Speaker 1: Six seven hundred WLW or at long Necks Ed Wilder.
Speaker 1: It is the roundtable show Lance, but calister Rocky Boyman,
Speaker 1: let's jump right into it with our first guest, our
Speaker 1: regular he covers the Bengals for CLNS Sincy with Ay
Speaker 1: dot Com, host of the Jungle War podcast on YouTube,
Speaker 1: the man they referred to as Trags and Mike Petrellia.
Speaker 1: Imagine how easy it would have been and what it
Speaker 1: would have been like yesterday had Duke Tobin just walked
Speaker 1: into the room before Zach and said, guys, I know
Speaker 1: you're aware of the report. What questions can I answer
Speaker 1: about my coach, my quarterback and my team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know that's not the standard operating procedure
Speaker 2: down at pay Course Stadium and it never will be.
Speaker 2: It's just I mean, that's why you have to understand
Speaker 2: that part of Zach Taylor's job description is to answer
Speaker 2: questions to the media for the entire organization, be the
Speaker 2: face of the organization, if you will. And that's why
Speaker 2: he gets paid what he does by the Rods and
Speaker 2: Blackburns to handle, you know, the stuff when it hits
Speaker 2: the fan. And I will say, and I wrote this
Speaker 2: on COLNS sinc dot com.
Speaker 3: He handles it with great grace. He handles it with
Speaker 3: a smile.
Speaker 2: He doesn't get short with us for the most part,
Speaker 2: and when he does, he's still is pretty polite about it.
Speaker 2: But that still doesn't answer why he was given a
Speaker 2: two year or a five year extension again after the
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two season. Somebody would probably you would think,
Speaker 2: step forward from the organization and say, well, this is
Speaker 2: why we extended him twice in the period of two years.
Speaker 3: That's that answer is not going to be forthcoming. Obviously.
Speaker 2: I asked that question yesterday afternoon. Zach was not going
Speaker 2: to illuminate us as who came about and you know,
Speaker 2: it's just part of the reality of covering that beat
Speaker 2: and part of the reality of the way the Bengals
Speaker 2: do business.
Speaker 3: You accept it and move on.
Speaker 4: So not disclosing the contract would is still ridiculous, but okay, fine,
Speaker 4: but now it's there.
Speaker 3: It exists.
Speaker 4: The contract extension happened. You asked Zach Taylor about it,
Speaker 4: and he's not He can't comment on it like it's factual.
Speaker 4: It exists, Like like what was the in your opinion?
Speaker 4: Why was he reluctant to even answer.
Speaker 3: That because I don't.
Speaker 2: I think he feels like he was would be betraying
Speaker 2: the trust of the family that did you know that
Speaker 2: gave him the extension.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: And furthermore, I think he doesn't want to take the
Speaker 2: chance of speaking out of line, which he kind of
Speaker 2: alluded to, I don't want to speak for other people
Speaker 2: in the organization. Well if we don't get a chance
Speaker 2: to speak to other people in the organization. But just
Speaker 2: the reason he doesn't want to detail the contract that
Speaker 2: he signed is because he feels there's there was an
Speaker 2: agreement between himself, Blackburns and Duke Tobin. And the same
Speaker 2: can be said for Joe Burrow when he negotiated his
Speaker 2: mass of two hundred and seventy five million dollar contract extension.
Speaker 2: They managed to keep that pretty quiet. Jamar Chase and
Speaker 2: t Higgins. When Rocky Arsenal was negotiating that deal for
Speaker 2: his two clients with the team, again, the details were
Speaker 2: very very quiet, and the Bengals successfully over the years
Speaker 2: have kept things very close to the best.
Speaker 3: And that's just the way they like to do business.
Speaker 2: So Zach Taylor wasn't going to step out aligning with
Speaker 2: that motus upper.
Speaker 1: And die trags of everything interesting that Joe said yesterday.
Speaker 1: Was there one thing in particular that caught your ear
Speaker 1: more than others yesterday?
Speaker 2: Well, I think the obvious is that I think about
Speaker 2: a lot, or you think about a lot of things.
Speaker 2: He was speaking in third person when he said it.
Speaker 2: But Paul Dayner Junior did a fabulous job of asking
Speaker 2: him if he he's a world where he's not playing
Speaker 2: with the Bengals.
Speaker 3: Next year, and he said no, I don't.
Speaker 2: But going forward after that and saying, do you see
Speaker 2: a world where you could play for another team down
Speaker 2: the road, He's like, you think about a lot of things.
Speaker 3: And then Paul.
Speaker 2: Brought up the fact that you know, there's always seems
Speaker 2: to be blockbuster moves every once in a while in
Speaker 2: the NFL, even with the star quarterbacks, Dayton Manning with
Speaker 2: the Colts going to the Broncos, Tom Brady going from
Speaker 2: the Patriots.
Speaker 3: To the Buccaneers.
Speaker 2: And then you know, Joe Burrow brought up even this
Speaker 2: year with Micah Parsons being traded right before the season
Speaker 2: from Dallas to Green Bay. Stuff like that happens, As
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow said, crazy things happen.
