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Speaker 1: Boston's news Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, everybody, and welcome on into a Tuesday night

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Speaker 2: edition of Nightside. My name is Dan Ray. I'm the

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Speaker 2: host of this program. We are now in year number nineteen.

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Speaker 2: For those of you who are keeping score and keeping

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Speaker 2: track of such things, we have four interesting guests here

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Speaker 2: at the eight o'clock hour tonight.

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Speaker 3: No phone calls during the eight o'clock hour.

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Speaker 2: We will get to topics later on tonight. We certainly

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Speaker 2: will talk about the two year anniversary of that horrific

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Speaker 2: attack by Hamas on innocent Israeli men, women, and children

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Speaker 2: two years ago this very day, at nine o'clock, we're

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Speaker 2: going to talk about the possibility of government run grocery

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Speaker 2: stores here in Boston, and Boston City councilor Council of

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Speaker 2: Liz Breeden will join us. But first hour, we have

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Speaker 2: four guests, as always, and the first one deals with

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Speaker 2: an upcoming fundraiser. It's called United in Fashion. It's going

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Speaker 2: to be at the Double Tree by Hilton out in Milford, Massachusetts.

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Speaker 2: I have been to that hotel. It's very nice location,

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Speaker 2: pretty easily accessible. With us is Catherine Pisani Piscani. I

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Speaker 2: hope I'm pronouncing that right. She is the founder of

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Speaker 2: Project Smile, which is what we're going to talk about,

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Speaker 2: and also Suits and Smiles, which I guess is an

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Speaker 2: offshoot of Project Smile. Catherine, Welcome to night Side.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you very much for having me.

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Speaker 3: Was that close in the last name?

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Speaker 4: I hope that's one of those good old Italian names

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Speaker 4: that nobody can pronounce them.

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Speaker 2: Pizza Connie, Pizza Khannie, Pisa Kannie. Oh, I can get

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Speaker 2: the Kannie at the end. Okay, Pisa Khannie. That's good,

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Speaker 2: like a piece of Khanie in something else.

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Speaker 3: Pizza Khani.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's good. So tell us what your organization is

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So I started Project Smile twenty years ago actually,

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Speaker 4: and original program we provide stuffed animals for social workers

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Speaker 4: going into foster care. Sure, anything like that. Yeah, And

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Speaker 4: we donated over forty six thousand stuffed animals since two

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Speaker 2: Do these have to be brand new stuffed animals? Or

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Speaker 2: do you accept them if they're in good condition.

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Speaker 4: Except yeah, we take them either brand new or lightly used.

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Speaker 4: It was a great way for Yeah, so it's a

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Speaker 4: great way. You know, children have got extless stuffed animals

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Speaker 4: actually ever played with, you know, to give them a

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Speaker 3: That's great. So we'll talk about that. But then now

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Speaker 3: you also have.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you call it a secondary cause

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Speaker 2: you have something called Suits and Smiles, and that's a

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Speaker 3: Tell us about that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you. So I had wanted to expand Project

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Speaker 4: Smile over the years, you know, it's been a long

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Speaker 4: read about a nonprofit in New York City that provided

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Speaker 4: interview clothing for men. There's Dress to Success, which does

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Speaker 4: an amazing word for women, but there isn't one for men.

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Speaker 4: And so I was thinking, Okay, why don't we start something,

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Speaker 4: And we've started in January twenty twenty and now we've

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Speaker 2: So the clothing again has to be I assume it's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. So the majority of our clothing, our donations,

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Speaker 4: pre owned. Yeah, And everything has to be ready to wear,

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Speaker 2: And you said, how many men have been able to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, men have you set off to with job interviews

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we've helped over twelve hundred and eighty men since

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Speaker 2: but you've I think you've made up ground, that's for sure. Well,

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Speaker 2: these only two great projects. I know you're Are you

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Speaker 2: coming up on Friday, October twenty fourth, and I believe

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Speaker 3: From this upcoming Friday. It's the twenty fourth.

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Speaker 2: We got the tenth and the seventeenth and then the

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Speaker 2: twenty fourth at the Double Tree by Hilton, Boston and Milford.

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Speaker 2: I know it's in Milford. Where are you, folks located?

