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Speaker 2: We got comedy, lots of laughs at Pittsburgh Brewing Company

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Speaker 2: in Creighton.

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Speaker 3: Just off.

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Speaker 2: It's just up Route twenty eight on Thursday night with

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Speaker 2: a great facility. Pittsburgh Brewing has joining me now is

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Speaker 2: the headliner, our guy ex of that Metal show.

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Speaker 3: He is Don Jamison. Don.

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Speaker 2: The Kid Rock halftime Show drew six point one million viewers.

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Speaker 3: The Puppy Ball drew twelve point eight. Ain't that America?

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Speaker 4: You and me, baby.

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Speaker 5: Dadad America Home of the Free. I should let people

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Speaker 5: know right after bat we are doing the entire comedy

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Speaker 5: show in Espanyol. So uh, if Big Bonnie can do it,

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Speaker 5: so can we.

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Speaker 2: I like it and I just laughed apropos of nothing anyway,

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Speaker 2: so it fits perfect for me. But you're a sports guy.

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Speaker 2: You have the Rock Strapped podcast, You've always been a fan.

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Speaker 2: Why can't sports just be sports? But I gotta say

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Speaker 2: I got sucked in. I guess I'm no better.

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Speaker 5: Well, that's what's crazy about this year's Super Bowl, right

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Speaker 5: Nobody on Earth is talking about the game. Everyone's talking

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Speaker 5: about the halftime. Whether you watched Big Bunny or you

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Speaker 5: watch Kid Rock or the Puppy Bowl, no one's talking

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Speaker 5: about that game because it was a terrible product. I mean,

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Speaker 5: the Amish have more electricity than that game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 2: And Dan Patrick, who obviously I respect a great deal,

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Speaker 2: he said that it was elite defense by Seattle that

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Speaker 2: made the game seem boring. I know what he's saying,

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Speaker 2: but if it seems boring, it is boring, no matter

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Speaker 5: Yeah, boring is you know, still boring. You know if

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Speaker 5: you know you're bad and bad you know I had

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Speaker 5: too much to drink.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you still suck talking about a friend.

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Speaker 3: Not neither, of course.

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Speaker 4: Not no.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not Rev and Ryan McBride either or Courtney

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Speaker 4: No, we're all very zero.

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Speaker 3: Now maybe Florentine and Trunk.

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Speaker 2: Now, Uh, did you watch the halftime.

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Speaker 3: Show Bad Money? Because like I was doing.

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Speaker 2: An appearance and I was honored when the audience said,

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Speaker 2: would rather hear you talk than watch the halftime show?

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Speaker 2: So we turned the sound down. But I kind of

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Speaker 2: saw it out of the corner.

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Speaker 3: Of my eye.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea what the freak happened. That doesn't

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Speaker 2: mean it wasn't good, but I have no idea what

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Speaker 2: they were doing. I saw like a bunch of trees

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Speaker 2: dancing around. I saw what appeared to be an actual

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Speaker 2: wedding ceremony. It was like a Latino acid trip.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was the same.

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Speaker 5: I was confused, and then and then I saw twerking.

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Speaker 5: Then I was like, okay, it's now I can know

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Speaker 5: where they're going with this. And then and then this

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Speaker 5: started getting good after that. So but you know, the

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Speaker 5: same thing I saw with the sound off, which apparently

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Speaker 5: I don't think made much of a difference for a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when they started torking, you're right, I said, Okay,

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Speaker 2: they're bringing it home. At least we're getting something out

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Speaker 2: of this. But it's funny. Somebody tweeted that he turned

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Speaker 2: so he switched back to Bad Bunny.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Again, it's just crazy, man, because nobody's talking about the game.

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Speaker 5: Everyone's just talking about whose halftime show was better. So

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Speaker 5: in the end, what happens, The NFL wins, no question.

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Speaker 2: That's what people didn't understand. To be serious for a second,

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Speaker 2: I was saying on my show, and people were acting

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Speaker 2: like a memorn. It was Bad Bunny because that gets

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Speaker 2: the game. It increased viewership. That's all that was about.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and nobody, nobody even heard of Bad Bunny before

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Speaker 5: he got announced as as the act.

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Speaker 4: Now everybody on earth knows who he is.

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Speaker 5: I've been to Puerto Rico's fifty times. No one's ever

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Speaker 5: talk to me about Bad Bunny before. Now he's the

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Speaker 5: biggest act in the world. So you know, once again,

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Speaker 5: you know, the NFL and everybody surrounding them wins.

