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Speaker 3: All right, here we go, Welcome in and happy Friday.

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Speaker 3: It is Sincy three sixty coming your way for the

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Speaker 3: ESBN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. So happy, so grateful

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Speaker 3: to have you along on a Friday afternoon. The sun

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Speaker 3: the day, Austin, but the sun is actually out right now,

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Speaker 3: which means we've got a lot to celebrate, and we'll

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Speaker 3: do so here for the duration of Cincy three sixty.

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Speaker 4: We've gotten multiple, multiple.

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Speaker 3: Guests this afternoon, which means if you want to talk

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Speaker 3: to us this afternoon, our number one probably the best

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Speaker 3: We'll kick off our number three with our guy, the

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Speaker 3: voice of FC Cincinnati Tommy Gallader. That'll be at two

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Speaker 3: o'clock as FC Cincinnati will welcome in Atlanta to TQL

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Speaker 3: Stadium for a four to forty five start tomorrow and

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Speaker 3: the friendly confines of TQL Stadium. We also have Bob

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Speaker 3: We'll talk to Bob in our number three. We'll talk

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Speaker 3: about something that apparently Danan Peterson is going through. We'll

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Speaker 3: of course we'll pass things over to the Moegar Show

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Speaker 3: two forty five for quick kits. That is what's ahead,

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Speaker 4: With a.

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Speaker 3: Brief Olympic not our official Olympic up date Austin. But

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Speaker 3: there is this turning point and I don't know when

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Speaker 3: and how it happens. But there's a point where the

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Speaker 3: Olympics were happening, and I think you and I had

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Speaker 3: this conversation on air, like I watch, but it's kind

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Speaker 3: officially switched for me. Now I am team USA. The

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Speaker 3: USA trailed Canada late, won nothing, they score a late

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Speaker 3: And at that point it's like, Okay, I do care

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Speaker 4: Watching that moment, and it's especially cool, and the Olympics

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Speaker 3: going forward. We've also got a massive college basketball weekend

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Speaker 3: both nationally and locally. Nationally tomorrow you get number four

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Speaker 3: Number one Michigan is going to take on number three Duke.

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Speaker 3: So all four top teams in action tomorrow, all those

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Speaker 3: The Miami RedHawks Austin looked to move to twenty seven

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Speaker 3: often you could argue that college and the NCUBA don't have,

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Speaker 3: DOUBLEA Tournament. Why would you mess with that? Why would

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Speaker 5: Why?

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Speaker 3: Why mess with something that good? I don't quite understand

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Speaker 3: it mentioned before FC Cincinnati will play host to Atlanta tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: The NBA.

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Speaker 3: NBA was back in action last night. I know it

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Speaker 3: wasn't a good night for Moe's New York Knicks. I

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Speaker 3: know it wasn't a good night for your Chicago Bulls either.

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Speaker 4: The Bulls they're a bad basketball team. Everybody kind of

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Speaker 4: knows that they've lost nine of their last ten, seven consecutive. Well,

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Speaker 4: basketball season's over. Here's in the NBA.

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Speaker 3: Here's what was discussed yesterday from the NBA Commissioner, Adam Silver.

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Speaker 3: He informed the thirty general managers across the NBA that

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Speaker 3: the NBA plans to make anti tanking rule changes for

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Speaker 3: next year, so they are starting to propose potential concepts

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Speaker 3: for changes during its December meeting with owners. Concepts that

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Speaker 3: have been discussed to curb tanking are as follows. First

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Speaker 3: the trade deadline, no longer allowing the team to pick

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Speaker 3: You ain't gonna do it back to back years. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you got to try to win. Lottery odds are allocated

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Speaker 3: Do you think it's right for Adam Silver to address

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Speaker 4: It needs to be changed. I don't know if I

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Speaker 4: don't understand why they still have a lottery. That's the

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Speaker 4: part that I don't understand. Why can't you do it

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Speaker 4: like the NFL does it. That would be my question,

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Speaker 4: why can't you, Hey, worst team in the league and

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Speaker 4: moving on from Lucas. So I don't understand why they

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Speaker 4: but whatever, Well, I hope it works.

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Speaker 3: Funny you mentioned the lottery because the Ohio Lottery postgame

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Speaker 3: concert series is back at Great American Ballpark. Let me

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Speaker 3: give you these names John Party, marsh Mellow, Rick Ross, Ludicrous.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Any of those four names do anything for you? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: All of them?

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Speaker 4: Right, all of them. I like all those guys. Okay.

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Speaker 4: I saw John Party last summer. John Party's good. He

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Speaker 4: wasn't too bad. Marshmellow is an interesting cat. He'll put

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Speaker 3: He's got more than sixteen point eight billion Spotify streams.

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Speaker 3: So congrats, awesome, awesome stuff, and uh, it was just

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Speaker 3: talk here. Before we do that, let's talk to Greg. Hey, Greg, Okay,

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Speaker 3: how's he pulling?

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Speaker 4: Friday?

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Speaker 9: I saved this for Friday because I want to see

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Speaker 9: But sometime back, my best friend says to me, if

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Speaker 9: Your fires, b what would your first hires be? And

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Speaker 4: I've got to answer to Austin every day. Yeah, as

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Speaker 10: If I in the.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it'll get done. Greg, Thank you so much, man,

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Speaker 3: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: How about that high praise from Greg? You good with

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Speaker 4: I'd try, like hell, I can't promise you much, but i'd.

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Speaker 3: Try like me, I'd be I'd be like West Miller

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Speaker 4: Howie Roseman, sure, come on over. How I saw by

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Speaker 4: He made three point four billion off of his like

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Speaker 4: It doesn't make a dent. No, No, like the seven

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Speaker 3: most of them I just read and kind of shrug

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Speaker 3: mock trade in the NFL that James points out, it

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Speaker 3: has Dexter Lawrence coming to the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 4: Man, sign me up.

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Speaker 3: Bleacher Reports Alex Ballentine put this mock draft or mock

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Speaker 3: trade together. The Giants Dexter Lawrence and a twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: Do you take that right now? Yes, Sexy Dexy.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if the Giants would make Like, if

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Speaker 3: Bring him in and it's a and it's at a

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Speaker 3: position of need. So like ESPN dot Com today did

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Speaker 3: National Football League, safety good year. If you need a

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Speaker 3: deep safety, bad year. If you need a safety that's

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Speaker 3: going to come in the box. So if you want

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Speaker 3: that safety playing near the line of scrimmage, you want

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Speaker 3: that safety playing and run support, that's the role you

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Speaker 3: need on your team.

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Speaker 4: It's a bad year.

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Speaker 3: There are safety options available on the back end that

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Speaker 3: are going to stay deep in those one high safety

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Speaker 3: looks that can provide value for you on the interior

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Speaker 3: defensive line, which again you're talking about Dexter Lawrence. It's

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Speaker 3: a good year, it says to need John Franklin Myers.

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Speaker 3: It's a bad year to get an impactful defensive tackle

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Speaker 3: on third downs. That again, and these are free agents,

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Speaker 3: so that I kind of tied that into what James

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Speaker 3: talked about of Okay, well, if it's a bad year

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Speaker 3: and free agency for it, well, now's the time to

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Speaker 3: get one in free agent, or now is the time

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Speaker 3: I'm go to get one via trade. Those are the

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Speaker 3: types and I feel like these are the types of

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Speaker 3: conversations that have to be had by the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 4: For what it's worth.

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Speaker 3: A quarterback, it's a good year if you need Fernando Mendoza.

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Speaker 3: It's a bad year if you need anything else. That's

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Speaker 3: kind of where the quarterback market is going into this year.

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Speaker 3: Tight End, good year for the undersized tight end, bad

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Speaker 3: year for any significant blocking tight ends. Bengals don't need that.

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Speaker 3: They've got that on lockdown. Wide receiver was interesting to me.

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Speaker 4: Feeling you're being sarcastic, yes.

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Speaker 3: Wide receiver was interesting to me. It's a good year

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Speaker 3: to need bodies in the bullpen depth at the wide

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Speaker 3: receiver position. Bad year if you need an elite wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: Would you categorize the Bengals as needing some depth at

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Speaker 3: the position? We talked about wide receiver three a lot YEP,

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Speaker 3: that could make sense. Interestingly enough, we've done mocked drafts

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Speaker 3: Austin where we talk about the offensive tackle position, maybe

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Speaker 3: at number ten, depending on what the Bengals do between

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Speaker 3: now and the draft. According to Sola, like it's a

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Speaker 3: good year if you need a starter for twenty twenty seven,

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Speaker 3: but a bad year.

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Speaker 4: If you need one for twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: So guy you can develop, guy you take for maybe

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Speaker 3: depth right now to turn into that guy out a

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Speaker 3: later point for you. Linebacker, I think another need for

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Speaker 3: the Bengals. This is the good news. It's a good

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Speaker 3: year an NFL free agency. If you need a difference

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Speaker 3: maker at linebacker. It's a bad year if you need

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Speaker 3: a difference maker and you don't have a top ten pick.

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Speaker 3: But again, now we're talking about linebacker also can be

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Speaker 3: a position of need for the Cincinnati Bengals. And if

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Speaker 3: you are taking James advice and Jeremiah Love is in

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Speaker 3: play at running back, it's a good year to need

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Speaker 3: a starting running back. It's a bad year to need

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Speaker 3: a young running back to start for the next four years.

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Speaker 3: There you go, Okay, now we know tie this back

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Speaker 3: to Dexter Lawrence. It's not a great defensive interior defensive

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Speaker 3: line class. Dexter Lwrence can play the run, in the pass.

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Speaker 3: I mean, what's the best way to describe Dexter Lawrence

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Speaker 3: for those that don't know, just game wrecker at every level.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, he's got thirty sacks in his NFL career.

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Speaker 4: He is somebody that you basically have to double team.

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Speaker 4: He can be on the field in every down. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: he's six. Yeah, he's a beast in the run game,

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Speaker 4: one of the strongest players in the NFL. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 4: an every down guy that immediately makes you better. You

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Speaker 4: got a double team.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, now he only this what's interesting? Do you worry

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Speaker 3: at all about this season? In twenty twenty four Austin

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Speaker 3: he only played twelve games, he had nine sacks. Last

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Speaker 3: year in seventeen games, he had a half sack. Do

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Speaker 3: you worry at all about that? If you're Dexter Lawrence,

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Speaker 3: does that maybe allow you to maybe get a little

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Speaker 3: bit better value or is this just the product of

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Speaker 3: the guys on a bad football team.

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Speaker 4: I think he's on a bad football team, but mostly

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Speaker 4: on a good defense. Yeah, maybe there's a little bit

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Speaker 4: of that. And like you said, he's getting doubled every time. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: because I've had in large part twenty twenty four. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: they've had some issues with their injuries on the edge.

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Speaker 4: So now I think it could help the price. I'm

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Speaker 4: not giving up on a twenty eight year old with

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Speaker 4: that kind of production.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll take a break, we'll come back, We'll continue

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Speaker 3: a little NFL conversation, talk some baseball as well. This

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Speaker 3: leads up to Charlie Goldsmith at one o'clock, and your

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Speaker 3: phone calls next and still to come, five, one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 3: Let's take a couple of phone calls here as we

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Speaker 3: move along. Charlie Goldsmith up ahead at one o'clock. Your talkbacks'

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Speaker 3: still got Tom Glad, Bob Manjeen Moegger all scheduled for

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Speaker 3: today's show between now and three o'clock.

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Speaker 4: John is calling in right now. It's up John, Good.

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Speaker 12: Afternoon, fellas.

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Speaker 4: How are you good?

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Speaker 9: Are you?

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Speaker 13: We're hanging in there. Love the Rejoin music. I mean

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Speaker 13: it sounds like a nineteen seventies cop show or something like,

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Speaker 13: you know, we throw everything out there, ko Jack or

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Speaker 13: something like that.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm anxious.

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Speaker 13: I'm I'm sixty two, So when I make these references,

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Speaker 13: you probably look at each other and know, what the

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Speaker 13: hell is this guy talking about.

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Speaker 4: I can see that the police music, though I like this, Yeah.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, like they're moving along. They're trying to,

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Speaker 13: you know, get some information from someone, and they're staring

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Speaker 13: out the window and they're doing all their stuff. The

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Speaker 13: Dexta larn stuff is interesting. He had a really down

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Speaker 13: year last year and he's surrounded by talent with the Giants.

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Speaker 13: But you know, again, that may get hitto Cincinnati for

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Speaker 13: not having to give up a first round pick. The

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Speaker 13: player that really interests me is the same age as

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Speaker 13: Justin Simmons. I think the Giants are closer to contending

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Speaker 13: than Tennessee, so the Giants may not want to part

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Speaker 13: with next to Lawrence, especially coming off a season with

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Speaker 13: a half a sack, where Tennessee is probably a couple

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Speaker 13: of years away, if ever.

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Speaker 5: From contending.

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Speaker 13: So that might play into that. But Simons or Lawrence

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Speaker 13: absolutely what you need tailor downs, obviously we're all kind

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Speaker 13: of hoping for is there at number ten. And as

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Speaker 13: far as the edge rusher, a boy from the Chargers

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Speaker 13: is the guy who had three sacks against the Patriots

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Speaker 13: in the wildcard round, and it seemed like everybody had

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Speaker 13: three sacks against the Patriots in the playoffs, but he

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Speaker 13: he is a physical specimen I mean, so if you

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Speaker 13: could add him to the edge, next to Lawrence in

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Speaker 13: the middle, or of course Justin Simmons or tailored down,

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Speaker 13: now you've really upgraded the defense. But I agree with you,

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Speaker 13: guys wide receive the three would be a really, really

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Speaker 13: nice addition as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a sneaky position that not a

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Speaker 3: lot of people are talking about. As it pertains to

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Speaker 3: Dexter Lawrence last year faced one of the highest double

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Speaker 3: team rates in the NFL seventy four point nine percent

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Speaker 3: of snaps he saw a double team. So that and

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Speaker 3: as you mentioned, John, that's on a very good defense.

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Speaker 3: So you're dealing with other defenders on that New York

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Speaker 3: Giants front who pose a lot of problems. And yet

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Speaker 3: you look across the board, nearly three out of every

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Speaker 3: four snaps, teams are deciding that Dexter Lawrence was the

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Speaker 3: guy that needed to be double teamed, not Brian Burns,

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Speaker 3: not any of the other Keon Thibodeaux or any of

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Speaker 3: those other guys.

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Speaker 4: It was Dexter Lawrence.

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Speaker 3: But to your point, a team that might not be

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Speaker 3: as close and is looking to acquire more assets, maybe

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Speaker 3: at Justin Simmons and the Tennessee Titans makes sense as well.

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Speaker 3: I just I think there are so many options out

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Speaker 3: there available outside of just a free agent pool, and

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Speaker 3: it ties in that what we've talked about all along

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Speaker 3: of how the Bengals need to go about this and

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Speaker 3: how creative they need to be. It's not just about

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Speaker 3: spending the money you have, but are you willing to

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Speaker 3: move on from assets in upcoming years in order to

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Speaker 3: try to win in this window right now with the

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Speaker 3: core talent that you have.

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Speaker 13: So true, because when you look at free agency, I've

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Speaker 13: already has this philosophy. Sure, the Bengals got Trade Hendrickson

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Speaker 13: back in twenty twenty one and was tremendous value. But

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Speaker 13: sometimes you can really build your depth with free agency

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Speaker 13: because oftentimes it's just too costly. And I'm not saying

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Speaker 13: that the Bengal shouldn't spend money. They should spend money

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Speaker 13: with the team they have right now to try to

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Speaker 13: get back to the super Bowl. But oftentimes you have

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Speaker 13: to trade for someone because that's the player that's twenty seven,

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Speaker 13: that's the player's twenty eighth that's still in his prime.

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Speaker 13: You may have to give up a second round pick,

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Speaker 13: but so be it. You're getting someone you know who's

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Speaker 13: going to step.

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Speaker 5: In and do the job.

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Speaker 13: And as far as Kale Downs, I think you probably

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Speaker 13: could pull one hundred thousand people in Cincinnati and eighty

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Speaker 13: thousand would probably say that's the.

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Speaker 5: Guy you want.

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Speaker 13: Would really tie that secondary together. Now your defense is

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Speaker 13: at league viable and you tweet the offense and.

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Speaker 5: You go from there.

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Speaker 13: Because as we saw this year, and I really believe

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Speaker 13: the next five years in the AFC might be different

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Speaker 13: quarterbacks taking turns getting to the super Bowl, you know,

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Speaker 13: I mean for fourteen fifteen years, it's felt like as

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Speaker 13: Bradier Mahomes, well, well this year we saw Drake manybe

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Speaker 13: Next year hopefully it's Jill Burrow the year after that,

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Speaker 13: maybe shosh Allen. You may see us string of quarterbacks

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Speaker 13: that go once and then maybe go back later on

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Speaker 13: in their career, not as dominance we saw from Brady

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Speaker 13: and Patrick Hollins.

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Speaker 3: And the trade aspect is unique because, let's face it,

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Speaker 3: you are at times you're going to see the elite

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Speaker 3: players reach free agency, but a lot of times there

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Speaker 3: is a reason a player is reaching free agency.

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Speaker 4: Whether it's age or fit or price tag.

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Speaker 3: You can get around that creatively when you talk about

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Speaker 3: the trade market and finding potential suitors, and not just suitors,

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Speaker 3: but organizations who are at different parts of their process

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Speaker 3: than maybe what you are. Maybe a team that views

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Speaker 3: themselves as four or five years away or three or

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Speaker 3: four years away, as opposed to a team that is

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Speaker 3: literally trying to win a Super Bowl next year. I

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Speaker 3: think that's where you can separate yourself this offseason if

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Speaker 3: you're the Bengals.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, to scour those rosters and see who might be available.

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Speaker 13: And again it always goes back to the fact that

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Speaker 13: they are always on the chair with a small scouting department,

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Speaker 13: And now you know you're just going up against numbers

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Speaker 13: where the Ravens have thirty five scouts and the Browns

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Speaker 13: have thirty one scouts.

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Speaker 5: And the Bengals have eight. Yep.

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Speaker 13: So and obviously they use their coaches to Scott a lot,

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Speaker 13: which is asking a lot because his coaches should be

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Speaker 13: coaching as much as anything.

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Speaker 5: So, yeah, that that's also a part of it.

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Speaker 13: But I don't think the defense.

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Speaker 6: Is that far off.

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Speaker 13: I don't think it's going to be the two thousand

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Speaker 13: and two Buccaneers with just a couple of tweaks, But

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Speaker 13: I think it defense could be if it could be

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Speaker 13: middle of the world with that offense, sure, then I

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Speaker 13: think you absolutely have a chance to fulfill all the

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Speaker 13: dreams that all Bengals fans should have.

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Speaker 12: Hella is always great talking to to.

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Speaker 4: You have a great weekend, you too, One more here

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Speaker 4: and then we'll get a break in. What's that Mike?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 4: We don't have Mike. To John's point of they're awesome

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Speaker 4: if you are.

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Speaker 3: If you're rebuilding the Bengals in how you view is

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Speaker 3: what Greg said, your GM role, which you're getting ready

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Speaker 3: to be paid by Greg once he gets Elon Musk

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Speaker 3: money be huge as you're rebuilding the team. How much

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Speaker 3: are you looking into free agency or how much creativity

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Speaker 3: do you need in finding maybe one or two trade partners?

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Speaker 3: And in your state what I'm always interested in. There

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Speaker 3: are organizations that value future draft picks and organizations that don't.

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Speaker 3: Would you be one of those that values a future

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Speaker 3: second a future third round pick, or are you living

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Speaker 3: more in the moment saying I want what I can

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Speaker 3: get now, I'll figure out the picks later. I'm willing

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Speaker 3: to part ways with him.

