WEBVTT - Subscription Dependence, Vintage Clutter, Identification Requested and Read Before Signing 0:00:01.520 --> 0:00:02.980 This is Monks and Merrill. 0:00:03.279 --> 0:00:08.730 Hosted by Michael Monks and Chris Merrill. This is Monks 0:00:09.210 --> 0:00:09.989 and Merrill. 0:00:10.530 --> 0:00:11.150 On demand. 0:00:12.369 --> 0:00:14.409 If you haven't followed the podcast, please do so. You'll 0:00:14.430 --> 0:00:15.790 be able to find the interview that we just did 0:00:15.840 --> 0:00:18.420 with Mayor Karen Bass. That'll be on right after our 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:23.360 show ends at 3 p.m. Subscribe on the iHeartRadio app. 0:00:24.260 --> 0:00:28.430 Michael Monks, I thought you were threatening not to come 0:00:28.470 --> 0:00:31.610 in today. No, it wasn't a threat. It was just 0:00:31.650 --> 0:00:34.650 a strong possibility. I am on the jury duty list 0:00:34.690 --> 0:00:37.610 this week and lucked out Monday and Tuesday, did not 0:00:37.630 --> 0:00:40.570 have to report. Today I was not so lucky. You 0:00:40.590 --> 0:00:44.330 think that Mayor Bass was afraid of facing you? No, 0:00:44.409 --> 0:00:47.690 in fact, some of the managers, I was really upset 0:00:47.710 --> 0:00:50.450 about being called for jury duty today where I actually 0:00:50.490 --> 0:00:53.730 had to go to a courthouse because I was thinking 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:55.020 I was going to miss this interview. And I really 0:00:55.050 --> 0:00:56.400 wanted to talk to the mayor about some of the 0:00:56.410 --> 0:00:58.800 issues facing LA. And some of our managers were suggesting 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:02.030 that maybe Mayor Bass has the power to sign an 0:01:02.070 --> 0:01:04.929 excuse for him. But I think what we learned during 0:01:04.970 --> 0:01:06.690 our interview is that the mayor of L.A. doesn't actually 0:01:06.709 --> 0:01:09.450 have the power to do anything. No, the city council 0:01:09.470 --> 0:01:10.710 would have stopped her from signing in the first place. 0:01:10.750 --> 0:01:12.550 It's somebody else's fault. So I would have had to 0:01:12.610 --> 0:01:14.470 find whoever's in charge of this region in order to 0:01:14.709 --> 0:01:16.590 make that happen. So I had to go to the 0:01:16.610 --> 0:01:18.450 jury duty today, and I'm not going to be here tomorrow, 0:01:18.670 --> 0:01:21.750 I don't think. Did you get selected? I haven't been selected, 0:01:21.790 --> 0:01:22.930 and I don't know what I'm allowed to say. I 0:01:22.930 --> 0:01:25.169 don't want to get much contempt of court charge. You 0:01:25.190 --> 0:01:26.050 can talk about the process. 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:27.000 Yeah. 0:01:27.020 --> 0:01:29.039 Well, I mean, anybody who's been called before the way 0:01:29.060 --> 0:01:31.480 it works in L.A. County and I'm sure in every 0:01:31.500 --> 0:01:34.450 California county is you get the mail and you have 0:01:34.470 --> 0:01:36.870 to start checking for your week like on the Friday before. 0:01:37.490 --> 0:01:39.230 And it tells you online if you have to report 0:01:39.270 --> 0:01:41.770 to a courthouse. And so on Monday and Tuesday, I 0:01:41.770 --> 0:01:43.290 did not have to report today. I had to report 0:01:43.770 --> 0:01:45.410 to one of our fine courthouses in L.A. 0:01:45.450 --> 0:01:45.710 County. 0:01:46.569 --> 0:01:49.710 And unfortunately also not the one closest to me. So 0:01:49.730 --> 0:01:51.290 it took a little bit of a haul that I 0:01:51.310 --> 0:01:53.490 was not prepared for. It was the closest to me. Yeah, 0:01:53.510 --> 0:01:55.830 it would have been. Yeah, right outside your door, actually. 