WEBVTT - Let's Garden with Scott Beuerlein 8/8/2026 Hour 3

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<v Speaker 1>And welcome back for the final hour of today's show.

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<v Speaker 1>He is floating by gentlemen. I'm here with John Butcher

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<v Speaker 1>from Madison treecair and Landscape h Scot and my boss

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Foltz from the Cincinni Zoo and Botanical Gardens. And

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<v Speaker 1>now we are joined by Charlie Frank from the Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 1>Reds Community Fund.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, Scott, John, Steve, how are we doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Guys? Great? Great, good to have you here. Uh, you

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<v Speaker 1>know the Reds Fund. First of all, you guys do

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<v Speaker 1>great work. We'll get to that in a minute, but

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go back and find out, like how

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<v Speaker 1>it started, how long ago? Is it unique among the

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<v Speaker 1>Major League Baseball teams to have a fund like this?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, back in the early part of the century,

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<v Speaker 2>just about every team and all the four major North

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<v Speaker 2>American sports were rebuilding their arenas, and the vast majority

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<v Speaker 2>of those projects were publicly funded. So that's a time

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<v Speaker 2>where most of the teams went from maybe just having

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<v Speaker 2>a small community relations arm to having a foundation. Just

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<v Speaker 2>about every team and pro sports now does have some

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<v Speaker 2>public five oh one C three effort. And you know

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<v Speaker 2>what really jumped ours to light speed with the Reds.

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<v Speaker 2>We started in two thousand and one, and when the

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<v Speaker 2>Castellini ownership group came in in two thousand and six,

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<v Speaker 2>they really supercharged it.

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<v Speaker 1>They believe in.

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<v Speaker 2>Projects like the one we're going to be talking about

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<v Speaker 2>that have a connection to baseball and softball, but a

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<v Speaker 2>much broader community focus. And I'll tell you what they've

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<v Speaker 2>They've done everything they've promised out in the community they

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<v Speaker 2>said they would do. I mean, we reads built our

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<v Speaker 2>youth academy and the Roselawn neighborhood back in twenty fourteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't believe it's been open twelve years now. But so

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<v Speaker 2>many field renovation projects, but now seventeen of these community

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<v Speaker 2>makeovers and these are the jewels.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're so cool and that commitment from the top

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<v Speaker 1>is so foundational, so important, and the Castelinie, as you said,

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<v Speaker 1>have been so committed to this and they really beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thanks Scott, they really have. I mean a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of folks don't know. They spent ten years as limited

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<v Speaker 2>partners with the Saint Louis Cardinals before they had the

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity to purchase the Reds, and before that they were

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<v Speaker 2>involved with the Texas Rangers when they were owned by

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<v Speaker 2>George W. Bush, and they were involved with the Baltimore Oriols,

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<v Speaker 2>so they really had an idea of what this was about,

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<v Speaker 2>not just in terms of baseball, but what it means

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<v Speaker 2>to the community. And you know, the Castellini family and

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<v Speaker 2>the Williams family and our shareholders that make up our

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<v Speaker 2>ownership team, they are locally focused and they really see

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<v Speaker 2>the importance of what the Reds can do, what that

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<v Speaker 2>brand means to this not market, but to this region.

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<v Speaker 2>It can really help convene partners, it can help shine

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<v Speaker 2>a light on good work, and they've been all about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been with the team. This is my twenty third year,

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<v Speaker 2>so I was there a couple of years before they arrived,

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<v Speaker 2>and I can tell you that they really have backed

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<v Speaker 2>up their promises when they arrived. They have opened up

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<v Speaker 2>every door in the community in a way that I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think most fans could even understand and appreciate it. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll understand, certainly, but it may not appreciate fully.

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<v Speaker 1>What is some of the other funding that supports the

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<v Speaker 1>community fund?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, we are budget's about three million a

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<v Speaker 2>year and about a third of that comes from you know,

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<v Speaker 2>ballpark revenue. We have our fifth fifty Raffle.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never won it.

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<v Speaker 2>I know people that have won it multiple times. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>try to get some notes from them. It's promise, it's

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<v Speaker 2>all on the up and up. It's all digital and legal.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it So that's a big one for us,

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<v Speaker 2>as it is for most teams around the league. It's

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<v Speaker 2>all governed by by state laws, so some teams.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>But we we also are like any you know, five

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<v Speaker 2>oh one c three. We're out there, you know, pounding

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<v Speaker 2>the pavement, knocking on doors, building relationships, finding people that

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<v Speaker 2>that have that Reds connection, but also really believe in

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<v Speaker 2>the work that we're doing. We have about a half

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<v Speaker 2>a dozen major events every year, from the opening day

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<v Speaker 2>block party to the Red Legs Run, to our our

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<v Speaker 2>recent telethon with you know, in partnership with panc Bank,

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<v Speaker 2>and we've got our Marty Brunheman Golf event coming up

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<v Speaker 2>in September, which is a big annual fundraiser. Of course Redsfest,

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<v Speaker 2>which includes a poker tournament. So we have a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of traditional foundation fundraising, but we also you mentioned top down, Scott.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we get incredible support from our ownership, from

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<v Speaker 2>our players, every single Reds player is either donating to

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<v Speaker 2>the fund this year or has pledged money based on

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<v Speaker 2>a statistical category like one hundred dollars for every save

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<v Speaker 2>or strikeout, how many starts they get, Yeah, something like that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean TJ. Friedel gives us money for every bunt hit,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, stuff like that, some cool stuff. So our

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<v Speaker 2>players are really engaged. It really is top down support.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, before the horticulture aspect came in, tell me

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<v Speaker 1>about what would a typical community Reds Fund project look like.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, we launched what we called the home

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<v Speaker 2>Field Makeover, you know, sort of similar to the TV

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<v Speaker 2>show at the time, and we were renovating ball fields

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<v Speaker 2>and when P and G came to us to say, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>let's you know, we do a big annual volunteer effort

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<v Speaker 2>with our marketing teams from all over the city, you know, Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 2>Northern Kentucky. In twenty ten, we started in Winton Hills

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<v Speaker 2>and we had just built Brandon Phillips Field down behind

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<v Speaker 2>the old Cape High School which is now the Jacob Center.

