1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: And Donald. 2 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: He they come now a happy good Friday to you. 3 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 3: It's time to rise and shine at nine for the 4 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 3: Friday football feast. 5 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: Thinking of those steaks. So music. 6 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 3: In the end, Nordo produces and I'm Paul Allen, the 7 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 3: timber tech What's on deck set list unfurled momentarily, but 8 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 3: what was on deck last night in the capital city 9 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:36,559 Speaker 3: of Saint Paul, including included this guy talllying too. 10 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 2: This is forced to make a save in the opening seconds. 11 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: Now a strip and a break for polding. Body's in 12 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: a Loto tull of Peelong loading high line. 13 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 4: Twenty three seconds into period two, Body's gonna pair head 14 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 4: this case Pinea two. 15 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 3: Nordo hit the Captain Wolsey with a with a pressing 16 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 3: baldy question yesterday and a young Matthew came through with two. 17 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 3: And we also brought up the recent developments with Carill 18 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 3: caprice Off and wondering when he would score and. 19 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, well and good morning. Uh no caprice Off. 20 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 5: I did have the Boldie highlight. I did not have 21 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 5: the capriz Off highlight. Both of them getting to four, okay, three, two, 22 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 5: Let I do this, let me do this. 23 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 2: I was I went to the game. I was driving 24 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: home for the driving over the. 25 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 6: Game, give us a replay, give us a highlight, and 26 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 6: so this in the car on the way home, they 27 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 6: were playing some Joe Donald highlights and I was I 28 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 6: was like imitating it and my girlfriend Ellen was I 29 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 6: think here it was driving her nuts. 30 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 2: And Bully was not good. See, I mean she was 31 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 2: going nuts. 32 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,679 Speaker 7: Anyway, Boldie times too, the Caprice if highlight. I wasn't 33 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 7: prepared for that. 34 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 3: That's the voice of Alec Lewis at alec Underscore. Lewis 35 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 3: covers the Minnesota Vikings for the Athletic and the Athletic 36 00:02:56,280 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 3: dot Com also has the wildly popular Alexis Show podcast. 37 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 3: And this is the Friday Football Feast, but it's also 38 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 3: the Friday fore checking Feast where Alc indeed was in 39 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 3: attendance last night. It it was a sold out crowd 40 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 3: and it it it there were. 41 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 2: So many things going on last night. 42 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 3: Uh, the the Minnesota Wild took on perhaps the very 43 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 3: worst team in the NHL that scored eight on the 44 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 3: Colorado Avalanche the night before, and then all of a sudden, 45 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 3: they're winning two to one, and we got young Alec 46 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 3: in the house and I started to get a little nervous. 47 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: Did you, Yeah, I mean it was crazy. They scored 48 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 2: the one and. 49 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 7: Then we stood up to go get some I don't 50 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 7: know what. We ended up like a burrito bull or something. 51 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 7: And they're called alcoholic beverages the crad. 52 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 2: No, I didn't drink that much. I knew it was 53 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 2: gonna be up early. Uh. 54 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 7: And then they scored again and I said, I was like, 55 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 7: that's just the I saw it on the TV. 56 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 2: I'm like, that's just a replay, right. 57 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 4: No. 58 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 7: And then but the urgency after that, and Tom Reid 59 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 7: was loving it after the game, he talked about the 60 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 7: urgency down to. 61 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 2: Listen under the post game. That's awesome. 62 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 3: I will tell you just send a text into fondness 63 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 3: from between periods. 64 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 7: I will tell you the crowd, I mean it was 65 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 7: sold out, but like the it was. 66 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 2: I mean, they're playing the worst team in the league. 67 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 7: It's a Thursday night in Saint Paul, and there was 68 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 7: not an open seat and the place was buzzing the 69 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 7: whole time. 70 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 5: And so you could hear it in the caprice off 71 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 5: highlight that we will now listen to. 72 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 2: That's a wild Steelers capriso. It's got a man wide 73 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 2: open back to Caprice. 74 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 4: So many stores got a passing play and lead. As 75 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 4: Caprice off tucks up his fortieth of the year. 76 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 7: The crowd was raucous. It really, I mean it was 77 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 7: electric in there. And I told you this before we 78 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 7: came on. I mean to see Boldy score in person twice. 79 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 7: I mean, there's there's only so much more you could 80 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 7: ask it's your favorite player? Almost he almost And I 81 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 7: told you this. There was a play where he like 82 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 7: dips under from his knees and he like and it all. 83 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 7: I mean, it would have been stop Van Pelt probably 84 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 7: would have been talking about it. So I turned it 85 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 7: on after to see if they would give a highlight 86 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 7: because I was so excited. 87 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 3: Inside the weeds, getting inside the metaphorical weeds. With last 88 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 3: night's game. You you had Hughes, as we call him 89 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 3: in the business, forty three Quinn Hughes. Yeah, first game 90 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 3: against his former team. They hadn't played Vancouver in four months, 91 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 3: the last time they played, worst team in the NHL. 92 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 3: Beat him And I know you like to get inside 93 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 3: the weeds. Then for Vancouver zee bullyam. There's one name 94 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 3: the other two ROSSI Marco ROSSI, Well come on, yes, 95 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 3: you do we played last night? 96 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 2: Come on quite frankly, I just don't. 97 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 3: Lie, Liam oh, Liam Ogrin, Okay, Liam ogrim. 98 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 99 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 3: Brock Besser had a hat trick against the Abs the 100 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 3: night before. Brock Besser is a Burnsville native, really, so 101 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 3: he had about twenty to fifty. 102 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 2: In the crowd last night. 103 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 3: So there were some sneaky subplots to last night's game. 104 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 2: You you caught a good one, it really, I know 105 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 2: it was. It was phenomenal. 106 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 7: I had some help getting some tickets from people I 107 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 7: know really well who may be sitting across from me. 108 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 2: But it was, it was really fun. 109 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 7: We had a we had a very good time and 110 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 7: we yeah, went down there. I mean Zamboni's was overflowing 111 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 7: with people across the street. 112 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 2: I mean it was. I had a good time. 113 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 3: Hey man, welcome back from the owners meetings. Alan Lewis, 114 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 3: the Athletic, the Athletic dot Com and you know they're there. 