0:01:55.850 --> 0:01:59.590 Should have been crowing. With all the other people out 0:01:59.610 --> 0:02:01.760 there screaming. And I mean, I have to give the 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:04.480 Superior Court workers credit. I mean, they did run a 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:07.840 pretty tight ship. It was smooth. Well, that's good. But 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:11.180 by the time you show up, you've already been assigned 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:15.910 to a courtroom, basically a potential case. So there's about 0:02:15.910 --> 0:02:20.600 40 of us that are– we're in the jury selection pool. 0:02:20.620 --> 0:02:22.660 We often report about such and such trials. We have 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:24.660 the jury selection. This is where they start to ask 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:27.280 you questions. So basically all we got through today was 0:02:28.419 --> 0:02:33.750 the general introductions and what the case is, and I 0:02:33.770 --> 0:02:35.450 had to go back tomorrow so they could start asking 0:02:35.510 --> 0:02:37.770 us questions. Now, I think when I stand up and 0:02:37.830 --> 0:02:42.310 say the types of people I don't like, whether I 0:02:42.350 --> 0:02:43.680 mean it or not, But I think, what is it, 0:02:43.700 --> 0:02:45.500 a family guy joke where you can stand up and 0:02:45.540 --> 0:02:48.800 say something horribly racist to get out of? Yeah, didn't 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:51.880 Julia Louis-Dreyfus' character try to do that on Seinfeld, too? Yeah, 0:02:52.530 --> 0:02:55.389 and Larry David on Curb Your Enthusiasm, I think, tried 0:02:55.410 --> 0:02:58.570 to pull a stunt like this or something. But no, 0:02:58.690 --> 0:03:01.470 I don't know. I mean, look, it's part of being American. 0:03:01.490 --> 0:03:03.369 I see you wore a sweater vest for this thing. 0:03:03.450 --> 0:03:05.090 Did you knit that yourself? Well, I was wearing the 0:03:05.110 --> 0:03:07.410 sweater vest. Knit one, purl two? I didn't knit it. 0:03:07.470 --> 0:03:08.750 Crochet action going on? I didn't knit it. I bought 0:03:08.770 --> 0:03:12.810 it at Macy's. Oh, okay. It's my bass sweater. I 0:03:12.850 --> 0:03:15.130 wear it for interviewing the mayor and also for bass fishing. 0:03:16.190 --> 0:03:19.030 Tomorrow on the show, Michael might not be here. Who knows? 0:03:19.050 --> 0:03:20.810 I don't think I will be. I've been remanded. Is 0:03:20.830 --> 0:03:24.540 that what they say? Not remanded to custody. I have 0:03:24.580 --> 0:03:27.650 to go back to the courthouse tomorrow and not until 1030. 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:30.619 I'm going to miss the show. I'm sure the show 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:32.899 will miss you too. You have no idea how much 0:03:32.940 --> 0:03:35.340 the show misses me when I'm gone. In the meantime. 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:39.340 But the audience does. Your teenager may get their driver's 0:03:39.410 --> 0:03:41.290 license and you still have to haul around a car 0:03:41.310 --> 0:03:41.840 seat for him. 0:03:42.700 --> 0:03:42.880 What? 0:03:43.020 --> 0:03:44.520 Find out about that tomorrow on the show. 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:45.300 Okay. 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:47.920 A very big program. Big program. Sorry to ask that. 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:52.880 Wellness influencers. I think you and I talked about this one-on-one, 0:03:52.900 --> 0:03:54.260 like off the air. I think we were talking about this. 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:59.280 Wellness influencers have taken to promoting nicotine. In what form, though? 0:03:59.660 --> 0:04:03.470 Chewing it? Smoking it? Yeah, like those pouches. I think 0:04:03.830 --> 0:04:09.300 the Zins or the nicotine. I think there's other. They've 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:12.680 got nicotine pouches, gums, and lozenges. They're not smoking, though. 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:16.920 They're not smoking. So they're not promoting tobacco. That's boring. 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:22.289 But they're promoting nicotine. Now, the anti-tobacco crowd doesn't differentiate 0:04:22.310 --> 0:04:26.310 between any of those things. Yeah, nicotine's just bad. Nicotine 0:04:26.350 --> 0:04:28.890 is the same as smoking. Smoking is the same as vaping. 0:04:28.930 --> 0:04:35.740 Vaping is the same as swallowing chunks of tobacco plant. 