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Speaker 2: Do people have to bring? Do you ever do pickups?

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Speaker 2: How they drop off spots? How do we get people

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Speaker 3: Or are they drop off locations? What? How do you

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Speaker 4: Right. So our program, our men's clothing program, suits and

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Speaker 4: smiles located in Jamaica Plane, so people do have to

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Speaker 4: We actually get donations by mail every every week, which

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Speaker 2: So again, the drop off spot, I'm just trying to

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Speaker 4: So that would be most of the drop off right

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Speaker 2: Okay, so how about if you give us let's let's

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Speaker 2: simplify this, Okay, why don't you give us a website

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's on Project smile dot org.

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Speaker 2: Perfect, that's an easy website to remember, projectsmile dot org

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Speaker 2: and you'll have all the information there that is needed.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like two great causes. Stuffed animals for children

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Speaker 3: And suits. I assume you'll also take slacks and jackets

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Speaker 3: or does it have to be a suit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but we take dress shirts, we take dress shoes,

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Speaker 4: we take dress pants and blazers. And we have a

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Speaker 4: know what exactly we need at that point, because you know,

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Speaker 4: it's what we look after, the clothing and keep it

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And again the website Project smile dot pretty simple, right,

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Speaker 2: help me out here, Catherine, just just give me a

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Speaker 2: good good, good good. I love your enthusiasm. Thank you,

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Speaker 2: Katherine Pizicani, Thank you very much. I think I got

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Speaker 2: kind of close to it that time. Thanks again. Congratulations

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 5: Thank you very much, Very welcome.

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Speaker 2: We come back when to talk about a pilot shortage. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: believe it or not, because of a number of factors.

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Speaker 2: Not only are there problems with air traffic controllers calling

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Speaker 2: And we're going to talk about the former airline pilot

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Speaker 2: and CEO of thrust Flight, a multi location flight training organization,

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Speaker 2: named Patrick Arnsen right after this break here on night Side.

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Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray. I'm w Boston's

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Speaker 2: Well to welcome Patrick Arnsen. He's a former airline pilot

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Speaker 2: and CEO of thrust Flight, of multilocation flight training organization,

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Speaker 2: Patrick rzarn r Zen. I believe, give me the correct pronunciation.

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Speaker 2: It's Arnsen Arnsen, Okay, fair enough, Okay, now that I

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Speaker 6: You know, I think it really is the perfect storm

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Speaker 6: over the last call it twenty five years that that

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Speaker 6: Those pilots, you know, have long since since retired, and

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Speaker 6: to you know, to the airlines. But and that's just

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Speaker 6: one of many factors. But you know, we're we're not

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Speaker 6: So I think the figure right now is something like

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Speaker 6: one factor, and I think the other factor is, you know,

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Speaker 6: it's an expensive, expensive career to pursue. Right now, it's

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Speaker 2: Okay, what about is it possible that with the pilots

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Speaker 6: You know, I don't know, honestly, if those days ever

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Speaker 5: You know it.

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Speaker 6: Can it be done cheaper? Absolutely, you could probably do

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Speaker 2: It's the difference between going getting a graduate degree or

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Speaker 6: No, we have three locations in Texas and we also

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Speaker 2: Would you guys learn how to fly in those storms?

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Speaker 2: Tell me only joking, just joking.

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Speaker 3: They get in touch with you? If they're so relined?

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Speaker 6: They can find us at www dot thrust flight dot.

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Speaker 2: Com, thrustflight dot com. Remember this, if you've ever remembered

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I'm older than you are.

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Speaker 2: I suspect okay, I'm a baby boomer, so I suspect

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Speaker 2: very much, Patrick Arnson, Patrick Arnsen, former airline pilot CEO

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Speaker 2: Half thank you, sir. Okay, he's left. Rob tells me

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Speaker 2: talk about with an author named Rachel Corbett, the History

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Speaker 2: of criminal profiling, The Monsters We Make, Murder, Obsession and

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Speaker 1: You're on Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm w Z

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Speaker 2: Who want to welcome Rachel Corbett. She's an author writer.

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Speaker 2: She writes features for several well known magazines, particularly New

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Speaker 2: York Magazine. Rachel Corbett, Welcome to Nightside.

