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Speaker 1: Time to talk Steelers with our man at the Athletic

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Speaker 1: He is Mike de Fabo. Mike beating Baltimore has restored

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Speaker 1: the narrative, Hasn't it all as well? To quote Kevin

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Speaker 1: Bacon in Animal House, Well, I don't know about.

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Speaker 2: All as well.

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Speaker 3: I think all is the same as it is, and

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Speaker 3: the same as it's always been, and the same as

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Speaker 3: it's going to be. If you thought that the Steelers

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Speaker 3: were going to go nine to eight or ten and

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Speaker 3: seven and probably have a hard time winning a playoff game,

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Speaker 3: probably keep Mike Tomlin, then yeah, I think that all

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Speaker 3: is well. If you think that the Steelers are going

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Speaker 3: to do something different, if they're going to get over

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Speaker 3: the hump and win a playoff game, if they're going

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Speaker 3: to prove that they belong among the contenders and.

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Speaker 2: THEYFC, I don't think that all is so well. It

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Speaker 2: sure seems like while the.

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Speaker 3: Steelers now are on the right path to make the

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Speaker 3: playoffs and on the right path to win the division,

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Speaker 3: I don't know that they fundamentally change anything about the

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Speaker 3: direction of their franchise.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 1: I think they're projects of how bad the division is

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Speaker 1: and how disappoint Baltimore has been not least this best Sunday,

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Speaker 1: But this game Monday Night's tricky, isn't it, Mike, Miami

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Speaker 1: seems a trap game. Four straight wins for the Dolphins

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Speaker 1: and they can definitely run the ball with the A train.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that this could be a bad matchup

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Speaker 3: for the Steelers. So you look at since Week ten,

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Speaker 3: the Miami Dolphins have been the best running team in

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Speaker 3: the NFL. They're averaging one hundred and ninety two rushing

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Speaker 3: yards per game over that same span, no team has

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Speaker 3: allowed more rushing yards per game defensively than the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 2: So the same Pittsburgh Steelers that had a hard time

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Speaker 2: handling the running game with James Cook and the.

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Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills, the same Steelers that had a hard time

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Speaker 3: containing Derrick Henry and the Ravens rushing attack.

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Speaker 2: Now we're gonna see if the Steelers can do any

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Speaker 2: better against the Dolphins.

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Speaker 3: And I think that that's gonna be one of the

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Speaker 3: keys of the game going into this one is just

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Speaker 3: is there going to be any type of a difference

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Speaker 3: against a pretty good running attack that's doing it currently

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Speaker 3: better than anybody else.

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Speaker 1: And it's also worth noting that during this four game

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Speaker 1: winning streak. The Dolphins defense has been impenetrable, and while

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Speaker 1: the Steelers got a lot of breaks at enough points

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Speaker 1: to win against Baltimore, I'm not sure their offense was

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Speaker 1: very good beyond Rogers the Metcalf.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, That's what I'm curious, is like, are they going

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Speaker 5: to be able to replicate this because for so much

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Speaker 5: of the season we've been kind of clamoring for them

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Speaker 5: to attack deep downfield a little bit more, And finally

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Speaker 5: they did it, you know, four for four on.

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Speaker 2: Passes that traveled twenty plus yards.

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Speaker 3: In the air, and coming into that game, Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 3: had completed just seven passes all season that had traveled

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Speaker 3: twenty plus yards in the air.

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Speaker 2: And so, you know, I'm doing a story for the

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Speaker 2: Athletic tomorrow looking into how they get it.

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Speaker 3: A big part of that was that they put the

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Speaker 3: Ravens in situations when they knew that they were going

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Speaker 3: to get man coverage. They knew that they could dictate

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Speaker 3: based on personnel groupings, based on formations, based on.

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Speaker 2: Preset motions and shifts. They could get the Ravens into.

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Speaker 3: Man vere that was going to leave DK Metcalf one

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Speaker 3: on one and to Metcalf's credit.

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Speaker 2: He was able to win in those situations.

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Speaker 3: He really showed up when they needed him, and Aaron

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Speaker 3: Rodgers showed up when they needed him.

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Speaker 2: And for Aaron Rodgers, I think that it was a major.

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Speaker 3: Bounce back performance because he had had three really poor

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Speaker 3: outings and you were starting to wonder. You know, it's

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Speaker 3: kind of shades of Russell Wilson at the end or

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Speaker 3: Ben Roethlisberger at.

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Speaker 2: The end of seasons that we've seen in the past.

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Speaker 2: So it reminds me of like that country song where

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Speaker 2: it says, I'm not as good as I once one was,

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Speaker 2: but I'm as good once as I ever was. That's

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Speaker 2: kind of what you're betting on with the Steelers. If

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Speaker 2: you want to be an optimist.

