1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: This is Duke of Duke Seafood letting you know that 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: this hour of Softian Dick on your home for the 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: Huskies and Kraken is proudly brought to you by Duke Seafood. 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: Why not make it a Duke's night tonight. Reserve your 5 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: table today at Dukeseafood dot com on sports Radio ninety 6 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: three point three KJARFM MS dot com. 7 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 2: Runner his own fourteen yard line, moving up the right. 8 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 3: How they sniffed the ball? Man? 9 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 2: He was going to say something to Paul counted into 10 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 2: the m zone. It counts out of the end zone. 11 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: A flag was tone and they rule of safety. That 12 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 2: is the wickist score in Super Bowl history. 13 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 4: Oh man, that was a lot of fun, a lot 14 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 4: of fun back then, and we maybe get back to 15 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 4: those good times here in Seattle and joining us Cliff 16 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 4: Averell from those championship Seahawk teams. 17 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 5: How you doing, Cliff? 18 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 3: I am good. I am man. I can't complain. How 19 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 3: you guys doing many well? 20 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 5: We are doing good. 21 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 4: It's it's starting to remind us a little bit about 22 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 4: when we were doing when you and I were doing 23 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 4: radio shows all twelve thirteen years ago, and we had 24 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 4: this football team here in town, and they had a 25 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 4: dominant defense and they were holding teams to zero and 26 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 4: six and nine points every single week. 27 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 5: So tell me about what you're seeing. 28 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 4: Are there elements to this team, particularly this defense that 29 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 4: that kind of remind you of your Hawks conference in 30 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 4: Super Bowl championship teams? 31 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 3: Oh? There are, there are. There's a lot of great 32 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 3: things that this defense is doing, you know. I mean, 33 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 3: they got playmakers looking on every level, right whether you 34 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 3: look at the guys up front, you look at the 35 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 3: linebackers and and the dbs. But but I think it 36 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 3: starts with the guys up front. You know, Jaron reed 37 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 3: Leo from the you know, the guys on the on 38 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 3: the edge. I mean, you got two d tackles that 39 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 3: lead the team in set, you know what I mean, 40 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 3: Like that's unheard of, right, But those guys, I think 41 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 3: is the they're their motor of that defense right now. 42 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 3: They they're the oldest on the team, are on the defense, 43 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 3: and they're just leading these guys. Man, They're showing that 44 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 3: it starts up front, and then everybody else is just 45 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 3: playing off of them. But collectively, man, it's just fun 46 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 3: to watch because they're I mean, everyone's getting turnovers. Everyone 47 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 3: getting turnovers, whatever position. Everyone's finding ways to get their 48 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 3: hands on the ball and create more opportunities for the offense. 49 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 6: Uh. 50 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,679 Speaker 3: Really exciting to watch, really fun to watch. And I 51 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,119 Speaker 3: think the scheme too. I think coach McDonald has done 52 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 3: a great job. Obviously the defensive guru, and and you 53 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 3: know he'd had great defenses over the years, but he's 54 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 3: found the right guy to play the right position, and 55 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 3: he's putting them in position to execute. And those guys 56 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 3: all they got to do is just go out there 57 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 3: and play play StAst and execute the calls and think 58 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 3: great things are happening. 59 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 7: Well, let's drill down on that very point the scheme. 60 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 7: What are you seeing. Give us an example you say, okay, 61 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 7: he's putting guys in the opportunity to make plays. Give 62 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 7: us an example or to a play that that's top 63 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 7: of mind for you, where you say, oh, okay, whether 64 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 7: you did that or you didn't ten years ago, ten 65 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 7: twelve years ago. Give us an example of of what 66 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 7: you see that impresses you. Mike McDonald putting a player 67 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 7: in a position to make the play. 68 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 3: I mean, if you think about it, even just like 69 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 3: last week, E Man the dB right like, I mean, 70 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 3: they're using him in a way that that's unique to 71 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 3: his size and being in his skill set to the 72 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 3: point where you know, you see him blitting and getting 73 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 3: sacks right, or you look at McKnight and DeMarcus Lawrence. 74 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 3: I'd say, like, what was this two or three weeks ago? 75 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 3: These plays were identical. I was at the game and 76 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 3: I'm like, wait up, did the same thing just happened 77 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 3: just on the other side of the field, Like he 78 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 3: understood that that you know, McKnight is obviously a great blitter, 79 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 3: but he's putting them one on one with the running back. Okay, 80 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 3: he slipped the running back and then at the defensive end, 81 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 3: all you have to do is fall back. It's same 82 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 3: exact play both times. Fell back into uh he ran 83 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 3: like a little text game essentially with the with the 84 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 3: linebacker and boom, sax fum will touchdown, sax tumbell touch 85 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 3: down on both plates. But what made it special is 86 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 3: again m night being a pretty good blitter. And then 87 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 3: as a past versus, to be honest with you, you 88 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 3: hate well, I hate it, shoul I say, I can't 89 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 3: say those guys, but you hate having to run games 90 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 3: with linebacks because a lot of times they don't know 91 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 3: how to run those games. Clearly, in this situation, they 92 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 3: had trusting uh, you know, Arres m. Knight to do that, 93 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 3: and then Lawrence just coming off the edge picking it 94 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 3: up in house calling. 