1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Okay. President Trump now says militarily the war has been 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: effectively one. He's also revealed that there are back channel negotiations. 3 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: As he put it, these are serious negotiations about a 4 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: complete and total resolution of the war, including obviously the 5 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: big issue of reopening the Strait of horm Moose. So 6 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: he didn't say this, I'm saying this. I could be wrong. 7 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: I'm just giving you my honest opinion. Reading the tea leaves, 8 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: I think Trump is willing to make a deal, leave 9 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: Iran militarily prostrate in tatters, defeated, humiliated, and the Strait 10 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: of horm Moose open. Hopefully they'll get the enriched uranium 11 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: underneath from the ground. But I think he's willing now 12 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: to abandon regime change. May be confident that down the 13 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: road the Iranian people will eventually rise up and overthrow 14 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 1: the Mullas, especially as they see over time the next 15 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: couple months, whatever it may be, three months, six months, 16 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: eight months, how weakened the Mullas are now. But that 17 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: he's willing to end the war short of overthrowing or 18 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: toppling the Iatolis, is that acceptable to you? In other words, 19 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 1: would you consider this a victory or a defeat. Six 20 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: one seven, two sixty six, sixty eight, sixty eight is 21 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: the number David in Boston. Thanks for holding David, and welcome. 22 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: They still have to keep on going. It's not done now. 23 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: The thing is, Jeff, is that in ten years, the twenties. 24 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 2: I know you talked about the two jab they will fit. 25 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 2: You know, they'll be you know, laying duck squad for 26 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 2: a long long time. But to me, Jeff, decades go 27 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 2: by like months in twenty years, about ten years in 28 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: say two thousand and thirty six. I don't want to 29 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: call you and say, jee Trump had them on the 30 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 2: votes back in twenty twenty six, they should have finished 31 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 2: them off. Then here we have twenty you know, thirty six, 32 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,839 Speaker 2: and they have more bombs and more of bits and more. 33 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: They were able to rebuild themselves in ten years. Tom 34 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 2: should have finished them off. I could just hear you 35 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 2: say that ten years from now. 36 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: Well, David, let me ask you this. Let me just 37 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 1: play devil's advocate for a second. You know the expression 38 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. 39 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: And I think Trump would say, look, I have to 40 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: deal in the realm of the reality of what it 41 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: is today all kinds of circumstances. I've got gas now 42 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: at one hundred bucks a barrel. If this war continues, 43 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: they could go up to one thirty one forty one 44 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: fifty a barrel. This could tank the economy, not just 45 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: the global economy, the American economy. I'm gonna be dealing 46 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: with higher oil prices, higher prices in general, and inflation. 47 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: And the Democrats are going to crucify me in November. 48 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: And this is not just cheap political calculation. They come back. 49 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: It's going to be worse than impeachment. So you know, 50 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: I gotta do what I can realistically do. Now, if 51 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: I put in ground troops, which would end the iatolis, 52 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: there is no appetite. Overwhelmingly the polls show Americans oppose 53 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: using ground forces. So President Trump is saying, look, I'm 54 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: doing the best I can with what I have. David 55 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: wants a perfect resolution. I get it, but I can't 56 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: give him perfect. I can give him damn good, but 57 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: I can't get of imperfect. 58 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 2: What say you, I understand with the oil and the 59 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: prices and the inflation, but we need to get that straight, 60 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 2: play it out. We need to, you know, Europe and 61 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 2: the rest of the world needs to help us out 62 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 2: because they're the most affected by it. Clear out that 63 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 2: straight so that oil and all the cargo and everything 64 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 2: that needs to go through their can. They need to 65 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 2: make sure that that that that area is straightened out. 66 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 2: But again, if we don't clear out the bad apples, 67 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: then who says in ten years, five years they rebuild again. 68 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 2: We need to extract. Are the innucleabability, are the uranium? 69 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 2: All the stuff that's gonna again. And you should pay 70 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 2: attention because if their missiles can reach a worm or 71 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 2: you know, other other areas in Europe, they have to say, boy, 72 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 2: if these guys get a I miss so they can 73 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 2: launch it right over here. We've been listen mister Trump, 74 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 2: because he's right on this one, because these guys will 75 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 2: kill us and blow us up. 76 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 3: Good. 77 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: Well, you see, David to me, I don't want to 78 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: get too sidetracked now, but people always, you know, I 79 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: get a lot of emails and they're saying, Jeff, why 80 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 1: do you dislike the Europeans so much? 81 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 3: You know? 82 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 1: And why do you dislike the NATO so much? And 83 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, look, please, my parents are from Europe. I 84 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: still have family in Europe. You know, my ancestors are Europeans. 