Speaker 1: Mike Allen in four, the great American Willie Cunningham, who's
Speaker 1: getting a well deserved day off here. Well, i'll tell
Speaker 1: you what. I hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving. I
Speaker 1: know that I did, of course. Now we've got Black
Speaker 1: Friday upon us, and I just stacked my neck out
Speaker 1: a little bit. You can see Kenwood Mall from the
Speaker 1: studio here, and I mean it's crowded, but it doesn't
Speaker 1: look that bad. Put it this way, it looks manageable. Hey,
Speaker 1: we'll be able to talk about all of that at
Speaker 1: nine point thirty, but we're getting right to work here.
Speaker 1: Our first guest, he describes the six Democrats that really
Speaker 1: had the gall to really, I think, encourage service members
Speaker 1: to disobey orders. He calls them the six donkeys, and well,
Speaker 1: you could even make it worse than that. They say that, hey,
Speaker 1: the individual service member, if you feel that the order
Speaker 1: is illegal, you can disobey it. And our next guest,
Speaker 1: he calls that. He refers to it as reckless, irresponsible,
Speaker 1: and dangerous, and man, it's hard to argue with that description.
Speaker 1: And here to talk about it is mister Greg Rabido.
Speaker 1: He's a filmmaker, a teacher, and an attorney. He's co
Speaker 1: founder of Vaalmar Films. Greg, welcome back to seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 2: Thank you sir, Happy belated or day after Thanksgiving?
Speaker 1: You too, you too.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: This is the way I look at this thing, Greg,
Speaker 1: when it came out, just when you think there's no
Speaker 1: way that they can become the Democrats more irresponsible than
Speaker 1: they already have been, you see something like this. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is incredible.
Speaker 2: I tell you. It goes just about as close to
Speaker 2: the line of treason as you can get. And then
Speaker 2: I've been listening to some of the commentary and some
Speaker 2: of the some of the walking back they're doing. But
Speaker 2: then also in the same breath, whether it's Delugio or
Speaker 2: Alyssa Slodkin or Kelly Senator Kelly doubling down, you know,
Speaker 2: and saying, well, it's our duty to do this under
Speaker 2: the Constitution as they always wrap themselves, isn't it. But
Speaker 2: then I'm thinking, okay, but what was the intent? In
Speaker 2: other words, if you did that and I did that,
Speaker 2: I think a fair question by someone to be okay, hey, guys,
Speaker 2: the you took a real tough stance here, controversial to
Speaker 2: tell what are legal orders? And then if you, and
Speaker 2: I couldn't come up with anything specific, but it was
Speaker 2: sort of as vague, Well, it was our duty. Then
Speaker 2: I think you really got to ask, okay, truly, what
Speaker 2: was your intention? And I've heard it referred to as
Speaker 2: a soft coup. To be honest with you, the intention,
Speaker 2: it's hard for me. I'm trying to be objective here,
Speaker 2: but it's hard for me to see another intention other
Speaker 2: than weakening any kind of loyalty or obedience that soldiers
Speaker 2: and service members men and women have to the commander
Speaker 2: in chief, which, once you start doing that again, puts
Speaker 2: you right down the slippery slope of being treason as
Speaker 2: what is your intent to do that? Because United States
Speaker 2: Code of Military justices you, I'm sure you know every
Speaker 2: service member men and women when they get that in.
Speaker 2: There is certainly line about if you feel you've been
Speaker 2: given an order that you feel you for some reason
Speaker 2: you absolutely cannot execute for whatever reason, or you feel
Speaker 2: as absolutely unconstitutional would break your oath you take you
Speaker 2: have a judge, Advocate general JAG officer that you can
Speaker 2: go to privately and explain. They know that they don't
Speaker 2: need to be reminded by six Democrats who are trying
Speaker 2: to make political pay out of something. They don't need
Speaker 2: to be reminded of that, but that it s sure
Speaker 2: weakens the structure. You can't weaken the command, the chain
Speaker 2: of command, and the structure of loyalty in the military.
Speaker 2: You simply cannot. You're asking for chaos. Is that what
Speaker 2: they want? I guess is my quaer, is that what
Speaker 2: they wanted to see happened? If they want to uprising
Speaker 2: in our military at this point, is that what they want?
Speaker 1: You know, I just think they didn't think it through.
Speaker 1: And the guy that surprises me is Kelly. I mean
Speaker 1: he's got prior Well, they all had prior service, I guess,
Speaker 1: but his was somewhat I mean celebrated.
Speaker 4: I guess.
Speaker 1: I don't get it. I spent ten years in the
Speaker 1: Army Reserve, in the jag Corps. And the one thing
Speaker 1: that one of the things they beat through our head
Speaker 1: is all military orders are presumed to be legal and
Speaker 1: all service members are required to obey them. And like
Speaker 1: you just said, Greg, none of them could come up
Speaker 1: with a specific law that they were trying to persuade
Speaker 1: these people to ignore, because it's all just a bunch
Speaker 1: of crap. I don't think they've helped themselves with this.
Speaker 2: Do you No, I absolutely don't. And you make a
Speaker 2: really good point about the presumption of legality. You have
Speaker 2: to presume the laws. That's why the Supreme Court presumes
Speaker 2: every law in every case that's brought to them. They
Speaker 2: have to presume that, if it's a congressional law, that
Speaker 2: it is constitutional, because we don't have, like other countries,
Speaker 2: this sort of non binding advisory opinion that some courts do,
Speaker 2: like in France for example. So if you and I
Speaker 2: were thinking of making a law we had questions about
Speaker 2: maybe what the commander in chief was saying to a
Speaker 2: military we could write up almost like a hypothetical and say,
Speaker 2: well that if this was the case, and if we
Speaker 2: challenge right with, what would the court do. We don't
Speaker 2: have that system, and thank goodness we don't, because it's
Speaker 2: just it so's doubt. If you have that system, you
Speaker 2: have to presume it's signal. Now, if these sick the
Speaker 2: capital six, the six donkeys, the seditious sick, pick which
Speaker 2: one you like, really had deep sincere doubts. There are
Speaker 2: many other avenues that they can do as lawmakers to
Speaker 2: question it. They can question on the floor of the Senate,
Speaker 2: the floor of the House. They can send letters to
Speaker 2: the Secretary of Defense, they can demand a meeting public private.
Speaker 2: They a lot of paths, but they chose this, And
Speaker 2: so you got again say, well, what was your intention.
Speaker 2: I can't think of any other intention other than it
Speaker 2: was to do what they always are doing, which is
Speaker 2: try to weaken and undermine President Trump, which is very dangerous.
Speaker 2: Whoever the president.
Speaker 1: Is exactly And speaking of that, I looked it up.
Speaker 1: I mean, in the oath that service members take enlisted.
Speaker 1: I wasn't able to find the officers one, but the
Speaker 1: enlisted oath they swear that they will quote obey the
Speaker 1: orders of the President of the United States and the
Speaker 1: officer who the officer appointed over me. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: pretty damn clear. The president says, you do it, you
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, well, because it's not for them
Speaker 2: to question, as you well know, having a military background,
Speaker 2: you cannot have a system of obedience loyalty in the
Speaker 2: military if everything's put to a vote. That's not how
Speaker 2: it works. That's also why they're not considered a civilian.
Speaker 2: They don't have a choice. Now if the president does
Speaker 2: issue some sort of absolutely unconstantently prima facie case on
Speaker 2: its face, unconstitutional.
Speaker 5: Illegal order.
Speaker 2: The enlisted won't be the one necessarily the questioning it.
Speaker 2: It'll be the officer, to be the generals, it'd be Congress,
Speaker 2: It'll be someone else in a position of authority that
Speaker 2: can question it. It'll be reviewed and then guess what
Speaker 2: if it is, then it won't necessarily be followed, or
Speaker 2: it can be rescinded. But that's not it built in
Speaker 2: this we in other words, we have safeguards built in
Speaker 2: the system. And the safeguard we have built in the
Speaker 2: system is not six democrats going public on social media
Speaker 2: and TikTok basically reminding wink wink in a nod. If
Speaker 2: you think it's illegal, you don't have to follow it.
Speaker 2: In other words, gee, join us in being disobedient and
Speaker 2: disloyal to the president, because you know, wink wink, nod, nod,
Speaker 2: he's not really the president. It's the same stuff, and
Speaker 2: it's the same playbook as you know that they started,
Speaker 2: my goodness, the minute after he was sworn in the
Speaker 2: first it's the same playbook. Don't beat them on popy,
Speaker 2: don't beat them on issue, don't try to find better solutions.
Speaker 6: Just try to attack.
Speaker 2: Them that way. And I'm telling you what, it doesn't
Speaker 2: help anybody.
Speaker 1: It doesn't and you know, and all the crazy stuff
Speaker 1: that they do. You think, man, there's got to be
Speaker 1: some consequences. But there has to be some consequences for this. You,
Speaker 1: being the good lawyer that you are, you found eighteen
Speaker 1: United States Code twenty three eighty seven, which makes it
Speaker 1: a federal crime. And I'm quoting here from the statute
Speaker 1: to advise urge or attempt to create insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny,
Speaker 1: or refusal of duty among members of the United States
Speaker 1: Military with the intent to interfere with American operations. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what. Applying the law to the facts, as
Speaker 1: we're taught to do as lawyers, pretty damn clear to me,
Speaker 1: isn't it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to find a gray area there. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's pretty much that is the code and that is
Speaker 2: the language. And then you have your fact pattern here
Speaker 2: and you simply apply it now politics being politics and
Speaker 2: social media and then sort of walking it back and
Speaker 2: them saying no, no, that's not what we meant, and
Speaker 2: keeping it vague enough, right, they kept keep it vague enough,
Speaker 2: so that if I had to bet, And I'll tell
Speaker 2: you what, I'm not a big betting man, although I
Speaker 2: will say, for the record, I did beat my brother
Speaker 2: in law yesterday on the Chiefs Cowboy game. But I'm
Speaker 2: not going to glow too much over that. But I
Speaker 2: tell you what, if I if I was a betting
Speaker 2: man that way, I would say, sadly, I don't think
Speaker 2: there are going to be consequences. There should be. There
Speaker 2: should be, because you know, if I'm sitting in China,
Speaker 2: if I'm sitting in North Korea, if I'm sitting in Russia,
Speaker 2: if I'm sitting in Iran, I'm going, oh, look, it's
Speaker 2: my goodness. We couldn't I think I put in my blog,
Speaker 2: you couldn't buy that kind of negative propaganda against you.
Speaker 2: If my goodness that the leaders of America are trying
Speaker 2: to turn the military against their own leader. Gosh, you
Speaker 2: couldn't buy that kind of propaganda against your enemy. And
Speaker 2: here it is the Democrats are handing it to him.
Speaker 1: And you're right about that. I mean, I presume the
Speaker 1: statute's probably a felony. I think it applies, but there's
Speaker 1: no way that they're gonna get charged. But I guess
Speaker 1: with Trump, you never know, I mean a letter of
Speaker 1: censure or something, because Kelly, I think my understanding is
Speaker 1: Greg is that if you are active duty and you
Speaker 1: violate the UCMJ, you can be recalled the active duty
Speaker 1: and technically prosecuted. I don't think that's going to happen either,
Speaker 1: but by god, something has to happen, because you just
Speaker 1: can't have this with the military, and the military is
Speaker 1: going so good now with Trump, you know, the recruitment
Speaker 1: is through the ceiling loyalty. It's a shame.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree. I think I think to your point,
Speaker 2: I think he's probably the only one, Kelly, we're talking
Speaker 2: about Mark Kelly Senert Arizona. I think he's the only
Speaker 2: one that's vulnerable in terms of getting any kind of
Speaker 2: sanctions or punitive action because being the most outspoken, being
Speaker 2: the highest profile, being the one who's come out the strongest.
Speaker 2: I think they could bring him back, put him put
Speaker 2: him back an active duty, but you know what, at
Speaker 2: most probably just some sort of inebstensive type ruling, some
Speaker 2: sort of letter. So maybe they could knock off metal
Speaker 2: or downgrade do something in terms of the status, but
Speaker 2: it will just be dismissed and blown off by by him.
Speaker 2: In the Democratic Party, they'll just say, oh, it's just
Speaker 2: you know, Trump's administration, and they've already attacked uh, the
Speaker 2: Secretary of Defense, he said, as he's not really THEGITIMENTI with.
Speaker 2: They'll find a way, in other words, in the public
Speaker 2: opinion the arena to somehow diminish it anyway. But I
Speaker 2: tell you what, it really such a terrible precedent, and
Speaker 2: I hope people are. I hope people are restrained enough
Speaker 2: and see to your point though, that's why there needs
Speaker 2: to be some accountability, so we don't just keep doing
Speaker 2: this now because they've done it to the Supreme Court
Speaker 2: as you know. You know, they constantly hurt their credibility,
Speaker 2: talk about expanding it and how they're just back of
Speaker 2: its judges and terrible judges of course, unless it's decisions
Speaker 2: they like. I don't like it when they either party
Speaker 2: attacks the judicial system like and the Supreme Court that way,
Speaker 2: because it really does hurt the credit in the institution
Speaker 2: far too, far too much. So whatever political gain you
Speaker 2: make today is going to be hurting the country long term.
Speaker 2: So I'm not crazy about that either way. And so
Speaker 2: here I hope neither party thinks this is a good
Speaker 2: strategic move to do because they get away with it.
Speaker 1: And you know, Greg, that's the thing that really worries
Speaker 1: me is that if the United States people, if the
Speaker 1: citizens do a collective shrug with this, then I think
Speaker 1: we're in trouble. And again I'm not saying lock them
Speaker 1: up in jail, although you know it probably would be deserved.
Speaker 1: But the American people have to be concerned about this,
Speaker 1: especially those with prior military which is a hell of
Speaker 1: a lot of people in this country.