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<v Speaker 2>It's part of CPS's what Steve sixty seven Green Spaces

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<v Speaker 2>that they control here and operate and then we found

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<v Speaker 2>the next year that hey, you know, going indoor and outdoor.

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<v Speaker 2>We went to North College Hill in twenty eleven and

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<v Speaker 2>realized that doing the indoor work was really important too,

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<v Speaker 2>because if you're coordinating several hundred volunteers, it's not necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>a possibility to have a rain.

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<v Speaker 1>Date, right.

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<v Speaker 2>So and the more people that we were able to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to mobilize, the more work we could do.

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<v Speaker 2>In North College Hill that you're we were building a

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<v Speaker 2>new baseball field on a site that had been an

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<v Speaker 2>elementary school that had just been demolished, and then the

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<v Speaker 2>school superintendent said, hey, you know there's another vacant elementary school.

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<v Speaker 2>We were not going to knock that one down. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>our goal is to turn this one into a community center.

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<v Speaker 2>And we worked with P and G and deployed about

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<v Speaker 2>another one hundred volunteers and we painted and we mulched,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, the police department moved in there, and

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<v Speaker 2>we thought, wow, those things could be pretty cool. We

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<v Speaker 2>went to Shivat in twenty twelve and which was a

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<v Speaker 2>great project, but then finally went inside city limits in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty thirteen, and that's when Steve and Mark Fisher and

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<v Speaker 2>Thane Maynard and the team from the zoo.

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<v Speaker 1>Zoo breaths.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>They were like, hey, you're in our backyard. We were

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<v Speaker 2>working at Gabriel's Place over on Running Road and at

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<v Speaker 2>the Hirsch Recreation Center, and that's when we were able

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<v Speaker 2>to connect with children's and with the zoo and Potanical

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<v Speaker 2>Garden because again we were nearby.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Fisher telling me afterwards, I'm like, man, I sure

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<v Speaker 2>hope this isn't a one and done. He goes, we're

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<v Speaker 2>the Cincinnati Zoo, Yeah, or not the Avondale's who don't worry.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll you know, we'll stick around. And boy have they

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<v Speaker 2>stuck around, so, you know, to answer your question, Scott

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<v Speaker 2>started with ball fields. We weren't, you know, we weren't

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<v Speaker 2>creative enough, smart enough. I wasn't to kind of see

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<v Speaker 2>this thing in three D. But boy, Mark and Steve

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<v Speaker 2>and the Zoo were able to see it, and the

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<v Speaker 2>way they brought Gabriel's Place to life changed this project

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<v Speaker 2>and really changed the Community Fund forever.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let's talk about that when we come back. We

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<v Speaker 1>need to take a break. So Charlie Frank with us

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<v Speaker 1>from the Reds Community Fund, Steve and John, we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>back in just a couple of minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back. Let's garden with Scott Berlin. I'm Scott. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>here with Jim and John No, John and Steve and

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie Frank, the executive director of the Reds Community Fund,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're talking about the community makeovers that you've done

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<v Speaker 1>for seventeen years. Yeahen, wow, And and you just had

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<v Speaker 1>what was it two weeks ago? Three weeks ago, a

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<v Speaker 1>really amazing project and Steve was very instrumental in helping

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<v Speaker 1>you put together the horticultural aspect of that. And I

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<v Speaker 1>want to turn you guys loose to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, so it was just two weeks ago, Thursday,

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<v Speaker 2>July twenty third, we were in Winton Hills wrapping up

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<v Speaker 2>what really is about it. It's a year long project

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<v Speaker 2>to identify the next neighborhood project, to get to know

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<v Speaker 2>the neighborhood leaders, which takes time. I mean that doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>you know, can't just walk in and get to know

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<v Speaker 2>a neighborhood in one sitting, and and then to come

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<v Speaker 2>up with the scope of work and the budget. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's really kind of a very precise exercise but

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<v Speaker 2>when you have partners like the Zoo and Botanical Garden,

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<v Speaker 2>p and G Children's, Duke Energy, Kroger Ge, it's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's amazing the talent and you know, this iconic roster

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<v Speaker 2>of Greater Cincinnati, you know, community leaders that you have

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<v Speaker 2>at the table. It's really exciting to see, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>what can get done. And we got to keep learning

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<v Speaker 2>the neighborhood. It's not like you just all right, well

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<v Speaker 2>here's what we do. And you know, you can't just

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<v Speaker 2>walk into Winon Hills and say well, we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>work in your school and we're going to build this

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<v Speaker 2>behind your community center. And you got to figure out

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<v Speaker 2>where the need is, what the one is, what the

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<v Speaker 2>kids want, what the leadership at the schools I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's to me the most rewarding piece of it.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you talk about transformational change, that's a big word,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and who's the side of something is transformational?

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<v Speaker 2>But you know what Steve and his horticulture team are

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<v Speaker 2>able to do with these projects. And this year, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Steve did something that hasn't been done anywhere locally, nationally, anywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>He literally brought in over one hundred trees and a

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<v Speaker 2>vision for this Tree School that he's got to describe

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<v Speaker 2>because to see the before and after this thing, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's indescribable what it means, not only what it will

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<v Speaker 2>mean for the kids. And the staff of the school

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<v Speaker 2>was working with him to kind of share their thoughts

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<v Speaker 2>and vision and because once you build it, you've got

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<v Speaker 2>to maintain it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's extraordinary. And what I love about what Steve

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<v Speaker 2>and his team have done, starting with the first urban

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<v Speaker 2>learning garden that they created in a basically an unused

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<v Speaker 2>acre of land behind Rockdale Academy, not even a half

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<v Speaker 2>a mile from the Zoo, they you know, you've not

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<v Speaker 2>only created something that's extraordinary for education, you've created something

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<v Speaker 2>for the neighborhood that is literally a jewel that's raising

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<v Speaker 2>property values because of the beauty and the thoughtfulness behind

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<v Speaker 2>it and the effort that the Zoo continues to put

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<v Speaker 2>into it to maintain it.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Steve, when they've decided on a location and they

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<v Speaker 1>come to you and say, come look at the site

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, before we get into the Tree School,

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<v Speaker 1>which I really want to do. What's the process your

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<v Speaker 1>process for looking at the site and imagining what is

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<v Speaker 1>possible there.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, it's interesting, we didn't come to the site.

