WEBVTT - Elect Judge Christopher McDowell 

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<v Speaker 1>805 here, 55KRC, the talk station. Happy Friday Eve, a.k.a. Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>I prefer the latter, or the former. In studio again,

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<v Speaker 1>it's always a pleasure to see him under any circumstances.

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<v Speaker 1>Judge McDowell, we need to keep Judge Christopher McDowell on

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<v Speaker 1>the bench. He's an outstanding jurist. He is, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>a worthy jurist, and he's one of the people we

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<v Speaker 1>need around to, well, who understands the criminal justice system,

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<v Speaker 1>legal system generally, and doesn't play fast and loose depending

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<v Speaker 1>on who's standing in front of him in a court

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<v Speaker 1>of law. Judge McDowell, welcome back to the morning show.

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<v Speaker 1>You heard my conversation with Signal 99.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love Signal 99. As you know, she endorses me,

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<v Speaker 2>as does the FOP. But she has her finger on

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<v Speaker 2>the pulse of what's going on in the city like

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<v Speaker 2>no one else.

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<v Speaker 1>Like no one else. And one of the things I

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<v Speaker 1>brought up right out of the gate, first person to

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<v Speaker 1>know about it and mention it, and even this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>no local news carrying it, although apparently it's certain, the

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<v Speaker 1>decision of the Chief Washington case in the appellate court

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<v Speaker 1>sitting and bank, which is all of the appellate court

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<v Speaker 1>judges in the Sixth Circuit, Now, first off, we had

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<v Speaker 1>the underlying decision came out of, what did I say,

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<v Speaker 1>August of last year? Right. It was a two-to-one decision,

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<v Speaker 1>fighting in favor of Chief Washington and also finding that

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<v Speaker 1>Cheryl Long is going to be personally responsible. She has

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<v Speaker 1>no immunity from the challenges against her, which is really

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<v Speaker 1>profound in and of itself. But then there was an

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<v Speaker 1>appeal for an en banc hearing, which is that all

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<v Speaker 1>of the judges on the Sixth Circuit hear the case

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<v Speaker 1>or review the case. And there were, what, 19 of

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<v Speaker 1>those judges. And the decision came back 19 to 0,

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<v Speaker 1>upholding the prior decision, which suggests even the dissenting judge

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<v Speaker 1>in the earlier decision changed his mind or her mind.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't check who dissented. Am I right on that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's an extraordinarily rare thing. This also happened very

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<v Speaker 2>quickly because you're dealing with the Sixth Circuit. This is

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<v Speaker 2>not just Ohio. This is a multi-state jurisdiction.

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<v Speaker 1>Good point.

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<v Speaker 2>First, in order to get an en banc hearing, you

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<v Speaker 2>have to request it. They don't have to give you

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<v Speaker 2>that hearing. And it's very hard to get such a hearing.

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<v Speaker 2>And so to get the hearing at all is extraordinary.

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<v Speaker 2>And it suggests that the court is accepting it because

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<v Speaker 2>you're telling the court there's a division within the Sixth

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<v Speaker 2>Circuit Court of Appeals on this issue. All right. So

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<v Speaker 2>they said, OK, we'll hear this matter, which is hard

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<v Speaker 2>to hard to get. And then for them to come

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<v Speaker 2>out 19-0 on it, including the dissenting judge, that's extraordinary.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a total slapdown.

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<v Speaker 1>Huge slapdown, which is why I immediately experienced schadenfreude when

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<v Speaker 1>I first read about it from Signal 99 yesterday. So there,

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate your additional wisdom and insight on that one.

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<v Speaker 1>But also another reason to keep Signal 99 in this conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as bring up Mike Odioso, you're working on

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<v Speaker 1>a project with them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, we're working on public safety and laws that coming

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<v Speaker 2>out of my experience as a judge that can help

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<v Speaker 2>public safety here in Ohio. And I had two suggestions

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<v Speaker 2>for Mr. Odioso and Signal 99. The first of which, again,

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<v Speaker 2>coming out of my experience as a judge is, I

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<v Speaker 2>believe that it should be a separate criminal offense for

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<v Speaker 2>someone to cut off their ankle bracelet. To me, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a form of escape.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait a minute. Hold on. News to Brian Thomas, who's

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<v Speaker 1>never practiced criminal law except to be a clerk for

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<v Speaker 1>Merlin Shiverdecker back in the days. It's not a crime

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<v Speaker 1>to cut a monitor off?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they can charge you with things like destruction.

