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Speaker 1: Our first guest, he describes the six Democrats that really

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Speaker 1: the individual service member, if you feel that the order

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Speaker 1: And here to talk about it is mister Greg Rabido.

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Speaker 1: He's a filmmaker, a teacher, and an attorney. He's co

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Speaker 1: founder of Vaalmar Films. Greg, welcome back to seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 2: Thank you sir, Happy belated or day after Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 1: You too, you too.

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Speaker 1: This is the way I look at this thing, Greg,

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Speaker 1: they already have been, you see something like this. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I tell you. It goes just about as close to

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Speaker 2: the you took a real tough stance here, controversial to

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Speaker 2: what is your intent to do that? Because United States

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Speaker 2: There is certainly line about if you feel you've been

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Speaker 1: And you know, the American people, a lot of them

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Speaker 2: Hey, We're working on We're working on an original script

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Speaker 1: Well, we're looking forward to it. Greg has always appreciate

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Speaker 1: find it again a couple of years ago, right after

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Speaker 1: this happened, that they thought that there may be twenty

431
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Speaker 1: thousand Chinese men, Communist Chinese men and women of military

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Speaker 1: age that got into this country. Where are they? What

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Speaker 1: are they doing? Like I said, We're going to be

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Speaker 1: paying for this with our blood as Americans for a

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Speaker 1: long time to come. Just the height of irresponsibility. Well

436
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Speaker 1: there's an arklond Fox. He's really good. One that I

437
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Speaker 1: saw this morning. You may recognize the name of Nicole Parker.

438
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Speaker 1: She is the former FBI special agent who is a

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Speaker 1: commentator now on Fox. She talked about this. Apparently she

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Speaker 1: must have been involved in it when she was in

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Speaker 1: the FBI, and she referred to the so called screening

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Speaker 1: process that they had after the bungled withdrawal as I'm

443
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Speaker 1: quoting her a free for all. I think she's probably

444
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Speaker 1: being charitable there. It goes on to say tens of

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Speaker 1: thousand of Afghans were evacuated to the US in the

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Speaker 1: wake of the withdrawal and subsequent Taliban takeover of the country.

447
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,199
Speaker 1: The chaotic nature of the operation raised concerns at the

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Speaker 1: time from Republicans and in official reports that some evacue's

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Speaker 1: were not being properly vetted and could have and that

450
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Speaker 1: could have catastrophic consequence. You think, you think, just awful. Well, anyway,

451
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Speaker 1: Josh Holly got involved in the thing. In the story,

452
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Speaker 1: he revealed that a whistleblower said three hundred and twenty

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Speaker 1: four individuals had entered the country with what he refers

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Speaker 1: to as derogatory information, while a twenty twenty two report

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Speaker 1: by the Department of Homeland Securities Office of Inspector General

456
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Speaker 1: separately found that the Department failed to properly vet Afghan

457
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Speaker 1: evacuees entering the US, creating a potential national secure risk.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna be honest with you. At the time,

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Speaker 1: you know, it was an abomination. But I was saying,

460
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Speaker 1: and a lot of other Americans were saying, Hey, if

461
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Speaker 1: there are Afghan citizens that helped us, that were helpful

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Speaker 1: to the United States of America, and those people are

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Speaker 1: going to truly be in danger with the regime change there,

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Speaker 1: we ought to help them. And I stand by that.

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Speaker 1: But my god, the willy nilly nature apparently, and that

466
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Speaker 1: just abject sloppiness and negligence within which they did this.

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Speaker 1: It's just unbelievable. Let me get back to former Special

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Speaker 1: Agent Parker. She says, there were individuals that were not

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Speaker 1: being recommended to come to the United States, yet they

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Speaker 1: were being this is this speaks volumes. Let me read

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Speaker 1: it again. This is her quote. There were individuals that

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Speaker 1: were not being recommended to come into the United States,

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Speaker 1: yet they were being overridden by the Biden State Department.

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Speaker 1: It was a free and no one was being vetted. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, what do you think is gonna happen when

476
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Speaker 1: you do things like that? And this is gonna be

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Speaker 1: the last one either. Just the height of negligence, and

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Speaker 1: that's being charitable. You just can't have that. She goes

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Speaker 1: on to say that records were scattered, databases were in complete,

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Speaker 1: Screening teams were processing people at a pace that made

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Speaker 1: perfect vetting impossible. I get that, I get that, and

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Speaker 1: it can't be perfect. But apparently this situation, it was

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Speaker 1: almost no vetting at all. Many times it felt like

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Speaker 1: anyone was allowed to come into the United States from Afghanistan,

485
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Speaker 1: regardless of who they were. What happened to our National

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Speaker 1: Guard service members is a direct result of vetting, or

487
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Speaker 1: let me just kind of put a punctuation, or direct

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Speaker 1: result of lack of vetting. And that is an absolute,

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Speaker 1: one true statement because of the negligence of the Biden administration.

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Speaker 1: Those two service members one died, Pray to God that

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Speaker 1: the other one doesn't. But that airman is, if he

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Speaker 1: does survive, is going to be seriously injured. Just a

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Speaker 1: couple more things here, because I really think she put

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Speaker 1: the cheese on the crackers here, so to speak. She

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Speaker 1: went on to say, oh, no, wait a minute, this

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Speaker 1: is Jeanine Piro. Oh man, she's not somebody to be

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Speaker 1: messed with. She is the US attorney now for the

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Speaker 1: District of Columbia. This is what Judge Piro has to say,

499
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Speaker 1: and she was a judge before she got the fox,

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Speaker 1: I guess. But anyway, whatever their cause or motive may be,

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Speaker 1: we should not have to live in fear in the

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Speaker 1: nation's capital, especially by one who came here from a

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Speaker 1: foreign country and though and through a process that was

504
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Speaker 1: so absurd that he came through and was released into custody.

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Speaker 1: This is what happens in this country when people who

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Speaker 1: are not properly vetted get in. And then the last

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Speaker 1: one in the story at LISTA had to say, he

508
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Speaker 1: puts a pretty bow on this thing. Is Cash Pattel,

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Speaker 1: who I think is doing an incredible job as an

510
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Speaker 1: FDI director. This is what Cash Ptel said. Quote this individual,

511
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Speaker 1: the person that murdered these two service members. This individual

512
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Speaker 1: is in this country for one reason and one reason alone,

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Speaker 1: because of the disastrous withdrawal from the Biden administration and

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Speaker 1: the failure to vet in any way, shape or form

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Speaker 1: this individual and countless others. So there again, you know this.

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised we haven't had one of these specific type

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Speaker 1: of situations before, but I guarantee you it ain't going

518
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Speaker 1: to be the last one. Then, just to close this out,

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Speaker 1: Alejandro Mayorcus the former Homeland Security secretary. If you follow

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Speaker 1: these things, just ask yourself this question. Have you ever

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Speaker 1: seen an elected official, now he's an appointed official, lie

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Speaker 1: so much as him. I mean direct, look in the camera,

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Speaker 1: look at it, and just lie, not exaggerate, not fabricate,

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Speaker 1: just lie. Okay. Twenty twenty one, after this withdrawal debacle,

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Speaker 1: had Senate hearings, and Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorcus insisted that,

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Speaker 1: and I'm quoting him here, well over ninety nine percent

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Speaker 1: of evacuees were screened and vetted before boarding flights. But

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Speaker 1: then he later acknowledged, under questioning, apparently under oath, that

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Speaker 1: he couldn't guarantee that standard applied in every case. The

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Speaker 1: man's capacity to lie is credible. I mean to stand

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Speaker 1: there and say that ninety nine percent of our vacuees

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Speaker 1: were screened and vetted before boarding flights. You know, obviously

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Speaker 1: I don't need to tell any of you, but I

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Speaker 1: am a partisan. But even still if I weren't, you

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Speaker 1: can't have this. You just can't have it, And doesn't

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Speaker 1: it seem to you? And you know, we just talked

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Speaker 1: before to our guest about what the situation is with

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Speaker 1: the six Democrats. What do he call them, pack a

539
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Speaker 1: six or something like that, the six Democrats who are

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Speaker 1: telling and as far as I'm concerned, encouraging service members

541
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Speaker 1: to ignore orders, what do you expect when that's the

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00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: kind of attitude that you get from these people, the Democrats.

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Speaker 1: You know, none of this should come as any surprise

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Speaker 1: to anyone. Everyone knows that under the Biden miss tration,

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Speaker 1: anyone was allowed to come into this country. Just a

546
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Speaker 1: complete and total, pure open border policy, you know, And

547
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: we'll be seeing the fruits of this, if you will,

548
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: for years to come. And again, I'll say this, and

549
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: I mean it. When you got a Democrat party who's

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Speaker 1: more concerned about the quote rights unquote of illegal aliens,

551
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: criminals that trespassed into their country, when they're concerned more

552
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: about their rights than true Americans, we got a problem

553
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Speaker 1: in this country. But I just worry that, you know,

554
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Speaker 1: we're just kind of giving a collective shrug of the

555
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: shoulders to this kind of stuff. And you know, we

556
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Speaker 1: got a service member dead who did not need to

557
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: be dead and should not have been dead. It's just sad. Hey,

558
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Speaker 1: we got to take a break. But when we get back,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk to Jay Ratliffe. It is the busiest

560
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Speaker 1: travel weekend of the year. Gonna talk to Jay and

561
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Speaker 1: see how everything's going. We'll do that when we get back.

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Speaker 1: Mike Allen in for Willy seven hundred WLW oh seven

563
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Speaker 1: hundred WLW Mike Allen in for the Great American Willie

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Speaker 1: Cunningham on the day after Thanksgiving. Well, I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: you already know this, but anyway, it's the busiest travel

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Speaker 1: weekend of the year. And you couple that with the hangover,

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Speaker 1: if you will, from the shutdown, and want to find

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Speaker 1: out how things are going with our aviation expert. iHeart

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Speaker 1: aviation expert Jay Ratliffe. But Jay, before I do that,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you. I see your day trading

571
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: fund billboards all over town, and I just want to

572
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Speaker 1: ask how November went.

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Speaker 8: November pretty good? You know, most of the time I

574
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Speaker 8: spend my time teaching students versus trading, but had a

575
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Speaker 8: pretty good month. Started with fifty thousand and made thirty four,

576
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Speaker 8: five hundred and fifty six dollars and eighteen cents for

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Speaker 8: the month. So does that worked a month for me?

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Speaker 8: It Does'll that'll pay for the Thanksgiving food that Sherry

579
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Speaker 8: my wife prepares and you've eaten some of that, so

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Speaker 8: you know what about But yeah, I'm really excited for

581
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 8: our January class start. And yeah, when you got two

582
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Speaker 8: passions like I'm blessed to have professionally with aviation and stocks,

583
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Speaker 8: it's a lot of fun and obviously it's a fun

584
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Speaker 8: time to talk aviation as well.

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Speaker 1: Brother, Yeah, you're not kid. And I'll tell you the

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Speaker 1: question I kind of threw out there. I mean, you

587
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Speaker 1: couple the busiest trading weekend excuse me, travel weekend of

588
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Speaker 1: the year, then with the hangover from the shutdown, it

589
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Speaker 1: seems to me and I watch a lot of news,

590
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Speaker 1: it seems like things are going okay. What is it

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Speaker 1: from the experts perspective?

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Speaker 7: Jay, you know it is.

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Speaker 8: And one of the things that I was asked was

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Speaker 8: coming out of the shutdown, the question was, Okay, it's

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Speaker 8: the middle of November.

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Speaker 7: We've got the busiest travel week.

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Speaker 8: Of the year coming up in a couple of weeks,

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Speaker 8: will the airlines be ready? And to the surprise of

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Speaker 8: some but not necessarily to me, within a few days

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Speaker 8: they had pretty much everything back in line. It's a

601
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Speaker 8: lot like if we've got a severe weather storm that

602
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Speaker 8: comes through let's say the northeast sor it's a blizzard

603
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Speaker 8: and it shuts down a lot of the airports in

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Speaker 8: the Northeast. Once the storm passes, it's a matter of

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00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 8: just three or four days before the airlines are back

606
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Speaker 8: on full schedule. They've got all the you know, the

607
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Speaker 8: pieces in the proper place, and they're able to resume

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Speaker 8: a normal operation. And that's exactly what the airline officials

609
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Speaker 8: were saying right after the.

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Speaker 7: Shutdown was ending.

