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The Reds had the 22 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 4: bats going again today they win nineteen to two, second 23 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 4: straight game where the Reds have scored double digit runs. 24 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 4: They scored seventeen on Monday against the Cubs. The bats 25 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 4: were going again today. But the news of the day 26 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 4: is that Hunter Green has been shut down, at least 27 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 4: for the time being. He's going to get an MRI 28 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 4: on his throwing elbow that'll be in Cincinnati coming up 29 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 4: on Friday, and then he's going to get a second 30 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 4: opinion on my day. We should know more by Tuesday, 31 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 4: But Cowboy, this is a guy that in all likelihood 32 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 4: was going to be the Reds opening day starter if 33 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 4: everything went well. Now the Reds shut him down. First 34 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 4: things first, Is there a chance that this thing is 35 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 4: nothing major and that he'll be back and throwing again 36 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 4: perhaps next week. 37 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 38 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 5: I think anytime you're coming into spring training you can 39 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:28,679 Speaker 5: always have some crazy soreness, and for some guys it's 40 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 5: not a big deal. You just know that you're going 41 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 5: to be sore, and you just continue to stretch it 42 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 5: out a little bit, You try to get as much 43 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 5: treatment as you can, maybe miss a couple of times 44 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,399 Speaker 5: of your throwing, and then you just go right back 45 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 5: at it, But when you've had Tommy John surgery, you're 46 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 5: better to err on the side of caution because you 47 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 5: don't want to push an elbow that has been reconstructed 48 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 5: and then put yourself in a position that might compromise 49 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 5: you for two or three months in the middle of 50 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 5: the season. 51 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 4: Good to be cautious. Hopefully it's nothing major for Hunter Green, 52 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 4: but it is a situation that we will keep an 53 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 4: eye on. It's really the only development we've had in 54 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 4: and otherwise fortunately boring spring training and boring in all 55 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 4: the right ways, meaning there haven't been many injuries. Everybody 56 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 4: has been healthy to this point. There hasn't been anything 57 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 4: that's even been alarming to this point until now, so 58 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 4: we'll keep an eye on that. We'll of course pass 59 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 4: it along during some of the broadcasts once we know 60 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 4: more information. But you can't help but wonder what's the 61 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 4: ripple effect of this and how does it impact the rotation. 62 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 4: We knew there was already a battle for the fifth 63 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 4: spot in the rotation, and at least for my eyes, Cowboy, 64 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 4: we've seen three pitchers that are very qualified to take 65 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 4: over that fifth spot in the rotation, and Chase Burns 66 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 4: Reet Louder through brilliantly today. And then another guy that 67 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 4: has looked good in spring training is Brandon Williamson. It 68 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 4: could really go to any one of those three. You 69 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 4: have to assume at this point, at the very least, 70 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 4: there's going to be an extra turn in the rotation 71 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 4: to start the year. 72 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 3: How do you see that playing out now? 73 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 5: Well, I think ultimately if you if you had one 74 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 5: of your starters go down, you had an extra guy 75 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 5: that was very capable in Louder or Burns to be 76 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 5: able to take that spot, whether that's the fifth spot, 77 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 5: second spot, whatever it may be. I think right now 78 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,119 Speaker 5: what you're looking at is you've got some depth there. 79 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: Uh. 80 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 5: It's okay to to have an embarrassment of riches and 81 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 5: have five or six guys that you know can give 82 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 5: you a chance to win every single day at the 83 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 5: big league level. 84 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 3: Very few teams have that. I think from from the Reds. 85 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 5: Perspective, you know, you you don't panic if you're if 86 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 5: you're in a position any other ball club and you 87 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 5: lose one of your top starters, a guy that you're expected, 88 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 5: you're expecting to start every fifth day. Uh, the first 89 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 5: thing you do is you start looking on the the. 90 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 3: Looking out there and figuring out, can you make a trade? 91 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 3: Can you do this? Can and And the Reds don't 92 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 3: have to fool with that. 93 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 5: I mean they've got I think they've got their innings 94 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 5: covered where the rubber will meet the road and where 95 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 5: you're gonna have some issues. From a Reds perspective, You're 96 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 5: only gonna have a certain amount of innings from Chase Burns, right, 97 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:17,679 Speaker 5: and you're only gonna have a certain amount of innings 98 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 5: from Red Louder. I think what you're hoping for if 99 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 5: you're Nick Crawling and the Cincinnati Reds is that you're 100 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 5: able to get through spring training with all of your 101 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 5: other guys healthy, and really you worry about those innings 102 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 5: when you get to the All Star break and you 103 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 5: just try to keep yourself moving along in the right direction. 