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<v Speaker 4>The site came to us Obiliyah on the Wintin Hills

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<v Speaker 4>Community Council. We actually met with him two years ago

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<v Speaker 4>and he asked us for our opinion on something and

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<v Speaker 4>he had a vision of what he wanted to do

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<v Speaker 4>in the wind Hills community. And you know, that's what's

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<v Speaker 4>hearted all of it. And so it's funny the people say,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, how do you pick these It's like sometimes

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<v Speaker 4>they pick us and and if they're ready, and if

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<v Speaker 4>they're you know, if they're motivated, and you know that

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<v Speaker 4>good things can happen. And so when we did this

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<v Speaker 4>tree school at Winton Hills. You know, of course also

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<v Speaker 4>in st public schools, they have a lot of grass,

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<v Speaker 4>not a lot of trees. And especially in these urban communities,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, planting trees with all the asthma and all

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<v Speaker 4>the problems that people have with pollution and particulate matter,

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<v Speaker 4>planting trees is one of the easiest things to do

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<v Speaker 4>for the health and wellness of a community. And one

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<v Speaker 4>of the things that you know, we wanted to do

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<v Speaker 4>is do something unique, not just plant trees. We wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to make one of those typical what we call unique

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<v Speaker 4>botanical experiences, and so we selected what we call tree school.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, sometimes you have outdoor classrooms with a you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, a classroom type setting with trees around. We're like, well,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, we'll do a tree school. So we did

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<v Speaker 4>like twelve outdoor rooms for the kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Which follow a path.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, follow a path there's and it's interesting because that

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<v Speaker 4>school yard connects the community from one side to the other.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, so you've got the community folks, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>they're they're walking through this what was a full sun

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<v Speaker 4>just all you had to do is all they do

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<v Speaker 4>is mow it. No production, no productivity, no one visited.

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<v Speaker 4>And now they've got immediate shade. They've got you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Spring Grove Cemetery helped us with these tree stumps where

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<v Speaker 4>the kids can sit and learn, and put in some

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<v Speaker 4>nice boulders in there for seating.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, as you walk through the site, you

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<v Speaker 4>run into the pawpar room or or the elm room,

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<v Speaker 4>or run into the sugar maple room. So these rooms

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<v Speaker 4>are the trees that are surrounding each room and that

0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:10.040
<v Speaker 4>way the kids, you know K through six, they'll be

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<v Speaker 4>able to they'll know what a sugar maple is, explains

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<v Speaker 4>what the tree is signage. So it's educational. It's the

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<v Speaker 4>Some of the teachers said, well, you know, I teach

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<v Speaker 4>Pap Paul, and I teach you know, I teach about hickory.

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<v Speaker 4>So we got some hickory's in. And so a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of this is inspired by the teachers, the principal, the

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<v Speaker 4>community leaders. It's not something that we do. It's the

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<v Speaker 4>site dictates and the people dictate the interesting things that

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<v Speaker 4>we can do. But this is truly a unique thing,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think we've got some more ideas coming next year.

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<v Speaker 1>Tantalizing. You know, it's such a cool thing when you

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<v Speaker 1>go to these things and you know it's all built

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<v Speaker 1>around this single day. Of course, a lot of preparation

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<v Speaker 1>goes into it ahead of time, a lot of preparation,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's all focused on this one day. And how

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<v Speaker 1>many volunteers show.

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<v Speaker 2>Up, well, typically, you know, around four to five hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>This year there was another one hundred that came through

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<v Speaker 2>a partnership with Cincinnati Metropolitan Housing Authority, which was one

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<v Speaker 2>of the really unique wrinkles. To me, the I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>all of it's great work. What's happening at the Community Center,

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<v Speaker 2>which is going to be dedicated at ten am this

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<v Speaker 2>morning on winn Sd Avenue. All the changes inside and

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<v Speaker 2>out at Winton Hills Academy, the new public entry to

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<v Speaker 2>their health center, the murals, the new playground outside the cafeteria,

0:18:41.200 --> 0:18:43.520
<v Speaker 2>all the beautiful work that was done at the Witten

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<v Speaker 2>Hills Recreation Center. But it's hard not to think of

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<v Speaker 2>the Tree School and then the new basketball court down

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<v Speaker 2>at Winton Terrace which was rebuilt and then a mural

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<v Speaker 2>painted on it by local artists Brent Billingsley, which is extraordinary.

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<v Speaker 2>And as we were getting closer to that service date

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<v Speaker 2>on July twenty third, you could feel the energy and

0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:09.800
<v Speaker 2>the community people were outside. I mean this basketball court.