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Speaker 8: They said, look, we anticipate being you know, all hands

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Speaker 8: on deck back to a full schedule. And certainly it

613
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Speaker 8: was nice because we had more of the air traffic

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Speaker 8: controllers that were reporting for work. And you know, Mike,

615
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Speaker 8: what's important to remember is prior to the shutdown, we

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Speaker 8: were averaging because we had that you know that we

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Speaker 8: still are short on air traffic controllers. We were averaging

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Speaker 8: about thirty nine hundred delayed flights a day. That was

619
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Speaker 8: normal for us because the fact that when you would

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Speaker 8: have too many flights in the specific area, we didn't

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Speaker 8: have enough air traffic controllers. The FAA has a very

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Speaker 8: good traffic management system that slows things down out a

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Speaker 8: lot of times you might be on a ground stop

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Speaker 8: where you're on a flight in Cincinnati, you're on the plane,

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00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 8: they're ready to take office. They no, we've got a

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Speaker 8: ground stop for twenty minutes before we can leave for

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Speaker 8: Dallas or for New York. And what's happened is they

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Speaker 8: kick something in. It might be a weather that's caused it,

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Speaker 8: or it may be just from a traffic mansip. At standpoint,

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Speaker 8: there's too many planes, so they thin that out just

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Speaker 8: a bit. It's very safety oriented and it's designed for

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Speaker 8: a specific purpose. So you know, we're still dealing with that.

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Speaker 8: You know, the average of three to four thousand flight

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Speaker 8: delays a day, but it's not being compounded by the

635
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Speaker 8: fact that we have so many more air traffic controllers

636
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Speaker 8: that are you know, calling in because they're going to

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Speaker 8: work a job that they can get paid for, versus

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Speaker 8: showing up for.

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Speaker 7: A job they don't get paid for.

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Speaker 8: So, you know, and that's why I was glad President

641
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Speaker 8: Trump came out and said, we'd like to give these

642
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Speaker 8: people a ten thousand dollars bonus, those that were here

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Speaker 8: without caught. But Mike, you know, some of the people

644
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Speaker 8: were insulted by that.

645
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Speaker 1: Why, I mean, I thought they deserve it. As far

646
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Speaker 1: as I'm concerned.

647
00:36:58,360 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 7: Oh, they do.

648
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 8: But they're saying's got to sign on bonus of one

649
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,479
Speaker 8: hundred thousand dollars. We should be getting more than ten.

650
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 8: And you know, I was reading these reports and I'm thinking, Okay,

651
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 8: I know how I was raised.

652
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 7: I got a pretty good yea how you were raised.

653
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 8: If my boss skipped in the door and says, Jay,

654
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 8: I'd like to give you a ten thousand dollars bonus

655
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 8: for a job well done, the last words coming out

656
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 8: of my mouth are going to be is that all?

657
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 8: But you know, I think some of this is unfortunately

658
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 8: rooted in politics. I think that had this been something

659
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 8: coming from President Biben, Oh yeah, I think some of

660
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 8: these people complaining maybe what have said it now not

661
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 8: all and I may be reading way too much into it.

662
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 8: And I will be the very first to say, these

663
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 8: men and women for the last eight nine years and

664
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 8: longer have not known what a five day work week is.

665
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 8: Because the fact that we are three thousand plus air

666
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 8: traffic controller shorts. They're working five, six, seven day weeks

667
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 8: at length, and they're exhausted. And I recognize some of

668
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 8: them are saying, look, I appreciate the ten thousand dollars,

669
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 8: but you know, we're exhausted. And the two things that

670
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 8: Donald Trump among many when he took into office saying,

671
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 8: we've got to address the air traffic controller shortage. But

672
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 8: it's not like walking over to us sink and turning

673
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 8: up the spicket where more water comes out, because brother,

674
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 8: only so much water comes out of that spicket, and

675
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 8: it's already cranked all the way up. We've got as

676
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 8: many training facilities as we can, we're maxing those out.

677
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 8: We've got a specific number of air traffic controller trainers

678
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 8: and we're maxed out there, and we're pushing fifteen, sixteen,

679
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 8: seventeen hundred a year through this, and we've got to

680
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 8: increase the facilities we've got, increased the number of instructors

681
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 8: to push that number high so that we can get

682
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 8: caught up. And sadly, as most people know, you want

683
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 8: the day you sign on to be an air traffic

684
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 8: controller and training it maybe five years before you're on

685
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 8: the job, working by yourself. It's a long process. So

686
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 8: hopefully President Trump can get that fixed before he leaves office.

687
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 7: Or close to it.

688
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 8: And also, the technology that you and I've talked about

689
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 8: so many times over the years that so antiquated. He's

690
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 8: saying we're gonna update that as well.

691
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 7: And you know, if he does those two things as.

692
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 8: He leaves office, it will impact aviation for the next

693
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Speaker 8: ten or fifteen years. I like it a lot to

694
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 8: him selecting a Supreme Court justice. He puts somebody in place,

695
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 8: and it's going to have an impact for the next

696
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 8: twenty years. And if he can make this stuff happen, Mike,

697
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 8: I will be thrilled because other presidents have talked about

698
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 8: it and done nothing.

699
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 7: Yep.

700
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 8: So if he follows through on this, there will be

701
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 8: a big time benefit to aviation where we'll see a

702
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 8: lot more flights. And if aviation does double over the

703
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 8: course the next ten to fifteen years, as we expect it,

704
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 8: will will be in a position to handle it, you know.

705
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: Kind of dubtailing on that question, Jay Ratliffe in watching

706
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 1: this and that's all I do is watch it, and

707
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: I'm not an expert like you, but it sure seems

708
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: like Sean Duffy has done a bang up job as

709
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: the director of the Transportation Department on this thing. I mean,

710
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: at least he was front and center during this whole thing,

711
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 1: and I was impressed. But again, I'm not on the ground.

712
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: I don't know for sure. I wanted to kind of

713
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Speaker 1: see what you thought.

714
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 7: Oh, I'm a big Sean Duffy fan. I'll be honest.

715
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 8: There have been some things the Department Transportation has done

716
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 8: recently that.

717
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 7: I've not agreed with.

718
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 8: But you know, he was always trying to keep everybody

719
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 8: update on what was going on. He was telling the

720
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Speaker 8: good or the bad, whatever it was. I don't think

721
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 8: too many things were sugar coated. Sometimes you got that

722
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 8: political spin on things. I didn't feel like a lot

723
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 8: of that was coming from him. And you know, it

724
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 8: was last week he said, now, you know, people need

725
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 8: to stop wearting the pajamas to the airport. Well, that's

726
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 8: really not the place of government to step in and

727
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 8: say it would be nice if you dressed up and

728
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 8: showed a little bit more respect to when you dress

729
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 8: coming to the airport, because that's not the job of government.

730
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,760
Speaker 8: So please, let's go deal with more important things. Because

731
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 8: you know, you know, every time I see somebody shuffling

732
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 8: into an airplane and their slippers and their pajamas and

733
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 8: their pillow to get on an airplane, it's January and

734
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 8: I'm thinking now, if we have to do an emergency

735
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 8: evacuation in Detroit on the ramp when it was thirty degrees,

736
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 8: you're going to wish you to warn something a little

737
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 8: bit more than those little jammis that the wind will

738
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 8: go right through. But you know it's but yeah, I'm

739
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 8: a big Sean Duffy fan. I think the Department Transportations

740
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 8: doing a good job. And if you will, I'll tell

741
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 8: you something they did recently that kind of take.

742
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to I'm want to ask you about that.

743
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 8: Yeah, there was a delayed compensation rule that just a

744
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 8: while back that the it was announced that the Department

745
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 8: Transportation is not going to be pursuing And the thing

746
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 8: that bothered me on that was that, you know that

747
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 8: this was something that was about a year ago that

748
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 8: Joe Biden, the Biden administration came out with a cash

749
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 8: compensation rule and basically it meant that if you were

750
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 8: iirre delayed by more than three hours on a flight

751
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 8: and it's there and it's the fault of the airline,

752
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 8: not weather or anything like that, we could be entitled

753
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 8: to some cash compensation that would be several hundred dollars.

754
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 8: The rule would have also guaranteed meals, lodging when needed,

755
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 8: in ground transportation when appropriate. And even though I was

756
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 8: never a fan of the Biden administration in any regard Mike,

757
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 8: I was very very appreciative of how the Bide deministration

758
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 8: went after airlines, especially the last two years. If the

759
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 8: airlines were kind of doing things they shouldn't be doing.

760
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 8: I mean, they were getting hammered, and I loved it.

761
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 8: Boeing was getting hammered, as was the airlines. So then

762
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 8: the Trump administration comes into power, all the airline stocks

763
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,240
Speaker 8: go up, and people said, now, Jay, you trade stocks.

764
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 8: Why did the stocks go up? I said, because it's

765
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 8: going to be a real cozy relationship between the airlines

766
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 8: and the Trump administration. It was the first time around,

767
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 8: it will be now. A lot of these airlines and

768
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 8: Bowing donated a million dollars each to the Trump indaugural

769
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 8: fund when it's yeah.

770
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 7: I f all of the money, right, brother.

771
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 8: So what happens here is now the airlines have a

772
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 8: very very powerful lobby. They're telling the government, look, this

773
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 8: cash compensation rule is not really good for us. So

774
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 8: the dot yeah, put it and drawer never to be

775
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 8: seen again. So that bothers me because it's the airlines

776
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 8: telling the government what to do instead of the other

777
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 8: way around. And even Boeing Boeing during under the Biden

778
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 8: administration admitted to criminal charges in UH as a result

779
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 8: of the two Boeing Max crashes that killed what three

780
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 8: hundred and forty six people, right, and they covered they

781
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 8: covered things up, they lied all kinds of things, and

782
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 8: they admitted you know, criminal UH in a criminal court,

783
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 8: you know, responsibility, right. Donald Trump's get gets elected and

784
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 8: what do they do. They go back into the DOJ saying,

785
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 8: you know, we'd like to walk back some of those

786
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 8: previous admissions, and sure enough they were allowed to do it.

787
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 8: And the never it's not going to go to court,

788
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 8: some out of court settlement that was done and the

789
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 8: families are just throwing a fit because they didn't feel

790
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 8: like it should have been. But that was also allowed

791
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 8: by the Department of Transportation. So that those kind of

792
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 8: things really bother me because when you don't have a

793
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 8: system in place it's going to hold airlines and Bowling accountable.

794
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 8: It gives them permission to keep doing the same craft

795
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 8: they've been doing, and airlines are going to trade this

796
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 8: like garbage and look Delta, I love they're my carrier

797
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 8: of choice. They had a quarter last year that they

798
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 8: reported a billion dollar profit in a single quarter, so

799
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 8: did unite it almost So they're making that much money

800
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 8: and they're saying this cash compensation rule.

801
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 7: No, let's let's not give.

802
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 8: Any of this to you a passenger. We'll throw them

803
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 8: five thousand frequent by myriles to try to appease them. Well,

804
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 8: thank you very much for that. That that's more of

805
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 8: an insult than anything else.

806
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: Now, and I agree with you on that. It kind

807
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: of surprised. I just wonder if Congress could override I'm

808
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: sure it's an executive order, but I don't know.

809
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 8: Dead in the water, Mike, it really is, and it

810
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 8: just it's unfortunate. It's like if an airline is shown

811
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,919
Speaker 8: to not have done certain things, nothing serious but maybe

812
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 8: a maintenance type thing of a minor situation on certain

813
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 8: aircraft by a certain date, they're fined ten million dollars. Well,

814
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 8: then by the time it's done, the FAA recommended of

815
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 8: ten million has been negotiated down to one and a

816
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 8: half million, as long as they promise never to do

817
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 8: it again.

818
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 7: Oh thank you.

819
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 6: You know that's great.

820
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,439
Speaker 8: I'm sorry, officer, I got this speeding ticket, and can

821
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 8: you cut it in by ninety percent if I promise

822
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 8: never to do it again. Those are the kind of

823
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 8: games that have been going on for decades with the

824
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 8: airline industry. It bothered me when I was a part

825
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 8: of it, and it bothers me now, and every single

826
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 8: time I see it, I'm going to speak out about

827
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 8: it because I just don't like it. It doesn't mean I'm

828
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 8: against the Trump administration. Anybody knows me knows that's not

829
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 8: the case. But I believe in holding airlines accountable. And

830
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 8: if people are saying, Jay, why is it that we're

831
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 8: treated like garbage every time we fly and airlines don't

832
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 8: do any better? Because there's no incentive. As long as

833
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 8: we keep coming back and flying packing airplanes like we're

834
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,280
Speaker 8: doing right now, there's zero incentive for airlines to ever

835
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 8: change what they're doing. And as a result, what takes

836
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 8: place is they're going to continue. That's why when these

837
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 8: surveys come out about the best airlines in the world,

838
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 8: people want to know how many airlines from the US

839
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 8: made the top twenty.