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Speaker 4: I don't I value picks in the first and second round.

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Speaker 4: I don't value much after that when it comes to

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Speaker 4: future picks. So I would be willing to trade off

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Speaker 4: some of those. I don't know that it takes an

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Speaker 4: overwhelming amount of create activity. Like how many times have

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Speaker 4: we seen a trade happens and then it's like, wow,

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Speaker 4: that's all they got. Yeah, that makes sense that that's

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Speaker 4: the thing Like sometimes and obviously it works both ways.

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Speaker 4: Is if you're the Bengals, you gotta be Okay, a

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Speaker 4: fifth round pick, just take it. We'll take the player, yep,

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Speaker 4: you know, and don't be so you know, worried about that.

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Speaker 3: But even even to it a dexter lawrence, they've just

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Speaker 3: not You've not hit on enough draft picks to say, ah,

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Speaker 3: this this second round pick's too important, I'll go get

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Speaker 3: the proven guy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. They had a plan and it hasn't worked, and

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Speaker 4: so you have to be able and be willing to

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Speaker 4: move off of that plan and be a little bit

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Speaker 4: more creative. We've been asking them to be more active

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Speaker 4: in the trade market for years and it just hasn't

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Speaker 4: happened as much. And maybe that happens with Trey Henderson

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Speaker 4: and maybe the Flacco thing was a jumping off point. Hell,

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Speaker 4: they did make an nd season trade with UH with

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Speaker 4: Khalil Herbert a couple of years ago, although it was

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Speaker 4: just because they absolutely had nobody else to play. So

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Speaker 4: you want them to operate from a proactive mindset instead

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Speaker 4: of a preventative mindset. So like Flacco, they had to

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Speaker 4: have him. Herbert, they had to have him because they

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Speaker 4: didn't have other people who could play that position. Why

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Speaker 4: don't you go and get a starter in you know

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Speaker 4: that from you know one of those players like bj

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Speaker 4: Hill for example, they went out and traded a guy

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Speaker 4: that they were done with and Billy Price and got

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Speaker 4: a dude who came in and started for you in

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Speaker 4: the Super Bowl. They can do it, They have done it.

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Speaker 4: Do it again. And to answer the first part of

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Speaker 4: your question is not new news. We've talked about it

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Speaker 4: a lot this offseason over the last seven weeks. You

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Speaker 4: have to be active in free agency. You have the

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Speaker 4: cap space to be able to do it. You have

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Speaker 4: a myriad of needs in which you can address multiple

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Speaker 4: of them without taking up all of your cap space,

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Speaker 4: and your positioned in the draft where you can help

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Speaker 4: your defense or put your off or put your team

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Speaker 4: as a whole in a position to take the best

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Speaker 4: player available. So it's it's not like they're trying to

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Speaker 4: reinvent the wheel here, right. It's not like they're the

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Speaker 4: New Orleans Saints who are dealing with all these cap issues,

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Speaker 4: or the Kansas City Chiefs that are dealing with all

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Speaker 4: these cap issues. It's pretty straightforward what the Bengals need

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Speaker 4: to do.

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Speaker 3: I think it's the idea of, like you mentioned, you

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Speaker 3: know what, you had your plan? Awesome, the plan? Has

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Speaker 3: it worked? Are you willing to say, hand up, it

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Speaker 3: hasn't worked. Dev eight from that and act in a

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Speaker 3: nature of urgency this upcoming offseason. That's that is and

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Speaker 3: it will continue to be the keyword for me, is

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Speaker 3: this team acting with urgency and how they address this offseason,

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Speaker 3: the urgency that this upcoming season that needs to be

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Speaker 3: the season they need to get back to where they

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Speaker 3: need to be.

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Speaker 4: What can you do between now and then to get there.

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Speaker 4: Let's take a break, we'll come back.

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Speaker 3: We've got to finish hour number one, and then we'll

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Speaker 3: welcome in Charlie Goldsmith. All happening next on ESPN fifteen

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Speaker 1: This is This is Tony Pike since three sixty about Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: I'm Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 3: Good Afternoon, Welcome Back Hour two is here since e

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Speaker 3: three sixty on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Only

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Speaker 3: one way to get our number two started. We head

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Speaker 3: to Arizona. We had the Red Spring training to check

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Speaker 3: in with our guy, Charlie Goldsmith joining us live right now.

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Speaker 4: Charlie, what's going on? How are you, Tony?

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Speaker 12: I'm doing great?

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Speaker 10: How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm fantastic, Charlie. Now you may be at spring training,

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Speaker 3: but how excited are you tomorrow even though it's the

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Speaker 3: Cactus League opener to have your eyes on what's going

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Speaker 3: to be happening in Lawrence, Kansas with the bear Cats.

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Speaker 10: My gosh, Yeah, I was talking to my dad about

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Speaker 10: the game on Sunday, he was there. His big takeaway

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Speaker 10: was just how invested the fans, the players, the coaches.

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Speaker 12: All still clearly even though it's a lost season.

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Speaker 10: So I was that warmed my heart to hear that

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Speaker 10: from my dad.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad to hear that, Charlie.

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Speaker 3: Now, what I want to know in this Red spring

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Speaker 3: training there's clearly not as many position battles up for grabs.

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's a ton of roster spots up

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Speaker 3: for grabs. So when you start the actual gameplay tomorrow,

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Speaker 3: what are some things that you want to see? What

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Speaker 3: are you looking for as spring training continues on?

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Speaker 12: You know what I really want to look forward tomorrow.

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Speaker 12: Let me tell you a story. So Chase Burns is

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Speaker 12: going to start the Texas League Open.

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Speaker 10: There he was out here, I guess five days ago

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Speaker 10: or five days from tomorrow last Tuesday, I believe, throwing

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Speaker 10: his second live bulleten of the spring. And Chase Burns

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Speaker 10: is a guy who look up the gifts, like was

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Speaker 10: the celebrator and chess pounder of all time in college,

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Speaker 10: but last year he was one of the most stoic, calm,

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Speaker 10: quiet guys on the Reds. And watching him throw that

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Speaker 10: live BP last Tuesday, he was pounding his chest. He

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Speaker 10: was cursing under his breath when he couldn't get Dane

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Speaker 10: Miles to swing through a strike three bastball, and then

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Speaker 10: he reached back and he got that strike three basketball.

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Speaker 10: So if that's chased his mindset on a backfield here, yes, yes, please,

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Speaker 10: I'd like to watch that in a even in a

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Speaker 10: spring training game, because he's clearly fired up.

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Speaker 4: Is that the moment that caused you to tweet Chase

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Speaker 4: Burns eye emojis.

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Speaker 10: That's the moment that caused me to tweet Chase for diamoji.

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Speaker 12: That's sparked a two thousand word feature I wrote about

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Speaker 12: Chase Burns.

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Speaker 10: A few days ago, and like this is a cliche

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Speaker 10: thing to say in spring. Oh, he's got a different

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Speaker 10: presence about him this year. But I think there's a

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Speaker 10: connection to from what I've just described on the mountain,

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Speaker 10: how he carried himself, like Chase Burns is expressing the

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Speaker 10: fact that he is incredibly high expectations for what he

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Speaker 10: can do right now, and frankly, he might be one

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Speaker 10: of the most talented people on this team and one

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Speaker 10: of the most talented young pitchers.

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Speaker 3: In all base You mentioned the way he carries himself.

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Speaker 3: Have you seen that more as a team for the

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Speaker 3: Reds at spring training? Does this feel like a more

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Speaker 3: confident team? Does it feel like they've carried themselves differently

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Speaker 3: thus far through spring training?

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Speaker 10: Yes, you know, we've talked about kind of how early

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Speaker 10: they're getting here, just how hard they're working, how focused

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Speaker 10: the work is. I'll take this as an opportunity to

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Speaker 10: talk about TJ. Friedel and Spencer Spear where I talked

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Speaker 10: to each of them about this yesterday. They're always in

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Speaker 10: the middle of everything. And you talk about, you know,

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Speaker 10: the message of the year being it's time, Well, that

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Speaker 10: means different things for different people. You know, for some guys,

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Speaker 10: it's time to be a good player for Steering, for Friedel,

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Speaker 10: it's kind of time for them to make this their team.

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Speaker 10: And they're they're two really impressive leaders. Like Kirk Kiskelli

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Speaker 10: told me when Steer was a rookie, this guy has

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Speaker 10: the factor from a leadership perspective.

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Speaker 12: TJ.

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Speaker 10: Obviously everyone looks up to the way he plays. It's

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Speaker 10: kind of been their team and you know everyone, everyone

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Speaker 10: kind of loves the way those guys play. And so

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Speaker 10: those are two guys that everyone, you know as they

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Speaker 10: should be followed.

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Speaker 4: For Spencer Steer, like, with him playing so many different

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Speaker 4: positions and being expected to play so many positions, what's

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Speaker 4: his spring training been like with the different types of

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Speaker 4: work that he's been getting it just bouncing around the

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Speaker 4: different spots, Like, what's it been like for Steer trying

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Speaker 4: to work on all those things at once?

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Speaker 12: So he bounces around.

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Speaker 10: So like yesterday when they did I Believe relay throws

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Speaker 10: kind of in that ten to fifteen spot in the schedule,

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Speaker 10: he was working out at second base. And then today

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Speaker 10: when they were doing pop up priority, you know, working

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Speaker 10: on the I Got It stuff between the infielder and

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Speaker 10: me outfielders. He was in the left and now some

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Speaker 10: days at the end of the day then he'll catch

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Speaker 10: up on a position. Hemits he's really not working much

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Speaker 10: at all at first base. Ideally, if everyone's healthy, left

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Speaker 10: is his spot.

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Speaker 12: And then I spoke with him yesterday.

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Speaker 10: He's really motivated and he's a chip on his shoulder

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Speaker 10: to be this team second becuse me to be this

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Speaker 10: team back up second basement. And I said to him, like,

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Speaker 10: you've got to be the only everyday player in the

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Speaker 10: league who's that motivated to be a backup at a spot.

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Speaker 10: But he is, and a story with him has been

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Speaker 10: helped the last two years. He says he needs to

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Speaker 10: remind everyone what he can do and he's healthy, and

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00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 10: if that's the case, then the power and the ability

873
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:13,919
Speaker 10: to play second base, he says, we'll come.

874
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 3: It's been a really cool follow up of storylines throughout

875
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 3: spring training and one of the stories that I think

876
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 3: is worth noting is that of TJ Antone and what

877
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 3: he has battled back from. He's writing a book, but

878
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 3: as it relates to TJ and tone, is there a

879
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 3: roster spot up for Grams for him? Outside of what

880
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 3: an awesome story it is and the work that it's

881
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 3: taken him to get back.

882
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 4: Does he have a role on this team that can.

883
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 12: Help You've heard me say this.

884
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 10: My biggest concern for the Reds is that even though

885
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 10: the roster battles for the true spots on the opening

886
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 10: day roster are the best I've seen in the last

887
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 10: you know, my time, I'm doing this six seven years,

888
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 10: the depth beyond that is probably the most concerned at

889
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 10: in their overall pitching depths. When you get passed like

890
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 10: the top eight in the rotation, in the top twelve

891
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 10: in the bullpen, and you need fifteen starters twenty relievers

892
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,240
Speaker 10: to get to a season like you need that depth.

893
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 10: Antone I would describe his presence on the mound is

894
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 10: he's carrying himself like twenty twenty oney tj Antone in

895
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 10: terms of like the whole thing is, I'm just gonna

896
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 10: go at it and fetch you and get you at

897
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 10: the hook curveball. Now, the stuff isn't quite what it was,

898
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 10: the velocity isn't quite what it was, and the command

899
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 10: has been something that you know, we'll see how that

900
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 10: progresses up the spring. It's still so early. But if

901
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 10: he can be good enough to improve your death, that

902
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 10: really matters.

903
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 3: From from an offensive standpoint, where do you think the

904
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:47,720
Speaker 3: last roster spot battle comes down to? Is JJ Blede

905
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 3: in a roster battle? Is Will Benson in a battle

906
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 3: to make this roster when it comes down to that

907
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 3: last spot, How do you view that competition playing out?

908
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 10: I think I think kind of the news of the

909
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 10: week was Francona talking about Benson, saying like we see

910
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 10: him kind of filling some of Gavin Lux's role, and

911
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 10: Thedo didn't say this, and things could change in the spring,

912
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 10: but the way he talked about Benson, how you talk

913
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 10: about a guy who you expect to make the club.

914
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 10: One spot will go to a backup centerfielder who's right handed.

915
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 10: That'll be Dane Myers or Blake Done both elite Steed.

916
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 10: Dane I think would have the edge. He's more experienced.

917
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 10: He has crushed lefty. But you're ready for your overreaction

918
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 10: to the spring like Flake counts crushing the ball out here.

919
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 10: We'll see how that translates into real game action. And

920
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 10: then that would leave one true bench spot for Nate Lowe,

921
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 10: for JJ Bladay, Michael Tolia, and then they have a

922
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 10: couple of other utility guys. Michael Genis like guys like that.

923
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:48,879
Speaker 10: I'm gonna be writing more about all this this week,

924
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 10: and they're they're all like they've all been good recently.

925
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 10: They weren't good last year. That's why they're competing for

926
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 10: roster spots. But each guy has had a very interesting

927
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 10: journey and different people could talk to yourselves into different

928
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 10: guys being the one that gets back to that, and

929
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 10: so that's going to make retimes as well. I forgot

930
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 10: to mention him. He's a really interesting person in camp.

931
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 10: Maybe he clicks, maybe he doesn't, but you can make

932
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 10: a case for him, just like you can make the

933
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 10: case for any of these gus.

934
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 4: Is there anything like specific that the Reds are looking

935
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 4: for from those guys in games that can kind of

936
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 4: swing the opinion of them in their favor. Is there

937
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 4: anything specific it feels like they're looking for from those guys.

938
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 10: Well, for everyone, it's different. Like I mentioned Ree, times

939
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 10: like talking to him. He wants to prove that he's

940
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 10: an elite defender and that's not what we think of

941
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 10: with Rees, but he's actually really really improved in that area.

942
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 10: Nate Lowe has to show that he is ready to

943
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 10: hit for power against red handed pitching at its first

944
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 10: base defense is better than it was last year.

945
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 5: Jay J.

946
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 10: Bloday has to show that just his overall athleticism allows

947
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 10: him to be the type of presence in the box

948
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 10: that he wasn't twenty twenty four. Michael Tolly has to

949
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 10: show that he can make contact. Like each guy, it's

950
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 10: a different thing that the games won't tell you.

951
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 12: But it's just to feel the eye test. How are

952
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 12: these guys?

953
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 10: Who are these guys? That's what that's what you evaluate

954
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 10: in the springs.

955
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 3: You are doing extensive work right now on the reds Bullpen.

956
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 3: A deep dive, a deep dive, as you put it,

957
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 3: and you started with a guy in Tony Santion that

958
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 3: still as we sit here today, I don't think gets

959
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:31,439
Speaker 3: credit for the season he had last year. Divulge into

960
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 3: that a little bit about Tony Santion's role with this

961
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 3: team and the weapon that they hope he can be

962
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:36,959
Speaker 3: this year.

963
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 10: First, let me apologize to the length of that story.

964
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 12: Almost dat a six part series.

965
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 10: On the Red Bullpen, and I said, you know what,

966
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 10: let me just make this one email. And so, for

967
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 10: logistic reasons, the hope there was kind of like if

968
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 10: it's spring training and you're like who's Hagan Danner.

969
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 12: You can click that story.

970
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,720
Speaker 10: Sancion. I'm just gonna tell my favorite Tony Sancion's story.

971
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 10: Do you remember, like the crazy home run over the

972
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 10: fouful that PCA hit against the Reds last may mine you?

973
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 10: Maybe it don't. He like flips the bat, pounds of chests,

974
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 10: like all kinds of crazy stuff, Like it was like

975
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 10: a star making moment for PCA early in the seasons.

976
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 10: I talked with Tony about that later in the year

977
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 10: in last September. He said, I was tipping my pitches

978
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 10: that day. I fixed it, and I was thinking about

979
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 10: that moment all year. And then flash forward to the

980
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 10: final Sunday, the second last Sunday, the final week of

981
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:33,240
Speaker 10: the season. Tony gets PCA out to get the saved

982
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 10: and one nothing went over the Cubs on a Sunday

983
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 10: game down the stretch of the season. Like Tony's pusically share,

984
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 10: like he's that dog, like he's that competitor. He was

985
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 10: an elite production reliever last year with the stuff to match.

986
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 10: You know, we talked about Ellie doesn't have to play

987
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 10: one hundred and sixty two games anymore and what that

988
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 10: could mean for him.

989
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 12: Being fresh, and I mean.

990
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 10: Look at Tony, like because they have Pierre Johnson and

991
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 10: bruck Burke and because Fultz could take a step, they

992
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 10: don't need Tony to throw eighty games this year again.

993
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 10: And he's just been really good since he got called

994
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 10: back up in the middle of the twenty twenty fourth seasons.

995
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 4: I want to flip back to the offense real quick.

996
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 4: One of the talking points of this offseason has been

997
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:18,240
Speaker 4: the Reds will be better if Matt McClain returns to form.

998
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 4: What have you seen from Matt McClain through the early

999
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 4: stages of camp.

1000
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 10: It's early, It's probably too early for that. The biggest

1001
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 10: thing I'd say is just the overall mindset and identity

1002
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 10: and not trying to do too much chase too much power.

1003
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,879
Speaker 10: Adding that home with the fact that he's twelve pounds

1004
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 10: or he had a twelve pounds, and of course the

1005
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 10: offseason kind of a muscle to be able to just

1006
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 10: do more damage of role at the plate. Like just

1007
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,280
Speaker 10: my opinion, Like I believe in that, they obviously believe

1008
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 10: in that they put all their eggs into Matt McClain

1009
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 10: bucket by getting rid of every other second basement on

1010
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 10: the roster. The fact that they're not putting them into

1011
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 10: the two hole yet shows like, let's build that confidence,

1012
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 10: lets you know, earn your way up there.

1013
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 12: Hopefully in their.

1014
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 10: Mind they think he's going to do that. And then,

1015
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 10: by the way, he's probably the best defender in the

1016
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 10: best base runner on the team, So that's where they've

1017
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 10: pushed their chips in. But overall it's too early to

1018
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 10: have any sort of evaluation.

1019
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 5: On him yet.

1020
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 3: I saw you reported yesterday Terry Francona talking about Cees

1021
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 3: getting into spring training games at the beginning of next week.

1022
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 3: From a health standpoint for the rest of the team,

1023
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 3: has it been a pretty healthy spring training to this point?

1024
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 3: And to that, is there anything worth noting on Cees

1025
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 3: is does he have a role on this roster? Does

1026
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,399
Speaker 3: he have a role for this team in twenty twenty six.

1027
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 10: The one injury update is that Colin Cowgill banged up.

1028
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 10: Terry Francona and the dead serious and they might have

1029
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 10: a you know, next man up kind of at first

1030
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 10: base at some point in the short term here, But

1031
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 10: on the field it's Ces and it's Joel Valdez, a

1032
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 10: young reliever. Cees. Does he have a spot as he

1033
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 10: can be to me to make the team. Probably not

1034
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 10: like to give him a shout out almost for the

1035
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 10: mindset and the humility. Like this is a guy who

1036
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 10: a couple of years ago is giving Joey Botto advice

1037
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 10: on his swing and saying that he's saw comparisons between

1038
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 10: Bono and himself. He's come a long way, Cees has.

1039
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 10: He just wants to help, He just wants to feel

1040
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 10: healthy again.

