1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: Is it nine to thirty yet? 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 2: Huh? 3 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: Wait? 4 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 2: I can leave my radio WAF till nine twenty nine 5 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 2: and then turn it on at nine. 6 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 3: Thirty, or is it I have to stay listening till 7 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 3: my thirty I'm confused. 8 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: Is it nine thirty? 9 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 4: Nye thirty nine thirty? 10 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: Bye? It's been a week. 11 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 4: May almost it was Wednesday? 12 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 5: Oh? 13 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: Was it wednesday? Yeah? Okay, well we we haven't heard 14 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: earballs yet. 15 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 5: I'm very surprised on that. 16 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 6: I expect anybody. And by the way, that's a good 17 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 6: rule of engagement too. We need him to redo his. 18 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: Well for sure. 19 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 7: Speaking of the rules of engagement, Dawn, you just left 20 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 7: three talkbacks to leave rules of engagements and filled up 21 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 7: all thirty seconds of each, So that means it's going 22 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 7: to be longer than the sixty No, go, my friend, 23 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 7: try and redo it to just two talkbacks, please and 24 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 7: thank you. 25 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: All right, so let's go back to. 26 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 6: And there's there's a very specific reason why we've allowed 27 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 6: this to happen, and we're seeing that played out in 28 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 6: real time right now with the government shut down. Because 29 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 6: Democrats believe that they can use all the entitlement programs 30 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 6: that we have, which accounts for way more than fifty 31 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 6: percent of the annual operating budget the federal government. Most 32 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 6: of the federal government's budget is just transfer of money 33 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 6: from hard working taxpayers to other people. Not all are 34 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 6: not just bums. They're not all just people that you know. 35 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 6: You have retirees, you have you know, social Security, you 36 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 6: have disability, you have Medicare, Medicaid transfer payments, transfer payments, 37 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:50,279 Speaker 6: and when you have that, you create a working class. 38 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 6: You actually can kind of destroy the middle class, but 39 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 6: you create a working class that at some point becomes 40 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 6: resentful of the fact that you know, you're schlubbing away 41 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 6: to work, you're working your butt off, you're doing everything 42 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 6: that you're supposed to do to take care of yourself 43 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 6: and your family, while others do not. And then when 44 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 6: you look at your withholding, you realize that everything that 45 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 6: you pay in federal taxes and for that matter of 46 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 6: state taxes is still not enough to cover all of 47 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 6: the transfer payments. So then we have to go borrow. 48 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 6: And when we borrow, that reduces the value of the 49 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 6: dollar and oftentimes means that the debt grows larger and larger. 50 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 6: Doesn't often it always means the debt's going to grow larger, larger, 51 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 6: and larger, which means that your children, your grandchildren, your 52 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 6: great grandchildren, your great great grandchildren, and assuming that the 53 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 6: Republic survives that long, that they'll have to pay absolutely 54 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 6: unbelievably burdens some taxes in order to deal with that, 55 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 6: or will default and will be like Argentina was going 56 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 6: to be until my life came on and started fixing everything. 57 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 6: Then that fits into the Cloward Pivets strategy, because you 58 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 6: have overwhelmed the system and this is now. I truly 59 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 6: believe that one. I think Democrats, I sincerely believe Democrats 60 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 6: are responsible for this shutdown, primarily because Democrats in the 61 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 6: House joined with Republicans and so there was bipartisan spport 62 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 6: in the House of Representatives for this clean continuing resolution. 63 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 6: They send it to the Senate because the Senate has 64 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 6: the filibuster rule, which requires sixty votes to shut down debate. 65 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 6: They can't get the sixty votes because Democrats won't vote 66 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 6: for this. Because Democrats have believed, and they've always they've 67 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 6: assumed that you know what's that past performance is not 68 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 6: always indicative of future performance. Well, they believe that past 69 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 6: performances Republicans always get blamed for the shutdown, they'll get 70 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 6: blamed for the shutdown again. So we're not going to 71 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 6: vote for this. Besides, we don't want to keep things 72 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 6: at and here's the key, we don't want to keep 73 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 6: things at the level of spending that Biden was spending, 74 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 6: which is exactly the same level. You know, if Biden 75 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 6: was spending one hundred dollars a year, this continuing Resolution 76 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 6: still spends one hundred dollars a year. Now, they may 77 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 6: have changed some of the priorities, but the dollar amount 78 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 6: of spending stays the same. It is a constant amount. 