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<v Speaker 2>Steve and I were down there about a month and

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<v Speaker 2>a half ago or so walking around with the Housing Authority,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, there was nothing on it. It was cracked,

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<v Speaker 2>there were weeds, there was a mattress on it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>they're just it wasn't in use. And now it's not

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<v Speaker 2>only been you know, repaved and rebuilt, but it's got

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<v Speaker 2>this mural and Brent, you know, brought in kids to

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<v Speaker 2>help paint it from the neighborhood. He you know, incorporated

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of win and terrace history. It's one of

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<v Speaker 2>the oldest housing communities of its type in the country

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<v Speaker 2>kind of you know, the pride in place is such

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<v Speaker 2>an important theme of all this. So, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>housing authority and the tree gardener just two extraordinary layers

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<v Speaker 2>of this project.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when we come back, I'd like to explore a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more about you know, what the trees, what

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<v Speaker 1>Rockdale Garden, what it all has meant for the community.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, if you have any stories to share

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<v Speaker 1>with you know, groups or people who were transformed by

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<v Speaker 1>this work, I'd love to hear them. Uh, you are

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<v Speaker 1>listening to Let's Garden with Scott Berlin. I'm here with

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<v Speaker 1>John Butcher, Steve Foltz, and Charlie Frank from Cinceni Read's

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<v Speaker 1>And welcome back here again with John Butcher from Madisonry

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<v Speaker 1>Care and Landscape, Steve Folds from Cincinnati Zoo and Potanical Gardens,

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<v Speaker 1>and Charlie Frank from the Red's Community Makeover or Red's

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<v Speaker 1>Community Fund fund. There, Okay, there we go. During the break,

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie brought this up. But Steve, you know, our team

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<v Speaker 1>is really committed to this and put in some long

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<v Speaker 1>hours and a lot of good work.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I tell you we've got the best horticulture team

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<v Speaker 4>in the country, hands down. You know. Jerome Stanger, Dave Padour,

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<v Speaker 4>he's one of our heroes in horticulture. He's he's so quiet,

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<v Speaker 4>he does all our landscape and design. He's he's got

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<v Speaker 4>the yeah and you know what I mean, Yeah, absolutely

0:23:03.520 --> 0:23:05.680
<v Speaker 4>a lot of people. I mean he you know, six

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<v Speaker 4>five and you know, but the mighty.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, you wouldn't think that he's an artist, but

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<v Speaker 1>he is mildest guy.

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<v Speaker 4>But he can take rock work and trees and you

0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:18.760
<v Speaker 4>know that needs to be moved over like six inches right,

0:23:18.840 --> 0:23:22.680
<v Speaker 4>and he is dead on. But he is what makes

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<v Speaker 4>makes our garden go with the zoo. I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>what I'd do without him.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, a whole bunch of our team is out

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<v Speaker 1>there in the week before so and all of us

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<v Speaker 1>are out there on the day of, which is always

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<v Speaker 1>cool to see.

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<v Speaker 2>Scott I got it. Also Gary Gilbert, Yes, you know

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<v Speaker 2>he was he's worked with the Community Fund from you

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<v Speaker 2>know before he's even with the Zoo.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when he was with HGC, he he helped us

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<v Speaker 2>build the beautiful Miracle League Field all the Dunham Recreation

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<v Speaker 2>Complex over on the west side. And Gary has become

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a leader with this project along with Miranda

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<v Speaker 2>Record and Dean Violetta, you know, the the group that

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<v Speaker 2>represents the Zoo not only some of the most talented

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<v Speaker 2>people I've ever had the privilege of working with, but

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely some of the finest people.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's a privilege.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know who to give the credit to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Thane and Dave and Mark. Mark Fisher obviously has been

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<v Speaker 2>a big piece of this. Steve's one of the most

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<v Speaker 2>humble people you'll ever meet. I mean yeah, I mean

0:24:30.240 --> 0:24:33.280
<v Speaker 2>Gary tells me, Look, there's nobody that has his breadth

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<v Speaker 2>of knowledge and skill, he said, not just regionally, we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking this is one of the top horticulture people you'll

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<v Speaker 2>you'll meet and also just one of the one of

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<v Speaker 2>the best people.

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<v Speaker 1>So you wanted to talk a little bit about the

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<v Speaker 1>Bond Hill project, which was what two years ago, years.

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<v Speaker 2>Ago yeah, that was twenty twenty four. Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>you said before the break Scot you know some of

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<v Speaker 2>the memories that we have of you know, impacting the

0:24:57.600 --> 0:25:00.439
<v Speaker 2>community and kind of hearing that impact, seeing it, healing it.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know the project that culminated in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>one in Avondale with the at behind Rockdale Academy with

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<v Speaker 2>the first urban learning garden. You know, that was one

0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:15.640
<v Speaker 2>of those moments just because that's a world class, beautiful

0:25:16.119 --> 0:25:19.679
<v Speaker 2>site that has everything. I mean, the zoo hired a

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<v Speaker 2>full time guy in Carlos to come and manage it.

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<v Speaker 2>That speaks to their level of commitment well and what

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<v Speaker 2>that entire community. They were just an awe of what

0:25:29.240 --> 0:25:33.520
<v Speaker 2>had been built behind the school. But you know, twenty

0:25:33.600 --> 0:25:36.800
<v Speaker 2>twenty four in bond Hill, you know, each one of

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<v Speaker 2>these projects just has a little bit of magic to them.

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<v Speaker 2>And Steve said, they they find us more than we

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<v Speaker 2>find them. And the group that found us ahead of

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<v Speaker 2>that project was the leadership at the Xavier Jesuit Academy

0:25:49.680 --> 0:25:52.800
<v Speaker 2>over on California Avenue off Riding Road, and they were

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<v Speaker 2>in the process and they were one of three Jesuit

0:25:55.160 --> 0:25:57.720
<v Speaker 2>schools in the city there. You know, Xavier University in

0:25:57.760 --> 0:26:00.840
<v Speaker 2>Saint Xavier High School being the others, and they had

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<v Speaker 2>this vision they'll they'll be entering their third year. I

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<v Speaker 2>just bumped into Kyle Chandler, their principal. They're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be up to eighty kids this year in five different

0:26:08.520 --> 0:26:11.399
<v Speaker 2>age groups. Being a part of that from the ground level.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Principal Chandler brought Steve and Gary and some

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<v Speaker 2>of the folks myself back during that first school year

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<v Speaker 2>and they took us out to the learning garden and

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<v Speaker 2>the kids were telling us how much time they spend

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<v Speaker 2>out there, how much they've learned, how they you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they they're all weeding out there and everything. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that Steve had envisioned this being not just a source

0:26:35.600 --> 0:26:39.920
<v Speaker 2>of beauty and inspiration, but one that is everyday educational.

0:26:41.000 --> 0:26:44.800
<v Speaker 2>Was exceeding that goal, and you know, part of that project.