1041
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 12: He's able to.

1042
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 10: Appreciate the small wins, and he's really committed himself and

1043
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 10: things he knows he needs to be better at, which

1044
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 10: is that he was one of the worst chasers.

1045
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 12: In baseball last year. Like, now, what does that all

1046
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 12: look like for twenty twenty six.

1047
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 10: We all have no idea, but last year was like

1048
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 10: a formidable experience for him, and I've just been really

1049
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 10: impressed talking to him this spring where.

1050
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 12: He's at in his growth.

1051
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 4: Charlie.

1052
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 3: We've spent time. We've talked about Ellie as a base runner.

1053
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 3: We've talked about Ellie and the weight that he's gained.

1054
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 3: We've talked and You've talked extensively about the swing adjustment

1055
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 3: with the leg kick. What we haven't discussed much is

1056
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 3: Ellie as a shortstop. Obviously the air numbers have been

1057
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 3: too high. Have you noticed anything thus far throughout spring

1058
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 3: training that Ellie is maybe working on it shorter or

1059
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 3: just maybe looks cleaner in what he's doing at shortstop

1060
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 3: or is it still too early?

1061
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,399
Speaker 10: No, we have an evaluation to that with the Red

1062
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 10: Numbers told the organization they they did the data that

1063
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 10: Ellie's defense was suffering because of the quad like that

1064
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 10: is the story that they have for Ellie defensively. Last

1065
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 10: year I talked to pretty Betavidaz as well in depth

1066
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 10: about what he's working on with Ellie, and the things

1067
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 10: he stressed were the speed of the game. You know,

1068
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 10: Bellinger's running down the line. Freddy said, how do you

1069
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 10: adjust to a certain type of ball and make a

1070
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 10: certain type of throw based on the fact is it

1071
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 10: a do or die player? Yep?

1072
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:44,399
Speaker 12: Are you down?

1073
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 10: How many outs are there? Like all of that stuff

1074
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:50,399
Speaker 10: about playing the game. Because every spring he's always been

1075
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 10: great on the backfield defensively, it's not applying that, so

1076
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 10: they've kind of had a more of a game mindset

1077
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 10: with him. I'd say, as key for what would need

1078
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 10: to happen to work when he's on the field in.

1079
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:04,399
Speaker 12: The fire tip.

1080
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 4: What is most interesting to you about tomorrow's game?

1081
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 10: Kank Burns, I mean rhet louder to see him right

1082
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 10: after that. I don't even know who else is playing it,

1083
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 10: But like the answer to that question is there was

1084
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 10: There's a line that really stuck with me. I was

1085
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 10: talking to one of the front office guys on the

1086
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:28,280
Speaker 10: first day camp, what are you most interested in this spring?

1087
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 10: And he said everybody? And I think there's there's something

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00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 10: to that. Like I wrote a four thousand more deep

1089
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 10: dive on.

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00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 12: The bullpen because.

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00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 10: It means guys are really interesting, even a guy like

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00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:41,879
Speaker 10: Michael Chadis. I don't know if you even know who

1093
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 10: that is. He's a minor league of hearing camp due

1094
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 10: to a visa issue. When he was supposed to go

1095
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 10: to Japan last year to continue his career overseas, the

1096
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 10: team in Japan botched it, so for a month he

1097
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 10: couldn't go back to the Dodgers Triple A team. For

1098
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,720
Speaker 10: a month, he was going to a batt and cage

1099
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:02,399
Speaker 10: next to a Chuck E Chee and taking swings with twelve.

1100
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 12: Year olds just to stay ready.

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00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 10: And he played in Japan, but he came back home

1102
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 10: this year, because he said, all I want is a

1103
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 10: picture of me and my young daughter on the field together. Like,

1104
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 10: all these guys are really interesting, man, and a lot

1105
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 10: of these guys are also pretty good. Like, I think

1106
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 10: this is a I'm more optimistic about this theme than

1107
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 10: I was when I got here, and it's.

1108
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 12: Made for a lot of good sports.

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00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 4: Big news of the day, Charlie, you may have missed

1110
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 4: this as you're focusing on the actual baseball has been

1111
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 4: the Reds announcement of the postgame concert series featuring John Party,

1112
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:38,760
Speaker 4: marsh Mellow, Rick Ross and Ludacris among those four, Charlie,

1113
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 4: who are you most interested in seeing after a Reds

1114
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 4: game this year?

1115
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 10: So we have you know, usually what you'll see is

1116
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 10: the guy will make an appearance in the clubhouse or

1117
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 10: something like. Do we get Marshmellow in the clubhouse if

1118
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 10: he were in the hat? Is he not wearing the hat?

1119
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 5: Yeah?

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00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 10: Do we get some answers on Marshmallow? Do the Reds

1121
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:59,919
Speaker 10: get some answers on Marshmellow's identity? I guess I took

1122
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 10: answer better than I thought I would. I think I

1123
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 10: came up with something there.

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00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 3: I have to ask because I love promoting everything you're

1125
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 3: doing on Charlie's chalkboard.

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00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 4: Before we let you go.

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00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 3: You you had the statistic earlier today about TJ Friedel

1128
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 3: and leadoff hitters that reached base two or more times

1129
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 3: in a game seventy seven or more times last year Otani,

1130
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 3: Fernando Tatis, and TJ Friedel. I don't think people realize

1131
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 3: just how good Friedel has been as a leadoff hitter.

1132
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 3: If there's one thing or a couple things he can

1133
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 3: do to take his game to the next level, what

1134
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 3: would you envision that bean, Well.

1135
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 10: He didn't have the year he wanted defensively last year.

1136
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 12: The numbers show that.

1137
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 10: I think the eye test from what we saw showed

1138
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 10: that as well. After having the soft tissue issues in

1139
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 10: twenty four, he just didn't have that thing burst in

1140
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 10: twenty five. Nobody works harder on their speed and their

1141
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 10: body in this whole organization more than TJ Friedel, and

1142
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 10: he motivated to break a certain trend, which is the

1143
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 10: fact that over the last three years, eight total guys

1144
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 10: thirty year older have played a more games in centerfield.

1145
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 10: TJ wants to be a centerfielder for a while.

1146
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 12: He's motivated to make that stick.

1147
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 10: The right to do have more depths that they'll scene

1148
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 10: evaluate this spring. But circling back to what I said earlier,

1149
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 10: he's really emerged just as a huge leader on this team.

1150
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 10: He was just having a great mom with Ellie out

1151
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 10: here earlier, ar with mclan out here earlier when mclan

1152
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 10: is a joke shagged the fly ball and right field

1153
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 10: and McClain didn't make the play and TJ's like, see

1154
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 10: it's not so easy, and they were having a blast.

1155
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 10: Like TJ is at the center of so much of

1156
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 10: that team spirit and he sets the tone in the

1157
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 10: lineup every day.

1158
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 3: Charlie Man, you set the tone for every Friday for

1159
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 3: this show. Just let you know that is what's the

1160
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 3: easiest way to follow along with all your coverage that's

1161
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 3: happening at Red Spring training and more.

1162
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 10: You know what, I've been laying a decision. I'm gonna

1163
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 10: let you make this decision. So you mentioned the deep

1164
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 10: dive on the bullpen. I've got stuff on Lobel Day,

1165
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 10: hind done what I mentioned on Shades and kind of

1166
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 10: all those depth guys so they each at their own story,

1167
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 10: or should I do one mega deep dive into all

1168
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 10: of those guys?

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00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 4: I like the Maga dive.

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00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 12: There you go.

1171
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 4: I like the Maga dive. When do you go to sleep?

1172
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 4: Do you sleep out there or no?

1173
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 12: So that's the key. I get ten hours of sleep.

1174
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 10: I get ten hours of sleep at night out here.

1175
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 4: Incredible Charlie's chalkboard. Go check it out.

1176
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 3: Charlie, thanks so much as always for your time, man,

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Speaker 3: and we'll talk again next week. Enjoy your time.

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00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 10: Talk to you next week.

1179
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 12: Thank guys there.

1180
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 4: He is just simply the best. Maybe we'll get a

1181
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 4: Matt McLean answered next week. Last two weeks, it's too early.

1182
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 4: It's too early. Lot on everybody else, nothing on Matt

1183
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 4: mc call. We get that deep dive. That's not a

1184
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,919
Speaker 4: shot at Charlie. What's the guy doing?

1185
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 3: That's a great question. He obviously dropped the fly ball.

1186
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 3: All I care obviously is Frido was giving him some pushback.

1187
00:59:58,800 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 3: He dropped the fly ball today.

1188
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 4: All I can think about is Matt McLean. He's supposed

1189
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 4: to be the guy. Yeah, he's supposed to be the difference.

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01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 3: Where's he at? You'd better show up, By the way.

1191
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 3: Brief update, Canada ended up winning that match. They score

1192
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 3: in the final two minutes against Finland, Canada awaits the

1193
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 3: winner of USA and Slovakia. That semifinal match happening later

1194
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 3: this afternoon. What's happening next? Here is your Talkbacks on

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01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 1: From Stunning strikes for shut back Guy to last second

1197
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 1: saves the Orange and Blue deliver drama, every Dame.

1198
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 4: And if that won't give you goosebumps, I don't know

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01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 4: what will.

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01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 2: FC Cincinnati Soccer lives here or.

1201
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 1: Bailey Tonight on ESPN fifteen thirty Alexa who Got Traded?

1202
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 2: Getting ESPN fifteen thirty from iHeartRadio.

1203
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 18: That time for talkbacks. Press the microphone and record your

1204
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 18: message or Austin in tone, please keep it clean and

1205
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 18: don't be mean and a sprinkle, sprinkle, drip drift. It's

1206
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 18: that time for talkbacks. It's our favorite part of SINC

1207
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 18: three sixty. So Austin, buddy, play those talkbacks on your

1208
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 18: screen and please try not to sabotage all.

1209
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 4: Right, here we go.

1210
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 3: It is the Friday edition of Your Talkbacks right here

1211
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 3: on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

1212
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 19: Hey Austin, Tony, it's Jeff Happy for today. Hey, So Austin,

1213
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 19: question for you if I were to set the line

1214
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 19: at twenty percent, would you take the over or the

1215
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 19: under on Max Crosby being a Bengal this year, Tony,

1216
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 19: my question for you, Mick Cronin becomes available, would he

1217
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 19: become your number one target for UC's next basketball coach.

1218
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 4: Take care, Austin, I'll let you go first. I would

1219
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 4: take the under on Max Crosby being a.

1220
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 3: Bank I would also say no to McK like. I

1221
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 3: know a lot of people. I respect the heck out

1222
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 3: of mc cronan. I just I don't think that's the

1223
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 3: best path forward for the Bearcats, So that would be out.

1224
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 19: It's the double dipper, non gipper here. And to answer

1225
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 19: your questions, Austin, I would go with the over on

1226
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 19: Max Crosby, just by a slight hit. And Tony, I

1227
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 19: would not bring Mick Cronan back. Yeah, he had one

1228
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 19: sweet sixteen and twelve years. I think the fan base

1229
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 19: deserves better than that. I would not bring him back.

1230
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 19: You guys have a great weekend.

1231
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 4: There you go.

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01:02:55,560 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 20: We agree, Greg Sharonville, Greg Austin. Two big game this

1233
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 20: weekend Saturday, my Bearcats against Kansas is the Allen Field

1234
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 20: House Sunday Bearcat Hall of famers te P fifteen's game

1235
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 20: doesn't get much better than now.

1236
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 3: We are, as they say, right now, we're scrambling a

1237
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 3: little bit. Devin big part of the team. Hamstring injury

1238
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 3: presumed out. Our number one donor friend, hamstring injury presumed out.

1239
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 3: We're picking the pieces up right now for a two

1240
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 3: o'clock you know, huge two o'clock game.

1241
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:35,479
Speaker 4: First of all, day, I'm a little offended my phone

1242
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 4: hasn't ranged. Second of all, this is a great opportunity

1243
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 4: for James. Repeat, he's not getting the call.

1244
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 6: Why not?

1245
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 3: Because I think there's only one or two weeks left

1246
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 3: in the regular season and into play in the playoffs.

1247
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 3: You have to have played a certain amount of the

1248
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 3: regular season, so we have to play with guys that

1249
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 3: have already been on the roster. Yeah, but like James,

1250
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 3: still wouldn't be the call. Is I played with four

1251
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 3: before I got James involved.

1252
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 21: You mentioned that you were looking for Doug got the

1253
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 21: other day. Well, I took over his time, thought he

1254
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 21: wanted to focus on basketball. Uh So, Stu got some friends.

1255
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 21: I laugh at things that are funny and aren't funny.

1256
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 4: I don't know if I've ever heard sts on the radio.

1257
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 22: This is DJ and I think with Darren Peterson is

1258
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 22: everything that's wrong with sports today. Good luck to the

1259
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 22: NBA team the drafts that clown, and I'll be rooting

1260
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 22: for him to fail. On the flip side, the us

1261
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 22: A women's hockey yesterday was one of the most exciting

1262
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 22: events I've ever seen and emotional, and those women will

1263
01:04:58,560 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 22: be far richer for their.

1264
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 3: Unbelievable Now I'm going I'm gonna try to get the

1265
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 3: Darren Peterson side of things today with Bob Manjing how.

1266
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 4: Much do you get per gold medal? I don't know.

1267
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 4: Pretty decent chunk of changes, and I think like endorsement

1268
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 4: wise and stuff helps out a lot.

1269
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 23: Hello, this is former President Ronald Reagan, and will let's

1270
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 23: end this week with a start, bench cut, make a

1271
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 23: hole in one, see the Bengals win the Super Bowl,

1272
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 23: or eat and drink anything you want and not gain

1273
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 23: any weight.

1274
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 3: Let's go Bengals win the Super Bowl. I'd bench it

1275
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 3: in a hole in one, and I'd cut eating and drinking.

1276
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 4: I would start the Bengals. I would bench eating and

1277
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 4: drinking because I've been fat my whole life and I

1278
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 4: don't want to do that. And I would cut a

1279
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 4: hole in.

1280
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 15: One well, another week down, another week closer, thirty four

1281
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 15: branding calls in days away from opening day.

1282
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 4: Oh that's the name. I'm not familiar.

1283
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 15: Oh the slip has switched for me as well, Tony.

1284
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 15: But three on three is no way to decide Olympic

1285
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 15: semifinal games or the gold medal game on Sunday. The

1286
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 15: NHL plays three on three because they play eighty two

1287
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 15: games a season every four years.

1288
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 5: We can play regular sudden depth.

1289
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 15: Over time and it's not going to hurt these guys.

1290
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 6: I don't know.

1291
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 4: There's something about three three that this was the lone

1292
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 4: dissenting voice I saw yesterday complaining after the United States.

1293
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 3: There is something about the three on three that I

1294
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 3: think is fascinating.

1295
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 6: I like it.

1296
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 4: I enjoy it, especially as a casual hockey fan yep,

1297
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 4: and not someone who watches every day, which a lot

1298
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 4: of these people are. I think it's it's good.

1299
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 24: Hi, Tony and Austin, Happy Friday. That women's hockey game

1300
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 24: last night was just premier, yep. I mean, you couldn't

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01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 24: have had a better, better gold medal game both those teams.

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Speaker 24: I hated to see a loser, but I was so

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Speaker 24: one of the United States to come out on top,

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Speaker 24: and they did. And there's goalies on both teams. If

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Speaker 24: there'd been an MVP, they would have had to share it.

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Speaker 24: What again, I'm so proud of them, so yay, okay,

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Speaker 24: and Austin, Yeah, one more thing, Austin, when you said

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Speaker 24: you heard the office erupt in cheers, I mean that

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Speaker 24: gave me jills.

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Speaker 4: So thanks for sharing that and go u s A. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 4: Why should you never brush your teeth with your left

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Speaker 4: hand because the toothbrush works.

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Speaker 25: Better, Austin Steve from West Junior. Yes, Austin, that dude, Austin,

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Speaker 25: you are the Tom Holman of sports broadcasting and coincidentally,

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Speaker 25: you both look the same. Unbelievable. Have you ever tried

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Speaker 25: government service?

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Speaker 5: Big?

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Speaker 4: I don't know who Tom Holman is. Home Tom an audience,

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Speaker 4: Neil Diamond.

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Speaker 26: I just wanted to say how disappointed I was that

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Speaker 26: I wasn't included in the twenty twenty sixth Cincinnati Red's

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Speaker 26: postgame concert series. I thought I might have had an

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Speaker 26: inside track when I was in the hot tub with

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Speaker 26: Jeremy Row the other day, but apparently things didn't work

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Speaker 26: out well.

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Speaker 4: Better luck next year. Oh wow, nicely done. Neil, nope,

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Speaker 4: what's up TP and Audio TV Simon hope.

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Speaker 27: Everyone by now got to catch that women's hockey gold

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Speaker 27: medal match. That was freaking awesome, ant epic comeback. As

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Speaker 27: good as that win was, though, the anthem afterward was sweet.

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Speaker 27: You see other countries that are stadiums around the world

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Speaker 27: busting out their anthems. Othern'tan chanting USA Americans sort of

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01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 27: laying out and it comes our anthem. I get it's

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01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 27: not an easy song, is saying, but you don't have to

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Speaker 27: sound good.

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Speaker 5: Just sing it. Red games nope, Bengals games, nope. We

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Speaker 5: just listened.

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Speaker 27: So to hear that arena belting out our anthem that

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Speaker 27: with icing was awesome.

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Speaker 4: Of victory, it was awesome. The coolest moment anthems.

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Speaker 28: Are yeah tonyo, says Jack Over in college. Something I've

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01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 28: noticed is everyone with Elon musk money is starting to

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Speaker 28: get noticed with a certain island. So I'm personally fine

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01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 28: sticking to my day job, not.

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Speaker 4: Owning the Bengals, But I don't know, what do you

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01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 4: guys think that you put a question for.

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Speaker 5: You, Greg.

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Speaker 29: Friday, It's time for the fastest thirty seconds of NASCAR

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Speaker 29: right here on sincey three sixty. As we head down

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Speaker 29: to Echo Park Speedway in Atlanta. This thing is going

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Speaker 29: to be a brutal race. It runs a lot like

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Speaker 29: a Daytona, like a super speedway with a recent repaving.

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Speaker 29: You got to be a wheel man to get this

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Speaker 29: thing done. Look for Ryan Blaney and his epic muscustache

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Speaker 29: to take this thing into victory Lane. Eight top ten

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Speaker 29: finishes in the last ten races could be any Penske car.

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Speaker 29: But just like a super speedway, this thing could be

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01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:56,640
Speaker 29: anybody's races. Make sure you tune in. This is going

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01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 29: to be a good one.

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Speaker 4: Wow, how about that? Big? I love it?

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Speaker 24: Yeah.

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Speaker 30: I hope Jay Spurns has a great year. I said

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Speaker 30: last year he was the future. Hopefully you can prove

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Speaker 30: me right. I love US women's hockey team outstanding. The

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Speaker 30: men's team. We need to bring home to gold too.

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Speaker 30: I thought to make credit and stuff was really funny.

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Speaker 2: It made me laugh.

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Speaker 4: I know it's not funny if you're the reporter. I

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Speaker 4: don't know. The reporters had a good laugh about it

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Speaker 4: by now too, I would think, I mean, especially because

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Speaker 4: everyone's all like yeah, everyone's yeah yeah, which actually takes

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Speaker 4: me to a topic. That was our last one. Did

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Speaker 4: you see the one Olympian that kind of went after

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Speaker 4: a reporter Eileen Goom with her response, No, okay, she's

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Speaker 4: a free female freestyle skier. She's the most decorated one

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Speaker 4: in history. She was asked what I thought was a

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Speaker 4: pretty fair question. We can play it when we come back, right.