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<v Speaker 1>Property damage.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, Lord.

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<v Speaker 2>But they never, ever do. I've never seen that charge brought.

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<v Speaker 2>Those ankle monitors are very expensive. And when you cut

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<v Speaker 2>an ankle monitor off, that means, one, I've either put

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<v Speaker 2>you on the ankle monitor as part of your bond

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<v Speaker 2>or as part of your probation because I feel you

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<v Speaker 2>need to be watched. And when you cut that ankle

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<v Speaker 2>monitor off, it becomes a very serious matter. They come

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<v Speaker 2>immediately over to my courtroom. They say someone's cut off

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<v Speaker 2>their ankle monitor. I issue a warrant for their arrest.

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<v Speaker 2>And they have to go out and search for this person.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I feel that it's a form of escape.

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<v Speaker 2>And if it's a misdemeanor that you're on bond or

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<v Speaker 2>on probation for, It should be an automatic six months.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's a felony that you're on bond or you're

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<v Speaker 2>on probation for, it should be an automatic one year added.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to deter people from cutting off their ankle

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<v Speaker 2>monitor because for some people it's just a game.

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<v Speaker 1>Clearly a game. We found out about it. Sarah Herringer

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<v Speaker 1>lost her husband in their own apartment and over the ride.

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<v Speaker 1>She's since moved on with her life, and who can

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<v Speaker 1>blame her? But that guy who murdered her husband was

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be wearing an ankle monitor and had been

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<v Speaker 1>out without an ankle monitor. He cut it off for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time. And that was at that point in time,

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<v Speaker 1>I think most of my listening audience, me included, didn't

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<v Speaker 1>realize that they aren't monitoring the ankle monitor people. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's really no oversight. You get the impression when you, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you got an ankle monitor. It's got alarm is going

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<v Speaker 1>to go off. Someone's going to room with video screens,

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<v Speaker 1>looking at, you know, geofencing locations where they can be

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<v Speaker 1>and cannot be. And the minute someone steps out of

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<v Speaker 1>that parameter, alarm goes off and resources are sent to

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<v Speaker 1>pick them up. Nope. Apparently none of that goes on

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<v Speaker 1>unless you can correct the record for me and my

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<v Speaker 1>listening audience.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, It's different for me. I have a very

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<v Speaker 2>good relationship with the EMD people. And so if somebody

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<v Speaker 2>cuts off an ankle monitor, who's on bond or probation

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<v Speaker 2>to me, they, they know that they can call me

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<v Speaker 2>at two o'clock in the morning. They can drive to

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<v Speaker 2>my house and they have driven to my house at two,

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<v Speaker 2>three o'clock in the morning. And I signed that warrant

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<v Speaker 2>and they go out, they'll, they'll have that guy within hours.

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<v Speaker 2>Almost always.

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<v Speaker 1>You mean a warrant needs to be signed when it's

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<v Speaker 1>obvious that someone has cut off their ankle monitor?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. I, Well, I mean, I don't have any problem

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<v Speaker 1>with due process, Judge McDowell, but, I mean, they're under

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<v Speaker 1>parole parameters or under terms and conditions of the release

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<v Speaker 1>that they must maintain an ankle monitor. If you can

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<v Speaker 1>definitively tell that it's not on anymore and it hasn't moved,

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<v Speaker 1>if it's just laying in a corner and has not

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<v Speaker 1>moved for a week or something, I mean, it's just,

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<v Speaker 1>that seems to me that law enforcement should immediately be

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<v Speaker 1>sent to that location to pick them up or at

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<v Speaker 1>least an APB sent out that, hey, so-and-so has violated

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<v Speaker 1>the terms of his parole and he's out on the

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<v Speaker 1>street somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>They come to me and they ask for a warrant

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<v Speaker 2>and I immediately sign that warrant.