104 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 5: But the Reds are very fortunate that they've got five 105 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 5: or six guys that can start at the big league 106 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 5: level and give you a real opportunity to win every day. 107 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 5: I mean, we've we saw what Chase Burns could do 108 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 5: last year, and what he can do is retire guys 109 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 5: in succession via the strikeout. I mean there are days 110 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 5: where he is absolutely overpowering, dominant. You don't see that 111 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 5: every day from a guy that's just getting into the 112 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 5: big leagues. What we saw two years ago from Rhet 113 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 5: Louder is he can do the same thing. They're they're 114 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 5: totally different pitchers, but yet they're they're still able to 115 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 5: provide the same results. 116 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 3: And I think that's what you're after. 117 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 4: Rhet Louder through for a third time today and it 118 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 4: was more the same what we've seen through his first 119 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 4: couple outings. 120 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think from from Louder's perspective, mechanics are spot on. 121 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 5: And the reason I say mechanics first because he has 122 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 5: the ability to create tremendous movement to his glove side, 123 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 5: bringing the ball back to that corner that means it's 124 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 5: down and into a lefty, down and a way to 125 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 5: a righty and that's where he's getting a lot of 126 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 5: his strikeouts. What I think you have to watch, simply 127 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 5: because he didn't really pitch last year, is where is 128 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 5: he as we get towards the middle and the end 129 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 5: of spring training. Is there is there going to be 130 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 5: a fatigue factor. I think you have to keep an 131 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 5: eye on him. But what it gives you now is 132 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 5: the freedom to to let Chase Burns go, let it, 133 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 5: let it ride, and and that's that's got to be 134 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 5: a good feeling from the red standpoint, even though you 135 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 5: have some worry that that hunter has to go see 136 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 5: doctors as far as his elbow is concerned. 137 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 3: That's the story from the pitching standpoint. 138 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 4: Now, let's talk about the offense, because this team has 139 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 4: scored over well it's they've scored now over thirty runs 140 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 4: in the last two games. And there are some guys 141 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 4: in this lineup that have looked really good. TJ Friedel 142 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 4: with some really good swings today. Matt McClain has been 143 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 4: a force all spring long, just as Ellie has been. 144 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 4: And I know it's spring training. We always have to 145 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 4: remind ourselves of that. But like you talked about during 146 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 4: the game today, Matt McClain just looks different this spring. 147 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that he's he's made some adjustments. I 148 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 5: saw side by side. I wish I could remember where 149 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 5: I saw this so I could give credit to the 150 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 5: to the folks that put that out. But a side 151 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 5: by side comparison of Matty's swing and where his upper 152 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 5: body is as he's making contact from last year versus 153 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 5: this few games that we have seen here in spring training, 154 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 5: and it just seems like he's getting better plate coverage. 155 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 5: You can talk about a quarter inch on the bat 156 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 5: that's a little bit longer. I don't think that has 157 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 5: a thing to do with it. I just think that 158 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 5: he's more comfortable, he's healthy, he looks way stronger, and 159 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 5: you know he's got another year under his belt. I 160 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 5: mean repetition as far as a hitter and getting into 161 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 5: that good timing. That's tough when you're coming back from 162 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 5: a shoulder surgery, especially your front shoulder, which would be 163 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 5: the case for Matt McClain, which was his left shoulder. 164 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 4: Matt or not Matt McClean, excuse me. Salth Stewart is 165 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 4: a guy that we've always heard can hit. We got 166 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 4: a taste of south Stewart last year's he got to 167 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 4: the big leagues for the first time, and I think 168 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 4: everybody liked what they saw out of him. But you 169 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 4: don't know how he's gonna look here in year two. 170 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 4: This is a guy that has come in ready to go, 171 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 4: and it's not like he's facing guys at the back 172 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 4: end of teams bullpens that are minor league pitchers. 173 00:08:58,760 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 3: For the most part. 174 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 4: He's been racing frontlining pitchers because he's been starting most 175 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 4: of the games. He's looked good and had three more 176 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 4: hits again today. 177 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, not only just looks good, I think his mental 178 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 5: approach is just outstanding. He looks like a guy that's 179 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 5: been around the game a little longer than what he 180 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 5: has been. And obviously for him, he's still in a 181 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 5: position as a young hitter. He's got to learn a 182 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 5: lot of the pitchers around the league. But I think 183 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 5: that he's only going to get better. My concern right 184 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 5: now is where you're gonna put him right Are you 185 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 5: going to play him at first base? He has not 186 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 5: been a first baseman. There's a lot of defensive work 187 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 5: that goes there, and I know that he and Mike 188 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 5: Napoli have worked on this just probably more than anybody. 