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:40.230 They don't differentiate between any of it. There is a difference, however, 0:04:40.290 --> 0:04:44.630 between nicotine, the addictive substance, which is natural, by the way, 0:04:45.750 --> 0:04:51.380 and the harmful effects of tobacco. So these nicotine pouches, 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:52.540 they're saying, oh, these are going to give you a 0:04:52.540 --> 0:04:55.880 burst of energy. They're going to give you this clarity. 0:04:56.520 --> 0:04:58.100 They're basically selling it like. 0:04:59.620 --> 0:05:00.080 No-dose. 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:04.740 Remember no-dose from college? Little caffeine pills. Just drink a 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:07.170 cup of coffee. If you want alertness and you want 0:05:07.230 --> 0:05:09.809 sharper thinking, all that stuff, you need take a five-hour energy, 0:05:09.890 --> 0:05:11.740 drink a cup of coffee. You don't need to get 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:17.440 yourself addicted to nicotine. However, that said, it's not like 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:20.720 you've just taken up smoking because nicotine is addictive, but 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:22.320 nicotine is not the thing that does the damage. 0:05:22.740 --> 0:05:23.540 Sure. Okay. 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:26.700 Fair. I've never heard of nicotine as sort of an 0:05:27.220 --> 0:05:32.530 energy boost or a focus boost. I just, to the contrary, 0:05:33.589 --> 0:05:36.990 the idea of smoking, I thought, was to be more tranquilo. 0:05:37.930 --> 0:05:38.010 Mm. 0:05:38.370 --> 0:05:41.640 Like, Let me calm down a little bit. Now, I mean, 0:05:41.660 --> 0:05:43.380 I don't know what I'm talking about, of course. I 0:05:43.420 --> 0:05:46.630 really don't, you know, as far as like the research. But, 0:05:46.730 --> 0:05:50.890 you know, do I enjoy an occasional American spirit? Sure, 0:05:51.630 --> 0:05:54.590 I do. And I'm also watching Mad Men right now. 0:05:54.670 --> 0:05:57.390 Strip me as a Marlboro unfiltered guy. I mean, I 0:05:57.430 --> 0:06:00.170 wasn't around in the 60s. You weren't either. Give me 0:06:00.190 --> 0:06:02.430 a pack of Mistys. Give me a pack of Mistys 0:06:02.490 --> 0:06:04.849 and a Mountain Dew. Like a Mistys? Like a cigarette 0:06:04.870 --> 0:06:07.430 that is nine inches long? Give me a Virginia Slim 0:06:07.450 --> 0:06:11.630 menthol line, 120. I'm going to smoke this for the 0:06:11.670 --> 0:06:15.150 next half hour. It looks like a bad California paper straw, please. 0:06:15.250 --> 0:06:17.570 But I occasionally will see some folks outside having a smoke. 0:06:17.610 --> 0:06:20.350 I'm like, that's old school, and I love it. It's sexy. 0:06:20.370 --> 0:06:23.289 There's nothing sexier than watching someone light another person's cigarette. 0:06:24.430 --> 0:06:26.990 Hard disagree. So all these people, well, come on. You 0:06:27.010 --> 0:06:30.120 don't know sex appeal. I can tell by your shirt. 0:06:30.140 --> 0:06:32.200 I can smell their breath before they take their first toke. 0:06:32.860 --> 0:06:36.880 I mean, I don't smell like it. I'm fresh. I 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:40.580 have a piece of gum. And I don't strangle you 0:06:40.610 --> 0:06:43.470 to death when I come in here afterwards. After what? 0:06:44.150 --> 0:06:49.060 After a smoke. Yeah, after a smoke. So these kids, like, 0:06:49.100 --> 0:06:51.300 if you want to do it, do it. Get yourself 0:06:51.339 --> 0:06:53.780 a pack of smokes. It'll put some hair on your chest. Well, 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:55.240 I don't have hair on my chest, but I can't 0:06:55.260 --> 0:06:58.060 really verify that that works. Because you nared it. I 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:01.930 didn't nare it. I was just gypped. You can't say that. 0:07:02.290 --> 0:07:04.430 I can't? You can't say that word. You're going to 0:07:04.450 --> 0:07:08.230 get canceled. Oh, maybe that'll get me off jury duty. Oh, 0:07:08.290 --> 0:07:10.390 that's a good idea. Send this file over to the 0:07:10.530 --> 0:07:13.630 Superior Court. Are there any Romanians that are in your case? Now, see, 0:07:13.650 --> 0:07:16.010 I don't think you're being racist, because I don't think that's... 0:07:16.170 --> 0:07:18.130 That's where the word came from. Tell me more about 0:07:18.150 --> 0:07:19.830 where the word came from. That's why I told you 0:07:19.850 --> 0:07:21.170 you can't use it, but you did anyway. 