1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: It's nice with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Boston's Knee Radio. 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: Good evening everyone, and happy Monday. There's something to be 3 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 2: happy about when we would get into the month of February. 4 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 2: But before I start the program tonight, I just wanted 5 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: to acknowledge the pain that the fishing community in Gloucester 6 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 2: must be dealing with and suffering with tonight. And although 7 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 2: it's not a subject to that likely will ever become 8 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: a subject of this talk show, but sometimes we forget 9 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 2: what sacrifice fishing families and fishing communities make in order 10 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 2: for us to have the fruit of the sea on 11 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: our plates. And I just wanted to acknowledge, really briefly 12 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: before we start tonight, the crew of this ship that 13 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: no one understands what happened to the Lily Jean, which 14 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 2: sank for no apparent reason twenty miles offshore, and I 15 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: just wanted to acknowledge the names of the seven people 16 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 2: who lost their lives, Captain Gus San Filippo, crew members 17 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: Paul Beale Senior, his son, Paul Beale Junior, John Rusnidis, 18 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 2: Freeman Short, and Sean Terrian Autherian, as well as a 19 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 2: Federal Fisheries observer Jadda Summit Summit, who is from I 20 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 2: believe Vermont was all of them lost their lives at sea. 21 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 2: It reminds us very much of the movie from the 22 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: early nineteen nineties about the loss of a fisherman here 23 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 2: from Massachusetts. And I just again, I don't want to 24 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 2: put it down from the evening for anyone, but I 25 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: just felt it was important to mention that and to 26 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: show that life, you know, for those families and for 27 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 2: everyone else, is going to go on. We needed to 28 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 2: celebrate Truck Day at Fenway Park and it was great 29 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 2: to see the truck pull out off to Fort Myers. 30 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: And hope does spring internal that baseball will come back 31 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 2: and we'll come back in late March. Actually the Red 32 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: Talk Shop up against the San Diego padres. Now tonight 33 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: on the program, we are going to talk with Heather 34 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 2: bish and journalist and reporter a friend of mine who 35 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 2: I work with at Jennifour, Kathy Current, about again that 36 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: horrific disappearance of Molly Bish back in July of two thousand. 37 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 2: It's impossible to think that it's been twenty six years, 38 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 2: but maybe there's someone out there tonight who might have 39 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 2: some insight in that story. That will be at nine 40 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 2: o'clock tonight, and then we're going to talk at ten 41 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: about it seems to be a bit of a change 42 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 2: of strategy, maybe tactics. President Trump made some comments over 43 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: the weekend, and I might make a suggestion or two 44 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 2: as to how the whole situation can settled down a 45 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: little bit. But that's that's later on. First, I'll tell 46 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 2: you Rob Brooks is back in the control room. He's 47 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 2: all set for tonight. And it's also Rob, it's your 48 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 2: brother's birthday. Correct. What is your brother's first name? Kevin, 49 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 2: kep Kevin Brooks hit the magic number of forty five. 50 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: He's a young man, Rob, So that's that's an excellent thing. 51 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 2: Please wish him happy birthday. This is your brother that 52 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 2: works on the West Coast. If I'm not mistaken, right, 53 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 2: Oh okay, so he's still here. Okay, fine, wasn't sure, Okay, 54 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 2: just double double checking. So anyway, I just did a 55 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 2: little bit of a different show open tonight. But we 56 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 2: are going to get right to our four guests. During 57 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 2: the first hour, we're going to talk about romance scams, 58 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 2: going to talk about the worst Valentine's gifts, that you 59 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 2: could possibly give, going to talk about Massachusetts sports betting 60 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: a forecast, and also going to talk about the workforce, 61 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 2: the country's workforce. They're not burned out, but they're grieving 62 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 2: and a little apprehensive, but with the future. Mndhold. Let's 63 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 2: start off with Paula Fleming of the Better Business Bureau 64 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 2: here in Boston, the Boston Better Business Bureau. Hi, Paula, 65 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 2: how are you tonight? She is the chief mod Good 66 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 2: good evening to you. So, Paula, romance scams are those 67 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 2: still around? I mean, obviously they are, and there is 68 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 2: people who you know are looking for some romance, particularly 69 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 2: at this time of year. So please, what warnings do 70 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 2: you have for our listeners. 71 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, so they are absolutely still around. They are actually 72 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 3: a growing threat, and scammers are actively exploiting people seeking 73 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 3: connections by posing as these love interests online and they 74 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 3: can really emotionally harm and financially harm people. And it's 75 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 3: very unfortunate, and we want your listeners to arm themselves 76 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 3: with knowledge on how to protect themselves. It sounds straightforward, 77 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 3: you're looking for love online, and unfortunately we've all heard 78 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 3: about it, these cat fishing scams. They're still very prevalent. 