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Speaker 4: That happens next. I want to get your reaction.

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Speaker 3: We've got two segments left in our number two. Then

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Speaker 3: we'll get to Tommy g to start our number three

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Speaker 3: on the SBN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Welcome back

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01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:31,639
Speaker 3: since he three sixty ESBN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned some audio before we went to break Austin.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I under a little bit of background here. So

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Speaker 4: this is an Olympic freestyle skier by the name of

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Speaker 4: Eileen goo Okay. She was born in California, raised in America.

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Speaker 4: Her mother is Chinese, and so she has the ability

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Speaker 4: to and chooses to compete on behalf of China in

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Speaker 4: the Olympics. So she's competing for.

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Speaker 3: As she competed for the US before.

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Speaker 4: No, I don't care, so I think you can only

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01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:08,559
Speaker 4: choose to compete for one country. Okay, I might be

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01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 4: wrong either way. She represents China and freestyle skiing. I

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01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 4: in just reading up on her in this commercial break,

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Speaker 4: realized that apparently she's been a part of a lot

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Speaker 4: of controversy because of the fact that she chose to

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Speaker 4: represent China. There's been I think President Trump and Jade

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01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:27,800
Speaker 4: Vance and others have been very critical of her for

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Speaker 4: doing this. And as we know, there's a lot of

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01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:32,680
Speaker 4: stuff going on between the United States and China. But

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01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 4: so because she's so popular, she's getting a lot of attention.

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Speaker 4: On top of that, she is the most decorated female

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Speaker 4: freestyle skier in Olympic history, with multiple gold medals, and

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01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:49,560
Speaker 4: so she was asked this question yesterday, and I'm just

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01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 4: curious what you think about the question and about the answer.

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Speaker 6: Also, do you.

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Speaker 14: See these as two silvers gained or two goals lost?

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Speaker 31: I'm the most decorated free female free skier in history.

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Speaker 31: I think that's an answer in and of itself. How

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Speaker 31: do I say this? Winning a medal at the Olympics

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Speaker 31: is a life changing experience for every athlete. Doing it

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Speaker 31: five times is exponentially harder because every medal is equally

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Speaker 31: hard for me. But everybody else's expectations rise, right, And

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Speaker 31: so the two medals lost situation, to be quite frank

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Speaker 31: with you, I think is kind of a ridiculous perspective

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Speaker 31: to take. I'm showcasing my best skiing. I'm doing things

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Speaker 31: that quite literally have never been done before, and so

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Speaker 31: I think that is more than good enough.

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Speaker 4: But I mean it's pretty impressive. Yeah too.

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Speaker 3: I think it's an understanding of I think sometimes we

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Speaker 3: get caught up and just wanting Olympic gold that you

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Speaker 3: don't realize the hours, the time, the competition. I mean,

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Speaker 3: think of how many athletes in any country are working

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Speaker 3: to make the Olympic team or just have a chance

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Speaker 3: to make the Olympic team, let alone get to the

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Speaker 3: Olympic Games and then have a chance to be one

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Speaker 3: of the top three in the world at what you do?

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Speaker 4: Let me ask the me play the question again.

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Speaker 14: Also, do you see these as two silvers gained or

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Speaker 14: two goals lost?

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Speaker 5: So, like.

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Speaker 4: This reporter knows, right, she's the most decorated Olympian of

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Speaker 4: all time. Yeah, she's one of the greatest that has

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Speaker 4: ever done this sport. And you know, you talked about

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Speaker 4: the kid from Kansas the other day and about that

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Speaker 4: mentality of competitive greatness and so to me, and I

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Speaker 4: don't know. I did not know any of the political

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Speaker 4: stuff around her until literally two minutes ago. Yeah, and

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01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 4: reading it like you said, but her father. I heard

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Speaker 4: it this morning and I was like, I don't really

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Speaker 4: love that answer because I think it's a good question.

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01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 4: Where he's like, do you view this as somebody who's

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Speaker 4: been so successful? Do you view this as I got

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01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 4: two more silvers or damn I missed to miss two

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01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:10,760
Speaker 4: goals And he's asking a great athlete how their mentality

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Speaker 4: works with the results that they got. And this reporter,

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Speaker 4: I don't know who he is, I don't know where

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Speaker 4: he's from. He's kind of getting dunked on by people

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Speaker 4: across the world right now. And I don't get it

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01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:26,679
Speaker 4: because number one, if you think it's a bad question,

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01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:30,680
Speaker 4: you elicted a really good answer, and so there's no

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01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:32,519
Speaker 4: such thing as a bad question when you get a

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01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 4: good answer. And number two, she kind of answered it

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Speaker 4: in like explained where he was coming from in her answer,

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Speaker 4: And a lot of people are kind of posing it

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Speaker 4: as like this this reporter being a misogynist and she's

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Speaker 4: dunking on men and bah blah blah. I just I

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Speaker 4: thought it was a good question and a fair question,

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01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 4: and I thought she was a little bit over the

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Speaker 4: top in her response.

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Speaker 3: I think it's always going to be that everything's going

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Speaker 3: to be analyzed so many different ways. Yeah, I instead

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01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 3: of I think it's a it's a good question, I

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01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:08,799
Speaker 3: think her response tries to go a little bit deeper

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Speaker 3: into almost pushing back immediately of well, what do you

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Speaker 3: mean I'm the most decorated. But it is like there's

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Speaker 3: a difference. I mean, asked Michael Phelps, right, like the

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Speaker 3: greatest ever asked the difference to Michael Phelps of you know,

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Speaker 3: one of the most decorated or one of the best

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Speaker 3: ever to do it. There's a fine line between that.

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Speaker 4: Like I think of that famous Kobe Bryant press conference

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Speaker 4: where they were up with they were up three games, yeah,

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01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:36,759
Speaker 4: and not a smile, and they're like, he says, job's

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Speaker 4: not finished. He had played great, they had won three games,

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Speaker 4: like they're on the verge of winning the NBA Finals

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01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 4: three to zero. He says job's not finished. And we

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Speaker 4: praise Kobe for that mentality, we praise Michael for that mentality. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: we love that, And so I think him kind of

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Speaker 4: you know, asking and trying to dig into that mentality

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Speaker 4: I think is fair. I didn't love or answer. I

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01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 4: get both sides of it, but yeah, that was just

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Speaker 4: I heard that this morning and I was like, why

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Speaker 4: are people dunking on this?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: And I think probably for her everything has turned now

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01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 3: because she's again it's not like she she just up

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Speaker 3: and decided that she's not going to be competing for USA.

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01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 3: She has an American father and a Chinese mother, so

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Speaker 3: she has just as much right to compete for who

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01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 3: she wants to correct. But in this world, I think

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Speaker 3: she's probably so consumed with the backlash she's now getting

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Speaker 3: politically sure that it probably takes away a little bit of.

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Speaker 4: Probably puts her guard up. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think just to meaning Okay, well now

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01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 3: you almost feel attacked all the time. Yeah, but interesting. Nonetheless,

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Speaker 3: let's uh, there's a couple of college basketball things that

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Speaker 3: I jotted down that I want to get to as

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Speaker 3: well before we, uh, we get to our number three.

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Speaker 3: We'll do that next on this the Home of the

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Speaker 3: Bengals ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. We gotta have

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Speaker 3: some fun to welcome back since he three sixty, ESBN

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Speaker 3: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. One more segment here, and

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Speaker 3: then we'll roll into our number three loaded with guests.

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Speaker 3: Tom Gallader kicks off the hour. Bob man Jean will

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01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 3: join us from UC and Novacare. We'll expand a little

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Speaker 3: bit more on Darren Peterson, who is under a lot

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Speaker 3: of scrutiny this week. We'll actually get if there's a

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Speaker 3: side of Darren Peterson, maybe we're not understanding here. We'll

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Speaker 3: try to do that with Bob Manjen and Mowager. Of course,

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Speaker 3: we'll stop by for quick hits. All still to come

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Speaker 3: in the third and final hour. But speaking of draftable

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Speaker 3: college players, Brian Windhorst from ESPN said this Austin NBA

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01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:48,840
Speaker 3: teams we talked earlier about changing up the NBA draft right.

1514
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:52,720
Speaker 3: NBA teams have said they would be willing to pay

1515
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 3: up to one hundred million dollars for the number one

1516
01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 3: pick if it were allowed.

1517
01:18:57,760 --> 01:18:58,320
Speaker 4: Said quote.

1518
01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 3: I had an executive tell me that the number one

1519
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 3: pick this year would be worth one hundred million if

1520
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 3: you gave the opportunity to buy the pick. Teams would

1521
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 3: pay one hundred million for it. Wow, he said, keep

1522
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 3: that in mind because the Jazz were just fined five

1523
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 3: hundred thousand for tanking. Right, could you imagine a lottery

1524
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 3: system in that way? All right, number one pick goes

1525
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 3: to the highest bidder. Wow, where would the money go?

1526
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 3: That's that's what was my follow up question. Not so

1527
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 3: I like to what do you do with the money.

1528
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:31,680
Speaker 4: I'm sure the Players Association is interested in it. What

1529
01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:34,519
Speaker 4: do you do with the money? Oh? Man, that's a

1530
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:36,880
Speaker 4: I have no idea. Never even consider something like that,

1531
01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 4: crazy though, right, Yeah, one hundred million, but just goes

1532
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:43,840
Speaker 4: to show how much they value it. And if that's

1533
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:46,559
Speaker 4: the case, heay, with losing games, who do they view

1534
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 4: as that one hundred million dollar man? Good question, Bruce Thornton.

1535
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 3: Probably I saw this as well, and I feel bad

1536
01:19:56,960 --> 01:20:01,680
Speaker 3: because I like Penny Hardaway. Did you see it all

1537
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 3: yesterday Penny Hardaway's postgame press conference. No, he was crying. Oh,

1538
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:12,760
Speaker 3: he was moved to tears.

1539
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 6: Been there.

1540
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 3: They lost to USF. It is their third straight loss,

1541
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 3: and it was a loss in which it unraveled. They

1542
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 3: didn't lose by a small margin. They lost eighty seven

1543
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:27,920
Speaker 3: to sixty six. Memphis is seven and six in the

1544
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:31,759
Speaker 3: American Athletic conference, there are twelve and fourteen overall. Penny

1545
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:36,519
Speaker 3: Hardaway said, quote, I wanted the game, bro. He took

1546
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 3: a long moment to gather himself. He just said, I

1547
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:42,559
Speaker 3: just want the game and was kind of hitting his

1548
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 3: hands on the table. And it's clearly a distraught Penny Hardaway.

1549
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 3: It's the first year under Penny at Memphis that they

1550
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 3: they're not going to get twenty wins. It's the second

1551
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 3: time in three years that they're probably not going to

1552
01:20:57,000 --> 01:21:00,680
Speaker 3: make the NCAAAA tournament. What do you make not just

1553
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 3: Penny itself Austin, What a week it's been for college

1554
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:09,240
Speaker 3: basketball coaches. Right, Jerome Tang was let go, Mick Cronin

1555
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:10,919
Speaker 3: had his meltdown.

1556
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:13,240
Speaker 4: I just saw that Mick Cronin is like met with

1557
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:16,719
Speaker 4: the media at UCLA and apparently apologized to the player

1558
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:20,120
Speaker 4: from Michigan State that he was talking to, But it

1559
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:22,479
Speaker 4: does not appear he has apologized to the reporter.

1560
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:26,280
Speaker 3: But like we've seen this, We saw Andy Kennedy kind

1561
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:27,760
Speaker 3: of go at as players earlier in the week because

1562
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:29,479
Speaker 3: they were ten to twenty two from layups.

1563
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:32,320
Speaker 4: It is just it's.

1564
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 3: To me, I feel like now more than ever, we're

1565
01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 3: seeing the weight that these college basketball coaches are carrying,

1566
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:43,200
Speaker 3: and it feels like it's breaking some of them. And

1567
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's if this is a penny

1568
01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:48,559
Speaker 3: Hardaway that feels like his job is now in jeopardy,

1569
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:51,240
Speaker 3: which it very well could be. I also think there's

1570
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:53,280
Speaker 3: something to it as well, though, because now as a

1571
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 3: college coach, you're not just dealing with the athletes. Who

1572
01:21:57,400 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 3: else are you dealing with the donor?

1573
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 5: Right?

1574
01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 3: You get these guys that are paying millions of dollars

1575
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:06,639
Speaker 3: to your program. You don't think you're having to answer

1576
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 3: to them too. You don't think you have to asking

1577
01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:11,479
Speaker 3: these these donors or I just I gave you two

1578
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:14,439
Speaker 3: million dollars. What's that being used for? We're twelve and

1579
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:18,679
Speaker 3: fourteen on the year. I just I feel like, and again,

1580
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:22,680
Speaker 3: coaches are compensated really well, but I feel like this year,

1581
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:26,320
Speaker 3: more than ever, we are seeing the grind that this

1582
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:29,920
Speaker 3: era of college basketball is starting to have on coaches.

1583
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 3: I mean, as whatever you think of Bill self, I

1584
01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:36,720
Speaker 3: think you could take away earlier in the week from

1585
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:38,920
Speaker 3: Bill self, but he was kind of struggling in the

1586
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:41,559
Speaker 3: postgame press conference, like I don't know what to do

1587
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 3: at this point. I just feel like it's a unique

1588
01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 3: time in collegiance sports and in college basketball itself. Because

1589
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:52,840
Speaker 3: I mentioned earlier, you've seen coaches that have just kind

1590
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 3: of said, you know, screw it, I'm out, I'm done,

1591
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 3: I'm walking away. You've seen coaches that embraced it. You've

1592
01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:01,680
Speaker 3: seen coaches that try, like Dabo Sweeney just tries not

1593
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:04,400
Speaker 3: to even mess with the trans But it's just I

1594
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:07,400
Speaker 3: feel like the weight of all that is starting to

1595
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 3: weigh on some of these guys.

1596
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 4: I mean, Penny.

1597
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:15,640
Speaker 3: Hardaway unbelievable NBA career, injuries plagued him, has done a

1598
01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:17,880
Speaker 3: good job at Memphis, never really got over the hump.

1599
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 3: But you just see I mean, we saw it with

1600
01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:23,880
Speaker 3: Wes Miller earlier in the year. We've seen it here

1601
01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:28,080
Speaker 3: locally with Richard Patino not breaking down mentally, but amongst

1602
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 3: the season where they're hovering right around five hundred. Richard

1603
01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 3: Patino's going on his radio show and saying, we need

1604
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:36,840
Speaker 3: more money. If you want to get this turned around,

1605
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 3: we need this. He's he's openly honest. I just I

1606
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:41,920
Speaker 3: don't know if I like it. I don't know if

1607
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:45,960
Speaker 3: I hate it, but it's interesting. Nonetheless, kind of what's

1608
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 3: happening in men's and women's collegiate sports right now and

1609
01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 3: kind of what we're seeing because of it at the

1610
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:56,240
Speaker 3: college basketball ranks. It's what a crazy week it's been

1611
01:23:56,240 --> 01:24:01,719
Speaker 3: in college basketball. We've still got one full hour remaining

1612
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:06,439
Speaker 3: on this show. Tom Gallader will preview, Well, we'll look

1613
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:10,679
Speaker 3: back at a four nil victory over the last couple

1614
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:13,040
Speaker 3: of days. We'll look ahead to Atlanta coming into TQL

1615
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:15,720
Speaker 3: Stadium for a unique four to forty five start tomorrow.

1616
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 3: Bob man Jean will join us before they take off

1617
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:21,559
Speaker 3: to Kansas to talk about cramping and the issues that

1618
01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 3: that could cause throughout the body, and of course Bob

1619
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:27,519
Speaker 3: man Moegar we'll stand by to join us ahead of

1620
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 3: the Mowagar Show. It's all still ahead right here on

1621
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 3: the Home of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports

1622
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 3: Station Network is.

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01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:38,400
Speaker 1: Tony Pike, Cincy three sixty about Cincinnati.

1624
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:44,679
Speaker 2: From Cincinnati. This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:48,080
Speaker 4: Welcome back, Happy Friday.

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Speaker 3: Hour three continues and let's get it started in a

1627
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:54,439
Speaker 3: big way. FC Cincinnati got their season off on the

1628
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 3: right foot with a four nil victory in the Conka

1629
01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:01,840
Speaker 3: CAF Cup. I don't think you could ask for a

1630
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 3: better way to start a season. And now you turn

1631
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:07,880
Speaker 3: that around and it feels like the season almost just ended.

1632
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:11,840
Speaker 3: And now MLS play returns to TQL Stadium tomorrow at

1633
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 3: four forty five. Let's talk to the voice of the

1634
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:18,280
Speaker 3: Orange and Blue, Tom Gallaird, are joining us right now, Tommy, Tommy, Tommy,

1635
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:19,200
Speaker 3: what's going on?

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01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:23,840
Speaker 32: Tony, Tony, Tony, Happy Friday here. We are ready to

1637
01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:26,160
Speaker 32: start the Major League Soccer season. Like you said, a really.

1638
01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:28,080
Speaker 5: Strong effort from the.

1639
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:31,120
Speaker 32: Guys in the win on Wednesday night down into the

1640
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:34,639
Speaker 32: Dominican Republic, and I thought it was professional wins, kind

1641
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:36,240
Speaker 32: of what we called in the postgame show, that the

1642
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 32: team did the right things and got four goals from

1643
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:41,240
Speaker 32: the strikers and dispatched to.

1644
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:43,639
Speaker 5: O and M and leg one will see him again

1645
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:44,360
Speaker 5: on Wednesday night.

1646
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:49,320
Speaker 32: But it also pass the well versus their concerned and

1647
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:50,680
Speaker 32: heading into this Atlanta.

1648
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:54,799
Speaker 3: Man, How important is what you just described a professional start?

1649
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 3: Because every year you're going to go through a unique offseason,

1650
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:01,080
Speaker 3: You're going to have players that leave, you're going to

1651
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:03,840
Speaker 3: have additions, and a lot of times it can feel

1652
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:05,280
Speaker 3: clunky at the start of the season.

1653
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 4: How important was.

1654
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:09,880
Speaker 3: It, as you described, to go and get a professional

1655
01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 3: win on Wednesday night.

1656
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 32: Yeah, well, you know, I think we starked about it

1657
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:15,559
Speaker 32: last week, the continuity right of the team and what

1658
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:17,680
Speaker 32: that has meant in the preseason. Pat really hit that

1659
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 32: nail on the head when we talked leading into and.

1660
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:24,960
Speaker 5: I think we saw some of the things that continuity.

1661
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 5: I think.

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01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:29,439
Speaker 33: Because he was able to play the guys that he

1663
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 33: did and had this really busy schedule with four matches

1664
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:38,639
Speaker 33: and open season, it sets up to be able to.

1665
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:40,719
Speaker 32: Put a strong line out out in the season opener.

1666
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 32: You know, listen, you want to go down there make

1667
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:44,800
Speaker 32: sure you win, so that sets up your second leg

1668
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:46,719
Speaker 32: and the return of TQ I'll say him on Wednesday,

1669
01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 32: and you're securing the opportunity to advance to the tournament.

1670
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:51,639
Speaker 5: You also don't want to.

1671
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:53,639
Speaker 32: Do it at the expense of your home opener, first

1672
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 32: road game and begins in playing four games twelve days.

1673
01:26:57,320 --> 01:27:00,760
Speaker 32: So I think that the way uptition and the player

1674
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:05,160
Speaker 32: availability really worked out flavor and did in a professional way,

1675
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:08,120
Speaker 32: and you got took care of business. Sad you can

1676
01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 32: have took you guys.