79 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 6: There's no reduction in federal spending year. If you thought, oh, 80 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 6: since Republicans have control of the government, why they might 81 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 6: actually do spending haah, you idiot, How foolish of you 82 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 6: to think that. So Democrats believe once again we can 83 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 6: blame the Republicans, and even the Cabal will do that. 84 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 5: Well. 85 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 6: Interestingly, the Cabal is even beginning to back off and say, 86 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 6: because of the snap and the a, the whole food 87 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 6: stamp issue, they're becoming panic stricken. They're becoming panic stricting 88 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 6: because the Cabal knew long before that it was the 89 00:04:54,720 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 6: Democrats that were preventing the the invoking of stopping the 90 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 6: debate so they can have a vote on this continuing resolution, 91 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 6: which if they just sixty votes to invoke cloture to 92 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 6: stop debate, you then only need a simple majority to 93 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 6: pass this clean resolution. So that's the procedural part that 94 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 6: we're at right now now. Insofar as abdicating your compassion 95 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 6: to the government, I've said that for years and then 96 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 6: Friday night, I'm just I don't know. Well, we've gotten 97 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 6: back so I'm able to watch the you know, the 98 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 6: six five point thirty or six o'clock. 99 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: Version of katiev R's evening News, and I. 100 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 8: Hear this business owner says that he is taking the 101 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 8: problem of food insecurity into his own hands while the 102 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 8: government remains shut down. 103 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 9: At Fox Early Won's Ashley Michaels took a trip up 104 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 9: to Ford Collins to see what he's doing and the 105 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 9: impact it's having on the community. 106 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 10: Fridly nixt Butcher is not a food pantry. 107 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 4: It's a small business. 108 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 10: But right now they're giving away some of their products 109 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 10: for free. 110 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 2: Duat or a whole animal but your shop. We break 111 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 2: down whole animals, pork, beef and chicken. 112 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 10: The sausages and steaks have become a staple for customers, 113 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 10: and it's hard that now has people lining up at 114 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 10: Friendly Nicks. 115 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 2: It's frustrating for me to watch people go through food 116 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 2: and security, especially with my background where I've always cooked 117 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 2: for people. 118 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 4: His idea started small. 119 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 2: I thought I could take five hundred bucks and like, 120 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 2: I have access to me at wholesale prices, so I 121 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 2: can stretch out a lot farther than people would at 122 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 2: the grocery store. And I thought I could make I 123 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 2: don't know, fifty bags of meat, and. 124 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 10: He posted on Facebook chicken, beef, pork and eggs free 125 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 10: for federal workers who aren't getting paid, and anyone on 126 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 10: Snap do. 127 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 4: You have your Snap card? And the response, he says, 128 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 4: has been eye opening. 129 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 2: The emotion on people's face when they get that and 130 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 2: they're how much like it really has. 131 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 5: To help them. It's amazing. 132 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 2: It's a great feeling, but it's also like, why is 133 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 2: it my job to do this? 134 00:06:58,200 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 5: Like it shouldn't be the government should be doing this. 135 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 10: Friendly Nicks has already given out about four hundred bags 136 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 10: of food before running out Friday afternoon. 137 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 5: I'm happy that I can help. 138 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 2: It's like disheartening to see you hear that there are 139 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 2: forty two million people on Snap until they lined up 140 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 2: outside your door, you know, to put a face to that. 141 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 4: Sorry, it's hard. Now the community is pitching into help. 142 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 10: As of Friday, a gofund me had already raised about 143 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 10: thirty thousand dollars. Nick says that money is now funding 144 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 10: a big movement. His small business didn't plan to start all. 145 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: This money that we have. We're gonna keep putting out 146 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: these little packages even after the government's reopened, even after 147 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: Snap gets funded again. 148 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 5: That way people can hopefully have a little bit relieved. 149 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 4: That go fundme is still active. 150 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 10: If you'd like to help, we have a link to 151 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 10: it on our web. 152 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 6: Okay, he said. He said the quiet part out loud 153 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 6: that most people want to ignore. 