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<v Speaker 1>See, that's why we need to keep you. I'm kind

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<v Speaker 1>of curious to know, and I'll ask out loud sort

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<v Speaker 1>of rhetorically, how many other judges here in Hamilton County

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<v Speaker 1>are willing to have that open option and be woken

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the night to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>justice is served?

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you this. When I first became a judge,

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<v Speaker 2>I was given a handbook that told me that I

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<v Speaker 2>should not sign warrants after 5 p.m. And this is

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<v Speaker 2>not a 9-to-5 job. Criminals don't operate 9-to-5, and judges

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<v Speaker 2>should not operate 9-to-5 either. And so it's not just

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<v Speaker 2>the EMD people that I let. I let all the

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<v Speaker 2>detectives in this city know, if you can't reach another judge,

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<v Speaker 2>I would much rather you wake me up at 2

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<v Speaker 2>o'clock in the morning than somebody get hurt. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>the way all judges should think.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. And that is not to suggest that you're not

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<v Speaker 1>reviewing the warrant request for probable cause. It's just that

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<v Speaker 1>you're willing to do it at any given time of

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<v Speaker 1>the day when it's needed.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. And when they come to me, they've got

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<v Speaker 2>to go through the probable cause. This is the person.

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<v Speaker 2>They cut off their ankle monitor. This is the time.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what they're out on. What do you want

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<v Speaker 2>us to do, Judge? It's almost a rhetorical question to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Go pick them up.

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<v Speaker 1>But under what theory should a judge not engage in

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<v Speaker 1>that after 5 p.m.? I'm struggling with that one, Judge McDowell.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that a lot of people look at it

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<v Speaker 2>as a nine-to-five job. I can't answer that question. To me,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not the way things should work. We have a

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<v Speaker 2>warrant database that we are supposed to check in on,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're told basically it's nine-to-five. It used to be

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<v Speaker 2>in common, please, that you would go and you would

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<v Speaker 2>meet the officer at a location. They would come to

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<v Speaker 2>your house, but now they expect you to get on

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<v Speaker 2>your computer and And they say after five o'clock, you're

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<v Speaker 2>not required to monitor. And so that's not the way

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<v Speaker 2>I operate.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's no such concept as a night court running

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<v Speaker 1>24-7 courts in downtown Cincinnati or in Hamilton County.

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<v Speaker 2>No, sir. There should be. I mean, also for the

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<v Speaker 2>convenience of a lot of people, because if you have

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<v Speaker 2>a job and you go down to court, you're missing

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<v Speaker 2>half a day, a full day's work. We should have

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<v Speaker 2>a court that starts in the evening for people so

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<v Speaker 2>they don't have to miss work. We should be in

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<v Speaker 2>the service business as well. And we're not in the

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<v Speaker 2>service business. We sit there like kings and queens waiting

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<v Speaker 2>for everybody to come to us.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you are a taxpayer-paid employee. I mean, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful thing that you can reach the lofty status of

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<v Speaker 1>being a judge. Obviously, people have confidence in your ability

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<v Speaker 1>in that regard. You've achieved the status that many people

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<v Speaker 1>will never achieve. But come on. It is a 24-7

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<v Speaker 1>job because crime's 24-7. I don't understand how anybody couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have that attitude. you know what, you're going to have

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<v Speaker 1>to work some overtime hours if you apply for the

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<v Speaker 1>job of a judge in Hamilton County.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'll do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Same thing for a lot of jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, as you know, if you go down to the

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<v Speaker 2>Hamilton County Courthouse on a Friday at 2.30, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>the Hotel Unshining. There's nobody there. There's nobody there. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of these judges, they're coming in at 10 and

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<v Speaker 2>they're leaving at 2. Some days they don't come in

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<v Speaker 2>at all. And they're signing warrants up to 5 o'clock.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not what the people of Hamilton County should expect.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's not what they get from me. I work.