840
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,280
Speaker 7: I laugh. Zero.

841
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 8: We never make those look because, yeah, customer service is

842
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 8: non existent in the in the in this country because

843
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 8: of how we're treated. Go fly another carrier as in coach,

844
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 8: and you'll see the difference and it.

845
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 7: Will blow you away.

846
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 8: On wow, I actually feel appreciated when I fly Airlines

847
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 8: such and such internationally versus how I'm treated when I'm

848
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 8: going from Chicago.

849
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: I get. I didn't think it was that bad. Hey,

850
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 1: just in past you mentioned Boeing. Are they recovering? Will

851
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,399
Speaker 1: they recover? I think I asked you this last time

852
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 1: I talked to you. How's that going well?

853
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 8: I mean, if you believe what they're saying, they're they're

854
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 8: they're moving in the right direction. But five six years ago,

855
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 8: when they promised that they were going to do better,

856
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,959
Speaker 8: they learned from their examples, and you know, after those

857
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,760
Speaker 8: lives were lost that we talked about as an idiot,

858
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 8: I believe them. I believe their paragraphs of promise and

859
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 8: all this other garbage that they said about how they

860
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Speaker 8: were going to become a better, more you know, uh,

861
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 8: safety driven producer of aircraft. And then we had last

862
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 8: January the dwarf flying off the last air Airlines flight

863
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 8: that wasn't even secured. So I believed them before I

864
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 8: will not do that now. I'll tell you in four

865
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 8: or five years if Boeing has lived up to their promises,

866
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 8: Because anytime that you're pushing airplanes through the production like

867
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 8: they were and telling employees go to the scrap bend

868
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 8: and pick the best failed part so we can put

869
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,439
Speaker 8: it on an airplane because we don't want to slow

870
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 8: the production schedule.

871
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: Mike, I don't know how.

872
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 8: I don't know what you can say to that that

873
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 8: would explain how that any of that is okay, right,

874
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,720
Speaker 8: But according to the whistleblowers and the people that investigated,

875
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 8: that went on for a long period of time at Boeing,

876
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 8: and that's just wrong. So they said they've stopped doing it.

877
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 8: I don't know, have they I hope So I just

878
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 8: hope nothing happens that shows that they didn't do what

879
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 8: they said they were.

880
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 6: Going to do.

881
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 7: Yeah.

882
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it is what it is, and you

883
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: can't justify that stuff, obviously. Hey, I wanted to ask

884
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: you too. We talked a little bit about it, but uh,

885
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 1: what is the biggest challenge that a traveler faces during

886
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: this week, this holiday week? And what can they do

887
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: to kind of at least try to obviate it? A

888
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: little bit.

889
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 8: Well, I tell you the biggest thing is the busiest

890
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 8: travel day of the year is typically the Sunday after

891
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 8: Thanksgiving coming up. The second busiest was on Wednesday. We

892
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 8: had two point seven million people fly. The biggest thing

893
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 8: is if you get to the airport on time, two

894
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 8: hours before departure, which you have to do this time

895
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 8: of year, get to the gate, and if you find

896
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 8: out your flight is canceled with every flight being full.

897
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 8: If you've got a family of three or four that

898
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 8: are trying to get let's say to Orlando and every

899
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,720
Speaker 8: flight's full, and they're telling you, I'm sorry, your flight's canceled.

900
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 8: We can't get you out till Monday afternoon or Tuesday morning.

901
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 8: One of the things that you can do is tell

902
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 8: the agent, believe me, who's desperately trying to get you

903
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 8: to your destination, say, look, can you get me instead

904
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 8: of Orlando to Tampa Saint Pete, Daytona Beach. I mean

905
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 8: get me to a surrounding airport. I'll check and make

906
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 8: sure that I can get a rental car, and if

907
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 8: I do, I'll pay for that. So if you can

908
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 8: fly me to Daytona, I can drive to my destination.

909
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 8: If you can give the agent three or four good destinations,

910
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 8: that's great. And if you're at the airport in a line,

911
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 8: instead of waiting until you get up to the line,

912
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 8: pull out social media. If you're standing in line, stay there.

913
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 8: But I go to Facebook and I'll send Delta a

914
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 8: message through Facebook saying here's my six digit confirmation number.

915
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 8: My flight's been delayed. I'm worried about my connection. What

916
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 8: options do I have? So either the agent I get

917
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 8: to first, or something through that message that allows me

918
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 8: to book something.

919
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 7: Yeah.

920
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 8: Grow the number of agents with airlines that are addressed

921
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 8: to social media. If you're using the old Twitter or

922
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 8: you're using Facebook or any other way to reach out

923
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 8: to them, you don't make it a public post. It's

924
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 8: a private message. Nobody sees your information. But you can

925
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 8: just give them that six digit. Don't complain about the

926
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 8: last ten flights you've been on. It's got to be

927
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 8: very short, very brief, saying look, I'm here, here's my

928
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 8: confirmation number. Flight's been canceled. What are my options. Many

929
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 8: times they'll give you two or three. You pick one.

930
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 8: Long before you get to the front of the line.

931
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 8: The line, it's done, and you kind of go from there.

932
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 8: The other thing, Mike is don't show up at the

933
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 8: airport this time of year without to see this asignment,

934
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:02,919
Speaker 8: because we have flights that are over sold, which means

935
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 8: anybody that doesn't have a seat assignment, technically you're on

936
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 8: standby waiting for them to clear you. I don't care

937
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 8: if it's a middle seat. You grab whatever seat you can,

938
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 8: and if you want to get to the airport and

939
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 8: try to move things around, you can try. But I

940
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 8: see so many people saying, well, Jay, they're only like

941
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,879
Speaker 8: four seats, they were all middle and I didn't take

942
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 8: any of them. And then I hear from them they're

943
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 8: saying like, I almost didn't make the flight. Yeah, you

944
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 8: know why, because you didn't have a seat assignment. If

945
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 8: you're able to make it, I don't care what it is,

946
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 8: make sure you grab something so you've got a seat

947
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 8: assignment to go along with the reservation, especially over the

948
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:35,439
Speaker 8: holiday travel seas.

949
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 7: You got to have it.

950
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:40,240
Speaker 1: Good advice, Jay ratlif As is all of your advice.

951
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:44,280
Speaker 1: Really appreciate it, and thanks for joining us today.

952
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 7: Looking to catch up with you soon, brother, every.

953
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 1: Time we will. Thanks Jay. All right, all right, I'll

954
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: tell you what I didn't know that about the seat

955
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 1: assignment I've had. That's really good information. I got to

956
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: tell you last year this time. That was a little

957
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:04,399
Speaker 1: after that, traveled to Mexico around Christmas, and I told

958
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 1: Jay this at the time, I could not complain at

959
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 1: all about the manners, the service, the attention to detail

960
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: that TSA showed, and the booking agents at the airlines too.

961
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: You know, you go in there. I think at least

962
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: I did prepare to Oh God, what's gonna happen?

963
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 7: Now?

964
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 1: It was impressive. It's really been that way the last

965
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 1: couple of times I've traveled. So I'm gonna I'm cutting

966
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: them a brake for now. But at any rates, always

967
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: good to hear from Jay. Hey, listen, we are going

968
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: to take a break here, but when we get back,

969
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk politics, and we are going to talk

970
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 1: politics with independent political analyst Kevin Burton. Kevin gives it

971
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 1: to you right down the line, and that's the way

972
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: I like it on these kind of things. So we're

973
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 1: gonna be talking about Trump and his numbers falling down,

974
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: and if the Democrats finally got interact together. We'll do

975
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 1: that when we get back. Mike Allen Infrawillie's seven hundred

976
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: WLW or Willie Cunningham. Well, I'll tell you what a

977
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 1: lot of people are asking the question after the results

978
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty five off year elections came in.

979
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 1: Are the Democrats actually showing a pulse? Here to talk about?

980
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: That is independent political strategist and analyst Kevin Burton. Kevin,

981
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us today.

982
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 4: Mike, thanks for having me my pleasure.

983
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 1: Okay, your answer to that question, are they showing a

984
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: pulse after a long time of not showing a pulse?

985
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously the answer is yes, you know, they

986
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 3: are back from the dead. I always compare it to

987
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 3: kind of like an NBA team where you just have

988
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 3: to kind of thank you know, they were in the

989
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:50,280
Speaker 3: wilderness and now they're kind of getting back on their feet.

990
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 3: And we're gonna see a really interesting thing on Tuesday

991
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 3: that's not being talked about a lot. Is the Tennessee

992
00:52:56,320 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 3: seventh Congressional District. Oh okay, well knows, I know it's

993
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:07,439
Speaker 3: very wonky. No, no, now, right now, it actually shows

994
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 3: that the polling could be almost equal where the Republican

995
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 3: candidate won by twenty two points.

996
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 4: Last presidential cycle.

997
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 3: So it's very similar to what we've talked about, you know,

998
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 3: me and you over the years. That's the greatest thing

999
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 3: about America. It's the give and take. When one side

1000
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 3: gets too far the others, the people punch back, you know.

1001
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 4: So for the Democrats, it's kind of amazing.

1002
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 3: That their party leadership is just abysmal, but the last

1003
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 3: month has been really good for them on the ballot boxes.

1004
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 1: That one you're talking about in Tennessee, is that the

1005
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: one where the Democrat candidate said something like she hates

1006
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: Nashville and all kinds of things like that, and they're

1007
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: trying to clabor her with it, and it doesn't look

1008
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: like it's succeeding. Is that the right? The one I'm talking.

1009
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 3: About, Yeah, it's the seventh district is kind of like

1010
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 3: the Nashville area. Yeah, which you know, probably I'm not

1011
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 3: involved in that race, but I would imagine that she's

1012
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 3: probably trying to get the some rural votes. But it's

1013
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 3: kind of a bold strategy to say you hate the city.

1014
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 4: That really makes But so we'll see.

1015
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 3: But you know, special elections generally always favored the opposition

1016
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 3: party just because they're motivated.

1017
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 4: No, I got you, so we'll keep we'll keep an

1018
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 4: eye on that.

1019
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 3: And also, you know, it goes to the presidential polling numbers,

1020
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 3: which aren't very great right now. So for as bad

1021
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 3: as the Democrats have been, they're only saving grace right now.

1022
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 3: Is the number one issue that we heard from Zoran

1023
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 3: Mindani affordability, and that's what they're running on.

1024
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 1: They're all over that one. Hey, before we get into

1025
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 1: those numbers, because I've got them here and I do

1026
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 1: want to talk to you about them. But at its core, though,

1027
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:01,439
Speaker 1: Kevin Burton, don't the Democrats have a real, what could

1028
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: be long lasting problem of identity? You know, what do

1029
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 1: you want to be? Do you want to be moderate

1030
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 1: or do you want to be liberal? And how do

1031
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: you see that playing out with respect to the the

1032
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: midterms in twenty twenty six. It sure seems like that

1033
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: problem is not going to go away.

1034
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 3: Well, but it's you know, it's exactly no different than

1035
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 3: what the Republicans had to do after twenty twelve. You know,

1036
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:31,399
Speaker 3: the conventional wisdom told them to go keep pushing more

1037
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 3: and more moderate because Romney lost, and you know, the

1038
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 3: Tea Party movement and then the Maga movement basically wiped

1039
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 3: out the establishment, and in a lot of ways, the

1040
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 3: Democrats are feeling the exact same. They're tired of the neocons.

1041
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 3: They're tired of you know, the Chuck Schumers. They're tired

1042
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,439
Speaker 3: of all these people who've been in office who sailed them.

1043
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 3: So convinsional wisdom say that they should shift more back

1044
00:55:58,680 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 3: to the middle.

1045
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 4: But I just don't see that happening. I see more

1046
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 4: and more.

1047
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:08,280
Speaker 3: You know, Nancy Pelosi retired because she had a millennial

1048
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 3: running against her, basically just saying, what have you done

1049
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 3: besides pocket yourself?

1050
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: What do you think is gonna happen? I'm sorry with

1051
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 1: that Schumer race, I'm just curious about that. Will AOC

1052
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,919
Speaker 1: take him on or will he go quietly into the night?