85 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: Not quite the contrary. I love Europe, I love Europeans, 86 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: I don't like their governments, and I think they've been 87 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 1: using us and freeloading off of us for decades and 88 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: decades and decades. Previous caller mentioned we've put in over 89 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: twenty trillion with the T dollars. That's the United States 90 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:02,679 Speaker 1: in Tonado, and this is what we get. They can't 91 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: even come in and give us a couple of mind 92 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: sleepers to help clean up the straight of Foremos when, 93 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: by the way, much of that oil is going to 94 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: them and Iran's missiles. Look, Iran does not have any 95 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: missile capability that can come anywhere close to the United States, 96 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: but it can now hit western Europe. Skippy in South Boston, 97 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: Thanks for holding Skippy, and welcome Jef. 98 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 4: Jeff. 99 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 5: You were mentioned early about how the acting like maniacs 100 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 5: throwing missiles at all the surrounding Muslim countries. Well, I 101 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 5: think it's because the test Remember the forty seven years 102 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 5: now they've been screaming you uh May Muhammad, and you 103 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 5: talk up against us, or you don't go along with 104 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 5: a cigarette against the Jews. 105 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 2: We're going to call for a world wide spot. 106 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 5: Well he just called one. It turned into a worldwide 107 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 5: spot because nobody showed up. And now they're mad. They'd 108 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 5: throwing missiles to get back and all their fellow Islamics 109 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 5: who they thought would come to their aid and they didn't. 110 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 5: So there's the answer there. And I think they're going 111 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 5: to shoot every single on till they're gone. They're so framatical. 112 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 5: And also to Jeff, you mentioned boots on the ground. 113 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 5: I'm totally against that. My bubbles don't be a noun. 114 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 5: So I know with that shows I have someone to 115 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 5: style like that. I think the people that should die 116 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 5: on the ground that the average Iranian or puts to 117 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 5: ninety million people, So if there's half of that that 118 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 5: are probe becoming modern, they should become the modest. They should, 119 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 5: I don't know, if you get a baseball bat or 120 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 5: an axe or they should have to make a ground 121 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 5: effort to make their own fight back, and then if 122 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 5: the Malipolice show up, you take them over, get their weapons. 123 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 5: That's how you start in militia. They have to be 124 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 5: the martyrs in their own country. We should not be 125 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 5: the martyrs. Were the guardian angels from above doing. 126 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 2: Everything for them. 127 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 5: They have to start making an effort. There's ninety million people. 128 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 5: They have to must together and fight back. 129 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: Well, you know, Skippy, this is why I'm such a 130 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: big supporter of the Second Amendment, and this is exactly 131 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: why our founding fathers put it in the constitution, because 132 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: if Iran had a Second Amendment, then all of those 133 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: anti regime people of Iran, all of those anti regime activists, 134 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: they would have weapons. It doesn't matter if it's just 135 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: handguns or hunting rifles or whatever, ar fifteens, but they'd 136 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: have something, and they would be able to start shooting 137 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: at the hated Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps and the besieged militia, 138 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: who are savages. What's happening now in Iran, Skippy, is 139 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: the besieged or like their paramilitary think of the brown 140 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 1: Shirts of the Iranian government, of the Iranian regime. They 141 00:08:56,360 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: are going door to door, neighborhood to neighbor hood, house 142 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: to house, and they are terrorizing people, saying, if we 143 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: see you on the streets protesting, we're shooting you in 144 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: the head. We're going to kill you and your entire family. 145 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: So they're now only keeping control through mass terror and 146 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: the Iranian people, because there is no Second Amendment, are 147 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: completely disarmed. And I think one of the things our 148 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: administration needs to do, and I can't believe they haven't 149 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: done it yet, is to this is what the CIA 150 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: is supposed to be good at, which is clandestine, Go in, 151 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: start training some of these anti regime groups, give them weapons, 152 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: fund them, train them, and have them lead a domestic 153 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: insurgency within Iran. So far, nothing is happening on that front. Zero. 154 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 1: And that's why it's gotten to the point where you add. 155 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: Benjamin Etniahu come out very publicly in a press res 156 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: statement at a press conference, telling reporters in English, not 