189 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 5: But you can put all the work in and you 190 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 5: still have to have that instinctive value at first base, 191 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 5: knowing when to go to the bag, when to go 192 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 5: after the ball, and what to do in a cutoff 193 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 5: relay situation. It falls into game situation as much as anything. 194 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 5: But as far as hitting man, I really love what 195 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 5: I see right now. 196 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 4: I talked to Tito about and we're running short on 197 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 4: time here, but real quick talk to Tito about Key 198 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 4: Brian Hayes. What have been your impressions of him at 199 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 4: the plate. 200 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 5: I think his swing looks good. I think it's I 201 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 5: think for Key Brian, it's much more about management of 202 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 5: the back issue than it is about technique or any 203 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 5: of those things. I think the Reds are perfectly comfortable 204 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 5: with him hitting doubles and just figuring out out a 205 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 5: way to get on base rather than just trying to 206 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 5: hit the ball out of the ballpark. And right now 207 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 5: he's making some great content. He's making solid contact. He 208 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 5: had another hit today and a deep sack fly in 209 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 5: fact as well, so he's looked good at the play. 210 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 5: Join the Reds for Kids Opening Day on Saturday, March 211 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 5: twenty eighth. Arrive early to enjoy the Reds player Parade 212 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 5: and other festivities for kids and families. 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Cowboy one guy that we talked 231 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 4: about during the game today that's looked awfully good. 232 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 3: He had a hit and a hit by pitch today. Done. 233 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 4: We know that he worked on his approach down in 234 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 4: Louisville last year after he got sent down, he was frustrated, 235 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 4: but it seems like that is translating to this point 236 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 4: in spring training does he look like a different player 237 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 4: to you? 238 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, we were talking about this during the game. He 239 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 3: looks like a different hitter. Now. 240 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 5: We've always known he's had great speed in the outfield, 241 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 5: and when I say great speed, I'm talking about as 242 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 5: good as anybody else that runs at the major league 243 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 5: level covers ground. He's a smart player as far as 244 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 5: what he does in the outfield. He knows how to throw. 245 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 5: He's got a good arm. We've seen him throw guys 246 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 5: out at the plate, but where he struggled at the 247 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 5: big league level was being able to fight off tough pitchers. 248 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 5: And I think he's he's figured out a way to 249 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 5: get his hands inside the ball and still be able 250 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 5: to drive a pitch that might be a be creating 251 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 5: some velocity on the inside part of the plate. And 252 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 5: with that, you're talking about a guy that was your 253 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 5: minor league hitter of the Year a couple of years ago. 254 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 5: So you know he has the ability to do it. 255 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 5: It's about making adjustments, and I know when he went 256 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 5: down he struggled mightily trying to make this adjustment. But 257 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 5: he has come back with extreme success. He looks like 258 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 5: a big league player, and for that to happen there's 259 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 5: a lot of work that goes into it, but it's 260 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 5: awfully fun to watch that success. 261 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 3: You know, it's one thing to have success in. 262 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 4: Practice or even going back to the minor leagues and 263 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 4: having success. But once you get thrown into the big 264 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 4: league environment, do your bad habits come back? We've seen 265 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 4: it happen all the time. 266 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 5: Well, I think what happens is you get to the 267 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 5: big leagues on what talent that you have and what 268 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 5: you've done for your whole life, and those are the 269 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 5: only adjustments that you can make because you don't know 270 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 5: what you don't know. 271 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 3: And he got to the. 272 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 5: Big leagues and realize, hey, I've got to be able 273 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 5: to hit this ball that's up letter high because they're 274 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 5: calling it strikes and they're eating my hands up. And 275 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 5: you have to hand credit to guys that make those 276 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 5: adjustments you make him as a pitcher, you think, all right, well, 277 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 5: my breaking ball has gotten me this far, but they 278 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 5: either don't swing at it at the big league level 279 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 5: because it's too big, or when I throw it over 280 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 5: the plate, they hit it out of the ballpark because 281 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 5: they see. 282 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 3: It coming out of my hand, So you have to 283 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 3: shorten it up. 284 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 5: Well, what Blake Dunn has accomplished is he's been able 285 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 5: to shorten up his swing and still create power. I mean, 286 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 5: he's hitting the ball hard, and I think in doing that, 287 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 5: it's really raised his confidence level. And you can see it. 288 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 5: I mean, he exudes confidence when he steps into the box. 289 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 5: Doesn't look like he's worried about getting a hit. He 290 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 5: looks like he's ready to get a hit. 291 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 4: Blake Dunn and I had a chance to catch up 292 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 4: earlier this spring over in camp. Let's hear from Blake 293 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 4: and talk about and hear him talk about some of 294 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 4: those adjustments right now, Blake, he had a really strong 295 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 4: finish this season last year. What was it that kind 296 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 4: of clicked for you down in Louisville. 