154 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 5: Why is it my job to do this like it shu? 155 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 5: The government should be doing this friendly wow. 156 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 6: And admission that. Now, let's back up a little bit, 157 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 6: he said. I can take five hundred dollars. I can 158 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 6: take five hundred dollars because I have access to wholesale 159 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 6: prices for meat, so I can make that go further 160 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 6: than the average person could at a grocery store. So 161 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 6: I'm gonna take the five hundred dollars and I'm gonna 162 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 6: make small bags of meat checking eggs, and then I'm 163 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 6: going to give those away to federal workers. Show me 164 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 6: a federal ID or show me that you have a 165 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 6: snap card, and I will give you a small package 166 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 6: of food for free, well without cost to you. He's 167 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 6: paying for it obviously five hundred dollars. But then after saying, 168 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 6: you know, makes me mad that I'm doing this. The 169 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 6: government should be doing this. Now he's doing what he 170 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 6: started to go fund me, and he's going to continue 171 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 6: to do that post reopening of the federal government. Now 172 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 6: I don't know this guy from Adam. He's doing a 173 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 6: great thing, and in fact, he's now recognizing that, oh 174 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 6: wait a minute, I could keep doing this. I can 175 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 6: take five hundred dollars out of my business. You know, 176 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 6: it's probably not going to kill his business or kill 177 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 6: his profit. It is five hundred dollars. But he's doing something, 178 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 6: by the way, that would be tax deductible too, so 179 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 6: he can take that five hundred dollars off. It's certainly 180 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 6: part of his cost of doing business, so he can 181 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 6: reduce his his profit. He can reduce his income by 182 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 6: five hundred dollars by doing this, but then he started 183 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 6: to go fund me and now he's going to continue 184 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 6: it past the shut down. Well, then why are you 185 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 6: upset about and why are you claiming that this responsibility 186 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 6: of the government to do this when you're doing it yourself. 187 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 6: It really isn't the responsibility of the government. 188 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 2: It's amazing, it's a great feeling, but it's also like, 189 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 2: why is it my job to do this? 190 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 5: Like it shouldn't be the government should be doing this. 191 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 4: Friendly neck. 192 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 6: See, this is where he and I are miles apart. 193 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 6: He's way over here on one side and I'm way 194 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 6: over here on the other side. Now, what's the name 195 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 6: of this place? Nick's Booker's, Nick's butcher, and Fort Collins. 196 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 6: If every individual, if every person that owns a business, 197 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 6: whether it's a butcher shop or anything else, if we 198 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 6: all decided that it was not the role of the government, 199 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 6: because government can't be compassionate, and government is obviously think 200 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 6: about this, think about the economics, and they value the 201 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 6: five hundred dollars that he spends to put a little 202 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 6: bag of food together. So he takes five hundred dollars 203 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 6: out of the till. Now with that he's got to 204 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 6: buy a little extra meat, or just take whatever meat 205 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 6: he currently has, and he's going to take that. He 206 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 6: already has the cost of the bags and the wrapping 207 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 6: paper and everything else, because that's what he does. He 208 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 6: packages meat to give to people that come in and 209 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 6: pay for it. So when he takes five hundred dollars 210 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 6: and sets that aside and then puts that in bags 211 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 6: that he's already purchasing, now he might have to increase 212 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 6: the number of bags that he purchases, particularly with the 213 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 6: go fundme, which means that his cost may increase. But 214 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 6: oh he's got to go fund me, he can actually 215 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 6: offset that cost. The point being this, if he takes 216 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 6: five hundred dollars and he's buying meat at wholesale, he's 217 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 6: getting more than five hundred dollars worth of meat that 218 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 6: would sell it retail. So his dollar, his five hundred dollars, 219 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 6: is more than just one hundred percent efficient. It's actually 220 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 6: more than one hundred percent efficient because he's got it 221 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 6: at a lower cost and he has no distribution costs. 222 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 6: He has his sacks and his wrapper, which he is 223 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 6: already purchasing, so he might have a little bit of 224 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 6: a delta not much, but a slight doesn't increase the 225 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 6: cost there, and then people come to him and get it. 226 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 6: He has no distribution issues, he has no additional cost. 227 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 6: That is the most efficient way to provide to people. 