Speaker 2: No, they should, to your point, which I think is
Speaker 2: spot on, they absolutely should. And that's why I hope
Speaker 2: that the Department of War under heccept does not just
Speaker 2: let it go. It doesn't seem like they're going to.
Speaker 2: I'm just not sure politically speaking, how far they can
Speaker 2: take it until there's such a backlash again that any
Speaker 2: then it looks so politically colored and so much politicized
Speaker 2: that then you've got, you know, again, half the country
Speaker 2: just saying oh, it's all about politics, and not looking
Speaker 2: a little further and trying to be rational and going no, no,
Speaker 2: this is not good for anybody, And it wouldn't be
Speaker 2: good if the Republicans did it to a democratic president.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's why the impeachment they ruined. Impeachment they
Speaker 2: took out with the founders, you know, as you know
Speaker 2: believed was this is the safeguard and you know kind
Speaker 2: of like, don't hit it unless it's a true emergence,
Speaker 2: don't break the glass unless it's emergency. And they're breaking
Speaker 2: the glass because you know, they don't like a phone call.
Speaker 1: No question about it. One more question and then I
Speaker 1: want to find out what's going on with you? What
Speaker 1: you got cooking? But it's probably an impossible question. I mean,
Speaker 1: I asked a question, what will they do next? I'll
Speaker 1: ask you that, Greg Rabido, do you have any idea
Speaker 1: how they can top this one?
Speaker 2: That's that's tough, that's question, boyd. I'd have to get
Speaker 2: into mind. I think they're honestly, I think they're looking
Speaker 2: closely at this to see if there's accountability, and I
Speaker 2: think if there's not really any kind of accountability, I
Speaker 2: think they will both keep up the attacks on the military,
Speaker 2: whether it's the bombing of the Narco terror's boats coming
Speaker 2: out of Venezuela or any other thing. Keep in mind
Speaker 2: Trump President Trump Briesey said that would take the war
Speaker 2: against the narco terarifs to land. So I got to
Speaker 2: believe with the strategic movements they're doing that they're targeting
Speaker 2: what we see as you know, a non legitimate, illegitimate
Speaker 2: leader there in Venezuela. I'm sure they will use that.
Speaker 2: And then my guess, if we take some action against Venezuela,
Speaker 2: they'll take the side of the Venezuelan dictator, like they
Speaker 2: take the side of immigrant illegal immigrant criminals, like they
Speaker 2: take the side of narco terras, like they take the
Speaker 2: side of sex traffickers. It sure seems like they take
Speaker 2: that side, and then you'll see an impeachment. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: think that would be their next move, honestly, if that happens.
Speaker 2: And in the meantime, they'll continue to step up a
Speaker 2: tax on ice if they don't see accountability with their
Speaker 2: attacks on the military.
Speaker 1: And you know, the American people, a lot of them
Speaker 1: may be majority, they meet this with a collective shrug
Speaker 1: of the shoulders, and that to me is the worst
Speaker 1: news out of all of this. Hey, we got about
Speaker 1: a minute left. What you got going, Greg, What are
Speaker 1: you working on?
Speaker 2: Hey, We're working on We're working on an original script
Speaker 2: of God called The Road to Redemption. So that's about
Speaker 2: an aging sheriff on a border town who's kind of
Speaker 2: both crippled physically and from a police standpoint from things
Speaker 2: as he did against this this sort of this gang
Speaker 2: that's taken over town. So he calls in a Native
Speaker 2: American woman, borrows her from a reservation, and she kind
Speaker 2: of takes the rein, so to speak, to try to
Speaker 2: fight against this drug gang and sex trafficking this border town.
Speaker 2: We'll get that going. And then we got a documentary
Speaker 2: that we're working on in terms of campus radicalization and
Speaker 2: what our campuses are really like. So we're working on
Speaker 2: those two projects. And Valmarfilms dot com or Greg Thefilmmaker
Speaker 2: dot com always invite people to check us out there
Speaker 2: and give us a holler and let us know what
Speaker 2: we're doing or if there's something you want to see
Speaker 2: us do. We're open to that too.
Speaker 1: Well, we're looking forward to it. Greg has always appreciate
Speaker 1: you giving us your point of view on this.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Yeah, my pleasure man. Keep up the good
Speaker 2: work here.
Speaker 1: Thank you, all right, Greg Rambadil. I love that guy, man.
Speaker 1: I mean, he just puts the cheese on the crackers
Speaker 1: if you will. And he's, you know, a lawyer, not
Speaker 1: that that matters, but filmmaker. A lot of things going on,
Speaker 1: but man, you talk about some conservative common sense. That's Greg.
Speaker 1: So anyway, we'll be hearing more from him. Hey, we
Speaker 1: have to take a break, but we will be back.
Speaker 1: Mike Allen in for Willie's seven hundred WLW twelve thirty
Speaker 1: seven News Radio, seven hundred WLW. Mike Allen in for
Speaker 1: the Great American Willie Cunningham today. You know, I tell
Speaker 1: you what I don't know about you, but I'm in
Speaker 1: a bit of a food coma today. Man. I had
Speaker 1: a great turkey dinner, everything else, all the fixings, as
Speaker 1: they say, are in Kentucky. It was really good, really good,
Speaker 1: And I walked out of the place with about a
Speaker 1: shopping bag full of leftovers. Too exaggerating that a little bit,
Speaker 1: but now it was a good day. It really was
Speaker 1: in the Bengals, how about that? I mean the return
Speaker 1: of Joe Burrow. You know, I'm one of those guys
Speaker 1: I don't I might have to rear range by thoughts
Speaker 1: on this, but I was one of those guys that thought, now,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, they've got almost no chance of making
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Why why are they playing him when Flacco's
Speaker 1: playing so well and they've got virtually no chance to
Speaker 1: get into the playoffs. So, just for the heck of it,
Speaker 1: I googled that exact question, I guess and AI. I'm
Speaker 1: starting to use AI some in my research. I found
Speaker 1: it to be accurate for the most part, and pretty
Speaker 1: fair too when you're looking at political issues. But at
Speaker 1: any rate, according to AI, I think this is after
Speaker 1: last night, but there's a chance it could have been before.
Speaker 1: It says the Cincinnati Bengals have a slim chance of
Speaker 1: making the playoffs, with various analyzes giving them between a
Speaker 1: two point two percent and eighteen percent chance of a
Speaker 1: wild card spot. I don't know. I think that might
Speaker 1: be a little bit too optimistic, but I mean, it
Speaker 1: would be nice to see the season salvaged.
Speaker 4: But Burrow looked sharp.
Speaker 1: What was he twenty four or forty six passes for
Speaker 1: two sixty one yards? Good numbers. He's capable of a
Speaker 1: lot more than that. There's just so much riding on
Speaker 1: that guy, though, but he doesn't seem to be affected
Speaker 1: by the pressure of it. But anyway, great to have
Speaker 1: him back again. Reading between the lines. A lot of
Speaker 1: the things I heard was there were some of the
Speaker 1: Bengals management that thought, you know, like I was just saying,
Speaker 1: Flacco's doing okay, you know, we don't want to risk it,
Speaker 1: we don't want to risk it with Burrow. But then
Speaker 1: one of the commentators that I heard, I forget who
Speaker 1: it was, said that they heard that Joe Burrow is
Speaker 1: the one that's pushing it and the Bengals management needs
Speaker 1: to stand up and say, Joe, you're too valuable. I
Speaker 1: kind of amend my thinking on that. I'm glad he's
Speaker 1: in and we'll see what happens. What a story it
Speaker 1: would be if they make the playoffs like the Cincinnati
Speaker 1: Reds did. At any rate, though, you know, talking about
Speaker 1: some serious things, and it doesn't get any more serious
Speaker 1: than this. A sad day on Wednesday, of course, with
Speaker 1: the death of one West Virginia National Guard member and
Speaker 1: the serious wounding of another. And that soldier is hanging
Speaker 1: on from everything I've been able to see, very very
Speaker 1: critically wounded, and you just scratch your head and ask
Speaker 1: yourself why. I mean, I think I know the reason
Speaker 1: get there in a minute. But the soldiers are army.
Speaker 1: The decedent Army specialist Sarah Beckstrom, all of twenty years old.
Speaker 1: She died yesterday. She was an Army Military Police soldier.
Speaker 1: She volunteered to work in d C. Again, she's West
Speaker 1: Virginia National Guard, but they got a unit up there.
Speaker 1: They do worked volunteered to work in DC over the
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving holiday so that others could be with their family.
Speaker 1: Sounds to me like a typical American soldier putting self
Speaker 1: before everybody else. And the soldier that is still struggling
Speaker 1: actually not a soldier, Airman Air Force Staff Sergeant Andrew Wolf.
Speaker 1: He is twenty four, remains in critical condition, and he's
Speaker 1: fighting for his life after undergoing surgery for multiple gunshot wounds.
Speaker 7: You know, she is.
Speaker 1: Dead and Staff Sergeant Wolf is in critical condition because
Speaker 1: and I don't have any compunction saying this, because of
Speaker 1: the Biden administration, because they let just about anyone into
Speaker 1: this country and we are paying for it, and I'm
Speaker 1: telling you we're going to be paying for it for
Speaker 1: a long long time now.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 1: The deal with this one is, I guess these are
Speaker 1: Afghan or the guy that they caught is an Afghan
Speaker 1: national who was led into the country under some I
Speaker 1: don't know, potential parole program. You'll remember the botched pullout
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one that the Biden administration. It was
Speaker 1: their production and I watched that thing and I had
Speaker 1: just made me sick, you know. And people said, well, Trump,
Speaker 1: Trump wanted to get out too. Yeah he did, and
Speaker 1: I support him on that, and I think just about
Speaker 1: everybody did. But do it in an orderly fashion. That
Speaker 1: was awful. I mean, in addition to the loss of
Speaker 1: life and the serious wounding of individuals, how many billions
Speaker 1: of dollars of military equipment did we leave behind because
Speaker 1: of that? And you know that should have been enough
Speaker 1: for Joe Biden's legacy right there. And I'm not just
Speaker 1: saying that because I'm partisan, I am, but that was
Speaker 1: actually inexcusable, inexcusable. Well, what they're saying now is that
Speaker 1: those people were, including the the guy we're talking about here.
Speaker 1: His name is you know what, I don't really care
Speaker 1: what his name is. I probably couldn't even here. It
Speaker 1: is Ramanola Romanola Lalkandal, probably mispronouncing that. I'll probably be
Speaker 1: called islamophobic for it. Good pile it on. I'll where
Speaker 1: it does. A badge of honor. I don't care. He's
Speaker 1: twenty nine years of old. Just not properly vetted at all.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just such a sloppy process that they
Speaker 1: put into play with this thing. And again we're all
Speaker 1: paying the price for it. Now, we're paying the price
Speaker 1: for it. You know, by some estimates, and I don't
Speaker 1: know what's actually accurate or not, but by some estimates,
Speaker 1: Biden let twenty million people into this country illegally. I
Speaker 1: just sat there while it was happening. I read something
Speaker 1: I didn't get a chance to see if I could
Speaker 1: find it again a couple of years ago, right after
Speaker 1: this happened, that they thought that there may be twenty
Speaker 1: thousand Chinese men, Communist Chinese men and women of military
Speaker 1: age that got into this country. Where are they? What
Speaker 1: are they doing? Like I said, We're going to be
Speaker 1: paying for this with our blood as Americans for a
Speaker 1: long time to come. Just the height of irresponsibility. Well
Speaker 1: there's an arklond Fox. He's really good. One that I
Speaker 1: saw this morning. You may recognize the name of Nicole Parker.
Speaker 1: She is the former FBI special agent who is a
Speaker 1: commentator now on Fox. She talked about this. Apparently she
Speaker 1: must have been involved in it when she was in
Speaker 1: the FBI, and she referred to the so called screening
Speaker 1: process that they had after the bungled withdrawal as I'm
Speaker 1: quoting her a free for all. I think she's probably
Speaker 1: being charitable there. It goes on to say tens of
Speaker 1: thousand of Afghans were evacuated to the US in the
Speaker 1: wake of the withdrawal and subsequent Taliban takeover of the country.
Speaker 1: The chaotic nature of the operation raised concerns at the
Speaker 1: time from Republicans and in official reports that some evacue's
Speaker 1: were not being properly vetted and could have and that
Speaker 1: could have catastrophic consequence. You think, you think, just awful. Well, anyway,
Speaker 1: Josh Holly got involved in the thing. In the story,
Speaker 1: he revealed that a whistleblower said three hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: four individuals had entered the country with what he refers
Speaker 1: to as derogatory information, while a twenty twenty two report
Speaker 1: by the Department of Homeland Securities Office of Inspector General
Speaker 1: separately found that the Department failed to properly vet Afghan
Speaker 1: evacuees entering the US, creating a potential national secure risk.
Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna be honest with you. At the time,
Speaker 1: you know, it was an abomination. But I was saying,
Speaker 1: and a lot of other Americans were saying, Hey, if
Speaker 1: there are Afghan citizens that helped us, that were helpful
Speaker 1: to the United States of America, and those people are
Speaker 1: going to truly be in danger with the regime change there,
Speaker 1: we ought to help them. And I stand by that.
Speaker 1: But my god, the willy nilly nature apparently, and that
Speaker 1: just abject sloppiness and negligence within which they did this.
Speaker 1: It's just unbelievable. Let me get back to former Special
Speaker 1: Agent Parker. She says, there were individuals that were not
Speaker 1: being recommended to come to the United States, yet they
Speaker 1: were being this is this speaks volumes. Let me read
Speaker 1: it again. This is her quote. There were individuals that
Speaker 1: were not being recommended to come into the United States,
Speaker 1: yet they were being overridden by the Biden State Department.