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Speaker 2: What does America do now that football's over because the

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Speaker 5: Well, I, you know, I usually, you know, after the

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Speaker 5: hockey break, you know, obviously I'll go back to you know,

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Speaker 5: watching my Rangers, which has been appreciating. I mean, they're

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Speaker 4: So I don't don't know, I don't know where to go,

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Speaker 4: you know, until my Mets get back on the field.

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Speaker 4: So you know, I'm not sure here.

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Speaker 2: Well, I will say that after the Bad Bunny Show

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Speaker 2: that ICE's approval waiting went up to ninety nine percent.

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Speaker 2: I stole that joke too. That's what I mostly do

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Speaker 2: on this show. You know I'm with you. And what

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Speaker 2: about the Rangers. I forgot you were a Rangers fan

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Speaker 2: because you got our guy Mike Sullivan coaching. Now, I

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Speaker 2: didn't think they'd be as good as people thought. I

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Speaker 2: didn't think that'd be as bad as they are either.

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I.

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Speaker 5: Mean that's that's about the best analysis you can do

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Speaker 5: with the Rangers this year. It's just it's an anomaly,

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Speaker 5: you know. I don't I don't know what to do there.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think we need like the Dodgers GM

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Speaker 5: to come in and just, you know, start buying every

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Speaker 5: player under the sun for a salary cap.

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Speaker 2: Salary cap yep, couldn't do it, but but yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: just and they spent money. They brought in my my

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh buddy JT. Miller, Trochek's already there. It's been just

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Speaker 2: just just crazy, and I wonder what the carryover for

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Speaker 2: some of those guys that's going to be to the

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Speaker 2: Olympic tournament. Now, are you an Olympic guy? Don What

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Speaker 4: Well, I no, I'm.

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Speaker 5: Not Olympic guy at all, but I gotta say you're

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Speaker 5: you're probably the only guy on sports radio today that's

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Speaker 5: talking about comedy music and the Lithuanian goaltender.

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Speaker 2: Whose name I can't pronounce much like everything bad Bunny said,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, correct, right, yeah, But here was my best

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Speaker 3: When'sy Vonne at.

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Speaker 2: Forty one tried to do the downhill with a ruptured

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Speaker 2: brave or stupid? I mean, what the freak did she think?

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Speaker 2: What happened on?

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, it's I think she was gonna she

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Speaker 4: And listen, let's be honest.

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Speaker 5: She's way tougher than anybody in you know, major League Baseball.

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Speaker 3: You know, no question, Matt, I will get.

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Speaker 5: My get Yeah, because my mets, you know, Francisco Lindor

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Speaker 4: So you know, who knows.

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Speaker 5: Maybe you know, maybe she uh you know, maybe she

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Speaker 5: it didn't work. I don't know, it didn't work.

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Speaker 2: Well, my my logic was that she already has a

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Speaker 3: So she's been to the top of every mountain that matters.

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Speaker 4: Well and also a great hockey player too. His name's

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Speaker 5: I can't think of his name, but yeah, so she's

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Speaker 5: been to a couple of mountaintops over her career. But hey, listen,

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Speaker 5: it's like Tiger. You know, Tiger kept trying to come

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Speaker 2: Now, we got Punchlines and back Lines comedy show on

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Speaker 2: Thursday night at Pittsburgh Brewing Company in Creighton. Comedy with

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Speaker 2: a rock and roll twist and reb Beach guitar player

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Speaker 2: for Winger in White Snake.

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Speaker 3: He's on it and he's legit funny.

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Speaker 4: Isn't he.

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Speaker 5: It's amazing now, you know, we worked with Courtney and

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Speaker 5: I worked with so many musicians now over the years

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Speaker 5: doing this concept, which is so fun, right, you know,

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Speaker 5: seeing one of your favorite you know, rock stars actually

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Speaker 5: So you know, we're taking you know, the Emperor's clothes

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Speaker 5: absolutely has you know, great comedic instincts when he's on stage.

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Speaker 4: And you know, he's always been known in the business.

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Speaker 5: As like the guy who tells the best stories backstage,

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Speaker 5: and I've been privy to a lot of them. But

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Speaker 5: Just stay backstage, and nobody else is listening some of

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Speaker 5: them too. Yeah, so you know, we just wanted to

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Speaker 4: But you know, it's he talks.