0:26:45.200 --> 0:26:48.840
<v Speaker 2>What made bond Hill also so unique was right across

0:26:48.880 --> 0:26:54.320
<v Speaker 2>the street from Zavior Jesuit is the Bondhill Academy, which

0:26:54.359 --> 0:26:57.640
<v Speaker 2>is Cincinnati Public K through six, and then behind that

0:26:57.680 --> 0:27:04.639
<v Speaker 2>building is the RC's Bondhill Community Center, and then the

0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:08.000
<v Speaker 2>Church of the Resurrection, which shared the parking lot with

0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:10.840
<v Speaker 2>the Jesuit school also ran a food shelf out of

0:27:10.880 --> 0:27:12.960
<v Speaker 2>there every week. And then, oh, by the way, there's

0:27:13.359 --> 0:27:16.880
<v Speaker 2>a park that had basically sort of been forgotten, and

0:27:17.080 --> 0:27:19.280
<v Speaker 2>Steve helped bring that back to life. When we put

0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:21.160
<v Speaker 2>a walking trail in. He said, you know, it needs

0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:24.360
<v Speaker 2>real shade. And the zoo came in and this wasn't

0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:28.280
<v Speaker 2>part of the original plan, but they put sixty trees

0:27:28.320 --> 0:27:31.480
<v Speaker 2>around that walking path and before we were even a

0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:34.439
<v Speaker 2>day or two away to the official ribbon cut, there

0:27:34.440 --> 0:27:37.240
<v Speaker 2>were people out there enjoying the park, walking their dogs,

0:27:37.320 --> 0:27:40.720
<v Speaker 2>thanking us. Yeah, a new ball field, there was a

0:27:40.720 --> 0:27:43.080
<v Speaker 2>big piece of that. And then the day after usually

0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:47.280
<v Speaker 2>there's not a day after because everyone's pretty drained because

0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:49.840
<v Speaker 2>we typically try to schedule the hottest, humid, most humid

0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:50.320
<v Speaker 2>day of the time.

0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:53.000
<v Speaker 1>You're very successful. Well, we got very lucky this year.

0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:57.080
<v Speaker 2>But you know, then we had Reds players Brent Suiter

0:27:57.320 --> 0:27:59.840
<v Speaker 2>and Will Benson come out and work with Keipsince and

0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:03.400
<v Speaker 2>Beautiful to bring the community garden back to life. And

0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:07.399
<v Speaker 2>that thing needed some help, and Steve and Dave and

0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Jerome and the team came out in the rain and

0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:13.240
<v Speaker 2>they got that one done too. It wouldn't have gotten

0:28:13.240 --> 0:28:15.760
<v Speaker 2>down the way it looks now without them, and that's

0:28:15.800 --> 0:28:18.679
<v Speaker 2>just the type of partners they are. They just showed up.

0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:20.000
<v Speaker 2>But I gotta tell you this too. I mean, the

0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:23.800
<v Speaker 2>beautiful playground, the playground equipment service is installed this year

0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:26.320
<v Speaker 2>at Winton Hills and it's phenomenal. It looks like a

0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:29.080
<v Speaker 2>ride at King's Island. And these kids are going to

0:28:29.160 --> 0:28:31.719
<v Speaker 2>lose their minds on August nineteenth when they're back in school.

0:28:32.080 --> 0:28:34.640
<v Speaker 2>The day before this year, so just two weeks ago,

0:28:34.720 --> 0:28:37.879
<v Speaker 2>Steve's walking through and we see that there's sort of

0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:40.720
<v Speaker 2>a path there that didn't get filled in with anything,

0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:43.320
<v Speaker 2>and Steve just decided we're putting shrubs in here. They're

0:28:43.360 --> 0:28:47.920
<v Speaker 2>not going to have this thing sounds like incomplete, and

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:51.200
<v Speaker 2>I just can't say enough about you know, that just

0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:55.120
<v Speaker 2>totally captures, you know, what this is about. It's like,

0:28:55.200 --> 0:28:57.160
<v Speaker 2>let's get this right for the kids in the community.

0:28:57.440 --> 0:29:00.680
<v Speaker 1>You Know. One thing I've always appreciated about these projects

0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:03.560
<v Speaker 1>is so many, maybe all of them occur at a

0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:09.240
<v Speaker 1>school and just exposing the kids, especially kids growing up

0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:14.200
<v Speaker 1>in urban environments, just to the beauty of horticulture of gardens.

0:29:15.400 --> 0:29:19.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, almost every horticulturist I know when you ask

0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:23.160
<v Speaker 1>them how they became a horticulturist. That usually they're saying, Oh,

0:29:23.200 --> 0:29:25.200
<v Speaker 1>as a kid, my grandma had a garden, or my

0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:29.640
<v Speaker 1>family had a garden or some story like that. And

0:29:30.280 --> 0:29:33.040
<v Speaker 1>these kids will all have a had a garden growing

0:29:33.120 --> 0:29:37.600
<v Speaker 1>up through these projects, and I think that's I mean,

0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:41.680
<v Speaker 1>there's no end in extrapolating how important that is.

0:29:41.960 --> 0:29:44.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I think that's something we're landing on now

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:48.320
<v Speaker 4>and again that theme of an urban learning garden, I

0:29:48.360 --> 0:29:52.600
<v Speaker 4>think is so important. And when we did Rockdale, I

0:29:52.600 --> 0:29:56.120
<v Speaker 4>mean there's everything from a sensory garden to an amphitheater

0:29:56.360 --> 0:30:01.440
<v Speaker 4>to a pollinator gardens. There's shrubs to have fruit, you know,

0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:05.520
<v Speaker 4>all throughout there's apple trees, pear trees.

0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:05.600
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:09.200
<v Speaker 4>And the whole idea wasn't to necessarily feed the community.