115 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 3: Were really happy to see you here. Of course, but 116 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 3: over the last couple of days, you know, the the 117 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 3: there were some reports that you being here was not 118 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 3: one hundred percent. And the only way to ask the 119 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 3: question is how scared of bad weather were you given 120 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 3: for some reason three and a half years ago. Despite 121 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 3: being here three and a half years now, like four years, 122 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 3: you still fear driving when it comes up snowy or wet. 123 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 2: So here's what happened. 124 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 7: I was supposed to fly back I think Wednesday, and 125 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 7: so scared, and then I was told by my girlfriend 126 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 7: Ellen that it. 127 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 2: No, yeah, we're evolving there. I was told that. 128 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 7: She said there's gonna be eight to ten inches of snow, 129 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 7: so you be so you better get back. I'm like, 130 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 7: first of all, I mean, I'm so tired of the snow. 131 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 7: It's April, Like what are we doing? Second of all? 132 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 7: And then so I told Nordo and he's like, he's like, yeah, 133 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 7: I don't. I don't know about that. So every day 134 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 7: now Nordo has been saying, man, the plows, they're doing. 135 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 2: A great job with the plows. 136 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 7: That was my source. I didn't get any Abjack, you 137 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 7: must have got them all. Yeah, it was so yeah. 138 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 7: So I flew back early. I mean I paid extra 139 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 7: to fly back from Arizona so I can get back early. 140 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, because how much did you stick to the athletic forum. 141 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 7: That that was on my own dime? I do the 142 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 7: company right, you got. 143 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 5: An association that handles the shoveling for you at your spot. 144 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 2: It's just so ridiculous. 145 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 7: I I just I'm tired of the snow and I 146 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 7: I don't know, I don't know else to say that 147 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 7: we all are. The owner's meetings was, it was. It 148 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 7: was a blast. 149 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 2: It was fun. Everybody was relaxed. 150 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,559 Speaker 7: People were in good moods, had a good time, learned 151 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 7: a lot. 152 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 3: My son attended Grand Canyon University for a short time. 153 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 3: That builtmore. Oh my gosh, that's the best hotel I've 154 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 3: ever stayed. 155 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 2: Out my life. Yeah, I mean it. 156 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 7: And also, and we've talked about this before, but the 157 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 7: owners meetings is just so silly, like they're two different. 158 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 7: One time, I'm walking the lobby and I hear some 159 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 7: guy holler on the other side to some er other 160 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 7: random man, Hey you. 161 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 2: Need to go get a beer later. 162 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 7: I look over at Stephen Jones just yelling at someone 163 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 7: across the lobby. 164 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 3: Another time, I'm like, thought, maybe it'd be Marty Smith 165 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 3: and he wanted to talk about his new deal with 166 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 3: the Mothership. 167 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 2: I mean, as he should. He probably got paid handsomely. 168 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 2: That guy. I like him, He's funny, I was. I was. 169 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 7: There was another time I was like typing on a 170 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 7: story outside kind of by a by the poolish area 171 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 7: and Bilmore. Yeah, at the built Moore. You just like 172 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 7: sit out there writing and I heard this voice. I'm like, gosh, 173 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 7: that's a familiar voice right behind me. So I did 174 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 7: this like you're not You're trying to make it look 175 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 7: like you're not looking at him. So I turn around 176 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 7: and it's Sean McVeagh talking to Andrew Siciliano. And then 177 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 7: here comes then here comes Liam Cohen, and here comes 178 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 7: Matt Lafleur and they're all wearing sunglasses on the picture day. No, 179 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 7: this was like just the two days later and they're 180 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 7: all just like hanging out by the pools. 181 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 2: It's the owner's meetings. Is ridiculous, but it was good. 182 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 3: So with the and and Alec talked about this rather 183 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 3: deeply at the Alec Lewis Show podcast at Alec what's 184 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 3: the podcast X? 185 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: I think it's at Alec Lewis Show. At Alec Lewis Show. 186 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 2: Yeap learn that vax. 187 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 3: Wherever you get your podcasts right and and we also 188 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 3: we also have a voluminous amount of stories from the 189 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 3: from the owners meetings in Arizona. So sneaky chats at 190 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 3: the owners meetings. I mean that's the number one reason 191 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 3: and for a beat writer to go there, I would 192 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 3: assume now with the background conversations or or the table 193 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:12,719 Speaker 3: talk or whatever they let's begin here with the Minnesota vikings. 194 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 3: Up to this draft. Rob Razinsky is the acting general manager. 195 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 3: But via the Alex Lewis Show, you talked about a 196 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 3: general manager hiring plan. For those who haven't read a 197 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 3: story or listened to the to the pod, what'd you share? 198 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean they've definitely laid groundwork over these last 199 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 7: couple of months. I mean Mark Wilf was pretty open 200 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 7: about that that they have started to think about who 201 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 7: they want, what they want, et cetera. 202 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 2: Let's stop there for a second. 203 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 3: Is is this Is this a suggestion that Brazinsky after 204 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 3: the draft will not have the job. 205 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 7: No, No, not a suggestion. I mean I definitely think 206 00:10:55,600 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 7: that is in play. And Rob was asked directly about 207 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 7: it by Dame Mazutani and Rob was like, you know, 208 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 7: I could give you all the cliches and then you 209 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 7: felt like he's gonna tell you, Like this could be 210 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 7: the time where he tells you he wants this job, 211 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 7: then he just gave all. 212 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 2: The cliches, which. 213 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 7: Is what I would expect from Rob because he's sharp 214 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 7: and he knows that there's what's the upshot and being 215 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 7: very forward about everything. So but I think the word 216 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 7: that Mark Wolf used was after the draft, they're gonna 217 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 7: be fairly I mean, they're gonna be deliberate and they're 218 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 7: gonna be expeditious with the process. But I mean Rob Razenski. 219 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 7: The one word that Mark Wilf used in what he 220 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 7: wants out of this new GM is like leader, someone 221 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 7: who can align the personnel staff and coaching staff. And 222 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 7: I can tell you, having talked to people at all 223 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 7: levels of the organization that. 224 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 3: Lenny will that I haven't seen him since the sideline 225 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 3: in Seattle. 