157 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: just in Hebrew, but in English, saying regime change has 158 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: never been done through air power alone. And he says, look, 159 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: I'm telling you what our intelligence people are telling us. 160 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: The regime is not on the verge of collapse. They're 161 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: going to hang on. They remain in firm control for 162 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: at least three more weeks, four more weeks, assuming the 163 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: bombing continues for three four five weeks. So what they're 164 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: admitting is that they slightly slightly miscalculated and misgauged the 165 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: strength that the regime has, not that they're popular, not 166 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: that there's majority support, but that people thought it was 167 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: paper thin and they're realizing, as I said, especially in 168 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: rural areas, there are millions and millions of fanatics Islam 169 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 1: as Shia who support this regime to the bitter end. 170 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: So they're like, ay, it's got more support than we thought, 171 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: deeper roots than we thought. And he said, you've got 172 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: to have boots on the ground. Was he put it 173 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: a ground component. That's how we phrase it, a quote 174 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 1: ground component unquote. And so right away the Israeli media said, wehll, whoa, whoa, whoa. 175 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: Are you saying we're going to send Israeli troops And 176 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: he said, no, no, we're too preoccupied with Southern Lebanon. 177 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: So it's going to be up to the Americans. Now 178 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 1: Trump is sending marines. He hasn't said he's going to 179 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: deploy him. But there are five thousand marines now that 180 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: are rushing towards the region. They're on these naval ships, 181 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: and we'll see what happens, whether they take over carg 182 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: Island or some of these other islands in the Strait 183 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: of Hormuz. If they succeed in taking cars Island, then 184 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: they literally have complete control over Iran's ability to export 185 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: oil to the world. I mean the Mulla's. I mean, 186 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: what are you gonna fight with after a while, no oil, 187 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: no revenue, no revenue. You know, you can't just fight 188 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: on air. So Trump may be forced to have to 189 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: use troops. We shall see. But again it's very high risk. 190 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: He knows it. I mean, I'm not saying anything he 191 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: doesn't know, because the Mullas could be waiting and setting 192 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: a trap. Now what makes me positive? And I don't 193 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: want to overstate it because they could be playing us 194 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: for fools. They lie, that's what they do. But they're 195 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: opening negotiations and Trump says they seem to be very serious. 196 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: These are not just you know, hey, let's just you know, 197 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: kick around a few ideas. Let's think out loud, let's 198 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: put up a couple of trial balloons. They seem to 199 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: be talking about a total end to the war and 200 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: what Iran would accept and not accept. And Trump believes 201 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: there's enough there for negotiations that he's called off the 202 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:09,599 Speaker 1: big strikes on all of their power plants for five days. 203 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: That tells me he's willing to cut a deal, maybe 204 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: a very good deal for US severe terms for the Mullahs, 205 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: but enough that they survive. But I'm with you, Skippy. 206 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 1: If he puts boots on the ground, if Trump does politically, 207 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: if he doesn't get support from Congress, I think you're 208 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: gonna see a huge political backlash. And I think he 209 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: knows it. And I think that's why, to be honest, 210 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: he'd rather get out, win, and get out, because he 211 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: doesn't want this to become a quagmire. So no, Look, 212 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: the question I'm gonna ask, I'll be brutally honest with 213 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: all of you, is when this war is over, and 214 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: I will never do anything to undermine our troops. You 215 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: know that, Okay, treason to do that. But when this 216 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: war is over, I want to put Pete hag Seth 217 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: under oath because he's the Secretary of War. And I'm 218 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: gonna say, why wasn't there better planning for them blocking 219 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: the strait of Hormose? I mean, you clearly were caught unprepared. 220 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: You didn't anticipate that you had a secretary of war. 221 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: For God's sake, how come there wasn't a plan to 222 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: arm a domestic insurgency with any run What did you 223 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: just think? And I'm sure that's what he's gonna say, Well, 224 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: we thought we bombed him for a week and the 225 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: whole thing would collapse. Yeah, but what if it didn't 226 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: turn out that way? You have to have a contingency, 227 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: You have a plan B, even a plant C. You 228 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: always have to have worst case scenario. You didn't plan 229 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: this out. So he's gonna have to answer some very 230 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: hard questions now, mill terrily the operation magnificent, Okay, perfecto, 231 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: as the Italians would say, perfect. But now the endgame, 232 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: the exit strategy, that's where Trump basically now, Trump is 233 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: pulling