95 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 5: It Cliff favorill join us. I know you did. 96 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 4: You've been doing broadcasting in the preseason for this team, 97 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,679 Speaker 4: so you've gotten a chance to be around him, particularly 98 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,239 Speaker 4: in training camp. You know what impresses you the most 99 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 4: about Mike McDonald just in your interactions with him. 100 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 3: Well, one, the fact that I'm older than him is. 101 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 6: Ridiculous, us kind of crazy. 102 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 3: Makes me feel old. But he's a I mean, he's 103 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 3: he's awesome. I think the coolest thing about him is 104 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 3: how much for as respect he has for us. You know, 105 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 3: I'm gonna I don't know, they call his legends, so 106 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 3: I'm going to say legends. It sounds weird. 107 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 5: Oh you're Agen, I'll call you allegend. Everybody else agen too. 108 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. But the respect that he had for 109 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 3: what we've done right. He's a fan of the defense 110 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 3: and the way we played it, and those types of 111 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 3: things were to the point where he'll tell us, you know, 112 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 3: how much of a fan he is of us, right, 113 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 3: So just being around him, him him understanding defensive schemes, 114 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 3: I mean, his knowledge. He's just a that like the 115 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 3: things that he's able to retain and remember, you know 116 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 3: what I mean, it's crazy. So just just those little 117 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 3: bits and pieces of conversations that you have with and 118 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 3: it was like, oh man, this man is like he's 119 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 3: really like a teens. Like it's weird. It's weird to 120 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 3: just put it all in the words, but like he 121 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 3: just remembers everything. He understands every position. And you know 122 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 3: some coaches are you know, just dB coaches that that 123 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 3: are offensive, that are decordinators, you know what I'm saying. 124 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 3: But like he understands the scheme, he understands the defense. 125 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 3: He wants to put guys in the right position to 126 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 3: be able to execute these different things. He will create 127 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 3: plays for certain guys just because of their athleticism or 128 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 3: whatever they're good at. Like it's it's cool to watch overall. 129 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 7: Cliff avoril with us and Cliff, you just use the 130 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 7: word genius. We don't hear that word tossed around about 131 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 7: football players or coaches very often, right, like maybe a 132 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 7: Bill Walsh or what have you. But something in the 133 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 7: conversation or what you've seen causes you to use that word. 134 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 7: What is it that makes him a genius in your eyes? 135 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 7: Was Pete Carrol a genius? Or are you kind of 136 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 7: elevating his understanding and just kind of amplify your thoughts 137 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 7: when you use the word genius to describe Mike mcthonum. 138 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 3: Was Pink Carroll jenius? I think he was just in 139 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 3: a different way. When I say Mike McDonald's genius, I'm 140 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 3: staying back on conversations that I've had with him and 141 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 3: how he moves and the scene that he's putting together, 142 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,799 Speaker 3: like he's really like he really understands how to put 143 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 3: offenses in a buying right, and he knows how to 144 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 3: use the players that he has and puts them in 145 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 3: the right position to do that right. Because it's rare 146 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 3: where you look at you know the stats for the 147 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 3: guys on defense, where you know you got a few 148 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 3: dbs that have sacks, you have linebackers that have sacks, 149 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 3: and you have you know, your D line. Typically it's 150 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 3: just your D line that goes and gets sacked. Maybe 151 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 3: a lot back here or there that get a sacked, 152 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 3: but to be able to put these guys in positions 153 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 3: to execute and do a little bit of everything, and 154 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 3: finding the right players to do so, and putting the 155 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 3: scheme together that compliments these guys. I think is short 156 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 3: of of that, because most coaches like, my scheme is 157 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 3: what it is, and if you can't run it, we're like, 158 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 3: you got to go. He's more it seems like I'm 159 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 3: not obviously in the team, but it seems like it's like, Okay, 160 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 3: I have this guy, he's really good at this. I'm 161 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 3: gonna find a way to make sure he can execute 162 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 3: the plays that I have and highlight him because he's 163 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 3: great at blissing, because he's big to be able to 164 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 3: fill in, you know, the A gap, be gap, whatever 165 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 3: it may be. Like he's using those guys within the scheme. 166 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 3: He's thinking of those guys while he's coming up with 167 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 3: the different schemes. I guess it's the right way of 168 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 3: putting it. 169 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 4: Seahawks legend Cliff Averril want to emphasize legend here on 170 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 4: ninety three point three KJR and talking about the twenty 171 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 4: twenty five Seattle Seahawks. Let's flip over the flip over 172 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 4: to the offensive side. What was your take Cliff when 173 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 4: the Seahawks made the move to decide, hey, we're not 174 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 4: gonna pay Geno and we're gonna bring in Sam Donald. 175 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 4: And what has been your assessment thus far of Sam 176 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 4: Donald is the Seahawks? 