79 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 2: Okay, Now, the question that I have is is there 80 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: a group by age that is more susceptible or is 81 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 2: being more or being targeted. Is it young people that 82 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 2: are falling prey? Is it middle aged folks going through 83 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 2: a midline crisis. Is it senior citizens who maybe find 84 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: themselves alone and they're looking for companionship, or all of 85 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: the above. 86 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 3: It is all of the above. This does not discriminate. 87 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 3: It could be any gender, any age, any background. It's 88 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 3: we're seeing it unfortunately, really run the gamut when we're 89 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 3: receiving these scam notifications from people throughout the United States. Again, 90 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 3: they fall you know, people are It's not just February 91 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 3: when it's Valentine's Day, it's all year round, but more 92 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:25,799 Speaker 3: prevalent now during this month that we see an uptick 93 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 3: in this. So many victims are reluctant to speak up 94 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 3: because of embarrassment or emotional attachments. So I estimate that 95 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 3: there is unfortunately not we don't even have a really 96 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 3: accurate view on just how bad this is happening. And again, 97 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 3: it's all ages, all backgrounds, So give. 98 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 2: Us I'm sure every approach is a little different. Obviously 99 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 2: a lot of is fishing as wonderful as computers were 100 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 2: when they arrived about thirty or so years ago, particularly 101 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 2: personal home computers, people can reach it can get to you. 102 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 2: In the old days that have to send you a 103 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 2: letter through the mail and maybe call you on the phone. 104 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 2: Now they're able to really reach people who are, as 105 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 2: you said, you know, looking for some companionship over the computer. 106 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 2: Give us an example of how it might start and 107 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 2: what people should be thinking about. It's one thing for 108 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 2: us to say be aware, but what should they be 109 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 2: aware of? 110 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 4: Yeah? 111 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 3: Absolutely so. What we're seeing is that people are using 112 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 3: fake identities on dating apps, social media sites or IF 113 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 3: platforms to build that trust and affection with the intent 114 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 3: to steal your money, personal information, and it can get 115 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 3: really scary. So please be aware. If a profile that 116 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 3: seems too perfect or moves communication off the platform immediately, 117 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 3: it's a huge sign for a romance scam. If they're 118 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 3: requesting money, especially via wire transfer, you want to be 119 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 3: extremely cautious. Uses to avoid video calls and consistent inability 120 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 3: to meet a person is another huge red fellag that 121 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 3: we want people to be aware of. We are seeing 122 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 3: new trends and emerging variants of these romance scams, which 123 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 3: I've been doing this reporting on scams for nearly twenty 124 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 3: five years now, so we are seeing new trends and 125 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 3: they include this new offer to pay bills or become 126 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:31,239 Speaker 3: a sugar mama or daddy that are actually scams in disguise. 127 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 3: So we're seeing a plethora of those come in and 128 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 3: also fake dating websites that charge fees but deliver no 129 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 3: real service or connection. So people enter in a credit card, 130 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 3: they pay up to ten thousand dollars for these you know, 131 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 3: promises of a wealthy partner and finding love in the end, 132 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 3: and then unfortunately they're out. You know, they they have 133 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 3: at times have wired money or used their even bank cards. 134 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 3: So we want people to be extremely cautious when they're 135 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 3: trying to find love online. Wow, I know it's a lot. 136 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 2: First of all the numbers that you're talking about. Again, 137 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 2: if anybody reaches out to you and you don't know 138 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 2: that person, you have to check them out and you 139 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 2: have to you have to get some more information. If 140 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 2: someone just parachutes into your life, that should alone be 141 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 2: an absolute red flag, a flaming red flag. With all 142 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 2: of a sudden, you got someone now who has sent 143 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:44,839 Speaker 2: you a text trying to establish a relationship out of nowhere. 144 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 2: That I'm telling you that is, there's no reason that 145 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 2: anybody should say to anyone a text, unless unless you're 146 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 2: introduced by someone who you trust. I mean, it's as 147 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 2: simple as that. If if you have, you know, an 148 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 2: old school chom who says to you, you know, there's someone 149 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 2: a friend of mine that I think would be a 150 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 2: great match for you, that's a different story. But when 151 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 2: all of a sudden you get that cold email that 152 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 2: is promising you the world, just you know, think to yourself, 153 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 2: who would be approaching you and why would they be 154 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 2: approaching you? So I guess that's that's my added admonition, Paula, 155 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: and I hope it is. I hope none of my 156 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 2: listeners get get taken here, particularly in the next few 157 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 2: weeks in advance of Valentine's Day. Thanks so much, paul 158 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 2: If folks want to get information on the scams, there's 159 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 2: got to be a good website. I know you'll always 160 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 2: have something for us. Where should they go. 161 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 3: BBB dot RG BBB dot org has all the information 162 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 3: you need to protect yourself. 