228 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 6: Whereas if I gave five hundred dollars, I pay five 229 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 6: hundred dollars in taxes to the federal government. It gets 230 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 6: eaten up by all of the administrative costs, It gets 231 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 6: eaten up by paying the salaries and the benefits and. 232 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: Everything else of all of all. 233 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 6: Of the employees that handle that five hundred dollars that 234 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 6: I pay in taxes, and then it gets sent down 235 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 6: to the states, and then they eat up some of 236 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 6: what's left of the five hundred dollars. Then they eat 237 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 6: some of that up with all of their personnel costs 238 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 6: and their benefits, and then they spread it out and 239 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 6: it goes into a local food bank. And the local 240 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 6: food bank has its costs, particularly if it's one that 241 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 6: is operating. I know it's nonprofit, but they may still 242 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 6: pay people to do Now they have volunteers, but they 243 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 6: also have paid people, so they pay them. So all 244 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 6: of that five hundred dollars gets whittled down and finished 245 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 6: finally gets to we're going to go purchase something. I 246 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 6: know the government has huge purchasing power, but you've already 247 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 6: limited that five hundred dollars total less than five hundred dollars. Now, 248 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 6: I'm I'm befuddled. I'm truly befuddled. If he thinks let's 249 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 6: stop and analyze what he said for a moment. If 250 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 6: he really thinks he's mad because he has to be 251 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 6: doing this and it's the responsibility of the federal government 252 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 6: that I'd have a sible question for him, then why 253 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:20,719 Speaker 6: are you continuing to do it? 254 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: Why? 255 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 3: Why? 256 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 6: Why'd you start to gofund me? You got, you got 257 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 6: a lot of native advertising. Why KATVR has run this 258 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 6: story selling their website. I mentioned the name of the 259 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 6: company a dozen times now, Nick's Butcher Butcher. I announced 260 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 6: it to three hundred and fifty stations all across the 261 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 6: country yesterday or Saturday, and now I've announced it to 262 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 6: all of you all over the country, and again all 263 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 6: the local audience. Nicks Butcher in Fort Collins, Yeah, if 264 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 6: I were near Fort Collins, I go and I'd buy something. 265 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 266 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 6: Even though his politics may be the exact opposite of mine, 267 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 6: I don't know. 268 00:13:58,160 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: I don't care. 269 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 6: And you know why I don't care, because he's doing 270 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 6: what we should all be doing, and that's taking care 271 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 6: of each other and not asking the federal government to 272 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 6: do it. The government is inefficient, it's ineffective, and then 273 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 6: when it shuts down, then we have all of this 274 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 6: commotion that is completely and totally unnecessary. But Democrats want that. 275 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 6: The Democrats truly want this. Oh they'll deny it. They'll 276 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 6: talk about the starving children, that distant, the babies, people 277 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 6: are gonna die of starvation, YadA, YadA, YadA. They're gonna 278 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 6: go on that until ad infinitum, ad nauseum. They're gonna 279 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 6: keep doing. 280 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: It when all they have to do is five of. 281 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 6: Them joined with the Republicans and vote to end debate, 282 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 6: and then the Republicans can pass the bill, you know, 283 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 6: fifty to fifty. 284 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: JD. 285 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 6: Vans can step in as the vice president, break the 286 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 6: tie fifty one to fifty and boom, you've got it done. 287 00:14:56,040 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 6: Or the Democrats one democrat are just a sorry. All 288 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 6: Republican senators could vote for the bill, pass it fifty 289 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 6: three to forty seven, and boom, it's over with. So 290 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 6: the Democrats are the ones that are keeping the government 291 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 6: shut down because the dirty little secret is they want 292 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 6: people to be hungry, they want people to be stressed out, 293 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 6: they want people to get mad because they believe that 294 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 6: that anger is going to be directed toward Republicans. So 295 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 6: they're using politics. They're using hunger and food as a 296 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 6: political weapon to try to get what they want. And 297 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 6: what they want is a Halloween bag full of candy 298 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 6: of things that are not in the Continuing Resolution, but 299 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 6: which they want to add and even increase the spending 300 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 6: above and beyond what Biden was spending. 301 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: And in hopes. 