177 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 3: Well, I'm pretty sure I was like everybody else whereas like, yo, 178 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 3: you're doing what you know, you just won ten games 179 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 3: with with with with Gino the year before, so you know, 180 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 3: why would you give up a for sure thing that 181 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 3: you already kind of had. Obviously they know and see 182 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 3: more than we know, right, But it was definitely one 183 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 3: of those question marks, like yo, what, like what's going 184 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 3: on here? But very impressed with Sam Donald, you know, 185 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 3: I mean, he's he this My first eye is remember 186 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 3: my for I laughed because I remember my first conversation 187 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 3: with Sam and it's like, you know, he's kind of 188 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 3: telling me like, oh yo, yo, what's up quick? And 189 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, you know who I am? You know 190 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 3: what I mean? But this his interaction is, you know, 191 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 3: can be a little little uh I'm gonna say different sometimes, 192 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 3: but super cool dude. And then you see him go 193 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 3: out there and his interaction with his players. He's getting 194 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 3: hype with the guys, you know, he's laughing, and he's 195 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 3: doing all these different things. To me, honestly, it's not 196 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 3: surprising that he's having the success because he not only 197 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 3: brought into the system, but he's gotten everybody else to 198 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 3: buy into him. Because I'm sure guys are listening, paying 199 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 3: attention to what the media was probably saying and different 200 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 3: things like that. But he won over those guys trusts, right, 201 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 3: he won those guys over where whether this is the interactions, 202 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 3: but also you know, practice and different things like that. 203 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 3: And all those guys are playing, they're playing lighted out 204 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 3: for him too. So it's really cool to watch to see. 205 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 7: So I want you to take us. Now it's been 206 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 7: a long time, or at least a few years since 207 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 7: you played. I want you to take us into the 208 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 7: world of an actual NFL player. And it's on a 209 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 7: Sunday or Monday night, and you defensive guys you're getting 210 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 7: together have met, whether it's a beer of cocktail, whatever 211 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 7: it is, barbecue and whatever, just the defensive guys and 212 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 7: you just played. The Rams lost the game. Sam Darnold 213 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 7: had four interceptions. Now you saw when Ernest Jones went 214 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 7: up to the media and he said, hey, this is 215 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 7: our quarterback if you know you got criticisms, f you want, 216 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 7: I want your reaction to what Ernest Jones said? And 217 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 7: then what is it like when the defensive guys alone 218 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 7: after a game like that where clearly the quarterback lost 219 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 7: the game. What are you guys saying in those conversations? 220 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,719 Speaker 3: A great defense, which I was fortunate enough to be 221 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 3: a part of, a great defense, I think does exactly 222 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 3: what Earnest did you Right, you ride for each other 223 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 3: like you're you're gonna get on stage. I'm gonna tell 224 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 3: you this. And also, honestly, because we've had moments like 225 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 3: that too when I played where might you know, rush 226 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 3: through a few interceptions or whatnot, And our mindset was always, yo, 227 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 3: it doesn't matter, like we got to do our job 228 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 3: and give them the ball back, like we got to 229 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 3: go cause a turnover. That was our mindset. Yes it sucks, 230 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 3: Yes we got to get back out there. Yes you 231 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 3: know all those things, definitely, but that control is the control, 232 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 3: and we're supposed to be the best defense, right, so 233 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 3: let's go get another opportunity to let's go get another 234 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 3: turnover to give them opportunity to go score that that's 235 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 3: our job, right, So even with drinks and whatnot. It 236 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 3: is like, yo, yeah, that sucks, but that's our guy. 237 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 3: Like he's also he's also gone out there and you 238 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:04,599 Speaker 3: know through four or five sets now too, you know 239 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 3: what I mean. So you can't just ride with somebody 240 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 3: when they're just killing it. You got to be able 241 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 3: to ride with them when they're down top two. And again, 242 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 3: your job is to get the quarterback the ball as 243 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 3: many times as possible if you want to be a 244 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 3: great defense in a great team. 245 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 5: That's awesome, great, Cliff, We really appreciate it. 246 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 3: Man. 247 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 4: We'll have you on once this team gets back and 248 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 4: it gets back in the playoffs where they belong. 249 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 3: All right, most definitely, I appreciate you got that. 250 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 4: You bet that's all right, Cliff Averrill, Seahawks legend talking 251 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 4: about this team which will certainly be in the playoffs 252 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,599 Speaker 4: right now at ten and three, and I asked the 253 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 4: question about Gino and Sam, and as he was answering, 254 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 4: I kind of I was thinking a little bit like 255 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,719 Speaker 4: what would be the difference in this team's record if 256 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 4: Gino Smith was the quarterback instead of Sam Darnold. And 257 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 4: I'm looking back at these games, I don't think Atlanta 258 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 4: goes differently. I don't think Minnesota goes differently. I don't 259 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 4: think Tennessee goes differently. He lost to the Rams, it 260 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 4: would have lost anyway, probably. I don't think Arizona goes differently. 261 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 4: I don't think Washington goes differently. I mean, those were 262 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 4: all blowouts. So the last six games probably would be 263 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 4: identical with Gino Smith or Sam Donald since they were 264 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 4: all blowouts, except the Ram game that you lost Houston. 