226 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 2: He was there at the owners meetings. 227 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 7: I can tell you over the last three months that 228 00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 7: Rob Brazenski has definitely led this thing well, and that 229 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 7: there are people internally who are like he's led it 230 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 7: like you'd expect the GM to lead it. So I 231 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 7: just think there's so much internal trust and respect for 232 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 7: how he's gone about it that it would make sense 233 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 7: for him to get a real shot at this thing 234 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 7: after the draft and we'll see what other options are there. 235 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 7: I mean, there was a lot of George Peyton conversation 236 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 7: among the Denver folks at the owners meetings. 237 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 2: Here bar pop up. Red Burkhart's been here at the Broncos. Yeah, 238 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 2: you hear that name a little bit. 239 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 7: But but George Peyton, I would say, like from the 240 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 7: time that Quasi was fired to now, you know, the 241 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 7: idea of having someone who also has the amount of 242 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 7: respect internally that he has been sent. 243 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 2: But we'll see. I wouldn't expect it to last very 244 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 2: long after the draft, is what I would say. 245 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 3: All Right, Well, when when this conversation comes up publicly 246 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 3: or not, and and you know, people formulate opinions or 247 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 3: share information like you just did the the the first 248 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 3: thing that I come to is if after the draft, 249 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 3: Rob Razinski is not the general manager of this team, 250 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 3: what's his wrong? Because they shipped all in bringing in 251 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 3: a super well respected guy to kind of fill that chair. 252 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, and that's why one of the questions 253 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 7: to Mark Wilf and I want to just credit like 254 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 7: I think it was Matthew Callery who asked him, would 255 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 7: you be interested in doing a different structure where it's 256 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 7: like you'd have a president of football operation we go 257 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 7: and then a GM underneath it. And Rob, I mean, 258 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 7: excuse me, and Mark Wilf kind of he shook his 259 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 7: head a little bit at that where it was like, 260 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 7: you know, we liked the idea of a general manager 261 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 7: reporting directly. So unless they had they have a shift 262 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 7: in opinion, I don't expect him to go that route. 263 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 2: And I think the question with Rob is fair. I mean, Rob, 264 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 2: you know this. 265 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 7: Rob is so he's sharp enough and aware enough that 266 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 7: he will work through whatever circumstance. But I do think 267 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 7: the way people talk about him as just like Cap 268 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 7: Whiz minimizes correct the feel, the emotional awareness, the galvanizing effect, right, 269 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 7: the faith people have in him, And so I do 270 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 7: think that's just important to talk about. 271 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 2: Moving forward and into the weeks and months to come 272 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 2: with this. 273 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 3: With Alec Lewis of The Athletic in Theathletic dot Com 274 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 3: when we return, I want to discuss something we started 275 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 3: yesterday with the Box in the Box involving Notre Dame 276 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 3: running back Jeremiah Love. We have a new respected NFL 277 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 3: mind third one this week for me, calling Jeremiah Love 278 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 3: a generational talent, which means he would be in the 279 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 3: class of like an Adrian Peterson. That needs to be unpacked. 280 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 3: The Timberwolves lost at Detroit last night. The Wild beat 281 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 3: Vancouver here Dallas was able to win easily, so you're 282 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 3: still chasing the stars. Six in arrears and Luka Doncic 283 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 3: messed up his hamstring last night and that's a sending 284 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 3: sh waves throughout the NBA. But when we return, some 285 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 3: Jay Love conversation and much more with Alex Lewis from 286 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 3: the Athletic courtesy of timber Tech and timber tech dot Com. 287 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 3: That's part of what's on deck on a good Friday 288 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 3: nine to noon style Nordo produces, and I'm Paul Allen. 289 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 3: Good morning, Welcome to KFAM. 290 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 2: Time Core Football. 291 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 3: It's nine to twenty in the neighborhood Friday Football Feast 292 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 3: at them one hundred point three KFAM. 293 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 2: Let's begin here there. 294 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 3: Jim Jimmy Johnson developed it many decades ago, and NFL 295 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 3: draft trading chart, and there are teams that still will 296 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 3: keep that draft trading chart which has which has numerical 297 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 3: values tied to each pick. In generally speaking, those numerical 298 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 3: values don't change, so for instance, and then here's what 299 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 3: I'm getting at, because well, let's let's with with Notre 300 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 3: Dame running back Jeremiah Love. 301 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's phenomenal. 302 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 3: Okay, and you've said that before, and I know you know, 303 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 3: you the college football loving fan in you follows this 304 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 3: market markedly more closely than a fair amount of people, 305 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 3: and you've been telling us about Jeremiah Love for a while. 306 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 3: Well it's an hour and change from now you're going 307 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 3: to hear it again from a reporting longtime friend of mine, 308 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 3: Adam Brussert, No Adam Kaplan, maybe Chris Brussard at ten o'clock. 309 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 3: But I asked him, do you think he's a generational talent? 310 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 3: And and Adam is not hyperbolic, and he said yes, 311 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 3: And then I go, okay, well that's I mean, that's 312 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 3: like Adrian Peterson type stuff. And he didn't back off. 313 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 3: He's the third person to me this week that has 314 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 3: gone down that road. So with the with the age 315 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 3: old NFL draft chart and the numerical values there, I 316 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 3: found I found one that is that's updated and and 317 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 3: you know it's it's this thing is standing the test 318 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 3: of time, and so like, for instance, if the Minnesota 319 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 3: Vikings picking eighteen if they want to, if they want 320 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 3: to get up to what would be designated as the 321 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 3: Jeremiah Love spot, would you say that's Arizona and three 322 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 3: or is that too lofty? 323 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 7: I mean if you wanted to absolutely positively guarantee that 324 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 7: you would get them, Like, I think. 325 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 2: That that would be the starting point. 326 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 7: I think people have questions of would Tennessee do it 327 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 7: at four? Like are they in position to do that? 328 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 7: The Giants at five? Would they do it? 329 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 2: They just drafted Camp Scataboo there. 