speaker 3: you're wondering there's something going to happen that early the

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Speaker 3: next week, and then Quaisia Doo Famensa had the press

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Speaker 3: And so I mean Friday morning last week when this happened,

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Speaker 3: Somebody inside the building, talking about everything that just happened,

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Speaker 3: have you and I can read your reporting?

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Speaker 4: Those listening to the fan, they can go to the

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Speaker 4: athletic there's probably some code popping around you walk around,

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Speaker 4: there's like codes following out of your pocket here for subscriptions.

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Speaker 4: But they can read kind of the process of just

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Speaker 4: picking apart all the details. But have you landed on

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Speaker 4: I guess of all the things, it's you know, was

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Speaker 2: They got along, they didn't get along. How responsible is

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Speaker 4: If we're putting a pie chart of collaborators together, this

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Speaker 4: In terms of trying to sum up how different things

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Speaker 3: And yeah, I didn't even mean to do that, but

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Speaker 3: at that at this time.

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Speaker 5: As far as you know, you could talk about the

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Speaker 3: that stuff plays a role at it. But but just

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Speaker 3: the accounting of those four years, they didn't get to

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Speaker 3: And then Rob Razinski his job will be to get

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Speaker 3: decisions that are made, and there will be no bigger

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Speaker 3: I've been watching film, a guy.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is a this is a tough one.

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Speaker 3: You love watching film though, I mean, yeah, you got

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Speaker 2: I want to speak for you.

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Speaker 4: This is not a judgmental thing, but I'm gonna say

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Speaker 4: you got some nerd to you in terms of a

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Speaker 4: genuine enjoyment to dig in and watch film.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a good thing. Did you feel bad?

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Speaker 3: I'm wearing glasses, I've got I'm losing hair one day

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Speaker 3: I'm sitting there watching Davis Mills film against the Los

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Speaker 2: It's just like, what are we doing? That's a bit much.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to watch any Kyler film personally.

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Speaker 5: It's more there. It pops a little more than you

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Speaker 3: And I'm not saying that that should be what they do,

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Speaker 3: because Lord have mercy. I wrote that this week and

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Speaker 3: there was a large response to that. But what I

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Speaker 3: would pose to you and everybody Brett, everybody watching the film, well, no,

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Speaker 3: is okay, so who do you want?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, this is an awful spot.

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Speaker 4: Which so in talking with Charge last hour about this

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Speaker 4: the weight of that burden. Okay, So what's actually different again?

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Speaker 4: And I hate to drill it into this pie chart.

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Speaker 4: effectively everything is the same.

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Speaker 2: And so without being in there, I can't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't know in terms of, you know, the quacy

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Speaker 4: deep if I'm wrong. But it's the idea of well,

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Speaker 4: Ko had to say in the quarterback spot a year ago,

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Speaker 4: he had probably had to say in it two years ago,

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Speaker 2: Is the same.

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Speaker 4: And and Brian flores his ability to identify talent, like, hey,

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Speaker 2: Take a peek at him. Potentially, those sorts of things.

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Speaker 4: I think those conversations take place, and that's the good

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Speaker 4: It turns into like eight people with the Spider Man

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Speaker 4: And that's just kind of stuck with me.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean, I think that's a very fair question.

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Speaker 3: More than anything, what I would imagine becomes different is

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Speaker 3: it's like a little tentative. Is that exactly what we wanted?

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Speaker 3: Who pushed that over the line. Now it's like we're

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Speaker 5: Like that's that would be what.

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Speaker 3: In my opinion, probably feels most different. So I mean,

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Speaker 3: Like like, let's take a step back, so you the

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Speaker 3: head coach who is the dubbed the quarterback whisper. All

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Speaker 3: a quarterback and we'll see what happened. No, Like, that's

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Speaker 3: not how that works at all, and remotely close to

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Speaker 3: in the end, when these decisions are made over the

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Speaker 3: next two months, that are massive decisions for this organization,

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Speaker 3: I would expect the feeling of everybody to be like,

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Speaker 3: pushed for the decision, and I feel good about this decision, which.

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Speaker 2: Does not mean that they're all going to work. Like,

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Speaker 2: let's be very.

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Speaker 4: Clear, that's I'm actually I'm really glad that you put

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Speaker 2: First of all, and we've talked about this all week.