265 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 5: Sam wasn't great. You won by eight in that game. 266 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 4: Jacksonville is the one I look at and say, Sam 267 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 4: was pretty special in that game through for two ninety 268 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,239 Speaker 4: five had about a one to twenty passer rating against Jacksonville. 269 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 5: That's one that maybe you could say Sam Donald won 270 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 5: for you. 271 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 4: New Orleans was a blood bath. San Francisco you lost. 272 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 4: And then Pittsburgh's the other one, thirty one seventeen. Maybe 273 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 4: Gino doesn't go into Pittsburgh and beats the Steelers. Although 274 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 4: when you look at the Sam's numbers in that he 275 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 4: had an eighty nine point eight passer rating, had two 276 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 4: interceptions in that game. 277 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 5: So you know it's funny. 278 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 4: Yet we all agree that they're better off with Sam, 279 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 4: and yet Sam really hasn't had to win any of 280 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 4: these games for the Seahawks. 281 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 7: Well, there's different ways to define win. To me, you 282 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 7: sound like a guy that had had an agenda where 283 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 7: you wanted to get then everything you looked at was 284 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 7: designed to fit the agenda, your your final outcome. 285 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 4: Well, but what's funny is is my whatever agenda that is, 286 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 4: it's kind of the antithesis of what I've been preaching 287 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 4: all year whatever. I know, But I mean, right in 288 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 4: that moment, is way better than Gina No. 289 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 7: Dick and and maybe maybe maybe just in that moment, 290 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 7: you're you know, look, you're you're hosting a sports radio show. 291 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 7: So so I'm not I'm not picking on you. I'm 292 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 7: saying that because you gotta you gotta inspire that. I 293 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 7: think that's a good question. I should be able to 294 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 7: defend that. I think there's a number of those games 295 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 7: like Arizona, where he had had to make a couple 296 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 7: of plays at the end, you know, those fade balls 297 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 7: up the right side then up the left side like 298 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 7: a lot. Hell, this game, this game just yesterday, that 299 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 7: could have been a lesser quarterback throws an interception in 300 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 7: the red zone, doesn't make the plays. Uh, that could 301 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 7: have on sideways A lot of times when you have 302 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 7: a quarterback. Sam Donald is number one in the NFL 303 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 7: in yards per attempt, number one in the NFL in 304 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 7: in completions over ten yards, completions over twenty yards. This 305 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 7: dude has thrown the knockout punch that you like. It's 306 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 7: almost like that that hypothesis that you just advance is 307 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 7: almost it's detracting from a guy that is so good 308 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 7: that in the passing game that you just bludgeon these 309 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 7: teams and then you just say say, well, anybody could 310 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 7: have done that, Drew Lock could have done that, you know, 311 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 7: what have you? And so we don't know. It's good 312 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 7: coffee and beer talk. The answer is, I don't know. 313 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 7: You don't know. It's not provable, it's not falsifiable. But 314 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 7: I do think the tenor the question and kind of 315 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 7: where you're angling is doing a disservice to I think 316 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 7: Sam Donald. My answer, My answer is I don't think 317 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 7: they'd have this record, okay, And I think that the 318 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 7: record be worse somewhere in the neighborhood of two to 319 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 7: four games worse. 320 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 5: Okay, whoa two to four games worse? Okay? All right? 321 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,359 Speaker 4: I did make the comic it that I was soundly 322 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 4: laughed at by both Jackson Feltz and Dave Softy. Mall 323 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 4: are like, I don't know, probably two months ago where 324 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 4: I said that I felt like this defense was so 325 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 4: good that you could probably win eight games with Drew 326 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 4: Lock as your starting quarterback, and I was soundly laughed at. 327 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 4: And I will stand here on this day, December eighth, 328 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 4: and a ten to three football team and say I 329 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 4: believe that this defense is so damn good that Drew 330 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 4: Lock could win eight games as a starting quarterback of 331 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:37,359 Speaker 4: this team. 332 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 7: And go eight to nine. Yes, yeah, I think Drew 333 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 7: Lock is a good I think he's a good backup. 334 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 7: I mean he's talented, he doesn't have the feel for 335 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 7: the game, but his his traits are starter level trades. Yes, 336 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 7: but you know, so where can we agree? We can 337 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 7: agree that this defense is elite. It's the best since 338 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 7: Week six in any important measure, it's the best defense 339 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 7: in the NFL. Fall following the Tampa Bay game, you say, well, 340 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 7: that's that's cherry picking. Yes, in a way, that was 341 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 7: the worst defensive game. They also didn't have four players. 342 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 7: Even why are even when you lost to Tampa bay 343 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 7: Nick even Worey had four plays to his career, yes, 344 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 7: in the first five, in the first five plays of 345 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 7: the forty nine er game, like everything that Mike McDonald 346 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 7: has wanted to morphine, you know, you know, he didn't 347 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 7: have those guys. So so it's the best defense in 348 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 7: the NFL, and the best defense in the NFL would 349 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 7: win a lot of games with a lot of average quarterbacks. 