headsets, chestnuts out of the fire. I'm telling you, 234 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: that's what he's doing. So he's trying to negotiate something 235 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: that will give us a decisive victory. But unfortunately the 236 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: price may be that the Mullus stay in power. Now, look, 237 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: the fact that the Mullus stay in power doesn't mean 238 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: they're going to stay in power forever. I mean, I 239 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: just want to be very clear about that. You know, Look, 240 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: I don't think the Iranian people are going to be 241 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: happy with them when this thing is over, and they're 242 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: going to be much weaker now to be able to 243 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: repress them. And maybe we'll get the CIA to do 244 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: something positive for once and start on these domestic groups 245 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: after the war so that they can wage an internal insurgency. 246 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: So it doesn't you know, just because Trump says you 247 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: stay in power, doesn't mean he's now committed to Yeah, 248 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: we're not gonna We're not gonna do anything to you 249 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: for fifty years. Jim in New Hampshire, thanks for holding 250 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: Jam and welcome. 251 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 3: Jeff. 252 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 6: Happy Monday. 253 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: Happy Monday, Jim. 254 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 6: So that's a few points to make here. Just the 255 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 6: first one is the why liberations of people? That's not 256 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 6: a thing because again. 257 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 3: We're bombing them. 258 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 6: And if the more we bomb the city where the 259 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 6: people that actually were to protested that terrible government, we're 260 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 6: killing them. And the more if we do actually bomb 261 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 6: civilian infrastructure, that's gonna get the radicals even more radical, 262 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 6: so that that scenario is not there. The nuclear facilities, 263 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 6: we bombed them, you know, we did a good job 264 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 6: of that. And then after that, in a twelve day 265 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,239 Speaker 6: where we had a real potential to sign at jcpoa 266 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 6: plus plus plus plus which made the JCP look like peanuts, 267 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 6: which would have made it which would have maybe a 268 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 6: real win, like a a really good deal, made with 269 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 6: a much better agreement. Anyways, So now here we are 270 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 6: a regime change. So let's talk about that for a second. 271 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 6: Where has that led? 272 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 3: Well? 273 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 6: I wanted to talk to Rob for a second. Who 274 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 6: called in. You know, He's like, oh, We've done all 275 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 6: these great things. Oh listen, I love this country more 276 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 6: than anybody, but I'm also realist. We've gone into Sudan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, 277 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 6: Yeam and Libya. What do we get out of that? 278 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 6: We got more Islamic militants, more Isislkida Taliban. We got 279 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 6: into the Vietnam War. What happened there? There's still were communists. 280 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 6: We got into the Korean War? What did that do 281 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 6: with us? 282 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 3: Oh? 283 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 6: That's it was a stalemate? And if anything now new 284 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 6: North Korea has nuclear bombs. They're more powerful than they 285 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 6: where ever were. You know, those are mistakes. You know, 286 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 6: if you can't learn from history, what are we You know, 287 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 6: when you talked about the no planning for the Strait 288 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 6: of Remoose, of course, why that should have been planned for. 289 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 6: There's two things that people like myself knew were going 290 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 6: to happen. One was attacking the Gulf States and one 291 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 6: of the strader moose. That should have been planned for. 292 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 6: It should have really been thought through fifty thousand scenarios. 293 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 6: We have the brightest people in the world in this country. 294 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 6: I just don't understand why that was. You know why 295 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 6: that wasn't take it account to at all. And the 296 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 6: next point I have was they're saying that they're broke. 297 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 6: Iran's broken. 298 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:08,719 Speaker 3: Now. 299 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 6: Of course we destroyed a lot of their military installations 300 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 6: and facilities and navy, et cetera. But we tend to 301 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 6: forget that country is a very mountainous region with a 302 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 6: lot of tunnels that it makes ha Mos look like 303 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 6: child's play. So what they did in gods with their 304 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 6: bombs issued me with all the military and in defense 305 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 6: structures on the ground. Just imagine the missiles of the drones. 306 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 6: We just start a couple of icm ICBMs flying towards 307 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 6: you know, father, and we have a thought, what do 308 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 6: you think those are hidden? So they have those still, 309 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 6: they're probably been hiding that To say they're not aligned 310 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 6: with trying to rush to North Korea. Of course they're 311 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 6: they're allies with them. They're not jumping to the front 312 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 6: line yet, just like NATO isn't jumping the front light 313 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 6: of us. But if whatever you know really hit off, 314 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 6: expect that as well. It's it's existential for them. This 315 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 6: is a life for death. Who Iran, it's not for us. 316 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 6: They have they're getting more and more support, especially when 317 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 6: we bomb them more and more. We're getting less and 318 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 6: less support. 