302 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 6: When I played the stories Friday, Thursday and Friday on 303 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 6: this program last week about the people complaining that, you know, 304 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 6: they can't feed their kids, they can't get the snacks, 305 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 6: they're gonna start stealing, and when woman did a TikTok 306 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 6: video where she actually showed us what she stole from 307 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 6: the grocery store. The Democrats, they'll never admit this publicly, 308 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 6: but they want that to happen. They want the absolute 309 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 6: collapse of society because when they get that kind of 310 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 6: collapse and that kind of overwhelming of the system, that 311 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 6: means that people, including conservatives, will start clamoring for Oh 312 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 6: my gosh, somebody get control of this. Somebody take charge, 313 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 6: Somebody impose law and order, somebody shut this down, and 314 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 6: pretty soon now you're in tyranny, and Cloward Piven has 315 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 6: been fulfilled. That's what's going on. That's exactly what's going on. 316 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 6: But when I say, as I've said for years, that 317 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 6: the reason we're in this situation is because too many 318 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 6: people don't want to take either the let me be objective, 319 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 6: let me be honest here. Some people can't afford to 320 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 6: tithe to their church, or to give ten percent or 321 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 6: whatever it is to a charitable organization, or to give 322 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 6: anything because they're so tapped out. And I'm not going 323 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 6: to sit here and try to rationalize every single circumstance. 324 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 6: But some people pay. If you knew what I paid 325 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 6: in taxes and then realize that if I had even 326 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 6: half that money back, I could substantially increase what I 327 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 6: give to charitable organizations. But I don't because I give 328 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 6: based on what I can afford, based upon my lifestyle, 329 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 6: knowing how much the government's going to take out of 330 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 6: my paycheck every week, or that if I sell some stock, 331 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 6: but the capital gains is going to be on that stock. 332 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 6: I calculate all of that income so that I know 333 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 6: where I am financially, and it limits what I can do. 334 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 6: It doesn't just limit what I can do in terms 335 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 6: of jeditable organizations. It limits what I can do just 336 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 6: in terms of a consumer economy and consume. 337 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: So I don't consume, I. 338 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 6: Still invest that that could increase. Also, we do it 339 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 6: to ourselves, and you know it. 340 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: Michael Freendy. 341 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 11: Nick Butcher has got it right the way charity was 342 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 11: taken care of for eons before the government decided to 343 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 11: mark it all up. And not only is he doing 344 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 11: it right, that is the best meat I have ever eaten. 345 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 11: I have shot there and it is so good. 346 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 6: I was going to move on, but your comment, your 347 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 6: talk back, I'm I'm not sure I agree with you. 348 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 6: Listen to it again and this time when you hear 349 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 6: him speak, listen to him get emotional when he talks 350 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 6: about the people showing up. 351 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: Pops, I'm sorry, get it said. Double click there, Michael. 352 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: Listening to something else here we. 353 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 8: Go is that he is taking the problem of food 354 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 8: insecurity into his own hands while the government remains shut down. 355 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 9: At Fox Early Won's Ashley Michaels took a trip up 356 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 9: to Fort Collins to see what he's doing and the 357 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 9: impact it's having on the community. 358 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 4: Friendly Nick's Butcher is not a food pantry. It's a 359 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 4: small business, but. 360 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 10: Right now they're giving away some of their products for free. 361 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 2: We're a whole animal butcher shop. We break down whole animals, pork, beef, 362 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 2: and chicken. 363 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 10: The sausages and steaks have become a staple for customers. 364 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 10: But it's hard that now has people lining up at 365 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 10: Friendly Nicks. 366 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 2: It's frustrating for me to watch people go through food insecurity. 367 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 6: Now, I believe him, just frustrating for me to see that. 368 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 6: I also recognize that we have way too many people 369 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 6: who've become dependent upon that and there is no incentive, 370 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 6: no incentive to get off. In fact, the incentive lies 371 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 6: with just like in the homelessness industry, the incentive lies 372 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 6: with you know, for example, the Trailhead Institute, the fewer 373 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 6: people on snap or wig, the less money they receive, 374 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 6: the less likely they can stay in business. And then 375 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 6: that's true for all of their partners that they then 376 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 6: dole the money out to those people, so it becomes 377 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 6: a self fulfilling prophecy. They want to keep hungry people 378 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 6: around so that they can stay in business. They're not 379 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 6: trying to in they're not trying to get people out 380 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 6: of hunger. They're not trying to get people away from food, 381 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 6: deserts or whatever you want to however you want to 382 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 6: phrase it. Because their very livelihood depends upon it, they're disincentivized. 383 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 2: Especially with my background where I've always. 384 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: Cooked for people. 385 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:11,479 Speaker 4: His idea started small. 386 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 2: I thought I could take five hundred bucks and like, 387 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 2: I have access to me at wholesale prices, so I 388 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 2: can stretch out a lot farther than people would at 389 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 2: the grocery store, and I thought I could make I 390 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:22,360 Speaker 2: don't know, fifty bags of meeting. 