0:07:21.390 --> 0:07:21.630 Okay. 0:07:23.170 --> 0:07:25.070 You might have a box in your garage that your 0:07:25.100 --> 0:07:27.240 kids could mistake for a boutique. 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:28.680 Oh, yes? 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:34.940 But before you donate those CDs and tapes, find out 0:07:34.980 --> 0:07:39.700 why you're You know, your youngins. The youngins? Nephews, nieces. 0:07:40.850 --> 0:07:45.390 Might actually want them. CDs, making a comeback. CDs what? CDs! 0:07:46.470 --> 0:07:51.940 You're listening to Monks and Merrill on Demand from KFI AM640. 0:07:52.130 --> 0:07:54.280 More stimulating talk. 0:07:54.500 --> 0:07:54.960 It is. 0:07:55.460 --> 0:07:57.140 Monks and Merrill. I'm Michael Monks and that is Chris Merrill. 0:07:57.160 --> 0:07:58.800 Do you have any CDs that you still play? 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:00.220 No. 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:01.720 In fact, I'm trying. I don't think I even have 0:08:01.740 --> 0:08:02.320 a CD player. 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:03.140 Oh, man. 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:04.670 I don't think I do. I think the last CD 0:08:04.690 --> 0:08:06.510 player I had was the last car I had. I 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:09.720 might have a few CDs at my mama's. Yeah. I 0:08:09.780 --> 0:08:12.140 did save some, I had some CDs that were signed 0:08:12.740 --> 0:08:16.480 by like an artist. I held onto those, but, um, 0:08:17.300 --> 0:08:19.420 in fact, I hold them around because radio, you know, 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:21.900 I've been, I think we've talked, talked about this many times. 0:08:21.940 --> 0:08:24.040 I've been far too talented for most people to recognize. 0:08:24.060 --> 0:08:26.440 So they get intimidated and fire me. And, uh, is 0:08:26.500 --> 0:08:27.100 that what happens? 0:08:27.140 --> 0:08:27.300 Yeah. 0:08:27.660 --> 0:08:29.400 So I had to, uh, I had this great big 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:31.490 box of CDs cause I had, I don't know, three, 0:08:31.490 --> 0:08:33.730 400 of them. And, um, and I just got tired 0:08:33.750 --> 0:08:35.390 of hauling it around and I thought nobody's going to 0:08:35.429 --> 0:08:38.300 want these. can't take them into a CD shop and 0:08:38.340 --> 0:08:41.059 trade them in anymore for a buck a piece, threw 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:45.679 them all away. It was hard. It was, it was heartbroken. 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:48.620 I do have some vinyls and I think we've mentioned before, like, 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:49.800 I don't really know how to play them. I have 0:08:49.820 --> 0:08:51.250 a record player, but I don't know how to, I don't, 0:08:51.470 --> 0:08:52.300 I don't really know what to do. 0:08:52.330 --> 0:08:52.590 So easy. 0:08:52.610 --> 0:08:54.710 It's like showing a rotary phone to an eight year old, 0:08:54.750 --> 0:08:57.730 like call grandma and it's hilarious. Yeah. I don't know. 0:08:58.610 --> 0:09:02.829 But apparently just like the way vinyl made this comeback, 0:09:03.220 --> 0:09:06.229 Kids today, these kids today with all of their fancy 0:09:06.260 --> 0:09:16.010 gadgets are apparently rediscovering records, CDs, tapes, DVDs. The tapes 0:09:16.130 --> 0:09:18.410 surprises me. The tapes surprise me too. The tapes is 0:09:18.450 --> 0:09:22.339 like when I went through my eight track phase. But 0:09:22.380 --> 0:09:24.740 nobody wants, nobody wants eight tracks. Nobody wants