297 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, there was some mechanical adjustments that I made. Felt 298 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 6: like I needed to kind of get back to just 299 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 6: staying low line drives. But like a lot of my 300 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 6: misses in the big leagues and even in Triple A 301 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 6: when I was struggling, a lot of my misses are 302 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 6: are underneath kind of losing the barrel a little bit. 303 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 6: So I felt like being taller kind of just having 304 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 6: a better approach to the ball. I guess trying to 305 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 6: keep strong with my top hands, stay on top of 306 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 6: the baseball low line drives. That helped a ton, And 307 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 6: then was really kind of attacking the mental side of 308 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 6: the game, really focusing on what it takes to be 309 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 6: present in the box each pitch and then allowing yourself 310 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 6: to take what happened to that bat, good or bad, 311 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 6: learn from it, Go to the outfield, make a play 312 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 6: in the outfield, be pitch to pitch out there, come 313 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 6: back into the dugout, get ready for the next A B. 314 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 6: Stuff that I feel like as a baseball player, sometimes 315 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 6: when you're when you're playing really well throughout your whole career, 316 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 6: like you don't really think about those types of things 317 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 6: because you're just kind of always in the positive. I 318 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 6: guess you're just always rolling into the next game, into 319 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 6: the next pitch, into the next that bat. But when 320 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 6: things start to struggle a little bit, like it's easy 321 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 6: to forget that you're still that dominant player. And so 322 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 6: it was just a lot of mental stuff like that 323 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 6: along with the physical things that allowed me to kind 324 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 6: of just take off that second half of the season 325 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 6: and play really well. 326 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 4: Uh, did you have to take some like almost like 327 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 4: a mental break because you get to the big leagues. 328 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 4: There's obviously the excitement of being there and and and 329 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 4: for you being back, and then there's the disappointment when 330 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 4: it doesn't go how you hope? How'd you kind of 331 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 4: overcome that and get back to the mindset of all right, 332 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 4: I can still do this. Now, I've got to figure 333 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 4: out how to get to where I want to be. 334 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 3: Does that make sense? Yeah? I think. 335 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 6: I mean as a competitor me and like myself, and 336 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 6: obviously I think anybody that's been in the big leagues, like, 337 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 6: if you you go up there, you're obviously you're really excited. 338 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 6: You worked your ass off to get up to that 339 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 6: point and you get you Obviously, some people they hit 340 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 6: the road running and they just take off and their 341 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 6: careers take off. And then there's other people that do 342 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,199 Speaker 6: that kind of struggle a little bit. And there's been 343 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 6: plenty of players that have gone up to the big 344 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 6: leagues and had some MutS and downs, gone up and 345 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 6: down to TRIPA A big leagues for the first few 346 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 6: years of their careers, and then they've settled into really 347 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 6: good big league careers. And I just try to keep 348 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 6: in that positive mindset of knowing that I belong up there, 349 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 6: knowing that I can be a player in the big 350 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 6: leagues that can help this club win, especially win late 351 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 6: in the season and into the postseason and stuff like that. 352 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 6: And so that's what when I got sent down, that's 353 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 6: what I just kept trying to remind myself. Obviously working 354 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 6: on those things I just mentioned with the physical and 355 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 6: the mental side of the game, but then also just 356 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 6: continue to tell myself that like I am a big leaguer, 357 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 6: I'm going to be up there. I'm going to play 358 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 6: up there for a long time. It's just the time's 359 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 6: going to come. 360 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 4: How motivated are you now, especially after having success making 361 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 4: a few tweaks to your game to get back to 362 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 4: the big leagues and prove that it can work at 363 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 4: the major league level. 364 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm really excited. I think along with the way 365 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 6: that last year went, I felt great this offseason, and 366 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 6: so I just took what I learned and took what 367 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 6: I adjusted from the end of last season into the offseason, 368 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 6: and I'm feeling great this first week of camp when 369 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 6: a lot of us were here early. So excited to 370 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 6: get going today for first full practice and I'm excited 371 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,719 Speaker 6: for games to start, just to go out there and compete, 372 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 6: have fun and try to win a job. 373 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 3: Appreciate it. Blake, good luck, Thank you. 374 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 4: That's my conversation earlier this spring with Blake Dunn done. 375 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 4: Now with four hits on the spring. He had another 376 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 4: one today singling. He was also hit by a pitch 377 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 4: and then scored a run. 378 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 3: Done. 