163 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 2: That's the best. You're the best, Paula. Thank you so 164 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 2: much my pleasure. I really mean that this is a 165 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 2: public service that you're doing on I'm so happy to 166 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 2: be able to to help you spread the word. Thanks again, 167 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 2: we'll talk soon. Happy Valentine's Day, Paula. 168 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 5: It's the same to you, all right. 169 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 2: When we get back, I'm going to give you some tips. 170 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 2: Are the twenty worst Valentines Day gifts you should never give. 171 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 2: Going to talk with Valerie Socolowski. She's an etiquette expert, 172 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 2: author and a master brand strategist. Coming back on Nightside. 173 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: You're on Nightside with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news radio. 174 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 2: Well, for you sports fans, there is one more football 175 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 2: game left in the NFL season, and some of you 176 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 2: might have heard of it. It's the Super Bowl and 177 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 2: there's a team from New England just down the road 178 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 2: in Foxboro at Gillette Stadium who is competing against the 179 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 2: team on the West Coast in Santa Clara, California. I 180 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 2: know that everybody in my audience knows that I'm talking 181 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 2: about something that everybody is thinking about, and someone who 182 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 2: is thinking about it a lot as a fell named 183 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 2: Joel Maloney, and Joe is the president of the Sports 184 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 2: Betting Alliance. Joe, welcome to Nightside. How are you tonight? 185 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 2: Thank you very much from doing it up here. We're 186 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 2: having a little bit of trouble reaching one of our guests, 187 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 2: and you were kind enough to move up a little bit. 188 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 2: Tell us, Joe, what is the Sports Betting Alliance. You're 189 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 2: not someone who's taken making book. 190 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 4: I assume no, no, I do not run a book. 191 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 2: I had a little fun with you. Go ahead tell us. 192 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 2: Of course. 193 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 4: I represent the five largest online, legal, regulated online sports 194 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 4: books BET three sixty five, Fanatics, DraftKings, BETAMGM, and fan Duel, 195 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 4: and we're a trade advocacy organization that's dedicated to expanding 196 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 4: legalization of online sports wagering and I gaming throughout the 197 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 4: country and in jurisdiction such as Massachusetts where online sports 198 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 4: wagering is legal and regulated and live. We seek to 199 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 4: communicate the benefits of legalization. 200 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 2: Okay, Joe, don't be offended by this. But what you've 201 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 2: just told me is you're a lobbyist, which is fine. 202 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 2: Every industry in America has a right to have people 203 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,479 Speaker 2: advocating on behalf of the industry. 204 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 4: It's the easiest way to describe what I do to 205 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 4: my friends from home. I'm from Western Massachusetts, so I'm 206 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 4: not offended at the at the at the you know, 207 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 4: I just do. 208 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 2: You look, I I understand that, and I just I 209 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 2: always want to be respectful to my guests. Okay, we're 210 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 2: about some western Massachusetts. Did you grow up? 211 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,359 Speaker 1: I grew up in Hollo Holio. 212 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 2: The hometown to show you I'm a sports guy, the 213 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 2: hometown of one of the first Yankee bonus babies, Frank 214 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 2: Lee Jump. Do you remember him? His reputation for sure. 215 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 4: Well, there's a lot of legendary baseball players to come out. 216 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:48,719 Speaker 4: Hoyo fran Healy. 217 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 2: Who is from Yankees and the Royals, amongst others. 218 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 4: And then and then Mark Wohlers, a noted closer, first 219 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,719 Speaker 4: world champion Atlanta Braids. Yeah, that's right. 220 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 2: Okay, Holy I remember growing I mean LEGI was one 221 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 2: of the first bonus babies who at the city of 222 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 2: the Yankee s bench for a couple of years back 223 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 2: in those days. He and there was another guy named 224 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 2: Tommy Carroll who had played at Notre Dame. Of the 225 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 2: two big Yankee bonus babies, and no one could find 226 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: Carol at the end of his career when they would 227 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 2: do reunions of Yankee players. Carol ended up having a 228 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 2: career post baseball in the CIA. It was deep undercover. 229 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 4: That's great. 