330 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 7: You know, there's a little if with those two and 331 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 7: then the commanders feels pretty obvious if it doesn't happen 332 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 7: at those two, but three would definitely be right, Like 333 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 7: we're guaranteeing you get this guy. 334 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 2: It's a lofty jump up. Okay. 335 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 3: So so when I lay out, people I respect within 336 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 3: the game are saying, yes, the potential for Jeremiah Love 337 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 3: to be a generational type running back. 338 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 2: Would you agree with that? And have you heard the 339 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 2: same things? Yeah? 340 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 7: I asked one of the scouts that I trust, who 341 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 7: evaluates college guys all the time, like, where is he 342 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 7: on the Ashton genty bjeon Jamir Gibbs scale and this 343 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 7: guy said he likes him better than gent come on, 344 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 7: and that he is probably like gibbs Ish Bijon, Like 345 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 7: maybe not Bijeon. 346 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 2: But pretty close to that level in terms of how 347 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 2: people Yeah. 348 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 7: I mean, but the way people talk about these guys 349 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 7: sometimes just like running back, this guy is, I mean, 350 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 7: this guy is like, I mean, this is gonna be 351 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 7: crazy like McCaffrey ish in terms of what he can 352 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 7: do in the passing game. 353 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 2: Holy cow. 354 00:18:55,720 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 3: Okay, well, so so let's let's build it from there. Okay, 355 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 3: And I'm not going to cow. I'm not going to 356 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 3: proclaim whether I think this is a long shot, a 357 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 3: no shot, or a medium shot. I'm just going to 358 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 3: describe the shot and see what you think. So per 359 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 3: the Super Special Trading NFL Draft Trade, jar Arizona spot 360 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 3: is twenty two hundred points. Number three is twenty two 361 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 3: hundred points. The Vikings at eighteen is a nine hundred okay, 362 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 3: So therefore we got thirteen hundred points to make up 363 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 3: here with just a first round swap. So now a 364 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 3: first next year would be required. But you how do 365 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 3: you desire? How do you designate where that first is 366 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 3: going to be? So what I did is I made 367 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 3: it twenty fifth overall pick in the draft. Sure, I 368 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 3: think that's where the Bears pick their division champions. 369 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 2: So let's make it at twenty five. Do you think 370 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 2: that's fair? Yeah? 371 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 3: Okay, twenty five to seven hundred twenty points. So now 372 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, we're up to sixteen hundred. We're 373 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 3: chasing twenty two hundred. You've got six hundred dish points 374 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 3: to make up still, and you've given you're eighteen granted 375 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 3: you get the guy, and you've given the for a 376 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 3: first next year. All right, So the Viking second round 377 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 3: pick this year, number forty nine is a four to ten. Okay, 378 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 3: so now you're pickswap first next year, second this year. 379 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 2: It hurts. 380 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 3: You're still two hundred shot. But if if, I mean 381 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 3: if what people you respect and I respect are saying 382 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 3: is right with Murray Speed, Jefferson Addison in love. I mean, 383 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 3: so anyway, I'm not saying it's a no shot, not 384 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 3: saying it's a long shot, not saying it's a mid shot. 385 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 3: I'm just dissecting the shot. You're still two hundred dish 386 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 3: points that you have to make up, and that's assuming 387 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 3: Arizona doesn't require a premium for putting you in that spot, 388 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 3: and I think that's a fair part of the of 389 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 3: a conversation. So with two hundred dish points to make up, 390 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 3: you can keep the rest of your picks this year 391 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 3: and move Jonathan Grenard. Okay, Now, so if Grenard is 392 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 3: going to get traded, it's it's most likely going to 393 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 3: happen day of draft or around that time. Wouldn't you agree, Yeah, 394 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 3: I mean that would be a likely. 395 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 7: Now that's if he gets traded, and I'm in the 396 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 7: camp right now, we're I think that that's more of 397 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 7: a long shot too. 398 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 2: So do I and I hope we're both right. 399 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 3: But for the for the sake of dissecting the shot, 400 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 3: of course, Well, now you have to designate what value 401 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 3: you would put on Grenard with with the the numerical. 402 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, the points the draft trading chart. 403 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 3: So if you're chasing two hundred, that basically puts you 404 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 3: middle third round. 405 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 2: So it's basically a middle. 406 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 3: Third round pick if it is if it's pick swap 407 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 3: this year, second this year, first next year, and Grenard, 408 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 3: Now they got to pay Jonathan because it's nobody's going 409 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 3: to make that deal unless they're like, yeah, you know, 410 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 3: we want him. Why wouldn't you. He's incredibly good and 411 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 3: we have the ability to pay him. So now that 412 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 3: would that would uh uh just to encapsulate, Vikings get 413 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 3: the three and running back Jeremiah Love. Uh, they get 414 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 3: this year's first and second next year's first plus Grenard 415 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 3: and then you hope the Jets don't snipe you in 416 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:27,719 Speaker 3: front of it, because I could ruin the whole thing 417 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 3: and be the fattest dog ever. 418 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 2: Uh. 419 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 3: Dallas though, Dallas Turner has to absolutely look the part obviously. 420 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 2: And and that that would they would. 421 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 3: Have to have the opinion that he may not be 422 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 3: overall as good as him now, but we believe he 423 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 3: can get there, So obviously that's key. The Vikes would 424 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 3: still have two thirds, a fourth, a fifth, a six 425 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 3: and three sevens. 426 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, so here's the deal. 427 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 7: The idea of Jeremiah Love with this offense is tantalizing. 428 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 7: It's hard not to start to think go through this 429 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 7: to try to figure out a way to try and 430 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:03,199 Speaker 7: make that happen. 