379 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 4: Is look good so far in camp. We'll see if 380 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 4: it continues as spring training moves along. The Reds have 381 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 4: the Dodgers coming up tomorrow. The Reds beat Cuba today 382 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 4: nineteen to two over Cuba here at Goodyear Ballpark. We've 383 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 4: got more coming up next on the Budweiser Reds Hot 384 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 4: Stove League presented by UDF the Cowboy and I will 385 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 4: talk more about this team when we come back. Also 386 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 4: coming up a little bit later in the show, we're 387 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 4: going to hear from Joe Vado from the Jim Day 388 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 4: Podcast talking about Red shortstop Elie dla Cruz. This is 389 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 4: a guy that I think is poised to have a 390 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 4: huge season this year, to go with what we've seen 391 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 4: already in camp. From Matt McClain. More on the Budweiser 392 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 4: Reds Hot Stove League next across the Reds Radio Network 393 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 4: Welcome back into the Budweiser Red's Hot Stove League presented 394 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 4: by UDF. So far, we've talked about the Reds offense today, 395 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 4: we have talked about the starting rotation. We really haven't 396 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 4: talked much about the bullpen, and this is one of 397 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 4: the areas. I was kind of excited, Cowboy. I don't 398 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 4: know if you feel the same way, but I really 399 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 4: came into this spring excited to see the progress that 400 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 4: Zach Maxwell and Luis May had made. I have not 401 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 4: been impressed, to put it as mildly as possible, from 402 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 4: those two guys. I've still got hope for him because 403 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 4: they both have big arms, but I don't know that 404 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 4: you can expect either one of those two guys to 405 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 4: be a part of those bo right now. 406 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 5: Well, I think when you look at the Reds bullpen, 407 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 5: there are a couple of spots that that were up 408 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 5: for competition, and I think that part of that competition 409 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 5: you would you would figure in the two names you mentioned, 410 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 5: and then you've got to throw Connor Phillips into that mix. 411 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 5: In my mind, now I've not heard anybody say this, 412 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 5: but in my mind, you're also just from what we've 413 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 5: seen thus far, tj Antone has been healthy, he's throwing 414 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 5: the ball good. He's got to blow you out of 415 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 5: the water in order to take him. And then a 416 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 5: non roster also another non roster invite, Junior Marte, who 417 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 5: has been in the big leagues before, not really had 418 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 5: a whole lot of success, but he's got a it's 419 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 5: got an upper nineties fastball, and he's got a good 420 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 5: slider that he throws for strike. So those five guys 421 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 5: right there competing for two spots, and that doesn't even 422 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 5: take into consideration anybody else. But I just look at 423 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 5: those names, James, and I think to myself, Okay, yeah, 424 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 5: your three choices that you thought about coming into camp 425 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 5: were Maxwell, May and Phillips, and those are the guys 426 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 5: that you would like to make the club. But they've 427 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 5: got to show you that they can handle the pressure 428 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 5: and that they can throw strikes and they're not out 429 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 5: there walking the house or giving up six or seven 430 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 5: hits in an inning. You have to be able to 431 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 5: have some sembilance of consistency. You can only do that 432 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 5: if you've got confident right, and that bullpen is a 433 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 5: place that it shows up quick. 434 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 3: If you don't have a whole lot of confident real quick. 435 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 3: Do you think Sam mal has entered the conversation. Yeah, 436 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 3: I think that Sam is in that. 437 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 5: I think when you signed the two left handers during 438 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 5: the off season, it made it more difficult to carry 439 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 5: a third left hander and you got to consider Williamson 440 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 5: as well. 441 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 4: Right well, we'll see what the Reds end up doing 442 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 4: with the bullpen, But right now I would say that 443 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 4: competition for the last two bullpen spots is it's wide 444 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 4: open at this point, and we'll see how it goes 445 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 4: the rest of the spring. But we've still got a 446 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 4: little ways to go in camp. We've got more coming up. 447 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 4: In fact, Joey Vodo had some comments on the Jim 448 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 4: Day podcast about Ellie de la Cruz. That's next, It's 449 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 4: the Budweiser Red's Hot Stove League presented by UDF on 450 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 4: the Reds Radio Network. Welcome back into the Budweiser Reds 451 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 4: Hot Stove League presented by UDF. We all know that 452 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 4: former Red Joey Vodo is starting to get into broadcasting. 453 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 4: You had a chance to talk about that, among a 454 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 4: myriad of other topics on the Gym Day podcast that 455 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 4: you can listen to now in its entirety. But one 456 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 4: portion of this podcast in particular really stood out about 457 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 4: this current Reds team, and that was Joey's thoughts on 458 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,199 Speaker 4: Ellie de la Cruz. Here is Joey talking about Ellie 459 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 4: on the Gym Day podcast. 