1053
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 3: Well for AOC, if you know, she has it's kind

1054
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 3: of like Lane Kiffin, She's the Lane Kiffin of She

1055
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 3: has decided, she has decided do you want to run

1056
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 3: for Senate, stay as a house or try to run

1057
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,240
Speaker 3: for president. So it's just the exact same thing where

1058
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 3: you know, if you're advising her, there's all three avenues

1059
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 3: that you could take. You know, if she announced that

1060
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 3: she was running against Schumer, I mean, I don't think

1061
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,320
Speaker 3: it takes anyone with a political science degree.

1062
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 4: Regardless of what you think of her.

1063
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 3: She has the audience, she has the fandais, she has

1064
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 3: the momentum. And you know, Chuck Schumer is he's the

1065
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 3: other side of the coin of Mitch McConnell. You know,

1066
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 3: for twenty plus years, these two have sold out Americans

1067
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 3: to corporations, and frankly, people on both sides of the

1068
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 3: aisle are just tired of it.

1069
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you're right, I think for both parties

1070
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 1: it's kind of a change in opinion about that. Well,

1071
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: let's get into some of the numbers here public perception

1072
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 1: of the Democrat Party, and I wanted to ask how

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Speaker 1: they get around this. And this is the Real Clear

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Speaker 1: Politics average of polls, which is supposedly the most accurate one.

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Speaker 1: I don't know when they were in the field, but

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Speaker 1: it's the most recent one that I could find. Do

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Speaker 1: you view the Democrat Party favorably or unfavorably? Favorably it

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00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 1: was only thirty four percent. Unfaithed is sixty percent. Now

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00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: the Republicans aren't much better. But Kevin, I just I

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Speaker 1: respect what you're saying. I don't see how they get

1081
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Speaker 1: around that, and Republicans who are sitting on their butts

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Speaker 1: thinking we're going to cruise through the midterms. They're wrong.

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Speaker 1: They're as wrong as uh, you know, they're as wrong

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Speaker 1: as those numbers would appear to be at least people

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Speaker 1: like you think. I don't know if that makes any sense,

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Speaker 1: but what are you think of that?

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00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 3: It all comes down to affordability And it's that simple.

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00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 3: I mean, listen, look out throughout history.

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00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 4: You know, George H. W.

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00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 3: Bush lost when he was a very popular president because

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00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 3: inflation and the economy tanked. Joe Biden, we just saw

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00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 3: what happened, you know, a couple of years ago. Right now,

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00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 3: the majority to a two to one margin. People believe

1094
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 3: that Trump's tariffs have caused more problems. And for the Democrats,

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00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 3: it's simply just being like, hey, I'm here. They're like,

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00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 3: you know, they don't have a message. And frankly, you know,

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Speaker 3: I think people on both sides were mad that Trump

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00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 3: and Mandonnie met with each other. But this is America.

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Speaker 3: That's what you're supposed to do, right, I mean, I

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Speaker 3: don't know why this is breaking news, Like you're the

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00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 3: mayor of the largest city and he's the president.

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Speaker 4: Of course you should meet.

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00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 3: So affordability is the number one issue going forward. Number

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Speaker 3: two will probably be healthcare. Immigration has really quieted down,

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00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 3: so it's really going to be those two things, affordability

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00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 3: and healthcare. And as the Democrats are the alternatives because

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00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 3: you're always going to blame the party in power. You

1108
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 3: just are in Republicans control, you know, all three branches

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00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 3: right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, for a while, and you and

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00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: I talked about it, I was somewhat optimistic that perhaps

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00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 1: this could be different and the party in power would

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00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 1: stay in power. It's such a thin majority, though, I

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00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 1: don't know. We'll have to see. Now. I am a

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00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 1: very fair individual. So we're going to talk about the

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00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: president's numbers, which are not good. Nate Silver's silver bulletin aggregator.

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Speaker 1: Are you familiar with that?

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Speaker 4: It's supposed to be pretty yeah, okay, Yeah, here's.

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Speaker 1: What it says. Trump's overall approval declined from forty four

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Speaker 1: point three percent to forty one point three percent in

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Speaker 1: the last month and change, while his disapproval rate rose

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Speaker 1: even more sharply in the same timeframe, from fifty one

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01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: point nine percent to fifty six point two percent. So

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Speaker 1: I mean you're right, his poll numbers are not going

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Speaker 1: the right way going into the midterms. And then the

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Speaker 1: other thing too, And we've talked about this, Kevin, and

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Speaker 1: this hurts Republicans. These maga voters will not get out

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Speaker 1: the vote unless Donald J. Trump is on the ballot.

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Speaker 1: That's not true of all of them, but for a

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Speaker 1: pretty good number of them. That's a problem for Republicans

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01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 1: when you think, well, but.

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Speaker 3: It's no different than the Democrats with Obama. People need

1133
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 3: to realize that Donald Trump, love them or hate them,

1134
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 3: is a once in a generation political figure dame as

1135
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 3: Barack Obama. You have to stop trying to emulate them

1136
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 3: because you're not going to You're just true.

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01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 1: Not that's true.

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01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 3: You have to figure out you have to figure out

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Speaker 3: a different way to win elections. Like and frankly, you know,

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Speaker 3: Democrats are still kind of searching for you know, I

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01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 3: would say it's kind of like how you know, New

1142
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 3: England was searching for only five years and then they

1143
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 3: found their other star quarterback. You know, parties latch on

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01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 3: to their generational people. But the problem is there's a

1145
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 3: reason that they are generational. They don't grow on trees,

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01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 3: and Republicans are going to have to come to terms

1147
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 3: with that pretty soon that you know, look at Ron DeSantis.

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01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 3: You can try to be a maga lae, try to

1149
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 3: emulate you.

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Speaker 4: Know, Donald Trump in so many ways.

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Speaker 3: But when push comes to shove and it's the presidential primary,

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01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 3: he got squashed like a bug.

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Speaker 1: Yep. I was one of the ones I thought that

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Speaker 1: he would be competitive. I mean, how wrong.

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Speaker 3: And you know Kamala tried to basically run as Obama,

1156
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 3: but the voters saw through it. So the Republicans are

1157
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 3: going to have to have a come to Jesus meeting

1158
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 3: after the midterms that listen, like, you can't use the

1159
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Speaker 3: Trump playbook because Trump's one of one.

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Speaker 1: He just does true true, you know, I along those lines,

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Speaker 1: I need to ask you. It's just frustrating to me

1162
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 1: because I don't I just don't find it important. But

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Speaker 1: apparently everybody else does. The whole Epstein Gate thing with Trump,

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Speaker 1: it seems like it's still dogging him and probably will

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Speaker 1: into the not too distant future. I mean, your thoughts

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Speaker 1: on that.

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Speaker 3: I know this is not your show, but I was

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Speaker 3: on your show what nine months.

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Speaker 4: Ago when this broke and what did I say, ham

1170
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Speaker 4: BONDI or fire cash to.

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Speaker 3: Tell you gotta throw someone to the wool, right right.

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Speaker 3: I mean still to this day they objectively they have

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01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 3: bought this whole thing.

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01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 4: Because they put they put themselves.

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Speaker 3: In a corner that either the Epstein would file was

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01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 3: something or nothing. And they've put they're in a corner

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01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 3: now and now they're darned if they do, darned if

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01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 3: they don't. You know, For Trump, it's actually very just

1179
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 3: fascinating because his.

1180
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Speaker 4: First term, his poll numbers for the economy.

1181
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 5: With sky high and it's.

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Speaker 3: Foreign policies people did not like. And now it's the

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Speaker 3: exact opposite this time around.

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Speaker 1: You know. And with respect to Epstein, I mean, I think,

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Speaker 1: what do I know. I mean, I'm not in the

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01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 1: middle of it, but they could have diffused that thing,

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01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 1: or at least tamped it down somewhat early on. It's

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01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 1: kind of the drip drip drip thing. And yes it's important.

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Speaker 1: I mean, horrible things happened to those those victims. But

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01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 1: don't you think, though, if they had some kind of

1191
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 1: smoke and gun on Trump, we'd have known about it

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01:03:57,800 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 1: a long time ago.

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01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 4: So you are the prosecutor here.

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01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 3: So my only thing is if it sounds like a

1195
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 3: duck acts like a duck at the very least, it

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01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 3: knows something about duck.

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01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 4: You know, they have botched this whole thing.

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Speaker 3: You know, there's there is they were friends at one point.

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Speaker 4: There's no way to disagree with it. I mean, when

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Speaker 4: you me and you've known.

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01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 3: Each other for ten years and I don't see any

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01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 3: pictures of me and you.

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01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 1: Dancing together, that's pretty good. No, And I hear that,

1204
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I think when they're teaching campaign school,

1205
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 1: they're going to teach people that that ain't the right

1206
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 1: way to handle it. Just let it keep dripping like.

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Speaker 3: That a lot of ways, in a lot of ways,

1208
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Speaker 3: this is the Benghazi.

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01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 4: Yeah it is, and you know.

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Speaker 3: The drip and how you're talking about it when it's

1211
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 3: a drip, a slow stream that just ends up building

1212
01:04:56,920 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 3: into a river that you can't stop.

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01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 4: Those are always the hardest thing.

1214
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 3: In politics because when something bad happens right away and

1215
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 3: you can counter it, people are like, Okay, yeah, you know.

1216
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 4: These things happen.

1217
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Speaker 3: This has been nine months and it's not going away.

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01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 3: And when frankly, they release whatever's released, we still have

1219
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:17,479
Speaker 3: people who think the.

1220
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Speaker 4: Moon landing's not real. JFK so it's already they've already

1221
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 4: lost the narrative.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, I thought, now you correct me if

1223
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 1: I'm wrong, that they've released with this last go round.

1224
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 1: I mean, pretty much everything they can. I know the

1225
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 1: Democrats will keep pounding it and I understand that that's politics,

1226
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 1: but I don't know. And at the end of the day,

1227
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter because he's got beaten up enough

1228
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 1: about it. But again I returned to if they were

1229
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 1: a smoking gun, they would have found it already. But

1230
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 1: the poll numbers indicate that people are interested in that

1231
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Speaker 1: for whatever reason.

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Speaker 3: And you know, going back to Nixon, it wasn't when

1233
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 3: nexton did. It's always the cuff up big. So they're

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01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 3: redactive and that you know, and we talked about this,

1235
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 3: you know, nine months ago on your show.

1236
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 4: This is politics.

1237
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 3: Someone needed to just go find them a nice, cushy

1238
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 3: job afterwards. But you know, this problem is gonna be

1239
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 3: here to stay. And what's interesting is this is actually,

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01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 3: I think going to be something that hinders jd vance

1241
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 3: in you think three years well, because you know, looking

1242
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 3: at Hillary Clinton with beIN Ghazi, what did what did

1243
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 3: the Republicans do?

1244
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 4: They kept saying the emails and ghazi.

1245
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Speaker 3: So if I if you're the Democrats looking forward in

1246
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 3: three years, you're gonna say, what did jd Vance know?

1247
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 3: Why were any names redactive? Who are the redactive names?

1248
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 3: Even if it's for the privacy, they've lost the narrative,

1249
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 3: and you know, it's really hard to get the narrative

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Speaker 3: back once.

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01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 1: It's lost, no question about it. I've only got about

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01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 1: a minute here, and you touched on it briefly. We've

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01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 1: only got a minute, but and we'll pick it up

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01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 1: the next time. The Trump Mondami meeting. Your thoughts on that,

1255
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 1: and I think you gave them generally. Let me give

1256
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 1: you mine real quick, because I've already gotten some crap

1257
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 1: about it. I mean, I thought it was a good thing.

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01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 1: I mean, people want to see some congeniality. And I

1259
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 1: think Mandamie conducted himself completely appropriately. He was respectful to

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01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 1: the president and of course as Trump was back to

1261
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 1: him there night and day on policy and everything else.

1262
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 1: But I don't know, and it might hurt it probably

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01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 1: will hurt Trump somewhat with his megabase. But what are

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on that? In a minute?

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Speaker 4: This is America. You're supposed to talk to the other side,

1266
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 4: right It's not.

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Speaker 3: That hard, Mandaonnie's the mayor of the largest city.

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Speaker 4: Trump's the president. And also they're both New York guys.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 4: There is there.

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01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 3: Is something about like you know if someone from Cincinnati

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01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 3: and you're on the opposite side and you still care

1273
01:07:56,520 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 3: about your hometown. And lastly, they are both just they

1274
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 3: both understand media better than anyone else.

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Speaker 1: Very true. Well, I'll tell you what you could You

1276
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 1: could tell that just by watching them. Hey man, we

1277
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 1: are out of time, but we'll definitely pick this one up.

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Speaker 7: Kevin.

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Speaker 3: Well, Hey, happy Thanksgiving and thank you once again.