Speaker 3: Well, rd between the lines.
Speaker 2: You don't have to be, you know, that much of
Speaker 2: a sleuth to understand that he could be referring to
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow down the road, and sure that could happen
Speaker 2: down the road if things fall apart, And you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to sit here and speculate that, oh,
Speaker 2: there's a could be a trade next year or a
Speaker 2: year after that. I'm not going to do that, And
Speaker 2: it'd be pretty naive and ridiculous to throw that out there.
Speaker 2: But if the Bengals don't take care of business, if
Speaker 2: they don't do what they need to this offseason to
Speaker 2: address the defense like they did after twenty twenty and
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, sure if anything's on the table.
Speaker 4: Attract I know Jamar Chase spoke on Joe Burrow's behalf
Speaker 4: about Joe Burrow, and you know, maybe some of the
Speaker 4: answers he gave it to questions, what is the general
Speaker 4: feeling of other members on the team about Joe Burrow?
Speaker 4: Has that changed at all? Do they have any other
Speaker 4: insights that they've shared recently with the struggles of the
Speaker 4: team and.
Speaker 3: Whatnot, Aside from what Jamar Chase said.
Speaker 2: After the game about you know, maybe he'd like to
Speaker 2: see changes going forward maybe that would could happen next year.
Speaker 2: He kind of walked that back a little bit today,
Speaker 2: saying that, you know, he loves the administration, loves the ownership.
Speaker 2: And I asked him, well, why do so many players
Speaker 2: stand up for this ownership and the front office?
Speaker 3: And he said because probably.
Speaker 2: The way the young players are treated, Shamar Stewart aside
Speaker 2: treated when they get to the organization, they're treated very well.
Speaker 3: They're treated with a lot of.
Speaker 2: Loyalty and care, and I guess that means a lot
Speaker 2: to the players.
Speaker 3: So Jamar Chase kind of walked that back.
Speaker 2: I thought a little bit today there was clearly a
Speaker 2: tone of I'm not going to go after anybody. That's
Speaker 2: not why I'm going to sit up here and take,
Speaker 2: you know, take questions. He also said something interesting today
Speaker 2: about you know, when you have a bad season like
Speaker 2: this year, it's all part of the journey.
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow said the same thing yesterday.
Speaker 2: A lot of players are repeating that, look, you have
Speaker 2: a terrible season. You don't want to go through a
Speaker 2: terrible season, but it's part of your journey in the NFL.
Speaker 2: And not every player gets to play on the twenty
Speaker 2: ten New England Patriots and have ten years of unprecedented success.
Speaker 3: The NFL is not built that way.
Speaker 2: Not every player gets to play on the Pat Mahomes
Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs of the last ten seasons.
Speaker 3: It's not realistic, and some of.
Speaker 2: The Bengals are, I think coming to a reality check
Speaker 2: in that regard.
Speaker 1: Treggs. Listen a minute. Are we going to see Schamar
Speaker 1: Stewart on Sunday? And if so, how important are these
Speaker 1: final three games for him and what the coaches see
Speaker 1: from him.
Speaker 2: So I was in the group in the scrum arounds
Speaker 2: from our Stuart and he said, Yep, I'm tracking to
Speaker 2: play on Sunday.
Speaker 3: I expect to play and I'm looking forward.
Speaker 2: To get back on the field because I've been through
Speaker 2: a lot this year.
Speaker 3: He's missed a lot of time. He wants to get
Speaker 3: that first career NFL sack, and he said. I was asked,
Speaker 3: does he have.
Speaker 2: A celebration in mind if indeed he gets that first sack?
Speaker 2: And he said, yeah, I think I'm thinking of something.
Speaker 2: But you can tell that Shamar Stewart has worked hard
Speaker 2: to get back to this point. Doc Taylor mentioned it
Speaker 2: yesterday in his press conference that he's been very diligent,
Speaker 2: and you know, give Shamar Stewart a lot of credit.
Speaker 3: He's been through a lot, from the.
Speaker 2: Contract negotiations before training camp began to the injuries to
Speaker 2: this point, I'd like to see him get on the
Speaker 2: field for the final three games and kind of get
Speaker 2: some momentum going for twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3: And I'm sure he would too.
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Speaker 2: CLS Sincy with a y dot com. You'll be getting
Speaker 2: a feature in terms of looking ahead to what's at
Speaker 2: stake also this weekend in Miami. I'll have that up
Speaker 2: sometime tomorrow. Also, you can follow my Jungle War podcast
Speaker 2: that's up on my YouTube page YouTube dot com slash
Speaker 2: Jungle War Pod and has always got those highlights and
Speaker 2: some of those clips from the locker room that's.
Speaker 3: Up on the x app. Trags t r Ags excellent stuff.
Speaker 3: As always, Thank you sir.
Speaker 2: All right, gentlemen, have a good one.
Speaker 3: He is Trags on the Bengals beat.
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