Speaker 1: It was a free and no one was being vetted. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, what do you think is gonna happen when
Speaker 1: you do things like that? And this is gonna be
Speaker 1: the last one either. Just the height of negligence, and
Speaker 1: that's being charitable. You just can't have that. She goes
Speaker 1: on to say that records were scattered, databases were in complete,
Speaker 1: Screening teams were processing people at a pace that made
Speaker 1: perfect vetting impossible. I get that, I get that, and
Speaker 1: it can't be perfect. But apparently this situation, it was
Speaker 1: almost no vetting at all. Many times it felt like
Speaker 1: anyone was allowed to come into the United States from Afghanistan,
Speaker 1: regardless of who they were. What happened to our National
Speaker 1: Guard service members is a direct result of vetting, or
Speaker 1: let me just kind of put a punctuation, or direct
Speaker 1: result of lack of vetting. And that is an absolute,
Speaker 1: one true statement because of the negligence of the Biden administration.
Speaker 1: Those two service members one died, Pray to God that
Speaker 1: the other one doesn't. But that airman is, if he
Speaker 1: does survive, is going to be seriously injured. Just a
Speaker 1: couple more things here, because I really think she put
Speaker 1: the cheese on the crackers here, so to speak. She
Speaker 1: went on to say, oh, no, wait a minute, this
Speaker 1: is Jeanine Piro. Oh man, she's not somebody to be
Speaker 1: messed with. She is the US attorney now for the
Speaker 1: District of Columbia. This is what Judge Piro has to say,
Speaker 1: and she was a judge before she got the fox,
Speaker 1: I guess. But anyway, whatever their cause or motive may be,
Speaker 1: we should not have to live in fear in the
Speaker 1: nation's capital, especially by one who came here from a
Speaker 1: foreign country and though and through a process that was
Speaker 1: so absurd that he came through and was released into custody.
Speaker 1: This is what happens in this country when people who
Speaker 1: are not properly vetted get in. And then the last
Speaker 1: one in the story at LISTA had to say, he
Speaker 1: puts a pretty bow on this thing. Is Cash Pattel,
Speaker 1: who I think is doing an incredible job as an
Speaker 1: FDI director. This is what Cash Ptel said. Quote this individual,
Speaker 1: the person that murdered these two service members. This individual
Speaker 1: is in this country for one reason and one reason alone,
Speaker 1: because of the disastrous withdrawal from the Biden administration and
Speaker 1: the failure to vet in any way, shape or form
Speaker 1: this individual and countless others. So there again, you know this.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised we haven't had one of these specific type
Speaker 1: of situations before, but I guarantee you it ain't going
Speaker 1: to be the last one. Then, just to close this out,
Speaker 1: Alejandro Mayorcus the former Homeland Security secretary. If you follow
Speaker 1: these things, just ask yourself this question. Have you ever
Speaker 1: seen an elected official, now he's an appointed official, lie
Speaker 1: so much as him. I mean direct, look in the camera,
Speaker 1: look at it, and just lie, not exaggerate, not fabricate,
Speaker 1: just lie. Okay. Twenty twenty one, after this withdrawal debacle,
Speaker 1: had Senate hearings, and Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorcus insisted that,
Speaker 1: and I'm quoting him here, well over ninety nine percent
Speaker 1: of evacuees were screened and vetted before boarding flights. But
Speaker 1: then he later acknowledged, under questioning, apparently under oath, that
Speaker 1: he couldn't guarantee that standard applied in every case. The
Speaker 1: man's capacity to lie is credible. I mean to stand
Speaker 1: there and say that ninety nine percent of our vacuees
Speaker 1: were screened and vetted before boarding flights. You know, obviously
Speaker 1: I don't need to tell any of you, but I
Speaker 1: am a partisan. But even still if I weren't, you
Speaker 1: can't have this. You just can't have it, And doesn't
Speaker 1: it seem to you? And you know, we just talked
Speaker 1: before to our guest about what the situation is with
Speaker 1: the six Democrats. What do he call them, pack a
Speaker 1: six or something like that, the six Democrats who are
Speaker 1: telling and as far as I'm concerned, encouraging service members
Speaker 1: to ignore orders, what do you expect when that's the
Speaker 1: kind of attitude that you get from these people, the Democrats.
Speaker 1: You know, none of this should come as any surprise
Speaker 1: to anyone. Everyone knows that under the Biden miss tration,
Speaker 1: anyone was allowed to come into this country. Just a
Speaker 1: complete and total, pure open border policy, you know, And
Speaker 1: we'll be seeing the fruits of this, if you will,
Speaker 1: for years to come. And again, I'll say this, and
Speaker 1: I mean it. When you got a Democrat party who's
Speaker 1: more concerned about the quote rights unquote of illegal aliens,
Speaker 1: criminals that trespassed into their country, when they're concerned more
Speaker 1: about their rights than true Americans, we got a problem
Speaker 1: in this country. But I just worry that, you know,
Speaker 1: we're just kind of giving a collective shrug of the
Speaker 1: shoulders to this kind of stuff. And you know, we
Speaker 1: got a service member dead who did not need to
Speaker 1: be dead and should not have been dead. It's just sad. Hey,
Speaker 1: we got to take a break. But when we get back,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk to Jay Ratliffe. It is the busiest
Speaker 1: travel weekend of the year. Gonna talk to Jay and
Speaker 1: see how everything's going. We'll do that when we get back.
Speaker 1: Mike Allen in for Willy seven hundred WLW oh seven
Speaker 1: hundred WLW Mike Allen in for the Great American Willie
Speaker 1: Cunningham on the day after Thanksgiving. Well, I'll tell you
Speaker 1: you already know this, but anyway, it's the busiest travel
Speaker 1: weekend of the year. And you couple that with the hangover,
Speaker 1: if you will, from the shutdown, and want to find
Speaker 1: out how things are going with our aviation expert. iHeart
Speaker 1: aviation expert Jay Ratliffe. But Jay, before I do that,
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you. I see your day trading
Speaker 1: fund billboards all over town, and I just want to
Speaker 1: ask how November went.
Speaker 8: November pretty good? You know, most of the time I
Speaker 8: spend my time teaching students versus trading, but had a
Speaker 8: pretty good month. Started with fifty thousand and made thirty four,
Speaker 8: five hundred and fifty six dollars and eighteen cents for
Speaker 8: the month. So does that worked a month for me?
Speaker 8: It Does'll that'll pay for the Thanksgiving food that Sherry
Speaker 8: my wife prepares and you've eaten some of that, so
Speaker 8: you know what about But yeah, I'm really excited for
Speaker 8: our January class start. And yeah, when you got two
Speaker 8: passions like I'm blessed to have professionally with aviation and stocks,
Speaker 8: it's a lot of fun and obviously it's a fun
Speaker 8: time to talk aviation as well.
Speaker 1: Brother, Yeah, you're not kid. And I'll tell you the
Speaker 1: question I kind of threw out there. I mean, you
Speaker 1: couple the busiest trading weekend excuse me, travel weekend of
Speaker 1: the year, then with the hangover from the shutdown, it
Speaker 1: seems to me and I watch a lot of news,
Speaker 1: it seems like things are going okay. What is it
Speaker 1: from the experts perspective?
Speaker 7: Jay, you know it is.
Speaker 8: And one of the things that I was asked was
Speaker 8: coming out of the shutdown, the question was, Okay, it's
Speaker 8: the middle of November.
Speaker 7: We've got the busiest travel week.
Speaker 8: Of the year coming up in a couple of weeks,
Speaker 8: will the airlines be ready? And to the surprise of
Speaker 8: some but not necessarily to me, within a few days
Speaker 8: they had pretty much everything back in line. It's a
Speaker 8: lot like if we've got a severe weather storm that
Speaker 8: comes through let's say the northeast sor it's a blizzard
Speaker 8: and it shuts down a lot of the airports in
Speaker 8: the Northeast. Once the storm passes, it's a matter of
Speaker 8: just three or four days before the airlines are back
Speaker 8: on full schedule. They've got all the you know, the
Speaker 8: pieces in the proper place, and they're able to resume
Speaker 8: a normal operation. And that's exactly what the airline officials
Speaker 8: were saying right after the.
Speaker 7: Shutdown was ending.
Speaker 8: They said, look, we anticipate being you know, all hands
Speaker 8: on deck back to a full schedule. And certainly it
Speaker 8: was nice because we had more of the air traffic
Speaker 8: controllers that were reporting for work. And you know, Mike,
Speaker 8: what's important to remember is prior to the shutdown, we
Speaker 8: were averaging because we had that you know that we
Speaker 8: still are short on air traffic controllers. We were averaging
Speaker 8: about thirty nine hundred delayed flights a day. That was
Speaker 8: normal for us because the fact that when you would
Speaker 8: have too many flights in the specific area, we didn't
Speaker 8: have enough air traffic controllers. The FAA has a very
Speaker 8: good traffic management system that slows things down out a
Speaker 8: lot of times you might be on a ground stop
Speaker 8: where you're on a flight in Cincinnati, you're on the plane,
Speaker 8: they're ready to take office. They no, we've got a
Speaker 8: ground stop for twenty minutes before we can leave for
Speaker 8: Dallas or for New York. And what's happened is they
Speaker 8: kick something in. It might be a weather that's caused it,
Speaker 8: or it may be just from a traffic mansip. At standpoint,
Speaker 8: there's too many planes, so they thin that out just
Speaker 8: a bit. It's very safety oriented and it's designed for
Speaker 8: a specific purpose. So you know, we're still dealing with that.
Speaker 8: You know, the average of three to four thousand flight
Speaker 8: delays a day, but it's not being compounded by the
Speaker 8: fact that we have so many more air traffic controllers
Speaker 8: that are you know, calling in because they're going to
Speaker 8: work a job that they can get paid for, versus
Speaker 8: showing up for.
Speaker 7: A job they don't get paid for.
Speaker 8: So, you know, and that's why I was glad President
Speaker 8: Trump came out and said, we'd like to give these
Speaker 8: people a ten thousand dollars bonus, those that were here
Speaker 8: without caught. But Mike, you know, some of the people
Speaker 8: were insulted by that.
Speaker 1: Why, I mean, I thought they deserve it. As far
Speaker 1: as I'm concerned.
Speaker 7: Oh, they do.
Speaker 8: But they're saying's got to sign on bonus of one
Speaker 8: hundred thousand dollars. We should be getting more than ten.
Speaker 8: And you know, I was reading these reports and I'm thinking, Okay,
Speaker 8: I know how I was raised.
Speaker 7: I got a pretty good yea how you were raised.
Speaker 8: If my boss skipped in the door and says, Jay,
Speaker 8: I'd like to give you a ten thousand dollars bonus
Speaker 8: for a job well done, the last words coming out
Speaker 8: of my mouth are going to be is that all?
Speaker 8: But you know, I think some of this is unfortunately
Speaker 8: rooted in politics. I think that had this been something
Speaker 8: coming from President Biben, Oh yeah, I think some of
Speaker 8: these people complaining maybe what have said it now not
Speaker 8: all and I may be reading way too much into it.
Speaker 8: And I will be the very first to say, these
Speaker 8: men and women for the last eight nine years and
Speaker 8: longer have not known what a five day work week is.
Speaker 8: Because the fact that we are three thousand plus air
Speaker 8: traffic controller shorts. They're working five, six, seven day weeks
Speaker 8: at length, and they're exhausted. And I recognize some of
Speaker 8: them are saying, look, I appreciate the ten thousand dollars,
Speaker 8: but you know, we're exhausted. And the two things that
Speaker 8: Donald Trump among many when he took into office saying,
Speaker 8: we've got to address the air traffic controller shortage. But
Speaker 8: it's not like walking over to us sink and turning
Speaker 8: up the spicket where more water comes out, because brother,
Speaker 8: only so much water comes out of that spicket, and
Speaker 8: it's already cranked all the way up. We've got as
Speaker 8: many training facilities as we can, we're maxing those out.
Speaker 8: We've got a specific number of air traffic controller trainers
Speaker 8: and we're maxed out there, and we're pushing fifteen, sixteen,
Speaker 8: seventeen hundred a year through this, and we've got to
Speaker 8: increase the facilities we've got, increased the number of instructors
Speaker 8: to push that number high so that we can get
Speaker 8: caught up. And sadly, as most people know, you want
Speaker 8: the day you sign on to be an air traffic
Speaker 8: controller and training it maybe five years before you're on
Speaker 8: the job, working by yourself. It's a long process. So
Speaker 8: hopefully President Trump can get that fixed before he leaves office.
Speaker 7: Or close to it.
Speaker 8: And also, the technology that you and I've talked about
Speaker 8: so many times over the years that so antiquated. He's
Speaker 8: saying we're gonna update that as well.
Speaker 7: And you know, if he does those two things as.
Speaker 8: He leaves office, it will impact aviation for the next
Speaker 8: ten or fifteen years. I like it a lot to
Speaker 8: him selecting a Supreme Court justice. He puts somebody in place,
Speaker 8: and it's going to have an impact for the next
Speaker 8: twenty years. And if he can make this stuff happen, Mike,
Speaker 8: I will be thrilled because other presidents have talked about
Speaker 8: it and done nothing.
Speaker 7: Yep.
Speaker 8: So if he follows through on this, there will be
Speaker 8: a big time benefit to aviation where we'll see a
Speaker 8: lot more flights. And if aviation does double over the
Speaker 8: course the next ten to fifteen years, as we expect it,
Speaker 8: will will be in a position to handle it, you know.
Speaker 1: Kind of dubtailing on that question, Jay Ratliffe in watching
Speaker 1: this and that's all I do is watch it, and
Speaker 1: I'm not an expert like you, but it sure seems
Speaker 1: like Sean Duffy has done a bang up job as
Speaker 1: the director of the Transportation Department on this thing. I mean,
Speaker 1: at least he was front and center during this whole thing,
Speaker 1: and I was impressed. But again, I'm not on the ground.