391 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 10: He posted on Facebook chicken, beef, pork and eggs free 392 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 10: for federal workers who aren't. 393 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 4: Getting paid and anyone on snap do you have your 394 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 4: ear snap card? And the response, he says, has been 395 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 4: eye opening. 396 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 2: The emotion on people's face when they get that and 397 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 2: they're how much like they really has helped them. 398 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 1: He's starting to get emotional. 399 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 6: Well good because he's seen and this is what this 400 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 6: is why may get lost in my conversation about this, 401 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 6: I actually feel sorry for people that are struggling to 402 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 6: put food on the table. But I also you can 403 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 6: have these You can have these two thoughts in your 404 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 6: head simultaneously, and that is you can feel sorry for them. 405 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 6: You can have empathy and even sympathy for them, and 406 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 6: you can want to do something for them at the 407 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 6: same time that you recognize that we've created this problem, 408 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 6: if we've exacerbated the problem. I don't think he ever 409 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 6: quite gets there. 410 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 5: It's amazing. It's a great feeling, but it's also. 411 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: Like it it's a great feeling, but you know my 412 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: rule about but. 413 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, your new haircut looks really good, but 414 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 6: I think I would do this this or that. You 415 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 6: know that that shirt looks really good, but you know 416 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 6: it gives me a really good feeling. 417 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 2: But I is from my job to do this, like 418 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 2: it shouldn't be the government should be doing this. 419 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 4: Friendly Nick, just let. 420 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 6: That simmer for a moment. He believes that, well, it 421 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 6: makes him feel good, and I acknowledge that makes him 422 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 6: feel good. He doesn't believe he should be doing it. 423 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 6: I don't think you should be forced to do it either. 424 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 6: He's doing this because he has, as he says, I've 425 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 6: always been around, you know, cooking and feeding people. That's 426 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 6: my profession and so that's what I chose to do. 427 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 6: But but it's not my job. I'm doing it because 428 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 6: it makes me feel good. 429 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 10: Already given out about four hundred bags of food before 430 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 10: running out Friday afternoon. 431 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 5: I'm happy that I can help. It's like disheartening to 432 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 5: see you hear that there are forty two. 433 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 2: Million people on step until they line up outside your door. 434 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: Hmm. 435 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 6: There's really something insightful that I don't think he realizes. 436 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 6: He said, So, we've got forty two million people or 437 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 6: whatever the number is on food stamps snap. But you 438 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 6: never think about that because one that's hidden from you. 439 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 6: It's hidden, and we've made it so that it remains hidden. 440 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 6: So unless you're looking, when the person in front of 441 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 6: you is paying for their groceries, how they're paying for 442 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 6: their groceries, you don't know. So it becomes a nameless, 443 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 6: faceless bureaucracy, a nameless, faceless problem. So it's really easy. 444 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 6: It's very easy for people to say, well, yeah, that's 445 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 6: you know, it's not it's not my job. That's the 446 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 6: government's job. I pay my taxes, I expect the government 447 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 6: to go do that. Well, guess what your taxes don't 448 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 6: You don't pay. You do not pay enough taxes to 449 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 6: pay for all of the stuff that we're spending money on. 450 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 6: You're not, and that's going to destroy the republic. And 451 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 6: you're actually with your tax dollars, you're actually supporting and 452 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 6: incentivizing organizations like the Trailhead Institute, just like you do 453 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 6: with any of it. With the homeless industry, it's the 454 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 6: same thing here. We create these so called air quote 455 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 6: here industry trees that only survive as long as they 456 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 6: have people that they can designate as homeless or hungry. 457 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 6: And when they can do that, the government will continue 458 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 6: to feed them, and Democrats will continue to con sorry, 459 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 6: politicians of all stripes will continue to campaign on I'm 460 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 6: going to get this more and more money for this 461 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 6: program because we have more and more people that are hungry, 462 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 6: we have more people that are homeless. We are self 463 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 6: fulfilling prophecies by disincentivizing anything or incentivizing anybody to get 464 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 6: off these programs, and that people who administer them are 465 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 6: certainly disincentivized to do anything about it. They continue to 466 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 6: make more money and get more money as long as 467 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 6: more hungry people come to them. And quite frankly, what 468 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 6: we've done is we've made the qualification and the requalification 469 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 6: easier and easier and easier. 