230 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, anyway, so let's talk about sports betting, which 231 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 2: which you well prepared to talk about. The industry is booming, 232 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 2: as as everyone knows, there's gonna be one point seven 233 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 2: billion dollars bet on the Super Bowl. I was a 234 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 2: little surprised. I thought that the number would would have 235 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 2: been bigger because you know, we are a country of 236 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 2: what three hundred and thirty million people. Now that averages 237 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 2: out every man, woman, and child somewhere around five dollars 238 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 2: a person. But I thought that that, and I know 239 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 2: that it goes up every year. Tell us about Massachusetts. 240 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 2: I have to assume there's going to be a lot 241 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 2: of action in Massachusetts this weekend. 242 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 4: That's right. It certainly spikes when the hometown team is 243 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 4: making a deep run of the playoffs and obviously on 244 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 4: it's way the Super Bowl. So yeah, one point seventy 245 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 4: one billion nationally, which reflects growth for two big reasons, 246 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 4: which I'll get to in a second. But let me 247 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 4: answer your question first. For our legal wager forecast for 248 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 4: the state of Massachusetts, we're looking at nearly eighty million 249 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 4: to be legally wagered across the state on the Big 250 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 4: Game on Sunday. And again it's you know, Massachusetts has 251 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 4: been a pretty mature gaming state since you guys established 252 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 4: land based casinos and then added in an online sports wagering, 253 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 4: and then it's obviously a sports crazed state. 254 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 6: So yeah, if you do the math, we have seven 255 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 6: million people now in Massachusetts, so if we're going to 256 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 6: bet eighty million dollars, it's going to average about ten 257 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 6: dollars a person, and obviously a lot of those people. 258 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 2: Are not going to What do you think the average 259 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 2: I guess it is probably almost impossible to say what 260 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 2: the average bet will be because we got all the 261 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 2: prop bets going on as well, what you know of 262 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 2: the people who will bet, some. 263 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 4: People three analysts are to are able to, you know, 264 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 4: take a look at some betting patterns and extract data 265 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 4: from you know, data financial firms like a TransUnion and such. 266 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 4: You know, the average bet at a legal sports book 267 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 4: in this country is thirteen dollars, which you know, again 268 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 4: you know, the vast majority of bets are five and 269 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 4: ten bucks. But as you know, the expression there's a 270 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 4: lot of whales out there that like a lot more 271 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 4: action than the average Joe or Jane, and and so 272 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 4: those folks can obviously bloat and inflate that figure. But 273 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 4: you know, generally speaking, people put down a couple of bucks. 274 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 4: I think, you know, the expansion of this as a 275 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 4: form of entertainment throughout the country has made it a 276 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 4: lot more socially acceptable. People are a lot more open. Hey, 277 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 4: I put five bucks on the game, or hey, I 278 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 4: think Drake May is going to throw two or more touchdown, 279 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 4: so I put five bucks on on a prop bet 280 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 4: on his performance. It's gaining a lot more social acceptance 281 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 4: as it's come out of the shadows and now into 282 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 4: the light of day. 283 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, and I think there's it's a form of entertainment. 284 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 2: And just as someone would go to the bar as 285 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 2: opposed to sitting at home by themselves and drinking beer 286 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 2: which out of the refrigerator costs nothing, they go to 287 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 2: the barn pay six seven dollars for a couple of beers, 288 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 2: but they have the camaraderie of some other people watching 289 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 2: the same event. You also, if you're a Patriots fan, 290 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 2: you got ten dollars on the game. Or something, as 291 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 2: long as you keep it under control. That's the concern 292 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 2: that I think most people who who still have some 293 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 2: skepticism about it. And I do know that the industry 294 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 2: does try to discourage people from getting in too deep, 295 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 2: too deeply, because obviously that, like any habit, if it 296 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 2: becomes addictive, it's problematic. And I assume that you would agree. 297 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 4: With that, oh absolutely. I mean, I think, you know, 298 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 4: the big thing that our organization really preaches is regulatory compliance. 299 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 4: And you know, we are only permitted to operate when 300 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 4: the people of a given jurisdiction decide it's okay to 301 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 4: have legalized gambling, whether that's by ballot referendum or whether 302 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 4: that's by the General Assembly voting it through. And I 303 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 4: think most importantly, you know we are regulated. You know, 304 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 4: the Mass Gaming Commission suffers no fools. They hold operators 305 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 4: that I represent to account. It's an important set of commissioners, 306 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 4: along with the regulatory staff, that make sure that we 307 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 4: are fulfilling all duties and obligations of the statute as 308 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 4: passed by the legislature, as signed by Governor Baker a 309 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 4: few years ago. And those are rules of the road 310 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 4: and that must be followed, and one of those rules 311 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 4: is the mandating of what's called responsible gaming tools, things 312 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 4: like wager limits, deposit limits, time on app limits. If 313 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 4: you're all things that are available one two clicks away 314 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 4: inside of these apps for the members that I represent. 