1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Joining us now is Mike Minogue. He is the He's 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: a Republican candidate for governor. As you know, there is 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: a primary now taking place. There are three candidates who 4 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: are running to be the Republican nominee to challenge Governor Moraheely. 5 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: We had two of them on, Mike Kinely, then Brian Shortsleeve, 6 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: and now, of course Mike Minogue himself. Mike, do we 7 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: have do we have? Mister Minogue? 8 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 2: One? 9 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 3: I'm on Jeff Dive here. 10 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: Mike Minogue, thank you so much for coming on. We've 11 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:39,639 Speaker 1: only got ten minutes, so I just want to get 12 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: right to it. Mike, what And I asked this of 13 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 1: the other candidates as well, So I want to be fair. 14 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: Why you for all the great you know listeners in 15 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: Kooner Country and it's a vast audience, as you know, 16 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: and they're going to be voting in this primary. It's 17 00:00:55,000 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: an overwhelmingly Republican conservative audience, patriotic audience. Why should they 18 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 1: vote for you over Kennely and Brian Shortsleeve. 19 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 3: Well, a good question, and I am built to win. 20 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 3: I'm winning the polls. I'm a proven leader in the military, 21 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 3: from West Point to being in combat. I'm a proven 22 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 3: leader in business around a public company for nineteen years 23 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 3: called Abumen, and I'm a proven leader in the nonprofit 24 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 3: I am not part of the political establishment that has 25 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 3: bankrupt and broke in Massachusetts and running a public company, 26 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 3: you know, I have put manufacturing jobs in the state. 27 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 3: I know what it's like to cut through red tape 28 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 3: by healthcare deal with the government. And I also represented 29 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 3: the medical device industry for nineteen years, so I have 30 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 3: a different skill set. But most important people want an 31 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 3: outsider who's going to solve problems, who doesn't care about 32 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 3: the next election and never wants to go to d C. 33 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 3: So I want to be the CEO and governor of 34 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 3: Massachusetts to make it the best place to live, to 35 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 3: work and raise a family, and we can do it again. 36 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: We're talking with Mike Minogue, Republican candidate for governor. Mike, 37 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 1: I've asked this of Kennely and short Sleeve. I want 38 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: to ask it of you, obviously, as you know, I'm 39 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: a trump Man. I voted for Trump three times. I'm 40 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: a big supporter of the America First agenda. But that's me. 41 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: What do you feel about our Republican president? Did you 42 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: vote for Donald Trump in twenty twenty four. 43 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 3: So this is the example of why our political insiders 44 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 3: have not been holding the principles of our party. I'm 45 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 3: a Republican, I support the Republican Party. Of course I 46 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 3: supported the president and the last three elections. And we 47 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 3: need to get back to common sense and solving problems. 48 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 3: And if we have people that don't understand that what 49 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 3: are prints are, then they're not going to be good leaders. 50 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 3: So my vision is to be the leader. I have 51 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 3: the strong principles and the background, and what we need 52 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 3: to do is see each other as neighbors that want 53 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 3: to solve the problems. And my primary focus is on 54 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 3: the audit, not just of the legislature, but of the 55 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 3: entire government system. The sixty three billion dollar budget. We 56 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 3: need accountability, which I'll do it. We need affordability, which 57 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 3: means we invest in energy. We need opportunity, which means 58 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 3: we need to thank and keep our entrepreneurs and businesses 59 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 3: and recruit new ones. And then last, the governor has 60 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 3: to keep our citizens safe and uphold the law. I 61 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 3: will get rid of the sanctuary status. I will get 62 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 3: rid of right to shelter for free for non citizens, 63 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 3: and we will go back to making the state work 64 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 3: for the people, not the political establishment. 65 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: Mike, I'm just curious just to get a clear answer. 66 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: So you're saying, yes, you did vote for Trump three 67 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: times in twenty sixteen, twenty twenty, and twenty twenty four. Correct, Yes, Okay, Mike. 68 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: I've got to ask you then, because this is what 69 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: your opponents are saying, and I want to give you 70 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: a chance to defend yourself that. Okay, Mike Minogue. You 71 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: may play well in a Republican primary, no question, but 72 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: in a general election, this is Massachusetts, it's a blue state. 73 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: How is Mike Minogue who voted for Trump three times? 74 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: I voted for Trump three times, so there's no disagreement 75 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: there between you and me. But from a political strategy 76 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: point of view, how is Mike Minogue going to win 77 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: over independence and say moderate Democrats, the voters that he 78 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: needs to win over to defeat Healey in November? 