319 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:01,360 Speaker 3: Here. 320 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 6: People aren't behind this. You do have a few to 321 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 6: very few people that are. But even the people now 322 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 6: that are behind it are saying no ground troops. Well, 323 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 6: that's that's my biggest point. What are ground troops? That's escalation. 324 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 6: We're on an escalation ladder. Any military state genius will 325 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 6: tell you get off either either commit to it fully 326 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 6: know where you're going with this, which I don't. 327 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 2: Think we are. 328 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 6: Well get off it because ground troops lead to death. 329 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 6: What is death lead to more death? And what does 330 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 6: that lead to? Well, I guess who has nukes in 331 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 6: this battle? 332 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 3: Israel? 333 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 6: In US to say we would use a TAC nuke 334 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 6: and I've said this before, it's a high possibility, and 335 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 6: then and that's game on and again to think China 336 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 6: doesn't want to go at Tyron, North Korea doesn't want 337 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 6: to go with South Korean, Russia doesn't more Ukraine possibly Poland. 338 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 6: Whatever I was thinking of the hands on, I mean, 339 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 6: it's it's just a pot waiting to blow over. Yet out, 340 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 6: get out, get out with a win, do the best 341 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 6: you can, but get out number one. 342 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: Well, just to what you're saying, Jim, I'm not going 343 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: to mention the person's name, but this is an Iranian 344 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: woman who is a big fan of the show. She's 345 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: been listening for many years. She and her daughter and 346 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: her husband managed to escape to Mullus, and they've worked 347 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: very hard. They're both very successful, by the way, very 348 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: loyal Americans love this country. But she has a mother 349 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: and an aunt that was left behind in Iran. Now 350 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: she really wants to stress me. I hate the Iatolas. 351 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: My mother hates the Iatolas, My aunt hates the Iatolas, 352 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: my husband, my family, we hate them with every fiber 353 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: in our being. The problem now is that her mother 354 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: and her aunt are telling her that the more we 355 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: bomb Iran and eventually now we're starting to hit civilian neighborhoods, 356 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: civilian infrastructure, whether it's intentional or not is irrelevant. The 357 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 1: people now are starting to turn against us and rally 358 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 1: to the regime. And the way she said it to 359 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: me was can you imagine if Russia or China attacked 360 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: the United States while Obama or Biden was president. You 361 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: hated Obama, yes, you hated Biden. Yes, But wouldn't that 362 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 1: leads you to rally around the flag not because you 363 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: love Obama or Biden, but because your country is being 364 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: bombed and your instinct is stop the bombing, stop, you know, 365 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: stop killing fellow citizens, stop destroying our country. She says, 366 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: that's what's starting to happen now in Iran. And she 367 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: said when Trump came out over the weekend, I know 368 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: it's been postponed five days, but when he came out 369 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: over the weekend and said by Monday night he is 370 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: going to destroy all these power plants, her mother and 371 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: aunt were crying, crying because they said, we're going to die. 372 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: They're older, more elderly. They said, you don't understand. You 373 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 1: take away our electricity, our power, we can't survive. So 374 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 1: this poor woman, who by the way, voted for Trump 375 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: is a big fan of Trump, said that this war 376 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: is literally making her sick to her stomach, that she 377 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: can't stop crying, that she keeps vomiting, that she's nauseous 378 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: because she loves the president she wants the mola's gone, 379 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: but that the bombing now is starting to have a 380 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: perverse effect on the population. It's becoming now counterproductive, to 381 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 1: the point that if Trump does follow through and take 382 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: out these power plants, very innocent civilians who are opponents 383 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: of the regime, who are natural friends and allies of 384 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: the United States, who have done nothing to us and 385 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: never want to do anything to us, will die. And 386 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: so this is the situation that we're in. And the 387 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: question that I have for Pete Hegseth is how come 388 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: you guys you didn't foresee this? You know, you're right, Jim, 389 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 1: I mean, who didn't foresee the moment we go to 390 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: war with Iran. Yeah, they're gonna close the straight of hormouse, 391 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: of course. Yeah, they're gonna lash out at their neighbors. 