1677
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 3: Okay, So Tommy, you you then turned the page and

1678
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:16,640
Speaker 3: now it's all of a sudden the MLS opener and

1679
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:20,280
Speaker 3: coming to TQO Stadium is a team in Atlanta who

1680
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:22,800
Speaker 3: did not have a great year last year when you

1681
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:25,160
Speaker 3: look at the final standings near the bottom of the league.

1682
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:28,640
Speaker 3: How difficult does it become when it's early in the

1683
01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:31,519
Speaker 3: season to not have a ton of information or maybe

1684
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:34,360
Speaker 3: not know how a team is going to start a

1685
01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:37,519
Speaker 3: year differently? Obviously, when you don't finish the way they

1686
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 3: wanted to in Atlanta, you've got to make some changes.

1687
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:42,479
Speaker 3: So how do you prepare for a team when you

1688
01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:44,679
Speaker 3: may not know fully what's coming in?

1689
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:47,559
Speaker 32: Yeah, I think it's a it's a fair question, Tony,

1690
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:49,679
Speaker 32: but I'll tell you that's much. There's a lot more

1691
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:51,560
Speaker 32: inform on Atlanta and I did then there was on

1692
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:55,519
Speaker 32: Oen MSc. I told someone yesterday that at Owen MSc

1693
01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:59,160
Speaker 32: rostered I was the least information I've ever had on

1694
01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:03,559
Speaker 32: the team in eleven years of preparing for these matches.

1695
01:28:03,640 --> 01:28:06,639
Speaker 32: So that said, I think they probably have decent information

1696
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:08,800
Speaker 32: on Atlanta. Granted, the didn't make the playoffs last year

1697
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:10,840
Speaker 32: and they fired the coach, but they brought in their

1698
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:13,559
Speaker 32: previous coach, Tota Martino, who they won twenty eight MLS

1699
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:16,400
Speaker 32: Cup with. So I think people know what to expect

1700
01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:18,000
Speaker 32: from Tota Martino, and I think there's a lot of

1701
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 32: talent on this Atlanta team. Remember they brought in a

1702
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 32: manual lot a lot last year and his transfer fee

1703
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:27,519
Speaker 32: was the head of the one that actually Cincinnati spent

1704
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:31,040
Speaker 32: for Kevin Dank and Lotelot had six goals and for

1705
01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:33,520
Speaker 32: the money that they spent on him, that was really disappointing.

1706
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:36,320
Speaker 32: So I think that it's really important, you know, if

1707
01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:38,759
Speaker 32: you're an Atlanta United fan, that you're expecting Toata Martino

1708
01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:41,640
Speaker 32: to find a way to unlock him, because I think

1709
01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:43,800
Speaker 32: there's good talent on that team. It's just a matter

1710
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:46,880
Speaker 32: of how can Tanta Martino put him in a group

1711
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 32: that they he gets the.

1712
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:49,479
Speaker 4: Best out of them and what does that look like?

1713
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:52,720
Speaker 32: So I think that's the biggest question that everybody's kind

1714
01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:55,639
Speaker 32: of kind of be holding their breath as they figured out.

1715
01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 5: Atlanta.

1716
01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:58,639
Speaker 32: Look, Cincinnati is gonna have a strong lineup. I think

1717
01:28:58,640 --> 01:29:01,439
Speaker 32: that they are going to take care of themselves first

1718
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:03,760
Speaker 32: and foremost. But I think they'll have enough information on

1719
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:04,559
Speaker 32: Landy United.

1720
01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:07,639
Speaker 3: That they'll be pretty prepared for those that maybe didn't

1721
01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:10,800
Speaker 3: catch Wednesday night, and tomorrow will be the first chance

1722
01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:13,719
Speaker 3: they have to see this team, the twenty twenty sixth

1723
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 3: version of FC Cincinnati in action. Is there a glaring

1724
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:19,680
Speaker 3: difference in the style of play or the personnel in

1725
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:22,439
Speaker 3: which they're gonna use that will be different to those

1726
01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:24,920
Speaker 3: that watched last year compared to watching this year.

1727
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:27,240
Speaker 32: No, I don't think that there's going to be a

1728
01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:29,599
Speaker 32: glaring difference at this point. And we'll wait to see

1729
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 32: exactly what the lineup card looks like when you know,

1730
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 32: Pat Newton turns it in tomorrow. But I know that

1731
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:37,160
Speaker 32: they've tried some new philosophies here through the preseason and

1732
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:40,080
Speaker 32: been working on, you know, some different things in the

1733
01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:42,880
Speaker 32: attack to get more out of their attacking players. And

1734
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:44,920
Speaker 32: they got four goals from their strikers in the game

1735
01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:47,240
Speaker 32: on Wednesday night, grant against the lesser team than what

1736
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:48,880
Speaker 32: they're going to see tomorrow.

1737
01:29:49,080 --> 01:29:51,000
Speaker 5: But there is going to be, you know.

1738
01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:52,679
Speaker 32: Some new player or there will be some new players

1739
01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:54,040
Speaker 32: potentially out on the pitch.

1740
01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:55,439
Speaker 5: You know, Brian Beers came off.

1741
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:58,720
Speaker 32: It happened that we think that bat Nowtanon wants to

1742
01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:03,240
Speaker 32: start him again in this match. On Saturday Atlanta. Brian

1743
01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:05,280
Speaker 32: I thought it was very good in the forty five

1744
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 32: minutes they played out at left wing back, and I

1745
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:08,840
Speaker 32: think it's a player that exist and Sunni fans are

1746
01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:11,600
Speaker 32: going to be really excited about. So, you know, I

1747
01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:14,519
Speaker 32: think that that is a piece of the puzzle in

1748
01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:17,760
Speaker 32: seeing Brian Ramirez and how he utilized and then you know,

1749
01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:20,040
Speaker 32: I think the other question is who is sliding in

1750
01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:22,760
Speaker 32: next to Kevin Danka when they play with two strikers.

1751
01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:25,759
Speaker 32: As we saw on Wednesday night. You know, Tom Barlow

1752
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:28,600
Speaker 32: started and he got he got the first goal of

1753
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:30,720
Speaker 32: the season, his first going Orange and Blue. And then

1754
01:30:30,720 --> 01:30:32,760
Speaker 32: Ayub Jabari, who he saw five times in the regular

1755
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:35,360
Speaker 32: season last year, he had a big assist in the playoffs,

1756
01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:37,760
Speaker 32: he comes in late and gets two goals. So you

1757
01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:40,360
Speaker 32: had the opportunity, you know, to see a couple of

1758
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:41,880
Speaker 32: different guys, and I think there's gonna be a good

1759
01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:45,360
Speaker 32: competition there alongside Kevin Danka. But I don't think overall

1760
01:30:45,439 --> 01:30:47,559
Speaker 32: all like the tactics are going to be wildly different

1761
01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:48,200
Speaker 32: or the formation.

1762
01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:49,000
Speaker 5: It'll be.

1763
01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:51,559
Speaker 32: More so some tweaks in philosophy and what they're trying

1764
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:52,920
Speaker 32: to do in that final third.

1765
01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:56,599
Speaker 3: Has anything in the offseason happened or just less ross

1766
01:30:56,680 --> 01:30:58,519
Speaker 3: or overturned than maybe we said me, you go back

1767
01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:02,839
Speaker 3: to last year, you're replacing Luciano Acosta in an MLS MVP.

1768
01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:06,040
Speaker 3: You're not having to do that this offseason. And I

1769
01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:08,479
Speaker 3: think when you look at the long season of the

1770
01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:12,040
Speaker 3: MLS season becomes there were just times last year where

1771
01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:14,040
Speaker 3: it felt like a roller coaster, you know, a lot

1772
01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:17,559
Speaker 3: of highs, some low some laws that that that this

1773
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:20,360
Speaker 3: team were kind of plagued with. How do you avoid

1774
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:22,720
Speaker 3: that over the course of such a long season. There

1775
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:26,320
Speaker 3: are going to be some dips, but the consistency aspect

1776
01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:28,920
Speaker 3: of of what they can do maybe with with not

1777
01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:30,880
Speaker 3: as much overturning the offseason.

1778
01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:34,240
Speaker 32: I think probably it starts with depth, right, and I

1779
01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:36,040
Speaker 32: think that a lot of that depth is there. There's

1780
01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:38,400
Speaker 32: great depth at center back position. Look, we saw Andre

1781
01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:40,639
Speaker 32: Driilla called in from the two team on Wednesday night,

1782
01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:44,880
Speaker 32: and I thought he shined fantastic, you know, fantastically through

1783
01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:47,160
Speaker 32: through the night and minutes that he played out on

1784
01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:49,120
Speaker 32: the pitch, you know, and he is a short term

1785
01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:50,759
Speaker 32: agreement to come up and join.

1786
01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:51,160
Speaker 5: The first team.

1787
01:31:51,320 --> 01:31:53,960
Speaker 32: So I think there's competition at center back We know

1788
01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:56,840
Speaker 32: that there's there's competition in the defensive midfield. You had

1789
01:31:57,240 --> 01:32:01,599
Speaker 32: Gidy Buca, Blowodo, all great options. If you're starting two

1790
01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:04,360
Speaker 32: defensive midfielders, as usually the case cent er Pat Noonan,

1791
01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:06,960
Speaker 32: one of those guys is out, and who are you seeing.

1792
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:10,439
Speaker 32: It's a really tough situation. Now, there's a lot of

1793
01:32:10,439 --> 01:32:12,519
Speaker 32: minutes here, like I said at the top of the interview,

1794
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:16,320
Speaker 32: to start the season, So guys will play, but decisions

1795
01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:17,840
Speaker 32: will have to be made. But that means that you know,

1796
01:32:17,880 --> 01:32:19,840
Speaker 32: whoever's left out gonna you know, he's gonna be pushing

1797
01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:22,000
Speaker 32: in training to tell coach, hey, you shouldn't left me out,

1798
01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:23,840
Speaker 32: and I should be in for the next one, and

1799
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:25,720
Speaker 32: on after that and so on and so forth. So

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01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:29,240
Speaker 32: I think that we'll see great competition. And then the

1801
01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:31,400
Speaker 32: striker position, like I was talking about, you know who

1802
01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:34,720
Speaker 32: is that second striker alongside Kevin Danka. Kevin Dank is

1803
01:32:34,760 --> 01:32:37,400
Speaker 32: going to start. I feel pretty good about that. Who

1804
01:32:37,439 --> 01:32:39,280
Speaker 32: will be next to him, will be Ayu Jabari, will

1805
01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:42,000
Speaker 32: be Tom Barlow, will be somebody else. That's what's to

1806
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:44,519
Speaker 32: be determined, and I think exciting to figure out.

1807
01:32:45,160 --> 01:32:47,280
Speaker 3: We had We had Joe Daneman on the show earlier

1808
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:49,920
Speaker 3: in the week talking about red spring training, and Joe

1809
01:32:50,040 --> 01:32:53,360
Speaker 3: mentioned that just being around the team leading up to

1810
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:56,240
Speaker 3: where they're getting to, you could sense a way in

1811
01:32:56,280 --> 01:32:58,960
Speaker 3: which they carried themselves that felt different. And I wonder

1812
01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:02,799
Speaker 3: that with FC sense And because you've been at the bottom,

1813
01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:05,720
Speaker 3: you've been right there near the top, you've been within

1814
01:33:05,840 --> 01:33:08,880
Speaker 3: striking distance of an MLS Cup, they've won the Supporter Shield.

1815
01:33:09,479 --> 01:33:12,400
Speaker 3: When when this team was preparing and you're around the

1816
01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:17,320
Speaker 3: club getting set to start a long season, do you

1817
01:33:17,439 --> 01:33:19,799
Speaker 3: sense a difference in the way this team carries themselves?

1818
01:33:19,880 --> 01:33:20,080
Speaker 4: Don't?

1819
01:33:20,080 --> 01:33:22,479
Speaker 3: I don't know that it's a confidence, but uh uh

1820
01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:25,080
Speaker 3: an idea of we know the work we need to do,

1821
01:33:25,160 --> 01:33:27,040
Speaker 3: we know what's ahead of us, we know what an

1822
01:33:27,040 --> 01:33:29,640
Speaker 3: inner Miami can can bring and and where that is.

1823
01:33:29,680 --> 01:33:32,680
Speaker 3: Do you sense that differently with this team going into

1824
01:33:32,680 --> 01:33:33,160
Speaker 3: this season?

1825
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:37,040
Speaker 32: I mean, I think that there is a confidence in

1826
01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:39,599
Speaker 32: the way that the team prepared to the preseason, and

1827
01:33:39,680 --> 01:33:42,360
Speaker 32: that there is that connuity that we've talked about so much,

1828
01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:44,840
Speaker 32: and that they had the preseason and a drama three

1829
01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:45,840
Speaker 32: unlike last year.

1830
01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:48,439
Speaker 5: And I think that those.

1831
01:33:48,240 --> 01:33:51,200
Speaker 32: Are all factors that pay big, big dividends in that

1832
01:33:51,360 --> 01:33:54,240
Speaker 32: dressing room, and I think the team is hungry because

1833
01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:56,559
Speaker 32: if you're successful for fourth eight years but you fall

1834
01:33:56,640 --> 01:34:00,360
Speaker 32: short of that ultimate goal of winning MLS Cup, start

1835
01:34:00,439 --> 01:34:02,200
Speaker 32: you know, maybe scratch your head and being like what else?

1836
01:34:02,200 --> 01:34:03,479
Speaker 5: What else do we have to do? How do we

1837
01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:03,800
Speaker 5: get there?

1838
01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:05,559
Speaker 32: I think it was Alvias Powell Well made a comment,

1839
01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:08,120
Speaker 32: you know, last week or so it's time, it's time

1840
01:34:08,160 --> 01:34:10,920
Speaker 32: to bring a championship to Cincinnati, considering all the time

1841
01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:12,960
Speaker 32: that he has spent with the team. So I think

1842
01:34:13,160 --> 01:34:16,400
Speaker 32: that's the biggest factor in figuring out how do you

1843
01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:19,320
Speaker 32: fit and how do you help this team?

1844
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:21,559
Speaker 5: And then there's a pretty big hunger in that dressing room.

1845
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:25,479
Speaker 3: The reta ultimate goal if if you could, if you

1846
01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:29,080
Speaker 3: could take one or two big keys for tomorrow against

1847
01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:31,240
Speaker 3: Atlanta to get get started off the right way. What

1848
01:34:31,240 --> 01:34:33,840
Speaker 3: do you think those are to walk away with three points?

1849
01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:37,639
Speaker 32: I think the biggest Tony is just sticking to your

1850
01:34:37,720 --> 01:34:38,320
Speaker 32: game plan.

1851
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:39,400
Speaker 5: And this is you.

1852
01:34:39,560 --> 01:34:42,400
Speaker 32: You're joining the TQO settium right. At times, TQOS Teaum

1853
01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:44,880
Speaker 32: has been a fortress and at times, you know, unfortunately

1854
01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:46,760
Speaker 32: in some of that form that we saw, you know,

1855
01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:48,759
Speaker 32: going back twenty twenty three when they won the supporter

1856
01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:52,479
Speaker 32: Shield was lost. So I think that it's okay, you're

1857
01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:54,960
Speaker 32: coming into our house. You're gonna play our game. We're

1858
01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:59,000
Speaker 32: gonna you know, uh, we're gonna make a statement early.

1859
01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:01,240
Speaker 32: You get an early goal, will take advantage built that

1860
01:35:01,360 --> 01:35:05,240
Speaker 32: crowd and that energy, and then be strong in the

1861
01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:08,799
Speaker 32: areas you know you're really good. And be strong defensively,

1862
01:35:08,840 --> 01:35:11,400
Speaker 32: be strong in the defensive midfield. You know, let Evander

1863
01:35:11,400 --> 01:35:13,720
Speaker 32: and Denkeny and whoever the other striker is do their

1864
01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:18,519
Speaker 32: thing and play FC Cincinnati pat noon and soccer. And

1865
01:35:18,600 --> 01:35:20,920
Speaker 32: if they do that, they're gonna put themselves in a

1866
01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:21,439
Speaker 32: position to.

1867
01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:21,880
Speaker 5: Win the game.

1868
01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:25,760
Speaker 3: Lastly, before we let you go, Tommy, TQL Stadium at

1869
01:35:25,760 --> 01:35:29,720
Speaker 3: times since its inception has been a fortress for FC Cincinnati.

1870
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:32,799
Speaker 3: Last year, the season ended on a sour note. Miami

1871
01:35:33,439 --> 01:35:37,400
Speaker 3: beats FC Cincinnati for nothing and on their home turf,

1872
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:41,160
Speaker 3: no less So going into this year, how important is

1873
01:35:41,200 --> 01:35:45,160
Speaker 3: it to get back to that dominance at TQL Stadium

1874
01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:46,600
Speaker 3: for FC Cincinnati.

1875
01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:48,519
Speaker 32: Well, I think it's really important if you want to

1876
01:35:48,520 --> 01:35:50,240
Speaker 32: win a supporters Shield. If you win a support shield,

1877
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:51,559
Speaker 32: such you have for the best chance to win them

1878
01:35:51,640 --> 01:35:54,320
Speaker 32: Lst Cup. You know, then you need to have the

1879
01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:55,720
Speaker 32: port trasci. You need to play like you did in

1880
01:35:55,720 --> 01:35:57,880
Speaker 32: twenty twenty three at home. A couple of those home

1881
01:35:57,920 --> 01:36:02,200
Speaker 32: results slip last year that completely changes things, right then

1882
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:05,280
Speaker 32: then all of a sudden, you win the supply, then

1883
01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:07,360
Speaker 32: jump ahead of the good Helia give you a different seed,

1884
01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:09,639
Speaker 32: and who knows what happens in the playoffs from there.

1885
01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:12,280
Speaker 32: But no, I think you know, listen to fans have

1886
01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:15,200
Speaker 32: been unbelievable for every year of this club around you know,

1887
01:36:15,280 --> 01:36:18,280
Speaker 32: celebrated ten years all last year. They will be loud,

1888
01:36:18,280 --> 01:36:20,320
Speaker 32: the energy will be awesome tomorrow as they kick off

1889
01:36:20,360 --> 01:36:24,160
Speaker 32: season number eleven at home, and I really think we will

1890
01:36:24,160 --> 01:36:24,800
Speaker 32: feed off of that.

1891
01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:27,120
Speaker 5: And listen, you get a win in your home opener

1892
01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:28,160
Speaker 5: and then you go from there.

1893
01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:32,559
Speaker 3: Tom Galltder, the Voice of FC Cincinnati, first class all

1894
01:36:32,560 --> 01:36:35,519
Speaker 3: the way Today, Tommy, we appreciate your time, good luck

1895
01:36:35,560 --> 01:36:37,679
Speaker 3: this weekend, and we'll talk again next week.

1896
01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:41,599
Speaker 32: Ice here for you always appreciate it. And yeah, let's

1897
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:42,720
Speaker 32: have a great weekend and talk too.

1898
01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:43,120
Speaker 5: There.

1899
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:45,800
Speaker 3: He is Tom Galltder, Tommy, Tommy, Tommy, the voice of

1900
01:36:45,880 --> 01:36:48,519
Speaker 3: FC Cincinnati. We'll be back. We've got Bob man Gen

1901
01:36:48,600 --> 01:36:51,639
Speaker 3: and our number three as well. You see novacare rep

1902
01:36:52,280 --> 01:36:54,880
Speaker 3: helping us with some injury questions along the way here

1903
01:36:54,880 --> 01:36:56,559
Speaker 3: on this Friday afternoon on the home of the Bengals

1904
01:36:56,600 --> 01:36:58,880
Speaker 3: of ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1905
01:36:59,080 --> 01:37:04,040
Speaker 1: Would it possible said, welcome back, rolling along I renumber

1906
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:08,000
Speaker 1: three since he three sixty ESBN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1907
01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:09,960
Speaker 3: It's that time on a Friday afternoon to check in

1908
01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:13,880
Speaker 3: with our Nova Care and University of Cincinnati athletic trainer

1909
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:16,200
Speaker 3: Bob Manjean, who is kind enough to join us each

1910
01:37:16,280 --> 01:37:17,120
Speaker 3: and every week.