79 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? First of all, I'm not a politician, and I 80 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 3: think that's the first thing the independents want. The next 81 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 3: thing is I'm running to on the waste and fraud 82 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 3: of our taxpayer dollars. And it's public record that I 83 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 3: supported Diana Dezaglio, the state auditor. I helped her identify 84 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 3: a lawyer and a law firm that would support her, 85 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 3: and I offered financial support. And what you're seeing is 86 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 3: the ag won't even let that ruling go to Supreme 87 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 3: Judicial Court. So two point four million people voted for 88 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 3: the audit and I need one point four to five 89 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 3: million to win. We are not a red state, we 90 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 3: are not a blue state. We are an independent state. 91 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 3: In fact, eight percent the Republican Party is eight percent, 92 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 3: went of lowest in the nation. The Democrat Party is 93 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 3: twenty four percent registered, also one of the lowest in 94 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 3: the nation for Democrats. My message is about solving problems, 95 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 3: being an outsider, coming in with a blueprint, to get accountability, 96 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 3: to get affordability, and invest in innovation. And many of 97 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 3: these problems can be solved, but they're not solved by 98 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 3: blue versus has read arguments. They're solved by common sense 99 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 3: and compassion and with someone who has the skill set 100 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 3: to win. That's why I've got the most delegates, i 101 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 3: got the most volunteers, i got the most grassroots. I've 102 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 3: got the most cash on hand. That's what it takes 103 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 3: to win. In fact, I have more cash on hand 104 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 3: than my two opponents and Governor Heally, and we are 105 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 3: built to win and people want something new, and I 106 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 3: am going to come in and solve problems, not campaign 107 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 3: on them. 108 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: Mike. In terms of ICE and ICE enforcement, as you know, 109 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: Heally has made a very big deal about having Massachusetts 110 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: become essentially a sanctuary state. She has ordered law enforcement 111 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: not to cooperate with ICE. Should you become governor, Mike Minogue, 112 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: will you cooperate with ICE? And will you make the 113 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: deportation of violent illegal aliens a top priority in your administration? 114 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 2: Yeah? 115 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 3: So let me go even deeper. So it makes no sense. 116 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 3: And I posted on this this morning that we are 117 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 3: protecting known violent gang member, drug dealer, illegal immigrants. That 118 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 3: is not upholding the law. That is not protecting our citizens, 119 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 3: and that is the fundamental job of the governor. And 120 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 3: she's playing party politics. And people understand that if we 121 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 3: have these gang member drug dealers, violent criminals in prison, 122 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 3: it would be so much easier to turn them over 123 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 3: to the DEA and then ICE doesn't even need to 124 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 3: go into the neighborhoods. What we need to do is 125 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 3: we need to cooperate with local and federal law enforcement 126 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 3: for the benefit and safety of our citizens and our 127 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 3: law enforcement. You know, this has been going back for decades. 128 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 3: This is the law. So if the politicians in DC 129 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 3: on both sides want to change it, then they need 130 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: to get together. In the meantime, the governor upholds the law. 131 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 3: Law protects our citizens and of course protects our law 132 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 3: enforcement officers. 133 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: Mike, should you become governor, Okay, what would you do 134 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: with say mayor Michelle Wu. She's declared Boston, as you know, 135 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: a sanctuary city. She's ordered Boston the local PD to 136 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: not cooperate with ICE. What would you do to rein 137 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: in Michelle Wu and her opposition to ICE and to 138 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: enforcing federal immigration law. 139 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 3: So when I am governor, I will declare that we 140 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 3: are no longer a sanctuary state. I will declare that 141 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 3: free right to shelter does not apply to illegal immigrants, 142 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 3: and I will make sure that we are cooperating with 143 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 3: the federal agencies. That is the law, and if any 144 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 3: mayor chooses to break the law, they will be held accountable. 145 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: Mike, I don't want to push you too hard, but 146 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: I got to ask you when you say accountable, what 147 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 1: do you mean are you going to withhold funding. Are 148 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: you gonna, I don't know, are you gonna demand that 149 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,599 Speaker 1: she stepped down? What would you do to hold her accountable? 