tapes. I 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:26.439 don't know how an eight track works either, but you could, 0:09:26.580 --> 0:09:28.780 could you punch the button and go directly to a song? 0:09:28.820 --> 0:09:30.300 So some of us that have been in radio for 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:31.720 a long time, we can tell you that we had 0:09:31.780 --> 0:09:33.460 something that was very similar to an eight track. And 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:36.380 some of us who are younger and attractive haven't. Listen, 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:38.120 I know you're offended. You don't need to cut me off. 0:09:39.580 --> 0:09:43.120 I see your insecurities. So we had carts, right? And 0:09:43.140 --> 0:09:45.970 the carts looked like eight. I played carts in school. 0:09:46.070 --> 0:09:48.680 Eight track was just like the carts. Just like that. Okay. 0:09:48.730 --> 0:09:50.690 And it would loop. I got you. No, I take 0:09:50.710 --> 0:09:52.790 that back. Eight tracks wouldn't loop, whereas our carts would loop. 0:09:53.750 --> 0:09:56.160 Once you got to the last track on the eight track, 0:09:56.260 --> 0:09:59.160 it had to rewind. All right. Well, regardless. I put 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:01.070 one in my car. in the mid-90s. 0:10:01.210 --> 0:10:01.550 Really? 0:10:01.890 --> 0:10:04.229 Ironically, of course. Of course. Well, that's what's happening. The 0:10:04.270 --> 0:10:07.369 youth are into this again. And Peter Marston is a 0:10:07.410 --> 0:10:10.840 professor of communications at Cal State Northridge. And they have 0:10:11.410 --> 0:10:15.640 explored why this is. And he joins us now. And, Professor, 0:10:15.660 --> 0:10:17.540 I want to ask, what's up with the kids these days? 0:10:17.580 --> 0:10:19.780 Why are they falling in love with this old stuff? 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:25.360 Well, what's driving the different platforms is sort of different. 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:29.070 I mean, basically with vinyl, you know, vinyl is cool. 0:10:30.190 --> 0:10:34.030 And a lot of the content on movies and streaming 0:10:34.150 --> 0:10:38.689 and TV is going back to the 80s. And vinyl 0:10:38.750 --> 0:10:41.250 records are very visual. You take them out. There's some 0:10:41.290 --> 0:10:43.920 sort of central thing. Most of the time when you 0:10:44.059 --> 0:10:49.040 see music actually in scene, not, you know, soundtrack background music, 0:10:49.740 --> 0:10:52.280 There's some physical thing there that the person is going 0:10:52.300 --> 0:10:57.640 to indicate that it's in scene. And cassettes, of course, 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:01.120 have movies like Say Anything and the aphorism that a 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:04.880 mixtape means love. I mean, the ability to make physical 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:07.280 mixtapes is attractive to young people. 0:11:08.500 --> 0:11:12.160 Professor, I'm wondering if there's any one thing behind this. 0:11:12.670 --> 0:11:15.230 And I'm thinking back to, there was a movie that 0:11:15.270 --> 0:11:17.470 came out, I don't know, late 90s, early 2000s with 0:11:17.670 --> 0:11:20.300 John Cusack, Jack Black, and High Fidelity. And they ran 0:11:20.340 --> 0:11:22.660 a record store and the store was dying. But I 0:11:22.700 --> 0:11:24.920 think after that movie came out, there was kind of this, hey, 0:11:24.980 --> 0:11:27.080 records are hip. They are cool, as you just kind 0:11:27.100 --> 0:11:28.979 of pointed out. Is there any one catalyst that we 0:11:29.020 --> 0:11:32.020 can point to and say there's a pop culture movement 0:11:32.070 --> 0:11:33.470 and this is where it originates? 0:11:36.309 --> 0:11:39.610 Well, there's that. The movie I said before, Say Anything. 