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Speaker 5: About everything linger in White Snake, and he talks about

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Speaker 5: his upbringing and you know, his dad's name is Dick Beach,

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Speaker 2: Well you know what really is his biggest weapon in

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Speaker 2: comedy And he said this when he was on this

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Speaker 2: the Coverdale voice. You can't help it be funny when

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Speaker 5: Listen, he's got you know, you know, how to say

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Speaker 5: five tool player in sports, Like he really is like

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Speaker 5: a five tool comic. He can do impressions, he can

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Speaker 5: do characters, he's you know, he can do a monologue,

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Speaker 3: You know, you know it's funny.

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Speaker 2: Now that's not true, although it is a great lineup.

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Speaker 3: Just just all very funny people. So it's going to

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Speaker 3: be a great show. I will say.

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Speaker 2: The one thing where reb pisces me off is I

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Speaker 2: used to think my cover Deal impersonation was really good

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Speaker 2: because I've known David even longer than reb has and

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Speaker 2: he leaves me in the dust. Michael Devin ex of

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Speaker 2: Whitesnake leaves me in the dust. Even Chris Jericho leaves

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Speaker 2: me in the dust. Everybody can even take Coverdale.

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Speaker 4: There's a there's a lot of people who do a

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Speaker 4: great Coverdale.

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Speaker 5: Which is good because now he's not speaking to anybody anymore.

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Speaker 5: He's the actually only guy who said he was going

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Speaker 2: Like a few months? And now they're back on the

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Speaker 5: Why doesn't he play in you know, Leonard skinnerd or

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Speaker 2: Don Great Stuff is always looking forward to Thursday night.

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Speaker 2: We will see you there, and I hope Winger shows up.

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Speaker 5: Oh absolutely listen, it's gonna be a great time and

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Speaker 3: Don Great Stuff will see you Thursday.

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Speaker 5: Be good, Mark, We'll see you, assume, buddy, Thank you.

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Speaker 3: That's Don Jamison.

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Speaker 1: Nine the X from there?

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Speaker 2: But here is a savage SoundBite from steven A Smith

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Speaker 4: Dann Rooney ran the Steelers. Yeah, and he was a

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Speaker 7: No, he likes peace, he likes tranquility, no drama.

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Speaker 4: I can't stand when people.

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Speaker 7: Like that running organizations because you ain't playing, So why

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Speaker 7: And I don't find Art Rooney the second to be that.

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Speaker 4: Dude.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I mean, steven A's totally right, and no one

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't that be exciting? Tell me I won't do anything

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Speaker 3: Five to zil. Now, do you believe in miracles?

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Speaker 2: I saw on Twitter that you don't necessarily like the

439
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Speaker 2: Marcell Ozuna signing.

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Speaker 3: Why is that? Please, elaborates, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 8: Mean, I think it makes their offense better, but I

442
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Speaker 8: think his arrival and his anchoring full time of the

443
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Speaker 8: DH spot might hurt the production from others. There was

444
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Speaker 8: a lot of talk among the organization about the value

445
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Speaker 8: of keeping that DH spot as a rotating spot, a

446
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Speaker 8: place where you could give Brian Reynolds a couple of

447
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Speaker 8: days out from the outfield but still have his bat

448
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Speaker 8: in the lineup, and the same thing for Ryan O'Hearn

449
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Speaker 8: and Brandon Lowe. And now you're asking all of those

450
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Speaker 8: guys to essentially play the bulk of their games in

451
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Speaker 8: the field without having that extra rest while keeping their

452
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Speaker 8: bat fresh. In addition to that, I mean two of

453
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Speaker 8: those three guys, Reynolds and O'Hearn. They're taking on huge

454
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Speaker 8: defensive responsibilities. Now, I mean, Reynolds is probably going to

455
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Speaker 8: move the left. He's one of the worst defensive outfielders

456
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Speaker 8: in baseball. That's just not going to mix well, especially

457
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Speaker 8: for a team that needs to win through its pitching.

458
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Speaker 8: And then O'Hearn's never played more than twenty nine games

459
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Speaker 8: in the outfield in a major league season, so making

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Speaker 8: him a full time outfielder, I mean it's a defensive risk,

461
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Speaker 8: but again, I think it gives you a really big

462
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Speaker 8: risk of taking away his offense as well. So it's

463
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Speaker 8: this guy's arrival means less offensive production from Reynald, Law

464
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Speaker 8: and O'Hearn. Did it make you that much better? That's

465
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Speaker 8: kind of my stance on this.

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Speaker 2: Well, you make some good points, Noah, but let me

467
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Speaker 2: play devil's advocate. Those guys need to produce no matter what.