150 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 3: Well, I think the first thing is the state police 151 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 3: work for the governor, and I would work very closely 152 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 3: with the US Attorney Leopoli. I would also work very 153 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 3: closely with the state auditor, who if it's Dinah Dezaglio, 154 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 3: I'd be happy to work with her. I have a 155 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 3: great relationship with her. And on the law enforcement, I 156 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 3: believe that many people that are in the Boston Police 157 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 3: Department also want to follow the law. And we use 158 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 3: this thing the loon versus the commonwealth, which acts like 159 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 3: that trumps over federal law. It doesn't. And if you've 160 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 3: noticed that mayors, when they've been threatened by the federal office, 161 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 3: they will had heard for the law. So there's other 162 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 3: ways to do it. But again I think it starts 163 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 3: with the leader that wants to solve problems. And I 164 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 3: also think that citizens when they understand and they see 165 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 3: the people that I am deporting, and I would do 166 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 3: it just like what the DEEA does. I would have 167 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 3: their pick. Sure, I would show their crimes, and any 168 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 3: reasonable person would celebrate knowing that these people are being 169 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 3: removed not just from Massachusetts but from the United States 170 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 3: of America. The job of the government fundamentally is to 171 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 3: protect and keep our citizens safe. 172 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: I will do that, Mike. We've got two minutes left 173 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: very quickly. Energy costs very high in Massachusetts. I don't 174 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: need to tell you that it's one of the number 175 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: one issues for my listeners. What will you do should 176 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: you become governor to bring energy electricity costs down? 177 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 3: So I'm an engineer, I invest innovation, and that's what 178 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 3: I'll do on energy. First thing the governor can do, 179 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 3: and I will do day one. I'll get rid of 180 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 3: a third of your utility climate fees, taxes that has 181 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 3: nothing to do with the energy you use. The second 182 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 3: thing is I'll make plans and give details of how 183 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 3: we bring in natural gas pipelines. They're in Pennsylvania and 184 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 3: they're in New York, not in Iran. As our current 185 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 3: governors trying to blame the energy costs on the Iran 186 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 3: So apparently she doesn't know that there's no natural gas 187 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 3: in Iran. America is blessed with natural gas. It's clean, 188 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 3: it's sheap, it's safe. We need to bring that in 189 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 3: and nuclear energy, new modular energy. Yes, it has a 190 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 3: bad reputation from the past, but twenty percent of our 191 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 3: power today comes from the Seabrook facility in New Hampshire. 192 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 3: And then I'm going to go recruit energy companies and 193 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 3: I'm going to look at leasing and selling land to them. 194 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 3: I'm going to do that also with builders, developers and 195 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 3: companies because we cannot have a strong economy and low 196 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 3: cost of energy unless we have a new grid. That's 197 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 3: the optimism. But when we do that, we can lower 198 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 3: energy prices. We can run our hospitals twenty four by 199 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 3: seven in the winner, and we can recruit many companies 200 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 3: that can manufacture because we need energy to get back 201 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 3: to made in Massachusetts. And I love getting out on 202 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 3: the road. I'm seeing more people taking direct questions and 203 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 3: I'm touring facilities. Manufacture is the key to low bocking, 204 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 3: in innovation, a strong economy for decades to come. And 205 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 3: I'm the only candidate that's ever run a company and 206 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 3: put manufacturing in the Commonwealth, and I'll continue to do 207 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 3: it and respect and thank every manufacturer, every entrepreneur in 208 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 3: every business when they're here paying bills and employing our people. 209 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: Mike, I've done it for the other two candidates. I 210 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: want to do it for you quickly. Where can people 211 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: go your website to find out more about the issues 212 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: that you stand on and if they want to volunteer 213 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: or donate. 214 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 3: Thank you Jeff for that. So my website is Minogue 215 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 3: for maa dot com again Minogue forma dot com. I 216 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 3: also have social media on there for everything. In all 217 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 3: my interviews and my focus is AAOKA, accountability, affordability, opportunity, 218 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 3: keep community safe. God bless you, God bless America, and 219 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 3: I look forward to coming back on again and talking 220 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 3: to your audience. 