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Speaker 3: Right now, can you get Aaron Rodgers' best or Aaron

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Speaker 3: rodgers best currently at forty one years old when you

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Speaker 3: need it most?

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Speaker 2: And I think that that's.

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Speaker 3: Really what their hopes of when the playoff game are

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Speaker 3: tied to directly and winning big games in general. Are

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Speaker 3: you going to get that good Aaron Rodgers performance that

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Speaker 3: we've seen a couple times this year, or are you

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Speaker 3: going to get the down performance that we've seen you know,

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Speaker 3: probably about the same number of times.

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Speaker 1: I agree, but he's forty two, Mike, that's two full

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Speaker 1: years younger than Philip Rivers, but certainly older than everybody else.

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Speaker 1: And sticking with that Baltimore game, I know deserves a

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Speaker 1: funny word, but that the Steelers deserve.

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Speaker 6: To win that game.

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Speaker 1: They got out gained by one hundred yards, only had

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Speaker 1: the ball for twenty six minutes, and got every big call.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know afterwards, like you had players like DK

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Speaker 3: Metcalf saying the better team won and kind of talking

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Speaker 3: their trash after they won. And I think that's what

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Speaker 3: you're getting that mark, Like, really everything that was fifty

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Speaker 3: to fifty went in.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers way. They were very fortunate. If if the

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Speaker 2: Isaiah likely non touchdown had.

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Speaker 3: Happened to the Pittsburgh Steelers right now and they had

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Speaker 3: lost that game, people would be in an outrage and

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Speaker 3: saying that the refs had stolen the game from the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: You know, that call went in the Steelers favor. The

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Speaker 3: simultaneous possession where Aaron Rodgers may or may not.

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Speaker 2: Have been accept it, that went in the Steelers favor.

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Speaker 3: The running into the long snapper call, which was kind

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Speaker 3: of tiki tack that went into Steelers favor.

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Speaker 2: So I agree with you. I was sitting there and

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Speaker 2: I had two versions of the story written to publish immediately.

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Speaker 3: One of them was for the fifth consecutive or for

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Speaker 3: the fifth time the season, the Steelers have blown a

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Speaker 3: pretty hefty halftime lead, and they were one or two

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Speaker 3: inches or one or two questionable calls away from doing

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Speaker 3: it again.

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Speaker 1: We're talking to Mike, the favor of the athletic. He's

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Speaker 1: Why can't the Steelers run the ball, Mike, That's supposed

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Speaker 1: to be part of their identity.

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Speaker 3: It's a great question, because it absolutely is. You know,

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Speaker 3: when they hired Arthur Smith, the reason why they brought

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Speaker 3: least reputation.

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Speaker 2: Of coordinating effective running attacks. And last year, in his

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Speaker 2: first year, they ran the ball a lot, but they

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Speaker 2: didn't run the ball well at all. There's two very

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Speaker 3: They were near the top of the league in attempts,

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Speaker 2: This year they're not running the ball very much and

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Speaker 3: And I think it's a problem because you know, part

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Speaker 3: of the whole formula was supposed to be that, you know,

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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers might not be what he once was, but

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Speaker 3: they wouldn't need him to be if they had this

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Speaker 3: great defense and effective running game. Where's the defense and

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Speaker 3: where's the running game?

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Speaker 2: Because it's just not there.

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Speaker 3: And I'm afraid that if this is going to be

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Speaker 3: your current formula, then you're expecting a lot out of

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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers and I think you're expecting more.

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Speaker 2: Than Aaron Rodgers can provide you on a week to

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Speaker 2: week basis. And there's really not a good excuse for it.

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Speaker 3: And I think that Arthur Smith should be facing a

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Speaker 3: lot of criticism for this because you give this guy

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Speaker 3: who has a reputation of running the football two first

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Speaker 3: round offensive picks, a tackle, a second round pick at center,

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Speaker 3: and you know a running back that seems to fit

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Speaker 3: his skill set in Cale Johnson, a third round pick, Like,

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Speaker 3: what more could you possibly.

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Speaker 2: Need to run the ball effectively? Yet they just cannot.

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Speaker 2: And so to me, that has to.

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Speaker 3: Fall squarely on the shoulders of coaching, not only Arthur Smith,

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Speaker 3: but also the offensive line coach Pat Meyer.

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Speaker 1: Flip side of that, Mike, why can't the Steelers stop

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Speaker 1: the run that's also supposed to be part of their identity.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree with you. I think that.

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Speaker 3: I think, honestly, they need to get bigger, and they

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Speaker 3: And they did take one step in that right direction

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Speaker 3: with Derek Harmon, and the stats are striking when he

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Speaker 2: It's basically one hundred yards per game difference in terms of.

