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Speaker 1: Stating the obvious, but I like to remind people put

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Speaker 1: it's Friday. Another reason to put a smile on your face.

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Speaker 1: We do have some great options as we fast approach

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Speaker 1: the November elections. Since I City Council, we have a

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Speaker 1: multitude of candidates to choose from. Some I think are

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Speaker 1: worth voting for, and some or others. Some have a

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Speaker 1: demonstrable record of success and have shown the logic and

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Speaker 1: reason and maybe some really great ideas for the city,

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Speaker 1: oftentimes rejected by the overwhelming presence of one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: Democrats on council. How about going with the charter right?

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Speaker 1: How about voting for Steve good and from the law

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Speaker 1: firm of Porter Right. You need a good lawyer, go

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Speaker 1: great candidate and win the election, go to vote Good

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Speaker 1: and good I n vote Gooden dot com. Welcome back,

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Speaker 1: Steve Good And it's always a pleasure talking with you.

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Speaker 2: Bright. I think you could kind words. Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: It's there. They come from the heart, my friend, and

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Speaker 1: I just just doubling back on all the times you've

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Speaker 1: legal cases that have drawing national attention or even local attention.

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Speaker 1: You do such a wonderful job boiling it down to

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Speaker 1: you know, easily understandable principles and facts, but you stay

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Speaker 1: a great job representing your client. So I just thanks

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Speaker 1: for all the time you spell with my listeners and me,

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Speaker 1: helping us unpack these things over the years, and let

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Speaker 1: us try to unpack what's going on in downtown Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: See running for council early verting's open, get in touch

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Speaker 1: and vote for Steve. So it sounds to me like

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Speaker 1: Aft Purvol is now admitting we have a problem with

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Speaker 1: crime in downtown Cincinnati, because forever he was saying no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: you just you don't believe your own eyes. You're just

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Speaker 1: you have this wrong perception. Crimes actually down, and yet

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Speaker 1: in downtown since night two o'clock this morning, and he

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Speaker 1: has now released some updated crime fightings quote unquote solutions.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing the quote things with my fingers, including accepting

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Speaker 1: four days of Ohio State Patrol in the City of Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: as opposed to an entire month's worth, which is what

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Speaker 1: the governor offered him, among other things. Andre Ewing's on

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Speaker 1: yesterday saying, wait a second, why wouldn't you just take

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Speaker 1: everything the state has to offer, will supplement the depleted ranks,

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Speaker 1: and let's see if that works. So by even accepting

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Speaker 1: something from the state, I believe he's acknowledging them as

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Speaker 1: a crime problem and pivoting over. There was rumors that

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Speaker 1: he was getting ready to fire police Chief Teresa Thiji.

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Speaker 1: I guess because of crime. How do you unpackage this part?

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Speaker 1: Steve Gooden.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, well, the headline here is really simple,

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Speaker 2: which is the city's you know, four year experiment in

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Speaker 2: not really enforcing crime, our basic laws downtown is a failure.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, both the mayor and and the

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Speaker 2: the world that meant, but you know, what it basically

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Speaker 2: has boiled down to is whether it's open air pot smoking, loitering, fighting,

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Speaker 2: social behaviors, public urination, and the homeless population that it's

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Speaker 2: been downtown graffiti, you name it. They're not really arresting anyone.

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Speaker 2: The directives to the police from the chief, through the

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Speaker 2: We might give them a warning, we're not going to

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Speaker 2: what has happened over four years is there is this

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Speaker 2: you know, some people call this the broken windows theory.

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Speaker 2: When you let the little things go over time, they

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Speaker 2: I think she's lost the confidence of the rank and file.

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Speaker 2: She had to know better. I mean, she was an

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Speaker 2: cannot have this weird social experiment. This is like you

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Speaker 2: real violent crime. And that's what's happened here. When you

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Speaker 2: strip everything away, it's very plain they have a public

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Speaker 1: So, Steve Gooden, what I'm hearing is that while the

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Speaker 1: statistics themselves may suggest crime is down, the nature of

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Speaker 1: That's not going to get reported. Is so it gives

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Speaker 2: That's exactly right, and actually, and it goes way deeper

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Speaker 2: than that, Brian, I mean, we know and I know

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Speaker 2: people have had their windows shot out, like particularly in

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Speaker 2: And while police officers know that too, I mean, they

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Speaker 2: know the city has become more violent, particularly in terms

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Speaker 2: has popped up in numerous other neighborhoods. We know we

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Speaker 2: have an uptick, a real strong uptick in property crimes

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Speaker 2: in carthafs and neighborhoods like Hyde Park and Outlookout that's

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Speaker 2: I think we have been too centric in terms of