221 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. We've been talking with Mike Minogue, 222 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: Republican candidate for governor. We'll have a lot more take 223 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: more of your calls very quickly, very very quickly. Okay. 224 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: Gas prices are going up, obviously, everybody can feel it now. 225 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: A year ago. A year ago it was three to 226 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: ten again, the national average gas prices three dollars ten 227 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: cents a gallon. A month ago it was two dollars 228 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: and ninety two cents a gallon. A week ago it 229 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: was three dollars and I believe thirty eight cents a 230 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: gallon it is now three dollars and eighty eight cents 231 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: a gallon. That's the national average. Obviously different states with 232 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: taxes and you know whatever local taxes, state taxes, but 233 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: basically we're creeping up to four dollars a gallon. But 234 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: a month ago we had it under three bucks. We 235 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: had it at two ninety. So it's not quite gone 236 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: up a full dollar a gallon, but almost, you know, 237 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: four cents. So it has gone up ninety six cents 238 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: a gallon in one month. And if the war continues 239 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,599 Speaker 1: and they keep hammering these oil facilities and oil infrastructure, 240 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: it's going to go up more and more and more 241 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: six one seven two six, six, sixty eight sixty eight. Okay, 242 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: maestro mic what do you want men to go to next? 243 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: Mike Palm in Bridgewater. Thanks for holding palm and welcome 244 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: you might call. 245 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 4: I think people are all over the place right now. 246 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 4: Of course, nukes is out of the question that that's 247 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 4: just crazy. We don't need nukes. But people claiming that 248 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 4: we should just pull out and claim victory. How can 249 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 4: we claim victory if we just like just leave the 250 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 4: cancer there to grow again. It just doesn't make sense. 251 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 4: We need to finish the job. We need. We need 252 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 4: to you know, change, we need to, like, we just 253 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 4: need to finish the job. 254 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: Well, tom My question to you is finish the job? 255 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: I think you mean regime change, overthrow the Mullas. 256 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 5: Correct, definitely, Yes, it looks. 257 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: Like if if you're gonna do that, you're gonna have 258 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: to introduce ground troops. They were hoping for a popular uprising. 259 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: It's not happening, and they, you know, both is the 260 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: Israeli intelligence American intelligence are saying it's gonna be a 261 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: while before the regime collapses, if it collapses at all. 262 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: So if we're gonna have to, if we're gonna finish 263 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: the job, it looks like we're gonna have to put 264 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: boots on the ground. Do you support boots on the 265 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: ground to topple the Mullas. 266 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 4: I say, we don't put them on the count Like 267 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 4: right now, I think we can continue to beat them 268 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 4: down the way we have been and just like choke 269 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 4: off the island, you know, just put on like a 270 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 4: naval blockade and don't let anything in or out until 271 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 4: and and just keep. 272 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: Degrading them, right, just keep pounding them and bombing them, 273 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: and just degrade them and degrade them, and the grade them, 274 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: and the grade them, and to the point that they 275 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: just they just dissolve. They just you know, they just 276 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: break apart from just the constant pressure. 277 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 5: Correct. 278 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 4: I think they won't have a choice after a while, 279 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 4: and and only put the boots on the ground when 280 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 4: you know everything's you know, more or less secure, you 281 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 4: as a as a police and not like a military. 282 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: Uh in other words, yeah, like a stabilization, a little 283 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: bit like an occupation force, but long short term, not 284 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: long term correct to. 285 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 4: Knock out all the you know, the cells that are 286 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 4: hiding in the caves and stuff like that. But I 287 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 4: think we you know, like I said, we don't need nukes. 288 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 4: I think we can continue to beat them down the 289 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 4: way we are and uh, you know, boots on the ground, 290 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 4: you know, when when it's more secure. 291 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: Tom, Are you worried though, that oil prices will continue 292 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: to go up, you know the cause you know whatever, 293 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 1: it'll be one for fifty dollars a barrel. This may 294 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: cause even a recession higher inflation, and that this will 295 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: hurt Trump badly in the midterms politically. Can he continue 296 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: to allow this war to go on? 297 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 4: I can't stand politics. I think he needs to do 298 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 4: what needs to be done. That's that's why I voted 299 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 4: for him, because he you know, he's right from the hip. 300 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 4: He does things that need to be done, and you know, 301 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 4: the politics is all you know from the. 302 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: I hear you. So Tom, basically Tom's position is don't 303 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: send in the ground troops yet. Okay, this is breaking 304 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: news right now. Obviously, there was a briefing today at 305 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: the Pentagon by Secretary of War Pete Hegseth and the 306 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, General Dan raising Kine. They 307 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: have made it official now the Pentagon is asking Congress 308 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 1: for an additional two hundred billion dollars in order to 309 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: prosecute the war in Iran. So they're asking for what's 310 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: called supplemental funding on top of the budget, the the 311 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 1: you know, one point five trillion dollar budget that we 312 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: have for a defense. They say they need an extra 313 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: two hundred billion in order to continue and to successfully 314 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: prosecute the war. So it's not peanuts, it's a lot 315 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: of money. But Trump believes that's what it's going to 316 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 1: take to win the war. Six one seven two six 317 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 1: six sixty eight sixty eight. Steve in the Freedom State Florida. 