Speaker 1: I don't know for sure. I wanted to kind of
Speaker 1: see what you thought.
Speaker 7: Oh, I'm a big Sean Duffy fan. I'll be honest.
Speaker 8: There have been some things the Department Transportation has done
Speaker 8: recently that.
Speaker 7: I've not agreed with.
Speaker 8: But you know, he was always trying to keep everybody
Speaker 8: update on what was going on. He was telling the
Speaker 8: good or the bad, whatever it was. I don't think
Speaker 8: too many things were sugar coated. Sometimes you got that
Speaker 8: political spin on things. I didn't feel like a lot
Speaker 8: of that was coming from him. And you know, it
Speaker 8: was last week he said, now, you know, people need
Speaker 8: to stop wearting the pajamas to the airport. Well, that's
Speaker 8: really not the place of government to step in and
Speaker 8: say it would be nice if you dressed up and
Speaker 8: showed a little bit more respect to when you dress
Speaker 8: coming to the airport, because that's not the job of government.
Speaker 8: So please, let's go deal with more important things. Because
Speaker 8: you know, you know, every time I see somebody shuffling
Speaker 8: into an airplane and their slippers and their pajamas and
Speaker 8: their pillow to get on an airplane, it's January and
Speaker 8: I'm thinking now, if we have to do an emergency
Speaker 8: evacuation in Detroit on the ramp when it was thirty degrees,
Speaker 8: you're going to wish you to warn something a little
Speaker 8: bit more than those little jammis that the wind will
Speaker 8: go right through. But you know it's but yeah, I'm
Speaker 8: a big Sean Duffy fan. I think the Department Transportations
Speaker 8: doing a good job. And if you will, I'll tell
Speaker 8: you something they did recently that kind of take.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to I'm want to ask you about that.
Speaker 8: Yeah, there was a delayed compensation rule that just a
Speaker 8: while back that the it was announced that the Department
Speaker 8: Transportation is not going to be pursuing And the thing
Speaker 8: that bothered me on that was that, you know that
Speaker 8: this was something that was about a year ago that
Speaker 8: Joe Biden, the Biden administration came out with a cash
Speaker 8: compensation rule and basically it meant that if you were
Speaker 8: iirre delayed by more than three hours on a flight
Speaker 8: and it's there and it's the fault of the airline,
Speaker 8: not weather or anything like that, we could be entitled
Speaker 8: to some cash compensation that would be several hundred dollars.
Speaker 8: The rule would have also guaranteed meals, lodging when needed,
Speaker 8: in ground transportation when appropriate. And even though I was
Speaker 8: never a fan of the Biden administration in any regard Mike,
Speaker 8: I was very very appreciative of how the Bide deministration
Speaker 8: went after airlines, especially the last two years. If the
Speaker 8: airlines were kind of doing things they shouldn't be doing.
Speaker 8: I mean, they were getting hammered, and I loved it.
Speaker 8: Boeing was getting hammered, as was the airlines. So then
Speaker 8: the Trump administration comes into power, all the airline stocks
Speaker 8: go up, and people said, now, Jay, you trade stocks.
Speaker 8: Why did the stocks go up? I said, because it's
Speaker 8: going to be a real cozy relationship between the airlines
Speaker 8: and the Trump administration. It was the first time around,
Speaker 8: it will be now. A lot of these airlines and
Speaker 8: Bowing donated a million dollars each to the Trump indaugural
Speaker 8: fund when it's yeah.
Speaker 7: I f all of the money, right, brother.
Speaker 8: So what happens here is now the airlines have a
Speaker 8: very very powerful lobby. They're telling the government, look, this
Speaker 8: cash compensation rule is not really good for us. So
Speaker 8: the dot yeah, put it and drawer never to be
Speaker 8: seen again. So that bothers me because it's the airlines
Speaker 8: telling the government what to do instead of the other
Speaker 8: way around. And even Boeing Boeing during under the Biden
Speaker 8: administration admitted to criminal charges in UH as a result
Speaker 8: of the two Boeing Max crashes that killed what three
Speaker 8: hundred and forty six people, right, and they covered they
Speaker 8: covered things up, they lied all kinds of things, and
Speaker 8: they admitted you know, criminal UH in a criminal court,
Speaker 8: you know, responsibility, right. Donald Trump's get gets elected and
Speaker 8: what do they do. They go back into the DOJ saying,
Speaker 8: you know, we'd like to walk back some of those
Speaker 8: previous admissions, and sure enough they were allowed to do it.
Speaker 8: And the never it's not going to go to court,
Speaker 8: some out of court settlement that was done and the
Speaker 8: families are just throwing a fit because they didn't feel
Speaker 8: like it should have been. But that was also allowed
Speaker 8: by the Department of Transportation. So that those kind of
Speaker 8: things really bother me because when you don't have a
Speaker 8: system in place it's going to hold airlines and Bowling accountable.
Speaker 8: It gives them permission to keep doing the same craft
Speaker 8: they've been doing, and airlines are going to trade this
Speaker 8: like garbage and look Delta, I love they're my carrier
Speaker 8: of choice. They had a quarter last year that they
Speaker 8: reported a billion dollar profit in a single quarter, so
Speaker 8: did unite it almost So they're making that much money
Speaker 8: and they're saying this cash compensation rule.
Speaker 7: No, let's let's not give.
Speaker 8: Any of this to you a passenger. We'll throw them
Speaker 8: five thousand frequent by myriles to try to appease them. Well,
Speaker 8: thank you very much for that. That that's more of
Speaker 8: an insult than anything else.
Speaker 1: Now, and I agree with you on that. It kind
Speaker 1: of surprised. I just wonder if Congress could override I'm
Speaker 1: sure it's an executive order, but I don't know.
Speaker 8: Dead in the water, Mike, it really is, and it
Speaker 8: just it's unfortunate. It's like if an airline is shown
Speaker 8: to not have done certain things, nothing serious but maybe
Speaker 8: a maintenance type thing of a minor situation on certain
Speaker 8: aircraft by a certain date, they're fined ten million dollars. Well,
Speaker 8: then by the time it's done, the FAA recommended of
Speaker 8: ten million has been negotiated down to one and a
Speaker 8: half million, as long as they promise never to do
Speaker 8: it again.
Speaker 7: Oh thank you.
Speaker 6: You know that's great.
Speaker 8: I'm sorry, officer, I got this speeding ticket, and can
Speaker 8: you cut it in by ninety percent if I promise
Speaker 8: never to do it again. Those are the kind of
Speaker 8: games that have been going on for decades with the
Speaker 8: airline industry. It bothered me when I was a part
Speaker 8: of it, and it bothers me now, and every single
Speaker 8: time I see it, I'm going to speak out about
Speaker 8: it because I just don't like it. It doesn't mean I'm
Speaker 8: against the Trump administration. Anybody knows me knows that's not
Speaker 8: the case. But I believe in holding airlines accountable. And
Speaker 8: if people are saying, Jay, why is it that we're
Speaker 8: treated like garbage every time we fly and airlines don't
Speaker 8: do any better? Because there's no incentive. As long as
Speaker 8: we keep coming back and flying packing airplanes like we're
Speaker 8: doing right now, there's zero incentive for airlines to ever
Speaker 8: change what they're doing. And as a result, what takes
Speaker 8: place is they're going to continue. That's why when these
Speaker 8: surveys come out about the best airlines in the world,
Speaker 8: people want to know how many airlines from the US
Speaker 8: made the top twenty.
Speaker 7: I laugh. Zero.
Speaker 8: We never make those look because, yeah, customer service is
Speaker 8: non existent in the in the in this country because
Speaker 8: of how we're treated. Go fly another carrier as in coach,
Speaker 8: and you'll see the difference and it.
Speaker 7: Will blow you away.
Speaker 8: On wow, I actually feel appreciated when I fly Airlines
Speaker 8: such and such internationally versus how I'm treated when I'm
Speaker 8: going from Chicago.
Speaker 1: I get. I didn't think it was that bad. Hey,
Speaker 1: just in past you mentioned Boeing. Are they recovering? Will
Speaker 1: they recover? I think I asked you this last time
Speaker 1: I talked to you. How's that going well?
Speaker 8: I mean, if you believe what they're saying, they're they're
Speaker 8: they're moving in the right direction. But five six years ago,
Speaker 8: when they promised that they were going to do better,
Speaker 8: they learned from their examples, and you know, after those
Speaker 8: lives were lost that we talked about as an idiot,
Speaker 8: I believe them. I believe their paragraphs of promise and
Speaker 8: all this other garbage that they said about how they
Speaker 8: were going to become a better, more you know, uh,
Speaker 8: safety driven producer of aircraft. And then we had last
Speaker 8: January the dwarf flying off the last air Airlines flight
Speaker 8: that wasn't even secured. So I believed them before I
Speaker 8: will not do that now. I'll tell you in four
Speaker 8: or five years if Boeing has lived up to their promises,
Speaker 8: Because anytime that you're pushing airplanes through the production like
Speaker 8: they were and telling employees go to the scrap bend
Speaker 8: and pick the best failed part so we can put
Speaker 8: it on an airplane because we don't want to slow
Speaker 8: the production schedule.
Speaker 1: Mike, I don't know how.
Speaker 8: I don't know what you can say to that that
Speaker 8: would explain how that any of that is okay, right,
Speaker 8: But according to the whistleblowers and the people that investigated,
Speaker 8: that went on for a long period of time at Boeing,
Speaker 8: and that's just wrong. So they said they've stopped doing it.
Speaker 8: I don't know, have they I hope So I just
Speaker 8: hope nothing happens that shows that they didn't do what
Speaker 8: they said they were.
Speaker 6: Going to do.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it is what it is, and you
Speaker 1: can't justify that stuff, obviously. Hey, I wanted to ask
Speaker 1: you too. We talked a little bit about it, but uh,
Speaker 1: what is the biggest challenge that a traveler faces during
Speaker 1: this week, this holiday week? And what can they do
Speaker 1: to kind of at least try to obviate it? A
Speaker 1: little bit.
Speaker 8: Well, I tell you the biggest thing is the busiest
Speaker 8: travel day of the year is typically the Sunday after
Speaker 8: Thanksgiving coming up. The second busiest was on Wednesday. We
Speaker 8: had two point seven million people fly. The biggest thing
Speaker 8: is if you get to the airport on time, two
Speaker 8: hours before departure, which you have to do this time
Speaker 8: of year, get to the gate, and if you find
Speaker 8: out your flight is canceled with every flight being full.
Speaker 8: If you've got a family of three or four that
Speaker 8: are trying to get let's say to Orlando and every
Speaker 8: flight's full, and they're telling you, I'm sorry, your flight's canceled.
Speaker 8: We can't get you out till Monday afternoon or Tuesday morning.
Speaker 8: One of the things that you can do is tell
Speaker 8: the agent, believe me, who's desperately trying to get you
Speaker 8: to your destination, say, look, can you get me instead
Speaker 8: of Orlando to Tampa Saint Pete, Daytona Beach. I mean
Speaker 8: get me to a surrounding airport. I'll check and make
Speaker 8: sure that I can get a rental car, and if
Speaker 8: I do, I'll pay for that. So if you can
Speaker 8: fly me to Daytona, I can drive to my destination.
Speaker 8: If you can give the agent three or four good destinations,
Speaker 8: that's great. And if you're at the airport in a line,
Speaker 8: instead of waiting until you get up to the line,
Speaker 8: pull out social media. If you're standing in line, stay there.
Speaker 8: But I go to Facebook and I'll send Delta a
Speaker 8: message through Facebook saying here's my six digit confirmation number.
Speaker 8: My flight's been delayed. I'm worried about my connection. What
Speaker 8: options do I have? So either the agent I get
Speaker 8: to first, or something through that message that allows me
Speaker 8: to book something.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Grow the number of agents with airlines that are addressed
Speaker 8: to social media. If you're using the old Twitter or
Speaker 8: you're using Facebook or any other way to reach out
Speaker 8: to them, you don't make it a public post. It's
Speaker 8: a private message. Nobody sees your information. But you can
Speaker 8: just give them that six digit. Don't complain about the
Speaker 8: last ten flights you've been on. It's got to be
Speaker 8: very short, very brief, saying look, I'm here, here's my
Speaker 8: confirmation number. Flight's been canceled. What are my options. Many
Speaker 8: times they'll give you two or three. You pick one.
Speaker 8: Long before you get to the front of the line.
Speaker 8: The line, it's done, and you kind of go from there.
Speaker 8: The other thing, Mike is don't show up at the
Speaker 8: airport this time of year without to see this asignment,
Speaker 8: because we have flights that are over sold, which means
Speaker 8: anybody that doesn't have a seat assignment, technically you're on
Speaker 8: standby waiting for them to clear you. I don't care
Speaker 8: if it's a middle seat. You grab whatever seat you can,
Speaker 8: and if you want to get to the airport and
Speaker 8: try to move things around, you can try. But I
Speaker 8: see so many people saying, well, Jay, they're only like
Speaker 8: four seats, they were all middle and I didn't take
Speaker 8: any of them. And then I hear from them they're
Speaker 8: saying like, I almost didn't make the flight. Yeah, you
Speaker 8: know why, because you didn't have a seat assignment. If
Speaker 8: you're able to make it, I don't care what it is,
Speaker 8: make sure you grab something so you've got a seat
Speaker 8: assignment to go along with the reservation, especially over the
Speaker 8: holiday travel seas.
Speaker 7: You got to have it.
Speaker 1: Good advice, Jay ratlif As is all of your advice.
Speaker 1: Really appreciate it, and thanks for joining us today.
Speaker 7: Looking to catch up with you soon, brother, every.