468
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Speaker 2: That's what they're being paid for, whether it's Lal, O'Hearn, whoever.

469
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Speaker 2: I understand they'll be facing some obstacles they're not used to,

470
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Speaker 2: but I think playing for franchise like the Pirates is

471
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Speaker 2: an obstacle they're not used to, and I wouldn't want

472
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Speaker 2: to pass up a good bet in Ozuna for the

473
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Speaker 2: sake of maintaining their comfort zone. I don't think anybody

474
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Speaker 2: on this team can afford to have a comfort zone.

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Speaker 8: No, I totally agree. And again this as I wrote,

476
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Speaker 8: this was the best move that they had at this

477
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Speaker 8: point in the season. I mean, you know, you enter

478
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Speaker 8: this week, the week of spring training starting, he was

479
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Speaker 8: the best bat available they and got him. They're a

480
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Speaker 8: better lineup because of it. I don't I don't disagree

481
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Speaker 8: with any of that. I just think that this creates

482
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Speaker 8: a funky roster or yeah, the roster construction is a

483
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Speaker 8: little funky right now.

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Speaker 2: No, No, I see that. Here's here's my other, my

485
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Speaker 2: other pushback. Who else would it there have been to

486
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Speaker 2: get like if they if they had gone Suarez, you

487
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Speaker 2: wouldn't need to do this, And frankly, I would have

488
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Speaker 2: spent what it took to get Suarez ahead of what

489
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Speaker 2: they spent to get Ozuna.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that was my big point is because they weren't

491
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Speaker 8: willing to pony up a little extra money for guys

492
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Speaker 8: like Suarez or either of the international guys. They had

493
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Speaker 8: to take the best that was available rather than the

494
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Speaker 8: best thing for their specific situation. That was my main point.

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Speaker 8: I still think. Yeah, I mean, they added a guy

496
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Speaker 8: who's probably gonna hit twenty plus home runs. I don't

497
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Speaker 8: think he's the same player that.

498
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Speaker 9: He was a couple of years ago.

499
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Speaker 8: I don't expect him to hit more than like twenty five.

500
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Speaker 8: But even that that's a plus. It's just it makes

501
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Speaker 8: things a little bit more difficult for everyone, Whereas if

502
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Speaker 8: you had just spent a little bit more money earlier

503
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Speaker 8: in the offseason, you could have gotten more out of

504
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Speaker 8: the players that you acquired earlier this offseason.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't dispute that.

506
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Speaker 2: Now signing Ozoon has got to me cyan or for Cutch, right, uh,

507
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Speaker 2: Ozuna hasn't played in the field since twenty twenty three,

508
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Speaker 2: and Cuts just can't.

509
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Speaker 8: Yeah, No, I think so. I mean, I think there's

510
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Speaker 8: a chance that, like if we get into the year

511
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Speaker 8: towards the end of the year, if Cutch hasn't played anywhere,

512
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Speaker 8: maybe they have like a Andrew McCutchen day, they sign

513
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Speaker 8: them and let him play like one game in September,

514
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Speaker 8: especially if they're out of it. We saw the Braves

515
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Speaker 8: do something like this last year for Charlie Morton on

516
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Speaker 8: the final game of the year. But I think that's

517
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Speaker 8: the only way Andrew McCutchen plays another game for the Pirates.

518
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Speaker 8: I just don't see the fit. Honestly, I think he

519
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Speaker 8: might have fit better than Ozuna if you were looking

520
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Speaker 8: to make multiple moves as far as position players are concerned.

521
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Speaker 8: But I mean, I'm not sitting here suggesting that McCutcheon's

522
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Speaker 8: a better DH than a Zoom because he's not. But yeah,

523
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Speaker 8: I think this is it for him in Pittsburgh, and

524
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Speaker 8: it might just be it for him in general as.

525
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Speaker 1: A baseball play.

526
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's it for him period.

527
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Speaker 2: I think if he if he thought he could go

528
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Speaker 2: somewhere else, he wouldn't have made the fuss he has

529
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Speaker 2: about the power.

530
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Speaker 3: It's not wanting him, and it.

531
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Speaker 2: Has gotten messy with Katchin it.

532
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Speaker 3: Might even more so. Whose fault has it been so far?