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Speaker 3: And I think to a man internally and woman in turn,

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Speaker 4: short term thing. They brought in Matt Thomas, which I'm

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Speaker 4: kind of excited to learn more about, by the way,

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Speaker 4: because he was John Schneider's right hand man for a

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Speaker 4: decade and John Schneider what he's doing in Seattle's unbelievable,

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Speaker 4: so hopefully he caught some of that magic. But this

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Speaker 4: is kind of a downstream, long term thing where we

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Speaker 4: can't evaluate a short period of time for a long

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Speaker 4: period of time.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's why it's it's funny because it's like, you know,

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Speaker 3: these these decisions are going to be critical over the

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Speaker 3: next four months.

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Speaker 5: But when can you ever just you know, when.

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Speaker 3: You sign Ryan Kelly, Jonathan Allen and Will Fries and

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Speaker 3: it's you get an A plus grade for that, but

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Speaker 3: that doesn't that doesn't at the time, but then you

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Speaker 3: have to watch the season to realize it's not an

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Speaker 3: A plus grade.

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Speaker 2: It's a C grade.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's so, you know, I think the way

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Speaker 3: that ownership and the way I expect ownership to evaluate

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Speaker 3: it will be by May first, when all of these

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Speaker 3: decisions are made. How does everybody feel about the process

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Speaker 3: of making these decisions? And if you feel good about that,

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Speaker 3: I think that's where I think then you feel okay

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Speaker 3: with how this process went.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if I was to put again you know big moves.

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Speaker 4: I just used Joe Burrow as like kind of a

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Speaker 4: sky high lofty I'm sure you've heard, but you know

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Speaker 4: what I mean in terms of making big decisions.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with this mandate.

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Speaker 4: Any free agent picked up in the mid March has

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Speaker 4: to have played fourteen or more games the previous season.

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Speaker 3: Can we start with something like that to do like

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Speaker 3: the ten Commandments of free agent signings?

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Speaker 2: All right, Next, don't.

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Speaker 3: Sign thirty two years old plus No, Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 3: but here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: One or fewer concussions. But here's the thing.

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Speaker 3: You can say if a Minza contractually was responsible for

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Speaker 3: signing these players, but to remove the remove the the

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Speaker 3: idea that coaching didn't have an influence on all those signings,

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Speaker 3: I think it would not be correct. And so that's

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Speaker 3: what makes everything murky. To play revisionous.

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Speaker 2: History with no, I'm glad you put it that way.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna pause. It's Alec Lewis.

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Speaker 4: One more segment with him on the other side, and

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Speaker 4: we'll just kind of shoot the bleep.

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Speaker 2: We've got a Super Bowl on Sunday.

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Speaker 4: It's the QB we wanted in the draft apparently versus

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Speaker 4: the guy we had and let leave final segment nine

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Speaker 4: to doon his next.

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Speaker 2: Big Thanks Chad.

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Speaker 4: Greenway, Hugh Millen, Seahawks analyst for KJR Radio, Paul Charchion,

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Speaker 4: and and of course Alec Lewis of the Athletic and

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Speaker 4: Studio Now for joining the Friday Feast Super Bowl Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Our favorite teams not in it.

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Speaker 4: Seahawks favored four and a half five ish is what

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Speaker 4: I've seen over the last few days over the New

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Speaker 4: England Patriots.

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Speaker 6: So do you think it's gonna win. I think it's

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Speaker 6: the Seahawks. If I was to pick, I think the

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Speaker 6: Seahawks cover. I just the overall, the overall roster is better.

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Speaker 6: I think defensively, what they can do to confuse this

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Speaker 6: is by far the toughest matchup that Drake May has faced.

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Speaker 4: And uh and just kind of the combined poise. Is

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Speaker 4: the kid going to be poised? I don't want to

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Speaker 4: underwrite what Vrabel and Josh McDaniels have done to put

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Speaker 4: that thing together, but you think about the rookies on

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Speaker 4: the offensive line, you think about the kid QB and

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Speaker 4: just I think from an experience factor, you can say

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Speaker 4: from a coaching standpoint, it's there. But I just love

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Speaker 4: how everything's built with the Seahawks. I have the Seahawks winning.

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Speaker 3: I just wonder what my reaction would have been if

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Speaker 3: at joint practices you said that the Patriots are gonna

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Speaker 3: be in the super.