460 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 7: I had a teammate one time tell me, I don't 461 00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 7: you can do it for a couple of years, but 462 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 7: you guys me three years in a row. And I 463 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 7: think a lot of the older guys would agree with that. 464 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 7: But I think this is, you know, you don't want 465 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 7: to put too much pressure on one year. But I 466 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 7: think this is an important year for him to be 467 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 7: able to establish who he is as a player. To himself. 468 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 7: I think that he's a highly confident player, and he 469 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 7: has every reason to be highly confident, but I think 470 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 7: this might be one of those years where he gets 471 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 7: to find out more about himself. Yeah, like, oh okay, 472 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 7: I'm a completely different I have my ceiling so much 473 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 7: higher than I thought it could be. And those are 474 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 7: the most exciting years when you're starting to enter your 475 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 7: physical prime, your experience that you've accumulated enough experience that 476 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 7: the game's a bit slower to you. You're also more 477 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 7: familiar with the trappings of the game and that combination 478 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 7: plus feeling more confident in your body, more confident with 479 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 7: your swing, more confident on the defensive side of things. 480 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 7: I think I think is I think years three, four 481 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 7: five are usually especially a younger player, I think where 482 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 7: things things really start to come together. So to me, 483 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 7: I'm quite intrigued by what sort of season he has, 484 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 7: and I think there's a chance that he could he 485 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 7: could put together the special season that I think every 486 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 7: player wants to, wants to, wants to. 487 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 3: Have earlier in their career. 488 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 7: You are, and I think it's it's crucial for the team. 489 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 3: You know. 490 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 7: I don't mean to put super high expectations on him, 491 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 7: but I think it's crucial for a guy like Elie 492 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 7: to play well to to really, you know, change the 493 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 7: trajectory of the twenty twenty six Reds for sure. I 494 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 7: mean it's a team where it's a team where there's 495 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 7: a few question marks, and if those question marks turn 496 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 7: into exclamation points, that this is a team that can 497 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 7: can can have a really strong year in the central 498 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 7: and and do bigger, bigger things, you know. Facing the 499 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 7: Dodgers last year I think was quite helpful. Also in 500 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 7: the playoffs. As short as that series was, it lets 501 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 7: you know what sort of level you have to get 502 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 7: to to be able to to be able to match 503 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 7: the best teams in the league. And you know, there's 504 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 7: something there's something about doing doing that facing a tough team, 505 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 7: but also when they're backs against the wall. Because the 506 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 7: Dodgers knew that it was a must win series in 507 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 7: such in a short series, they knew it could get 508 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 7: out a hand quickly, so you're going to see them 509 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 7: at the very very best. And that experience just in 510 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 7: and of itself, it's like facing an ace, or or 511 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 7: getting a tough bat against the closer in the in 512 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 7: the ninth inning, or or you know, facing facing a 513 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 7: batter when he's his at his at his most hot. 514 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 7: It pushes you to it pushes you to a new place. 515 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 7: And I think that I think that there's a chance 516 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 7: that Ellie specifically is going to take a major step forward. 517 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 7: And I think that, you know, if he does, the 518 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 7: team does. 519 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 3: Also. 520 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 2: You're a guy that loved to get in the lab, 521 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 2: swing mechanics, just every little piece of it. His strong 522 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 2: side is his left hand side. It's a big and tall, 523 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 2: it's a long swings, it's to me, it's much harder 524 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 2: as a taller guy. I would think, is there anything 525 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,199 Speaker 2: that you would tell him that? And I know you 526 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 2: don't want to mess around, You're not a code. I 527 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 2: know you don't want to mess around, but is there 528 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 2: anything that could help him just hone in that swing? 529 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 3: Well? 530 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 7: I had heard rubblings that he was playing through something 531 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 7: last year. 532 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 2: Big time. No, he had more than one leg injury, 533 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 2: particularly a quad injury that really hampered him. 534 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 3: So and that was. 535 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 2: Beyond like we're to make it excuses. 536 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 3: No, it was legit. 537 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 2: After games he was limping pretty bad, and unfortunately they 538 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,479 Speaker 2: put him out there for one hundred and sixty two. 539 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 2: Probably should have given him some time off, but kudos 540 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 2: to him for fighting through it. Never complained about it, 541 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 2: but it did affect him for sure. 542 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 7: You know, I want to give you, I want to 543 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 7: give a different perspective on playing through things. 544 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 3: Okay, so, first and foremost, he's going. 