315 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 4: So ultimately, what it comes down to you is individuals 316 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 4: have the opportunity to take advantage of these tools. And 317 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 4: we really try to communicate if these tools are for everybody, 318 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 4: They're not just for folks that might have a problem 319 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 4: or whose gambling can become disordered. We really want far 320 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 4: more and wider adoption of these tools. You know, companies 321 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 4: are having what's called activity tracking tools within their apps, 322 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 4: so you can see how much you've wagered, how much 323 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 4: you want, how much you've lost, and if you want 324 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 4: the ability to self exclude, if you want the ability 325 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 4: to take a rest, you can do that with one 326 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 4: click in these apps. Illegal websites, which is what a 327 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 4: lot of folks were using before legalization, none of these 328 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 4: things were available. They didn't pay no heed at all 329 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 4: to taking care of their customers violating their data privacy. 330 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 4: So these are all available to folks now in regulated 331 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 4: markets like Massachusetts. 332 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the things that screwed the heck out 333 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 2: of me twenty years ago. When I would see friends 334 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 2: of mine, I would rather have bet with a local bookie. 335 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 2: But they were betting offshore in countries around the world, 336 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 2: and they were giving them their credit card and all 337 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 2: of that. And once I saw that happening, I said 338 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 2: to myself, we got to bring that back home here, 339 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 2: not just for the tax benefits that might that might accrue, 340 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 2: but to just to protect people. They were people given, 341 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 2: you know, in a twenty dollars bet, giving their credit 342 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 2: card number to somebody, you know, some book in Aruba 343 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 2: or somewhere like that. And if if you lost something, 344 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 2: who are you going to call? The Better Business Bureau? 345 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:29,239 Speaker 4: So I no recourse in those places. You're giving your 346 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 4: data to these places Insa, in Costa Rica and Aruba. Yeah, 347 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,239 Speaker 4: and you're right, have you guys put you can't call 348 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 4: the AG They can't do anything about. 349 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 2: Absolutely. Have your clients had an impact on some of 350 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 2: those offshore locations and and and basically at least diminished 351 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 2: the amount of activity that that that they see coming 352 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 2: from the US. 353 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 354 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 4: Absolutely, I mean folks are demonstrating as a result of 355 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 4: the growth we talked about at some of these big 356 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 4: betting moments. They're really deciding to bring their action, their 357 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 4: playing into these legal markets. And that's really important. When 358 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 4: twenty eighteen took place, When the Supreme Court decided in 359 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 4: twenty eighteen to overturn the federal ban on wagering outside 360 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 4: of the state of Nedata, seventy five percent about bets 361 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 4: in the country were placed illegally. Now we're down to 362 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 4: fifty percent. We've migrated a lot of those betters out 363 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 4: of these illegal markets. We've shipped away at the market 364 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 4: share the monopolies have. There are some big jurisdictions left 365 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 4: in this country. A thirdive American adults still live in 366 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 4: a jurisdiction where they can't where they cannot legally place 367 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 4: a wager in their home state. So we have more 368 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 4: work to do, but we're making a lot of progress 369 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 4: and we are driving out those illegal operators. 370 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 2: Joe Maloney, thanks very much. If folks want to get 371 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 2: any more information, is there a website? Oftentimes when people 372 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 2: come on, it's a good informational interview, but a lot 373 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 2: of people have a website. They want to direct some 374 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 2: of my listeners to if they have more questions. 375 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, if you want to check out our legal wager 376 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 4: forecast on the Super Bowl, go to Legal Sports Report 377 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 4: dot com. If you want some tips on betting responsibly, 378 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 4: go to our website, Sports Betting Alliance dot org. Thanks 379 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 4: so much. 380 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 2: What's the is it still four and a half points? 381 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 4: By the way, still four and a half points? Public 382 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 4: love Seattle. So for the folks at home, jump on 383 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 4: the paths, could stay, the public could go your way. 384 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, Generally conventional wisdom is neither conventional noe. Especially why 385 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 2: so I'm a Patriots guy. 386 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 4: Thanks Joe, appreciate it, Thank care, have. 387 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 2: A great night. Will we get back. We will be 388 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 2: talking with the etiquette expert with the twenty worst Valentine's 389 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 2: Day gifts. Rob has done Yeoman's work and corralled Valerie, 390 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 2: so Keolowski. So we'll be back with Valerie right after 391 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 2: the news at the bottom of the. 392 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: Hour, you're on the night side with Dan Ray on 393 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: w Boston's news radio. 