1911
01:37:17,479 --> 01:37:18,360
Speaker 4: Bob, what's going on?

1912
01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:20,280
Speaker 14: Go?

1913
01:37:20,400 --> 01:37:23,519
Speaker 7: You're just getting ready to leave for Kansas, and you know,

1914
01:37:23,840 --> 01:37:26,479
Speaker 7: got a big game tomorrow out there in Lawrence with

1915
01:37:26,680 --> 01:37:30,200
Speaker 7: the University of Kansas, and hopefully it'll all go well.

1916
01:37:31,120 --> 01:37:34,479
Speaker 3: It is a huge opportunity and a big time opponent

1917
01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:37,639
Speaker 3: in a big time atmosphere, and a player for Kansas

1918
01:37:37,840 --> 01:37:39,960
Speaker 3: has been in the news all week, Darren Peterson, the

1919
01:37:40,040 --> 01:37:43,760
Speaker 3: star freshman from Kansas, who played just eighteen minutes in

1920
01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:47,360
Speaker 3: his last game scored twenty three points. But it's been

1921
01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:50,160
Speaker 3: an ongoing issue with Darren Peterson. He's had multiple issues

1922
01:37:50,160 --> 01:37:52,479
Speaker 3: throughout issues throughout the year. One of those issues. Bob

1923
01:37:52,960 --> 01:37:55,840
Speaker 3: has been cramping, and I think to the average fan,

1924
01:37:55,880 --> 01:37:58,520
Speaker 3: you look and say, okay, cramping, just pump them with fluids.

1925
01:37:58,680 --> 01:38:01,840
Speaker 3: Cramping shouldn't be an on going problem. But for Darren

1926
01:38:01,840 --> 01:38:05,040
Speaker 3: Peterson it's not the first time they've talked about cramping.

1927
01:38:05,880 --> 01:38:08,439
Speaker 3: What is the difference in maybe what he's going through

1928
01:38:08,479 --> 01:38:12,320
Speaker 3: potentially or how they're getting him ready that cramps can

1929
01:38:12,360 --> 01:38:14,800
Speaker 3: still become a problem.

1930
01:38:15,160 --> 01:38:18,040
Speaker 7: Well again, Tony, and you played, and you know what

1931
01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:22,800
Speaker 7: cramps feel like and how the best manage them. For

1932
01:38:22,960 --> 01:38:27,480
Speaker 7: certain kids who have chronic cramping, we need some physiological

1933
01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:31,120
Speaker 7: testing to find out, you know, is it lactate acid,

1934
01:38:31,360 --> 01:38:36,879
Speaker 7: is it carb depletion, is it you know, intermuscular issues,

1935
01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:41,479
Speaker 7: so that there are options to look at from testing

1936
01:38:41,560 --> 01:38:44,920
Speaker 7: standpoint to try to figure out the real cause.

1937
01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:45,320
Speaker 5: Of the cramping.

1938
01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:48,040
Speaker 7: You know, we do a lot of spend a lot

1939
01:38:48,040 --> 01:38:51,960
Speaker 7: of time in the preseason when we're practicing and trying

1940
01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:56,400
Speaker 7: to evaluate our kids to say which ones are heavy sweaters.

1941
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Speaker 7: You know, this kid might be a heavy sweater for

1942
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Speaker 7: all you know. And then you're right, it's a lot

1943
01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:04,120
Speaker 7: of fluid replacement more than it is anything else. And

1944
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Speaker 7: then there are a lot of different type of products

1945
01:39:07,040 --> 01:39:10,040
Speaker 7: you can use to prevent cramping. We have a couple

1946
01:39:10,120 --> 01:39:12,519
Speaker 7: guys on our team who you know, who have the

1947
01:39:12,640 --> 01:39:16,320
Speaker 7: tendency to cramp because of their heavy sweating, but through

1948
01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:18,919
Speaker 7: the course of the game we change what we hydrate

1949
01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:21,760
Speaker 7: them with in order to try to prevent them from

1950
01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:24,479
Speaker 7: having cramps. Because it's one of the worst feelings for

1951
01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:28,280
Speaker 7: a trainer to have to walk up to a head

1952
01:39:28,280 --> 01:39:30,400
Speaker 7: coach and say, hey, we just lost so and so

1953
01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:34,439
Speaker 7: because we can't control as cramping. So again, we work

1954
01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:37,559
Speaker 7: really hard in the preseason to identify the kids who

1955
01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:42,120
Speaker 7: you know, maybe the heavy sweaters or some other you know,

1956
01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:47,080
Speaker 7: nutritional problem. Everybody's got nutritionists. Now we've got a really

1957
01:39:47,080 --> 01:39:49,960
Speaker 7: good one that works with us and Dylan Freeze. It

1958
01:39:50,040 --> 01:39:53,320
Speaker 7: works closely with us to look at, you know, our deficiencies,

1959
01:39:53,479 --> 01:39:57,360
Speaker 7: Vitamin B, vitamin D, three deficiencies, you.

1960
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Speaker 5: Know, and just try to.

1961
01:39:59,200 --> 01:40:01,240
Speaker 7: Figure it out so that you're not in the middle

1962
01:40:01,240 --> 01:40:03,200
Speaker 7: of the game and all of a sudden you got

1963
01:40:03,200 --> 01:40:04,680
Speaker 7: the kids saying, hey, I got to come out of

1964
01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:06,120
Speaker 7: the game because I got cramps.

1965
01:40:06,280 --> 01:40:08,800
Speaker 3: And it's again we hear cramps and we think of, well,

1966
01:40:08,840 --> 01:40:10,880
Speaker 3: you just got to hydrate better. But there are so

1967
01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:15,240
Speaker 3: many other instances where I'm sure Kansas is doing everything

1968
01:40:15,320 --> 01:40:18,400
Speaker 3: possible off the court to make sure that he's hydrating,

1969
01:40:18,400 --> 01:40:21,559
Speaker 3: but there are so many other factors that go into

1970
01:40:21,640 --> 01:40:24,240
Speaker 3: it that may not be found yet or may not

1971
01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:27,600
Speaker 3: be as controllable, which lead to those cramping issues that

1972
01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:30,400
Speaker 3: we've seen now multiple times in a game from Darren.

1973
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Speaker 7: Peterson, Well, the trader from University Kansas is outstanding. You know,

1974
01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:38,280
Speaker 7: Bill's in there for a long time, he's he's done

1975
01:40:38,320 --> 01:40:40,880
Speaker 7: basketball for a long time. He knows exactly, you know,

1976
01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:43,880
Speaker 7: what he's doing. Here's the thing, though, in the college environment,

1977
01:40:44,120 --> 01:40:46,240
Speaker 7: you can't control every factor with the kids.

1978
01:40:46,479 --> 01:40:48,519
Speaker 4: Sure, did they you know, eat right.

1979
01:40:48,439 --> 01:40:51,400
Speaker 7: The night before, did they get their rest? Did they

1980
01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:53,800
Speaker 7: hydrate the night before? Because you know, I can pump

1981
01:40:53,840 --> 01:40:56,840
Speaker 7: you all full of fluids right before the game or

1982
01:40:56,840 --> 01:40:58,840
Speaker 7: when you come in for walk through, but you know,

1983
01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:01,639
Speaker 7: when I'm going through this stomach, it takes a while

1984
01:41:01,680 --> 01:41:05,960
Speaker 7: for that to absorb into the system. So in reality,

1985
01:41:06,200 --> 01:41:08,879
Speaker 7: you know, we're we're really trying to start the hydration

1986
01:41:09,040 --> 01:41:13,000
Speaker 7: process four hours before on kids who may have issues.

1987
01:41:14,040 --> 01:41:17,000
Speaker 7: But but again, there's there's other options. I mean, you know,

1988
01:41:17,040 --> 01:41:19,960
Speaker 7: at the collegiate professional level. You know, if we have

1989
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Speaker 7: a kid who has some difficulty and you've experienced this,

1990
01:41:23,439 --> 01:41:27,200
Speaker 7: and we use IVY fluids, and you know that that

1991
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:31,720
Speaker 7: immediately controls the uh, the amount of fluid that you

1992
01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:34,160
Speaker 7: can put into the body because it goes right into

1993
01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:37,760
Speaker 7: the circulatory system and it gets where it needs to

1994
01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:38,639
Speaker 7: go pretty quickly.

1995
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Speaker 3: Uh.

1996
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Speaker 7: And then there are some other medications you can try

1997
01:41:41,640 --> 01:41:44,559
Speaker 7: to control the cramping that are very safe, so that

1998
01:41:44,800 --> 01:41:48,240
Speaker 7: you know, again, we monitor our kids throughout the whole game,

1999
01:41:48,800 --> 01:41:51,679
Speaker 7: and Mike Rayceell does a great job but monitoring weight.

2000
01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:54,120
Speaker 7: So if a kid comes in before the game and

2001
01:41:54,160 --> 01:41:57,880
Speaker 7: their weight's not at the right level, uh, then we've

2002
01:41:57,880 --> 01:42:00,400
Speaker 7: got four or five hours to get them to where

2003
01:42:00,400 --> 01:42:02,720
Speaker 7: we want them because most weight loss over night is

2004
01:42:02,720 --> 01:42:03,200
Speaker 7: from water.

2005
01:42:04,640 --> 01:42:08,040
Speaker 3: I wonder too, because and again we don't have medical

2006
01:42:08,080 --> 01:42:11,360
Speaker 3: reports or the exact information, but we've also seen this

2007
01:42:11,439 --> 01:42:16,080
Speaker 3: player in Darren Peterson has missed games due to hamstring injuries,

2008
01:42:16,840 --> 01:42:20,200
Speaker 3: ankle injuries, He's missed games due to illnesses. Are any

2009
01:42:20,280 --> 01:42:24,040
Speaker 3: of those things a secondary cause or can they lead

2010
01:42:24,120 --> 01:42:26,880
Speaker 3: to the cramping or can the cramping cause some of

2011
01:42:26,920 --> 01:42:29,720
Speaker 3: the other problems that he's seen throughout this year. When

2012
01:42:29,720 --> 01:42:30,439
Speaker 3: he's miss games.

2013
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Speaker 5: That's exactly right.

2014
01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:37,920
Speaker 7: If you're dehydrated and chronically dehydrated, you're setting yourself up

2015
01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:41,759
Speaker 7: for more muscle injury, more must of their strange hamstring strains,

2016
01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:45,800
Speaker 7: quad strains, that type of thing. So as far as

2017
01:42:45,880 --> 01:42:49,519
Speaker 7: joint injury, you know, maybe the data is not as

2018
01:42:50,160 --> 01:42:55,520
Speaker 7: correlated to it, but there's certainly correlation between. If I'm dehydrated,

2019
01:42:55,640 --> 01:42:58,400
Speaker 7: my muscles can't flush. I don't have a good enough

2020
01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:02,160
Speaker 7: circulation system to keep them, uh, you know, hydrated, I'll

2021
01:43:02,280 --> 01:43:05,280
Speaker 7: use that word. And you have a tendency to pull

2022
01:43:05,320 --> 01:43:08,240
Speaker 7: a muscle, so you know, and again, if you have

2023
01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:11,280
Speaker 7: Kroda cramping, now all of a sudden that muscle is

2024
01:43:11,320 --> 01:43:15,559
Speaker 7: in a constant state of spasm, then that alone can

2025
01:43:15,680 --> 01:43:16,680
Speaker 7: lead to damage.

2026
01:43:17,240 --> 01:43:18,000
Speaker 6: So you know.

2027
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:21,519
Speaker 7: And again you've you've played with guys who had such

2028
01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:25,240
Speaker 7: severe cramping that they ended up having a Grade one

2029
01:43:25,360 --> 01:43:29,839
Speaker 7: hamstring strain, just because you know the severity of the cramps.

2030
01:43:30,240 --> 01:43:33,519
Speaker 7: You know, with that remember your days at Higher Ground,

2031
01:43:33,840 --> 01:43:36,040
Speaker 7: I mean, oh yeah, guys would be in cramps and

2032
01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:38,679
Speaker 7: we'd have a heck of a time breaking them until

2033
01:43:38,720 --> 01:43:41,240
Speaker 7: we plug them with the IV. For maybe two or

2034
01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:42,400
Speaker 7: three leaders.

2035
01:43:42,280 --> 01:43:44,960
Speaker 4: In a setting, like that does rest help?

2036
01:43:45,360 --> 01:43:46,920
Speaker 3: I mean, if you have a player that has the

2037
01:43:46,960 --> 01:43:50,679
Speaker 3: hamstring issue, that has the ongoing cramping issues, is resting

2038
01:43:50,800 --> 01:43:53,599
Speaker 3: for an amount of time going to make a big

2039
01:43:53,640 --> 01:43:55,600
Speaker 3: difference or do you need to kind of find the

2040
01:43:55,720 --> 01:43:58,080
Speaker 3: root problem of the cramping in order to get back

2041
01:43:58,120 --> 01:43:58,840
Speaker 3: to where you need to be.

2042
01:44:00,160 --> 01:44:01,719
Speaker 7: Well, First of all, you need to find the root

2043
01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:04,519
Speaker 7: cause of the problem for the cramping. And number two

2044
01:44:04,640 --> 01:44:07,519
Speaker 7: is I don't I like rest, don't get me wrong,

2045
01:44:07,600 --> 01:44:10,559
Speaker 7: but I also like a lot of motion, you know,

2046
01:44:10,760 --> 01:44:14,200
Speaker 7: keep the muscle moving. So I mean, you've been our

2047
01:44:14,280 --> 01:44:16,120
Speaker 7: games and you see, you know, I've got a player

2048
01:44:16,160 --> 01:44:18,760
Speaker 7: who you know, comes out of the game and doesn't sit.

2049
01:44:19,000 --> 01:44:22,719
Speaker 7: He sits on the bike and he keeps his legs

2050
01:44:22,760 --> 01:44:27,599
Speaker 7: moving so that he doesn't have stiffness issues or cramping issues.

2051
01:44:28,120 --> 01:44:30,800
Speaker 7: So that you know, we're hydrating him on the bike,

2052
01:44:31,640 --> 01:44:35,040
Speaker 7: we're using some supplemental oxygen on the bike because oxygen,

2053
01:44:35,120 --> 01:44:38,719
Speaker 7: lack of oxygen depletion can also give you cramping, especially

2054
01:44:38,720 --> 01:44:42,400
Speaker 7: when you're playing at higher altitudes. So you know, again

2055
01:44:43,240 --> 01:44:45,880
Speaker 7: you've got to find the root cause. And then you've

2056
01:44:45,880 --> 01:44:48,839
Speaker 7: got to sit with any athlete who has chronic cramping

2057
01:44:49,000 --> 01:44:52,720
Speaker 7: and find out what their lifestyle is. Sometimes poor lifestyle

2058
01:44:52,840 --> 01:44:56,040
Speaker 7: choices leans the chronic problems such as this.

2059
01:44:57,120 --> 01:44:59,519
Speaker 3: What about for let's say a high school athlete or

2060
01:44:59,560 --> 01:45:03,320
Speaker 3: maybe they I don't have everything at their disposal to

2061
01:45:03,680 --> 01:45:05,840
Speaker 3: find the issues for what what do you suggest for

2062
01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:08,400
Speaker 3: maybe a high school athlete that has cramping issues or

2063
01:45:09,200 --> 01:45:12,519
Speaker 3: has these these problems that go far beyond just making

2064
01:45:12,600 --> 01:45:15,599
Speaker 3: sure you're hydrating in between sporting events.

2065
01:45:15,800 --> 01:45:18,920
Speaker 7: Well, number one, I would definitely recommend, like we always do,

2066
01:45:19,080 --> 01:45:22,360
Speaker 7: get your rest at night, get off the video games,

2067
01:45:23,040 --> 01:45:27,200
Speaker 7: use cold funge after you're done practice or games. But

2068
01:45:27,240 --> 01:45:30,040
Speaker 7: more importantly, to know how much water weight you've lost,

2069
01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:33,679
Speaker 7: weigh yourself. You know, weigh yourself when you get home

2070
01:45:33,720 --> 01:45:36,799
Speaker 7: in the evening after practice or a game. Weigh yourself

2071
01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:39,240
Speaker 7: in the morning and make sure you're putting that weight

2072
01:45:39,360 --> 01:45:43,920
Speaker 7: back on in waterweight okay fluids, so that you know

2073
01:45:44,160 --> 01:45:46,880
Speaker 7: if you notice that I'm down two pounds three pounds,

2074
01:45:46,960 --> 01:45:48,640
Speaker 7: and I've got to drink enough to get my two

2075
01:45:48,760 --> 01:45:51,559
Speaker 7: or three pounds back on, because if I go into

2076
01:45:51,600 --> 01:45:55,639
Speaker 7: the next activity down by two or three pounds. It's

2077
01:45:55,720 --> 01:45:58,920
Speaker 7: like when these kids get sick and they get a

2078
01:45:58,960 --> 01:46:02,160
Speaker 7: flu bug bug and they're either you know, they've got

2079
01:46:02,240 --> 01:46:05,040
Speaker 7: nausea where they're vomiting all the time, or you know,

2080
01:46:05,080 --> 01:46:07,960
Speaker 7: they have diarrhea all the time and they're completely dehydrated.

2081
01:46:08,280 --> 01:46:10,519
Speaker 7: We've got to put something back in them before we

2082
01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:11,160
Speaker 7: can even.

2083
01:46:11,000 --> 01:46:12,000
Speaker 5: Think of letting them play.

2084
01:46:12,640 --> 01:46:16,000
Speaker 7: And you know, we will oftentimes use ID in those situations.

2085
01:46:16,360 --> 01:46:18,760
Speaker 7: But again, if kids at the high school level start

2086
01:46:18,880 --> 01:46:22,240
Speaker 7: monitoring their weight, get their rest, make sure they're drinking

2087
01:46:22,479 --> 01:46:29,800
Speaker 7: enough fluids, avoiding you know, avoiding too many caffeinated products.

2088
01:46:30,280 --> 01:46:33,519
Speaker 7: You know, things should go pretty well for them. Make

2089
01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:38,080
Speaker 7: sure you're stretching. Okay, if it becomes a chronic problem,

2090
01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:41,240
Speaker 7: then you need to you know, you need to see

2091
01:46:41,280 --> 01:46:44,519
Speaker 7: your primary care physician or one of the docs. You

2092
01:46:44,600 --> 01:46:47,800
Speaker 7: can pretentially do some blood testing to see if you've

2093
01:46:47,800 --> 01:46:52,120
Speaker 7: got lactate acid in the build up. See if you're

2094
01:46:52,640 --> 01:46:56,759
Speaker 7: what we call GFR. Your kinney function is tains because

2095
01:46:57,080 --> 01:46:58,840
Speaker 7: you know, you remember a can't when we would take

2096
01:46:58,880 --> 01:47:01,519
Speaker 7: your blood two or three times, and the whole idea

2097
01:47:01,520 --> 01:47:05,040
Speaker 7: of doing that was to check what your creatum was

2098
01:47:05,240 --> 01:47:08,559
Speaker 7: and what your kingney function was, so that as we

2099
01:47:08,600 --> 01:47:11,080
Speaker 7: went through the two days and you were spinning out

2100
01:47:11,080 --> 01:47:16,040
Speaker 7: all this fluid, you weren't causing yourself or putting yourself

2101
01:47:16,040 --> 01:47:20,960
Speaker 7: in a worse environment. So hydrate, rest, check your weight.