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Speaker 7: Mike.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Kevin, same to you. Appreciate it, right, all right?

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Speaker 1: Kevin Burton, Well, I like these conversations and that kind

1283
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 1: of grounds you too. And the Trump thing, like I said,

1284
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 1: I have gotten a little bit a grief from that,

1285
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:33,639
Speaker 1: but my god, with all the knives in everyone's back

1286
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:36,759
Speaker 1: and the and the backbiting for once, you know, people

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Speaker 1: were congenial, and you know, Kevin said at the very end,

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Speaker 1: they're both New Yorkers and I think they both love

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Speaker 1: New York. And we'll see. I mean, I if Montdommy

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Speaker 1: says what he's going to do, and if you can

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Speaker 1: pull it off. That is going to be a disaster.

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Speaker 1: But hey, we shall see. We need to take a break.

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Speaker 1: Butt when we come back, we're gonna check in with

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Speaker 1: our real estate expert, Greg Stanley, residential real estate expert,

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01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:00,679
Speaker 1: on just what's going on in the real state market

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Speaker 1: here in the greater Cincinnati area. We'll do that when

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Speaker 1: we get back. Mike Allen In for Willy's seven hundred

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Speaker 1: WLW News Radio seven hundred WLW. Mike Allen In for

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Speaker 1: the Great American at Willie Cunningham. Be back tomorrow normal

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01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 1: time nine to noon for Saturday midday. But appreciate WILLI

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Speaker 1: giving me the shot here. Well, I'll tell you what

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01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 1: we're getting. Close to the end of the year, Christmas

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01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:31,559
Speaker 1: is coming. We've done this throughout the year.

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Speaker 4: To get an.

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01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 1: Update on the local real estate market, we call on

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Speaker 1: our real estate analyst, Greg Stanley with Kobe and Shepherd Reelers. Greg,

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Speaker 1: thanks for joining us this say afternoon.

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Speaker 5: Hey Mike, thanks for having me on again. Certainly appreciate it,

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01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:48,639
Speaker 5: love your show.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: I hope you had a great Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: I did too. I'm really starting to get into that,

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01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 1: are you. It sounds like you did too. Are you

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01:09:57,880 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 1: starting to get that oot tide filling.

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Speaker 5: I am starting to get that U tidde fellon.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's for sure. Okay, yeah, let me ask you.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you what is up in the local

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Speaker 1: real estate market. From following you, Greg and talking to you,

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01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:13,680
Speaker 1: it seems like it's kind of been an up and

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Speaker 1: down year.

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Speaker 5: It has, you know what, those Cincinnati continues to defy

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01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 5: the national numbers, right, I mean really, if you I

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01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 5: was looking, I was, yeah, I mean, and it's very positive,

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Speaker 5: especially for existing homeowners. Right now, I was looking compared

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Speaker 5: to last year, same time last year, medium sales price

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Speaker 5: is now at three hundred and ten thousand dollars. Now

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Speaker 5: this is for Hamilton, Butler, Claremont, and Warren counties, which

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Speaker 5: is the only four that I looked at. But it's

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Speaker 5: now at three hundred and ten thousand dollars, which is

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Speaker 5: up five percent from last year at this time. So

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Speaker 5: prices continue, I mean, people, the price of homes continue

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Speaker 5: to increase on an ongoing basis, you know. And what's funny, Mike,

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Speaker 5: is that you know, we've got there's a lot of

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Speaker 5: people sitting on the sidelines right wait for interest rates

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Speaker 5: to drop as they do that, though, the prices of

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Speaker 5: homes increase, so you know, the the net net is

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Speaker 5: probably at least a zero in terms of, you know,

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Speaker 5: if they're gonna wait for interest rates to drop, prices

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Speaker 5: keep going up at the same time. The issue is

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Speaker 5: is get in now, jump in now, be there you

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01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 5: can always refinance or something like that or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'm sorry, go ahead, I cut you off.

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Speaker 5: No, No, that's okay. And and home sales have increased

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01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 5: are up three point five percent, so the price of

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Speaker 5: a home's up. Five home sales are up three point

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01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:53,799
Speaker 5: five percent, which again defies some of the national numbers

1347
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Speaker 5: that you're going to be seeing where where you know

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Speaker 5: they're seeing home sales drop pretty significantly. We're seeing an

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01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:04,799
Speaker 5: increase of three point five bucking. Oh yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this question. I mean, and I

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01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 1: ask you this every time we talk. Based upon what

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01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:11,280
Speaker 1: you're saying and getting close to the end of the year.

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01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 1: Buyer's market, seller's market? Do you buy or sell or

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Speaker 1: stand pat.

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Speaker 5: I would say, I would say it's it's still a

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01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 5: seller's market, but not like it used to be earlier

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Speaker 5: this year, Okay, it's not as we're not seeing the

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01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 5: over people are we're offering a lot over contract price

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01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:37,599
Speaker 5: or over sale price, that kind of stuff. A lot

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Speaker 5: of people were over sale price, are over asking price,

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Speaker 5: that kind of thing. We're not seeing that as much anymore,

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01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 5: but it's still there in Cincinnati. Again, not nationally, but

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Speaker 5: in Cincinnati, it's still there. I think it is.

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Speaker 1: Got you now, listen. I've been wanting to ask you

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Speaker 1: this question for a couple of weeks. Here. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot of talk coming from the Trump administration, not so

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Speaker 1: much as they're used to be, and not only a

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Speaker 1: Trump administration but other places about a fifty year mortgage

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01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 1: home mortgage. You know, Greg, I saw that and thought,

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Speaker 1: I don't know anything about it, but that kind of

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Speaker 1: sounds crazy to me. I mean, who the hell's gonna

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Speaker 1: want to get that fifty years tied around your neck?

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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on?

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Speaker 2: That?

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Speaker 1: Is it? And again it all comes down to affordability,

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01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:24,680
Speaker 1: that's the deal. But I don't know what do you.

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Speaker 5: Make I totally agree with you. I think that's not.

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Speaker 7: The way to go.

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Speaker 5: If I were when I'm representing buyers, I would never

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Speaker 5: even if it existed, I would never would never say

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Speaker 5: go with a fifty year I mean you think about that, Mike,

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Speaker 5: that is six hundred I know, payments, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 5: by the time the every average person is buying a

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01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 5: house today is forty years old. By the time by

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Speaker 5: the time they get to the end of the you know,

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Speaker 5: paying their house off, they're they're gonna be ninety, gonna

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Speaker 5: be ninety years old.

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Speaker 1: Well they'll be, they'll be they'll be out the program.

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Speaker 5: Point absolutely, you know. So you know, you know what

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Speaker 5: I would suggest is I really, I really like this

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01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:15,599
Speaker 5: idea of this, the portable mortgage instead of this fifty

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Speaker 5: year stuff. Never would recommend that, but the idea that

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Speaker 5: you could get a mortgage on your first home and

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Speaker 5: be able to transport that to another piece of property,

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Speaker 5: another home or whatever at the same interest. Really, I mean, Mike,

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Speaker 5: you and I are of the age where we're probably

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Speaker 5: sitting on a three percent three percent mortgage.

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Speaker 1: That's what mine was about five years.

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Speaker 5: Ago, I know. And the ability the ability to take

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01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 5: that same mortgage and move that to another house that's

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01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 5: going to generate some real interest. And I hope that,

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01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:52,719
Speaker 5: I hope we can see that through, but only time

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01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:53,280
Speaker 5: will tell.

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01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 1: Well, now that sounds like that's something relatively new Are

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01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 1: people taking advantage of that or has it been around

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01:14:59,040 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 1: for a while.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's not available right now. They're still trying to

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Speaker 5: get their arms around it, so it's not The portable

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01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 5: mortgage is not available at.

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01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 1: This current stage.

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Speaker 5: But that's in conversation, just like the fifty year mortgage.

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Speaker 7: Well, yeah, I wanted to.

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Speaker 1: Ask you this question too, you know, and we talk

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01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:19,719
Speaker 1: about this all the time too, but I think people

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01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 1: need to hear your advice on it. Okay, you want

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01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 1: to put your house, your condo up for sale. You

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01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 1: want to get the best return on your investment that

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01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:31,360
Speaker 1: you can. Where do you put your money? Where do

1419
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:34,800
Speaker 1: you put the improvements? What would be the best thing

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01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 1: to do so you can make more money on the sale?

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Speaker 5: Great question, Great question. I am Mike. I am big

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01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 5: on curb appeal, right, and I mean I talk return

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01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:48,759
Speaker 5: on investment. There's some investments in your homes.

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01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:50,599
Speaker 7: If you were to redo your.

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01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 5: Kitchen totally, totally remodel it, tear it up, put it

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01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 5: back together, that kind of stuff, tear out walls, there's

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01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 5: no return on investment there. The same thing with a

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01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 5: major death room thing. I'm huge on curb apeople, right,

1429
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 5: So I mean, for a new entry door, the return

1430
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 5: on investment there is like three hundred or two hundred

1431
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:15,880
Speaker 5: percent return on investment. Or even just painting the front door.

1432
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 5: They say, people form an opinion of your house in

1433
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:22,760
Speaker 5: the first six seconds, so as they're walking up there,

1434
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 5: they're looking at a freshly painted front door. Garage door

1435
01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 5: has one hundred and twenty percent return on investment, new

1436
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:36,120
Speaker 5: landscaping one hundred and twenty six. This is all curb

1437
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:39,599
Speaker 5: side stuff that you can do to your house where

1438
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 5: you're gonna get big returns on your money, you know.

1439
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 5: I mean, so it's like some of these things, some

1440
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:49,600
Speaker 5: of these things are just there's no ROI So be

1441
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 5: careful what you're gonna spend your money on, unless unless

1442
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 5: you're blessed to do it yourself, unless you've got that

1443
01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:58,679
Speaker 5: ability to do it yourself.

1444
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:02,680
Speaker 6: You mean you mean right, yes, exactly.

1445
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 1: I'm terrible at that stuff, Greg, That's why I.

1446
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 5: But some guy's exactly, a guy two doors down from

1447
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:16,759
Speaker 5: me redid his kitchen four pennies on the dollar because

1448
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 5: he did it himself. Now, it took him five months

1449
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:22,480
Speaker 5: to do that, but I mean, he did a fabulous

1450
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:26,479
Speaker 5: job on this thing. Now I've seen some remodels, homemade

1451
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 5: remodels where they're they're they're uh not done well sure,

1452
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:34,799
Speaker 5: let me just put it that way.

1453
01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:37,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what you're doing. If you're doing something,

1454
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:39,599
Speaker 1: that's why I stay away from it.

1455
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 5: Hey, exactly, you gotta you gotta know what you're good at.

1456
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:46,559
Speaker 5: Obviously you're you're good at being an attorney, and you're

1457
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 5: good at this talk show stuff. Thank you, stay with that.

1458
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 1: One, right, I think I will, Greg, I think I'll

1459
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 1: leave the the real estate to you. But I wanted

1460
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 1: to ask you this question. And it's kind of funny

1461
01:17:57,960 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 1: because there's a personal kind of thing to this too

1462
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 1: okay situation with the how a home value would be

1463
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:11,120
Speaker 1: affected on whether the whether the home or condo whatever

1464
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:13,679
Speaker 1: is on the flight path. Just to tell you, Greg,

1465
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 1: this is probably about thirty forty years ago. My sister

1466
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 1: is a psychologist PhD. She did her she did her

1467
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:26,519
Speaker 1: whole thesis on how that affects people psychologically because where

1468
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:29,680
Speaker 1: she lived at the time was over by the Westernols

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01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 1: Country Club, and man, I don't think it's that way now,

1470
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 1: but they were on a huge flight path back then.

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01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:39,559
Speaker 1: Is that something that enters into in a big way?

1472
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 1: I guess it would be somebody's thinking about whether they're

1473
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:44,599
Speaker 1: gonna sell, whether they're gonna buy or whatever.

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01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's still wonder if she did her thesis on that.