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Speaker 2: it was absolutely avoidable with a little bit of foresight

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Speaker 1: And a different administration. Time for a change in administration,

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Speaker 1: Council Steve, vote Gooden dot com. Real quick here, Steve,

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Speaker 1: before we leave the crime component, I just want to

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Speaker 1: City Manager are the ones that decided that she would

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Speaker 1: They picked her because they're allowed to. After the passage

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Speaker 1: of Issue five some years ago. They apparently are directing her.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned how good of a police officer police Chiefdiji was,

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Speaker 1: and she has qualified for the job. So I presume

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Speaker 1: which means she is following the I'll characterize it as

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Speaker 1: So she's taking their directive and moving in this low

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Speaker 1: I you think I'm close.

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Speaker 2: I think you're if anything, you're being too charitable to

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Speaker 2: what happened. I mean, look, I mean what they're doing

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Speaker 2: a point where it's easier destructive and sort of. Yes, absolutely,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean they really have, and I know

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Speaker 2: this from a personal conversation I had with the chief

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Speaker 2: as I say, every time you drive over one of

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Speaker 2: you're seeing like some defunding of the police right in

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Speaker 2: the speed humps. It is an excuse to keep police

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Speaker 2: know is one of the most powerful ways of getting

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Speaker 2: you know, it was a very common occurrence for someone

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Speaker 2: to pull over someone for a traffic infraction, you roll

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Speaker 2: get them out of the car, and oh, look there's

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Speaker 2: that's one of the ways you get guns that you

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Speaker 2: use traffic laws to actually get guns off the street.

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Speaker 2: We don't do that anymore per her direction. And you're right. Look,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I was a prosecutor for many years.

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Speaker 2: You know, I started that job almost twenty five years

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Speaker 2: ago this month actually, and you know Fijis. As a

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Speaker 2: did have the support of the rank and file. She

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Speaker 2: she was out there, you know, on the street making arrests.

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Speaker 2: She came up through the rank. She was a police

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Speaker 2: officer for I think thirty one years. Nobody's going to

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Speaker 2: have anything bad to say about what she did as

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Speaker 2: She wasn't pushing back publicly. She was an apologist for

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Speaker 2: this agenda that the mayor has, she provided political cover

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Speaker 2: for him. And one of the things that really turned

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Speaker 2: just two days ago with one of the I think

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Speaker 2: one of the most lost city council members, this guy,

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Speaker 2: Mark Jefferies. He's the most out there I think of

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Speaker 2: the group because he pretends to be like a business

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Speaker 2: guy but really is part of this woke mess. And

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Speaker 2: she's like in the campaign literature with them in uniform,

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Speaker 2: which is blatantly illegal. I mean, she's been playing this

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Speaker 2: it's just wrong. And I mean, look, if you're going

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Speaker 2: to live by the swords, you dive of the sword.

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Speaker 2: She's become a political actor right now, and she's now

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Speaker 2: her career is going to meet its demise on the

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Speaker 2: lines because it's politically expedient to get rid of her.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what, I'm reminded of George Orwell Animal

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Speaker 1: Farm and Boxer fought for the cause and died for

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Speaker 1: the and ended up being, you know, sent off to

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Speaker 1: the glue factory after serving the cause as one of

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Speaker 1: the most loyal folks. So here she is serving the

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Speaker 1: ft have provall woke agenda cause not doing law enforcement

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Speaker 1: the way she understood it and used to do it.

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Speaker 1: And then because crime is bad and because people aren't

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Speaker 1: happy with current status law enforcement, she ends up losing

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Speaker 1: your job. Maybe because of that. Interesting that, Steve Gooden, Well,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Porto Wright's a place to find

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Speaker 1: Steve Goodin for laws stuff, Vote Goodin dot com online

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Speaker 1: to help him out with the campaign and see upright

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Speaker 1: hand corner. Donate get involved maybe due to some door

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Speaker 1: knock and get us a yard sign.

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Speaker 2: Steve.

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Speaker 1: I wish you all the best. I appreciate you willing

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Speaker 1: this to come on the show and talk about these issues.

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Speaker 1: And I think you'd be a welcome, welcome edition for

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Speaker 1: the City of Cincinnati as a council member.

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Speaker 2: Again, thank you. I think they need a grumpy middle

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Speaker 2: aged man. That's what I bring.

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Speaker 1: So thank you very much, Appointed Moniker. Thanks Steve good

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Speaker 1: and grumpy man. We'll have you back on again soon,

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Speaker 1: hopefully before the election. Again stick around speaking a folks

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Speaker 1: runner for Sincey City Council, Gary Favors returns the