392 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 1: They're gonna hit Saudi Arabia and Qatar and Bahrain and 393 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: Kuwait and the UAE. Of course they will, and obviously Israel. 394 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: You guys didn't plan for this, You didn't you know, 395 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: you didn't anticipate this. So anyway, we'll see what happens. Look, 396 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 1: I'm hoping they reached out to a pragmatist what they 397 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: call a quote moderate down there, somebody who semi saying 398 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: and who now says enough and okay, let's make a deal. 399 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: And you know, fine, we won't have any more nuclear weapons, 400 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: no more enrichment, no more ballistic missiles. Fine, we reopen 401 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: the strait of horm moves. Basically, we're signing terms of 402 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: surrender without calling it terms of surrender. You let us 403 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: stay in power because they're not going to relinquish power, 404 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: and everybody goes home, and we're smart enough then to 405 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: you know, arm fund support the internal opposition and let 406 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: them finish off the Ayatolas on their own in six 407 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 1: to eight months, because if this war continues, it could 408 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 1: get very ugly, very fast. You blow up those power plants, 409 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: many innocent civilians are gonna die, and Iran is gonna 410 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 1: hit They're gonna unleash a water war. They're gonna hit 411 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: the energy grid of neighboring countries. You could see starvation 412 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: and mass dehydration. It's a nightmare scenario. It may not happen. 413 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 1: I hope it doesn't happen. But that's why your point, 414 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: I think is a valid one. The longer the war 415 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: goes on, it's like a tender box, the greater the 416 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 1: chance of a massive explosion, and once that thing blows, 417 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: there's no putting that genie back. In final word to you, Jim, Yeah. 418 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 6: Jeff, I agree pretty much everything you said there, and 419 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 6: that is a really good point about there any woman. 420 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 6: That's a good perspective to take, because of course it's 421 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 6: a absolutely terrible regime, and I know one should support it. 422 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 6: But to make us think this is going to change 423 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 6: it to which situation, it's going to make it worse 424 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 6: for them, worse for Israel, and worse for the world, 425 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 6: and far worse for us. So I don't see much 426 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 6: good in escalating this. 427 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 3: Latter at all. 428 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: Jim, thank you very very much for that call. We'll see. 429 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 1: Look the way Trump is talking, and again, you know, 430 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: you know, he's the master of psychological warfare. He never 431 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: reveals his cards, you know, so who knows. You know, 432 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: it's he always wants to keep the enemy off balance. 433 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: But the way Trump is talking, it's almost like he says, 434 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: a couple more days, this thing is over. So I 435 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: don't know if he knows something that we don't. I 436 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: don't know if the Mullas have made a fundamental concession 437 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: that we're not aware of but you know he he 438 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: said it a couple days ago. We're starting to wind 439 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,959 Speaker 1: down the war, and everyone's like, well, what do you mean, 440 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: you're almost intensifying the bombing, you're sending troops. But he's like, basically, 441 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 1: wink wink, we have to escalate to deescalate, was the 442 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: way Scott Besson put it. So in other words, I 443 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: think Trump wants to end this now. By the end 444 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: of the week, we'll see, but basically the way he's talking, 445 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 1: or maybe probably at the endgame, we shall see. Six 446 00:26:55,240 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 1: one seven two, six, six sixty eight sixty eight Eddie 447 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: in Quinsy. Thanks for holding Eddie, and welcome. 448 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 4: Here we go again, Jeff. We do the fighting and 449 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 4: they sit there and when we come through and set 450 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 4: them free, they'll be off. Thanks a lot, Thanks a lot. 451 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 4: I'm sorry they run on. Well, they better do something. 452 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 4: They're crying for us when an open street demonstrate. You 453 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 4: remember this is what around's doing. Now imagine they had 454 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 4: nuclear weapons and we were doing this, they closed the 455 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 4: state of Humos. What are you gonna do? You know, 456 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 4: I don't know how much I'd put into all this negotiating, 457 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 4: negotiating before we started this. 458 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean, but Eddie, I mean, how do 459 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: I say that? Like, you know, at least I don't 460 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: mean to laugh either, you'll laugh or your cry. But 461 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: you know, before the Muller's, you know, had a military 462 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 1: and navy and air force, you know, in other words, 463 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 1: they had some teeth to back them up. Now with 464 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 1: Trump has smashed him in the mouth. I mean, he's 465 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,199 Speaker 1: broken all their teeth. You know, He's kicked their teeth in. 466 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: So ultimately, outside of the Strait of Hormuz, what other 467 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 1: leverage do they have. I know they have Hesbelah, but 468 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: Israel's destroying them. The all they have left are the 469 