394 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 2: I could never figure that out. The rodent sees his shadow, 395 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 2: which means the sun is out at seven o'clock in 396 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:58,479 Speaker 2: the morning in Ponsetonia, Pennsylvania, and that means we're going 397 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 2: to have more winter. I would a shadow. I would 398 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 2: say the sun is out and springs right around the corner. 399 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 2: I don't know. I think that's I'm not sure that's 400 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 2: on the level. But I'll tell you what is on 401 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 2: the level, my friend Valerie Sokolowski. She's an etiquette expert 402 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 2: and author and a master brand stratus. Valerie almost lost 403 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:18,719 Speaker 2: you there tonight. 404 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 6: Everything okay, Everything is okay. 405 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 5: The snow is melted and the and the ice is gone. 406 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 2: Well, you know, we had your schedule for eight fifteen. 407 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 2: So I'm saying to Rob, maybe she's out shoveling snow, 408 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 2: and he said where she lives. I said, yes, yes, yes, yes, 409 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,959 Speaker 2: So everything is fine. I just want to make sure. Okay, 410 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 2: So let's talk about the twenty worst Valentine Valentine's Day 411 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 2: gifts that you should never give. The first one is 412 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 2: kind of self explanatory. 413 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,959 Speaker 5: Yeah, Hey, what do you think is the worst? 414 00:23:56,200 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 2: Well, I'm looking at the list. Is this your list? 415 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:05,479 Speaker 5: No, it's actually some research lists. But I'll tell you something. 416 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 5: The most important thing for Valentine is something that says 417 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 5: to your partner, I see you. In other words, don't 418 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 5: run into the grocery store and get that already done. 419 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 5: Little chocolate thing in the hearts, things like that if 420 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 5: you don't have the time to do it right. That's 421 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 5: the name of my book, you know, Dan. 422 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 2: Yes, do it right. I knew we were going to 423 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 2: get Yeah. No. The list that I have here says 424 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 2: the top of the list, the word the most awful 425 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 2: gifts is one nothing. Two is a breakup letter. You know. Look, 426 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 2: it's a tough time I think for everybody at Valentine's Day, 427 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 2: because you you want to kind of hit it right. 428 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 2: You don't want to go overboard. You don't want to 429 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 2: roll up, you know, and say hey, I got a 430 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 2: new maserati for Happy Valentine's Day, particularly if you just 431 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 2: met the person. Okay, no, Yeah, you know, I think 432 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 2: sometimes if you really stuck, I'll ask you this. Look 433 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 2: you can get. There are many, you know, some a 434 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 2: cute little teddy bear, some, you know, particularly if you 435 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 2: like early on in a relationship, but also maybe pen 436 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 2: a little personal note expressing your feelings. And even if 437 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 2: even if it is gee, we had a great date 438 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 2: last week, first time. I hope it's going to lead 439 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 2: to more, you know. 440 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 5: You know what, Dan, it doesn't take a lot of 441 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 5: effort to think outside the box and if you know 442 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 5: enough about your partner, think about words that they have said, 443 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 5: like I want to, I want to, I want to. Well, 444 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 5: there's usually something that's after that, like I want a 445 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 5: spa treatment, I want to go too, I want to 446 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 5: have a fabulous Pusta dinner, I want to Well what 447 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 5: are those things that you've heard and that leads to 448 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 5: just listen, listen throughout the year. It's once a year. 449 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 5: You can certainly figure out something during the year. 450 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that one, sure, But you know, if it's 451 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 2: a long term relationship, there's Valentine's Day, and there's a birthday, 452 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 2: and there's maybe Christmas or Honikah or some other you know, 453 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 2: holiday whatever, But what do you do with somebody who 454 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 2: all of a sudden has just started to date someone, 455 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 2: be it man, male or female. But in most cases 456 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 2: the onus is on the male at Valentine's Day, Let's 457 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 2: be real. Yeah, you know, not that in this day 458 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 2: of equality, it canot be equal, but that's the reality. 459 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 2: And let's assume that you've just you met someone I 460 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 2: don't know Injanuary and you like that person, but you're 461 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 2: kind of you know, if you do too much, what 462 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 2: would you suggest as someone who really does understand etiquette 463 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 2: and things like that. Give an idea if you would, 464 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 2: to somebody you know who might be in there, I 465 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 2: don't know, mid to late twenties and beginning to date someone, 466 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 2: which and thinking that it could be a something that 467 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 2: might last a longer time than other date. Steff add him, 468 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to give give someone an opportunity who 469 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 2: might be listening to me and say, hey, I got 470 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 2: a great idea from Valerie. 