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Speaker 1: Six seven hundred WLW or at long Necks Ed Wilder.

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Speaker 1: It is the roundtable show Lance, but calister Rocky Boyman,

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Speaker 1: let's jump right into it with our first guest, our

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Speaker 1: regular he covers the Bengals for CLNS Sincy with Ay

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Speaker 1: dot Com, host of the Jungle War podcast on YouTube,

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Speaker 1: the man they referred to as Trags and Mike Petrellia.

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Speaker 1: Imagine how easy it would have been and what it

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Speaker 1: would have been like yesterday had Duke Tobin just walked

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Speaker 1: into the room before Zach and said, guys, I know

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Speaker 1: you're aware of the report. What questions can I answer

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Speaker 1: about my coach, my quarterback and my team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know that's not the standard operating procedure

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Speaker 2: down at pay Course Stadium and it never will be.

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Speaker 2: It's just I mean, that's why you have to understand

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Speaker 2: that part of Zach Taylor's job description is to answer

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Speaker 2: questions to the media for the entire organization, be the

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Speaker 2: face of the organization, if you will. And that's why

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Speaker 2: he gets paid what he does by the Rods and

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Speaker 2: Blackburns to handle, you know, the stuff when it hits

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Speaker 2: the fan. And I will say, and I wrote this

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Speaker 2: on COLNS sinc dot com.

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Speaker 3: He handles it with great grace. He handles it with

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Speaker 3: a smile.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't get short with us for the most part,

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Speaker 2: and when he does, he's still is pretty polite about it.

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Speaker 2: But that still doesn't answer why he was given a

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Speaker 2: two year or a five year extension again after the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two season. Somebody would probably you would think,

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Speaker 2: step forward from the organization and say, well, this is

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Speaker 2: why we extended him twice in the period of two years.

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Speaker 3: That's that answer is not going to be forthcoming. Obviously.

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Speaker 2: I asked that question yesterday afternoon. Zach was not going

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Speaker 2: to illuminate us as who came about and you know,

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Speaker 2: it's just part of the reality of covering that beat

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Speaker 2: and part of the reality of the way the Bengals

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Speaker 2: do business.

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Speaker 3: You accept it and move on.

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Speaker 4: So not disclosing the contract would is still ridiculous, but okay, fine,

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Speaker 4: but now it's there.

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Speaker 3: It exists.

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Speaker 4: The contract extension happened. You asked Zach Taylor about it,

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Speaker 4: and he's not He can't comment on it like it's factual.

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Speaker 4: It exists, Like like what was the in your opinion?

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Speaker 4: Why was he reluctant to even answer.

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Speaker 3: That because I don't.

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Speaker 2: I think he feels like he was would be betraying

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Speaker 2: the trust of the family that did you know that

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Speaker 2: gave him the extension.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And furthermore, I think he doesn't want to take the

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Speaker 2: chance of speaking out of line, which he kind of

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Speaker 2: alluded to, I don't want to speak for other people

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Speaker 2: in the organization. Well if we don't get a chance

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Speaker 2: to speak to other people in the organization. But just

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Speaker 2: the reason he doesn't want to detail the contract that

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Speaker 2: he signed is because he feels there's there was an

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Speaker 2: agreement between himself, Blackburns and Duke Tobin. And the same

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Speaker 2: can be said for Joe Burrow when he negotiated his

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Speaker 2: mass of two hundred and seventy five million dollar contract extension.

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Speaker 2: They managed to keep that pretty quiet. Jamar Chase and

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Speaker 2: t Higgins. When Rocky Arsenal was negotiating that deal for

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Speaker 2: his two clients with the team, again, the details were

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Speaker 2: very very quiet, and the Bengals successfully over the years

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Speaker 2: have kept things very close to the best.

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Speaker 3: And that's just the way they like to do business.

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Speaker 2: So Zach Taylor wasn't going to step out aligning with

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Speaker 2: that motus upper.

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Speaker 1: And die trags of everything interesting that Joe said yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Was there one thing in particular that caught your ear

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Speaker 1: more than others yesterday?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think the obvious is that I think about

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Speaker 2: a lot, or you think about a lot of things.

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Speaker 2: He was speaking in third person when he said it.

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Speaker 2: But Paul Dayner Junior did a fabulous job of asking

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Speaker 2: him if he he's a world where he's not playing

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Speaker 2: with the Bengals.

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Speaker 3: Next year, and he said no, I don't.

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Speaker 2: But going forward after that and saying, do you see

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Speaker 2: a world where you could play for another team down

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Speaker 2: the road, He's like, you think about a lot of things.

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Speaker 3: And then Paul.

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Speaker 2: Brought up the fact that you know, there's always seems

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Speaker 2: to be blockbuster moves every once in a while in

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Speaker 2: the NFL, even with the star quarterbacks, Dayton Manning with

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Speaker 2: the Colts going to the Broncos, Tom Brady going from

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Speaker 3: To the Buccaneers.

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Speaker 2: And then you know, Joe Burrow brought up even this

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Speaker 2: year with Micah Parsons being traded right before the season

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Speaker 2: from Dallas to Green Bay. Stuff like that happens, As

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow said, crazy things happen.