0:11:39.870 --> 0:11:42.130 If you see a horror movie today, there's almost always 0:11:42.210 --> 0:11:45.450 a turntable and a scratchy record playing. I mean, so 0:11:45.470 --> 0:11:47.430 all those things. I will say one of the things 0:11:47.450 --> 0:11:51.160 that makes records cool is is that when records were 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:56.610 last important as a physical medium, it was like the 80s, 0:11:56.660 --> 0:11:59.560 maybe early 90s. You know, they're all sold in places 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:05.540 like the Warehouse, Music Plus, Sam Goody. Those are all gone. Now, 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:07.620 every record store in your town is like the coolest 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:12.350 place to hang out. You know, it's funky. They're selling 0:12:12.540 --> 0:12:16.890 used and new. They've got cassettes. They've got 45s, T-shirts, 0:12:17.490 --> 0:12:20.140 you know, all that sort of stuff. And, you know, 0:12:20.220 --> 0:12:22.960 it's like, you know, what drives man buns or, you know, 0:12:23.020 --> 0:12:24.980 it's like, you know. 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:26.840 Whatever it is, we want to drive them out. No, 0:12:26.860 --> 0:12:28.160 we don't. They drive me crazy. 0:12:28.980 --> 0:12:32.400 You know, whatever, you know, whatever it means to be cool. 0:12:32.900 --> 0:12:36.500 But but I will say this. It's not like physical 0:12:36.540 --> 0:12:40.670 media are going to overtake streaming. In the in the 1970s, 0:12:40.670 --> 0:12:43.850 70 to 80 percent of homes had a turntable. It's 0:12:43.890 --> 0:12:50.219 still under 5 percent today. And, you know. You will 0:12:50.260 --> 0:12:52.960 know when physical media is back when you can buy 0:12:53.020 --> 0:12:55.520 a car with a CD player in it, right? 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:56.420 Amen, yeah. 0:12:56.840 --> 0:13:01.100 You know, you can't even, you know, new cars don't 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:03.830 even have them in the, you know, in the memoir. 0:13:04.020 --> 0:13:06.410 I will also say there's a small subset of people, 0:13:07.030 --> 0:13:09.350 maybe a quarter of the people are into physical media 0:13:09.809 --> 0:13:15.150 who want to support artists. And they are opposed to 0:13:15.190 --> 0:13:18.530 streaming because of the very, very low compensation rates. 0:13:18.590 --> 0:13:23.250 Yeah. That's a good point, too. 0:13:23.470 --> 0:13:25.330 But they're not very clear in their thinking, because when 0:13:25.350 --> 0:13:27.689 they buy used records, the artist gets nothing. 0:13:27.750 --> 0:13:30.740 They've already been compensated for that. That's true. Well, you know, 0:13:30.750 --> 0:13:33.260 there was also a period in time where we were, 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:35.420 you know, where you basically had, if you wanted the 0:13:35.460 --> 0:13:38.080 music at your fingertips, you had to buy it, and 0:13:38.140 --> 0:13:40.730 it was a physical copy. And there was something about 0:13:40.970 --> 0:13:43.610 the social aspect of that. Maybe you're going to someone's 0:13:43.650 --> 0:13:45.990 house for the first time, and you can learn a 0:13:46.030 --> 0:13:48.130 lot about somebody the way that you could look at 0:13:48.170 --> 0:13:50.150 their bookshelf, the way that you can look at their 0:13:50.170 --> 0:13:52.270 stack of CDs, and maybe they have the fancy one 0:13:52.309 --> 0:13:56.070 that rotated. I'm wondering if you found that that's driven 0:13:56.170 --> 0:13:58.850 any of this, that there is sort of a personality 0:13:58.929 --> 0:14:01.750 definition that comes with these collections. 0:14:02.870 --> 0:14:04.870 Well, I mean, people collect all sorts of stuff to 0:14:04.950 --> 0:14:10.410 express their own values, attitudes, preferences. And absolutely, when people 0:14:10.460 --> 0:14:11.860 come over to my house, one of the first things 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:14.200 they do is look at my CD collection. And they 0:14:14.220 --> 0:14:16.719 sort of get a sense of who I am. Do 0:14:17.100 --> 0:14:19.200 I do it for that? I don't know. But I 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:22.120 certainly like having a collection I can put, like, you know, 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:23.040 my trademark on. 