1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Newsletter. Bengals beat the or lost to the Patriots, but 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: the defense was. 3 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 2: Better on Sunday. Was it better schemes, better schematics by 4 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 2: Al Golden or the Bengals just winning matchups? 5 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 3: Oh, it was really kind of fun to watch. I 6 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 3: wouldn't say it was necessarily schematic. I thought it was 7 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 3: a little bit more at the player level where on 8 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 3: our AI grade, DJ Turner had a grade out as 9 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 3: an eight, which is seen as like a player of 10 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 3: the week type performance. You also get that really nice 11 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 3: pick six from Geno Stone. You get some stunting success 12 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 3: on the inside, which I did like that, you know, 13 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 3: test the offensive line in a different way, a bunch 14 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 3: of goal line stands and kind of getting in the 15 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 3: face of wide receivers. So, actually, now I think about 16 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 3: it was a little bit schematic, but definitely at that 17 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 3: player level where now we're getting okay, good games from 18 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 3: Murphy Hill and Osi like those are things that you 19 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 3: can actually build on, where I do think some of 20 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 3: the issues for the Patriots came down to something as 21 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 3: simple as Drake made just just spray in a few 22 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 3: of those throws. It was it was a little fun, 23 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 3: if I may say so myself, to watch that game back. 24 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 2: It was it was, it was, It was an entertaining game, 25 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 2: it didn't have the right result. When teams play good 26 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 2: goal line defense, is that ever schematic or is it 27 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: just line up and beat the dude in. 28 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: Front of you? 29 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 3: Still I would say for really high level goal line offenses, 30 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 3: it can very much be schematic. I think when you 31 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 3: see four runs right into the middle, back to back 32 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 3: to back to back, I would lean that to be 33 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 3: a little bit more at the player level. And I 34 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 3: don't think there's anything wrong with that. As much as 35 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 3: I talk about skins and stuff, I still think this 36 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 3: is a player makes plays type of league. So I 37 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 3: do think that was just like a really nice job 38 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 3: on the inside at the individual level. How many times 39 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 3: have we talked this year, and you even look at 40 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 3: it in this game, where are you missing a tackle? 41 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 3: Are you able to destroy a block? And I think 42 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 3: the Bengals did that on the goal line against the Patriots. 43 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 2: The one thing they did not do well, and it's 44 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: been a deficiency all year. I think it stood out 45 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 2: on Sunday because they actually did do a lot of 46 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 2: things well is they had no defense in the middle 47 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 2: of the field. Hunter Henry Austin Hooper combined ten catches. 48 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 2: Hunter Henry had one hundred and fifteen yards. They combined 49 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 2: for over one fifty five Is there is there anything 50 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: you can do when you are playing two rookie linebackers 51 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 2: and you have the deficiencies the Bengals have in safety? 52 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: Is there anything that Al Golden can do to at 53 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: least somewhat shore up their defense in the middle of 54 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 2: the field. 55 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 3: I mean, you can try and find ways maybe just 56 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 3: make their life a little easier. Whether half the time 57 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 3: you're sending one linebacker and you're able to simplify the 58 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 3: job of the other linebacker. Because I agree with you, 59 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 3: and I'm watching that back and like any time the 60 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 3: Patriots needed to find a way to create some explosion, 61 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 3: it's like, let's get the linebackers going in the wrong direction, 62 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 3: We're going to be able to take advantage of them. 63 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 3: So I will say linebacker in the NFL is an 64 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 3: extremely hard job. When you look at the top, there 65 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 3: aren't like fifteen dominant dominant players. Maybe the same way 66 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 3: you think about wide receiver, but it's yeah, sometimes blow 67 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 3: the top and again through some of the film when 68 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 3: you're looking at emotion, just like totally kind of unfolding 69 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 3: part of the defense. 70 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it really stood out on Sunday. I'm not sure 71 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: that's going to get any better given the fact that 72 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 2: they're going to play a team with a couple of 73 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 2: really good tight ends in in the Baltimore Ravens. So 74 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow is going to play, and you and I 75 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 2: have talked about this a bunch. I don't expect Joe 76 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: Burrow to suddenly start taking a bunch of snaps under center. 77 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 2: But like, given given what they have been able to 78 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: touch on offensively without Joe, given Joe's extensive skill set 79 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 2: and all his experience, what can we expect schematically for 80 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 2: Zach Taylor and Dan Pitcher to come up with against Baltimore? 81 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 3: I mean, can I get some isolation shots from my guy, 82 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 3: Mitchell Tinsley. You have a lot of fun to watch 83 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 3: against the Patriots, so much fun. He was a lot 84 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 3: of fun. 85 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 2: Bo. 86 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 3: I'm looking for anything that can make this stuff more 87 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 3: fun when I'm watching it. I do think, obviously with 88 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 3: a Key Higgins in this game, that is a little 89 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 3: bit of a bummer, And I guess like underneath it all, 90 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 3: I feel like, yes, Joe Burrow is probably not going 91 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 3: to just become like a forty under center type quarterback. 