533
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Speaker 8: I think there's blame to be equally spread around. I mean,

534
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Speaker 8: I think the Pirates obviously could have been better at

535
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Speaker 8: communicating with him. The communication about twenty twenty five should

536
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Speaker 8: have started at the tail end of last season. But

537
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Speaker 8: you you rewind back to that period of time, I mean,

538
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Speaker 8: you have a general manager who wasn't one hundred percent

539
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Speaker 8: convinced that he would be back, So it'd be foolish

540
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Speaker 8: for him to talk about twenty twenty five with a

541
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Speaker 8: free agent if he doesn't know if he's going to

542
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Speaker 8: be back. And also, I mean, Andrew McCutcheon wasn't necessarily

543
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Speaker 8: the biggest franchise cheerleader at that time. I don't think

544
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Speaker 8: he ever really truly got along with this current regime.

545
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Speaker 8: I don't think he ever really saw eye to eye

546
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Speaker 8: with Derek Shelton before he was dismissed. I think he

547
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 8: got along better with Don Kelly, but I think him

548
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Speaker 8: and Charrington, I mean, he vocally challenged a lot of

549
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Speaker 8: the things that Charrington's done in recent years on record,

550
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Speaker 8: and I'm sure that didn't sit well with the franchise.

551
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Speaker 8: So that that led to an awkward offseason where I mean,

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Speaker 8: I think McCutcheon expected to just be retained and the

553
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Speaker 8: Pirates made it clear that they were going to go

554
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Speaker 8: out and get whatever bat they could. And I mean,

555
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Speaker 8: if you look at pretty much everyone they pursued, most

556
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Speaker 8: of those guys were designated hitters.

557
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Speaker 1: I don't think that's the coincidence.

558
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Speaker 8: I think they were ready to move on. And yeah,

559
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 8: so I think there's there's blame on McCutcheon. I think

560
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Speaker 8: there's blame on Charrington. I think you can even blame

561
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Speaker 8: Nutting a little bit for not making it clear to

562
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Speaker 8: Sherrington that he'd be back and that he could start

563
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 8: planning on twenty twenty five. But that's how we got here.

564
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Speaker 8: It's unfortunate, but I think everyone gets faulled a little bit.

565
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Cutch is mostly at fault.

566
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Speaker 2: I think there is blame, yeah, with other people as well, Noah,

567
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 2: But I think it's good they're moving on and a

568
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: lot of people think I'm a Cutch hater.

569
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Speaker 4: I'm not.

570
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Speaker 2: I also don't think he's Willie Stargel, Roberto Klemeny or

571
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 2: Dave Parker.

572
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Speaker 3: He was a very good player.

573
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Speaker 2: From a somewhat okay era and then he came back

574
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 2: and he wasn't even that after leaving to get more

575
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Speaker 2: money and a better chance to win. So I think

576
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Speaker 2: he might have overplayed his hand a little bit in

577
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 2: that regard. Now we know they have a pretty good

578
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 2: top six batting on a good day, who's gonna play

579
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Speaker 2: short stop, third and catcher because it's a weak bottom third.

580
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I highly anticipate Connor Griffin making the

581
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 8: opening day ross really unless if he yeah, unless if

582
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Speaker 8: he absolutely lays an egg this spring, I think he's

583
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 8: their shortstop in Queen's on opening Day against the Mets.

584
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Speaker 4: I just.

585
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Speaker 8: All the moves they've made indicate that belief. I mean,

586
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Speaker 8: I've had a lot of conversation with people close to

587
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Speaker 8: Connor Griffin, and that seems to be the indication of

588
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 8: what the pirates are relaying to him is that this

589
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 8: is his opportunity to lose. Now if he goes out

590
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Speaker 8: there this spring and shows that he's not ready, I

591
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Speaker 8: don't think they're in the frame of mind to throw

592
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Speaker 8: a nineteen year old out there if he's not ready.

593
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Speaker 3: To him, you know what I mean. No, Yeah, it

594
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 3: has to be organic for me.

595
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Speaker 8: Yeah, And I think I think that's how they're looking

596
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 8: at it. It's just I think he's the best shortstop

597
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 8: in the organization, and if that's the case, then he

598
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 8: should be their opening day shortstop. If Nick Gonzalez looks

599
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 8: better than him at shortstop this spring, then Nick Gonzalez

600
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 8: will be the opening day shortstop. They're not going to

601
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 8: hand it to him. But at the same time, I

602
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 8: think he is the most talented option that they have

603
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Speaker 8: and obviously the one that has.

604
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Speaker 3: The most stupid Uh what about what about third base

605
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 3: and catcher?