1475
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:52,400
Speaker 5: Because you're you guys are West side folks. Sure, you

1476
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 5: guys are used to that thing, that whole flight path

1477
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 5: to Greater Cincinnati Airport, that kind of thing. I mean,

1478
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 5: there's some areas, like in Del High if you're having

1479
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 5: an outdoor picnic or what. Yeah, in some areas, you know,

1480
01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 5: we're talking Mount Saint Joe, they fly right over Mount

1481
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:10,639
Speaker 5: Saint Joe for the most part. You know, if you're

1482
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:13,040
Speaker 5: outdoor on a picnic, it's like hold on while this

1483
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 5: jet flies over and then we can continue our conversation

1484
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 5: or whatever. I mean, it's just it's accepted kind of

1485
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:22,920
Speaker 5: on the west side of town, you know, especially Dell

1486
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 5: High that kind of stuff. And with increased traffic. I mean,

1487
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:29,680
Speaker 5: I was doing some home ork Mike, and it's like,

1488
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:32,840
Speaker 5: you know, now there's a Dahl Hub over there, there's

1489
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 5: an Amazon Hub, a lot of cargo freight traffic, you know,

1490
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:41,040
Speaker 5: overhead freight traffic is coming in there. Now they're doing

1491
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:45,680
Speaker 5: some noise abatement things from Greater Cincinnati Airport, that kind

1492
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 5: of stuff. To minimize that kind of thing, But it

1493
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:52,639
Speaker 5: definitely has an effect on especially if you're not used

1494
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:54,760
Speaker 5: to it, like you are being a west Side or

1495
01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:57,759
Speaker 5: if you're not used to that definitely has an effect

1496
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:01,880
Speaker 5: on home home prices, that's for sure. I think it does.

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01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 1: It's a lot better than it used to be. But

1498
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:08,639
Speaker 1: do you think the average buyer factors that in, because

1499
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:10,919
Speaker 1: it sure sounds like they should, But do.

1500
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:17,599
Speaker 5: They unless if you're not familiar with the West Side.

1501
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 5: That's why I always say, spend some time over there're

1502
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 5: not familiar with it. Some of them forget to do

1503
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:25,400
Speaker 5: that right, and it's like that's where it comes. You

1504
01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:27,920
Speaker 5: got to be a good realtor and and you know,

1505
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:31,719
Speaker 5: set expectations in terms of traffic that kind of stuff.

1506
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 5: But you know what's funny. I was thinking my father

1507
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:39,599
Speaker 5: in law, he was certainly a West Side guy, and

1508
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:42,840
Speaker 5: he was a retiree from ge aviation. He used to

1509
01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:45,120
Speaker 5: love to sit out in the backyard and watch the

1510
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:46,200
Speaker 5: airplanes go over.

1511
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 1: There are people like that, Greg, there are.

1512
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:53,200
Speaker 5: Typical west Side It's like pull up the garage door,

1513
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 5: sit outside your garage and watch traffic or watch watch

1514
01:20:58,320 --> 01:20:59,200
Speaker 5: the jets.

1515
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:02,120
Speaker 1: Fly over you and I have a mutual friend who

1516
01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 1: loved to do that because it's free. You know, it

1517
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 1: doesn't have to pay anything.

1518
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know who you're talking about.

1519
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 1: Different quirks for different people.

1520
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 5: I guess that cold ones that.

1521
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 1: Could factor into it. You never know, but you know what,

1522
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 1: there really are people like that. But I just wondered

1523
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 1: if people really think about that when they're buying, and

1524
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 1: like you said, over on the West Side, they should. Anyway, Hey,

1525
01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 1: we are out of time. Greg really appreciated and I

1526
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 1: hope we can call on you in the new year.

1527
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:41,040
Speaker 5: Hey, not a problem, thanks Mike, and bring in that

1528
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 5: Utai feeling.

1529
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 7: I am.

1530
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 1: I am every day I try.

1531
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:48,080
Speaker 5: All right, Broke appreciate it.

1532
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 1: Okay, bye bye. All right. That's Greg Stanley of Komy

1533
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:54,840
Speaker 1: and Shepherd. And that's a really interesting question that h

1534
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 1: that he put forward about the home sales. And I

1535
01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 1: remember my sister doing that and doctoral dissertation is a

1536
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 1: big deal, and man, she researched the hell out of it.

1537
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:07,599
Speaker 1: And on her street it was a street called mid

1538
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:09,960
Speaker 1: Forest over there kind of by where Western Midills Country

1539
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 1: Club is. I mean, those people were not happy about it,

1540
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 1: and some of them, not in a big way, but

1541
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:20,759
Speaker 1: in a relatively minor way affected them psychologically. So something

1542
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:23,520
Speaker 1: to think about when you are buying a home, especially,

1543
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 1: like Greg said on the West Side, Hey, we got

1544
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:28,960
Speaker 1: to take a break, but when we get back, we

1545
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:32,120
Speaker 1: are going to talk to none other. And it's a

1546
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 1: shame he's leaving the one and only Bill Sites. We're

1547
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:38,679
Speaker 1: going to talk to him about the Western Neils Viaduct.

1548
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:44,600
Speaker 1: Maybe you saw it once again. The project is getting postpone,

1549
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 1: not called off or anything like that. Bill Sites is

1550
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 1: the guy mainly for his efforts that we're even getting

1551
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 1: a new one. I just wanted to ask Bill about that.

1552
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:55,640
Speaker 1: We'll do that when we get back. Mike Allen and

1553
01:22:55,680 --> 01:23:00,679
Speaker 1: for Willie seven hundred WLW, I'm about that. That's kind

1554
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:04,840
Speaker 1: of my error usually if it's not before, I don't know,

1555
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:09,400
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty five. I struggle a bit at any rate. Seriously, folks,

1556
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:12,760
Speaker 1: if you are a West Sider, you know just how

1557
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:16,720
Speaker 1: important the Western Hills Viaduct is, and you also know

1558
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:20,320
Speaker 1: what an absolute mess it is. It has been declared

1559
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:23,760
Speaker 1: this is kind of a scary thing, declared functionally obsolete.

1560
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 1: Yet cars go over daily. Quite a few of them,

1561
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 1: thanks in large part to my next guest efforts. The

1562
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:34,760
Speaker 1: existing Western Hills Viaduct is going to be torn down.

1563
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:37,439
Speaker 1: They're going to get a new one that's going to

1564
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:39,679
Speaker 1: be built, But as I understand, I'm going to build

1565
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:42,559
Speaker 1: a new one and then tear down the old one. Well,

1566
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 1: we found out last week that, according to the Cincinnati

1567
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:50,400
Speaker 1: Inquired did a pretty comprehensive story on it. The subheadlines

1568
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:53,960
Speaker 1: are inflation has caused the new Western Hills Viaduct project

1569
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:58,200
Speaker 1: to shrink in scope and increase in cost. The new

1570
01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 1: design will have three lanes in each direction instead of

1571
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:04,720
Speaker 1: the four lanes and one walkway path for people that

1572
01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 1: it had before then. Well actually there were two before then.

1573
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:11,559
Speaker 1: The project's costs will exceed the previous estimate of three

1574
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 1: hundred and ninety eight million, though a new total has

1575
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:18,760
Speaker 1: not been announced. Bill Sites is the Ohio House member

1576
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:23,080
Speaker 1: from the thirtieth House district on the West Side. He's

1577
01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:25,639
Speaker 1: the guy that I mean this because I was watching

1578
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 1: the whole thing as it played out. He's the guy

1579
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:31,520
Speaker 1: that finally made it happen for the Western Hills Viaduct.

1580
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 1: Because you know, so many people in government, he got

1581
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 1: them all together. We got it done. Unfortunately, Bill will

1582
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:41,839
Speaker 1: be leaving the Ohio legislature soon due to term limits,

1583
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:44,839
Speaker 1: and I don't know that's a damn shame. But anyway,

1584
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:48,160
Speaker 1: here to talk about it is State Representative Bill Sites. Bill,

1585
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:50,240
Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us this afternoon.

1586
01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:53,680
Speaker 6: Hey Mike, I'm I'm delighted to be with you. I

1587
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 6: was actually turned out of office at the end of

1588
01:24:56,600 --> 01:25:00,559
Speaker 6: twenty twenty four. Oh to correct that. For the record, however,

1589
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 6: I want.

1590
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 1: To get you back in there for a year though.

1591
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:05,640
Speaker 6: Well you know how term limits are.

1592
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:07,759
Speaker 1: You got to say sorry about that, real fella.

1593
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a great fellow named Mike Odiosa that took

1594
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:11,759
Speaker 6: my place.

1595
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:14,000
Speaker 1: Good man, job, good man.

1596
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:17,400
Speaker 6: But let me let me walk you through this. Over

1597
01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:22,880
Speaker 6: a period of time from twenty sixteen through twenty twenty,

1598
01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:27,439
Speaker 6: we put all the building blocks in place to get

1599
01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:30,640
Speaker 6: this done with the estimated cost of four hundred to

1600
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:34,719
Speaker 6: four hundred and fifty million dollars. We allowed the county

1601
01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:37,920
Speaker 6: and the city to increase their license plate fee by

1602
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 6: five dollars each. The county and the city. We raised

1603
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 6: the gas tax that provides more money for infrastructure, and

1604
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 6: we also increased the percentage of that gas tax that

1605
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:51,920
Speaker 6: goes for the benefit of local governments like the county

1606
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:57,000
Speaker 6: and the city. We passed a law that gave the

1607
01:25:57,000 --> 01:26:01,240
Speaker 6: city the authority to seek vote approval for a TRANPT

1608
01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:04,960
Speaker 6: tax member. We raised the sales tax, cut the income tax,

1609
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:08,639
Speaker 6: and I insisted as part of that law that twenty

1610
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:13,480
Speaker 6: five percent of those proceeds must be used for infrastructure,

1611
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:19,160
Speaker 6: for infrastructure over of roads over which busses would travel.

1612
01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:21,799
Speaker 6: So that was the key to selling the thing, because

1613
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 6: you know how things are out here in Green Township.

1614
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:26,320
Speaker 6: I don't think too many people would have voted for

1615
01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 6: just a bus levee, but putting the infrastructure angle in

1616
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 6: their help. And then finally, after all that was put

1617
01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 6: in place, we had to change the law to allow

1618
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:39,679
Speaker 6: the city to sell the railroad that runs the Southern

1619
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:42,600
Speaker 6: Railroads that runs down to Chattanooga. And as part of

1620
01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:48,360
Speaker 6: that legislation, we insisted that every single dime that the

1621
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 6: city gets be spent to repair existing infrastructure. So with

1622
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:57,679
Speaker 6: all those building blocks building a little by little, we

1623
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:03,400
Speaker 6: put the whole funding thing in place. And then what happened, well,

1624
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:08,439
Speaker 6: Bide inflation, Oh yeah, and Biden inflation because all of

1625
01:27:08,439 --> 01:27:12,240
Speaker 6: the stuff I'm talking about was put into place before

1626
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:16,240
Speaker 6: that kicked in, and the enquire said they didn't know

1627
01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 6: what the new cost was. I believe Eric Beck, the

1628
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:21,479
Speaker 6: county engineer, told me a few months ago it's going

1629
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:25,719
Speaker 6: to be north of eight hundred million, no wow, instead

1630
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:28,160
Speaker 6: of instead of the four hundred and fifty million that

1631
01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:32,320
Speaker 6: we were looking at, because construction costs have skyrocketed, just

1632
01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:36,879
Speaker 6: like everything else as a result of the significant inflation

1633
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:39,679
Speaker 6: that has happened since the year twenty twenty.

1634
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:41,679
Speaker 7: And you all know why.

1635
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:44,600
Speaker 6: I mean, it's pretty simple. So they have had to

1636
01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:48,240
Speaker 6: scale the program back. They've scaled down the number of lanes,

1637
01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 6: they've scaled down the number of walkways, and you know,

1638
01:27:53,479 --> 01:27:55,880
Speaker 6: I think they're still scratching their head wondering where the

1639
01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 6: rest of the money's going to come from. But the

1640
01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:01,840
Speaker 6: but the trans attack money is in place, they can

1641
01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:06,320
Speaker 6: allocate twenty five percent of that money to fix infrastructure

1642
01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:09,840
Speaker 6: like the Western Hills viaducts. The railroad sale money can

1643
01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:14,960
Speaker 6: be used for repairing existing infrastructure like the Western Hills viaducts.

1644
01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:17,680
Speaker 6: So hopefully that will be the vehicle by which we

1645
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:21,639
Speaker 6: finally get this done. The completion gate Mike has been

1646
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:25,519
Speaker 6: pushed back to we all like to have all this. Yeah,

1647
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:27,640
Speaker 6: we had hoped to have all this done by the

1648
01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:30,880
Speaker 6: year twenty twenty nine. Well, now the latest I see

1649
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:33,120
Speaker 6: in the paper there that you quoted, I believe they

1650
01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 6: said twenty thirty two.