431 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 2: But the iss is under well. Obviously, the Vikings would 432 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 2: have to love him, I mean, not. 433 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 7: Lik him, The Vikings love. 434 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 3: Him, Okay, ten of ten, I'm talking right, people, which 435 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 3: would be head coach has to be a ten of 436 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 3: ten on and and I don't know if the guy 437 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 3: is injury history. I mean, like Adrian Peterson when he 438 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 3: went seventh. The only reason Adrian did not go in 439 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 3: the top three to two things here, the Vikings sold 440 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 3: really really well up to the draft. They're going to 441 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 3: take cornerback Leon Hall, who ended up going to Cincinnati, 442 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 3: So they sold that hard. They all goodness. They They 443 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 3: also found a way because of Adrian. Adrian had a 444 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 3: bad collarbone. Well somehow they found a way to perpetuate 445 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 3: the rumor or the belief that this collarbone it's it's 446 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 3: it's a situation. You know, we're not saying we're red 447 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 3: dotting him and he's out, he's out of the chain, 448 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 3: but this collar bone is going to probably keep us away. 449 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 3: Plus we need a corner we love Leon Hall. Well, 450 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 3: then the picks fall here, picks fall there. With the 451 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 3: seventh overall pick in the two thousand and seven National 452 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 3: Football League Draft, the Minnesota Vikings select Adrian Peterson, running 453 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 3: back Oklahoma, and he's going to the ho AF. 454 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, I would say as tantalizing as it is, the 455 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 7: idea of trading a future first a second, and Jonathan 456 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 7: Garnard makes me ill to where I'm gonna go look 457 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 7: for the bathroom in the k Fans studio KFA and Studios. 458 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:37,479 Speaker 7: It's and it's as much as I love the player, 459 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 7: as much as I know that the team loves the player, 460 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 7: like it would have to, in my opinion with Jeremiah Love. 461 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 7: The point at which it would become realistic to start 462 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 7: really talking about this would be like, you know, if 463 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 7: somehow it gets past seven with the Commanders, then you're 464 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 7: talking what do the Saints do at eight? What did 465 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 7: the Chiefs do at nine? They both just paid a 466 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 7: lot for running backs? And then can you get to 467 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 7: like eleven? That would be the point at which you 468 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 7: know it'd be probably more realistic. You're keeping Grenard, but 469 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 7: I would say, yeah, I mean the Grenard. 470 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 3: One and make this I want to make this figa 471 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 3: fairness in Jonathan Grenard act. I really really hope they 472 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 3: don't trade Grenard for personal reasons. 473 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 2: And also he's phenomenal. 474 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 3: He's awesome against the run, and he's an awesome, awesome player. 475 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jonathan Garnard is a great player. 476 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 7: You can you know people listening to this driving around 477 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 7: you guys are probably like, but he only had three 478 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 7: sacks in twenty twenty five, and I would say I 479 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 7: understand that he only played in twelve games, and his 480 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 7: advanced metrics in twenty twenty five. 481 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 2: Were better than they were in twenty twenty four. 482 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 7: So really yeah, past rush win rate, pressure rate, run 483 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 7: stop rate, it was all better. 484 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 2: In twenty twenty five than twenty twenty four. 485 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 3: And remember at Seattle that disastrous day for the geam 486 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 3: when you know he was they were going to dust 487 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 3: him off from injury and he didn't start, and he 488 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 3: was a situational guy. Remember when he finally came in, 489 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 3: how Darnald and the right everybody freaked out for Seattle 490 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 3: pointing people over here, over here, and Flores had it 491 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 3: sniffed out and Grenard either sacked him on the first 492 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 3: play or he deflected a pass or something. 493 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 7: There's I mean, there's a lot with Grenard that I think, 494 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 7: you know something it's hard to notice beyond the sacks, 495 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 7: Like he's selfless enough to not have to be the 496 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 7: guy making the play every single time, which in this 497 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 7: defense is really important. You gotta have guys who don't 498 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 7: aren't just all in on racking up sack numbers, and 499 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 7: he has been a very team player. But yeah, I mean, 500 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 7: I'd say the Grenard thing is interesting because if you 501 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 7: go back, let's say a month and a half, you 502 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:57,959 Speaker 7: could have argued that, Okay, the Commanders per Se needed 503 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 7: edge rushers at that time, and Durante Jones knows Jonathan Garnard, 504 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 7: so you could have said at that time, like, what 505 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 7: if the Vikings traded Grenard did some kind of eighteen 506 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 7: seven swap, and then you'd be in somewhat like that 507 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 7: would have been the Jeremiah Love would That would have 508 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 7: been really interesting. I just think at this point the 509 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 7: Commanders added to edge rushers. The Vikings are in a 510 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 7: spot where they obviously have been public about wanting to 511 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 7: keep Gernard. 512 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 3: So Tennessee was not necessarily in the running back market. 513 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 2: Cam Ward needs a running back. 514 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 7: I mean, yes, but I like Tony Pollard like I 515 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 7: don't know, I'm not like maybe I'm I don't like 516 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 7: him as much I like Jeremiah Love. 517 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 2: But yeah, no, I think the idea is we're talking about. 518 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 7: And it's an interesting question of like, Okay, if somehow 519 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 7: he slid to eleven or Caleb down slides to eleven, like, 520 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 7: what would it take to get there? 521 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 2: Would they be willing to do that? 522 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 7: This team really wanted to have the amount of picks 523 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 7: they have for twenty twenty six, and the idea of 524 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 7: parting with them knowing that they can fill a bunch 525 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 7: of holes with them is something that I don't think 526 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 7: they really want to do unless it's for a guy 527 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 7: they love, which he would be in that vein Jeremiah. 528 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,199 Speaker 3: And the reason I started at three because that, you know, 529 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 3: in dissecting a shot, that's the worst case scenario if 530 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 3: you're in the camp that's like, Okay, well you got 531 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 3: a bunch of holes you got to fill, So it 532 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 3: makes more sense to. 533 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 2: Trade back, which I would agree with. But again, if. 534 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 3: I don't, and and you know you've done this now 535 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 3: for half a decade, you know, and you're super plugged in, man, 536 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 3: we don't. 537 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 2: I can't speak for you. 538 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 3: I don't hear people describe people as generational talent very. 539 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 2: Often, do you know? I've heard it three times this 540 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 2: week now. 541 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 7: I mean this guy, Jeremi love, and there are a 542 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 7: lot of people just think he's the best player in 543 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 7: this draft. 544 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 2: And if it just position, if you remove positions to it. 545 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 7: So, yeah, and the idea of I've said this to you, 546 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 7: I've said this to Nordo, I've said this to listeners 547 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 7: on and write. 548 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 2: I've said this in writing. 