606
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Speaker 8: Okay, so I mean catcher. I mean they have four

607
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 8: guys right there that I don't really know who will

608
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 8: end up being the primary guy. I mean, Davis is

609
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 8: going to be one of the two to break camp

610
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Speaker 8: because that seems this guy and Bubba Chandler has a

611
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 8: great relationship with him too, So he's going to be

612
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 8: their personal catcher and he at least provides something defensively,

613
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Speaker 8: and you can maybe get by with that a little

614
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 8: bit more than recent years because you did add seventy

615
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Speaker 8: home runs to your lineup this offseason. As far as

616
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Speaker 8: the other catcher is concerned, I think that's where if

617
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Speaker 8: they're going to make another move and if anyone is

618
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Speaker 8: going to get moved off of this major league roster.

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Speaker 8: I look at Joey Bart as a potential guy. He's

620
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Speaker 8: a way to clear up a couple of million dollars

621
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Speaker 8: in salary if they want to sign someone else or

622
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Speaker 8: add someone else that's making a little bit of money.

623
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Speaker 8: He has some value. I've talked to some sources around

624
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Speaker 8: the league. Are certain teams like him because of his

625
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 8: ability to hit left handed pitching. So and I and

626
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Speaker 8: I think he's the most expendable of them. I mean

627
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Speaker 8: he's he's the oldest of the group, he's the worst

628
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 8: defender of the group, and they got him for hardly

629
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 8: anything a couple of years ago. So I think Bart's

630
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 8: here unless they make a move. I could see Bart

631
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 8: a part of a trade package that brings in maybe

632
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 8: another left handed pitcher, maybe some help over at third base,

633
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 8: but I expect Davis and Bart to be there, if not,

634
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 8: as far as third base is concerned, I look at

635
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 8: that as Jared Triolo's job. He's not gonna hit the

636
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 8: ball well. But if you look at what else is

637
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 8: out there on the free agent market, he's the best

638
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 8: third baseman just by a defense alone, I think they'd

639
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 8: be Betty, I did be well set to maybe sign

640
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 8: a utility guy who could play both shortstop and third

641
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 8: Is it a little what's that?

642
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 3: Isn't that Nick Gonzalez? Isn't he the utility man in

643
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 3: your scenario?

644
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Speaker 8: Yeah? I think so, But I think you could probably

645
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 8: get somebody a little bit better defensively. I like Gonzalez

646
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 8: as you know, a guy who if someone goes down,

647
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 8: and I'm not confident with Gonzalez at third as much

648
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 8: as I am.

649
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 3: No arms enough.

650
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, but if I think yeah, I mean I think

651
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 8: Nick Gonzalez can get you by for a month at shortstop.

652
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 8: I don't think he can get you through one hundred

653
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 8: and sixty two games. And so that's why I just

654
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Speaker 8: look at third base as a place where they need

655
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Speaker 8: to add. It doesn't have to be anyone spectacular, although

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Speaker 8: they could certainly benefit from that. It's just because they

657
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Speaker 8: don't have anyone else who can play that position. So

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Speaker 8: if you go out and you trade, I've heard from

659
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Speaker 8: some conversations they're in the mix, maybe for Mark Biento's

660
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Speaker 8: from the Vets, who will no longer be a starter

661
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 8: because of Bhobachett signing. There you go and get Mark Bentos,

662
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 8: who plays defense with a shovel for a glove, but

663
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Speaker 8: he had twenty seven home runs a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 8: You at least have someone who can also play that position.

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Speaker 8: And now you have Triolo, who rotate between short and

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Speaker 8: third if Griffin isn't ready. So I look at that

667
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Speaker 8: as the place to really add to them as third base.

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Speaker 2: As I talked about, no, I like the top six

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Speaker 2: in the bucket order, but won't some of them get

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Speaker 2: somewhat neutralized by lefty righty on a given night.

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Speaker 3: And Who for instance, I mean, Oh.

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Speaker 8: He's the big question mark for me. Like like I

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00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 8: mentioned earlier, I mean, the defensive responsibilities are probably greater

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Speaker 8: than what he anticipated when he originally signed here. And

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Speaker 8: I mean he had a really good year against left

676
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Speaker 8: handed pitching last year, but his career as a whole

677
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Speaker 8: has he's not been very good against left handed pitching overall.