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:26.510 Peter Marston is a professor of communications at Cal State Northridge, 0:14:26.630 --> 0:14:29.570 and we appreciate him being on the program. Is there 0:14:29.610 --> 0:14:32.030 anything that we can look at? Throughout our lives, we 0:14:32.050 --> 0:14:36.790 have seen– The medium change, whether it was vinyl to 0:14:36.820 --> 0:14:41.300 8-tracks to tape players to CDs to DVDs and then 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:44.540 obviously getting into streaming now. Is streaming the be-all, end-all? 0:14:44.660 --> 0:14:46.680 Are we ever going to see physical media again be 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:49.650 mainstream as far as– is there another medium out there 0:14:49.670 --> 0:14:51.450 that could possibly usurp streaming? 0:14:52.590 --> 0:14:57.950 No, but I will say this. You know, TV, visual 0:14:58.050 --> 0:15:01.870 video streaming has gotten so much better in its visual quality. 0:15:02.390 --> 0:15:05.090 I think you will see that happening in audio streaming 0:15:05.630 --> 0:15:07.980 over the next coming 10 or 20 years. You're going 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:11.540 to have higher definition audio because streaming audio is all 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:14.360 compressed files and it's not great sounding. And I think 0:15:14.380 --> 0:15:16.380 you're going to see the same thing in audio streaming 0:15:16.420 --> 0:15:22.200 that you've seen in video streaming in the last maybe 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:22.440 10 years. 0:15:22.730 --> 0:15:26.210 Peter Marston, professor of communication at Cal State Northridge. A 0:15:26.210 --> 0:15:28.110 lot of fun talking to you. Always love chatting with 0:15:28.190 --> 0:15:31.550 a communication professor. And hope we can chat again sometime. 0:15:31.590 --> 0:15:33.710 Anytime. Thanks, my friend. All right. 0:15:34.110 --> 0:15:35.770 Thank you. And just a quick point of clarification. I 0:15:35.770 --> 0:15:38.450 like him a lot. You can always enjoy the crisp 0:15:38.830 --> 0:15:43.510 quality audio of the iHeartRadio app. I like him. Communication 0:15:43.530 --> 0:15:44.650 professors are where it's at, man. 0:15:45.310 --> 0:15:45.510 Yeah. 0:15:46.430 --> 0:15:49.170 And you get to study pop culture stuff like this. Yeah. 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:52.100 You should attend my public speaking class. I think we 0:15:52.220 --> 0:15:54.470 will not. So I can fail you. Your grocery bill 0:15:54.490 --> 0:15:56.930 keeps rising. Voters are sounding off when the pollsters call. 0:15:56.950 --> 0:15:59.870 But that actually bodes well for Democrats in California, despite 0:16:00.370 --> 0:16:03.270 being in charge for the last 20 years. Forget party lines. 0:16:03.310 --> 0:16:05.770 When it comes to another major issue, are you going 0:16:05.790 --> 0:16:08.860 to follow your tribe when that ballot comes? But the 0:16:08.890 --> 0:16:11.980 latest polling says about one of the most controversial props 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:14.300 is next. Monks and Merrill. KFI AM 640. We're live 0:16:14.340 --> 0:16:15.310 everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:21.210 You're listening to Monks and Merrill On Demand from KFI 0:16:21.690 --> 0:16:23.150 AM 640. 0:16:23.150 --> 0:16:25.230 If you haven't done it yet, please follow on the 0:16:25.430 --> 0:16:27.290 iHeartRadio app. I want to invite you to subscribe to 0:16:27.310 --> 0:16:29.640 that podcast. It is free. And on the social media 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:31.820 is at Monks and Merrill where you can find the 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:34.820 video of the interview that we did with the mayor 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:39.220 earlier today. At one point, I thought she was asking 0:16:39.240 --> 0:16:41.350 because she said, can we talk now? We were in 0:16:41.380 --> 0:16:43.870 a commercial break. We went to news real quick. She said, 0:16:43.890 --> 0:16:45.330 can we talk now? And I was like, well, we're 0:16:45.490 --> 0:16:47.670 live on Instagram. I thought she was asking, is this 0:16:47.730 --> 0:16:50.650 off the record? She meant, are the mics off or 0:16:50.710 --> 0:16:52.250 are we live on the air? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:16:52.290 --> 0:16:53.770 So there was a bit of an awkward moment there. 0:16:53.790 --> 0:16:54.530 You'd be able to catch that. 0:16:54.770 --> 0:16:54.970 Yeah. 0:16:55.090 --> 0:16:56.730 You see that. Well, I don't think it was that great, 0:16:56.770 --> 0:16:59.750 but it was a bit concerning at first. It wasn't great. 0:16:59.770 --> 0:17:01.330 That's why I'm saying, hey, take a look at what 0:17:01.370 --> 0:17:02.390 actually happens behind the scenes. 0:17:02.430 --> 0:17:02.870 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:17:03.690 --> 0:17:08.690 Next time, once we evolve our production quality beyond just 0:17:08.750 --> 0:17:11.810 the audio, we would need to go to like a 0:17:11.850 --> 0:17:15.040 full screen that says, we'll be right back. that you 0:17:15.060 --> 0:17:17.130 can't see. Yes, stand by. Like when you kissed the mayor. 0:17:17.150 --> 0:17:23.879 Get popcorn now. The latest SurveyUSA poll finds that we've got, oh, 0:17:23.940 --> 0:17:27.260 hang on, I've got a correction. Oh, I did it again. 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:30.520 What happened? I goofed. Remember yesterday I had a correction 0:17:30.540 --> 0:17:32.700 and then I had to correct my correction? Oh, because 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:36.379 the pursuit, the police pursuit, you correctly identified the car 0:17:36.619 --> 0:17:40.820 and a guy corrected you, but he was wrong. But 0:17:40.900 --> 0:17:43.000 I thought he was right. But you accepted his correction. 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:43.139 Yeah. 0:17:44.050 --> 0:17:46.010 He thought it was a Honda CRV. It was, in fact, 0:17:46.030 --> 0:17:47.190 a RAV4. 0:17:47.300 --> 0:17:48.150 Hey, Chris. Yes. 0:17:48.910 --> 0:17:53.020 Eight tracks did not rewind, my friend. Oh, okay. They 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:57.140 just kept going, and you could change the tracks, but 0:17:57.260 --> 0:17:59.459 it only went one direction. Okay. 0:17:59.700 --> 0:17:59.879 All right. 0:17:59.920 --> 0:18:03.919 They did loop. I can't remember ever listening to one, 0:18:03.940 --> 0:18:06.300 but I can remember an eight-track player like in a 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:09.950 car as a child, and I can see multiple buttons 0:18:10.010 --> 0:18:14.330 in my memory. Yeah, you could fast-forward. think you could 0:18:14.369 --> 0:18:17.449 rewind but you couldn't go to a special place in 0:18:17.470 --> 0:18:18.889 a song right like oh i just want to hear 0:18:18.910 --> 0:18:20.810 the chorus let me get there i'm uh i'm so 0:18:20.850 --> 0:18:22.430 trashy i used to go to these auctions and i 0:18:22.450 --> 0:18:26.560 would buy you remember those massive consoles oh i love 0:18:26.580 --> 0:18:28.240 giant speaker on each side and then i had a 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:30.500 record player and an eight track player oh yeah and 0:18:30.540 --> 0:18:32.100 i at one point i think i had two or 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:34.439 three of those massive things and i and i got 0:18:34.460 --> 0:18:37.140 them for five dollars a piece five dollars five bucks 0:18:37.220 --> 0:18:38.770 i would love to have one of those right now 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:43.130 yeah I'm into mid-century stuff. That's fun. It was very mid-century. Yeah. 0:18:43.570 --> 0:18:45.910 Hey, guys. The thing that makes the most sense about 0:18:46.780 --> 0:18:49.500 the kids these days wanting to own CDs and vinyl 0:18:49.540 --> 0:18:51.740 records and tapes is actually owning the media. 0:18:52.340 --> 0:18:53.639 Yeah. 0:18:53.700 --> 0:19:00.379 Because if it disappears off your phone or whatever, you've. 0:18:59.220 --> 0:19:03.590 Got to buy it again. No. I guess. You might 0:19:03.650 --> 0:19:04.930 have to. I think that's how it works. 0:19:05.010 --> 0:19:05.510