1651
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:37,280
Speaker 1: It was twenty thirty two. Yeah, you know what, let

1652
01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:39,439
Speaker 1: me ask you this bill real quick. You know you're

1653
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:41,000
Speaker 1: a west side or you probably hear it. I know,

1654
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:43,920
Speaker 1: I do. What I hear is Well, there they go again,

1655
01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 1: sticking it to the west side. If this was over

1656
01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:49,160
Speaker 1: Hyde Parker Mount, lookout, it'd be freaking done by now.

1657
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:52,559
Speaker 1: I mean, do you ascribe to that too? That's the feeling.

1658
01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 6: Well, okay, in fairness, it's tied up also with the

1659
01:28:58,240 --> 01:29:01,519
Speaker 6: construction of the new Prince Spence Bridge, which is another

1660
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:05,960
Speaker 6: big project that's been delayed through the room because the

1661
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:10,360
Speaker 6: approaches to the new brand Spence Bridge will actually start

1662
01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:14,479
Speaker 6: way back where the Western Hills Viaduct comes in. And

1663
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:18,040
Speaker 6: that's not surprising either, because anybody that goes down South

1664
01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:22,160
Speaker 6: seventy five now seems that the traffic often backs up

1665
01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:25,839
Speaker 6: well past the Western Hills Viaduct and in some cases

1666
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:30,439
Speaker 6: well past Opple Street. So so you know, the new

1667
01:29:30,479 --> 01:29:34,600
Speaker 6: approaches to the brand spence have to be coordinated. The

1668
01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:38,000
Speaker 6: construction of those have to be coordinated with the construction

1669
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:41,559
Speaker 6: of the viaduct because the two of them connect. As

1670
01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:43,519
Speaker 6: you well know, right, you can get off of sety

1671
01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:47,120
Speaker 6: five either north or south and come across the viaduct.

1672
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:51,439
Speaker 6: Although when you come southbound and you go under the viaduct,

1673
01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:53,280
Speaker 6: watch out for falling concrecte.

1674
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:56,880
Speaker 1: I'm telling you that's frightening, Bill, It really is. I mean,

1675
01:29:57,280 --> 01:30:00,360
Speaker 1: it's got those nets up there, I think still, I mean,

1676
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:02,559
Speaker 1: I don't know. I trust the engineers and the other

1677
01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:05,640
Speaker 1: structural engineers, those people that, yeah, they wouldn't put us

1678
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:07,080
Speaker 1: on there if they didn't think it was safe. But

1679
01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:09,720
Speaker 1: it still is. It's kind of scary to look at it.

1680
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:12,000
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. Do you think maybe in

1681
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:14,760
Speaker 1: about three years from now, I'll be sitting here with

1682
01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:18,040
Speaker 1: another politician saying, Hey, what happened. This is supposed to

1683
01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:20,760
Speaker 1: be done in twenty twenty three.

1684
01:30:22,120 --> 01:30:25,799
Speaker 6: Well, like I said, they've already pushed the estimated completion

1685
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:29,120
Speaker 6: date back to twenty thirty two, much of my chagrin.

1686
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:34,479
Speaker 6: The cost has gone up almost double. And you know,

1687
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:36,640
Speaker 6: I'm not in office anymore, so I guess it's going

1688
01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:41,000
Speaker 6: to be somebody else's problem. But it's a significant you know,

1689
01:30:41,080 --> 01:30:44,920
Speaker 6: It's the thing was starting construction in nineteen twenty nine.

1690
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:47,040
Speaker 1: I know it will be one hundred.

1691
01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:49,880
Speaker 6: Years old in twenty twenty nine or twenty thirty. And

1692
01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:54,280
Speaker 6: something that significant, that carries that much traffic, it seems

1693
01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:57,720
Speaker 6: to me you're really pushing the envelope, saying let's leave

1694
01:30:57,760 --> 01:30:59,840
Speaker 6: it up for a few more years after it's been

1695
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:01,000
Speaker 6: up for one hundred years.

1696
01:31:01,280 --> 01:31:04,160
Speaker 1: You know, you would think so, Bill, My brothers might

1697
01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:07,160
Speaker 1: have told you my grandfather was a civil engineer and

1698
01:31:07,439 --> 01:31:10,559
Speaker 1: he actually participated in the work on it, And you're right,

1699
01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:14,320
Speaker 1: it goes that all the way that far back. I

1700
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:16,439
Speaker 1: don't know it just again it just seems like one

1701
01:31:16,439 --> 01:31:19,680
Speaker 1: thing or the other, and it's just so so necessary.

1702
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:22,760
Speaker 1: But again, you know, inflation, what are you going to do?

1703
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:27,760
Speaker 6: You know, well, stop inflation is what you're going to do.

1704
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:31,680
Speaker 6: And that means rein in federal government spending that went

1705
01:31:31,720 --> 01:31:35,920
Speaker 6: out of control during and after COVID, and when there's

1706
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:39,160
Speaker 6: too much money chasing too few goods, that's called the

1707
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:42,360
Speaker 6: recipe for inflation, and that's exactly what we saw. You

1708
01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:44,800
Speaker 6: see it in healthy prices. You see it all over them.

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01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:46,840
Speaker 6: You see it in the price of beef and the

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01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:50,080
Speaker 6: prices they pay at the grocery store. I mean, inflation

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01:31:50,240 --> 01:31:53,160
Speaker 6: has really knocked the socks off a whole lot of

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Speaker 6: people here in the last couple of years.

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Speaker 1: It is, it has well, you know what, I tried

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Speaker 1: to give you an extra year bill, and I know

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01:31:59,240 --> 01:32:02,800
Speaker 1: Mike Odeosa is doing a great job, But how are

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01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:05,280
Speaker 1: you liking it? Are you still practicing law?

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01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:08,719
Speaker 6: I think right, Oh yeah, I'm practicing law. I'm also

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01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:11,080
Speaker 6: Governor to Wine appointed me to the State Board of

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Speaker 6: Tax Appeals, which is a three person board that hears

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01:32:15,160 --> 01:32:17,839
Speaker 6: all appeals when people aren't happy with what the border

1721
01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:21,679
Speaker 6: revision did or aren't happy what the County Budget Commission did.

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01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:26,880
Speaker 6: We hear all those appeals, three people. And I'm doing

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01:32:26,920 --> 01:32:30,720
Speaker 6: a little bit of lobbying through our Dinsmore Shal affiliates

1724
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:33,479
Speaker 6: lobbying affiliates. So I'm doing a little bit of that.

1725
01:32:34,200 --> 01:32:36,840
Speaker 6: And of course the governor had also appointed me this

1726
01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:41,160
Speaker 6: summer to co chair the Governor's Property Tax Working Group,

1727
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:44,559
Speaker 6: which was a select group that he put together and

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01:32:44,640 --> 01:32:46,960
Speaker 6: I co chaired it with Pat T. Berry, a former

1729
01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:50,599
Speaker 6: congressman from the Columbus area who down runs the business

1730
01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:53,880
Speaker 6: Roundtable in Ohile. And so that was an intense period

1731
01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:57,080
Speaker 6: of two months of weekly meetings trying to get to

1732
01:32:57,120 --> 01:33:00,240
Speaker 6: the bottom of that mess. And you know, property taxes, God,

1733
01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:04,960
Speaker 6: everybody's patties in and uproar too. So we came up

1734
01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:08,679
Speaker 6: with twenty solid recommendations. Some of them have been adopted

1735
01:33:08,720 --> 01:33:12,759
Speaker 6: by the legislature. Some of them they sort of cherry picked,

1736
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:15,840
Speaker 6: and I wasn't too happy about that, but sure, nonetheless

1737
01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:18,840
Speaker 6: they did some of it. So we were feeling like

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01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:21,759
Speaker 6: our work was not in vain. But I'm keeping plenty busy,

1739
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:25,760
Speaker 6: good And I guess you got to keep busy when

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01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:27,360
Speaker 6: you're as old as me, because you don't want to

1741
01:33:27,439 --> 01:33:29,120
Speaker 6: just sit around and do nothing.

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Speaker 1: I'm right behind you, brother, I'm right behind you. You

1743
01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:33,960
Speaker 1: know one thing I want to tell you anything. I

1744
01:33:34,040 --> 01:33:37,479
Speaker 1: told you this before, but it bears repeating. You've done

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01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:39,920
Speaker 1: so many things in the legislature, both in the House

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01:33:40,040 --> 01:33:42,840
Speaker 1: and the State Senate. I think one of your major

1747
01:33:42,880 --> 01:33:46,439
Speaker 1: things was, and it's something that I'm retired now, thank goodness,

1748
01:33:47,120 --> 01:33:50,759
Speaker 1: worked with on a daily basis, is criminal justice reform,

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01:33:51,240 --> 01:33:54,439
Speaker 1: not just reform. Just for the sake of reforming things,

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01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:59,599
Speaker 1: but some really good ideas and changes in our criminal

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01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:02,240
Speaker 1: justice system. And I know a lot of people in

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01:34:02,280 --> 01:34:04,840
Speaker 1: the system, most people in the system sure appreciate that.

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Speaker 6: Bill, Well, I appreciate your comments because you're right, that

1754
01:34:09,200 --> 01:34:12,519
Speaker 6: was the principal focus of mine. And it's not soft

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01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:15,599
Speaker 6: on crime. It's basically what I was doing was making

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01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:19,639
Speaker 6: it easier for convicted criminals who have served their time

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01:34:20,080 --> 01:34:22,560
Speaker 6: to be able to find housing and a job, to

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01:34:22,680 --> 01:34:25,720
Speaker 6: give them a second chance. And we passed some very

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01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:30,880
Speaker 6: significant legislation on both of those areas. And we also

1760
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:34,320
Speaker 6: passed some very significant legislation that widens the use of

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01:34:34,439 --> 01:34:38,480
Speaker 6: DNA and helps people who are wrongfully convicted be exonerated

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01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:42,800
Speaker 6: when the DNA does not prove their guilt. So those

1763
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:45,640
Speaker 6: are all good things. We're not talking about, you know,

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01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:49,439
Speaker 6: no bail or any of that stuff. Absolutely not, I know.

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01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:53,280
Speaker 6: We're talking about, you know, good, good, solid criminal justice

1766
01:34:53,320 --> 01:34:57,920
Speaker 6: reforms that protect the innocence while punishing the guilty. And

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01:34:57,960 --> 01:34:59,679
Speaker 6: that's what the system should all be about.

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01:34:59,760 --> 01:35:02,240
Speaker 1: Right, You're exactly right, And people on the on the

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01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:06,479
Speaker 1: law enforcement prosecution end realized that too, Bill, Like you

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01:35:06,520 --> 01:35:08,439
Speaker 1: said it wasn't you know, get out of jail free

1771
01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:11,360
Speaker 1: and that kind of stuff. It was things that are needed,

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01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:14,840
Speaker 1: you know. So anyway, as I know a lot of

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01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:17,960
Speaker 1: people appreciate that. Bill, Hey, I appreciate you taking out

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01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:20,479
Speaker 1: time for us, and hope we can call.

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01:35:20,320 --> 01:35:25,639
Speaker 6: On you again anytime, anytime. Mike, we've been friends for many,

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01:35:25,680 --> 01:35:27,679
Speaker 6: many years. Oh yeah, I hope you had a good

1777
01:35:27,680 --> 01:35:30,760
Speaker 6: Thanksgiving and all your listeners did too. And and how

1778
01:35:30,760 --> 01:35:31,559
Speaker 6: about them Banks?

1779
01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:33,519
Speaker 1: How about that night?

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Speaker 2: There you go?

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Speaker 7: Man?

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01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:35,479
Speaker 1: Thank you?

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01:35:36,680 --> 01:35:39,080
Speaker 6: All righty, okay, bye bye?

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01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:39,720
Speaker 7: See it? Bill?

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Oh that's a good man right there, and

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01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:47,320
Speaker 1: a great public servant. I can't believe I gave him

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01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:49,760
Speaker 1: an extra year. The person that came in for Bill,

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01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:52,120
Speaker 1: and I should have known better on that. Mike Odioso,

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01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:56,559
Speaker 1: good saint savior guy. Mike taught out there. Maybe he

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01:35:56,600 --> 01:35:59,760
Speaker 1: still does. I'm not sure. So we lost a good one,

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01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:02,479
Speaker 1: but we got a good one too. Hey, we got

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01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:04,280
Speaker 1: to take a break. We'll be back for a few

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01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:06,519
Speaker 1: minutes after that, and then we'll be out of here.