549 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 7: The idea of having a generational talent at that position 550 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 7: and what that would do for the conviction and the 551 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 7: play caller calling runs, you know, sticking with the run game. 552 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 7: I do think that would be a major importance. I 553 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 7: also know they value this position. It's why they were 554 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 7: in on Travis. I think he pronounced his last name 555 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 7: at this point atn but he says he pronounced his 556 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 7: name differently. 557 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 2: They were in there. 558 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 7: But the Saints paid him a lot of money and 559 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 7: the Vikings weren't willing to go. 560 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 2: That far so. 561 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 5: In that neighborhood. 562 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 3: Yes, maybe I should know this. So, so you reported 563 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 3: they were in the d that's correct. Oh geez, Yeah, 564 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 3: that's a little bit of a tell here. 565 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 566 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 7: I mean, well they yeah, I mean they value the 567 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 7: running back position. And so it's why again, if you 568 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 7: see Jeremiah Love on the board at ten, If I do, 569 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 7: and I'm sitting in the TCO Performance Center that night, 570 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 7: I'm starting to lean forward in my chair like that 571 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 7: meme of the video game, because I just he's just 572 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 7: that talented a player. 573 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 2: I don't think there's any way he's gonna fall that far. 574 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 7: So it's a little bit of a moot point, but 575 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 7: it's worth a discussion because of to. 576 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 2: Your point, he is that level of talent. 577 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 3: Well, at least that's what I'm being told, and I 578 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 3: think we both believe it. Yeah, Now you know who 579 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 3: else values running back? The Super Bowl champion Seattle Seahawks, 580 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 3: the Kansas City Chiefs who went out to get the MVP, 581 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 3: Howie Roseman, who made it an a topic to get 582 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 3: Sakwan Barklay the next level, Gooty with Lafleura in Green Bay, 583 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 3: with Jacobs, Ben Johnson with the way he does things. 584 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 3: So I mean, it's age old. In the NFL, which 585 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 3: is described as a passing league and stuff like that, 586 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 3: when you have and this cannot be disputed, when you 587 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 3: have the right running game and the right tight ends, 588 00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 3: you're going to be awfully tough to beat. 589 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 7: It makes everything so much easier. And I think with 590 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 7: the running back like I view it kind of and 591 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 7: I've been told this isn't like me coming up with this, 592 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 7: Like there are running backs who can hit singles, and 593 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 7: hit doubles. And then there are running backs that can 594 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 7: get you over the fence where it's blocked for four 595 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 7: and you get me twelve, or where it's blocked for 596 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 7: five and you get me twenty five. 597 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 2: And that's what Saquon was for the Super Bowl. 598 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 7: Team, That's what Travis Atm has been for the Jaguars, 599 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 7: That's what Kenneth Walker was in the Super Bowl for 600 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 7: the Seahawks. And so the Vikings, I would say, since 601 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 7: Kevin O'Connell got here in twenty twenty. 602 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 2: Two, have they had that guy? I'd pose a question 603 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 2: to you guys, Well, Dalvin was closed. 604 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 7: Dalvin was, but he was obviously at the tail end 605 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 7: for him. But have they had that guy since then 606 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 7: that can get twelve when it's blocked for four. 607 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 2: No, they have not. And I. 608 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 7: Think that affects, like, you know, how we talk about 609 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 7: the run game and just the evaluation of does coach 610 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 7: and play color stick. 611 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 2: To the run game. That's obviously a data point in 612 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 2: his mind. It would have to be. 613 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 5: You would think, well, I think, and you're gonna you 614 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 5: did the conversation with Adam Kaplan PA and listeners are 615 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 5: gonna get to hear that next hour and it was 616 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 5: a terrific chat, but it's going to be brought up 617 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 5: during that and now I'll just throw this out there 618 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 5: now just kind of I wonder how teams value this 619 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 5: draft in totality. So we're wincing at the idea of 620 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 5: them giving up that first round or in that second rounder, 621 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 5: but would they value a generational talent and Jeremiah Love 622 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 5: more than the defensive tackle they'll get in the second round, 623 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 5: And and just kind of wanging that and how that 624 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 5: potentially turns this draft if if it's lighter on elite, 625 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 5: high end bits and Jeremiah Love considered the best overall 626 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 5: player in this draft generational talent, as you've heard multiple 627 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 5: times this week. One thing that possibly does, though, is 628 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 5: skyrockets the value of that third pick. What if we 629 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 5: are not the only team that is calling Arizona. So 630 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 5: for me, if if he's true, if you could guarantee, 631 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 5: which you can't, if you could guarantee that this was 632 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 5: the next Adrian like player what you described in a trade. 633 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 5: You do that every single time, and I don't think 634 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 5: you hesitate regardless of the various holes that need to 635 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 5: be filled, because it isn't just twenty twenty six. This 636 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 5: is a cultural builder here if he's that type of player. 637 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,479 Speaker 5: But I just wonder how expensive it's going to get 638 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 5: and how trade crazy Thursday Night could be if they 639 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 5: look at this draft and say, the best of the 640 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 5: linebackers is here. I got to be there because I 641 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 5: can get a guy on Day two and I don't 642 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 5: feel that great about him. I just wonder how they 643 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 5: value the draft and how that could raise the value 644 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 5: of a trade for those who are really into the 645 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 5: NFL Draft. And you've listened to the first thirty seven 646 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 5: minutes of the show, the final segment or one of 647 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 5: the final two segments commencing about eleven thirty eleven thirty 648 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 5: five involves this conversation. So at the free iHeartRadio app, 649 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 5: if you want to leave talkbacks on what we were 650 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 5: talking about about going from eighteen up to three and 651 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 5: what we've put into it, than by all means offer 652 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 5: your opinion and we definitely will play some back. Then 653 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 5: off what Nordo just said. 654 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 3: What you're going to hear from Adam Kaplan is he 655 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 3: didn't say it was a bad draft, you know, but 656 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,839 Speaker 3: that he early in the conversation. He's going to say 657 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 3: it's the best tight end draft in the last fifteen years. 