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<v Speaker 1>This is why we need to keep Judge Chris McDowell

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<v Speaker 1>on the bench. Help him out any way you can. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>vote for him. Keepjudgemcdowell.com is the website. It's his campaign website.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been out putting out signs for your campaign at

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<v Speaker 1>all hours, just like your job. You have to go

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<v Speaker 1>out after work and put the signs up. But business

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<v Speaker 1>is good insofar as sign placement is concerned, Judge.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah, I've got signs up all over the county,

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<v Speaker 2>but I normally put them up around midnight to 1

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<v Speaker 2>or 2 o'clock in the morning because there's no traffic,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's when I can do it because I've got

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<v Speaker 2>a full-time job during the day. The other week, I

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<v Speaker 2>put one up in the daylight, and I thought, gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is so much easier when the sun is out

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<v Speaker 2>than in the dark.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep Judge McDowell.com. One more segment with Judge McDowell. Before

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<v Speaker 1>we get to iHeartMedia aviation expert Jay Ratliff, and after

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned USA Insulation, yep, BCD Talk Station. Happy Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep Judge McDowell.com, where you can help out Judge McDowell,

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<v Speaker 1>who we definitely need to keep on the bench here

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<v Speaker 1>in Hamilton County. Veteran judge, lots of experience, and obviously

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<v Speaker 1>committed to the job of, I guess, only one judge

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<v Speaker 1>in Hamilton County that's willing to get up at night

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<v Speaker 1>and entertain a discussion about a search warrant being issued. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that seems to be a logical part of the job,

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<v Speaker 1>but he seems to be the only one willing to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. But also, you've got a word or two

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<v Speaker 1>to say about bonds, as in, not James Bond, but

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<v Speaker 1>cash bonds, no cash bonds, owner cognizance bonds, which seem

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<v Speaker 1>to be all the rage in Hamilton County as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Does anybody ever have to post a bond, even in

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<v Speaker 1>the most heinous circumstances, circumstances, Judge McDowell? Apparently not. I

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<v Speaker 1>know you got some great illustrations of people who should

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<v Speaker 1>not have been allowed out on the streets without a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty decent bond.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's go back to the definition of the own recognizance.

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<v Speaker 2>What people need to know, it's called an O.R. bond,

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<v Speaker 2>own recognizance. When someone's issued an O.R. bond, all they

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<v Speaker 2>need do is sign a piece of paper and then

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<v Speaker 2>they walk out of the jail. They don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>put up any money. They just have to say, I

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<v Speaker 2>promise to show up for court. I have seen, since

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<v Speaker 2>I've been a judge, an O.R. bond on a rape case,

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<v Speaker 2>a felony of the first degree rape case with an

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<v Speaker 2>OR bond. I cannot imagine being a woman who has

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<v Speaker 2>been raped, reported that, gone through the rape kit, gone

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<v Speaker 2>through all of that, and then the sigh of relief

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<v Speaker 2>that you must feel when you realize the police have

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<v Speaker 2>apprehended that person, that he's in the jail, and then

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<v Speaker 2>to realize he's just walked out of the jail, not

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<v Speaker 2>posted any amount of money. and how terrified that person

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<v Speaker 2>must be.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, remind the listeners the obligation of at least a

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<v Speaker 1>judge who understands the law here in Ohio, what they're

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to consider in determining whether or not a bond

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be issued or they're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>allowed on own recognizance.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the most important thing for a felony of that degree,

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<v Speaker 2>a felony of the first degree, in which you're looking

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<v Speaker 2>at between three and 11 years in prison, is public safety.

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<v Speaker 2>We passed a constitutional amendment here in Ohio that says

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<v Speaker 2>judges are mandated to take into consideration public safety when

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<v Speaker 2>they issue bonds. There are other factors to take into consideration.

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<v Speaker 2>But public safety should be your North Star when you're

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<v Speaker 2>looking at a rape case. The safety of that woman

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<v Speaker 2>who reported that rape. At a minimum, right, you need

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<v Speaker 2>to set a high cash bond. And then you also

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<v Speaker 2>need to, we've got this jurist monitor where the guy,

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<v Speaker 2>if he's out, would have to wear an ankle bracelet.