2102
01:47:21,520 --> 01:47:25,880
Speaker 7: You know, get some stretching going, but you know through

2103
01:47:25,880 --> 01:47:28,320
Speaker 7: when you're warming up. If you build it up, you

2104
01:47:28,400 --> 01:47:32,080
Speaker 7: don't over don't get too active too fast, and just

2105
01:47:32,520 --> 01:47:35,240
Speaker 7: ramp it up, you know, in a nice slow pace.

2106
01:47:36,120 --> 01:47:39,360
Speaker 3: Bob Manjean, University of Cincinnati and Novacare, you're the best. Bob,

2107
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Speaker 3: have a great trip to Kansas and bring home a

2108
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Speaker 3: winner for us.

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Speaker 9: We're going to sort of give it our best shot.

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Speaker 27: Tony.

2111
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Speaker 7: I think the kids are in a good position right now,

2112
01:47:47,720 --> 01:47:49,559
Speaker 7: and you know we got three in a row. Let's

2113
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Speaker 7: make it four.

2114
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Speaker 4: Let's do it. Bob, thank you so much. We'll talk

2115
01:47:52,560 --> 01:47:53,439
Speaker 4: again next week.

2116
01:47:54,720 --> 01:47:55,960
Speaker 7: Have a great weekend, guys.

2117
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Speaker 3: That is Bob Manjeen. This is since he three p

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Speaker 3: sixty and Bob with Novacare. When you're dealing with injury

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Speaker 3: or just making your health a priority, Novacare, Rehabitation, rehabilitation

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Speaker 3: is here for you. There's no better time to make

2121
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Speaker 3: Novacare's movement experts part of your healthcare team than now.

2122
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Speaker 3: Starting care is easy and for some may not even

2123
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Speaker 3: require a prescription for physical therapy from your doctor. To

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Speaker 3: learn more, go to novacare dot com. Today since he

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Speaker 3: three to sixty rolls on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 8: From the Court to the Cage, the Diamond to the Dome.

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Speaker 8: He borings the heat Moegar Today at three pm on

2128
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Speaker 8: ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back, roll along since e three sixty Honey, ESPN

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Speaker 3: fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

2131
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Speaker 4: I got a bone to pick with Bill Connolly. Yeah,

2132
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Speaker 4: you ever heard of Bill Connolly. Haven't put a second

2133
01:48:52,360 --> 01:48:55,320
Speaker 4: thought into the name Bill Connolly. Well, Bill Connolly writes

2134
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Speaker 4: for ESPN, and today he came out with college Football's

2135
01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:04,880
Speaker 4: Top one hundred Quarterbacks of the two thousands. Disgusting and

2136
01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:09,599
Speaker 4: I'm sinking, Oh, great opportunity here show topic. We can

2137
01:49:09,640 --> 01:49:13,120
Speaker 4: see what old Bill Connolly wrote about Tony Pike and

2138
01:49:13,160 --> 01:49:16,599
Speaker 4: his run with the Cincinnati Bearcats all those years ago.

2139
01:49:16,760 --> 01:49:19,200
Speaker 4: And they were many years ago, and you are getting old.

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01:49:20,320 --> 01:49:22,400
Speaker 4: And then I look at number one hundred and he's

2141
01:49:22,400 --> 01:49:25,639
Speaker 4: got JJ McCarthy and I'm like, that's no big deal.

2142
01:49:25,680 --> 01:49:28,439
Speaker 4: I mean, Tony was ten times the quarterback. JJ McCarthy

2143
01:49:28,560 --> 01:49:32,000
Speaker 4: was McCarthy stunk yep. And then I see Bryce Petty

2144
01:49:32,600 --> 01:49:36,960
Speaker 4: at ninety nine, Taj Boyd at ninety seven, and I'm thinking,

2145
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Speaker 4: all right, Pike might be in trouble here, yep ninety five.

2146
01:49:40,439 --> 01:49:44,560
Speaker 4: And then at ninety five I saw Desmond Ritter, who

2147
01:49:44,960 --> 01:49:49,720
Speaker 4: really good career at Cincinnati. Eighty seven touchdowns, twenty eight interceptions,

2148
01:49:50,080 --> 01:49:54,360
Speaker 4: twenty one hundred rushing yards, twenty eight touchdowns on the ground. Yeah,

2149
01:49:54,760 --> 01:49:57,959
Speaker 4: and twenty eight ninety's is a little much. It became

2150
01:49:58,240 --> 01:50:02,200
Speaker 4: pretty obvious to me, especially when I saw Jake Browning

2151
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Speaker 4: at number ninety one, Braxton Miller at number eighty nine,

2152
01:50:07,400 --> 01:50:10,160
Speaker 4: and then I saw, like Mackenzie Milton, Come on that,

2153
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Speaker 4: my guy Tony Pike was not on this, Mackenzie Milton.

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Speaker 4: When you look at some of the names that beat

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01:50:16,880 --> 01:50:21,960
Speaker 4: you out here, disgusting, I mean, Curtis Rourke, what Timmy

2156
01:50:22,040 --> 01:50:24,960
Speaker 4: Chang you got to throw it ninety times a game?

2157
01:50:25,000 --> 01:50:25,719
Speaker 6: At this one?

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Speaker 4: I think is probably the most insulting. At number eighty

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01:50:28,560 --> 01:50:34,800
Speaker 4: seven is Shador Sanders. Egregious, I mean absolutely egregious. What

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01:50:34,840 --> 01:50:37,400
Speaker 4: are we doing here? Bill Connolly, I mean, I look,

2161
01:50:37,800 --> 01:50:41,759
Speaker 4: no disrespect to David Green from Georgia, but he completed

2162
01:50:41,840 --> 01:50:43,240
Speaker 4: less than sixty percent.

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01:50:42,920 --> 01:50:44,600
Speaker 3: Of his passes. I'm not looking to be in the

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01:50:44,600 --> 01:50:47,840
Speaker 3: top fifty. Find me somewhere from eighty to one hundred.

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Speaker 4: Just get in the hondo mark right, I mean Kevian

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01:50:50,640 --> 01:50:52,439
Speaker 4: Cobb from Houston. Are you kidding me?

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01:50:52,560 --> 01:50:57,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some fifty nine. This guy personally dominated at

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Speaker 3: the Senior Bowl. Dan le Fever. Now he was coached

2169
01:51:01,800 --> 01:51:08,120
Speaker 3: by Brian Kelly as well. But Dan Lefever thirty six interceptions?

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Speaker 3: You mean one on the MAC three times? You want

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01:51:10,880 --> 01:51:12,680
Speaker 3: to talk about a glaring omission?

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01:51:13,160 --> 01:51:14,479
Speaker 5: Yeah?

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01:51:14,760 --> 01:51:17,120
Speaker 4: Who are the top names on the list? The number

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Speaker 4: one quarterback? Now, I will say I haven't gotten all

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01:51:19,439 --> 01:51:21,280
Speaker 4: the way to the bottom yet. I assumed you weren't

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01:51:21,360 --> 01:51:25,799
Speaker 4: number one. My thought process is it's either Joe Burrow

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Speaker 4: or Tim Tebow. That would be my guess as to

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01:51:29,520 --> 01:51:31,960
Speaker 4: who number one would be wrong on both. Joe Burrow

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01:51:32,000 --> 01:51:34,920
Speaker 4: comes in at number five. Tim Tebow comes in at

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Speaker 4: number four.

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Speaker 3: Which is crazy because Burrow essentially had the greatest college

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01:51:39,280 --> 01:51:40,920
Speaker 3: football season a quarterback has ever had.

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Speaker 4: But I guess this is full careers and it's to

2184
01:51:44,320 --> 01:51:47,160
Speaker 4: go against single seasons. It's hard to go against Vince Young.

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01:51:47,439 --> 01:51:51,719
Speaker 4: Vince Young was unbelievable. Yeah, you know, over the course

2186
01:51:51,760 --> 01:51:54,320
Speaker 4: of his career. But I mean, he's not that much

2187
01:51:54,360 --> 01:51:57,960
Speaker 4: better than you, Cam Newton. Cam Newton was a pretty

2188
01:51:57,960 --> 01:52:01,160
Speaker 4: good player, was on this list to Caam was pretty good.

2189
01:52:02,560 --> 01:52:05,160
Speaker 4: Kim had less than three thousand passing yards though he

2190
01:52:05,280 --> 01:52:07,120
Speaker 4: ran the rock though, which you know, he ran the

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01:52:07,160 --> 01:52:07,600
Speaker 4: hell out of it.

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01:52:07,640 --> 01:52:09,720
Speaker 3: Now, I'm okay with number one because he took that

2193
01:52:09,840 --> 01:52:12,960
Speaker 3: flag and he planted it right in the middle, right

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01:52:13,040 --> 01:52:16,120
Speaker 3: through the heart of Buckeye Nation.

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Speaker 4: Number one on the list, according to Bill Connolly, Baker

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01:52:19,680 --> 01:52:25,439
Speaker 4: Mayfield from Oklahoma fourteen thousand, six hundred and seven passing yards.

2197
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Speaker 4: That's only nine thousand more than you, yep, sixty nine

2198
01:52:28,479 --> 01:52:32,360
Speaker 4: percent completion percentage, one hundred and thirty one touchdowns, thirty picks,

2199
01:52:32,400 --> 01:52:36,920
Speaker 4: one thousand rushing yards, twenty one rushing touchdowns, and Bill

2200
01:52:36,920 --> 01:52:41,000
Speaker 4: Connolly writes that Newton, Young and Burrow had the best seasons,

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Speaker 4: but Mayfield had the best career.

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Speaker 3: I mean, how does Dylan Gabriel get on the list

2203
01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:49,800
Speaker 3: when he played for eighteen different years at all these

2204
01:52:49,840 --> 01:52:50,479
Speaker 3: different schools.

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Speaker 4: I didn't even notice he was on the list. Twenty

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01:52:52,160 --> 01:52:53,560
Speaker 4: five on the list. That's insulting.

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01:52:53,640 --> 01:52:56,240
Speaker 3: Now here's what's insulting. To me, guy, I have great

2208
01:52:56,240 --> 01:52:58,679
Speaker 3: respect for Pat White. Should have been higher than thirty two.

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Speaker 3: I agree with that White at West Virginia was unbelievable.

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01:53:03,160 --> 01:53:05,080
Speaker 3: Big Ben is number thirty three on the list, by

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01:53:05,120 --> 01:53:05,360
Speaker 3: the way.

2212
01:53:05,479 --> 01:53:10,719
Speaker 4: Colin Kaepernick, my gosh at Nevada Diego Pavia. Yeah, he's

2213
01:53:10,760 --> 01:53:12,919
Speaker 4: thirty six. He was a Heisman finalist.

2214
01:53:12,960 --> 01:53:17,559
Speaker 3: Come on, oh my gosh, I'm glad we did this

2215
01:53:17,640 --> 01:53:18,439
Speaker 3: late in the show.

2216
01:53:18,920 --> 01:53:23,519
Speaker 4: I mean, Rex Grossman, this is unbelievable. There's some names

2217
01:53:23,520 --> 01:53:26,920
Speaker 4: on here that I forgot. Graham Harrel On Bowl Graham

2218
01:53:26,960 --> 01:53:30,280
Speaker 4: Harrell lit it up for a couple of years. Stetson,

2219
01:53:30,320 --> 01:53:31,680
Speaker 4: Bennett Stetson.

2220
01:53:32,720 --> 01:53:36,880
Speaker 3: Now I'm I'm scrolling here and I'm looking because Cam Newton,

2221
01:53:36,920 --> 01:53:39,400
Speaker 3: for a cup of coffee, was a teammate of mine. Right,

2222
01:53:39,640 --> 01:53:42,559
Speaker 3: I don't see my other teammate on this list. Jimmy Clawson,

2223
01:53:42,760 --> 01:53:46,040
Speaker 3: jim Ward Clawson. Here's here's like if one of the

2224
01:53:46,080 --> 01:53:49,840
Speaker 3: guys on the list here is is Colin Klein. Okay, boy,

2225
01:53:50,880 --> 01:53:54,960
Speaker 3: Colin Klein, in his career at forty seven and twenty

2226
01:53:54,960 --> 01:53:58,799
Speaker 3: four passing yards, completed sixty one percent of his passes,

2227
01:53:59,320 --> 01:54:05,160
Speaker 3: thirty touchdo fifteen interceptions. You beat him in those categories.

2228
01:54:05,800 --> 01:54:09,360
Speaker 3: You've got more yards, you've got more touchdowns, you've got

2229
01:54:09,360 --> 01:54:11,120
Speaker 3: a higher completion percentage.

2230
01:54:11,479 --> 01:54:14,519
Speaker 4: You do have a couple more interceptions, but a couple of.

2231
01:54:14,479 --> 01:54:17,000
Speaker 3: Those interceptions were like freshman sophomore year when I was

2232
01:54:17,040 --> 01:54:19,880
Speaker 3: the hail Mary quarterback. Sure, come in, th ohil Mary,

2233
01:54:19,880 --> 01:54:21,840
Speaker 3: get it picked and move on. Now, Colin Klein had

2234
01:54:21,880 --> 01:54:23,520
Speaker 3: fifty six rushing touchdowns.

2235
01:54:23,800 --> 01:54:24,479
Speaker 4: You had three.

2236
01:54:24,720 --> 01:54:28,400
Speaker 3: Sure, but still, yeah, I'm still looking at I still

2237
01:54:28,400 --> 01:54:31,160
Speaker 3: don't understand Diego pave at thirty six, Brady Quinn at

2238
01:54:31,240 --> 01:54:33,760
Speaker 3: number fifty three, sow he was in Cincinnati last night.

2239
01:54:34,920 --> 01:54:38,040
Speaker 4: Jordan Lynch from Northern Illinois. All right, Jordan, what'll we doing?

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Speaker 6: All right? Jordan?

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01:54:39,120 --> 01:54:41,120
Speaker 4: I think the biggest thing here is that you just

2242
01:54:41,200 --> 01:54:45,360
Speaker 4: didn't have much of a running game in your arsenal.

2243
01:54:45,520 --> 01:54:47,720
Speaker 4: Because there's it seems to be a lot of weight

2244
01:54:48,120 --> 01:54:51,240
Speaker 4: on the rushing touchdowns for these guys. What about Brad

2245
01:54:51,280 --> 01:54:52,880
Speaker 4: Banks at Iowa? Never heard of them.

2246
01:54:53,000 --> 01:54:57,400
Speaker 3: He's number sixty one, thirty one hundred and fifty passing yards,

2247
01:54:57,480 --> 01:55:01,760
Speaker 3: fifty eight percent completion percentage, thirty touchdowns, seven interceptions, and

2248
01:55:01,800 --> 01:55:02,760
Speaker 3: he didn't run the ball much.

2249
01:55:02,880 --> 01:55:06,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, So what happened there. Yeah, Andy Dalton, number seventy three.

2250
01:55:07,440 --> 01:55:10,480
Speaker 4: I didn't realize Andy threw for ten thousand yards in college. Yeah,

2251
01:55:10,520 --> 01:55:12,160
Speaker 4: there were some folks on here. I don't even know

2252
01:55:12,200 --> 01:55:14,160
Speaker 4: who in the heck they are. I know me too,

2253
01:55:14,640 --> 01:55:18,400
Speaker 4: Brad Smith from Missouri? Who daring man? Wait, what a

2254
01:55:18,400 --> 01:55:19,520
Speaker 4: way to get the blood boiling.

2255
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Speaker 3: Thank Thankfully this is at the end of this show

2256
01:55:21,800 --> 01:55:25,120
Speaker 3: today and we have a chance to talk to Mowager next.

2257
01:55:25,360 --> 01:55:27,280
Speaker 4: Is there like the first thing I saw this morning

2258
01:55:27,400 --> 01:55:29,640
Speaker 4: Top one hundred college Quarterbacks of all times? Like, oh,

2259
01:55:29,680 --> 01:55:33,200
Speaker 4: that's a good Friday topic. That'll be fun. Yep, and

2260
01:55:33,440 --> 01:55:37,960
Speaker 4: it's the opposite. And JJ McCarthy, bum, thanks for the memories.

2261
01:55:38,120 --> 01:55:40,480
Speaker 4: Thanks a lot, at least like at least like Gino

2262
01:55:40,520 --> 01:55:44,040
Speaker 4: didn't make it on. Claros wasn't on there. No, it's

2263
01:55:44,120 --> 01:55:50,680
Speaker 4: just Ritterer. Mowago joins us next Quick Hits to finish

2264
01:55:50,720 --> 01:55:53,600
Speaker 4: of a Friday on the home of the Bengals ESPN

2265
01:55:53,680 --> 01:55:57,360
Speaker 4: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station for quick.

2266
01:55:57,240 --> 01:55:59,080
Speaker 2: Hits on Tony Pikes.

2267
01:55:59,160 --> 01:56:03,480
Speaker 3: Since sixty was looking for mo that's right, we're finishing

2268
01:56:03,520 --> 01:56:05,720
Speaker 3: this thing off on a Friday afternoon. Since he three

2269
01:56:05,920 --> 01:56:09,360
Speaker 3: sixty coming to an end, The Moulagger Show just getting

2270
01:56:09,400 --> 01:56:10,360
Speaker 3: set to get started.

2271
01:56:10,640 --> 01:56:13,720
Speaker 4: So mo joins us right now. What's going on? What's

2272
01:56:13,720 --> 01:56:14,680
Speaker 4: coming up on the show today?

2273
01:56:15,480 --> 01:56:17,800
Speaker 14: Oh, it's gonna be big. It's the eve of the

2274
01:56:17,800 --> 01:56:19,920
Speaker 14: Cactus League opener. We're gonna get a good year and

2275
01:56:20,000 --> 01:56:22,240
Speaker 14: chat with our friend Tommy Thrall, the voice of the Reds.

2276
01:56:22,920 --> 01:56:24,080
Speaker 6: It's weird spring training.

2277
01:56:24,160 --> 01:56:26,480
Speaker 14: There's not a lot to sift through, so we'll see

2278
01:56:26,480 --> 01:56:30,760
Speaker 14: what Tommy's interested in sifting through as the games get started.

2279
01:56:30,880 --> 01:56:34,280
Speaker 14: Nate Bookaty from MLS season past. Apple TV is gonna

2280
01:56:34,280 --> 01:56:37,600
Speaker 14: stop I in studio. Actually he's calling the game tomorrow,

2281
01:56:37,800 --> 01:56:39,600
Speaker 14: FC Cincinnati versus Atlanta Hill.

2282
01:56:39,680 --> 01:56:41,520
Speaker 6: Join us in the four o'clock hour.

2283
01:56:41,600 --> 01:56:44,560
Speaker 14: There are one or two other things we are working

2284
01:56:44,640 --> 01:56:48,200
Speaker 14: on right up until showtime, and we'll see if they

2285
01:56:48,200 --> 01:56:48,920
Speaker 14: actually happen.

2286
01:56:49,120 --> 01:56:49,920
Speaker 6: We've got a.

2287
01:56:49,920 --> 01:56:53,920
Speaker 14: Massive college basketball weekend and a lot to get to today,

2288
01:56:53,920 --> 01:56:54,880
Speaker 14: a few Bengals items.

2289
01:56:54,920 --> 01:56:55,560
Speaker 6: It's gonna be fun.

2290
01:56:55,640 --> 01:56:58,360
Speaker 4: Did you know that Tommy Thrall was a sports talk

2291
01:56:58,440 --> 01:57:03,080
Speaker 4: show host on an ESPN affiliate in Pensacola, Florida.