350 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 7: I'll agree with you there, but I think Sam Donald 351 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 7: has been particularly in the first eight weeks when his 352 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 7: average passer rating was one hundred and sixteen and he 353 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 7: was and a lot of those you know, hey, he 354 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 7: just knocks you out in those games. You know, it's like, 355 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 7: we don't even know what it would be like to 356 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 7: be in a close game because Donald just. 357 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 5: Made us out. Maybe he's costributing it to it being 358 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 5: a not close. 359 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 7: It was Pearl Harbor bombs away with Sam Darnold early 360 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 7: on he said, a hell of a season and particularly 361 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 7: the first half of the season. So yeah, I think 362 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 7: somewhere in the neighborhood of two to four games more 363 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 7: than you would have had with Gino. 364 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 4: Sounds good, You're gonna run. We'll talk to you tomorrow. 365 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 4: A three o'clock A right, all right, sounds good. Three 366 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 4: tomorrow Hugh Breed love milling, great stuff. Chuck pal is 367 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 4: gonna join us. We're gonna take a segment to talk 368 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 4: a little baseball because there's. 369 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 5: Some heat going on in the rumor world. And also 370 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 5: the Mariners. 371 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 4: Made a trade over the off season or the over 372 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 4: the weekend rather, and we'll see if Chuck thinks it 373 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 4: was a good trade or not. 374 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 5: Next on ninety three point three KJRFL, this is. 375 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: Duke of Duke Seafood, and this hour is brought to 376 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: you by Duke Seafood. Why don't you make it at 377 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: Duke's night tonight. Reserve your table today at Dukeseafood dot com. 378 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: Now back to soft End Dick on Sports Radio ninety 379 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: three point three kJ RKFM. 380 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 4: I'm going to hear from our man, Chuck Pwell, talking 381 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 4: a little baseball in just a moment. The trade that 382 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 4: came down over the weekend, Harry Ford being sent to 383 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 4: the Washington Nationals for Jose Farrer, a reliever with a 384 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 4: four point three to six career earned run average. 385 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 5: I'll tell you my initial reaction was Wow, I thought. 386 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 4: We'd be able to get more than a reliever for 387 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 4: Jose Ferrer. He's got all the analytics. I mean, the 388 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 4: guy is ninety nine percentile on ground ball rate ninety 389 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 4: fifth and walk rate ninety third and barrel rate ninety 390 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 4: fourth and veloci. So what I want to ask Chuck 391 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 4: is how the hell does this guy have a career 392 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 4: four and a half? He alay, he is basically elite 393 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 4: in all these categories, So we'll talk to him about that. 394 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 4: And I'm seeing some rumblings from the winter meetings that 395 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 4: the Dodgers and the Tigers are tied up in a 396 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 4: potential trade for Trek's schoobl So that is something to 397 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 4: watch over the winter meetings. And my thought would be, well, 398 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 4: if the Dodgers and Tigers are in talks for Trek Scooble, 399 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 4: can't be the can't the Mariners and the Tigers be 400 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 4: in talks for Terrek school now? The only difference being 401 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 4: is that the Dodgers would be able to sign Trek 402 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 4: Scoobel immediately upon trading for Trek Schouble, which would not 403 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 4: happen if he came to the Mariners because Trek Scuobele 404 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 4: is going to be making upwards to four or five 405 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 4: hundred million dollars, I would think, but five point thirty 406 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 4: three on ninety three point three kJ RFM, we hear. 407 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 5: Him from Chuck yet Jackson or we go we good 408 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 5: to go? 409 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 4: All right, Chuck's gonna come on here and talk a 410 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 4: little baseball before I changed the subject here and we 411 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 4: got our man from the Morning Show and new I 412 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 4: guess I should say old and new champion of Factor 413 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 4: Fiction along with Bucky and along with Ashley. Congratulations, Chuck, 414 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 4: you got it done, Man, well done. 415 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 6: The three people that gamble the least and all of 416 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 6: the Washington I'll pulled off a Factor Fiction victory. 417 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 4: Well, I think we need I mean, we need some 418 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 4: steaks next year, because I got to be perfectly honest 419 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 4: with you, Jo, I am the one person on the 420 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 4: show that takes it seriously. On our show, I have 421 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 4: one of my partners actually picked the Minnesota Golden Gophers 422 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,239 Speaker 4: this year just because Dan Wilson went there. Damn run 423 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 4: I did so. I mean, it's it's hard. I mean, 424 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 4: I can only do what I can do, and I 425 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 4: think we need a way to, uh, you know, kind 426 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 4: of give a little more impetus to everybody on the 427 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 4: Afternoon show for for taking their pic seriously. 428 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 5: But we'll see. 429 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,199 Speaker 4: So maybe some maybe some steaks can we can we 430 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 4: invest in some steaks for next year between the morning show. 431 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 3: And I don't Show. 432 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 6: I don't know where you've been. Furnessa is going to 433 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 6: wash my car every week for the rest of the 434 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 6: year because. 435 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 5: Of this beautiful, beautiful, well, we didn't have you. 436 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 6: Just to bring in bagels for the entire station for 437 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 6: the next six months, so we worked out some stakes. 438 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 4: I want to give you a tip of the cap, 439 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 4: but the real reason we had you on is obviously 440 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 4: this trade, which I got to admit, surprised me in 441 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 4: the sense not to surprise me that Harry Ford got traded. 