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Speaker 8: You also have a guy like Reynolds where I mean,

679
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Speaker 8: when you look at this lineup when they're facing alrighty,

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Speaker 8: it's gonna be all left handers in a row, and

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Speaker 8: he's gonna be the one breaking it up as a

682
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Speaker 8: switch hitter. So when they have a lefty on the mound,

683
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Speaker 8: they're gonna expect him to kind of carry the weight

684
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Speaker 8: a little bit more from that right side of the plate,

685
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Speaker 8: So he's gonna be challenged. Know I, Ozuna certainly helps

686
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Speaker 8: with their with their split issue that they had, but

687
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 8: they're gonna need other guys to step up. That's where

688
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Speaker 8: in addition, at third base, like the Entos I think

689
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Speaker 8: would go a long Way and another guy I think

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00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 8: a lot of people aren't necessarily talking about a ton

691
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 8: is Jake Mangam, a guy who at two ninety six

692
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 8: still twenty plus bases and was a really really good

693
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,959
Speaker 8: defender for the Tampa Bay Rays last year. He's gonna

694
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 8: be their fourth outfielder. He's a switch hitter Mark and

695
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 8: he's someone you can hit at the very top or

696
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Speaker 8: the very bottom of the order and he'll turn it

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Speaker 8: over and he'll create some runs. He's not gonna hit

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Speaker 8: a lot of home runs, but he is a scrappy guy,

699
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 8: and the city's gonna love his style of play.

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Speaker 9: Old school, gritty hustle guy.

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Speaker 1: That's uh.

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Speaker 8: His play will generate runs regardless of what side of

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00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 8: arm is on the mound.

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Speaker 3: What is Cruz gonna truly break out?

705
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: No is his talent dictates because I feel like the

706
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 2: Pirates can make the playoffs if he can go thirty thirty.

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Speaker 8: Oh, I totally agree. I mean, I think this comes

708
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 8: down This season really comes down to three guys, Cruise, Reynolds,

709
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 8: and Griffin. If two of those three guys play like

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00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 8: all stars, they're gonna be fine. Because I think the

711
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 8: floor is pretty high with Lal O'Hearn and Ozuna, and

712
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Speaker 8: so if you can get quality position player production from

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Speaker 8: half of your lineup with this pitching staff, they should

714
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 8: win at least eighty five games. Now that's the big question.

715
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 8: Cruise is obviously the big wildcard. Something that I feel

716
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 8: like has gone maybe not as addressed as it should

717
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 8: is there hasn't been a huge veteran Latin presence in

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Speaker 8: the clubhouse while Cruz has been here. They've had a

719
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Speaker 8: Rotas Chapman, who was great for the pitching staff while

720
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Speaker 8: he was here that one year, but the only real

721
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 8: impact veteran from the Latin community that they signed during

722
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 8: Cruz's time here was Carlos Santana and o'nel. Cruz was

723
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 8: pretty much out that entire season due to breaking his

724
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,439
Speaker 8: ankle on Easter Sunday. So I think maybe he could

725
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 8: benefit from having a veteran guy like Ozuna around who

726
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 8: can kind of take him under his wing. And I

727
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 8: also think that he and Reynolds both needed lineup protection

728
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 8: desperately last year, and I think CRU's more than Reynolds.

729
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 8: Even just talking with guys on the coaching staff last season,

730
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 8: they said everyone operates when you're pitching against the pirates,

731
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 8: you build your game plan around silencing O'Neil Cruz. If

732
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 8: you do that, you can figure out the rest.

733
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 4: Of the puzzle.

734
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 8: Well, it's a more difficult puzzle to figure out right now.

735
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 8: So maybe if you sandwich him between a Connor Griffin

736
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 8: in a Marcelo Zuna or whoever else, he sees a

737
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 8: little bit more that he likes to hit. His pitch

738
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 8: selection needs to be a lot better. But I think

739
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 8: once he starts seeing something that he can actually go after,

740
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 8: rather than knowing I'm only going to see one or

741
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 8: two good pitches to hit every game, the results might

742
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:52,280
Speaker 8: be improved.

743
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 2: Finally, Noah, Obviously their pitchings of strength, but I don't

744
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 2: feel there's depth, and I think they need a lefty starter.

745
00:36:58,520 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 3: Can they still add.

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00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 8: That's the big question that that might come into play

747
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 8: with Joey Bart, you know, trading away and salary and

748
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 8: also just depends. I mean, there's there's still a handful

749
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 8: of lefti's out there who haven't signed. I mean, they

750
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 8: have a really good top one hundred prospect left hand

751
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 8: or Hunter Barco. I don't anticipate him making the opening

752
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 8: day roster. The way I look at it, they need

753
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 8: a lefty to get them to June. They need to

754
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 8: sign someone who can just be league average until about

755
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 8: a month before the All Star break cover fifty sixty

756
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 8: innings and that should be worth a couple million dollars.