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Speaker 5: Bowl, Like I just I would have laughed that loud.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's crazy after watching those joints, right, and you know,

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Speaker 4: Drake May just kind of just a guy, right, I

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Speaker 4: mean in some ways it was like, okay, I mean,

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Speaker 4: nothing spectacular.

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Speaker 2: The arm talents.

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Speaker 4: It appears to be for real, no doubt about it,

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Speaker 4: but still just talent wise, like how is Vrabel going

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Speaker 4: to make that thing competitive? And we spent a lot

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Speaker 4: of time talking about it that week, and now here

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Speaker 4: they are. I mean, we've gotten a lot of the answers.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy. Garrett Bradberry starting center in the super Bowl. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't you. I remember leading up.

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Speaker 5: To drunk practice, as you said, Maye, I'm looking.

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Speaker 3: Forward to seeing Garrett Bradberry little did you know?

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Speaker 5: I do remember you said that were in the studio.

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Speaker 2: It'll be cool to catch up with Garrett.

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Speaker 3: And I was like, what, but he's a super Bowl

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Speaker 3: winning suit, not winning, maybe winning, So he's going to

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Speaker 3: start Super Bowl starting center.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And Vrabel, by all accounts, it's like they have a

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Speaker 4: right to go into this game and fluster Darnold.

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Speaker 2: Now that the Seahawks.

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Speaker 4: One thing that was a common threat all season is

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Speaker 4: you know, they're winning these games and fantastic team, but

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Speaker 4: they're giving the ball away a lot. YEA, Well, now

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Speaker 4: that's the thing they're not doing. They're not even turning

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Speaker 4: the ball over anymore. And so it is like they're

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Speaker 4: as well oiled as it gets at this stage. You know,

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Speaker 4: from an injury standpoint, it seems like most are going

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Speaker 4: in Other than that little ankle bit by Eman.

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Speaker 2: Worry, but he's going to be healthy.

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Speaker 3: They're just so balanced in every like it's on both sides. Defensively,

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Speaker 3: they stopped the run with not heavy boxes and their

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Speaker 3: secondary flies of the football. Offensively, you know, early in

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Speaker 3: the season it was explosive passing game, defenses shifted to

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Speaker 3: too high, so they started to run the ball well.

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Speaker 3: And now defense have come up and so they're throwing

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Speaker 3: the ball down the field again. It's just a really

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Speaker 3: well built, well constructed operation, and it's.

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Speaker 4: I just think it's going to look similar to in

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Speaker 4: some ways what the NFC title game. I think Sam's

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Speaker 4: gonna have to be. Yeah, he's going to have to

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Speaker 4: be super productive, explosive through the air. We were talking

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Speaker 4: about a charge. The defensive front for New England is

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Speaker 4: going to give Walker fits all day.

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Speaker 2: I love Milton Williams. I mean that guy is so good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and his church said, you know, nobody was really

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Speaker 4: paying attention to him during free agency. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 4: he was like a hundred million dollars. That's not true.

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Speaker 4: Everybody was the Panthers.

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Speaker 3: I think we're willing to pay him like thirty I

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Speaker 3: think he got thirty two million. It was like, and

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Speaker 3: you're like for Milton Williams. I know he was good

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Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl, but yeah, that that defense. It

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Speaker 3: should be fascinating if Sam does what he does what

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Speaker 3: he did in the NFC Championship again, I mean, there're

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Speaker 3: power more power to it a trophy.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for all your reporting, Thanks for hanging out today.

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Speaker 4: Man always fun the Alex Lewis Podcast, and no new

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Speaker 4: episodes popping up. You just did something with Johnny Kay,

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Speaker 4: Is that right too?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we did a little Vikings update crossover. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: a lot going on, trying to get some It is

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Speaker 3: the off season.

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Speaker 4: Right, I guess sort of kind of there is no

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Speaker 4: off season. I'm gonna go put my thirty year old

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Speaker 4: no Fear shirt on and we'll go from there. That's

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Speaker 4: Alec Lewis, Brett Blake more producing. Thank you to Brett,

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Speaker 4: and thank you for listening to a Friday Feast.

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Speaker 2: It's the Fan the grum Is.

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Speaker 4: Next, have an awesome weekend and enjoy the Game Podcast.

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