471 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 5: Well, the first thing is we have forgotten the etiquette 472 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 5: of a handwritten note and in this case, something that 473 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 5: is love or lovely, and even't if it's someone you're 474 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 5: just starting to date. I don't know when I have 475 00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 5: heard of anyone in our current generations have taken the 476 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 5: time to sit down and just write something out from 477 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 5: their heart. And then, if you're so inclined, and I 478 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 5: hope people are, figure out a way to give it. 479 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 5: For example, and Texas boots are popular, well how about 480 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 5: a little chocolate boot you could find, or a boot 481 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 5: of some kind and attach a handwritten note to a 482 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 5: boot because that's Texas And you could go off all 483 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 5: day on those themes of the big State. I love 484 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 5: you so big just like the state of Texas. Just 485 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 5: put on a creativity hat and listen. Chat gbt's great. 486 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 5: I don't have any problem putting something into chat GBT. 487 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 5: But the important thing is to do something and make 488 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 5: it personal. 489 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're right. And obviously Balentine's Day is 490 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 2: going to be a weekend after the Super Bowls, so 491 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 2: maybe I could do a nice personal note and promise 492 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 2: some a couple of tickets, you know, next something to 493 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 2: look forward to next fall, to a Patriots game or 494 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 2: something like that. If they're a sports fan. I mean, 495 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 2: they come up with something that about them that you 496 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 2: think that they could look forward to as well. I mean, 497 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 2: rosa lovely chocolate is great, but generally roses are gone 498 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 2: after a few days, and chocolate could be gone quick, 499 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 2: real quickly. 500 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 5: Real quick. Well you just said you just said something 501 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 5: that I was going to mention Dan, thank you, which 502 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 5: is make some kind of a memory. Think of some 503 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 5: kind of an experience. If it's a nice dinner, Okay, 504 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 5: that's a great experience, isn't it. If it's for her 505 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 5: or him alone, what do they like that they would 506 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 5: not probably spend money on by themselves for their own selfishness? 507 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 5: Meaning for me, Hey to take me to a spa 508 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 5: any day. And it could be something as simple too. 509 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 5: And I don't know how many people think of this, 510 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 5: but I would love to have my husband say, Hey, 511 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 5: it's the weekend and I've got you booked at X 512 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 5: y Z lovely hotel. You're going to have your dinner 513 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 5: served in the room, grab your book, here's a new 514 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 5: pair of slippers, and enjoy the evening. I love you, honey. 515 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned that's the second time spa for me. 516 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 2: It would be like a couple of tickets to a 517 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 2: Patriots game, couple of tickets Red Sox game, something that 518 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 2: you can kind of look forward to and probably know 519 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 2: the person a little better a couple of three months 520 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 2: down the road, Valerie, give us week. Let's plug you 521 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 2: book at least here. Okay, what's what is the latest 522 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 2: book that you have that you that is now available 523 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 2: to the public. 524 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 5: Thank you for that, Dan, You're always so nice. Well, 525 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 5: my books, the two that are currently available are Doing 526 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 5: It Right, Do It Right and Monday Morning Leadership for Women. 527 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 5: But the other thing, Dan, is that I have now 528 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 5: for seven years a podcast called Doing It Right. 529 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 2: Yes, and you can that podcast. I was a guest 530 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 2: on that podcast a few years ago. 531 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 5: Yes, sir, you weren't. You were great. 532 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 2: Thank you for seeing that. Oh that's great. Val We're 533 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 2: always good to talk to you. I'm glad that we 534 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 2: found you. I was afraid we're going to miss you tonight. 535 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 2: We got you. We got you. That's all that matters. 536 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 2: And uh, this will be posted. You know you can 537 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 2: circulate this. We will. We post this on Nightside and Demand. 538 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 2: Rob our fine producer will post this sometime by two 539 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 2: or three am tomorrow morning. Uh, and you'll be able 540 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 2: to find it at Nightside on Demand dot com. You 541 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 2: can pull it down and put it up on your website. 542 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 5: Well, I'm going to do that for you as well. 543 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 5: And thank you for letting the producers that real news 544 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 5: no Nightside on demand dot com. You've got it, my friend. 545 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 2: You bet you. Thanks Valerie, appreciate it very much. Happy 546 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 2: Valentine's Style, Happy Valentine, Sir. Okay, Valeri so Glowski etiquet expert, 547 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 2: author and master brand strategist, coming back on Nightside. 548 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: It's Nightside with Boston's news Radio. 