442 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 4: It surprised me that Harry Ford got traded to Washington 443 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 4: for a lever that's got a four point three to 444 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 4: six career era. 445 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 5: So your first thoughts when you when you saw the trade. 446 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 6: I was underwhelmed. I was I'm like you, I thought 447 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 6: for sure Harry was going to get traded. I mean, 448 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,479 Speaker 6: the path to playing time for a guy that is 449 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 6: dedicated committed to catching, staying at the catcher position, with 450 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 6: cal Rawley in your way, it just seemed like right 451 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 6: now would have been a great time to trade him. 452 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 6: But I felt that way sort of at the last 453 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 6: couple of trading deadlines. I mean, Cal's been in his 454 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 6: path for a while now and they haven't made the move. 455 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,719 Speaker 6: So I expected top one hundred prospects, with speed and 456 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 6: the on base monster that he's been at the minor 457 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 6: league level and having performed on a big stage like 458 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 6: the World Baseball Classic. I thought that Terry Ford would 459 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 6: fetch more in a trade than what they got back 460 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 6: a left handed reliever. But maybe I overvalued him. I 461 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 6: think that this isn't the first time that they've tested 462 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 6: the market to see what his trade value was, and 463 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 6: if this is all they came up with, maybe that's 464 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 6: all that he is worth. And I say that, but 465 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 6: Ferrera is a talented, controllable left hander who they could 466 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 6: have for years. Certainly, the numbers suggest that he is 467 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 6: better than his four point four e er. I mean, yeah, 468 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 6: met line number. 469 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 4: The percentiles, the ground ball rates, the walk rates, the 470 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 4: barrel rates of a lot, I mean they're all elite. Like, 471 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 4: I'm thinking, how's this guy got a four point. 472 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, and then the fastball around one hundred miles per hour, 473 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 6: But it does read a lot like Gregory Santos, the 474 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 6: description that came with him when the Mariners were so 475 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 6: excited about landing Gregory Santos. It's sort of the same thing, 476 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 6: maybe a little bit better control. But Santos had one 477 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 6: hundred mile per hour fastball, but he didn't strike guys out. 478 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 6: And that goes all the way back to his minor 479 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,959 Speaker 6: league career, and he didn't do it here either, whenever 480 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 6: he was available. So I'm a little worried about forrere 481 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 6: averaging less than a strikeout per inning through not just 482 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 6: his major league career, but for most of his minor leagues. 483 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 6: How does somebody that throws that is that nasty not 484 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 6: strike out more hitters coming out of the bullpen. 485 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 3: But I know that they. 486 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 6: Were looking for a bullpen piece, specifically a left hander. 487 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 6: They loved their controllable assets. I think they got a 488 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 6: good reliever. I just thought, as much as we've talked 489 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 6: about ha Ford, I just thought that maybe he would 490 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 6: be involved in a package that brought a little sexier 491 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 6: of a name. 492 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 5: Well, let's move on to the next potential trade. 493 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 4: Then next potential trade or free agent signing this offseason. 494 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 4: Will we see that and will we see an impact 495 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 4: bat that did not play in Seattle last year. I 496 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 4: know hore Plango's still out there, but will we see 497 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 4: an impact bat either signed or traded for, not named 498 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 4: Jorge Polanco on this team next year. 499 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 6: I'm not going to be surprised by that. A couple 500 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 6: of things. I think that if the Polanco thing doesn't happen, 501 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 6: then maybe Plan B is Gino, or maybe Gino's just 502 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 6: not in the plans at all, and then that frees 503 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 6: up some money. I keep coming back to the Japanese 504 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 6: slugger Munataka Murakami. I know that organization would love to 505 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 6: have one of these Japanese phenoms on the flip side. 506 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,479 Speaker 6: He is a monster strikeout guy, which they've tried to 507 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 6: move away from here in recent years. But he's also 508 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 6: somebody with fifty sixty home run potential. And I don't 509 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,959 Speaker 6: know about you, but these Japanese superstars, the ones that 510 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 6: have been labeled superstars that come over, they're pretty good. 511 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 6: You know, they don't fail, and so I think if 512 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 6: we don't get Polanco, maybe that's a guy that they 513 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 6: try to, you know, go aggressively at, and then the 514 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 6: trade aspect probably makes more sense because they do have 515 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 6: prospects to move. They've got like six middle infielders that 516 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 6: are ranked in the top one fifty. Only a couple 517 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 6: of them are going to end up playing right for 518 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 6: the for the big league club, and so maybe now 519 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 6: is the off season to maybe strike a deal for 520 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 6: an asset that, you know, you can kind of hand 521 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 6: pick the salary out there, somebody that's you know, two 522 00:26:54,920 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 6: three years away from from free agency, that maybe that 523 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 6: organization doesn't feel like it's going to be winning anytime soon, 524 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 6: and then you swoop in and you grab a really 525 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 6: star player. 