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Speaker 3: What the Steelers are allowing on the ground. And so

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Speaker 3: I think that it's just going to take repeated drafts

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Speaker 3: to address that. They're going to have to replace Cam Hayward.

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Speaker 3: You know, Keanu Benton, I think they expected him to

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Speaker 2: Point, and I think that he's you know, he's been

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Speaker 3: And then in terms of their inside linebackers, as much

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Speaker 3: as I am a fan of Peyton Wilson, and I

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Speaker 3: even he did some unique things, he represented a strong

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Speaker 3: safety at times in that game, which.

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Speaker 2: Shows his unique skill set. When you put him in

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Speaker 3: In a rundown situation, there's times when he's getting out

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Speaker 3: and all of those components are adding up to a

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Speaker 2: Stopping the run.

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Speaker 3: And when you can't stop the run, you've got major

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Speaker 1: Is the secondary playing well or is it just hanging

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Speaker 1: by a thread. I do give Pierre in Eccles credit

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Speaker 1: because I think if not for them, and they want

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Speaker 1: required Mike, if not for them, that secondary'd be just

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Speaker 3: I mean they've given up a lot of passing yards

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Speaker 3: I think that it's weird because James Pierre is deserves

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Speaker 2: I mean for him to have an interception. He's a

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Speaker 3: Defensive back and fits into I guess what they're looking for,

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Speaker 3: which is the type of player that can produce splash,

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Speaker 3: which has been such a key part of what this

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Speaker 2: Done when they've been able to get off of the field.

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Speaker 3: But in general, this is nowhere what like what the

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Speaker 3: they're sitting at nine and eight or they're headed towards

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Speaker 1: I want to get back to Arthur Smith for a second,

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Speaker 1: because Mike, I wholeheartily agree with you. I think he

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Speaker 1: should be under a lot more fire than he is.

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Speaker 1: I think his offense stinks. There's not one thing it

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Speaker 3: Coming in and basically, you know, beating the Steelers over

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Speaker 1: Finally, Mike, Aaron Rodgers played real good against Baltimore, and

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Speaker 3: Funniest parts was he was asked why he felt so

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Speaker 3: So even in a win when they should be celebrating,

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Speaker 3: So you're right he had the right to be to

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Speaker 1: Mike is always great stuff. We'll do it again next week,

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Speaker 2: All right, sounds good, Thank you. Mark.

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Speaker 6: That's Mike de.

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Speaker 1: Fabo from the Athletic Calls on the fifteen so get

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Speaker 6: That's great stuff from the Fabo.

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Speaker 1: But call now eight three three four one two w

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Speaker 7: It's the dog mark with all the dogs there and

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Speaker 1: In the fifty ninth minute Liverpool almost benefited by an

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Speaker 6: Just now, uh.

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon, Good afternoon.

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Speaker 8: Earlier, you were talking with Mike and you asked him

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Speaker 8: identity is an identity crisis. They don't have an offense,

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Speaker 4: I think their early solution at the moment is Boss.

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Speaker 8: While they can depend on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, the kicker is never a solution, and they

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Speaker 6: Who'd he ever beat?

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Speaker 1: But I wish they had a worst kicker and that

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Speaker 6: Like you tell me what about that offense is good?

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, here's basically the offense in a nutshell. Bru

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Speaker 1: Roger's gonna go out there and think of something. You

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Speaker 1: But other than that, who do they have that they

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Speaker 1: for fatso it just you know, it's an awful offense.

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Speaker 1: It's an awfully run team. There's almost nothing about the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: I currently like, thank you for the call, and you

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Speaker 1: have there first in a division. We'll see how far

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Speaker 6: It almost broke through there but did not.

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Speaker 6: The Notre Dame thing, it's funny.

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Speaker 1: I don't feel like we're talking enough about the Notre

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Speaker 6: I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Notre Dame is really mad at the ACC.

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Speaker 1: Realize the Penguins are only six four and two at home,

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00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,240
Speaker 1: eight three and four on the road. What's gone wrong

446
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 1: at home? And what have they got to do to

447
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 1: kind of straighten that out?

448
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,199
Speaker 4: Good afteroon double m U. I don't think there's anything

449
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 4: you can just say, oh, it's this, or it's it's

450
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,200
Speaker 4: that they've played the few amount of home games. Nobody's

451
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,440
Speaker 4: played fewer in the National Hockey League. So there is that.

452
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:27,720
Speaker 2: You know, they've had a.

453
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Speaker 4: Couple of sinkers on home ice, I mean, just to

454
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 4: be blunt about it. And you know there's something about

455
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,680
Speaker 4: this team when they get on the road that they

456
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,640
Speaker 4: play a simpler game, that they play a more calculated

457
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 4: game and a more predictable game to each other. So

458
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,680
Speaker 4: there's that. I don't think they're they're trying to dress

459
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,120
Speaker 4: and impress. I mean a lot of teams maybe are

460
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 4: guilty on home ice, are trying to do too much,

461
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 4: and you throw in the wild factor and and a

462
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 4: lot of times they overpass on home ice, trying to

463
00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 4: go for that pretty backdoor tap in type of goal.