658 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 2: Wow. 659 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 3: And I'm like, okay, well, I mean I'm not you know, 660 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 3: we didn't invite you into the neighborhood to sit back 661 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 3: in and throw tomato cans at you and try to 662 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 3: take you deep. But let's be mindful than in twenty 663 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 3: twenty three Laporta, Tucker Kraft, Dalton Kincaid and that was 664 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 3: pretty good tight ends draft. 665 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 2: And so so he backpedaled a little bit. 666 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 3: But it's I mean nine to noon's We've talked about 667 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 3: it now quite extensively about the depth and the rich 668 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 3: nature of the multifaceted tight ends all the way through 669 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 3: early Saturday. You know, this, this Sidique, this Sadiq looks 670 00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 3: like he's going to be a cinch to be not 671 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,720 Speaker 3: only a tight end, but tight end in New age 672 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 3: football where you can play slot, he can play outside. 673 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 3: He went four to three at the combine, no worries 674 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 3: about him off the field. Then you you have a 675 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 3: Roush from Stanford who I'm catching wind, a lot of 676 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 3: people like Eli Stowers from band here, people who are like, 677 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 3: you know, you're not going to put him in line 678 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 3: to you know, to bust you up, like Josh Oliver, 679 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 3: You're not going to follow him in the running game 680 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 3: all the time. He might be the best true pass 681 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 3: catching tight end in the NFL. Michael In the second round. 682 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 3: There's this cat from Baylor, last name Trig. Where you know, 683 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,879 Speaker 3: I'm just hearing awesome things about five tight ends here 684 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 3: so much so where I'm like, I wouldn't mind the Vikings, 685 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 3: certainly considering one at eighteen when you balance what you 686 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 3: need now, because too many people look at the draft 687 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,760 Speaker 3: as what you have to have right now. Yeah, where 688 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 3: general manager and personnel people they want to help them now, 689 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 3: but they want to fortify the forever. And and you know, like, 690 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 3: why are you taking Kenyon Sadiq? Well, I mean three, 691 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,800 Speaker 3: four or five years down the road may may answer 692 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 3: that question, you know, Well. 693 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 2: I mean TJ. 694 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 7: Hockinson is now in the final year of his deal, 695 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 7: and if he has a phenomenal I keep saying that 696 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 7: word for some reason, this sporting TJ phenomenal. 697 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 2: If TJ. 698 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 7: Hockinson has a great twenty twenty six season, then he's 699 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 7: probably gonna get paid a lot. And can this team 700 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 7: afford to pay him with all the other things they're 701 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 7: gonna have to pay? I think it's a fair question. 702 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 7: If he has a pretty down season, you're probably gonna 703 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 7: be looking for a different tight end. So I mean 704 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,760 Speaker 7: the idea of a tight end is is definitely intriguing. 705 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:47,399 Speaker 7: Sadik is like, I mean, that guy is such a 706 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 7: weapon and he is a willing blocker, He is a 707 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 7: really I was thinking about this yesterday, Like if you 708 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 7: added him to what they have, I mean, just the 709 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 7: amount of explosiveness in the passing game and dynamic of 710 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 7: bil you would be would be pretty interesting. But I 711 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,479 Speaker 7: don't know, Like this team has a lot of needs. 712 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 2: We talked about center. I think I'd be pretty surprised. 713 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,720 Speaker 7: If they get through the twenty twenty six draft without 714 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 7: drafting the center, Sam Hack receiver. I think receiver is 715 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 7: definitely another option there. I'd say, you know, you look 716 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 7: at defensive tackle, safety for sure, Like those those are 717 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 7: some of the ones that are sure fire. 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Are 753 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:45,319 Speaker 3: you kidding me? 754 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 2: I don't know. I wouldn't. 755 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 7: Maybe, if it's possible, I'm gonna do everything I can't. 756 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 2: I just look at hamstring. Thing ain't good. Yeah, that 757 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 2: they get the. 758 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 3: I mean, that's changes. It's the whole complexion of a 759 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 3: six y three. 760 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 2: He's averaged like thirty eight a game or something. 761 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 7: I haven't watched a lot of NBA of late, which 762 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:04,280 Speaker 7: probably doesn't help my bid for the credentialing for the playoffs. 763 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 2: Where you're following the wild so closely. I mean, yeah, 764 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,320 Speaker 2: how could you follow it all? Plus the NFL jex. 765 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 3: To me last night about you're off being a healthy 766 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 3: scratch x amount of games and them elevating him last night. 767 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 3: Why to fortify him and believe and have him and 768 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,320 Speaker 3: believe in him and show show him that they believe 769 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 3: in him. 770 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:22,799 Speaker 2: That was a wonderful day. 771 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,720 Speaker 7: I mean, honestly, like when you're thinking about Bobby Brink 772 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 7: and you're thinking about mcaren and the I mean, McCarran 773 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 7: is massive, he is towering. 774 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 2: But yeah, hopefully I can do some NBA playoffs stuff. 775 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 2: We'll see. 776 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 3: Did you go to Johnny Athletics event last Friday at 777 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:40,720 Speaker 3: head Flyer Tavern? 778 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 7: I did not, but it looked electric. It looked I 779 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,239 Speaker 7: we had dinner stuff and I couldn't go. 780 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 3: But threats of bad roads and ice and stuff like that. 781 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 3: John though ice as in accumulation of water when it 782 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 3: freezing correct Friday, we need to be careful. 783 00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 5: I would have been a good place to go if 784 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,279 Speaker 5: you wanted that NBA work to support your teammate. I 785 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 5: thought that that would have been a shoe in If 786 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 5: you do want to be row five recording chats honestly. 787 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:10,279 Speaker 2: And recognize Aaron Freeman's birthday. It was it was. I 788 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:11,959 Speaker 2: mean I saw Mike and Norry and John. 789 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 7: I mean it had been an unbelievable experience for the 790 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 7: folks that had flair. 791 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 3: Tell us about and I'm being serious with this, tell 792 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 3: us about Orange Beach, Alabama. And here's why. I ask 793 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 3: A dear friend of mine named Andy. Andy Pothan and 794 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 3: his family did spring break there and sent me some 795 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 3: pictures from something called Orange Beach in Alabama. 796 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks so beautiful. Are you familiar? I am familiar. 