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Speaker 7: I'm good, Thanks, How are you good?

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Speaker 2: You've just written a book, The Monsters We Make Murder

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Speaker 2: Obsession in the Rise of Criminal Profiling. I've read some

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's the There was a forensic surgeon in London

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Speaker 2: The profiling is kind of a bad word. We shouldn't

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Speaker 2: You're talking about behavior pattern, time of the crime is it?

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Speaker 7: knew nothing about, him so the profile might guide a

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00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 7: first place to. Look but, actually historically they're not very.

441
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 7: ACCURATE i think ones that he found that In london

442
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 7: only about two point seven percent of profiles led to

443
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 7: the capture of a. Suspect so they're more of an

444
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 7: art than a, SCIENCE i think is a consensus.

445
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 2: Today, well With, kazinski he's living up in his shack In.

446
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 2: Montana this is a guy graduated From harvard and obviously

447
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 2: was in evil mind and he was sending, mom you,

448
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 2: know explosive packages through the, mail and for a long

449
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,679
Speaker 2: time they thought perhaps that it might have been his former.

450
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 2: Professors it turned OUT i believe that it was the

451
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 2: name of people who were on the cutting edge of

452
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Speaker 2: technical and scientific, breakthroughs because that was what bothered him

453
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 2: and the only way that he could get that information

454
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Speaker 2: was there was a subscrip ription at the library in

455
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 2: the town In montana that he lived to that he

456
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,360
Speaker 2: lived in this little, shack and he goes to take

457
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 2: his bike down to the library read The New York,

458
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 2: times and if he found someone who was involved in

459
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 2: some sort of technical advancement that he didn't agree with that,

460
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 2: person then the chances of them receiving a love letter

461
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 2: From Ted kaczinski in the form of explosive package rose.

462
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Speaker 7: Significantly, yeah, exactly that's. Right he targeted psychology, professors scientists,

463
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:39,439
Speaker 7: also you, know the CEOs of, airlines because he was

464
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 7: so angry that out in his cabin when an airplane

465
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 7: was fly overhead and disturbed his. Peace one THING i

466
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,439
Speaker 7: talk about in the book is That Ted kozinski was

467
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 7: subject to pretty cruel experimentation while he was an undergraduate

468
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,120
Speaker 7: At harvard and by one of the psychology professors, there

469
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 7: and it may have had something to do with his

470
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Speaker 7: targeting of psychologists and. Scientists.

471
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 2: YEAH i hate to give a guy like him any

472
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 2: credit because he some of his bombs.

473
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 3: Killed i'm serious WHEN i say.

474
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 2: THAT i mean we, all any of us who went

475
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 2: through anything in, life can look back and, say you,

476
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 2: know that was a really tough baseball.

477
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 3: COACH i.

478
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 2: Had the guy yelled at me WHEN i WHEN i

479
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 2: gave up that home run. Ball you, know it really

480
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 2: shook me. Up, NO i think that's kind of a cop. Out.

481
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 2: Now that guy was, there and the only reason they

482
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 2: caught him was The Washington post agreed to publish his

483
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 2: memorandum or his, mandate and his brother recognized the writing of.

484
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 3: His, brother and the brother turned him.

485
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 2: In, yeah if The Washington post had not published his,

486
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 2: MANIFESTO i think was how he characterized, IT i guess

487
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 2: he could still be living up there In montana.

488
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,400
Speaker 3: TODAY i don't. Know it's.

489
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 2: Interesting so the book has just come out or is

490
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 2: coming out, Right The monsters We, make, murder, obsession and

491
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 2: the rise of criminal, profiling AND i think it's going

492
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 2: to be an interesting. Read thank you so, Much rachel

493
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 2: for joining. Us it's a topic we could talk about

494
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 2: a lot, longer that's for. SURE i appreciate your time.

495
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 7: Tonight, definitely thank you so, much pleasure talking to.