0:30:09.240 --> 0:30:11.840
<v Speaker 4>It was to show kids, you know, where their food

0:30:11.920 --> 0:30:15.280
<v Speaker 4>comes from. And they showed you and where the fruit

0:30:15.360 --> 0:30:18.320
<v Speaker 4>came from. There was a honeyberry. I'd never seen a

0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:21.880
<v Speaker 4>honeyberry fruit before, but a first grader took us out

0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:25.680
<v Speaker 4>and started picking the honey berries and eating them. It's like, well, yeah,

0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:29.160
<v Speaker 4>doesn't everybody pick honey berries? And yeah, I know a

0:30:29.240 --> 0:30:31.480
<v Speaker 4>lot of horticultures. Don't even know what a honeyberry is

0:30:31.600 --> 0:30:35.400
<v Speaker 4>yet this first grader already knows and it was excited

0:30:35.440 --> 0:30:38.000
<v Speaker 4>to show you and super In fact, most of the

0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:41.400
<v Speaker 4>tours we give during the school season, they're taken over

0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:44.600
<v Speaker 4>by the kids because they're so excited. You know, they

0:30:44.720 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 4>come up in the spring, they have asparagus. They're eating

0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:49.440
<v Speaker 4>asparagus while we're trying to lead a tour and the

0:30:49.440 --> 0:30:52.040
<v Speaker 4>people are like legine that a kid eating asparagus, Yeah,

0:30:52.120 --> 0:30:55.760
<v Speaker 4>fresh from the ground, And they end up taking the Oh,

0:30:55.800 --> 0:30:58.000
<v Speaker 4>you want to see the you know where the strawberries are,

0:30:58.040 --> 0:31:00.720
<v Speaker 4>and you want to see this, and it's it's amazing

0:31:01.000 --> 0:31:05.200
<v Speaker 4>right in the middle of Avondale. How talented these kids are.

0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:08.480
<v Speaker 4>And it's just give them the opportunity in the space

0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:11.959
<v Speaker 4>and they'll really thrive. And you never know, you know,

0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:15.760
<v Speaker 4>maybe when they become you know, the president, the mayor,

0:31:16.720 --> 0:31:19.560
<v Speaker 4>they'll look at schools and go, how come there's no

0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:22.520
<v Speaker 4>school garden here, Come on, let's go and so we

0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:24.280
<v Speaker 4>don't know the impact.

0:31:23.800 --> 0:31:25.840
<v Speaker 1>That we're having and then they'll turn immediately to this

0:31:25.960 --> 0:31:27.520
<v Speaker 1>is a reds community fund.

0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:31.479
<v Speaker 4>But it's great and I just want to thank Charlie

0:31:32.120 --> 0:31:35.760
<v Speaker 4>and the Reds for really making this possible and we

0:31:35.800 --> 0:31:39.400
<v Speaker 4>get more the zoo, our team, we get more out

0:31:39.440 --> 0:31:43.960
<v Speaker 4>of it spiritually, and it really just warms our heart

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:47.520
<v Speaker 4>to do these projects. And they've been very successful, and

0:31:47.560 --> 0:31:49.400
<v Speaker 4>we thank you, Charlie.

0:31:49.320 --> 0:31:50.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, Steve.

0:31:50.600 --> 0:31:53.760
<v Speaker 2>When we got to Avondale in twenty thirteen, I mean

0:31:54.120 --> 0:31:56.720
<v Speaker 2>it was the horticulture team at the zoo that really

0:31:56.800 --> 0:32:01.080
<v Speaker 2>finally brought this this thing to full color. And I,

0:32:01.320 --> 0:32:04.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, and I live about two three minutes from

0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:08.880
<v Speaker 2>Gabriel's place, so I get to drive by it all

0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:13.280
<v Speaker 2>the time, and I remember just how stunned I was

0:32:13.400 --> 0:32:16.360
<v Speaker 2>with the amount of time and effort and care that

0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:19.360
<v Speaker 2>they put into it, and remember covering it the night before.

0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:24.600
<v Speaker 2>And you know, because we P and G deserves so

0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:30.440
<v Speaker 2>much credit for this, the logistical effort, the leadership, I mean,

0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:34.760
<v Speaker 2>they're the ones that really started it, and we couldn't

0:32:34.880 --> 0:32:37.880
<v Speaker 2>do it without them. But it is the zoo that

0:32:38.560 --> 0:32:41.440
<v Speaker 2>that brings it to life. And Dave Jenicke said it,

0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:44.160
<v Speaker 2>and I heard Dave and Jerome say it as well,

0:32:44.200 --> 0:32:47.960
<v Speaker 2>and it just keeps, you know, it keeps bouncing around

0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:50.640
<v Speaker 2>my brain that you know, the kids that are back

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:52.880
<v Speaker 2>at Winton Hills Academy here in a week and a half,

0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:55.680
<v Speaker 2>they're going to grow up with these trees. You know,

0:32:55.720 --> 0:33:01.240
<v Speaker 2>they're going to grow together. You know that that's you know,

0:33:01.280 --> 0:33:04.320
<v Speaker 2>And that was like Brockdale Academy was just empty space

0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:08.520
<v Speaker 2>to be mode occasionally and maintained. And now it's alive

0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:11.760
<v Speaker 2>and it's and just the possibilities are undless.

0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:17.320
<v Speaker 1>I remember the first day, the first volunteer day, if

0:33:17.360 --> 0:33:19.360
<v Speaker 1>my memory is right, and I think it is, twelve

0:33:19.400 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 1>thousand plants went in the ground that day and that

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:24.040
<v Speaker 1>was with a that was twenty one, right, So that

0:33:24.160 --> 0:33:26.720
<v Speaker 1>was like a diminished volunteer group because COVID was still

0:33:26.720 --> 0:33:32.960
<v Speaker 1>going on, you know, talk about transformation. Yeah, that was

0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:37.080
<v Speaker 1>a flat piece of turf, not even good turf, just

0:33:37.600 --> 0:33:41.880
<v Speaker 1>worn out, beat up turf and what eighty eight truckloads

0:33:41.920 --> 0:33:45.840
<v Speaker 1>of soil and twelve thousand plants later. But it's doable,

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:48.560
<v Speaker 1>and people should, you know, look into if you have

0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:52.400
<v Speaker 1>questions about how can we do something like this, you

0:33:52.400 --> 0:33:54.520
<v Speaker 1>can reach out to Charlie and Steve. I'm sure of it.