526 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 3: CJ. 527 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 6: Abrams is a good example from the Washington Nationals. You know, 528 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 6: apparently it's falling out favor in Washington. Can play shortstop 529 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 6: per second, it's got some pop, certainly can steal bases, 530 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 6: and the Nationals don't look like they're going to be 531 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 6: winning in the next couple of years. And so maybe 532 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 6: that's a guy that the Mariners are interested in because 533 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 6: you can get a more proven commodity to play second 534 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 6: base for you, and you can move maybe a young 535 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 6: player or two in order to get that guy. 536 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 4: Chuck always a pleasure, my friend, and congratulations. Pass my 537 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 4: congrats along to Bucky and Ashley as well. 538 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 3: Okay, I will do that. 539 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 6: You guys are man. 540 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 3: It's quite a war every. 541 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 6: Year to try to beat the Afternoon Show. So we 542 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 6: got it done. 543 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 4: Yes, you did, Thanks man, talk to you next time, 544 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 4: all right, man, Thanks you bet Chuck Powell our morning 545 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 4: show franchise. 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What's that? 556 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 3: Dick? 557 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 4: At halftime yesterday Seahawks win, Mike McDonald correctly predicted in 558 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 4: the locker room that Rashid Shaheed would return the second 559 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 4: half kickoff for a touchdown. After he did, and after 560 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 4: the game, both McDonald and Shaheed talked about his premonition. 561 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 5: We heard Mike might have predicted your kid return a 562 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 5: half fun he did call it? 563 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 3: He did, Yeah, I'll give him credit for that. 564 00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 7: Was something about the looker that you guys had in 565 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 7: fact just this. 566 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 3: Week or something. How did you know or how did 567 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 3: you know anythink that's what was coming. Yeah, we just 568 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 3: knew that we were gonna have an opportunity coming out 569 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 3: of halftime based off the film that we watched. We 570 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 3: knew that we were gonna have opportunity to score. And 571 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 3: that's what we did. 572 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 7: We had perfect calls, and you know, that's a testament 573 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 7: to our coaches and how they get us prepared. 574 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 5: A few minutes later, you make sure you're. 575 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 3: Called touched down halftime? Maybe was it just a hut shirt? 576 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 8: Did you have a feeling of something I break there? 577 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 4: I don't know something about you know, it's just called 578 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 4: Kobe's pick last year too. Here, that's kind of how 579 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 4: making a fine for that for for bragging. It's gonna 580 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 4: be fun when this city really embraces Mike McDonald. 581 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 5: I don't think we have yet. 582 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 8: I think he needs to come him a bit, mature 583 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 8: into the job, like and then grow up, not grow up. 584 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 5: That's a different age. 585 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 8: I think, like I don't think we fully appreciated Pete 586 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 8: Carroll until honestly, they kind of went through that stretch 587 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 8: of sixteen through nineteen, we were like, well. 588 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 5: We appreciated Carol when you want us so sooner. 589 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 8: But like I mean, like fully, like obviously it's like, okay, 590 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 8: we have one of the best coaches in football right 591 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 8: then once we have the downstretch and kind of not 592 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 8: necessarily see post Carol life, but start to see like wow, 593 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 8: like like yeah, when when he has the guys and 594 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 8: he has his team that he wants, then they are flying. 595 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 4: Because I still see Mike McDonald's a defensive genius. I 596 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 4: don't look at him on the sidelines ago, my coach 597 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 4: is one of the best head coaches in the NFL. 598 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 4: And I think we are going to get to the 599 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 4: point where all Seahawk fans every time they see Mike 600 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 4: McDonald on the sideline, we will feel like we did 601 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 4: with Pete Carroll ten year. 602 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 5: Jill, where we said my coach is better than your 603 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 5: coach that I'm playing against right now. Yeah, And I 604 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 5: think we will say that, and that takes time. It 605 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 5: takes time. 606 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 8: I think it's one of those things where when Mike 607 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 8: McDonald gets us to an NFC championship or two gets 608 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 8: us to a Super Bowl, then that'll establish that. But 609 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 8: that will come with time. Maybe it's this year, but 610 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 8: that'll come with time. 611 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 5: Hey Jackson, did you hear this? 612 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 4: After winning the Big Ten Championship, Indiana quarterback Fernando Mendoza 613 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 4: did his on field interview with Jenny Taft of Fox 614 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 4: Sports and look directly into the camera as he answered 615 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 4: these questions. 616 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 7: Indiana the Big Ten Champs? 617 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 5: How does that sound? It sounds so beautiful. I want 618 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 5: to give all the glory to God. We're never supposed 619 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 5: to be in the decision. 620 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 8: Before the glory God, the great coaches. 621 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 5: Great teammates, everybody have around us. 622 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 2: We were able to pull this off. 623 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 5: Whoever thought the. 624 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 2: Whos would be here? 625 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 5: But now the Hoosas are flipping champs. 626 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 3: Let's go. 627 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 6: You guys call yourself a bunch of misfits who found. 628 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 5: The right home at Indiana. Why was this the right 629 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 5: place for this group? 