496
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 2: You very, Welcome. Rachel have a great. Night we came

497
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 2: back when we talk about a happy. Topic if you're

498
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 2: A New England patriots, fan The patriots big win they're

499
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 2: upset on the road In buffalo On sunday. Night we're

500
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 2: going to talk With Chris, Price Boston Globe sports. Reporter

501
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 2: chris has been on with us. Before he knows his

502
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 2: stuff to try to answer the questions about what does

503
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 2: this say about The patriots moving? On you know as

504
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 2: it you, know they probably don't have the toughest schedule

505
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 2: remaining of any.

506
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:41,160
Speaker 3: Team But.

507
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 2: I'll be interested If Chris price projects him for a

508
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 2: ten win season or maybe a little.

509
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 3: More at this, Point.

510
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 2: Chris, Price Boston Globe sports, reporter talking about The patriots

511
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 2: coming back on Night.

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Speaker 1: Side Night side With Dan. Ray i'm telling you this news, Radio, well.

513
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 2: A couple of nights, Ago sunday, night most of us

514
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 2: were tuned Into Sunday Night, football and not too many

515
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 2: of us thought The patriots were going to outright. Win

516
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 2: we were hoping that they would keep it. Close they

517
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 2: did more than keep it close with, us As Chris,

518
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 2: Price Boston Globe sports Reporter Chris truth serum, time what

519
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 2: sort of a chance did you think The patriots had

520
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 2: On sunday night to win that? Game before the, KICKOFF i.

521
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 5: Thought they're chances of winning that. Game let's just call them.

522
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 5: Minimal the biting LINE i think was eight and a. Half,

523
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 5: yes that we have to make picks for the, paper

524
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 5: AND i, said The bills aren't going to. Cover The

525
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 5: patriots are going to keep it. Competitive but the talent

526
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 5: gap between the two is just so overwhelming that The

527
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 5: patriots won't be able to keep up down the. Stretch

528
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 5: they'll turn the ball, over they'll do something and, bustle

529
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 5: the will take. Advantage well shows WHAT i, know because

530
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 5: The patriots made the plays when they needed to make

531
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 5: them second, half going into the fourth, quarter d May

532
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 5: Stefon diggs and the Kicker andy Barg gallas connects for

533
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 5: what turned out to be the game winner with fifteen seconds,

534
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 5: left a fifty two yard field. Goal just a great

535
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 5: performance all around for this. Team and they went back

536
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 5: to back games for the first TIME i think in

537
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 5: two plus. Years so they're headed in the right. Direction

538
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 5: let's see if they can sustain success from moving. Forward

539
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 5: but it was a great, ballgames so the head Into New.

540
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 3: Orleans New orleans actually had kind.

541
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 2: Of a lucky win last. Weekend there were some weird

542
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 2: games last. Weekend That Arizona tennessee game ended. Weird this

543
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 2: is the second week in a row that AN nfl

544
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 2: receiver has dropped the, football you, know fu long touchdown

545
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 2: pass on the one yard. Line what are these guys, Thinking,

546
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 2: chris we will get to The. Patriots but my, god

547
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 2: what mistakes have been? MADE i, mean coaches much go.

548
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 5: Crazy i'm Assuming, yeah, YEAH i will say this in

549
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 5: this discant kind of lead us back to The patriots

550
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 5: if you, Want but, Yeah Mike rabel's first and most

551
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 5: important football commandment was something that he told us when

552
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 5: he was first hired In. January he, said we just

553
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 5: want to be good enough to take advantage of bad.

554
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 5: Football and that's bad. Football dropping the, ball you, know

555
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 5: before you cross the goal. Line they're in those. Situations

556
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 5: that's bad. Football AND i think each one of those

557
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 5: teams ended up paying for it in they did one

558
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 5: of those. Instances so, yeah it. Was it. Was it's

559
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 5: been a weird couple of weeks as teams get used

560
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 5: to some of the rules changes around the kickoff and

561
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 5: you know with these, again with these you, know giveaways

562
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 5: on the goal, line there's been some weird plays and

563
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 5: SO i Think New england is one of those teams

564
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 5: that's kind of been able to take advantage not, consistently

565
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 5: but for the most, Part newing has been able to

566
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 5: do a good job taking advantage of bad football so. Far,

567
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 5: again we'll see if that holds. True moved.