0:33:54.600 --> 0:33:56.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I'm putting you on the spot.

0:33:57.240 --> 0:33:59.640
<v Speaker 4>And one of the things I'd like to just pass

0:33:59.680 --> 0:34:02.640
<v Speaker 4>along is. You know, everyone's got a backyard, front yard,

0:34:03.000 --> 0:34:07.880
<v Speaker 4>and just being able to bring life and more ecology

0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:13.160
<v Speaker 4>into your yard. It really is, you know, heartwarming to

0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:15.759
<v Speaker 4>see the butterflies come in, to see the birds come in.

0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:20.240
<v Speaker 4>That's something you can't get with just a lawn. And

0:34:20.360 --> 0:34:24.719
<v Speaker 4>so we'd like to challenge everybody to plan it for pollinators,

0:34:24.719 --> 0:34:27.799
<v Speaker 4>put some good trees in and and really, you know

0:34:28.760 --> 0:34:31.239
<v Speaker 4>what these gardens have done for the kids at the

0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:34.960
<v Speaker 4>school and the community. You know, let's think about doing

0:34:35.000 --> 0:34:36.080
<v Speaker 4>it in near your own backyard.

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, nothing says you can't add some trees to your

0:34:39.480 --> 0:34:43.239
<v Speaker 1>front yard and contribute to the community yourself. And that's

0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:46.880
<v Speaker 1>what it's all about, getting more people planning more plants. Charlie,

0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:49.200
<v Speaker 1>it has been such a thrill to have you here.

0:34:49.280 --> 0:34:51.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad you could come and tell us about

0:34:51.800 --> 0:34:55.480
<v Speaker 1>the good work you're doing. Can you tell us where

0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:56.759
<v Speaker 1>the project will be next year?

0:34:57.080 --> 0:35:01.040
<v Speaker 2>I cannot, you know, We've we've got to couple of neighborhoods.

0:35:01.280 --> 0:35:02.799
<v Speaker 2>Usually there are a.

0:35:02.800 --> 0:35:03.279
<v Speaker 1>Few, I mean.

0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:06.560
<v Speaker 2>Steve mentioned that he and the team from the zoo

0:35:06.640 --> 0:35:10.960
<v Speaker 2>had met with Obelaye, the Went Hills Community Council president,

0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:13.960
<v Speaker 2>two years in advance. I mean, we visited Lincoln Heights

0:35:14.000 --> 0:35:17.040
<v Speaker 2>for the first time almost a decade before we wound

0:35:17.120 --> 0:35:19.879
<v Speaker 2>up there working that project in twenty twenty two. Same

0:35:19.920 --> 0:35:21.960
<v Speaker 2>with Walnut Hills. We were just there last year and

0:35:22.440 --> 0:35:25.280
<v Speaker 2>oh my goodness, what the zoo built behind the Odell

0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:27.680
<v Speaker 2>Owens Center for Learning is something like you'd see at

0:35:27.680 --> 0:35:32.200
<v Speaker 2>the Biltmore Estate. It's so beautiful, the butterflies coming back

0:35:32.239 --> 0:35:36.120
<v Speaker 2>to something that had just been asked fhalt. So yeah,

0:35:36.200 --> 0:35:38.319
<v Speaker 2>some of them take a while to percolate. Scott, we've

0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:40.759
<v Speaker 2>got two or three and hopefully within the next few

0:35:40.760 --> 0:35:41.920
<v Speaker 2>months we'll be able to I'm.

0:35:41.760 --> 0:35:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Already sure forward to meet next year's project. Thank you

0:35:45.000 --> 0:35:45.879
<v Speaker 1>so much for being here.

0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:46.759
<v Speaker 2>My pleasure. Thank you.

0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:49.719
<v Speaker 1>When we come back, we'll talk to Gary Sullivan. Let's

0:35:49.719 --> 0:35:51.560
<v Speaker 1>go with Scott Berlin back in a few.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, welcome back. You're listening to That's Garden with Scott Berline.

0:37:43.120 --> 0:37:46.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm or we're wrapping it up. We enjoyed Charlie Frank

0:37:46.840 --> 0:37:52.319
<v Speaker 1>very much, and I'm here still with John Butcher from

0:37:52.400 --> 0:37:56.439
<v Speaker 1>Madison Treecare and Landscape. Thrown off. I was throwing off

0:37:56.440 --> 0:37:59.840
<v Speaker 1>by the email difference that we talked about earlier and

0:37:59.880 --> 0:38:02.239
<v Speaker 1>you you guys are celebrating a big anniversary this year,

0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:04.480
<v Speaker 1>eighty years this year, eighty years in business, and it

0:38:04.600 --> 0:38:08.640
<v Speaker 1>was how many generations my grandfather started nineteen forty six.

0:38:09.200 --> 0:38:10.320
<v Speaker 1>That's very, very cool.

0:38:10.760 --> 0:38:14.120
<v Speaker 4>And Steve and I will say that we use Madison

0:38:14.160 --> 0:38:16.160
<v Speaker 4>because they were one of the finest companies in the

0:38:16.200 --> 0:38:21.200
<v Speaker 4>city and they've also contributed to the community fund. So

0:38:21.280 --> 0:38:21.640
<v Speaker 4>thank you.

0:38:21.800 --> 0:38:26.400
<v Speaker 1>Thanks for having us. Oh absolutely, and along with enjoying

0:38:26.440 --> 0:38:30.200
<v Speaker 1>people with us, Gary Sullivan joins us. Now, Gary, how

0:38:30.239 --> 0:38:30.520
<v Speaker 1>are you?

0:38:30.920 --> 0:38:34.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm doing fine? Good morning everybody. Hey Gary, Yes, sir.