Speaker 1: Time we will. Thanks Jay. All right, all right, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what I didn't know that about the seat
Speaker 1: assignment I've had. That's really good information. I got to
Speaker 1: tell you last year this time. That was a little
Speaker 1: after that, traveled to Mexico around Christmas, and I told
Speaker 1: Jay this at the time, I could not complain at
Speaker 1: all about the manners, the service, the attention to detail
Speaker 1: that TSA showed, and the booking agents at the airlines too.
Speaker 1: You know, you go in there. I think at least
Speaker 1: I did prepare to Oh God, what's gonna happen?
Speaker 7: Now?
Speaker 1: It was impressive. It's really been that way the last
Speaker 1: couple of times I've traveled. So I'm gonna I'm cutting
Speaker 1: them a brake for now. But at any rates, always
Speaker 1: good to hear from Jay. Hey, listen, we are going
Speaker 1: to take a break here, but when we get back,
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk politics, and we are going to talk
Speaker 1: politics with independent political analyst Kevin Burton. Kevin gives it
Speaker 1: to you right down the line, and that's the way
Speaker 1: I like it on these kind of things. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna be talking about Trump and his numbers falling down,
Speaker 1: and if the Democrats finally got interact together. We'll do
Speaker 1: that when we get back. Mike Allen Infrawillie's seven hundred
Speaker 1: WLW or Willie Cunningham. Well, I'll tell you what a
Speaker 1: lot of people are asking the question after the results
Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty five off year elections came in.
Speaker 1: Are the Democrats actually showing a pulse? Here to talk about?
Speaker 1: That is independent political strategist and analyst Kevin Burton. Kevin,
Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us today.
Speaker 4: Mike, thanks for having me my pleasure.
Speaker 1: Okay, your answer to that question, are they showing a
Speaker 1: pulse after a long time of not showing a pulse?
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously the answer is yes, you know, they
Speaker 3: are back from the dead. I always compare it to
Speaker 3: kind of like an NBA team where you just have
Speaker 3: to kind of thank you know, they were in the
Speaker 3: wilderness and now they're kind of getting back on their feet.
Speaker 3: And we're gonna see a really interesting thing on Tuesday
Speaker 3: that's not being talked about a lot. Is the Tennessee
Speaker 3: seventh Congressional District. Oh okay, well knows, I know it's
Speaker 3: very wonky. No, no, now, right now, it actually shows
Speaker 3: that the polling could be almost equal where the Republican
Speaker 3: candidate won by twenty two points.
Speaker 4: Last presidential cycle.
Speaker 3: So it's very similar to what we've talked about, you know,
Speaker 3: me and you over the years. That's the greatest thing
Speaker 3: about America. It's the give and take. When one side
Speaker 3: gets too far the others, the people punch back, you know.
Speaker 4: So for the Democrats, it's kind of amazing.
Speaker 3: That their party leadership is just abysmal, but the last
Speaker 3: month has been really good for them on the ballot boxes.
Speaker 1: That one you're talking about in Tennessee, is that the
Speaker 1: one where the Democrat candidate said something like she hates
Speaker 1: Nashville and all kinds of things like that, and they're
Speaker 1: trying to clabor her with it, and it doesn't look
Speaker 1: like it's succeeding. Is that the right? The one I'm talking.
Speaker 3: About, Yeah, it's the seventh district is kind of like
Speaker 3: the Nashville area. Yeah, which you know, probably I'm not
Speaker 3: involved in that race, but I would imagine that she's
Speaker 3: probably trying to get the some rural votes. But it's
Speaker 3: kind of a bold strategy to say you hate the city.
Speaker 4: That really makes But so we'll see.
Speaker 3: But you know, special elections generally always favored the opposition
Speaker 3: party just because they're motivated.
Speaker 4: No, I got you, so we'll keep we'll keep an
Speaker 4: eye on that.
Speaker 3: And also, you know, it goes to the presidential polling numbers,
Speaker 3: which aren't very great right now. So for as bad
Speaker 3: as the Democrats have been, they're only saving grace right now.
Speaker 3: Is the number one issue that we heard from Zoran
Speaker 3: Mindani affordability, and that's what they're running on.
Speaker 1: They're all over that one. Hey, before we get into
Speaker 1: those numbers, because I've got them here and I do
Speaker 1: want to talk to you about them. But at its core, though,
Speaker 1: Kevin Burton, don't the Democrats have a real, what could
Speaker 1: be long lasting problem of identity? You know, what do
Speaker 1: you want to be? Do you want to be moderate
Speaker 1: or do you want to be liberal? And how do
Speaker 1: you see that playing out with respect to the the
Speaker 1: midterms in twenty twenty six. It sure seems like that
Speaker 1: problem is not going to go away.
Speaker 3: Well, but it's you know, it's exactly no different than
Speaker 3: what the Republicans had to do after twenty twelve. You know,
Speaker 3: the conventional wisdom told them to go keep pushing more
Speaker 3: and more moderate because Romney lost, and you know, the
Speaker 3: Tea Party movement and then the Maga movement basically wiped
Speaker 3: out the establishment, and in a lot of ways, the
Speaker 3: Democrats are feeling the exact same. They're tired of the neocons.
Speaker 3: They're tired of you know, the Chuck Schumers. They're tired
Speaker 3: of all these people who've been in office who sailed them.
Speaker 3: So convinsional wisdom say that they should shift more back
Speaker 3: to the middle.
Speaker 4: But I just don't see that happening. I see more
Speaker 4: and more.
Speaker 3: You know, Nancy Pelosi retired because she had a millennial
Speaker 3: running against her, basically just saying, what have you done
Speaker 3: besides pocket yourself?
Speaker 1: What do you think is gonna happen? I'm sorry with
Speaker 1: that Schumer race, I'm just curious about that. Will AOC
Speaker 1: take him on or will he go quietly into the night?
Speaker 3: Well for AOC, if you know, she has it's kind
Speaker 3: of like Lane Kiffin, She's the Lane Kiffin of She
Speaker 3: has decided, she has decided do you want to run
Speaker 3: for Senate, stay as a house or try to run
Speaker 3: for president. So it's just the exact same thing where
Speaker 3: you know, if you're advising her, there's all three avenues
Speaker 3: that you could take. You know, if she announced that
Speaker 3: she was running against Schumer, I mean, I don't think
Speaker 3: it takes anyone with a political science degree.
Speaker 4: Regardless of what you think of her.
Speaker 3: She has the audience, she has the fandais, she has
Speaker 3: the momentum. And you know, Chuck Schumer is he's the
Speaker 3: other side of the coin of Mitch McConnell. You know,
Speaker 3: for twenty plus years, these two have sold out Americans
Speaker 3: to corporations, and frankly, people on both sides of the
Speaker 3: aisle are just tired of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you're right, I think for both parties
Speaker 1: it's kind of a change in opinion about that. Well,
Speaker 1: let's get into some of the numbers here public perception
Speaker 1: of the Democrat Party, and I wanted to ask how
Speaker 1: they get around this. And this is the Real Clear
Speaker 1: Politics average of polls, which is supposedly the most accurate one.
Speaker 1: I don't know when they were in the field, but
Speaker 1: it's the most recent one that I could find. Do
Speaker 1: you view the Democrat Party favorably or unfavorably? Favorably it
Speaker 1: was only thirty four percent. Unfaithed is sixty percent. Now
Speaker 1: the Republicans aren't much better. But Kevin, I just I
Speaker 1: respect what you're saying. I don't see how they get
Speaker 1: around that, and Republicans who are sitting on their butts
Speaker 1: thinking we're going to cruise through the midterms. They're wrong.
Speaker 1: They're as wrong as uh, you know, they're as wrong
Speaker 1: as those numbers would appear to be at least people
Speaker 1: like you think. I don't know if that makes any sense,
Speaker 1: but what are you think of that?
Speaker 3: It all comes down to affordability And it's that simple.
Speaker 3: I mean, listen, look out throughout history.
Speaker 4: You know, George H. W.
Speaker 3: Bush lost when he was a very popular president because
Speaker 3: inflation and the economy tanked. Joe Biden, we just saw
Speaker 3: what happened, you know, a couple of years ago. Right now,
Speaker 3: the majority to a two to one margin. People believe
Speaker 3: that Trump's tariffs have caused more problems. And for the Democrats,
Speaker 3: it's simply just being like, hey, I'm here. They're like,
Speaker 3: you know, they don't have a message. And frankly, you know,
Speaker 3: I think people on both sides were mad that Trump
Speaker 3: and Mandonnie met with each other. But this is America.
Speaker 3: That's what you're supposed to do, right, I mean, I
Speaker 3: don't know why this is breaking news, Like you're the
Speaker 3: mayor of the largest city and he's the president.
Speaker 4: Of course you should meet.
Speaker 3: So affordability is the number one issue going forward. Number
Speaker 3: two will probably be healthcare. Immigration has really quieted down,
Speaker 3: so it's really going to be those two things, affordability
Speaker 3: and healthcare. And as the Democrats are the alternatives because
Speaker 3: you're always going to blame the party in power. You
Speaker 3: just are in Republicans control, you know, all three branches
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, for a while, and you and
Speaker 1: I talked about it, I was somewhat optimistic that perhaps
Speaker 1: this could be different and the party in power would
Speaker 1: stay in power. It's such a thin majority, though, I
Speaker 1: don't know. We'll have to see. Now. I am a
Speaker 1: very fair individual. So we're going to talk about the
Speaker 1: president's numbers, which are not good. Nate Silver's silver bulletin aggregator.
Speaker 1: Are you familiar with that?
Speaker 4: It's supposed to be pretty yeah, okay, Yeah, here's.
Speaker 1: What it says. Trump's overall approval declined from forty four
Speaker 1: point three percent to forty one point three percent in
Speaker 1: the last month and change, while his disapproval rate rose
Speaker 1: even more sharply in the same timeframe, from fifty one
Speaker 1: point nine percent to fifty six point two percent. So
Speaker 1: I mean you're right, his poll numbers are not going
Speaker 1: the right way going into the midterms. And then the
Speaker 1: other thing too, And we've talked about this, Kevin, and
Speaker 1: this hurts Republicans. These maga voters will not get out
Speaker 1: the vote unless Donald J. Trump is on the ballot.
Speaker 1: That's not true of all of them, but for a
Speaker 1: pretty good number of them. That's a problem for Republicans
Speaker 1: when you think, well, but.
Speaker 3: It's no different than the Democrats with Obama. People need
Speaker 3: to realize that Donald Trump, love them or hate them,
Speaker 3: is a once in a generation political figure dame as
Speaker 3: Barack Obama. You have to stop trying to emulate them
Speaker 3: because you're not going to You're just true.
Speaker 1: Not that's true.
Speaker 3: You have to figure out you have to figure out
Speaker 3: a different way to win elections. Like and frankly, you know,
Speaker 3: Democrats are still kind of searching for you know, I
Speaker 3: would say it's kind of like how you know, New
Speaker 3: England was searching for only five years and then they
Speaker 3: found their other star quarterback. You know, parties latch on
Speaker 3: to their generational people. But the problem is there's a
Speaker 3: reason that they are generational. They don't grow on trees,
Speaker 3: and Republicans are going to have to come to terms
Speaker 3: with that pretty soon that you know, look at Ron DeSantis.
Speaker 3: You can try to be a maga lae, try to
Speaker 3: emulate you.
Speaker 4: Know, Donald Trump in so many ways.
Speaker 3: But when push comes to shove and it's the presidential primary,
Speaker 3: he got squashed like a bug.
Speaker 1: Yep. I was one of the ones I thought that
Speaker 1: he would be competitive. I mean, how wrong.
Speaker 3: And you know Kamala tried to basically run as Obama,
Speaker 3: but the voters saw through it. So the Republicans are
Speaker 3: going to have to have a come to Jesus meeting
Speaker 3: after the midterms that listen, like, you can't use the
Speaker 3: Trump playbook because Trump's one of one.
Speaker 1: He just does true true, you know, I along those lines,
Speaker 1: I need to ask you. It's just frustrating to me
Speaker 1: because I don't I just don't find it important. But
Speaker 1: apparently everybody else does. The whole Epstein Gate thing with Trump,
Speaker 1: it seems like it's still dogging him and probably will
Speaker 1: into the not too distant future. I mean, your thoughts
Speaker 1: on that.
Speaker 3: I know this is not your show, but I was
Speaker 3: on your show what nine months.
Speaker 4: Ago when this broke and what did I say, ham
Speaker 4: BONDI or fire cash to.
Speaker 3: Tell you gotta throw someone to the wool, right right.
Speaker 3: I mean still to this day they objectively they have
Speaker 3: bought this whole thing.
Speaker 4: Because they put they put themselves.
Speaker 3: In a corner that either the Epstein would file was
Speaker 3: something or nothing. And they've put they're in a corner
Speaker 3: now and now they're darned if they do, darned if
Speaker 3: they don't. You know, For Trump, it's actually very just
Speaker 3: fascinating because his.
Speaker 4: First term, his poll numbers for the economy.
Speaker 5: With sky high and it's.
Speaker 3: Foreign policies people did not like. And now it's the
Speaker 3: exact opposite this time around.
Speaker 1: You know. And with respect to Epstein, I mean, I think,
Speaker 1: what do I know. I mean, I'm not in the
Speaker 1: middle of it, but they could have diffused that thing,
Speaker 1: or at least tamped it down somewhat early on. It's
Speaker 1: kind of the drip drip drip thing. And yes it's important.
Speaker 1: I mean, horrible things happened to those those victims. But
Speaker 1: don't you think, though, if they had some kind of
Speaker 1: smoke and gun on Trump, we'd have known about it
Speaker 1: a long time ago.
Speaker 4: So you are the prosecutor here.