545 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 7: To play a long time, and there are occasions where 546 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 7: you get hurt and you have to stop because you're 547 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 7: either going to make it worse or you're not helping 548 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 7: the team. But then there's going to be occasions where 549 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 7: you can play through it. And it's not fun and 550 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 7: it's not comfortable, and you're limping or you're banged up 551 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 7: after the game, but you know, deep deep down inside 552 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 7: you can play through this and still be effective and 553 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 7: help your team. And there's sometimes where you opt out 554 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 7: and you take twenty or forty or seventy games off 555 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 7: and you get done and the thing's not better. The 556 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 7: thing's not better. 557 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 3: It's just a little bit better. 558 00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 7: And you had your time off and you just were 559 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 7: able to swallow, you know, take a deep breath and realize, oh, shoot, 560 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 7: I'm going to have to grind through this. 561 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 3: And then. 562 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 7: You're gonna when you're when you're gonna play a long time, 563 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 7: you're going to experience a variety of these and sometimes 564 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 7: just about getting through it, sometimes just about you know what, 565 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 7: for the majority of my career, I'm going to feel 566 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 7: sixty percent, eighty percent whatever it is, and it just 567 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 7: is what it is. 568 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 3: And you've got a choice. 569 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 7: You can either play and be perfect every day, or 570 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 7: you can play and deal with the realities of being 571 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 7: a professional athlete, which, you know, if you were to 572 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 7: ask ye, the players in the WNBA or the you know, 573 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 7: the the lineman in the NFL they'll tell you. I 574 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 7: feel awful on a consistent basis, but I got to 575 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 7: get out there, and so I actually have a great 576 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 7: deal of admiration for what he did last year. He 577 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 7: played one hundred and sixty two games. And he played 578 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 7: one hundred and sixty two games. Like, you can't take 579 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 7: that away. You know, you can talk about an injury. Yeah, 580 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 7: of course, an athletic position. He still stole bases, he's 581 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 7: still running first to home. He's still a game changer 582 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 7: with his speed. He performed, he performed well offensively. I mean, 583 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 7: I see one hundred and nine WRC plus for a 584 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 7: shortstop who's twenty three, twenty four years old. So from 585 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 7: my perspective, I actually have a great deal of admiration 586 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 7: for what he did because he could have he could 587 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 7: have punted on half the season and got it, got 588 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 7: it right, and he may have looked back and been like, Okay, 589 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 7: I can only get through seasons when I'm one hundred 590 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 7: percent or else. And I hope I'm not hurt this 591 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 7: year because it's going to be a half season. He 592 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 7: played one hundred and sixty two games. That is an 593 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 7: incredible accomplishment. Now I may have there may be total 594 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 7: disagreement from the medical staff, or from front office, or 595 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 7: from but I'm just going to give you the perspective 596 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 7: of what it feels like to play one hundred and 597 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 7: sixty two games. It's hard and sometimes sometimes you don't 598 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 7: get you don't tell people things, and you shouldn't tell 599 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 7: people things because it's your it's your responsibility to be 600 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 7: out there. That's what that's what we're getting paid to do. 601 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 7: So I actually think that twenty twenty five was a 602 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 7: fantastic experience for him because he's he can he can 603 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 7: measure the rest of his career those times where he's 604 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 7: a little banged up and he knows that he can 605 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 7: play through it or he needs to shut it down 606 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 7: because it could potentially get worse. I actually think that 607 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 7: it's a fantastic thing that he did it. That's just 608 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 7: my take I have. I I love the players that 609 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 7: play and don't complain and get the job done. Because 610 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 7: the average person that comes to the ball ball game 611 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 7: that wants to see a w on their side, they 612 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 7: don't care, as they shouldn't. They worked hard all day 613 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 7: and they want they want to come out and support 614 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 7: their team and see who they want to see play 615 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 7: so kudos to him as far as offensively. You know, 616 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 7: he's a longer guy. That's never going to change. He's got, 617 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 7: you know, a length through his bat path that's never 618 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 7: going to change. There can be adjustments. But do we 619 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 7: short Do we all of a sudden change our DNA 620 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 7: is a hitter? Do we run the risk of not 621 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 7: being who we are as a hitter if all of 622 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 7: a sudden we tinker to the point where we're trying 623 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 7: to short, short and short and shorten, we lose the 624 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 7: length that produced that. You know that those long line 625 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 7: drives those balls off the gap, balls. 626 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 3: Off the wall. 627 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 7: Excuse me, And so for me, I think he's at 628 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 7: his best personally, and and he of course we always tinker. 629 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 7: This is the nature of being having a bat in 630 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 7: our hands and competing and being in the cage and 631 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 7: having coaches and having our own sort of in the 632 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 7: mirror moments. 