568
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 2: Forward, yeah they also When stevenson had that fumble early

569
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 2: in the game that could have turned the game around

570
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 2: if it had been. Recovered it was deep in The

571
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 2: patriots territory that that could turn the game around as.

572
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 2: WELL i thought came to a different. Level i've Watched

573
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 2: may AND i think he's a good. Quarterback but if

574
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 2: he can continue to have games like, THAT i hate

575
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 2: to say, this but he's gonna make people forget About Tom.

576
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 2: BRADY i, MEAN i mean he threw some, passes particularly

577
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 2: some of those rollouts to the right on a, dime

578
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 2: on a, dime and he got him into small. ZONES i,

579
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 2: mean it wasn't like the guy was opened by five

580
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 2: yards or ten.

581
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 3: Yards he had.

582
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 2: Some amazing. Passes you've followed it a lot more THAN i.

583
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 2: Have has he ever looked that sharp to, you even

584
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 2: in a?

585
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 5: Practice, No, Dan i'll tell you this WHEN i am

586
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 5: old and, gray or if When i'm older and grayer

587
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 5: THAN i am, Now i'll put it that. Way we're

588
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 5: going to look back on that game as the game

589
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 5: where it all started For Drake may because you, know,

590
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 5: really for the first time in his, career he was

591
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 5: able to lift a team down the stretch and come

592
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 5: away with a. Victory we see flashes from him over

593
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 5: the course of the last. Year so you remember the,

594
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 5: game the wild ending to the game In tennessee last

595
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 5: year where he threw the pass and forced over to

596
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 5: no time, left and he's over. Time we've seen things

597
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 5: like that from him. Before but to be able to

598
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 5: sustain success over the course of an entire game like,

599
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 5: that to have only one incomplete pass in the second

600
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 5: half when the game was on the, line to be

601
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 5: able to establish a connection like that with so many

602
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 5: important offensive options Like Hunter henry and of course capacity

603
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 5: made The Steph diggs rolling out to his. Right i'll

604
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 5: tell you, This. Dan one of the things that it's really,

605
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 5: Interesting i'm thinking about writing about this this. Week he

606
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 5: is so, good he is so, accurate and he is

607
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 5: so confident when it comes to rolling out to his.

608
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 5: Right that's something That josh McDaniels has really been able

609
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 5: to kind of lean, into and we saw those Results

610
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 5: sunday And ed against The.

611
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 2: BILLS i could not understand As i'm watching the game

612
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 2: Why buffalo didn't, have you, know somebody basically move on

613
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 2: every play to the left to contain.

614
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 5: HIM i mean it was, Like, yeah what was.

615
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 2: The defensive is fansio of the defensive coordinator For.

616
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 5: Buffalo, No, no They've they've had a few switches over

617
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 5: the last couple of, years but but they've always Been

618
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 5: i'll see, This, Dan they've always been pretty. Stout you,

619
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 5: know it's been very competitive and to be able to

620
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 5: use that one of the things that The patriots and

621
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 5: in THIS i don't want to kind of get too

622
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 5: deep in the weeds, here but one of the things

623
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 5: The patriots were able to do On sunday, night they

624
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 5: were able to use, misdirection play, action play, fakes bootlegs

625
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 5: and to kind of get him on the. Run And

626
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 5: drake may really for, Me dan is at his best

627
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 5: when he's on the, run when they use that. Athleticism

628
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 5: the other thing that we've seen him kind of go

629
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 5: from here to here when it comes to this. Year

630
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 5: last year he was running into injury a. Lot he

631
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 5: didn't always know when really the journey was. Over number

632
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 5: he took some bad. Shots last, year he was knocked

633
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 5: out of. Games this, year he's, sliding he's getting out of,

634
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 5: bounds he's much smarter when it comes to that pocket

635
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 5: awareness Into he's really doing a good job protecting. Himself

636
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 5: SO i Think Bin lard topeningly answer your. Question buffalo's

637
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 5: been really good at defending good quarterbacks like that over

638
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 5: the last couple of. Years but what The patriots did

639
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 5: was really excellent when it came to play, calling using

640
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 5: misdirection and that sort of.

641
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 2: Stuff, well the guy Who i've always thought was that

642
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 2: the key To buffalo for the last five or six

643
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 2: years has Been, milana the guy that played AT.