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Speaker 3: Well, rd between the lines.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to be, you know, that much of

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Speaker 2: a sleuth to understand that he could be referring to

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow down the road, and sure that could happen

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Speaker 2: down the road if things fall apart, And you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to sit here and speculate that, oh,

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Speaker 2: there's a could be a trade next year or a

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Speaker 2: year after that. I'm not going to do that, And

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Speaker 2: it'd be pretty naive and ridiculous to throw that out there.

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Speaker 2: But if the Bengals don't take care of business, if

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Speaker 2: they don't do what they need to this offseason to

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Speaker 2: address the defense like they did after twenty twenty and

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, sure if anything's on the table.

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Speaker 4: Attract I know Jamar Chase spoke on Joe Burrow's behalf

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Speaker 4: about Joe Burrow, and you know, maybe some of the

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Speaker 4: answers he gave it to questions, what is the general

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Speaker 4: feeling of other members on the team about Joe Burrow?

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Speaker 4: Has that changed at all? Do they have any other

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Speaker 4: insights that they've shared recently with the struggles of the

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Speaker 3: Whatnot, Aside from what Jamar Chase said.

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Speaker 2: After the game about you know, maybe he'd like to

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Speaker 2: see changes going forward maybe that would could happen next year.

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Speaker 2: He kind of walked that back a little bit today,

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Speaker 2: saying that, you know, he loves the administration, loves the ownership.

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Speaker 2: And I asked him, well, why do so many players

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Speaker 2: stand up for this ownership and the front office?

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Speaker 3: And he said because probably.

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Speaker 2: The way the young players are treated, Shamar Stewart aside

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Speaker 2: treated when they get to the organization, they're treated very well.

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Speaker 3: They're treated with a lot of.

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Speaker 2: Loyalty and care, and I guess that means a lot

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Speaker 2: to the players.

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Speaker 3: So Jamar Chase kind of walked that back.

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Speaker 2: I thought a little bit today there was clearly a

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Speaker 2: tone of I'm not going to go after anybody. That's

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Speaker 2: not why I'm going to sit up here and take,

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Speaker 2: you know, take questions. He also said something interesting today

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Speaker 2: about you know, when you have a bad season like

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Speaker 2: this year, it's all part of the journey.

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Speaker 3: Joe Burrow said the same thing yesterday.

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Speaker 2: A lot of players are repeating that, look, you have

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Speaker 2: a terrible season. You don't want to go through a

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Speaker 2: terrible season, but it's part of your journey in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: And not every player gets to play on the twenty

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Speaker 2: ten New England Patriots and have ten years of unprecedented success.

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Speaker 3: The NFL is not built that way.

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Speaker 2: Not every player gets to play on the Pat Mahomes

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Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs of the last ten seasons.

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Speaker 3: It's not realistic, and some of.

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Speaker 2: The Bengals are, I think coming to a reality check

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Speaker 2: in that regard.

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Speaker 1: Treggs. Listen a minute. Are we going to see Schamar

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Speaker 1: Stewart on Sunday? And if so, how important are these

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Speaker 1: final three games for him and what the coaches see

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Speaker 1: from him.

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Speaker 2: So I was in the group in the scrum arounds

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Speaker 2: from our Stuart and he said, Yep, I'm tracking to

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Speaker 2: play on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: I expect to play and I'm looking forward.

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Speaker 2: To get back on the field because I've been through

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Speaker 2: a lot this year.

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Speaker 3: He's missed a lot of time. He wants to get

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Speaker 3: that first career NFL sack, and he said. I was asked,

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Speaker 3: does he have.

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Speaker 2: A celebration in mind if indeed he gets that first sack?

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Speaker 2: And he said, yeah, I think I'm thinking of something.

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Speaker 2: But you can tell that Shamar Stewart has worked hard

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Speaker 2: to get back to this point. Doc Taylor mentioned it

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Speaker 2: yesterday in his press conference that he's been very diligent,

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Speaker 2: and you know, give Shamar Stewart a lot of credit.

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Speaker 3: He's been through a lot, from the.

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Speaker 2: Contract negotiations before training camp began to the injuries to

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Speaker 2: this point, I'd like to see him get on the

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Speaker 2: field for the final three games and kind of get

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Speaker 2: some momentum going for twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: And I'm sure he would too.

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Speaker 1: Traig's Your Price of Staying the course is a must

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Speaker 1: read for those who want to read, watch, and follow.

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Speaker 3: Tell them how they can do that.

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Speaker 2: CLS Sincy with a y dot com. You'll be getting

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Speaker 2: a feature in terms of looking ahead to what's at

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Speaker 2: stake also this weekend in Miami. I'll have that up

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Speaker 2: sometime tomorrow. Also, you can follow my Jungle War podcast

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Speaker 2: that's up on my YouTube page YouTube dot com slash

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Speaker 2: Jungle War Pod and has always got those highlights and

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Speaker 2: some of those clips from the locker room that's.

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Speaker 3: Up on the x app. Trags t r Ags excellent stuff.

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Speaker 3: As always, Thank you sir.

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Speaker 2: All right, gentlemen, have a good one.

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Speaker 3: He is Trags on the Bengals beat.

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Speaker 1: We'll take a time out, get a check on news

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Speaker 1: and get back into a Zach Taylor conversation. If we

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