549 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about truck Day because 550 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 2: we joke about truck Day when the baseball season ends. 551 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 2: I remember joking about it last fall when the Red 552 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 2: Sox lost. Uh, there are two out of three series 553 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 2: to the Yankees, and and for all intents and purpose 554 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 2: that the season ends all too abruptly. And at that 555 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 2: point we start to sometime in mid October, we start 556 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 2: to think, well, when will the truck leave for Fort Myers, 557 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 2: And generally it leaves sometime in early February. This is 558 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 2: an early departure February second, and the reason is the 559 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 2: Red Sox open at home against the San Diego Padres. 560 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 2: Believe it's on March thirtieth. I could be wrong on that, 561 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 2: but it's actually Normally the baseball season starts in April. 562 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 2: Every once in a while, because of some vagaries in 563 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 2: the schedule, it will open up a little bit sooner, 564 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 2: and this spring will open up in April, which essentially 565 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 2: means that we are now less than two months away 566 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 2: from the opening of the regular season, and we are 567 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 2: probably well, we are less than a month away and 568 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 2: probably two weeks away before we start seeing pictures of 569 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 2: pitchers and catchers reporting, and then exhibition games will start 570 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 2: in late February. And for me, as somebody I love 571 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 2: all sports played hockey, played baseball, love football, love basketball, 572 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 2: love individual sports. I just think it's the best that 573 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 2: we can, you know, possibly do, is to involve our 574 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 2: kids in sports. And so I used to do live 575 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,439 Speaker 2: shots at Fenway Park for Channel four back in the day, 576 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,720 Speaker 2: and we would do we would do a live shot 577 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 2: always on truck Day. We would do the live shot 578 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 2: from inside the Red Sox Clubhouse. And it's such a 579 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 2: great place to be because one you're deep in the 580 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 2: battles of the ballpark, there's all sorts of activity of 581 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,479 Speaker 2: stuff being still packed and being shipped out the door 582 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 2: onto the truck, which is parked on one of the 583 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 2: side streets by the players parking lot. And it was 584 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 2: always fun and there were always a few fans who 585 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,879 Speaker 2: would be there when the truck would leave to part 586 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 2: from Fenway Park, and you knew, you knew that that 587 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 2: was the first sign that winter truly was over, or 588 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 2: at least was starting to leave, because the truck, to me, 589 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:07,800 Speaker 2: was the metaphor that spring was about to arrive. Of course, 590 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 2: everybody knows that spring doesn't arrive until March twenty first, 591 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 2: so they call it spring training, but it should be 592 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 2: called winter training. And I must tell you, I have 593 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 2: some of my best memories as a TV reporter from 594 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 2: being inside the Red Sox clubhouse watching the uniforms being 595 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,399 Speaker 2: packed they would put on. You know, they were like hell, 596 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 2: thousands of pieces of bubblegum and seeds for the players 597 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 2: to spit out in baseballs and bats, and you just knew. 598 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 2: Even however cold the day might have been, however damp 599 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 2: it might have been outside, you just knew. And that 600 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:51,720 Speaker 2: is what happened today. The baseball season has unofficially begun today. Generally, 601 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 2: the Red Sox truck ends up somewhere in Maryland or 602 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 2: Virginia tonight, and I think it gets into Fort Myers, 603 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 2: if not late tomorrow or probably early Wednesday, and it 604 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 2: just is proof to us that last year is over 605 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 2: and the Red Sox and the rest of Major League 606 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 2: Baseball will begin shortly. So that is my salute to 607 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 2: truck day. If you've never been down there in the clubhouse, 608 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 2: which very few people have that opportunity, it's a magical experience, 609 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 2: particularly if you're kid grew if you're a kid who 610 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 2: grew up in Boston and learned to love baseball at 611 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 2: a very early age. When we get back right after 612 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 2: the nine o'clock news, we are going to go to 613 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 2: a story that shook this region twenty five, twenty six 614 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 2: years ago, the murder of a young girl named Molly Bish. 615 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 2: We're going to be talking with her sister, Heather Bish, 616 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 2: and a former colleague of my former television reporter, Kathy Kurrn, 617 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,959 Speaker 2: who has followed the story. We know what the ending 618 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 2: of the story was with the murder of Molly Bish, 619 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 2: but no one has been called to justice for that story. 620 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,399 Speaker 2: And will we talk with Heather about a week ago. 621 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 2: We'll talk with her and with Kathy Kurran much more 622 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 2: length and much more depth tonight. And also if you'd 623 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 2: like to call and ask a question or offer a 624 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 2: little solace, that's okay too. Coming back on Night's side 625 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 2: right after this