92 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 3: But maybe we should have a little bit of that 93 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 3: expectation where you need to find different ways to make 94 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,839 Speaker 3: life easier on your offensive line. You need to find 95 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 3: different ways to really defenses in a conflict. And I mean, 96 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 3: I thought Chase Brown had a really good game against 97 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 3: the Patriots. You're able to see that burst. I think 98 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 3: he can run from gun and on our center. But 99 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 3: if we're getting into under center looks, we're getting that 100 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 3: play action look we can have guys running across the 101 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 3: middle of the field. I do want to see that 102 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 3: for the Bengals because the rest of this year to me, 103 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 3: and I like that Burroughs playing because it's like he's 104 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 3: he's paid. And I think that if you take a 105 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 3: full year off of football, that is really tough. Now, 106 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 3: don't play this back if he gets injured at any 107 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 3: point over the next games here. But I do think 108 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 3: keep finding ways to shape that offense and more for 109 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 3: a little bit. And I totally get Burrow is a special, 110 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 3: like one of one type shotgun player, like he really 111 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 3: really is. But in the NFL now the way things 112 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 3: are going, you're not always able to just sit back there. 113 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 3: You don't want to drop back forty five times from 114 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 3: a regular shotgun the way that your offensive line kind 115 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 3: of has played overall. So let's expect a little bit 116 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 3: under center and hopefully be able to talk about it 117 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 3: more next week. 118 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: I hope, So it'll be interesting. 119 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: Sean saide as with a subscribe to his newsletter These 120 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 2: Stats and Skin Newsletter at suomer sports dot com. The 121 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens in the first four or five games of 122 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 2: the season were nearly as bad as the Bengals are defensively. 123 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 2: Since then, they've been terrific. Six consecutive opponents, they've given 124 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 2: up twenty points or fewer. The obvious answer I think 125 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 2: is they've gotten healthier. But beyond that, what's been the 126 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 2: difference you've seen on tape between Baltimore in the first 127 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 2: half of their game so far and what they've done 128 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 2: over the last month and a half. 129 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 3: Big difference has been putting Kyle Hamilton in the slot. 130 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 3: You get him a little bit closer to the line, 131 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 3: you get him to play physical against the run, really 132 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 3: as like a line after a type of body. But also, 133 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 3: I don't want to take anything away from the wins, 134 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 3: but you played the Jets, the Browns, the Vikings, and 135 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 3: the Dolphins, not exactly the greatest stretch of offenses in 136 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 3: the NFL. So, Kyle Hamilton, I think he exited the 137 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 3: game maybe twice against the Jets for being banged up. 138 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 3: I think he ends up being healthy, and I'm assuming 139 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 3: that he's gonna play, but maybe you take it to 140 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 3: him a little bit, you know, at that physical level 141 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 3: where I mean, he's an awesome run defender. So I'm 142 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 3: not saying that you're gonna get positives all the time, 143 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 3: but you know, let's see, are you going to be 144 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 3: able to as a safety type body play in the 145 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 3: box for you know, thirty forty stats a game. 146 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 2: You point out that if you look at the Bengals 147 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 2: Jets game, Derrick Henry just a nineteen percent rushing success 148 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 2: rate right the first game of the season, and granted 149 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 2: he had a big fumble in that game, but they 150 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 2: lose to Buffalo. Derreck Henry was awesome in that game. 151 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 2: I feel like when I've watched him since, that hasn't 152 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 2: so much been the case. Meanwhile, Lamar Jackson hasn't been himself. 153 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 2: Not sure he's totally healthy. What's missing from the Ravens 154 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 2: offense this year. 155 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think those two things are tied together quite well, 156 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,559 Speaker 3: because I don't think Lamar Jackson is one hundred percent healthy. 157 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 3: I don't think he's able to like be a conciston. Hey, 158 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 3: we're going to lean on you for fifteen carries every 159 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 3: single game, and if you're not able to do that, 160 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 3: sometimes it ends up closing some of the lanes for 161 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 3: Derrick Henry. So I it's been interesting to see this 162 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 3: offense definitely take a little bit of a step back 163 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 3: and it feels like on the outside, yes, Zy Flowers 164 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 3: have had a good year, but I'm just not sure 165 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 3: that this receiving group like really strikes a ton of 166 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 3: fear in your heart. So if you're able to win 167 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 3: over you know, the left guard, the right guard, where 168 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 3: I think you can take advantage of this offense and 169 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 3: you're able to tackle Henry, you know, just at our 170 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 3: near the live of Scream, which I think is going 171 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 3: to be a real test for the Bengals linebackers. But yeah, 172 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 3: I think even at a team that is probably I 173 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 3: guess gonna win the AFC North because we have to 174 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 3: give the AFC North Championship to someone this season, they're not. Really, 175 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 3: they're not. 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