318 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: Thanks for holding Steve, and welcome. 319 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 3: Jeff. 320 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning, Jeff. I hope you you're doing great. 321 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 2: Yes again, I always tell you I love your show. 322 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 2: You are the absolute best. 323 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you. 324 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 2: I have two subjects and I hope you give me 325 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 2: the time and I will try to be brief. Subject 326 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 2: number one the lie that Israel talk President Trump into 327 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 2: going to war. Let me please address this and the 328 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 2: solution will be very very quickly. But you have anti 329 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 2: Semites like Tucker Carson, Candice Owens, Megan Kelly, Nick Fuantes, 330 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 2: Steve Bannon that have huge followings that are perpetuating a lie. Jeff, 331 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 2: Israel is a country with ten million people their democracy. 332 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 2: They don't ask for trouble, but it shortcomes their way 333 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 2: and they have to respond when that happens. And a 334 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 2: part for the recent health that the United States gave 335 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 2: in knocking out the Iran's nuclear capability, Israel has fought 336 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 2: their own fight since they were born in nineteen forty eight. 337 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 2: As a country. They don't preach death to America the month. 338 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 2: They don't throw gay people off of roofs the Muslims do. 339 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 2: They don't have honor killings of their daughters when they 340 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 2: don't want to subscribe to Sharia law the Muslims do. 341 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 2: Israel has Muslims in their government because they're a democracy. 342 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 2: Israel is trying to help the Iranian people. Now, obviously, 343 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 2: President Trump felt something recently that change that caused him 344 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 2: to say, We've got to go into Iran. What he 345 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 2: said was, and he didn't tell us this, but what 346 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 2: he I'm sure believed was that these ballistic missiles today 347 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 2: that exist are beyond dangerous and really a threat to us. 348 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 2: And he felt that the time was too close and 349 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 2: we had to do something. Now, if you think about 350 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 2: the United States of America, the United States of America 351 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 2: was formed two hundred and fifty years ago by patriots 352 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:01,959 Speaker 2: who were alpha males who took it upon themselves to 353 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 2: fight somebody for freedom. We have become the greatest country 354 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 2: in the world. You have diverse callers. You have authored 355 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 2: from Chestnut Hills, who is a phenomenal patriot, and I'm 356 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 2: sure he's an alpha male. On the other hand, you 357 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 2: have Richard who recently called, who said that you know 358 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 2: Israel has caused this to happen, and other reasons why 359 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 2: I suggest he's a beta male. Well, I got to 360 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 2: tell you we need alpha males. We don't need beta males. Now, 361 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 2: the solution is very simple. We don't have to put 362 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 2: troops on the ground. I think Israel would be glad 363 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 2: to put troops on the ground. If you remember history 364 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 2: the Trojan Horse, when the Greeks responded to Troy, what 365 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 2: they did was they brought into Trojan Horse. Well, what 366 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 2: we need to do now is ask the CIA why 367 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 2: they and must say God cannot develop a plan to 368 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 2: arm the Iranian people so the Iranian people can fight 369 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 2: their own battle against the military in Iran. That that 370 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 2: has a huge advantage. The Iranian people have no military. 371 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 2: If they had guns, if we could figure out a 372 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 2: way to get them guns, which I'm sure we can. 373 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 2: The Masad was able to figure out how to explode 374 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 2: pagers a couple of years ago against all of these people. 375 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 2: We figured out where the bad, the bad Iranian leaders 376 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 2: are located, and we can take them out. There's got 377 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 2: to be a way that we can develop a plan 378 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 2: to arm the Iranian people. They need arms, and they 379 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 2: will fight back, and then you will overthrow these these 380 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 2: these twelfth century UH crazies, and they will have freedom. 381 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 2: They will get along with Israel, you will have peace 382 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 2: in the world, and Trump will will Will Will will 383 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 2: get the credit. 384 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 5: That he deserves. 