464
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,399
Speaker 4: And I guess the Penguins have been guilty of that also.

465
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,879
Speaker 4: But I really I can't think of one thing that

466
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 4: you can say, oh, it's this. But you know, after

467
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 4: all that being said, you've got a five game homestand

468
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Speaker 4: coming up here, Mark, with some huge points on the line.

469
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Speaker 4: And I'm sure you look at the Metropolitan Division like

470
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 4: I do. From second to the seventh, there's our eighth

471
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,639
Speaker 4: I should say there's seven teams all separated by four points.

472
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 4: That's how tight it is right now. You can't go

473
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 4: on any kind of slide, and if you get hot

474
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 4: at all, then you're gonna be right up in the penthouse.

475
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Speaker 1: I do feel good about the way they're playing right now.

476
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:35,880
Speaker 1: I thought it was a good road trip. And we'll

477
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Speaker 1: talk about the Dallas game in the second. But how

478
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 1: they gonna get by without Gino?

479
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 4: Well, you got big hazy Come on, Mark, No, I mean,

480
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:47,879
Speaker 4: Kevin Hazes is gonna fill in the ring's gonna do

481
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,919
Speaker 4: his absolute best, and you know, I wouldn't be surprised

482
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 4: if Sid's got another level. And we've seen this before

483
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 4: from Sid. As good as Sid's been all year, he's

484
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,879
Speaker 4: done it in the past, and it doesn't have to

485
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,159
Speaker 4: be one guy. But you know, I think that that

486
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 4: second line, that that Gino was on, that line with Brazo, UH,

487
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 4: and now with Hayes and Uh and Anthony Manta, I

488
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,439
Speaker 4: think they gotta they gotta raise their game because you

489
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,640
Speaker 4: know that second line without Brazol was it was mostly Geno, right,

490
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 4: Gino was the one really driving the bus offensively, UH,

491
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 4: And they got to get back to scoring again and

492
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 4: they can't. I talked to Justin Brazo this morning. He said,

493
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 4: you know, I understand that Kevin Hayes is not of

494
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 4: Guinea Malkin, but he does things similar to Gino as

495
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 4: far as a big man hangs on to pucks and

496
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Speaker 4: and he says, I can I can read off of

497
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 4: Kevin Hayes just as well as I can if Guiney Malkins.

498
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 4: So I'm looking for big things from that line. And

499
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 4: again this this team has got to get that consistent

500
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 4: second tier bottom six. What ever you want to call

501
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 4: it mark. That's scoring. Look how big that goal was

502
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 4: from Connor Doer the other night in Dallas. I mean,

503
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 4: you need you need more of that. And I'm not

504
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 4: saying they have to score every game, but a little

505
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 4: more consistent than they were in the month of November.

506
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: Well, I'd like to see the kid line maybe assume

507
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 1: the second line minutes and get some more production from them.

508
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 1: And that's assuming a lot too, because they've not produced

509
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 1: a ton on even strength between the three of them.

510
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 6: But I kind of like the way they've looked.

511
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,479
Speaker 4: No, you're right, they get us kind of jumping up

512
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 4: and down a little bit because you know, as far

513
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 4: as the eye test, you like what you see right

514
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 4: between mcrordy, Kindle and Covenan, and at the end of

515
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 4: the day, you kind of get to that point, Okay,

516
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 4: two to three, two three, four games, you guys work hard,

517
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,120
Speaker 4: you look good. But at the end of the day, right,

518
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,120
Speaker 4: we need some biscuits in the basket. And I think

519
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 4: they know that. I think I think they realize that

520
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 4: they're they're going to be counting on energy mentioned with

521
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,679
Speaker 4: especially without Gino, that all hands on deck here as

522
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 4: far as guys chipping in offensively, and all three of

523
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 4: those guys can put the puck in the net. Cobnan,

524
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 4: I know he's only got one goal in what twenty

525
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,360
Speaker 4: five games, but at the end of the day, he's

526
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 4: a guy that has a good shot, He's got the skills.

527
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 4: He should be able to score more. And the same

528
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 4: as Ruschki mcgrdy who hasn't found the back of the

529
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 4: net yet, so you know, and Kindle half of his

530
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 4: goals have been on the power play. So yeah, there's

531
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 4: enough skill on that line where they should be able

532
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 4: to chip in offensively a little bit more.

533
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: I'm not outraged by Shiloffs being in goal tonight and

534
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: play in Jari. Maybe just disappointed from a fan standpoint

535
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 1: borking because Jari has been playing so well.