2292
01:57:03,280 --> 01:57:04,360
Speaker 6: I think I did know that.

2293
01:57:04,520 --> 01:57:06,880
Speaker 14: Yeah, I did not know that until like yesterday. I

2294
01:57:06,920 --> 01:57:09,320
Speaker 14: think I did. Yeah, I think I think that. I

2295
01:57:09,320 --> 01:57:11,920
Speaker 14: think that's something I did know, and I don't know why.

2296
01:57:12,560 --> 01:57:15,520
Speaker 14: Maybe I didn't, but like that, I think that's something

2297
01:57:15,760 --> 01:57:18,160
Speaker 14: I think, like when he got the gig, we had

2298
01:57:18,240 --> 01:57:20,080
Speaker 14: him on and it was like, all right, let's get

2299
01:57:20,120 --> 01:57:22,200
Speaker 14: to know you a little bit, and I think he

2300
01:57:22,360 --> 01:57:24,760
Speaker 14: dropped that nugget on us, if I if my memory

2301
01:57:24,840 --> 01:57:26,839
Speaker 14: is not mistaken, which it often.

2302
01:57:26,680 --> 01:57:30,320
Speaker 4: Is, Yeah, it is.

2303
01:57:30,400 --> 01:57:32,680
Speaker 3: It is unique, and we have obviously had the conversation

2304
01:57:32,720 --> 01:57:36,040
Speaker 3: with Charlie Goldsmith today. It's it's a it's a weird

2305
01:57:36,080 --> 01:57:39,120
Speaker 3: spring training feel because I Austin and I already think

2306
01:57:39,120 --> 01:57:42,720
Speaker 3: spring training goes too long. It especially feels longer when

2307
01:57:42,760 --> 01:57:45,200
Speaker 3: there's not a ton of position battles up for grabs.

2308
01:57:45,600 --> 01:57:48,280
Speaker 3: So what do you look to watch for just on

2309
01:57:48,280 --> 01:57:51,040
Speaker 3: on your behalf when when you turn on a Cactus

2310
01:57:51,120 --> 01:57:53,280
Speaker 3: League game starting tomorrow or anything else leading up to

2311
01:57:53,280 --> 01:57:54,040
Speaker 3: the regular season.

2312
01:57:54,800 --> 01:57:57,760
Speaker 14: Well, I think you're right. You guys have talked about it.

2313
01:57:57,840 --> 01:58:01,480
Speaker 14: I've talked about it. They're a weird team because it

2314
01:58:01,520 --> 01:58:04,120
Speaker 14: feels like there's not a lot of open gigs, not

2315
01:58:04,200 --> 01:58:06,680
Speaker 14: a lot of open roster spots, not a lot of

2316
01:58:06,680 --> 01:58:09,720
Speaker 14: starting jobs up for grabs. You know, I feel like

2317
01:58:09,800 --> 01:58:12,320
Speaker 14: we could sit down right now and jot down twenty

2318
01:58:12,320 --> 01:58:14,640
Speaker 14: six names and come pretty close to what the roster

2319
01:58:14,800 --> 01:58:16,000
Speaker 14: is going to be on opening Day.

2320
01:58:16,040 --> 01:58:16,240
Speaker 6: Now.

2321
01:58:16,320 --> 01:58:20,080
Speaker 14: Injuries can affect that and often do and certainly have

2322
01:58:20,200 --> 01:58:22,960
Speaker 14: for this team. But usually when that's the case, I

2323
01:58:23,000 --> 01:58:25,480
Speaker 14: feel like a team's ceiling is higher, and I mean you,

2324
01:58:26,040 --> 01:58:28,240
Speaker 14: it's still plausible this team is roughly what it was

2325
01:58:28,320 --> 01:58:30,800
Speaker 14: last year, maybe a little bit worse. And so typically

2326
01:58:30,840 --> 01:58:32,720
Speaker 14: when you think of like a team that is set

2327
01:58:32,800 --> 01:58:35,840
Speaker 14: going into spring training, you feel like, all right, it's

2328
01:58:36,200 --> 01:58:37,640
Speaker 14: a bunch of dudes who made a run of the

2329
01:58:37,640 --> 01:58:40,120
Speaker 14: World Series last year, or it's a team that's, you know,

2330
01:58:40,200 --> 01:58:43,040
Speaker 14: really well established. And that's not so much the case,

2331
01:58:43,640 --> 01:58:47,680
Speaker 14: I guess for me individually, Like god knows, we've talked

2332
01:58:47,680 --> 01:58:50,440
Speaker 14: about him a ton, Matt McClain's got to be better

2333
01:58:50,480 --> 01:58:53,480
Speaker 14: this year. Are there signs during spring training that suggest

2334
01:58:53,720 --> 01:58:57,200
Speaker 14: that's going to be the case. Are there signs indicating

2335
01:58:57,240 --> 01:58:59,280
Speaker 14: that this team could maybe run a little bit more

2336
01:58:59,320 --> 01:59:02,840
Speaker 14: offensively this season? Obviously that starts with with Ellie de

2337
01:59:02,920 --> 01:59:06,040
Speaker 14: la Cruz. I'll go there, and then you know, look

2338
01:59:06,160 --> 01:59:08,800
Speaker 14: is is Chase Burns gonna get the fifth spot in

2339
01:59:08,840 --> 01:59:10,840
Speaker 14: the rotation, and is he going to be ready to

2340
01:59:10,840 --> 01:59:12,360
Speaker 14: pitch at the level the Reds are going to need

2341
01:59:12,400 --> 01:59:15,720
Speaker 14: him to pitch if they genuinely want to contend. I'm

2342
01:59:15,760 --> 01:59:18,960
Speaker 14: really interested in, like they could use more offense from

2343
01:59:18,960 --> 01:59:21,720
Speaker 14: the catcher position. Jose Travino in the first half of

2344
01:59:21,760 --> 01:59:24,120
Speaker 14: the season last year was terrific offensively. In the second

2345
01:59:24,200 --> 01:59:27,440
Speaker 14: half he fell off a cliff. Are there signs during

2346
01:59:27,480 --> 01:59:29,600
Speaker 14: these games that don't count that suggest we're going to

2347
01:59:29,640 --> 01:59:32,040
Speaker 14: see something a little bit different? And then I guess

2348
01:59:32,040 --> 01:59:35,360
Speaker 14: more than anybody else, Sal Stewart, Yeah, Like, you know,

2349
01:59:35,720 --> 01:59:38,280
Speaker 14: I feel like he's going to make the team. But

2350
01:59:39,120 --> 01:59:41,320
Speaker 14: I got him at plus eight hundred to be National

2351
01:59:41,400 --> 01:59:45,040
Speaker 14: League Rookie of the Year. Does he hold Yeah, because

2352
01:59:45,520 --> 01:59:50,680
Speaker 14: you know he's got that, that's right, That value is insane.

2353
01:59:51,080 --> 01:59:54,240
Speaker 6: But can he can he hold up defensively?

2354
01:59:54,640 --> 01:59:56,760
Speaker 14: And are there signs during the Cactus League that he

2355
01:59:56,840 --> 01:59:58,760
Speaker 14: is going to be capable of giving this team this

2356
01:59:58,880 --> 02:00:01,160
Speaker 14: sort of offensive boot it's so badly needs.

2357
02:00:01,200 --> 02:00:03,600
Speaker 4: Would you write any goals on your mirror and if so,

2358
02:00:03,720 --> 02:00:06,120
Speaker 4: what would be an example of one that you would write.

2359
02:00:07,200 --> 02:00:09,200
Speaker 6: I don't know why I would write it on my mirror.

2360
02:00:09,600 --> 02:00:12,080
Speaker 14: I mean when you look like me, you don't want

2361
02:00:12,080 --> 02:00:15,280
Speaker 14: to spend a lot of time looking at a mirror.

2362
02:00:15,400 --> 02:00:17,959
Speaker 6: So I don't. And like, what do you is lipstick?

2363
02:00:18,000 --> 02:00:19,520
Speaker 6: What do you use to write on a mirror?

2364
02:00:20,200 --> 02:00:24,120
Speaker 4: It's a good question, like a dry erase, dry erase marker,

2365
02:00:24,120 --> 02:00:27,760
Speaker 4: I assume, I guess that's kind of I want you

2366
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Speaker 4: to get a whiteboard, also plausible.

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Speaker 6: Write it down on a piece of paper and tack

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Speaker 6: it to the wall.

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Speaker 4: I've done sticky notes on the mirror before.

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Speaker 14: I use a lot of sticky notes I don't know

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Speaker 14: that I've ever put one on the mirror.

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Speaker 4: You got to say, it's the first thing you see

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Speaker 4: in the morning.

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Speaker 6: Rookie of the year, a little little rocky three ish.

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Speaker 14: Auston never sees movies, so he probably went straight over

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Speaker 14: his head. What kind of goals are we talking about here?

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Speaker 14: Professional or personal? I don't know any Let me tell

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Speaker 14: you something, Okay, this is what I'm wrestling with in

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Speaker 14: my personal life today.

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Speaker 4: Is that's true?

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Speaker 6: So we have had fifty one days in the year. Okay.

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Speaker 14: Now, I didn't do this necessarily to lose weight, but

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Speaker 14: I decided at the first of the year I was

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02:01:09,680 --> 02:01:12,840
Speaker 14: gonna cut some things out right small things, because all

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Speaker 14: these folks like just make small changes. So I stopped

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Speaker 14: drinking pop, I stop drinking energy drinks because I had

2387
02:01:20,120 --> 02:01:23,160
Speaker 14: a minor addiction to Red Bull. Just quit it cold turkey.

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02:01:23,560 --> 02:01:26,440
Speaker 14: I stopped putting sugar in my coffee. And like, you know,

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Speaker 14: folks like, just what are two just small changes? I

2390
02:01:29,920 --> 02:01:33,400
Speaker 14: haven't lost an ounce nothing. I look the same, I

2391
02:01:33,520 --> 02:01:37,200
Speaker 14: feel the same. You know, I'm not really Jones. And

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02:01:37,240 --> 02:01:40,240
Speaker 14: for red Bull, I do get cravings for soft drinks,

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Speaker 14: especially when I'm eating something.

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Speaker 6: So like, my goal is.

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Speaker 14: To see these changes actually get reflected in how I

2396
02:01:48,600 --> 02:01:51,640
Speaker 14: look and feel. But when I stand on the scale, right,

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Speaker 14: like I've stopped there are places I eat at a

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02:01:55,280 --> 02:01:57,760
Speaker 14: lot that I have stopped eating at, there's.

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Speaker 6: Been no change. I stood on the scale on New

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Speaker 6: Year's Day. I'm not even gonna say what it was.

2401
02:02:02,920 --> 02:02:05,000
Speaker 6: I stood on the scale this morning. The number was

2402
02:02:05,040 --> 02:02:07,640
Speaker 6: exactly the same. So the hell with these goals.

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02:02:07,640 --> 02:02:10,000
Speaker 14: I'm gonna go back to drinking five cokes a day,

2404
02:02:10,160 --> 02:02:12,400
Speaker 14: oh my gosh, eating at all the places I love eating.

2405
02:02:12,600 --> 02:02:14,360
Speaker 14: And I'm gonna pour a whole bowl of sugar in

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Speaker 14: my coffee every morning.

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Speaker 6: Good you do that? That answer your question.

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Speaker 4: Do that for the next fifty one days and see

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Speaker 4: if the scale is the same. Good on you.

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Speaker 3: I have a question on the massive college hoops weekend

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Speaker 3: number four Arizona, verse number two, Houston one, Verse three

2412
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Speaker 3: in Michigan and Duke, but locally Bowling Green at Miami tonight.

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02:02:33,480 --> 02:02:35,360
Speaker 3: You know Miami's got the target on their back. I

2414
02:02:35,360 --> 02:02:38,640
Speaker 3: thought it was interesting yesterday Joe Lonardi right now his

2415
02:02:38,760 --> 02:02:42,480
Speaker 3: last four in Georgia, Missouri, Santa Clair, and Miami. I

2416
02:02:42,520 --> 02:02:45,800
Speaker 3: still think that's interesting because of how good Miami has been.

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02:02:45,840 --> 02:02:48,760
Speaker 3: But again, another hurdle tonight against the Bowling Green team.

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02:02:48,760 --> 02:02:50,320
Speaker 3: I think the spreads around eight and a half, so

2419
02:02:50,720 --> 02:02:53,440
Speaker 3: it's not a runaway on paper, but a big one

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02:02:53,440 --> 02:02:56,560
Speaker 3: for Miami of Ohio tonight. To take care of business

2421
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Speaker 3: and continue to march.

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Speaker 14: On and correct me if I'm wrong, because I don't

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02:02:59,920 --> 02:03:02,520
Speaker 14: have it in front of me. But Joe Lonardi, when

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02:03:02,640 --> 02:03:05,040
Speaker 14: he did his latest exercise, he had.

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02:03:04,880 --> 02:03:08,280
Speaker 6: Them losing a game, yes right, yes, right, So he

2426
02:03:08,360 --> 02:03:09,480
Speaker 6: had them losing a game and.

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Speaker 4: Still had as an at large.

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Speaker 14: As an at large, I I think that's going to

2429
02:03:15,120 --> 02:03:17,520
Speaker 14: be the case. I mean, I I think if Miami

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02:03:17,640 --> 02:03:21,240
Speaker 14: goes into the goes into selection Sunday with one loss

2431
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Speaker 14: on their resume. They're going to make the NCAA tournament. Now,

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Speaker 14: they may play in Dayton, which you know it would

2433
02:03:26,640 --> 02:03:28,960
Speaker 14: be would be a lot of fun. But I think

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02:03:28,960 --> 02:03:31,080
Speaker 14: they're going to make the NCAA tournament. What's interesting to

2435
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Speaker 14: me is that the mac race is is still not decided.

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Speaker 6: Akron's only a game back.

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Speaker 14: Akrons only loss was to Miami, so the RedHawks essentially

2438
02:03:39,680 --> 02:03:43,000
Speaker 14: have a two game lead for the top seed. But yeah, look,

2439
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Speaker 14: they they play at home tonight. Reasonably quick turnaround, I guess,

2440
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Speaker 14: with two days off after the game on Tuesday, and

2441
02:03:49,880 --> 02:03:52,600
Speaker 14: then back to back road games, including one Tony against

2442
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Speaker 14: you know.

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Speaker 6: You talk about a sleeping giant Eastern Michigan.

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02:03:55,760 --> 02:04:01,600
Speaker 14: Oh gosh, you and I both know when Eastern Michigan's

2445
02:04:01,640 --> 02:04:04,760
Speaker 14: on your schedule, forget about it. So hopefully Travis Steel's

2446
02:04:04,760 --> 02:04:09,040
Speaker 14: team is not looking ahead to that tilt because looming

2447
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Speaker 14: over not just Miami, but over the entire sport.

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Speaker 4: What do we get tomorrow?

2449
02:04:13,800 --> 02:04:16,120
Speaker 3: The Darren Peterson that doesn't care what anyone says, or

2450
02:04:16,160 --> 02:04:18,520
Speaker 3: the Darren Peterson that says, Okay, you guys want me

2451
02:04:18,520 --> 02:04:20,440
Speaker 3: to play like this. I'm gonna play thirty five minutes

2452
02:04:20,480 --> 02:04:24,800
Speaker 3: and score fifty points. That's my concern is that. Okay,

2453
02:04:24,840 --> 02:04:26,920
Speaker 3: let me show you what I can do and then

2454
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Speaker 3: I'll go back to being me.

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Speaker 14: Yeah. I you know Kansas is a ten and a

2456
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Speaker 14: half point favorite, do we know? I mean, has there

2457
02:04:34,720 --> 02:04:38,440
Speaker 14: been any word on has Darren Peterson? You know he's

2458
02:04:38,480 --> 02:04:41,120
Speaker 14: been relieved of his cramps? Does he want to play?

2459
02:04:41,200 --> 02:04:41,839
Speaker 4: Why riskill?

2460
02:04:41,880 --> 02:04:42,200
Speaker 6: Today?

2461
02:04:42,360 --> 02:04:43,560
Speaker 4: No updates? But why risk it?

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Speaker 14: If if I was him, I would tell him, like

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02:04:47,160 --> 02:04:49,520
Speaker 14: Alan field House is watch watch a game like watch

2464
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Speaker 14: you sit in the stands. Yes, students, Look the Bearcats

2465
02:04:54,040 --> 02:04:57,880
Speaker 14: last game they were atrocious. Call it what it is. Okay,

2466
02:04:58,080 --> 02:05:00,400
Speaker 14: last game they were atrocious. They cannot play the way

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Speaker 14: they did against Utah. I don't care if Darreon Peterson plays.

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02:05:03,120 --> 02:05:05,480
Speaker 14: I don't care if Adrian Peterson plays. I don't care

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Speaker 14: if Warren Peterson from Cheers plays. It doesn't matter. If

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Speaker 14: the Bearcats play like they did against Utah, no chance.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Speaking of big time performances, any thoughts on what

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Speaker 4: Cad Cunningham did last night to the Knicks.

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Speaker 14: Oh boy points crushed him? Should be getting more serious

2474
02:05:21,520 --> 02:05:25,720
Speaker 14: MVP chatter than he is. They're awesome, man, He's awesome. Now,

2475
02:05:25,760 --> 02:05:29,360
Speaker 14: the Knicks defensively are just a mess. When they are

2476
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Speaker 14: at their best, offensively, they are something to behold. But

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Speaker 14: you simply cannot trust him enough defensively to be really

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Speaker 14: good teams four times and the East is good the

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Speaker 14: top of the East. Now, Like, I'm not a big

2480
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Speaker 14: James Harden guy, but what they can do to teams

2481
02:05:44,320 --> 02:05:48,880
Speaker 14: offensively is a problem. If the Celtics get Jason Tatum back,

2482
02:05:49,440 --> 02:05:51,720
Speaker 14: you could argue they should be the favorites in the East.

2483
02:05:52,200 --> 02:05:55,880
Speaker 14: The Pistons, you know, the only time anybody's talked about

2484
02:05:55,960 --> 02:05:57,840
Speaker 14: him this year is when they were engaged in a

2485
02:05:57,840 --> 02:06:00,920
Speaker 14: big fight. They've been the ones seed since day one.

2486
02:06:01,080 --> 02:06:02,600
Speaker 14: I don't think there's been a day in the season

2487
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Speaker 14: where they haven't been the top seed in the Eastern Conference.

2488
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Speaker 14: They're gonna be the top seed in the Eastern Conference.

2489
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Speaker 14: The Knicks cannot beat them four times. New York will

2490
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Speaker 14: probably win its first round matchup. I cannot see them

2491
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Speaker 14: beating the Celtics, Calves or Pistons four times. And by

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Speaker 14: the way, like as somebody who grew up with the

2493
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Speaker 14: Pistons always good, I think it's fun.

2494
02:06:19,920 --> 02:06:21,200
Speaker 6: Sure that the Pistons are good again.

2495
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Speaker 14: So I hated what happened last night, but there's a

2496
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Speaker 14: big part of me rooting for Detroit. MO.

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Speaker 3: I hope I hear some goal sounds coming up with

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Speaker 3: Team USA getting ready to get started against Slovakia. Oh yes,

2499
02:06:32,480 --> 02:06:35,440
Speaker 3: somehow at the Goldhorn, somehow, my interest in the Olympics

2500
02:06:35,520 --> 02:06:38,000
Speaker 3: was zero, and now I'm like the most patriotic person

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Speaker 3: after the last couple of hockey games.

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Speaker 4: So go USA and MO have a great show.

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Speaker 6: All right, guys, have a good weekend.

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