385 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 2: This man deserve so much credit it's ridiculous. So am 386 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 2: I in favor of nuclear no chance. Am I a 387 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 2: favor of boots on the ground passively on a limited 388 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 2: basis to get the arms to the Iranian people so 389 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 2: they can be they're. 390 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: Oh, you know, Steve, I got to say, and by 391 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: the way, you've really made the argument. I have to 392 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: say in terms of not well, not just boots on 393 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: the ground, but just in terms of the defense of 394 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: the war. I think you've really made the argument. I 395 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: think very eloquently, very powerfully, Steve, that's the sixty four 396 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 1: thousand dollars question. I think that's the question. And I 397 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 1: don't know why that wasn't asked of Radcliffe yesterday when 398 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 1: he was talking, when he was testifying, because you know, 399 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: the Democrats are just out to get Trump. But if 400 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: I was a senator, I'd say, look, why hasn't the 401 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: CIA in partnership or coordination with Masad because we're you know, 402 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: we're together with Israel, we're you know, Upper Operation Epic Fury, 403 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 1: we're bombing Iran and the goal is ultimately regime changed. 404 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: That's what both bb net Niyahu and Trump have said. 405 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 1: Why haven't we developed a clandestine program like Reagan did, 406 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: for example, and to defeat the Soviet Union, you know, 407 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: the Reagan doctrine as it was called, secretly arm our 408 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: allies around the world to defeat the Communists. Why wasn't 409 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: there a network or a program or a pipeline put 410 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: in place for us to arm the Iranian opposition and 411 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: subvert and defeat them from within. I you know, I'd 412 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: like to know a straight answer to that, because that's 413 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: why we're in a bit of a pickle now in 414 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: terms of having to send our troops, whether to send 415 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: our troops. The Strait of Horn moves these continuing. I 416 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 1: don't want to say strength, that's not the right word. 417 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: But you know, as the Israelis put it, they still 418 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: have firm control. The regime in Tehran, you know, has 419 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: firm control, and they don't see a collapse coming in 420 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 1: the near future because in some sense, both Israel and 421 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: the UN the United States have underestimated. Again I'm not 422 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 1: saying it's fifty sixty seventy percent support, but it's not 423 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: five to ten percent, that there was more strength for 424 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: the regime in the rural areas, in the provincial areas 425 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: where they're more religious, more fundamentalist, more loyal to the regime. 426 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: We thought Tehran was Iran, and it turns out Tehran 427 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: it's you know that those middle class, upper middle class, 428 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: educated neighborhoods. We thought, well, yeah, that's the people of Iran. 429 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 1: It's not. And so they've got more depth and they've 430 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: got more of a base than we thought. So that's why, 431 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: you know, they thought, yeah, in two three weeks, we 432 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 1: bomb them, and the people are going to rise up 433 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 1: and overthrow these savages. So I'd love to know why 434 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: we didn't have a clandestine program to train them, to 435 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: arm them, to fund them, and to wage an internal insurgency. 436 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 1: So and now the Strait is blocked, gas prices are 437 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: shooting up. To give the Molas their due. I think 438 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: we have underestimated them a little bit. They're hitting these 439 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: oil fields, they're hitting the oil infrastructure, they're pounding these 440 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: Gulf nations. Some of these missiles and drones are getting through, 441 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: and it's starting now to cost the economy. There's no 442 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: question prices are going up oil's going up. Energy is 443 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,199 Speaker 1: going up. I mean, you know you're looking at it 444 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: from delivering a victory. I hear you. I just want 445 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: to say one very quick thing, super quick, and I 446 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: want to go back to the phone lines. You know, 447 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: I want this show to go in one into the vault. 448 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: I was just mentioning this to others, how civil and 449 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: thoughtful and engaging and frankly intelligent the debate has been. 450 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: It's you know, Trump voters, Trump's supporters, people who voted 451 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 1: for Trump, many of them, you know, many of us 452 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 1: three times and with differing opinions on the war, some four, 453 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: some against. So I'm a little bit in the middle. 454 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: But you know, look at the quality of the debate 455 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: and just you know, the how thoughtful and passionate, but still, 456 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: you know, very respectful it's been. And that's why I 457 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: keep saying over and over again, best audience in the business. 458 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: Six one seven two, six six sixty eight sixty eight. 459 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 1: So honestly, a big thank you from the cooner man 460 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: Vince in Long Island, New York. Thanks for holding Vince 461 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: and welcome. 