536
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 4: He has, But the other side of it is Archer

537
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 4: Sheiloss has not played that much and I think it's

538
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 4: safe to say that he's lost a couple of mph

539
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 4: off of the fastball, and so this is a big

540
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 4: game for Archer Silos. He's going to get back on

541
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 4: that horse and get back to dominating, as well as

542
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 4: the Penguins playing better in front of him. He goes

543
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 4: hand in hand, but Archer Silos came out of the

544
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 4: gate so hot in the month of October, cooled off

545
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 4: in November, and then here we are flipping the calendar

546
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 4: to December where the Penguins are two ozho to one

547
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 4: after kind of a wonky November going four to five

548
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 4: and three. You want to see Archer Siloff's numbers dip

549
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 4: down also in November. You want to see him get

550
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 4: back on that horse and see a little more consistency

551
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 4: from him.

552
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 6: So the big game for him tonight.

553
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny, borky. We hear about interested Edmonton

554
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: has in Tristan Jari, And before the season I would

555
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: have said, Okay, you got to make that move because

556
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: Morrishov's the future and Jari has two years left on

557
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: his deal after this. But the way he's playing and

558
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 1: the why and where the team is in the standings,

559
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: you really can't consider trading Jari right now.

560
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 4: Can you make up your mind? Mark? What do you want?

561
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 9: Yeah?

562
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 4: I mean back in October you wanted them dealt and

563
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 4: you were thinking, man, if he gets on a hot streak,

564
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 4: maybe we could deal Tristan. And now we're playing well

565
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 4: and you're.

566
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 10: Thinking, oh, who whoa whoa whoa, whoa, we'll wear them

567
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 10: in here.

568
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 4: Oh no, no, I want to keep him.

569
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 10: Now make your decision.

570
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 1: Okay, I will make the year. I will make my decision.

571
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 1: I want to trade him. But but but it's not

572
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: a vacuum in the locker room. Certainly isn't a vacuum.

573
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 4: No, I get it, I get it. But yo, y'all bloom.

574
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 4: Chris is playing pretty good again down in Wilkesbury, and

575
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 4: I think the jury's still out on him. I think

576
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 4: you'll agree. I think Marishov, I think we're pretty sure

577
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 4: what we have there. Uh. And she has become a

578
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 4: little bit of a question mark here because, as I mentioned,

579
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 4: this month of November, uh, and not a ton of experience.

580
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 10: So no, I get it, and.

581
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 4: I'm busting your cahunes just a little bit here.

582
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 6: But no, I don't. I don't believe because because I

583
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 6: can't make up my mind either.

584
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,479
Speaker 4: No, No, I can't. And if I said to you

585
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 4: back in October, I said, hey, Mark, what if what

586
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 4: if christ and Darry gets on a bit of a

587
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 4: heater and we roll into December, you know, and he's

588
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 4: got you know, he's top five in the NHL and wins.

589
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 4: What do you want to do.

590
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 10: You wouldn't flinch. You'd say, let's move them, let's let's

591
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 10: move them, let's get something good for him, right, and well,

592
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 10: now you got what you wanted, and now you don't

593
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 10: want to move him. So that's what I'm saying, like,

594
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 10: make up your flip in mind, what do you want

595
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 10: to do with it?

596
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 4: He's given you everything he has here and now and

597
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 4: now how everybody wants a hold on to him and

598
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 4: you're like, whoa, wha, wha, whoa wah, Wait a minute.

599
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 10: He gives us our best chance to make the playoffs.

600
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 4: So I get it, man. That's why, Uh, you know,

601
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 4: I don't think any of us want to sit in

602
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 4: that hot seat that Kyle Dubas uh, you know, resides

603
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 4: in day in and day out, because it's not that easy.

604
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 4: Because you're right, there's a motion involved, right, there's a

605
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 4: locker room involved, and so you know, at the end

606
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 4: of the day, I think we should all just sit

607
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 4: back and enjoy what Tristan Jarry's doing because it's pretty

608
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 4: pretty special what he's doing considering where he was last year,

609
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 4: sent down to Wilsbury twice. You know, he ends up,

610
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 4: you know, becoming a father in the springtime. Maybe that's

611
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,959
Speaker 4: changed things a little bit for him in his perspective

612
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 4: on the life and life as an NHL goaltender. But

613
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, let's just enjoy it

614
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 4: and let Kyle do. Butis worry about those tough decisions.

615
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 6: Here's a tough decision too.

616
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: The Penguins, I thought played great at Dallas, lost in

617
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: a shootout. That's oh and four and shootouts this year.

618
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: They've lost eight straight shootouts dating back to last year.

619
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: How do you fix that? Because this time it wasn't

620
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: on the goaltending Jari stopped two out of three.