633 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 3: But like. 634 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 7: I think, think it's just one of those things. His 635 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 7: universes are going to align where everything's gonna click click click, 636 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 7: click click, and he'll be so in sync with the fastball, 637 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 7: he'll be so in sync with any sort of spin. 638 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 7: He'll be in sync with his body. He'll be healthy 639 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 7: and one of these seasons he'll and it could be 640 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 7: this year where he'll feel perfectly in rhythm with the game. 641 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 7: You know, you watch like old Darryl Strawberry swings, or 642 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 7: you watch like old Junior swings, or you watch you know, 643 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 7: you know, I'm trying to think of Frank Thomas. What 644 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 7: a perfect example of a fellow with like length but 645 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 7: just was so lick click together. He was so like 646 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 7: his entire move was cohesive and it syncd up with 647 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 7: with with the speed. 648 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 3: Of the game. 649 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 7: There's absolutely no reason, whatsoever why that can't happen for 650 00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 7: Elie de la Cruz offensively. 651 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 4: That is Joey Vato talking with Jim Day on the 652 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 4: jym Day Podcast. Of course, you can hear that entire 653 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 4: conversation and plenty more on the Gym Day podcast, which 654 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 4: is available wherever you find your podcast. Always interesting stuff. 655 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 4: It's interesting to hear how much Joey's still paying attention 656 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 4: not just to the Reds, but baseball as a whole. 657 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 4: Of course, that's something he's going to have to do 658 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 4: a lot of in his new role with NBC Sports now, 659 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 4: joining as one of their analysts on their broadcast team 660 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 4: as they carry baseball this year. Don't miss a moment 661 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 4: of the Reds this season with Reds dot Tv, stream 662 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 4: the entire season within the Reds territory for just ninety 663 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 4: nine to ninety nine. Watch games at home or on 664 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 4: the go, and stay connected all year long. Subject to 665 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 4: national exclusivities. Visit Reds dot tv for details and start 666 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 4: streaming today. The Reds today beat the Cuban national team 667 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 4: in a World Baseball Classic exhibition at Goodyear Ballpark today 668 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 4: nineteen to two. That's where we're coming to you in 669 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 4: this edition of the Budweiser reds Hot Stove Red's Hot 670 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 4: Stove League. 671 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 3: Easy for me to say, The. 672 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 4: Cowboy and I are back to wrap things up next 673 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 4: across the Reds Radio Network. Welcome back into the Budweiser 674 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,760 Speaker 4: reds Hot Stove League. Wrapping things up with the Cowboy. 675 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 4: Jeff Brantley, I'm Tommy throw Red's beat Cuba today nineteen 676 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 4: to two at good Year Ballpark, which is where we 677 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 4: are emanating from today on this edition of the Red 678 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 4: Hot Stove League. Cowboy, We've seen a couple of weeks 679 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 4: of spring training. Now still plenty more baseball to go. 680 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 4: After a couple of off days, Tito kind of talked 681 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 4: about we're entering that next phase. We've already had the 682 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,399 Speaker 4: first round of cuts. Nothing real surprising there, but now 683 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 4: you're starting to see players play back to back games, 684 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 4: probably get up to three days in a row for 685 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 4: some of these guys. Are what are some of the 686 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 4: things you're looking for now as you start to even 687 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 4: see some of the pitchers make their third starts and appearances. 688 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 5: I think from a just from a camp standpoint, you're 689 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 5: trying to see who has their legs underneath them as 690 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 5: you move in a position to where you're playing maybe 691 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 5: your starters for six innings, and you're looking at pitchers 692 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 5: who are now not just one time through the lineup, 693 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 5: but they may be going through the lineup multiple times 694 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 5: as you head with your starters into that fifth inning, 695 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,800 Speaker 5: maybe six innings. As we get towards the end of camp, 696 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 5: depending on the pitches, I think that's where the injuries occur. 697 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 5: This time of the year, is when you start to 698 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 5: push guys into the normal playing routine of playing deeper 699 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 5: into the ballgame, the legs start to get tight, and 700 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 5: I think that's where you have to really monitor when 701 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,280 Speaker 5: you're giving guys days off and the same goes with pitching. 702 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,240 Speaker 5: That elbow starts to tighten up, really trying to crank 703 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,919 Speaker 5: on that slider because the hitters are going to catch 704 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 5: up there. It's not just going to be I can 705 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 5: throw my fastball and spend a breaking ball. You have 706 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 5: to be able to execute as you get deeper into camp. 707 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,720 Speaker 5: Reds are back at it again tomorrow. They'll be taking 708 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 5: on the Dodgers here at Goodyear Ballpark. 709 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 4: Jim Day will have the call on that one with 710 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 4: the Cowboy Julian Aguiar will make the start of that. 711 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 4: We'll also see Jose Franco Emelio pagon Toni, Santian Connor Phillips, 712 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 4: among others scheduled to pitch in that game. Three zero 713 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 4: five starts Cincinnati time, two fifty airtime. That's all the 714 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 4: time we have for you today. Thanks for listening. We'll 715 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 4: talk to you again tomorrow across the Reds radio network