470 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: You know, to put a face to that. It's hard 471 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 1: to put a face to that. It's hard. 472 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 6: Yes, that's why you abdicate your compassion to the government. 473 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: Because you don't have to deal with it. You don't 474 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 1: have to face it. 475 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 6: You don't have to decide, you know, at the end 476 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 6: of you know, every pay period, am I going to 477 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 6: give ten dollars, twenty dollars, one thousand dollars whatever it 478 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 6: is to a local food bank or to a local 479 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 6: church who has you know, the place in the church 480 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 6: where they give out clothing or they give out food, 481 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 6: or they you know, or they have programs to help 482 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 6: people find jobs or to help them to transit. You know, 483 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,360 Speaker 6: they're trying to get back to some place where they 484 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 6: you know, if I can only move to if I 485 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 6: can only get to Nevada, I've got I've got a 486 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 6: job waiting in Nevada, but I don't have enough money 487 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 6: to get a bus to get there. We take these problems, 488 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 6: steraralyze them, and then we isolate ourselves from them, and 489 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 6: then the government grows and grows and grows, and the 490 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 6: politicians abuse it, and they use it and abuse it 491 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 6: to keep themselves in power. And then when he's confronted 492 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 6: with it, Oh, I put to you what he put together, 493 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 6: forty or fifty bags and suddenly all gone. 494 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: Then then when he sees the faces of the. 495 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 4: People, now the community is pitching in the help. 496 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 10: As of Friday, a gofund me had already raised about 497 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 10: thirty thousand dollars, which. 498 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 6: Tells me that the adage that this is the most 499 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 6: giving country in the world is absolutely true. But we 500 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 6: don't do it except when it gets thrown in our faces. 501 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 6: So when we get struck with, you know, a hurricane 502 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,360 Speaker 6: or a tornado, or some natural or man made disaster, 503 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 6: then we all chip in. Otherwise we just bury our 504 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 6: heads because the government's taking care of that. The government's 505 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 6: doing this, the government's doing that. The more you allow 506 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 6: that to happen, the stronger, larger, more powerful, and influential 507 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 6: and intractable. Not only will the problems become, but so 508 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 6: will the so called agencies or departments that are designed 509 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 6: to alleviate the problem, although I would argue they're not 510 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 6: really designed to alleviate the problem. They're just designed to 511 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 6: finance the problem. That's what they're doing. It's like some 512 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 6: subprime lender somewhere just you know, just keep churning. You know, 513 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 6: you gotta you've got a note car lot, so you 514 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 6: sell a car, so somebody doesn't really have any credit. 515 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 6: They have to they got to pay, you know, one 516 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 6: hundred dollars a week. And if you don't come, you know, 517 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 6: if you don't pay your hundred dollars a week in cash, 518 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 6: we're going to come and repo your car. Well, it's 519 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 6: the same thing here. They're just acting like a note 520 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 6: car lot. They're just they're just keeping you churning and 521 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 6: keeping you incentivized to keep paying that one hundred dollars 522 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 6: to keep coming back. Don't try to do anything, you know. 523 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 6: And Dragon mentioned something on Friday that I think I 524 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 6: failed to get back to, and that is we don't, 525 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 6: for some reason, we don't allow a step up. So 526 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 6: and by that, I mean when somebody gets a raise 527 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 6: and they earn fifty cents more an hour than Boom, 528 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 6: that cuts them off because they've now crossed some artificial 529 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 6: threshold that the government has set. Well, why don't you 530 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 6: reduce by just a little bit as they start to 531 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 6: increase their income and wean them off. We don't do that. 532 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 6: And you know why we don't do that, because the 533 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 6: government's not compassion. The government cannot set up a system 534 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 6: that on a case by case basic you can figure out, Oh, 535 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 6: he's got a job, he's earning. You know, he's earning 536 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,959 Speaker 6: I don't know whatever it is now, but that's going 537 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 6: to put him over the edge. But you know, let's 538 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 6: give him some time to make sure he can stay 539 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 6: in that job. Let's reduce the benefits by a little 540 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 6: bit to incentivize him to work really hard at keeping 541 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 6: that job. And what bureaucrat in their right mind is 542 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 6: going to spend time doing that. A single one, a church, 543 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 6: or a private and privately funded charity might have the time, 544 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 6: the energy, and the resources to do it. The government 545 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 6: simply does not. 546 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 3: We need to mimic some of the things that deems do, 547 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 3: including changing language. Some of the language we absolutely need 548 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 3: to change. Is anything that says government funded or free 549 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 3: needs to be changed to legal taxpayers fund it. Let's 550 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 3: see how that goes over, because that is the truth. 