0:38:35.600 --> 0:38:36.960
<v Speaker 1>What do you got today on your show?

0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:38.160
<v Speaker 3>I don't know anything in the rain?

0:38:38.640 --> 0:38:42.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, of course it will.

0:38:43.000 --> 0:38:47.360
<v Speaker 3>It's all directly responsible for this, Yeah, directly responsible. We

0:38:47.440 --> 0:38:50.480
<v Speaker 3>just talk about droughts. Now we talk about floods. What's

0:38:50.520 --> 0:38:50.879
<v Speaker 3>going on?

0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:53.120
<v Speaker 1>It's living in the modern world.

0:38:53.440 --> 0:38:57.239
<v Speaker 3>Oh my goodness, gracious. Yeah, we're going to talk about heat, humidity, ring,

0:38:57.320 --> 0:38:58.600
<v Speaker 3>gutters and some pumps.

0:38:59.040 --> 0:39:03.200
<v Speaker 1>How's that? It sounds like everything you need to solve

0:39:03.360 --> 0:39:04.080
<v Speaker 1>too much water?

0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:06.759
<v Speaker 3>Well, you know what it's all about water control. We

0:39:06.840 --> 0:39:09.759
<v Speaker 3>preach it all the time. And man, I'll tell you what.

0:39:09.800 --> 0:39:13.319
<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of water control needed right now from

0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:18.400
<v Speaker 3>undersized gutters. We've been talking about that, how these deluges

0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:22.160
<v Speaker 3>are really overrunning the guttering systems on many houses, especially

0:39:22.800 --> 0:39:25.359
<v Speaker 3>when there's a couple of roofs kind of funneling into

0:39:25.360 --> 0:39:27.360
<v Speaker 3>one place and it is a funnel, and then you

0:39:27.400 --> 0:39:30.399
<v Speaker 3>get a hard stream coming down the roof and over

0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:33.840
<v Speaker 3>the gutters, and then you get erosion and some basement leaks.

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<v Speaker 3>And I guess as a landscaper, you can always use

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<v Speaker 3>just a big pile of rocks at the bottom, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't do rocks. That doesn't you know, the rain

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<v Speaker 1>just runs right through them. You can put a big

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<v Speaker 1>pile of soil up against your foundation.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was talking about just rocks just to divert

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<v Speaker 3>splash the water.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that's a classic. That's a classic dry stream.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so called dry stream.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, I'll tell you what it really is. I've

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<v Speaker 3>seen a lot of issues with gutters this year, more

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<v Speaker 3>so than any other time. And I've been telling people,

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<v Speaker 3>if you don't think you have a problem, because there's

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<v Speaker 3>not many people that want to rush out in the

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<v Speaker 3>middle of a thunderstorm, just see if their gutters are overflowing.

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<v Speaker 3>But so many of our homes have landscaping beds and mulch,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, I always see your homes talking to

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<v Speaker 3>you all the time. All you got to do is

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<v Speaker 3>go out after the rain. You'll see immediately whether you

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<v Speaker 3>have an overflow problem or not, because it'll just wash

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<v Speaker 3>out the mulch or wash out soil, and you'll see

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<v Speaker 3>where the problem is. And you got to really get

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<v Speaker 3>that correct. And there's many ways to do that, and

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<v Speaker 3>we'll talk about a bunch of those.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta tell you, Gary, I ran out in the

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<v Speaker 1>rain yesterday to see how my gutters were doing.

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<v Speaker 3>You're the guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm that guy, the guy I didn't even put on

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<v Speaker 1>a rain coat or an umbrella. It wouldn't have mattered.

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<v Speaker 1>It was gonna get soaked one way or the other.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I used to preach that, and then somebody, I think,

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<v Speaker 3>kind of kind of wrapped me upside the head and say,

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<v Speaker 3>why would I go out in the middle of a

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<v Speaker 3>downpourt And well then.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't Well, yeah, in the dumb dumb thing was the

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<v Speaker 1>lightning that was coming straight up and down?

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<v Speaker 3>Why we did hard bolts. I was outside and it

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<v Speaker 3>just came inside. When first thunderstorm blew through.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple of those thunderbolts caused me to say words

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not very proud of.

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<v Speaker 3>They were serious ones.

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<v Speaker 1>I yeah them. Yes, there's a tower right across the

0:41:24.960 --> 0:41:28.680
<v Speaker 1>street from me gets hit a lot. Yeah, is that right? Yeah? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>It's been an interesting summer though, and I'm sure you

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<v Speaker 3>say the same in the horticultural business. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's it seems like we're talking about things that we

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<v Speaker 3>never talk about in the summertime, and that is the

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<v Speaker 3>whole rain issue and controlling water. Usually were repairing concrete

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<v Speaker 3>and ceiling decks, and you know, those jobs have been

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<v Speaker 3>few and you know, kind of picking your your day.

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<v Speaker 3>You're one day where it's not gonna rain or you know,

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<v Speaker 3>so we are working on different things this year, that's

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<v Speaker 3>for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I just put a six by six cement or

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<v Speaker 1>post up for a gate with a lot of cement

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<v Speaker 1>because I want that post to stay put one day

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<v Speaker 1>before all that rain yesterday, and I'm just thinking, what's

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<v Speaker 1>this doing to the concrete. It doesn't have to look pretty,

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<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't, so I'm hoping it's still good.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep. I'll tell you what. You know, we do things

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<v Speaker 3>one time and then the next time when it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>hold up, we come back and say that is never

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<v Speaker 3>going to fail again.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. Well, thanks Gary, Wi'll be listening to your.

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<v Speaker 3>Show all right, very good up to good work.

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<v Speaker 1>I will try. Thanks to John Butcher from Madison Tree

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<v Speaker 1>Care Landscape came this time, Steve Foltz from the Cincinna

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<v Speaker 1>Potanical Garden Zoo, and Charlie Frank from the Reds Community Fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to thank all the callers and listeners today

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<v Speaker 1>and Danny Gleeson, our producer. He's a magician back there.

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