797 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 7: I didn't spend a lot of time going like going 798 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:47,840 Speaker 7: to Orange Beach. I think it's near, kind of like 799 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,760 Speaker 7: Fair Hope area, mobile ish type of air. 800 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 2: Fifty miles east of Anniston. I don't know if that's 801 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:55,880 Speaker 2: accurate or not, things it is. 802 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 7: I am going to the beach though, in Florida in 803 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,720 Speaker 7: a few weeks, right before the draft fresh up. You're ready, 804 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 7: so I'm good for those late nights, day one, day two, 805 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:04,320 Speaker 7: so I'm looking. 806 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 2: Forward to it. 807 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 5: I'll be in golf shores this summer is really fact 808 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,320 Speaker 5: in Alabama. So any family down in the golf Shores 809 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 5: area that I could say hello too. 810 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 2: I don't believe so, but that's kind of Orange Beach territory. 811 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 2: What's what's Alabama weather like in the summer? Hot? Is 812 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,360 Speaker 2: it humid? The most humid? 813 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 7: You walk outside and you're sure your hair the way 814 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 7: I'm looking at your hair right, it would be it 815 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:27,759 Speaker 7: would be tough. 816 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 2: No, I think it looks fine. It'd be it's already. 817 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 3: Einstein ask if Pieneman goes to the Dolphins at eleven 818 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,280 Speaker 3: because I think the I think the Dolphins with Halfley 819 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 3: as the coach and fortification needed all over the place, 820 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 3: but specifically defensively. And then you know, one thing that 821 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 3: I always have felt was underrated with people when they 822 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 3: analyzed the draft is they give you tells in free agency. 823 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 3: I mean, like the the Chicago Bears. I'm not saying 824 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,759 Speaker 3: they won't draft a defensive player, but I mean from 825 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,399 Speaker 3: I think it was Devin Bush to Neville gall More 826 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 3: to the big trade with Seattle with Kobe Bryant, I mean, 827 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 3: they've done so much defensively. Of course they could take 828 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 3: a defensive player mid twenties, but I think Ben's going 829 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,160 Speaker 3: to look to amplify what's already good and a lot 830 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 3: of good coaches have done that for a long time, 831 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 3: taking what's good and making it great. So like Miami 832 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 3: with the defensive play calling head coach and Jeff Haffley 833 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,359 Speaker 3: and then Javon Holland left, and I think he's good, 834 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 3: not great, but looking at the landscape of what they do, 835 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 3: that that could be. It's Caleb downs right for Ohio State. Yeah, 836 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 3: that could be a spot like for him or for Theenemen. 837 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:45,239 Speaker 3: You know, it's I learned this week that theeneman's position flexibility. 838 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 3: He plays all over the place, and he's really good 839 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:52,279 Speaker 3: opposite certain players in the slot, right up on them 840 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 3: on the line in certain downs and distances. Not in 841 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:59,839 Speaker 3: all situations, but like if if a safety or if 842 00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 3: the Oregon guy theenum and goes eleventh to Miami, do 843 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,759 Speaker 3: you think that Jack's up Minnesota's plan. 844 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 7: I mean, it is interesting to consider with how every 845 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:15,320 Speaker 7: mock draft person, whether it's Daniel Jeremiah Field, Yates, Jordan Reed, 846 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,800 Speaker 7: Dane Brugler, Bruce Feldman did one this past week and 847 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 7: he had Theenem in like everybody has projected Dylan Theenem 848 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:24,280 Speaker 7: into the Vikings. 849 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 2: It's it's honestly but why do you think that is? 850 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 2: I mean it because we're not the only ones with steam. 851 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 7: No, it's probably pretty clear that the Viking I mean, 852 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 7: it is clear the Vikings have a safety need and 853 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:40,640 Speaker 7: that this guy fits from a character high, high energy 854 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 7: experience coming from Oregon standpoint, So it makes this but 855 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,359 Speaker 7: it is interesting to consider if a team snagged him 856 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 7: before then then what like then what do the Vikings do? 857 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 7: Theenem in is very like what what is I found 858 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 7: watching the tape? He plays like a if you think 859 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,440 Speaker 7: about like a Tampa two coverage where you got the 860 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 7: middle linebacker running the middle of the field. 861 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:04,839 Speaker 2: Yeah. 862 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:09,320 Speaker 7: In the Oregon system, he kind of played right there, 863 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 7: like in the in the linebacker role in the Kyle 864 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 7: Hamilton spot, Yeah kind of. I mean yeah, I would 865 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 7: say it's like a very Georgia defense where they play 866 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,759 Speaker 7: three safety ish and then the middle safety is. 867 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 2: Kind of like in the more linebacker role. 868 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,919 Speaker 7: So it was an interesting position for him, and it's 869 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 7: interesting to watch the tape. I thought Dylan Dieneman looked 870 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:36,839 Speaker 7: really good coming forward tackling. He's he's pretty solid there. 871 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 7: He's gotten better at it. You could see from the 872 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,600 Speaker 7: Purdue tape to the Oregon tape. He's gotten better there 873 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 7: going backwards. It's it Sometimes you start to kind of 874 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,839 Speaker 7: hold onto your seat a little bit because he gets 875 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 7: a little turned around in coverage. 876 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 2: But he's an interesting player. 877 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,680 Speaker 7: If he is snagged, then yeah, I mean you start 878 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 7: to really wonder what do you do at eighteen? 879 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 2: I mean I've been curious, like, could you trade back? Yeah? 880 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:02,560 Speaker 2: Could you? I'm a fan of that. 881 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,759 Speaker 7: Could you get to twenty five or twenty six, pick 882 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 7: up another Day three pick like in the eighties or something, 883 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,320 Speaker 7: and then you still can get a player you really 884 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,719 Speaker 7: like and then you add another player in Day three 885 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 7: That would be an I would be a fan of that. 886 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:20,759 Speaker 7: I just don't know how many teams are gonna want 887 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,799 Speaker 7: to come up in this draft. All right, last one? 888 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:24,560 Speaker 7: Who do you like this weekend? 889 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 2: And why? 890 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 3: Illinois against Yukon, Michigan, Michigan and Arizona. That Michigan Arizona game. Man, 891 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:32,799 Speaker 3: that thing might be unbelievable. 892 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,880 Speaker 7: I mean they both should be fantastic. Illinois and Arizona, 893 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 7: I feel like, are the two best teams. And then 894 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,200 Speaker 7: I think Arizona's gonna win it all. But Illinois, I 895 00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,840 Speaker 7: mean watching that team is crazy. They are all they're six', 896 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,960 Speaker 7: ten six,' Eleven The, eastern, BLOCK bitch i believe from. 897 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,440 Speaker 7: It's nuts and then the point guard is the craziest. 898 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 7: Story ever the guy was one hundred and fiftieth in 899 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 7: recruit point Guard From. 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