621
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, eight straight and twelve of thirteen. And you go

622
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 4: with the same guys every single time. I'm gonna I'm

623
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 4: gonna walk on the tightrope here just a little bit

624
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 4: because I don't want this to sound like a negative

625
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 4: swipe to those guys. But it's the same guys and

626
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 4: they pretty much do the same thing every single time.

627
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 4: It's so predictable. It's mind numbing to me. Go with

628
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 4: different guys, Go with different guys. Find out what Billy

629
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 4: Corgnan's numbers were in the American hockey They were pretty good.

630
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 6: They were pretty good.

631
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 4: Okay, partner that I'm with you, put number forty one

632
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 4: number one, put them in their number one shooter. Change

633
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 4: it up and practice it more. You should practice it

634
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 4: every day. You've lost eighth straight, twelve or thirteen in shootouts.

635
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 4: With that kind of talent on the ice, it's it's unbelievable.

636
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 4: And it's a huge reason why the Penguins missed the playoffs.

637
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 4: Not so much last year because it was double digits,

638
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 4: but the two previous.

639
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 10: Years it was a huge reason.

640
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 4: Because this has become a three year now a four

641
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 4: year problem for the Penguins, and it was a huge

642
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 4: reason two years ago and three years ago why the

643
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 4: Penguins missed the playoffs by such a short margin.

644
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: Fort Here's a weird stat. The Penguins lead the league

645
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: in power play conversion. They're lasting the league in power

646
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: play opportunities. Why are they getting so few opportunities?

647
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 4: I think it's twofold number one. They suck at diving, okay,

648
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 4: and I'm I'm pretty much serious about that. Yeah, there's

649
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 4: an art to embellishing and doing it in a very

650
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 4: smart way where you don't embarrass the rest and you

651
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 4: don't get an embellishment. Call number one. Number two. I

652
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 4: don't know. Again, choose my words carefully here. I don't

653
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 4: know if they go about their business and smoothing the

654
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 4: referees in a very professional way. I mean I I

655
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 4: had so much nervous energy when I played. I'd always

656
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:42,479
Speaker 4: be talking to the rest because they're the only ones

657
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 4: that really would talk to me back, you know, And

658
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 4: I would and and when I needed a call and

659
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 4: I needed to dive, mark and embellish, I get that call.

660
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 4: So get form a better relationship with the referees. Number

661
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 4: two and number three. Just put yourself in a better

662
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 4: position to draw those calls. I mean, you know, take

663
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 4: it to the net, moral, all the little things, you know,

664
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 4: when you're killing the penalty. Put yourself in a better

665
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 4: position to feel a little tug and stuff like that

666
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 4: to get those calls. So I think they just need

667
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 4: to go about their business a little bit different and

668
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 4: finding a way and have it a little bit closer

669
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 4: to the front of the brain of driving to the

670
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 4: net knowing you're probably not going to score. But I'm

671
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 4: gonna drive to the net here because I'm pretty sure

672
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 4: I can. I can get the call and put my team.

673
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: On the power play by and we talked about the

674
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: kid line briefly early. What do you think the Rutger

675
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: McGroarty individually. We've not yet brought.

676
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 6: Him up this year.

677
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 4: Player a person, a player.

678
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 6: He's a great guy, talks a lot, but I like that.

679
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, same No, great guy and uh he just

680
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 4: you know, Mark keep being around enough players. Usually when

681
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 4: thirty seconds after talking to a guy, you know, even

682
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 4: though if he's full of BS, or if he's a fraud,

683
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 4: or if he's the real deal record McGarty's the real deal,

684
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 4: you can just look into his eyes and go, this guy,

685
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 4: this guy gets it. He gets that air quotes. Is

686
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 4: it okay? So that's that's as far as the person.

687
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 4: As far as the player, I like him a lot.

688
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 4: I love that he worked on this skating last year

689
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 4: and in the short time what two or three months

690
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 4: time in Wilsbury, he picked up at least half a step.

691
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 4: I mean that's remarkable that hardly ever happens. So he

692
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 4: identified what might be a weakness at the NHL level

693
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 4: and he corrected it. I think he's got a ton

694
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 4: of talent, but I think it's more of like Patrick Hornquist,

695
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 4: you know, greasy dirty, go to the net.

696
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 6: Type of goals.

697
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 4: I don't think he's a dangler in any way, shape

698
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 4: or form that He's got to find a better way

699
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 4: to the giving goes and those plays around the net

700
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 4: where you get the deflections and the rebounds, more of

701
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 4: those type of goals.

702
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: Boorky, what do you make Anaheim? I thought they'd be better.

703
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: I didn't think they'd be a top the Pacific. I

704
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: don't like him in the back. I love him up front.

705
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: They're an interesting team, aren't they.