630 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 4: Is the right place for processes Orange and we're going 631 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 4: day by day. 632 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 2: Is off at the line, the defense, the coaches, special teams, 633 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 2: we're all process Oranges to one goal. 634 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 5: That's our thing is we're brothers. 635 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 2: We can drag teams to the defense because. 636 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 5: We know that we're gonna stick together and we're the 637 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 5: strongest glue ever. Jackson, I'm gonna ask you something. 638 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:56,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're the general manager of a team that has 639 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 4: a top five pick in the NFL. 640 00:31:58,320 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 3: Do yeah? I see where you're going with this. 641 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 5: Are you more. 642 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 4: Likely to draft Fernando Mendoza based upon that SoundBite or 643 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 4: are you less likely to draft him? 644 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 5: Or is there no change? 645 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 8: A million percent more likely? And it also makes me 646 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 8: a million percent more wanting to see him win the 647 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 8: Heisman Trophy. I want that dude leading my locker room. 648 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 8: I want that dude in every speech possible. Like and 649 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 8: it's it's because it's hard me magical radio to think 650 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 8: about this, but he's obviously all that emotion and he 651 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 8: is staring into America Assault. It's like you think about 652 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 8: for an NFL coach, right, Like, I don't know who's 653 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 8: the coach of the Giants right now, the Jet I 654 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 8: don't know who the Jets of coach. Regardless, you're watching 655 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 8: that and you think about, oh wow, we are a 656 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 8: craft organization. We need somebody who can come in and 657 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 8: be a leader, right That's a dude who can like 658 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 8: with that, that's gonna rally your team. 659 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 4: I think there I agree with you. I agree with 660 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 4: your premise. I do think there was a little. 661 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 5: It was a little Russell Wilson asked for me. Really 662 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 5: it was a little. I could not disagree with that, 663 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 5: okay anymore. 664 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 4: And I mean I think there's a level of passion 665 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 4: and then there's whatever that was with the squeaky voice 666 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 4: and the like it was. 667 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 5: It was just a little much for me. 668 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 8: Russell Wilson is inauthentic to the core. He is fake 669 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 8: asphony all those right. 670 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 4: You don't think the second part of that sounded cast 671 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 4: scripted like that is that's just pure emotion, Like that's 672 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 4: not scripted. That's a dude who is just out pouring out. 673 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 4: When Russell pours out his emotion, he's pouring out his 674 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 4: emotion that's filtered through the PR department in his head. 675 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 4: Fernando Mendoza, that is pure, just everything in his soul. 676 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 4: I mean, it'd be interesting because that's gonna be a 677 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 4: question that'll be that'll be asked of him, and I 678 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 4: think people will ask general managers that question because I 679 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 4: was truly a unique response, No question about it. 680 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 5: Hey Jackson, do you hear this? 681 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 4: Paul Finebaum joined Matt Berry's podcast yesterday and said that 682 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 4: Notre Dame fans are in contention for the worst fans 683 00:33:59,080 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 4: in America. 684 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 3: I just shut up already. 685 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 9: Notre Dame fans now in contention for the worst fan 686 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 9: base in America. I know that's always been the case, 687 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 9: but I mean, you haven't done anything this year. 688 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:10,439 Speaker 3: You've got a really good team. 689 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 9: You played two very meaningful games at the beginning. 690 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 3: Of this year, went at home, one of the road. 691 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 9: You lost both. What's your best win, Southern cal whatever. 692 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 9: You're afraid to play in a conference because you want 693 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 9: to take the money and run. 694 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 3: That's your fault. 695 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 9: If you're sitting at twelve thirty today on the outside, 696 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 9: that's your problem. 697 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,720 Speaker 3: It's not ours. 698 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 4: My whole nineteen eighties hatred of Notre Dame just bubbled into. 699 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 5: A frenzy this weekend. 700 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 6: It's good. 701 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 4: Not only did they miss the playoffs, rightfully so in 702 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 4: my opinion and in the opinion of most, they also 703 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 4: decided to bow out of any Bowl invitation childish, which 704 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 4: was just the most perfect entitled Notre Dame response possible. 705 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,800 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, it's what happens when you're picking kids 706 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 8: in a school yard pick for kickball, and that last 707 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 8: kid doesn't get picked. So what he decides to do 708 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 8: is take out a pair of scissors and poke a 709 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:18,280 Speaker 8: hole in the kickball. 710 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 5: That's what I mean. Like, that's what Notre Dame did. 711 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 8: Like I mean, obviously different example, but still like they 712 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 8: took the ball and they went home. 713 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 4: Well, it's almost a child I have it. You know, 714 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 4: I've got a different school yard analogy. It's the kid 715 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 4: at school that thinks he's better than everyone else, true, 716 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 4: and he lets everybody know he's better than everybody else 717 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 4: and then can't figure out why he's the only guy 718 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:49,240 Speaker 4: without a date for prompt It's because you're a d bag, 719 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 4: Notre Dame. That's why much better five point 720 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,399 Speaker 5: Fifty six on ninety three point three kge eraf