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 1: sleeper cells. And I don't know if they weren't paying them, 470 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if they weren't organizing them. I don't 471 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 1: know what's going on. I'm not trying to make light 472 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: of it, but I don't see. You know, they were 473 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: talking Holy war. They were talking, you know, they were 474 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: going to blow up shopping malls and blow up planes 475 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: and you know, uh, shoot up businesses here in the 476 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: United States and Europe, and it would be chaos all 477 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: over the world. So far, knock on wood, we've had 478 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: some terrorist attacks in America, but nothing on the scale 479 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:53,719 Speaker 1: that the Mullas have threatened. So you know, after a while, 480 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: if you have no cards to play, you've got no 481 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: cards to play. And of course it's gonna have to 482 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: be a binding am. I mean, we're not just going 483 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: to take their word for it. But I guess the 484 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: sense I get from you is this, Eddie, you're saying 485 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: to Trump, finish the job. No deals, no negotiations, no settlements, 486 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: no treaties, no nothing. Tapple the Mullahs once and for all. 487 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 3: Correct two things. 488 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 4: Chef with Napoleon said, set out to take Vienna, Take Vienna. 489 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 4: And then you had World War two with Japan. We 490 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 4: dropped two bombs and said you better surrender. 491 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 3: This is it. 492 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 4: We're going to hit you again. And again we didn't 493 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 4: have any moms. So what a company called the bluff then, 494 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 4: and you say all they have is a straight up homus, Well, 495 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 4: that's what we're dealing with right now. Yeah, I mean, 496 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 4: we're in quantity right now. You know, you think five 497 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 4: thousand marines is going to settle list fifty thousand, it's 498 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 4: enough in that country. 499 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: If you're advising the president, Eddie, hey, he's listening to 500 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: you right now. I'm not saying he is, but let's 501 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: just say I know his people listen, but let's just 502 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: for the sake of argument, Trump says, let me listen 503 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: to what Kooner's saying. What would you tell President Trump? 504 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: What would be your advice to him right now at 505 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: this stage of the war. 506 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 4: You know, I don't know how they're mining all this 507 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 4: the Straits anyway, where they have the navy. I know 508 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 4: they have all these missiles. But again, if they have 509 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 4: nuclear missiles, you know, where will we be? Where are 510 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 4: these Middle Eastern countries? I'm not Europe. You know this 511 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 4: saying We're going to bomb your sailing on plants and 512 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 4: you sit there going to you know again, well, miracle 513 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 4: will protect us. Well where are your little armies? Maybe 514 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 4: you could send them into a rock? 515 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 3: Oh? 516 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: I love it. Oh, I love it, Eddie. People have 517 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: been texting this all morning, and I'm so happy you 518 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: mentioned it. I mean, I'm asking myself, Okay, why aren't 519 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: the Saudis sending their troops? They got a pretty big army. 520 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: What about Kuwait? What about United Arabemers? What about Qatar? 521 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: What about Bahrain? Even if you don't want to send troops, 522 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: they should well, how about you guys got missiles, fire 523 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: some freaking missiles. You guys got drones, launch some drones. 524 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: You guys got fighter jets, put them up in the sky, man, 525 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: get some skin in the game. In other words, how 526 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,479 Speaker 1: come you guys don't come in and help us. And 527 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: you're right, we should call up the Europeans and say, look, really, 528 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: we're out of NATO, We're done, We're done with this. 529 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: BS twenty two trillion dollars is how much we've paid 530 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: to protect you over the last fifty sixty years. Either 531 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: I see some mind sweepers, okay, and whatever warships you 532 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: guys have left. Either I see you guys clearing that 533 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: straight of hormoose with us, or I'm telling you it's 534 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,479 Speaker 1: by by NATO. And if the Iranians want to hit 535 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: you with their missiles, that's your problem. It won't be 536 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: New York that's going to get hit. It's going to 537 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: be London, Paris, Rome and Berlin. So if my strong 538 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: suggestion to you, if you know what's in your self interest, 539 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: get those mind sweepers out there now, not yesterday, not 540 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: tomorrow now. In other words, why do we always got 541 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: to do the heavy lifting six one seven two six 542 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: six sixty eight sixty eight is the number Arthur in 543 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: Chestnut Hill. Thanks for holding Arthur and as always welcome, We. 544 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you, Jeff Well. To begin with, the 545 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 3: reason we're here is because it's our fault, where the 546 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 3: people who allow these people to come in without firing 547 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 3: a shot. And it's been downhill for this country ever 548 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 3: since as soon as they were in the declared war 549 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 3: on this country, when they took our hostages for four 550 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 3: hundred and forty four days, we allowed them to make 551 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 3: fools of us. We've been doing it ever since they 552 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 3: declared war on us, and we've done nothing about it. 553 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 3: We've taken it up to Keista a month after month, 554 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 3: year after year, for forty seven years. They killed our marines, 555 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 3: they bombed our embassies, they named and murdered our our 556 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 3: boys when we were in Iraq. They've done everything to 557 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 3: hurt this country, and they've done everything that hurt freedom. 