706
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 4: They are kind of you know, the way the Penguins

707
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 4: are incredibly entertaining right now, win or lose. They entertained

708
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 4: the pants off of you. And I think Anaheim's that

709
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 4: way too, because they got a bunch of young players

710
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 4: that are just they're just fun. Mark, They're just fun

711
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 4: to watch. I mean this Leo Carlson, who a couple

712
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 4: of years ago, you remember Anaheim was doing the whole

713
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 4: load management with him where they were holding them out

714
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 4: of games because he was eighteen years old, like Ben Kendall. Well,

715
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 4: look at how well it has worked for Leo Carlson.

716
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 4: I mean, they got this Beckett Seneca is just a

717
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 4: nineteen year old kid. He was taking third overall two

718
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 4: years ago. And then they got you know, Truba, and

719
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 4: they got you know, guys like that Crider, like older

720
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 4: players that are are good in the locker room and

721
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 4: good around those kids. And Rad cool Goodis is their captain,

722
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 4: the butcher, you know. So they've got some characters with character,

723
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 4: and they play a certain style and under you know

724
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 4: Joe Quinville coach Q back in the league. They have

725
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 4: a different swagger and a different belief and they're playing

726
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 4: running gun because they give up a ton mark but

727
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 4: they score a ton because only the Colorado Avalanche have

728
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 4: scored more goals than the Anaheim Ducks. And they're number

729
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 4: one in their division and they're making a big push

730
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 4: to make the playoffs, which would be believable. It's not

731
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 4: supposed to turn around as quick as it has. But

732
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 4: here's the last thing I'll tell you is it's it's

733
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 4: tough to see the ana High Ducks without Johnny Gibson

734
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 4: in the net, right we just expect him to be in.

735
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 4: And now that Dustall is their number one, he's not

736
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 4: even gonna be in. He's hurt right now. We're gonna

737
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 4: get Jillie Husso tonight. It's just a fun team to watch,

738
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 4: so if you're on defensive, I'll come into the game tonight,

739
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 4: come down, just because you will be entertained more than

740
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 4: anything else you're gonna watch.

741
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 2: On TV tonight.

742
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 6: I said that earlier, Borkie.

743
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: The Penguins, the way they've played, and not least on

744
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,479
Speaker 1: this road trip, they merit your attendance tonight.

745
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 6: Good stuff, Borkie. I'll see at the rink.

746
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 4: You at the rink, enjoy the double good hockey talk.

747
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,280
Speaker 1: That's the two nineer Phil bork Check him out tonight

748
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:41,720
Speaker 1: radio TV.

749
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,879
Speaker 6: He does it all. But now it's time to ask

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00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 6: Mark Anything.

751
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: Uh eight three three four one two w xdx conn

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Speaker 1: out eight three three four one two w xdx, or

753
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: you can leave a talk back via the microphone icon

754
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 1: at the iHeartMedia app Ask Mark Anything A three three

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Speaker 1: four one two wxdx.

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00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 7: It's time to submit your questions for Ask Mark Anything.

757
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 2: Use your free iHeartRadio app and sap the microphone icon

758
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 2: to send your questions to the super genius instantly.

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00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 6: Kids Travis.

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Speaker 1: Every weekday at ten am, always a solid time starting

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Speaker 1: your workday.

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Speaker 6: Commercial freight on one DX.

763
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Speaker 2: What do you want? What do you want? Damn it

764
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 2: DX at one five nine.

765
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 7: It's a dog part with all the dogs there and

766
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 7: the people. You say that you don't really know because

767
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 7: it's the dog park. It's a dog part.

768
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: Okay, it's it's one Neill Liverpool in injury time. I

769
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: don't know how much stoppage time left. Saba's last scored

770
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: on a penalty in the eighty eighth minute. Very exciting,

771
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: which is more than I can say with this show.

772
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: This show has been like kind of dead for better

773
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: or worse. But I don't blame that on me. I

774
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: blame that on you. Uh, I'm not as mark anything

775
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 1: brought to us by People's Natural Gas Peoples and Essensial

776
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: Utilities Company, Safe Reliable natural Gas Energy. I don't know

777
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: what to bring up that people want to talk about it.

778
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 1: I want to thought the Schwarber contract, the Phillies signing

779
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 1: him that after the fact upping the ante on the

780
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 1: con by the Pirates. The offer to schwarberd was originally

781
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 1: reported as four years one hundred plus million, and since

782
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: that has been upgraded to four years one hundred and

783
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: twenty million, which means the offer was twenty percent less

784
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: than the Phillies. But it just happens to be the

785
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: same annual average value at thirty million.

786
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 6: And I don't believe the Pirates offered that.