Speaker 3: So my only thing is if it sounds like a
Speaker 3: duck acts like a duck at the very least, it
Speaker 3: knows something about duck.
Speaker 4: You know, they have botched this whole thing.
Speaker 3: You know, there's there is they were friends at one point.
Speaker 4: There's no way to disagree with it. I mean, when
Speaker 4: you me and you've known.
Speaker 3: Each other for ten years and I don't see any
Speaker 3: pictures of me and you.
Speaker 1: Dancing together, that's pretty good. No, And I hear that,
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I think when they're teaching campaign school,
Speaker 1: they're going to teach people that that ain't the right
Speaker 1: way to handle it. Just let it keep dripping like.
Speaker 3: That a lot of ways, in a lot of ways,
Speaker 3: this is the Benghazi.
Speaker 4: Yeah it is, and you know.
Speaker 3: The drip and how you're talking about it when it's
Speaker 3: a drip, a slow stream that just ends up building
Speaker 3: into a river that you can't stop.
Speaker 4: Those are always the hardest thing.
Speaker 3: In politics because when something bad happens right away and
Speaker 3: you can counter it, people are like, Okay, yeah, you know.
Speaker 4: These things happen.
Speaker 3: This has been nine months and it's not going away.
Speaker 3: And when frankly, they release whatever's released, we still have
Speaker 3: people who think the.
Speaker 4: Moon landing's not real. JFK so it's already they've already
Speaker 4: lost the narrative.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I thought, now you correct me if
Speaker 1: I'm wrong, that they've released with this last go round.
Speaker 1: I mean, pretty much everything they can. I know the
Speaker 1: Democrats will keep pounding it and I understand that that's politics,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. And at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter because he's got beaten up enough
Speaker 1: about it. But again I returned to if they were
Speaker 1: a smoking gun, they would have found it already. But
Speaker 1: the poll numbers indicate that people are interested in that
Speaker 1: for whatever reason.
Speaker 3: And you know, going back to Nixon, it wasn't when
Speaker 3: nexton did. It's always the cuff up big. So they're
Speaker 3: redactive and that you know, and we talked about this,
Speaker 3: you know, nine months ago on your show.
Speaker 4: This is politics.
Speaker 3: Someone needed to just go find them a nice, cushy
Speaker 3: job afterwards. But you know, this problem is gonna be
Speaker 3: here to stay. And what's interesting is this is actually,
Speaker 3: I think going to be something that hinders jd vance
Speaker 3: in you think three years well, because you know, looking
Speaker 3: at Hillary Clinton with beIN Ghazi, what did what did
Speaker 3: the Republicans do?
Speaker 4: They kept saying the emails and ghazi.
Speaker 3: So if I if you're the Democrats looking forward in
Speaker 3: three years, you're gonna say, what did jd Vance know?
Speaker 3: Why were any names redactive? Who are the redactive names?
Speaker 3: Even if it's for the privacy, they've lost the narrative,
Speaker 3: and you know, it's really hard to get the narrative
Speaker 3: back once.
Speaker 1: It's lost, no question about it. I've only got about
Speaker 1: a minute here, and you touched on it briefly. We've
Speaker 1: only got a minute, but and we'll pick it up
Speaker 1: the next time. The Trump Mondami meeting. Your thoughts on that,
Speaker 1: and I think you gave them generally. Let me give
Speaker 1: you mine real quick, because I've already gotten some crap
Speaker 1: about it. I mean, I thought it was a good thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, people want to see some congeniality. And I
Speaker 1: think Mandamie conducted himself completely appropriately. He was respectful to
Speaker 1: the president and of course as Trump was back to
Speaker 1: him there night and day on policy and everything else.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, and it might hurt it probably
Speaker 1: will hurt Trump somewhat with his megabase. But what are
Speaker 1: your thoughts on that? In a minute?
Speaker 4: This is America. You're supposed to talk to the other side,
Speaker 4: right It's not.
Speaker 3: That hard, Mandaonnie's the mayor of the largest city.
Speaker 4: Trump's the president. And also they're both New York guys.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 4: There is there.
Speaker 3: Is something about like you know if someone from Cincinnati
Speaker 3: and you're on the opposite side and you still care
Speaker 3: about your hometown. And lastly, they are both just they
Speaker 3: both understand media better than anyone else.
Speaker 1: Very true. Well, I'll tell you what you could You
Speaker 1: could tell that just by watching them. Hey man, we
Speaker 1: are out of time, but we'll definitely pick this one up.
Speaker 7: Kevin.
Speaker 3: Well, Hey, happy Thanksgiving and thank you once again.
Speaker 7: Mike.
Speaker 1: Okay, Kevin, same to you. Appreciate it, right, all right?
Speaker 1: Kevin Burton, Well, I like these conversations and that kind
Speaker 1: of grounds you too. And the Trump thing, like I said,
Speaker 1: I have gotten a little bit a grief from that,
Speaker 1: but my god, with all the knives in everyone's back
Speaker 1: and the and the backbiting for once, you know, people
Speaker 1: were congenial, and you know, Kevin said at the very end,
Speaker 1: they're both New Yorkers and I think they both love
Speaker 1: New York. And we'll see. I mean, I if Montdommy
Speaker 1: says what he's going to do, and if you can
Speaker 1: pull it off. That is going to be a disaster.
Speaker 1: But hey, we shall see. We need to take a break.
Speaker 1: Butt when we come back, we're gonna check in with
Speaker 1: our real estate expert, Greg Stanley, residential real estate expert,
Speaker 1: on just what's going on in the real state market
Speaker 1: here in the greater Cincinnati area. We'll do that when
Speaker 1: we get back. Mike Allen In for Willy's seven hundred
Speaker 1: WLW News Radio seven hundred WLW. Mike Allen In for
Speaker 1: the Great American at Willie Cunningham. Be back tomorrow normal
Speaker 1: time nine to noon for Saturday midday. But appreciate WILLI
Speaker 1: giving me the shot here. Well, I'll tell you what
Speaker 1: we're getting. Close to the end of the year, Christmas
Speaker 1: is coming. We've done this throughout the year.
Speaker 4: To get an.
Speaker 1: Update on the local real estate market, we call on
Speaker 1: our real estate analyst, Greg Stanley with Kobe and Shepherd Reelers. Greg,
Speaker 1: thanks for joining us this say afternoon.
Speaker 5: Hey Mike, thanks for having me on again. Certainly appreciate it,
Speaker 5: love your show.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 5: I hope you had a great Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: I did too. I'm really starting to get into that,
Speaker 1: are you. It sounds like you did too. Are you
Speaker 1: starting to get that oot tide filling.
Speaker 5: I am starting to get that U tidde fellon.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's for sure. Okay, yeah, let me ask you.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you what is up in the local
Speaker 1: real estate market. From following you, Greg and talking to you,
Speaker 1: it seems like it's kind of been an up and
Speaker 1: down year.
Speaker 5: It has, you know what, those Cincinnati continues to defy
Speaker 5: the national numbers, right, I mean really, if you I
Speaker 5: was looking, I was, yeah, I mean, and it's very positive,
Speaker 5: especially for existing homeowners. Right now, I was looking compared
Speaker 5: to last year, same time last year, medium sales price
Speaker 5: is now at three hundred and ten thousand dollars. Now
Speaker 5: this is for Hamilton, Butler, Claremont, and Warren counties, which
Speaker 5: is the only four that I looked at. But it's
Speaker 5: now at three hundred and ten thousand dollars, which is
Speaker 5: up five percent from last year at this time. So
Speaker 5: prices continue, I mean, people, the price of homes continue
Speaker 5: to increase on an ongoing basis, you know. And what's funny, Mike,
Speaker 5: is that you know, we've got there's a lot of
Speaker 5: people sitting on the sidelines right wait for interest rates
Speaker 5: to drop as they do that, though, the prices of
Speaker 5: homes increase, so you know, the the net net is
Speaker 5: probably at least a zero in terms of, you know,
Speaker 5: if they're gonna wait for interest rates to drop, prices
Speaker 5: keep going up at the same time. The issue is
Speaker 5: is get in now, jump in now, be there you
Speaker 5: can always refinance or something like that or whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'm sorry, go ahead, I cut you off.
Speaker 5: No, No, that's okay. And and home sales have increased
Speaker 5: are up three point five percent, so the price of
Speaker 5: a home's up. Five home sales are up three point
Speaker 5: five percent, which again defies some of the national numbers
Speaker 5: that you're going to be seeing where where you know
Speaker 5: they're seeing home sales drop pretty significantly. We're seeing an
Speaker 5: increase of three point five bucking. Oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this question. I mean, and I
Speaker 1: ask you this every time we talk. Based upon what
Speaker 1: you're saying and getting close to the end of the year.
Speaker 1: Buyer's market, seller's market? Do you buy or sell or
Speaker 1: stand pat.
Speaker 5: I would say, I would say it's it's still a
Speaker 5: seller's market, but not like it used to be earlier
Speaker 5: this year, Okay, it's not as we're not seeing the
Speaker 5: over people are we're offering a lot over contract price
Speaker 5: or over sale price, that kind of stuff. A lot
Speaker 5: of people were over sale price, are over asking price,
Speaker 5: that kind of thing. We're not seeing that as much anymore,
Speaker 5: but it's still there in Cincinnati. Again, not nationally, but
Speaker 5: in Cincinnati, it's still there. I think it is.
Speaker 1: Got you now, listen. I've been wanting to ask you
Speaker 1: this question for a couple of weeks. Here. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of talk coming from the Trump administration, not so
Speaker 1: much as they're used to be, and not only a
Speaker 1: Trump administration but other places about a fifty year mortgage
Speaker 1: home mortgage. You know, Greg, I saw that and thought,
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about it, but that kind of
Speaker 1: sounds crazy to me. I mean, who the hell's gonna
Speaker 1: want to get that fifty years tied around your neck?
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on?
Speaker 2: That?
Speaker 1: Is it? And again it all comes down to affordability,
Speaker 1: that's the deal. But I don't know what do you.
Speaker 5: Make I totally agree with you. I think that's not.
Speaker 7: The way to go.
Speaker 5: If I were when I'm representing buyers, I would never
Speaker 5: even if it existed, I would never would never say
Speaker 5: go with a fifty year I mean you think about that, Mike,
Speaker 5: that is six hundred I know, payments, you know, I mean,
Speaker 5: by the time the every average person is buying a
Speaker 5: house today is forty years old. By the time by
Speaker 5: the time they get to the end of the you know,
Speaker 5: paying their house off, they're they're gonna be ninety, gonna
Speaker 5: be ninety years old.
Speaker 1: Well they'll be, they'll be they'll be out the program.
Speaker 5: Point absolutely, you know. So you know, you know what
Speaker 5: I would suggest is I really, I really like this
Speaker 5: idea of this, the portable mortgage instead of this fifty
Speaker 5: year stuff. Never would recommend that, but the idea that
Speaker 5: you could get a mortgage on your first home and
Speaker 5: be able to transport that to another piece of property,
Speaker 5: another home or whatever at the same interest. Really, I mean, Mike,
Speaker 5: you and I are of the age where we're probably
Speaker 5: sitting on a three percent three percent mortgage.
Speaker 1: That's what mine was about five years.
Speaker 5: Ago, I know. And the ability the ability to take
Speaker 5: that same mortgage and move that to another house that's
Speaker 5: going to generate some real interest. And I hope that,
Speaker 5: I hope we can see that through, but only time
Speaker 5: will tell.
Speaker 1: Well, now that sounds like that's something relatively new Are
Speaker 1: people taking advantage of that or has it been around
Speaker 1: for a while.
Speaker 5: Well, it's not available right now. They're still trying to
Speaker 5: get their arms around it, so it's not The portable
Speaker 5: mortgage is not available at.
Speaker 1: This current stage.
Speaker 5: But that's in conversation, just like the fifty year mortgage.
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, I wanted to.
Speaker 1: Ask you this question too, you know, and we talk
Speaker 1: about this all the time too, but I think people
Speaker 1: need to hear your advice on it. Okay, you want
Speaker 1: to put your house, your condo up for sale. You
Speaker 1: want to get the best return on your investment that
Speaker 1: you can. Where do you put your money? Where do
Speaker 1: you put the improvements? What would be the best thing
Speaker 1: to do so you can make more money on the sale?
Speaker 5: Great question, Great question. I am Mike. I am big
Speaker 5: on curb appeal, right, and I mean I talk return
Speaker 5: on investment. There's some investments in your homes.
Speaker 7: If you were to redo your.
Speaker 5: Kitchen totally, totally remodel it, tear it up, put it
Speaker 5: back together, that kind of stuff, tear out walls, there's
Speaker 5: no return on investment there. The same thing with a
Speaker 5: major death room thing. I'm huge on curb apeople, right,
Speaker 5: So I mean, for a new entry door, the return
Speaker 5: on investment there is like three hundred or two hundred
Speaker 5: percent return on investment. Or even just painting the front door.
Speaker 5: They say, people form an opinion of your house in
Speaker 5: the first six seconds, so as they're walking up there,
Speaker 5: they're looking at a freshly painted front door. Garage door
Speaker 5: has one hundred and twenty percent return on investment, new
Speaker 5: landscaping one hundred and twenty six. This is all curb
Speaker 5: side stuff that you can do to your house where
Speaker 5: you're gonna get big returns on your money, you know.
Speaker 5: I mean, so it's like some of these things, some
Speaker 5: of these things are just there's no ROI So be
Speaker 5: careful what you're gonna spend your money on, unless unless
Speaker 5: you're blessed to do it yourself, unless you've got that
Speaker 5: ability to do it yourself.
Speaker 6: You mean you mean right, yes, exactly.
Speaker 1: I'm terrible at that stuff, Greg, That's why I.