462 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 5: Hello Koumba, Jeff. 463 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: How you doing, Vince, my friend, how are you? 464 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 5: I'm listening. I'm listening. I want to say. One of 465 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 5: the points Joeys make is if you're not there to 466 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 5: speak the truth, then what's the point of you being there? Yes, 467 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 5: and I say, if we spend all this money and 468 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 5: training on our military and we're not willing to use it, 469 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 5: what's the point of having it. I mean, it's there 470 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 5: for a reason. The world respects strength, and if you 471 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 5: have the moral high ground to go with it, it 472 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 5: doesn't hurt. We go back to the Jimmy Carter era, 473 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 5: the weasel period, and what do you do. He gave away, 474 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 5: he ran, He attempted a catastrophic, half assed rescue of 475 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 5: the hostages. He gave away the Panama Canal. He allowed 476 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 5: Cuba to extend their tentacles into Grenada and Nicaragua El Salvador, 477 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 5: and then he allowed the Russians to have their their 478 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 5: venture into Afghanistan, and then he threatened them with World 479 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 5: War three. They when they misguided, misjudged his boundaries, and 480 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 5: that's what people always do. And then of course grab Biden, 481 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 5: who just cut and run from Afghanistan, which resulted into 482 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 5: the invasion of the Ukraine. And this is one of 483 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 5: the reasons I'm thinking that these allies don't want to 484 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 5: get involved with us in any further excursions because they're 485 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 5: not sure if we're going to leave them holding the bank. 486 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 5: We can portray this kind of weakness, you know, weakness 487 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 5: only brings on more aggression around the world. What we 488 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 5: need to do is just let our military win and 489 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 5: tie their hands because we've always tied their hands. Iraq 490 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 5: was a complete catastrophe with tying their hands and what 491 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 5: they could do and what they couldn't do. We can't 492 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 5: keep doing that kind of crap. 493 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 3: You know. 494 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 5: And what's the point of pushing this confrontation with Iran 495 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 5: ten years down the road so we can fight and 496 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 5: Iran with nuclear weapons? I mean, it makes no sense 497 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 5: kill them in an earlier stage versus Can you imagine 498 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 5: if these bombs landing in Israel were nuclear missiles downstead 499 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 5: of regular missiles, I mean, you know. And plus we 500 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 5: should take the oil, like Trump always says, to pay 501 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 5: for this expense of basically liberating them. We shouldn't be suckers. 502 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 5: We should be paid. Not only are we wasting our 503 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,479 Speaker 5: blood and treasure, we should be compensated for that. And 504 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 5: what I want to say, the only war the Democrats 505 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 5: are interested in is the war on America. That's their 506 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 5: only war that they're interested in. That's the war they 507 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 5: fight constantly. And that's the points I wanted to make. 508 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this because there's some speculation, just 509 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: to further your point, that one of the reasons why 510 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: Trump may be sending this marine expeditionary force about as 511 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: I said, twenty two hundred troops to take carg Island 512 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: is if you take carg Island, I mean, yes, they 513 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: have oil fields all over the country, it's not but 514 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: the point is, you take carg Island, you're almost taking 515 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: Iron's oil. I mean, you know, if you can't refine it, 516 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: and you can't process it, and you know you don't 517 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: have the oil pipelines to export it, your your oil 518 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: is useless. So in a way, it's almost like he's 519 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: taking carg Island to then tell the Iranians afterwards, when 520 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: there's an end to this war, well, you're going to 521 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: have to pay us back we've got and we're not 522 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: going to relinquish carg Island until you pay us back. 523 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: Whatever the number is, fifty billion, one hundred billion, I'm 524 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: just making up a number now. But in other words, 525 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: you're going to give us your oil until we say, 526 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: do you think Trump should do that? In other words, 527 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: temporarily take carg Island and force the Molus to pay 528 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: us back. If we can get this to. 529 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 5: The endgame, absolutely, and we should take a perpetual share 530 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 5: of that oil to basically police the area. And you know, 531 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 5: we cannot keep dealing with these molas. Their tentacles are 532 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 5: extending across the entire Middle East. They're going to convert 533 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 5: the entire entire Middle East into fanatics like them, and 534 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 5: it's going to resort in the nuclear war between Israel 535 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 5: and them. We need to do something about it. I mean, 536 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 5: it's the timing may not be the best, and we 537 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 5: have to worry about the economy and everything, but you 538 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 5: know what, a nuclear weapon hitting you in the head 539 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 5: is a lot worse than paying five dollars a gallon 540 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 5: for fuel. 541 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: Vince, thank you very much for that call.