787
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: For second, I believe that was upped afterwards to make

788
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: it look like they just missed. I don't think missing

789
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: by twenty percent is just missing by any means. But hey,

790
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: the Pirates are a con and they get support from

791
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 1: the media when it comes to stuff like this.

792
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 6: Are they lying, I'm assuming yeah, because they always have.

793
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: I'm assuming the offer was probably it was originally reported

794
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: as four years, one hundred and million plus.

795
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 6: Maybe it's one hundred and one.

796
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, but they never had a

797
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: chance to get him, as the point, never had a

798
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 1: chance to get him. And then you have the Kettle

799
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: Marte thing where the Pirates were supposedly trying to trade

800
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: with Arizona for him. But he has the Pirates as

801
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: one of the teams on his no trade list, and

802
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: he said no good players aren't suddenly out of the

803
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,760
Speaker 1: clear blue sky. We're gonna want to come to Pirates.

804
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: Just not how that's gonna work. All right, let's take

805
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: a talk back.

806
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 6: What are the odds that this year in the NFL

807
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 6: postseason that it's Steelers, Colts and it's Aaron Rodgers versus

808
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 6: Philip Rivers. That would be pretty good.

809
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers did get so today that the Colts practice squad,

810
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: and it's hard to imagine he won't be active.

811
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 6: I mean they have like oh boy sought wide thank Christ.

812
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 3: Uh.

813
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: I mean the Colts. They have their rookie quarterback banged up.

814
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: I mean, How's River is not going to be in uniform.

815
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: So it's a crazy story. But I don't think and

816
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,720
Speaker 1: he's going to make the playoffs. I think they've started

817
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: to fade, and now Danny Dimes is hurt and I

818
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: just think they're done. So. Plus Jacksonville and Houston have

819
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: both come on in that division. Uh okay, let's take

820
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: another talkback.

821
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 6: Hey, Mark Jake from Raleigh.

822
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 4: Hey, is your friend Chris Jericho gonna be?

823
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 3: Uh?

824
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 9: I guess the last entrance to the Royal Rummel this year?

825
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 2: What have you hurt?

826
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 4: Tell us?

827
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 7: Thanks?

828
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: I haven't talked to Chris about his professional future. It

829
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 1: certainly assumed now that his AW contract is either up

830
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: or nearing completion, that he's going to go back to

831
00:38:58,840 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: WW for one final run.

832
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 6: And I think he should do that.

833
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: I think he deserves that, and I think they will

834
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: benefit by two at WB.

835
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 6: But as far as him being the.

836
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:12,760
Speaker 1: Surprise entrant in the royal rumble to bring him back again,

837
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: that one shocked me. But it is so cliched, and

838
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 1: Chris isn't exactly a guy who's ever gone to cliched route,

839
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: and you know not that he would have final say

840
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 1: and creative if he goes back to WB. But I

841
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 1: would think he would want better and more unusual than that.

842
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: Maybe not, though maybe that's what he would want.

843
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,760
Speaker 6: I don't know. Let's go to a talkback.

844
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 3: Hey, double M just curious here, what was the best

845
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 3: Christmas gift you've ever received?

846
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 2: Most memorable?

847
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 3: And what was the best Christmas gift you've ever given someone? Boy?

848
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 6: As far as what I gave, I don't know.

849
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: I mean I should remember that because it's better to

850
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: give than to receive, But I I don't remember the

851
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: best Christmas trip I ever got. That's easy. I post

852
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: the blog about it every year. In nineteen seventy, I

853
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: was nine, and I had really, in the last year

854
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,439
Speaker 1: or so, become a real, you know, sports card kid

855
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 1: with baseball cards and hockey cards, and it was really

856
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 1: hard to get hockey cards. And then tops hockey cards.

857
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: There weren't many places that sold them, and there was

858
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: a place on Troy Hill that I think just closed recently.

859
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: It was opened for NonStop for over fifty years, Victoria's Dairy.

860
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:32,479
Speaker 1: And I went up.

861
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 6: To Victoria's because they were the had hockey cards.

862
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: But they only got one box and it was already

863
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: sold out, so they were getting another box. The next week,

864
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: I went in and it was already sold out again.

865
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: I was like crying because I was a baby and

866
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: I really want to get these hockey cards. Then when

867
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: I got up on Christmas morning, I went under the

868
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,439
Speaker 1: tree and there were two wrapped boxes and it turned

869
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 1: out it was both boxes hockey carts.

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00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 6: My mom got them for me.

871
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: She had beat me to Victoria's Dairy, and Victoria's cooperated

872
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: with her, so there you go. But but yeah, that

873
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: was the best Christmas gift I ever got. I post

874
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 1: the blog about that every year. I will never forget that.

875
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,799
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876
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877
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882
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883
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884
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,400
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885
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886
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887
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888
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889
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890
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891
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892
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893
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