Speaker 5: But some guy's exactly, a guy two doors down from
Speaker 5: me redid his kitchen four pennies on the dollar because
Speaker 5: he did it himself. Now, it took him five months
Speaker 5: to do that, but I mean, he did a fabulous
Speaker 5: job on this thing. Now I've seen some remodels, homemade
Speaker 5: remodels where they're they're they're uh not done well sure,
Speaker 5: let me just put it that way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what you're doing. If you're doing something,
Speaker 1: that's why I stay away from it.
Speaker 5: Hey, exactly, you gotta you gotta know what you're good at.
Speaker 5: Obviously you're you're good at being an attorney, and you're
Speaker 5: good at this talk show stuff. Thank you, stay with that.
Speaker 1: One, right, I think I will, Greg, I think I'll
Speaker 1: leave the the real estate to you. But I wanted
Speaker 1: to ask you this question. And it's kind of funny
Speaker 1: because there's a personal kind of thing to this too
Speaker 1: okay situation with the how a home value would be
Speaker 1: affected on whether the whether the home or condo whatever
Speaker 1: is on the flight path. Just to tell you, Greg,
Speaker 1: this is probably about thirty forty years ago. My sister
Speaker 1: is a psychologist PhD. She did her she did her
Speaker 1: whole thesis on how that affects people psychologically because where
Speaker 1: she lived at the time was over by the Westernols
Speaker 1: Country Club, and man, I don't think it's that way now,
Speaker 1: but they were on a huge flight path back then.
Speaker 1: Is that something that enters into in a big way?
Speaker 1: I guess it would be somebody's thinking about whether they're
Speaker 1: gonna sell, whether they're gonna buy or whatever.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's still wonder if she did her thesis on that.
Speaker 5: Because you're you guys are West side folks. Sure, you
Speaker 5: guys are used to that thing, that whole flight path
Speaker 5: to Greater Cincinnati Airport, that kind of thing. I mean,
Speaker 5: there's some areas, like in Del High if you're having
Speaker 5: an outdoor picnic or what. Yeah, in some areas, you know,
Speaker 5: we're talking Mount Saint Joe, they fly right over Mount
Speaker 5: Saint Joe for the most part. You know, if you're
Speaker 5: outdoor on a picnic, it's like hold on while this
Speaker 5: jet flies over and then we can continue our conversation
Speaker 5: or whatever. I mean, it's just it's accepted kind of
Speaker 5: on the west side of town, you know, especially Dell
Speaker 5: High that kind of stuff. And with increased traffic. I mean,
Speaker 5: I was doing some home ork Mike, and it's like,
Speaker 5: you know, now there's a Dahl Hub over there, there's
Speaker 5: an Amazon Hub, a lot of cargo freight traffic, you know,
Speaker 5: overhead freight traffic is coming in there. Now they're doing
Speaker 5: some noise abatement things from Greater Cincinnati Airport, that kind
Speaker 5: of stuff. To minimize that kind of thing, But it
Speaker 5: definitely has an effect on especially if you're not used
Speaker 5: to it, like you are being a west Side or
Speaker 5: if you're not used to that definitely has an effect
Speaker 5: on home home prices, that's for sure. I think it does.
Speaker 1: It's a lot better than it used to be. But
Speaker 1: do you think the average buyer factors that in, because
Speaker 1: it sure sounds like they should, But do.
Speaker 5: They unless if you're not familiar with the West Side.
Speaker 5: That's why I always say, spend some time over there're
Speaker 5: not familiar with it. Some of them forget to do
Speaker 5: that right, and it's like that's where it comes. You
Speaker 5: got to be a good realtor and and you know,
Speaker 5: set expectations in terms of traffic that kind of stuff.
Speaker 5: But you know what's funny. I was thinking my father
Speaker 5: in law, he was certainly a West Side guy, and
Speaker 5: he was a retiree from ge aviation. He used to
Speaker 5: love to sit out in the backyard and watch the
Speaker 5: airplanes go over.
Speaker 1: There are people like that, Greg, there are.
Speaker 5: Typical west Side It's like pull up the garage door,
Speaker 5: sit outside your garage and watch traffic or watch watch
Speaker 5: the jets.
Speaker 1: Fly over you and I have a mutual friend who
Speaker 1: loved to do that because it's free. You know, it
Speaker 1: doesn't have to pay anything.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know who you're talking about.
Speaker 1: Different quirks for different people.
Speaker 5: I guess that cold ones that.
Speaker 1: Could factor into it. You never know, but you know what,
Speaker 1: there really are people like that. But I just wondered
Speaker 1: if people really think about that when they're buying, and
Speaker 1: like you said, over on the West Side, they should. Anyway, Hey,
Speaker 1: we are out of time. Greg really appreciated and I
Speaker 1: hope we can call on you in the new year.
Speaker 5: Hey, not a problem, thanks Mike, and bring in that
Speaker 5: Utai feeling.
Speaker 7: I am.
Speaker 1: I am every day I try.
Speaker 5: All right, Broke appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Okay, bye bye. All right. That's Greg Stanley of Komy
Speaker 1: and Shepherd. And that's a really interesting question that h
Speaker 1: that he put forward about the home sales. And I
Speaker 1: remember my sister doing that and doctoral dissertation is a
Speaker 1: big deal, and man, she researched the hell out of it.
Speaker 1: And on her street it was a street called mid
Speaker 1: Forest over there kind of by where Western Midills Country
Speaker 1: Club is. I mean, those people were not happy about it,
Speaker 1: and some of them, not in a big way, but
Speaker 1: in a relatively minor way affected them psychologically. So something
Speaker 1: to think about when you are buying a home, especially,
Speaker 1: like Greg said on the West Side, Hey, we got
Speaker 1: to take a break, but when we get back, we
Speaker 1: are going to talk to none other. And it's a
Speaker 1: shame he's leaving the one and only Bill Sites. We're
Speaker 1: going to talk to him about the Western Neils Viaduct.
Speaker 1: Maybe you saw it once again. The project is getting postpone,
Speaker 1: not called off or anything like that. Bill Sites is
Speaker 1: the guy mainly for his efforts that we're even getting
Speaker 1: a new one. I just wanted to ask Bill about that.
Speaker 1: We'll do that when we get back. Mike Allen and
Speaker 1: for Willie seven hundred WLW, I'm about that. That's kind
Speaker 1: of my error usually if it's not before, I don't know,
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty five. I struggle a bit at any rate. Seriously, folks,
Speaker 1: if you are a West Sider, you know just how
Speaker 1: important the Western Hills Viaduct is, and you also know
Speaker 1: what an absolute mess it is. It has been declared
Speaker 1: this is kind of a scary thing, declared functionally obsolete.
Speaker 1: Yet cars go over daily. Quite a few of them,
Speaker 1: thanks in large part to my next guest efforts. The
Speaker 1: existing Western Hills Viaduct is going to be torn down.
Speaker 1: They're going to get a new one that's going to
Speaker 1: be built, But as I understand, I'm going to build
Speaker 1: a new one and then tear down the old one. Well,
Speaker 1: we found out last week that, according to the Cincinnati
Speaker 1: Inquired did a pretty comprehensive story on it. The subheadlines
Speaker 1: are inflation has caused the new Western Hills Viaduct project
Speaker 1: to shrink in scope and increase in cost. The new
Speaker 1: design will have three lanes in each direction instead of
Speaker 1: the four lanes and one walkway path for people that
Speaker 1: it had before then. Well actually there were two before then.
Speaker 1: The project's costs will exceed the previous estimate of three
Speaker 1: hundred and ninety eight million, though a new total has
Speaker 1: not been announced. Bill Sites is the Ohio House member
Speaker 1: from the thirtieth House district on the West Side. He's
Speaker 1: the guy that I mean this because I was watching
Speaker 1: the whole thing as it played out. He's the guy
Speaker 1: that finally made it happen for the Western Hills Viaduct.
Speaker 1: Because you know, so many people in government, he got
Speaker 1: them all together. We got it done. Unfortunately, Bill will
Speaker 1: be leaving the Ohio legislature soon due to term limits,
Speaker 1: and I don't know that's a damn shame. But anyway,
Speaker 1: here to talk about it is State Representative Bill Sites. Bill,
Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us this afternoon.
Speaker 6: Hey Mike, I'm I'm delighted to be with you. I
Speaker 6: was actually turned out of office at the end of
Speaker 6: twenty twenty four. Oh to correct that. For the record, however,
Speaker 6: I want.
Speaker 1: To get you back in there for a year though.
Speaker 6: Well you know how term limits are.
Speaker 1: You got to say sorry about that, real fella.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a great fellow named Mike Odiosa that took
Speaker 6: my place.
Speaker 1: Good man, job, good man.
Speaker 6: But let me let me walk you through this. Over
Speaker 6: a period of time from twenty sixteen through twenty twenty,
Speaker 6: we put all the building blocks in place to get
Speaker 6: this done with the estimated cost of four hundred to
Speaker 6: four hundred and fifty million dollars. We allowed the county
Speaker 6: and the city to increase their license plate fee by
Speaker 6: five dollars each. The county and the city. We raised
Speaker 6: the gas tax that provides more money for infrastructure, and
Speaker 6: we also increased the percentage of that gas tax that
Speaker 6: goes for the benefit of local governments like the county
Speaker 6: and the city. We passed a law that gave the
Speaker 6: city the authority to seek vote approval for a TRANPT
Speaker 6: tax member. We raised the sales tax, cut the income tax,
Speaker 6: and I insisted as part of that law that twenty
Speaker 6: five percent of those proceeds must be used for infrastructure,
Speaker 6: for infrastructure over of roads over which busses would travel.
Speaker 6: So that was the key to selling the thing, because
Speaker 6: you know how things are out here in Green Township.
Speaker 6: I don't think too many people would have voted for
Speaker 6: just a bus levee, but putting the infrastructure angle in
Speaker 6: their help. And then finally, after all that was put
Speaker 6: in place, we had to change the law to allow
Speaker 6: the city to sell the railroad that runs the Southern
Speaker 6: Railroads that runs down to Chattanooga. And as part of
Speaker 6: that legislation, we insisted that every single dime that the
Speaker 6: city gets be spent to repair existing infrastructure. So with
Speaker 6: all those building blocks building a little by little, we
Speaker 6: put the whole funding thing in place. And then what happened, well,
Speaker 6: Bide inflation, Oh yeah, and Biden inflation because all of
Speaker 6: the stuff I'm talking about was put into place before
Speaker 6: that kicked in, and the enquire said they didn't know
Speaker 6: what the new cost was. I believe Eric Beck, the
Speaker 6: county engineer, told me a few months ago it's going
Speaker 6: to be north of eight hundred million, no wow, instead
Speaker 6: of instead of the four hundred and fifty million that
Speaker 6: we were looking at, because construction costs have skyrocketed, just
Speaker 6: like everything else as a result of the significant inflation
Speaker 6: that has happened since the year twenty twenty.
Speaker 7: And you all know why.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's pretty simple. So they have had to
Speaker 6: scale the program back. They've scaled down the number of lanes,
Speaker 6: they've scaled down the number of walkways, and you know,
Speaker 6: I think they're still scratching their head wondering where the
Speaker 6: rest of the money's going to come from. But the
Speaker 6: but the trans attack money is in place, they can
Speaker 6: allocate twenty five percent of that money to fix infrastructure
Speaker 6: like the Western Hills viaducts. The railroad sale money can
Speaker 6: be used for repairing existing infrastructure like the Western Hills viaducts.
Speaker 6: So hopefully that will be the vehicle by which we
Speaker 6: finally get this done. The completion gate Mike has been
Speaker 6: pushed back to we all like to have all this. Yeah,
Speaker 6: we had hoped to have all this done by the
Speaker 6: year twenty twenty nine. Well, now the latest I see
Speaker 6: in the paper there that you quoted, I believe they
Speaker 6: said twenty thirty two.
Speaker 1: It was twenty thirty two. Yeah, you know what, let
Speaker 1: me ask you this bill real quick. You know you're
Speaker 1: a west side or you probably hear it. I know,
Speaker 1: I do. What I hear is Well, there they go again,
Speaker 1: sticking it to the west side. If this was over
Speaker 1: Hyde Parker Mount, lookout, it'd be freaking done by now.
Speaker 1: I mean, do you ascribe to that too? That's the feeling.
Speaker 6: Well, okay, in fairness, it's tied up also with the
Speaker 6: construction of the new Prince Spence Bridge, which is another
Speaker 6: big project that's been delayed through the room because the
Speaker 6: approaches to the new brand Spence Bridge will actually start
Speaker 6: way back where the Western Hills Viaduct comes in. And
Speaker 6: that's not surprising either, because anybody that goes down South
Speaker 6: seventy five now seems that the traffic often backs up
Speaker 6: well past the Western Hills Viaduct and in some cases
Speaker 6: well past Opple Street. So so you know, the new
Speaker 6: approaches to the brand spence have to be coordinated. The
Speaker 6: construction of those have to be coordinated with the construction
Speaker 6: of the viaduct because the two of them connect. As
Speaker 6: you well know, right, you can get off of sety
Speaker 6: five either north or south and come across the viaduct.
Speaker 6: Although when you come southbound and you go under the viaduct,
Speaker 6: watch out for falling concrecte.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you that's frightening, Bill, It really is. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's got those nets up there, I think still, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I trust the engineers and the other
Speaker 1: structural engineers, those people that, yeah, they wouldn't put us
Speaker 1: on there if they didn't think it was safe. But
Speaker 1: it still is. It's kind of scary to look at it.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. Do you think maybe in
Speaker 1: about three years from now, I'll be sitting here with
Speaker 1: another politician saying, Hey, what happened. This is supposed to
Speaker 1: be done in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 6: Well, like I said, they've already pushed the estimated completion
Speaker 6: date back to twenty thirty two, much of my chagrin.