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01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:12,920
Speaker 1: Mike Allen in for Willie's seven hundred wlw rolling Stones. Hey, listen,

1795
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:14,960
Speaker 1: we just have a few minutes left here before I

1796
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:17,040
Speaker 1: got to get out of here, but I will be

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01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:22,320
Speaker 1: back tomorrow for Saturday midday, probably be pretty close to

1798
01:36:22,479 --> 01:36:26,240
Speaker 1: exclusively politics. I think that's what people want to hear

1799
01:36:26,280 --> 01:36:28,680
Speaker 1: out of that show. And I'll tell you what you know.

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01:36:28,720 --> 01:36:30,840
Speaker 1: When I first started doing that show, I guess it's

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01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:34,320
Speaker 1: about I don't know, seven eight years ago. Honestly, in

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01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:38,080
Speaker 1: thinking about preparing the show, you know, I'd have to think, well,

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01:36:38,120 --> 01:36:39,920
Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about this or what can I

1804
01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:44,760
Speaker 1: talk about? Now it has changed to where I have

1805
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:48,000
Speaker 1: to do it by process of elimination because there is

1806
01:36:48,200 --> 01:36:51,640
Speaker 1: so much going on, not a whole lot of it

1807
01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:55,320
Speaker 1: being good too. It's a funny thing though, and I

1808
01:36:55,360 --> 01:36:57,200
Speaker 1: know I say this all the time people get tired

1809
01:36:57,240 --> 01:37:00,360
Speaker 1: of hearing it. But you know, when some of these

1810
01:37:00,360 --> 01:37:02,960
Speaker 1: things happen, like what we were talking about before with

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01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:07,280
Speaker 1: respect to that, just the horrible, horrible death of well

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01:37:07,360 --> 01:37:11,080
Speaker 1: one so far, hopefully the other one survives. Those two

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01:37:11,120 --> 01:37:15,320
Speaker 1: West Virginia National Guard people. One was an airman, the

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01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:18,639
Speaker 1: other was a National Guard member, all of twenty years old.

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01:37:19,400 --> 01:37:22,720
Speaker 1: All of twenty years old. They're just gunned down in

1816
01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:26,960
Speaker 1: the street by someone who was in this country and

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01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:30,280
Speaker 1: had no right to be in there. I mean, how

1818
01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:35,839
Speaker 1: does that stuff happen? Why does it happen? And why

1819
01:37:36,200 --> 01:37:39,479
Speaker 1: does the other side And this is the thing that

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01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:42,479
Speaker 1: baffles me. Maybe someday I'll figure it out. I guess

1821
01:37:42,520 --> 01:37:45,519
Speaker 1: it's just a I hate to say it, the way

1822
01:37:45,560 --> 01:37:48,360
Speaker 1: things are just going to hell in a handbasket for

1823
01:37:48,520 --> 01:37:52,599
Speaker 1: certain members of our society. But why is it that

1824
01:37:52,960 --> 01:37:56,640
Speaker 1: Democrats and those on the left and those in academia.

1825
01:37:57,280 --> 01:37:59,800
Speaker 1: And I'm not exaggerating, which I'm prone to do on

1826
01:37:59,840 --> 01:38:05,360
Speaker 1: it ocasion, but why are they advocating for people who

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01:38:05,439 --> 01:38:11,720
Speaker 1: are not citizens of this country and really taking the

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01:38:11,800 --> 01:38:16,920
Speaker 1: side against people that are. I don't understand that. I don't.

1829
01:38:17,320 --> 01:38:19,200
Speaker 1: And you know what, you want to come to this

1830
01:38:19,320 --> 01:38:24,160
Speaker 1: country because you know you're suffering prejudice in your own country. Whatever,

1831
01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:27,599
Speaker 1: do it, man, that's what we're here for. But do

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01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:31,200
Speaker 1: it right, Do it right. I have talked to so

1833
01:38:31,280 --> 01:38:34,320
Speaker 1: many people that have done it right. You know, they

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01:38:34,720 --> 01:38:38,080
Speaker 1: do the courses, they take the tests, and they are

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01:38:38,439 --> 01:38:42,160
Speaker 1: then naturalized citizens. And I don't have I ever said

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01:38:42,160 --> 01:38:45,400
Speaker 1: this before. I think I did, But you know, I'm

1837
01:38:45,439 --> 01:38:47,120
Speaker 1: an attorney and I was out a federal court. This

1838
01:38:47,240 --> 01:38:50,240
Speaker 1: is five or six years ago. And my case wasn't

1839
01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:51,680
Speaker 1: coming up for a while, so I just ducked in

1840
01:38:51,720 --> 01:38:55,080
Speaker 1: a courtroom. They had one of those ceremonies there, the

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01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:59,200
Speaker 1: naturalization ceremony. Were the people who did take the time

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01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:02,559
Speaker 1: and the effort to do it right were sworn in

1843
01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:06,479
Speaker 1: as American citizens. And you would not believe the pride

1844
01:39:07,640 --> 01:39:10,320
Speaker 1: in those people and what they did. And you know,

1845
01:39:10,360 --> 01:39:14,160
Speaker 1: here we let twenty million in that had no business

1846
01:39:14,160 --> 01:39:17,120
Speaker 1: coming in. But anyway, I'll get off of that high

1847
01:39:17,120 --> 01:39:20,000
Speaker 1: horse for now. I'll probably get back on it tomorrow morning.

1848
01:39:20,080 --> 01:39:22,360
Speaker 1: But it's the way it goes. Hey, I am out

1849
01:39:22,360 --> 01:39:25,200
Speaker 1: of here. I really appreciate Willy giving me the chance

1850
01:39:25,240 --> 01:39:27,679
Speaker 1: to sit in for him. It's kind of a different

1851
01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:30,640
Speaker 1: a different time of day, but it's still fun doing it,

1852
01:39:30,680 --> 01:39:35,599
Speaker 1: and I really appreciate Willy giving me the opportunity. Mike

1853
01:39:35,640 --> 01:39:38,120
Speaker 1: Allen seven hundred WLW.

1854
01:39:38,439 --> 01:39:46,160
Speaker 2: News Traffic and Weather News Radio seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati.

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01:39:46,520 --> 01:39:50,120
Speaker 9: Waiting in some lines on roads and also at check

1856
01:39:50,160 --> 01:39:53,799
Speaker 9: out registers with the three o'clock report. I'm Jack Crumbley

1857
01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:54,679
Speaker 9: breaking now.

1858
01:39:54,800 --> 01:39:56,479
Speaker 1: Please keep your keys with you.

1859
01:39:56,760 --> 01:39:59,559
Speaker 9: Lieutenant Paul Nabor with the Hamilton County Sheriff's Office trying

1860
01:39:59,560 --> 01:40:02,599
Speaker 9: to make sure thousands of Black Friday shoppers are safe

1861
01:40:02,600 --> 01:40:05,360
Speaker 9: on this big sales day. The mall in Kenwood is

1862
01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:07,439
Speaker 9: one of the busiest spots in Hamilton County.

1863
01:40:07,479 --> 01:40:11,400
Speaker 10: We've increased our patrols withinside the Town inside the Town Center,

1864
01:40:12,320 --> 01:40:15,280
Speaker 10: multiple different ausers are going to be within there and

1865
01:40:16,240 --> 01:40:18,640
Speaker 10: to hand on any kind of calls for service withinside

1866
01:40:18,640 --> 01:40:19,920
Speaker 10: the mall, and.

1867
01:40:19,840 --> 01:40:22,160
Speaker 9: That also means streets and highways are busy with people

1868
01:40:22,200 --> 01:40:24,840
Speaker 9: trying to drive to the shopping areas looking to buy.

1869
01:40:24,960 --> 01:40:28,800
Speaker 9: Tracy Schwegmann with Sycamore Township Trustees, we ask folks.

1870
01:40:28,520 --> 01:40:31,719
Speaker 1: To pack their patients. We encourage them to really follow

1871
01:40:31,760 --> 01:40:33,880
Speaker 1: the signage that's going to be in and around the

1872
01:40:33,880 --> 01:40:38,120
Speaker 1: interstates on the main arteries. Sometimes that entrance that you're

1873
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:40,679
Speaker 1: used to typically going into may not be the fastest

1874
01:40:40,720 --> 01:40:42,800
Speaker 1: access to the mall. So if it's telling you to

1875
01:40:42,840 --> 01:40:45,920
Speaker 1: go left when you're used to going right, take the left.

1876
01:40:47,800 --> 01:40:50,920
Speaker 4: Let's check the latest traffic and weather together.

1877
01:40:51,680 --> 01:40:55,240
Speaker 11: From the UC Health Traffic Center. You see Health's Epilepsy

1878
01:40:55,320 --> 01:40:58,040
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1879
01:40:58,080 --> 01:41:02,360
Speaker 11: with epilepsy. With access to clinical trials from leading neurologists,

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01:41:02,479 --> 01:41:06,320
Speaker 11: expect more at u Sehealth dot com. On northbound seventy

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01:41:06,400 --> 01:41:09,439
Speaker 11: five before town, they center lane blocked from an accident.

1882
01:41:09,720 --> 01:41:12,559
Speaker 11: Traffic backed up from Norwood Elateral. Not too bad though,

1883
01:41:12,600 --> 01:41:15,559
Speaker 11: minute or two worth of delays at the moment. Another

1884
01:41:15,640 --> 01:41:19,400
Speaker 11: accident on the Red Bank Expressway that's over at Hetzel Street.

1885
01:41:19,680 --> 01:41:23,240
Speaker 11: Northbound seventy one seventy five at Donaldson Rode an accident

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01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:26,360
Speaker 11: off on the right shoulder. Plenty of slow spots around

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01:41:26,360 --> 01:41:30,360
Speaker 11: town as well, including southbound seventy one traffic. There's stop

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01:41:30,400 --> 01:41:32,960
Speaker 11: and go between Fifert and Montgomery Road up to a

1889
01:41:33,000 --> 01:41:36,200
Speaker 11: ten minute delay. I met Ezelak on news radio seven

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Speaker 11: hundred WLUBLE.

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01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:40,920
Speaker 9: Also Montgomery Road approaching seventy one, both directions backing up again.

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01:41:40,960 --> 01:41:42,920
Speaker 4: That is Kenwood Mall traffic now.

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01:41:43,040 --> 01:41:45,759
Speaker 12: The latest forecast from the No Fear Dentist Weather Center

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01:41:46,120 --> 01:41:49,120
Speaker 12: Advanced dentistry the thought of the dentist making you a

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01:41:53,479 --> 01:41:56,080
Speaker 13: Cold and sunny today across the tri State, but a

1897
01:41:56,120 --> 01:41:59,559
Speaker 13: winter storm system is moving in Saturday morning. Snow starts

1898
01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:03,120
Speaker 13: around a break for our western counties Across Southeast Indiana.

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01:42:03,400 --> 01:42:06,040
Speaker 13: Good see some light accumulation, and then we'll see a

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01:42:06,160 --> 01:42:09,680
Speaker 13: switch to arrange snow mix as temperature rise after the

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01:42:09,720 --> 01:42:12,960
Speaker 13: noon hour. A trace to a few inches certainly possible

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01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:16,679
Speaker 13: where we have the early onset of snow. Meanwhile, cold

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01:42:16,800 --> 01:42:19,800
Speaker 13: and windy into your Sunday from your severe what the station.

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01:42:20,080 --> 01:42:23,200
Speaker 13: I'm nine first one and meteorologist Kjjcobs's ready the seven

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01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:24,880
Speaker 13: hundred WOW.

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01:42:24,680 --> 01:42:26,960
Speaker 9: Radar show sunny skies in the tri State thirty four

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01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:29,400
Speaker 9: degrees right now. News is a service of Low T

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01:42:29,640 --> 01:42:33,080
Speaker 9: Center and a Doren Window Company. One of the two

1909
01:42:33,160 --> 01:42:35,800
Speaker 9: National Guard members shot near the White House Wednesday has

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01:42:35,880 --> 01:42:39,639
Speaker 9: now died. The suspect now facing a first degree murder charge.

1911
01:42:39,640 --> 01:42:42,479
Speaker 9: He's been identified as an Afghan national brought to the

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Speaker 9: US in twenty twenty one with a special immigrant visa

1913
01:42:45,439 --> 01:42:48,599
Speaker 9: and then granted asylum this year. In April, the CIA

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01:42:48,800 --> 01:42:51,440
Speaker 9: saying that he worked with the US government in Afghanistan

1915
01:42:51,560 --> 01:42:55,000
Speaker 9: during the war. Here's former Acting under Secretary for Intelligence

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01:42:55,000 --> 01:42:57,200
Speaker 9: at the Department of Homeland Security, John Cohen.

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Speaker 14: Based on what we've learned thus far is that this

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Speaker 14: is an individual, like thousands of other Afghanistanis who worked

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