558 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 3: And don't worry, we should worry about the shopping malls 559 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:38,959 Speaker 3: and the cells, because now their selves are here. Biden 560 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 3: let them in for four years and and they're already 561 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 3: here right now. They have great patience in waiting to 562 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 3: do their bidding. And one thing that's bothered me for 563 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 3: a long time, how about all those guys we used 564 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 3: to find, especially here in Massachusetts, moving around our reservoirs, 565 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 3: when they found the Arabs. A bunch of Arabs around 566 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 3: our reservoirs are photographing the Callahan Tunnel and the Summit Tunnel, 567 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 3: and what do they what are that? People here say, oh, 568 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 3: it's nothing to worry about, Well we should worry about. 569 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 3: Doesn't take a lot the poison reservoirs. Furthermore, it's the 570 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 3: only people who want who want to turn around and 571 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 3: and sit down and have a cease fire, which is 572 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 3: what uh uh these guys want for months and try 573 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 3: trump one along are the people who are losing. He 574 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 3: should have He should have told them, if you want 575 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 3: to sit down and talk, then then open up the 576 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 3: straits of hormos or there's no talks. He got nothing 577 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 3: for it. If we're winning, why why are we giving 578 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 3: in to the people who are supposedly losing? Makes no 579 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 3: sense to me. You only if we're doing so well, 580 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,240 Speaker 3: we should deal. We should deal from a position of strength. 581 00:34:55,800 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 3: But one thing I've learned and watched, uh as our 582 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 3: history of these people have shown us. You don't negotiate 583 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 3: with terrorists. Name me one time negotiating with these terrorists. 584 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 3: Have it proved successful. It didn't prove successful with the 585 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 3: Munich athletes. They didn't prove successful with the Palestinians. All 586 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 3: they've done is commit one terrorist attack after another. And 587 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 3: they're barbaric terror terrorist attacks. And they whatever name they 588 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 3: go under, whether it's Black September or Hamas or Hezbola, 589 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,879 Speaker 3: and they're all related to you. Iran. They never they've 590 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 3: never stopped saying death to America, which means death to Americans. 591 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 3: And the problem we have is not only is Trump 592 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 3: fighting them in Iran, he's also fighting them here. All 593 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 3: of the Democratic Party has that turned around and defunded 594 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 3: that the Department of Homeland Security security. He's not allowing 595 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 3: them to function by having a shut down in the 596 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:06,320 Speaker 3: middle of of of a war situation. What what country 597 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,320 Speaker 3: ever does that and and and allows it to happen. 598 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 3: Every one of the everyone in the Democratic Party that's 599 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 3: supporting that ought to be arrested for treasons because they're 600 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:20,359 Speaker 3: undermining the security of the American people, because number one, 601 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 3: they're not American. And we've put up with this for 602 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 3: so long, and that's why we have these problems today. 603 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,959 Speaker 3: We don't Trump does not have the support of half 604 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 3: the nation, and half the nation is committing to reason. 605 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 3: And what Biden did for four years with those borders 606 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,320 Speaker 3: was criminal. I said it then and I say it today. 607 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,799 Speaker 3: And by the by the way, I just want to 608 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 3: wake one comment about Thune. I remember the other last 609 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 3: week you said you remember the call that a guy 610 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 3: made about the fact that Thune was ineffective. I wish 611 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 3: you would have remembered my car because I said once, 612 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 3: once they closed the voting for the Speaker of the 613 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 3: for the head of the Senate, which is what McConnell wanted, 614 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 3: you knew damn well that then was going to be 615 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,439 Speaker 3: a phony vote and that Thune was gonna win. That's 616 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 3: what That's why you have a secret ballot so you 617 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:14,359 Speaker 3: can pull some shit. 618 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: Etigance, Arthur, let me ask you this, if the war ends, 619 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: how much time left? 620 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:22,839 Speaker 3: Mike? 621 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 1: Okay, Mike, sorry, Arthur. Mike is telling me there's no 622 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,479 Speaker 1: time left. Hang on. I want to come back to you.