644
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 3: Bc he was a non factor On Sunday.

645
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 5: Night he really.

646
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 2: WAS i don't know what they did to. Him And

647
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 2: may did take one hit to the head on one

648
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 2: of those right at midfield and The buffalo got penalized for.

649
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 2: It but WHEN i looked at, THAT i, said, ooh

650
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 2: that's that's a nasty. Hit and of course they lose

651
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 2: the number Four, gibson so he's out for the. Season

652
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 2: that big that's going to be a, PROBLEM i, assume.

653
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: Yeah it really.

654
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 5: Will when you consider your reference From Andrey stevenson before

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Speaker 5: with the ball security. Issues, yeah it's going to be

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Speaker 5: interesting to see how The patriots kind of handle the

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Speaker 5: running back little looking, forward because the thought process was

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Speaker 5: That welson For mandre is, having you, know these fumbling,

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Speaker 5: issues they're going to sit him down and we're gonna

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Speaker 5: see more From Angela gibson and the Rookie Trevion. Henderson,

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Speaker 5: well now they're GONNA i think they're gonna end up

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Speaker 5: Playing remandre by default really had a lot of. Ways

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Speaker 5: Will henderson is still going to be a part of

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Speaker 5: the conversation. Here it's gonna Be remandre's show going. Forward

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Speaker 5: the interesting thing, here the trade deadline is coming up

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Speaker 5: in about a month or, so so my guess is

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Speaker 5: they can try and figure out a way to kind

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Speaker 5: of pieces, together maybe bring a guy up off the

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Speaker 5: Practice Squadurelle jennings kind of add another layer of. Depth

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Speaker 5: but they might be in the market for a running

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Speaker 5: back between now in the trade Deadline, november if The eagles.

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Speaker 2: Want to give Up, BARKLEY i think that would be

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Speaker 2: a nice holy, Kidding oh only. Kidding, okay here's The

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Speaker 2: i'm gonna put you on the. Spot, okay most people

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Speaker 2: would thinking The patriots might get five or six wins this?

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Speaker 2: Year what's this. Ceiling i'm not going to ask you

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Speaker 2: how many they're gonna. Win what's their ceiling in your?

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Speaker 5: Opinion, well when you look at the next six, Games,

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Speaker 5: dan they have the next six game, games the record

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Speaker 5: of their opponents is a combined nine and. Twenty the

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Speaker 5: next three games are against teams that have won one

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Speaker 5: game all. Year so this. Team the ceiling on this.

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Speaker 5: Team AND i wrote this the other day at the

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Speaker 5: expectation level for this team is really increased over the

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Speaker 5: last couple of weeks with back to back. Wins SO

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Speaker 5: i think in my mind they've gone FROM i predicted

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Speaker 5: seven wins at the start of the, year and so

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Speaker 5: now you can see a situation where you know they

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Speaker 5: could they could win eight or nine and they could

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Speaker 5: be in that playoff conversation Come november And. December because

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Speaker 5: the schedule is so weak for the next six.

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Speaker 3: Weeks put me down for. ELEVEN i think it's an eleven,

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Speaker 3: SIX K i DO i? Do?

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Speaker 2: Right i'm telling. YOU i MEAN i think That miami's in.

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Speaker 2: Trouble With Tyreek hill gone for the, YEAR i think

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Speaker 2: that things are kind of going to break their way

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Speaker 2: we'll talk about it, Again, Chris, okay But i'm down for,

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Speaker 2: eleven all, right thanks, man.

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Speaker 5: Here you here you we'll circle back around on that In.

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Speaker 5: December how about?

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Speaker 2: That you bet you all? Before Thanks, chris talk to you,

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Speaker 2: soon all. Right we get back WHEN i talk with

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Speaker 2: The Boston City council Of Liz breeden about the idea

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Speaker 2: of government run grocery.

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Speaker 3: Stores we'll get some. QUESTIONS i hope. That.

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Speaker 2: Well we'll see What council Of breeden has to. SAY

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Speaker 2: i have some, INTERESTING i think interesting. Questions we'll find

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Speaker 2: out back after The nune