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<v Speaker 2>that would put like a geogrid over the woman so

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<v Speaker 2>if he ever comes into that area, it would send

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<v Speaker 2>off an alarm so she would know.

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<v Speaker 1>So she would know. I like that development.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Because, of course, you know, keeping the public interest in

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<v Speaker 1>mind and public safety in mind, of course, includes the

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<v Speaker 1>victim's safety in this circumstances.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, to the extent anybody ever gets out

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<v Speaker 2>on a charge like that, they should have the jurist

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<v Speaker 2>monitor because, you know, the police are minutes away when

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<v Speaker 2>seconds count. And so if you are... that woman and

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<v Speaker 2>that person is coming into that zone, it automatically alerts you. So,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, get the heck out of the house.

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<v Speaker 1>Unless of course that person has cut their ankle monitor off.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is a real problem here in Hamilton County. Jeez.

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<v Speaker 1>And under what theory, I always want to default to

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of woke perception of the justice system. And

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<v Speaker 1>I presume that's where this springs from, but under what

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<v Speaker 1>theory should a rapist be, be allowed out with owner-cognizance bond?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, is that good for society? I struggle with

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<v Speaker 1>that one, Judge.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't answer that question because it's so beyond the

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<v Speaker 2>pale to me. You have progressives who portend to have

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<v Speaker 2>the interest of women and minorities at heart, but yet

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<v Speaker 2>when these people are let out, who's at risk? It's

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<v Speaker 2>minority communities, overwhelmingly. It's black-on-black crime that we mostly are

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<v Speaker 2>dealing with. They're going to go back to those communities

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<v Speaker 2>and they're going to hurt people in those communities. They're

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<v Speaker 2>going to hurt women. Time and time again, I see

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<v Speaker 2>bonds for crimes against women that are not protecting women.

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<v Speaker 2>I review every felony, the first, second, and third degree.

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<v Speaker 2>I conduct those arraignments to make sure that those people

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<v Speaker 2>are protected. Let me tell you this, Brian. No one

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<v Speaker 2>who has been out on bond to me since I

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<v Speaker 2>have been a judge has gone on to hurt someone

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<v Speaker 2>else while they were on bond. That should be The

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<v Speaker 2>same for every judge in this county.

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<v Speaker 1>Amen, Judge Christopher McDowell. Keep Judge McDowell. Absolutely. Keepjudgemcdowell.com to

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<v Speaker 1>help us do that. And, you know, you mentioned this

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<v Speaker 1>whole concept of, you know, rapes and low bonds. I

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<v Speaker 1>saw that Cincinnati Police Department STARS report that they released

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of looking at last year versus this year.

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<v Speaker 1>241 reported rape offenses reported. Year-to-date through October 10th compared

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<v Speaker 1>with 154 last year. In other words, a 56.5% increase

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<v Speaker 1>in rapes, and that's reported rapes, sir. Numbers are on

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<v Speaker 1>the rise, and apparently some of the judges in Hamilton

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<v Speaker 1>County just don't seem to appreciate the gravity of that crime.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when there's no consequence, it's like juveniles. When there's

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<v Speaker 2>no consequence, criminals know it.

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<v Speaker 1>Know your judges. Please, listening audience, spread the good word

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<v Speaker 1>about Judge McDowell and the other judges. GOPjudges.com and Hammond

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<v Speaker 1>County Republican Party websites got it. You know, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>care what you say about the Republican Party, my blue-leaning friends.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're voting for the judges on the blue sheet,

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<v Speaker 1>you are voting for, yeah, zero bond for rapists, the

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<v Speaker 1>release of juveniles without any consequence whatsoever. We could go

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<v Speaker 1>on and on. You get the idea. Words out. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>keep our eyes on the bench this year, and Judge

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<v Speaker 1>McDowell is a recipe for for keeping the ship in

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<v Speaker 1>the right direction. Judge, thank you so much for your

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<v Speaker 1>time today. I wish you all the luck in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, sir. God bless you.

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<v Speaker 1>And don't run over Judge McDowell. He's out putting roads

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<v Speaker 1>or putting up campaign signs in front yards. The return

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<v Speaker 1>of iHeartMedia aviation expert Jay Ratliff.