757
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 8: So I don't think they're completely overspent. I could see

758
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 8: them getting like an Andrew Heaney type who fits exactly

759
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 8: what I just described. He was fine until June and

760
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 8: then fell apart because by Junior you're gonna have Barco

761
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 8: up here, Jared Jones will be back, and the rotation

762
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 8: will look a little bit more crowded than what it

763
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 8: does right now. So I think, yeah, they're still shopping

764
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 8: for that lefty. They're looking for a bargain, and maybe

765
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 8: they have the trade to get one.

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00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 3: Uh No, A great stuff.

767
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for taking the time, good work

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00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 2: at the PG, and we'll talk again soon, I hope absolutely.

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Speaker 8: Mark, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 2: That's no house in the post, because that now it's

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Speaker 2: time to ask Mark anything eight three three four one

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what you said?

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Speaker 8: The X one.

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Speaker 2: I'm to ask Mark anything four one two three three

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Speaker 3: Let's go to Roddington Roddington, ask Mark any day?

795
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Speaker 4: What up?

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Speaker 8: Man?

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Speaker 1: What up?

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00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 5: Hey?

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00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 4: Mark?

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00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 9: Pitt's gonna get absolutely destroyed by Dukes tonight. So got

801
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 9: a two part question for you.

802
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 2: I didn't even mention that today in the show. I

803
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 2: don't give a rats, ask a butt, none of that.

804
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 2: Tom's even going to the game he's a big Pit fan.

805
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 2: I heard you bet a week's pay on Pitt.

806
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 9: I hope it works out well for him.

807
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 2: I don't know what the novelty act is.

808
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 9: Today, but his pit basketball officially dead and was cable

809
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 9: worse than Stallings.

810
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 2: No, the person that should be blaming most is Heather Like,

811
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 2: the the now former Mercifully athletic director. She did just

812
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 2: a terrible job with Pitt in her effort to to

813
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,919
Speaker 2: you know, satisfy and this proofs I'm not a lib.

814
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 2: In her effort to to make sports that nobody cares

815
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 2: about prominent, she she made it a small sports school.

816
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 2: Football and basketball are all that matter, all that matter,

817
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 2: and they both crumbled on her watch, especially basketball. And

818
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 2: you know, she built that all purpose athletic center that

819
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 2: Pitt had no need for because it would never draw

820
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,479
Speaker 2: any money. And women's volleyball is great, but nobody cares

821
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 2: except a couple of days a year. And men's soccer

822
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 2: is great, but nobody cares even a couple of days

823
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,720
Speaker 2: a year. Heather Like made Pitt into a small sports school.

824
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 2: She is the one primarily to blame.

825
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 4: Agree she sucked.

826
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 2: I mean, Capele's a rotten coach and the problem too,

827
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 2: that Capel and Nardozzi have. Nardoozi thinks he's an East Lansing,

828
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 2: Caple thinks he's Endureham. They don't understand nobody cares, and

829
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 2: they don't understand that acting like an ass is something

830
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 2: they could do.

831
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 3: There but not here.

832
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 2: Agreed, thank you, because they're both a couple of jerks,

833
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 2: Capel and especially Nardoozi.

834
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Speaker 8: Let's go to a talkback, Mark, Why do you think

835
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 8: they don't have full checking in women's hockey at any level? Uh?

836
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Speaker 2: We talked about that with Peter Maguire earlier. I just

837
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 2: think they thinking to be too risky. You know, women

838
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 2: aren't built the same as men. You probably learned about

839
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 2: that in in health in junior high. But are they

840
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 2: more fragile? That's a good question. I'd let him hit.

841
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 2: I would take every sport played by most men and

842
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 2: women and have the rules and the method of competition

843
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 2: be exactly the same. Case in point. Back when women's

844
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 2: tennis was battling to become recognized and better compensated, they

845
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 2: wanted equal this, equal that, equal everything, and they deserved

846
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:20,479
Speaker 2: it for years. I think women's tennis was a bigger draw,

847
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 2: bigger buzz for it than men's tennis, even way back

848
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 2: during the Billy Jean King, Chris Evert Martine and Nevradlova era.

849
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 2: But if you want equal pay, then the matches should

850
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Speaker 2: be best of five sets. If the men are playing

851
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 2: best of five sets, the women should play best of

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00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 2: five sets. In hockey, if the men are hitting, the

853
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 2: women should be hitting. To me, that's just common sense

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Speaker 4: Nine x