551 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 3: Nothing is government funded, nothing is free. 552 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 6: As you can tell by the amount of time that 553 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 6: I've spent on this topic for the past well Friday, 554 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 6: then on the National Show Saturday, and then again this morning. 555 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 6: I want to make sure you understand that it's not 556 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 6: that I'm not sympathetic. It's not that I feel badly 557 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 6: for people who find themselves in these situations. And I 558 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 6: fully understand that oftentimes people find these themselves in these situations. 559 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 6: And I'm not going to say that it's not their 560 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 6: fault because usually you know, you lose a job, well, 561 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 6: that truly may not be your fault. The company may 562 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 6: be downsizing so you get rifted, or you may lose 563 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 6: your job because of poor performance and you haven't done 564 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 6: the kind of saving or investment or you know, putting 565 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 6: side for a rainy day. Many people live paycheck to paycheck. 566 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 6: They don't have any assets, they don't there's there's it's 567 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 6: it's such a complex story. But because it's complex, and 568 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 6: then you add on to the complexity emotion, and then 569 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 6: you add on to the complexity the emotion that we're 570 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 6: talking about real people with real lives. It's a very 571 00:31:56,120 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 6: difficult conversation to have, and that's shown by his emotion. 572 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 6: Nick the butcher when he realizes that he put out 573 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 6: forty fifty bags whatever it was, and those were gone, 574 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 6: and then he saw and then he sees the faces 575 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 6: of those individuals, and now he's Oh, now I'm still 576 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 6: mad at his he says, I'm still mad that I'm 577 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 6: doing this. I shouldn't have to be doing this the government. 578 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 6: You have to be doing that. That is the first. 579 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 6: That's almost like an alcoholic. You have to first admit 580 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 6: that you have a problem. And I don't think that 581 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 6: Nick's at the point where you much submit that we 582 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 6: have a problem. Because his solution, while he is taking 583 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 6: on some additional responsibility, personal responsibility himself through his business 584 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 6: to try to help people, and I applaud that, and 585 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 6: I think that is great, but he still falls back 586 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 6: on but this is really not my problem. I'm only 587 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 6: doing this because I feel badly and doing it makes 588 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 6: me feel good. Well, let me ask you, does it. 589 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 6: Does it make you feel good? If the Democrats finally 590 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 6: vote to reopen and the benefits get reinstated, and they 591 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 6: go back to the status quo and nothing changes, do 592 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,479 Speaker 6: you still feel good because those people won't show up 593 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 6: in your butcher shop anymore. Because now they're going to 594 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 6: go to the grocery store and use their EBT cards 595 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 6: and they're going to either buy goods or use the cash. 596 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 6: You get whatever they want. And suddenly, well, we'll go 597 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 6: right back to the same oldsemo. I think this this 598 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 6: situation today, with food stamps, food stamps SNAP, with all 599 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 6: of these, all these entitlement programs, and by the way, 600 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 6: speaking in language that bugs me entitlement programs. The only 601 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 6: entitlement program I think to truly exist is Social Security. Why, 602 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 6: because people themselves have taken their own hard earned money 603 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 6: and put it into it, they are entitled to get 604 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 6: that money back. People who have not participated in the 605 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 6: system and have not paid taxes, or they have paid 606 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 6: taxes for a short period of time and then gone 607 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 6: onto these programs are not necessarily entitled to those benefits, 608 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 6: but by law we have made it so. So you 609 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 6: want to change the language, I would change that language. 610 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 6: It just seems to me that we ought to have 611 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 6: an honest conversation about what we're doing with our tax dollars. Otherwise, 612 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 6: will never ever solve, hunger, will never ever The Bible 613 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,800 Speaker 6: tells us the poor and the hunger, you will always 614 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 6: be among us. The question then is who should be 615 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 6: taking care of them? Well, we should not the government. 616 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 6: The government simply cannot be compassionate. 617 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 1: And won't be. Oh, trust me, they won't be even