Speaker 6: The cost has gone up almost double. And you know,
Speaker 6: I'm not in office anymore, so I guess it's going
Speaker 6: to be somebody else's problem. But it's a significant you know,
Speaker 6: It's the thing was starting construction in nineteen twenty nine.
Speaker 1: I know it will be one hundred.
Speaker 6: Years old in twenty twenty nine or twenty thirty. And
Speaker 6: something that significant, that carries that much traffic, it seems
Speaker 6: to me you're really pushing the envelope, saying let's leave
Speaker 6: it up for a few more years after it's been
Speaker 6: up for one hundred years.
Speaker 1: You know, you would think so, Bill, My brothers might
Speaker 1: have told you my grandfather was a civil engineer and
Speaker 1: he actually participated in the work on it, And you're right,
Speaker 1: it goes that all the way that far back. I
Speaker 1: don't know it just again it just seems like one
Speaker 1: thing or the other, and it's just so so necessary.
Speaker 1: But again, you know, inflation, what are you going to do?
Speaker 6: You know, well, stop inflation is what you're going to do.
Speaker 6: And that means rein in federal government spending that went
Speaker 6: out of control during and after COVID, and when there's
Speaker 6: too much money chasing too few goods, that's called the
Speaker 6: recipe for inflation, and that's exactly what we saw. You
Speaker 6: see it in healthy prices. You see it all over them.
Speaker 6: You see it in the price of beef and the
Speaker 6: prices they pay at the grocery store. I mean, inflation
Speaker 6: has really knocked the socks off a whole lot of
Speaker 6: people here in the last couple of years.
Speaker 1: It is, it has well, you know what, I tried
Speaker 1: to give you an extra year bill, and I know
Speaker 1: Mike Odeosa is doing a great job, But how are
Speaker 1: you liking it? Are you still practicing law?
Speaker 6: I think right, Oh yeah, I'm practicing law. I'm also
Speaker 6: Governor to Wine appointed me to the State Board of
Speaker 6: Tax Appeals, which is a three person board that hears
Speaker 6: all appeals when people aren't happy with what the border
Speaker 6: revision did or aren't happy what the County Budget Commission did.
Speaker 6: We hear all those appeals, three people. And I'm doing
Speaker 6: a little bit of lobbying through our Dinsmore Shal affiliates
Speaker 6: lobbying affiliates. So I'm doing a little bit of that.
Speaker 6: And of course the governor had also appointed me this
Speaker 6: summer to co chair the Governor's Property Tax Working Group,
Speaker 6: which was a select group that he put together and
Speaker 6: I co chaired it with Pat T. Berry, a former
Speaker 6: congressman from the Columbus area who down runs the business
Speaker 6: Roundtable in Ohile. And so that was an intense period
Speaker 6: of two months of weekly meetings trying to get to
Speaker 6: the bottom of that mess. And you know, property taxes, God,
Speaker 6: everybody's patties in and uproar too. So we came up
Speaker 6: with twenty solid recommendations. Some of them have been adopted
Speaker 6: by the legislature. Some of them they sort of cherry picked,
Speaker 6: and I wasn't too happy about that, but sure, nonetheless
Speaker 6: they did some of it. So we were feeling like
Speaker 6: our work was not in vain. But I'm keeping plenty busy,
Speaker 6: good And I guess you got to keep busy when
Speaker 6: you're as old as me, because you don't want to
Speaker 6: just sit around and do nothing.
Speaker 1: I'm right behind you, brother, I'm right behind you. You
Speaker 1: know one thing I want to tell you anything. I
Speaker 1: told you this before, but it bears repeating. You've done
Speaker 1: so many things in the legislature, both in the House
Speaker 1: and the State Senate. I think one of your major
Speaker 1: things was, and it's something that I'm retired now, thank goodness,
Speaker 1: worked with on a daily basis, is criminal justice reform,
Speaker 1: not just reform. Just for the sake of reforming things,
Speaker 1: but some really good ideas and changes in our criminal
Speaker 1: justice system. And I know a lot of people in
Speaker 1: the system, most people in the system sure appreciate that.
Speaker 6: Bill, Well, I appreciate your comments because you're right, that
Speaker 6: was the principal focus of mine. And it's not soft
Speaker 6: on crime. It's basically what I was doing was making
Speaker 6: it easier for convicted criminals who have served their time
Speaker 6: to be able to find housing and a job, to
Speaker 6: give them a second chance. And we passed some very
Speaker 6: significant legislation on both of those areas. And we also
Speaker 6: passed some very significant legislation that widens the use of
Speaker 6: DNA and helps people who are wrongfully convicted be exonerated
Speaker 6: when the DNA does not prove their guilt. So those
Speaker 6: are all good things. We're not talking about, you know,
Speaker 6: no bail or any of that stuff. Absolutely not, I know.
Speaker 6: We're talking about, you know, good, good, solid criminal justice
Speaker 6: reforms that protect the innocence while punishing the guilty. And
Speaker 6: that's what the system should all be about.
Speaker 1: Right, You're exactly right, And people on the on the
Speaker 1: law enforcement prosecution end realized that too, Bill, Like you
Speaker 1: said it wasn't you know, get out of jail free
Speaker 1: and that kind of stuff. It was things that are needed,
Speaker 1: you know. So anyway, as I know a lot of
Speaker 1: people appreciate that. Bill, Hey, I appreciate you taking out
Speaker 1: time for us, and hope we can call.
Speaker 6: On you again anytime, anytime. Mike, we've been friends for many,
Speaker 6: many years. Oh yeah, I hope you had a good
Speaker 6: Thanksgiving and all your listeners did too. And and how
Speaker 6: about them Banks?
Speaker 1: How about that night?
Speaker 2: There you go?
Speaker 7: Man?
Speaker 1: Thank you?
Speaker 6: All righty, okay, bye bye?
Speaker 7: See it? Bill?
Speaker 1: Thank you. Oh that's a good man right there, and
Speaker 1: a great public servant. I can't believe I gave him
Speaker 1: an extra year. The person that came in for Bill,
Speaker 1: and I should have known better on that. Mike Odioso,
Speaker 1: good saint savior guy. Mike taught out there. Maybe he
Speaker 1: still does. I'm not sure. So we lost a good one,
Speaker 1: but we got a good one too. Hey, we got
Speaker 1: to take a break. We'll be back for a few
Speaker 1: minutes after that, and then we'll be out of here.
Speaker 1: Mike Allen in for Willie's seven hundred wlw rolling Stones. Hey, listen,
Speaker 1: we just have a few minutes left here before I
Speaker 1: got to get out of here, but I will be
Speaker 1: back tomorrow for Saturday midday, probably be pretty close to
Speaker 1: exclusively politics. I think that's what people want to hear
Speaker 1: out of that show. And I'll tell you what you know.
Speaker 1: When I first started doing that show, I guess it's
Speaker 1: about I don't know, seven eight years ago. Honestly, in
Speaker 1: thinking about preparing the show, you know, I'd have to think, well,
Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about this or what can I
Speaker 1: talk about? Now it has changed to where I have
Speaker 1: to do it by process of elimination because there is
Speaker 1: so much going on, not a whole lot of it
Speaker 1: being good too. It's a funny thing though, and I
Speaker 1: know I say this all the time people get tired
Speaker 1: of hearing it. But you know, when some of these
Speaker 1: things happen, like what we were talking about before with
Speaker 1: respect to that, just the horrible, horrible death of well
Speaker 1: one so far, hopefully the other one survives. Those two
Speaker 1: West Virginia National Guard people. One was an airman, the
Speaker 1: other was a National Guard member, all of twenty years old.
Speaker 1: All of twenty years old. They're just gunned down in
Speaker 1: the street by someone who was in this country and
Speaker 1: had no right to be in there. I mean, how
Speaker 1: does that stuff happen? Why does it happen? And why
Speaker 1: does the other side And this is the thing that
Speaker 1: baffles me. Maybe someday I'll figure it out. I guess
Speaker 1: it's just a I hate to say it, the way
Speaker 1: things are just going to hell in a handbasket for
Speaker 1: certain members of our society. But why is it that
Speaker 1: Democrats and those on the left and those in academia.
Speaker 1: And I'm not exaggerating, which I'm prone to do on
Speaker 1: it ocasion, but why are they advocating for people who
Speaker 1: are not citizens of this country and really taking the
Speaker 1: side against people that are. I don't understand that. I don't.
Speaker 1: And you know what, you want to come to this
Speaker 1: country because you know you're suffering prejudice in your own country. Whatever,
Speaker 1: do it, man, that's what we're here for. But do
Speaker 1: it right, Do it right. I have talked to so
Speaker 1: many people that have done it right. You know, they
Speaker 1: do the courses, they take the tests, and they are
Speaker 1: then naturalized citizens. And I don't have I ever said
Speaker 1: this before. I think I did, But you know, I'm
Speaker 1: an attorney and I was out a federal court. This
Speaker 1: is five or six years ago. And my case wasn't
Speaker 1: coming up for a while, so I just ducked in
Speaker 1: a courtroom. They had one of those ceremonies there, the
Speaker 1: naturalization ceremony. Were the people who did take the time
Speaker 1: and the effort to do it right were sworn in
Speaker 1: as American citizens. And you would not believe the pride
Speaker 1: in those people and what they did. And you know,
Speaker 1: here we let twenty million in that had no business
Speaker 1: coming in. But anyway, I'll get off of that high
Speaker 1: horse for now. I'll probably get back on it tomorrow morning.
Speaker 1: But it's the way it goes. Hey, I am out
Speaker 1: of here. I really appreciate Willy giving me the chance
Speaker 1: to sit in for him. It's kind of a different
Speaker 1: a different time of day, but it's still fun doing it,
Speaker 1: and I really appreciate Willy giving me the opportunity. Mike
Speaker 1: Allen seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 2: News Traffic and Weather News Radio seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati.
Speaker 9: Waiting in some lines on roads and also at check
Speaker 9: out registers with the three o'clock report. I'm Jack Crumbley
Speaker 9: breaking now.
Speaker 1: Please keep your keys with you.
Speaker 9: Lieutenant Paul Nabor with the Hamilton County Sheriff's Office trying
Speaker 9: to make sure thousands of Black Friday shoppers are safe
Speaker 9: on this big sales day. The mall in Kenwood is
Speaker 9: one of the busiest spots in Hamilton County.
Speaker 10: We've increased our patrols withinside the Town inside the Town Center,
Speaker 10: multiple different ausers are going to be within there and
Speaker 10: to hand on any kind of calls for service withinside
Speaker 10: the mall, and.
Speaker 9: That also means streets and highways are busy with people
Speaker 9: trying to drive to the shopping areas looking to buy.
Speaker 9: Tracy Schwegmann with Sycamore Township Trustees, we ask folks.
Speaker 1: To pack their patients. We encourage them to really follow
Speaker 1: the signage that's going to be in and around the
Speaker 1: interstates on the main arteries. Sometimes that entrance that you're
Speaker 1: used to typically going into may not be the fastest
Speaker 1: access to the mall. So if it's telling you to
Speaker 1: go left when you're used to going right, take the left.
Speaker 4: Let's check the latest traffic and weather together.
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Speaker 11: five before town, they center lane blocked from an accident.
Speaker 11: Traffic backed up from Norwood Elateral. Not too bad though,
Speaker 11: minute or two worth of delays at the moment. Another
Speaker 11: accident on the Red Bank Expressway that's over at Hetzel Street.
Speaker 11: Northbound seventy one seventy five at Donaldson Rode an accident
Speaker 11: off on the right shoulder. Plenty of slow spots around
Speaker 11: town as well, including southbound seventy one traffic. There's stop
Speaker 11: and go between Fifert and Montgomery Road up to a
Speaker 11: ten minute delay. I met Ezelak on news radio seven
Speaker 11: hundred WLUBLE.
Speaker 9: Also Montgomery Road approaching seventy one, both directions backing up again.
Speaker 4: That is Kenwood Mall traffic now.
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Speaker 13: Cold and sunny today across the tri State, but a
Speaker 13: winter storm system is moving in Saturday morning. Snow starts
Speaker 13: around a break for our western counties Across Southeast Indiana.
Speaker 13: Good see some light accumulation, and then we'll see a
Speaker 13: switch to arrange snow mix as temperature rise after the
Speaker 13: noon hour. A trace to a few inches certainly possible
Speaker 13: where we have the early onset of snow. Meanwhile, cold
Speaker 13: and windy into your Sunday from your severe what the station.
Speaker 13: I'm nine first one and meteorologist Kjjcobs's ready the seven
Speaker 13: hundred WOW.
Speaker 9: Radar show sunny skies in the tri State thirty four
Speaker 9: degrees right now. News is a service of Low T
Speaker 9: Center and a Doren Window Company. One of the two
Speaker 9: National Guard members shot near the White House Wednesday has
Speaker 9: now died. The suspect now facing a first degree murder charge.
Speaker 9: He's been identified as an Afghan national brought to the
Speaker 9: US in twenty twenty one with a special immigrant visa
Speaker 9: and then granted asylum this year. In April, the CIA
Speaker 9: saying that he worked with the US government in Afghanistan
Speaker 9: during the war. Here's former Acting under Secretary for Intelligence
Speaker 9: at the Department of Homeland Security, John Cohen.
Speaker 14: Based on what we've learned thus far is that this
Speaker 14: is an individual, like thousands of other Afghanistanis who worked
Speaker 14: closely with the US military and intelligence community, not only
Speaker 14: as interpreters, but also to fight terrorists in Afghanistan. That
Speaker 14: means that while he was there, he would have been
Speaker 14: heavily vetted by the CIADOD and other authorities to make
Speaker 14: sure he was not an insider threat and posed a
Speaker 14: risk to our forces.
Speaker 9: President Trump claimed the man wasn't vetted at all and
Speaker 9: called a reporter stupid for asking about it.
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