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Speaker 3: The guy who was at the bottom of the league,

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Speaker 3: It was just a real subport subpar effort last night.

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Speaker 3: Finally, how much fun was it to be starring in

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Speaker 4: I can't believe he won the Icy Hot Bowl.

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Speaker 8: You know what I told you guys in one of

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Speaker 4: They are Brown's Talk radio is on fire this week.

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Speaker 3: I just think that the owner is the Geppeto pulling

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Speaker 3: They owed Jerry Judy forty one million and he's at

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Speaker 3: We've been t bowed before, but we've been flacoed so

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Speaker 4: Two years in a row now, indeed with last.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, more on that from Guy junkerready forty

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Speaker 3: Good time is the wrong way to describe it, but

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Speaker 8: Listen, you gotta celebrate them, because like he is a

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Speaker 8: by When Donation. Kiss legend Ace Frehley died yesterday. And again,

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Speaker 8: you know I've said countless times my love for Kiss

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Speaker 8: I don't think he expected to live long and in

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Speaker 6: But Aces ended up being a lot more serious.

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Speaker 8: And this is also why as you know, you age

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Speaker 1: Tell me about your outfits. I mean, dude, did you

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Speaker 8: I had people from high school texting me last night

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Speaker 3: Remember that story about when Jim Carrey was doing the

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Speaker 1: That is Jean Simmons with Ace. He just could not.

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Speaker 3: Ace has passed on. No one can touch Ace's legacy.

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Speaker 6: He's so weird, but they're just like, what's up with

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Speaker 8: He just takes over and then they just know they

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Speaker 6: That you know, you got a little bit of lightning

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Speaker 3: One of my favorite memes was a R I P

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Speaker 3: He's just high, Okay, he was.

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Speaker 3: Space man, all right, Mike's coming in more on last

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Speaker 1: Cannot believe how good he was last night.

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Speaker 3: Ageless wonder, the Icy Hot Bowl, the Unk Bowl, whatever

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Speaker 3: Junker Rob King in the nine o'clock hour. Here more

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Speaker 12: Can you play the greatest song in the world.

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Speaker 1: Only if you can dig it?

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Speaker 3: Let us know your lunch requests on our socials phone

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Speaker 10: Talk back button on the iHeart radio app that one

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Speaker 12: From the Bridgeville Appliance Weather Center known for exceptional service.

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Speaker 3: Mike Pursudo stayed up and hosted the postgame call in

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Speaker 3: in our conference room and he's here for you. Now,

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Speaker 3: what else was I going to do with your sports DV?

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Speaker 3: it's an NFL Network classics. They're showing what is this

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Speaker 4: On the Yeah, Rose left far the Ravens against the Pack.

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Speaker 9: Sports is not brought to you by Bridgeville, Plis. It

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Speaker 1: They got burned on a couple of those last night.

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Speaker 9: And you know, the one on ones there, Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: I had a whole lot of problem with other decisions

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Speaker 9: Yeah, but the Bengals with a with a quarterback who

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Speaker 9: can activate those receivers are combustible. And that's that's not new.

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Speaker 9: It's been that way since Borrow when they got those guys.

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Speaker 9: That's why they went and got Ramsey. Yeah, and it

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Speaker 9: didn't work. I mean, does that mean it will never work?

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Speaker 9: I don't know, but last night it clearly did not.

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Speaker 9: But let me offensively playing, I mean, plant Bas you

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Speaker 9: keep running Ramsey out there and keep asking it would

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Speaker 9: be great.

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Speaker 5: Well, it wasn't just Ramsey too, I mean Slay got beat.

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Speaker 5: Joey Porter can't keep his hands off receivers.

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Speaker 9: Slay's the one that I've got my eye on. I

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Speaker 9: don't know week he's getting worse. I don't know that

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Speaker 9: you keep going going back to that one.

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Speaker 3: Actually when he got hurt that one time, I was

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Speaker 3: kind of like, I'd rather see echos Right now.

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Speaker 9: They take a lot of eccles and maybe you know,

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Speaker 9: they got to change something.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what at this point. It's not like

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Speaker 1: you're gonna go out and get all the new guys.

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Speaker 9: It's not like you're gonna change things dramatically relative to

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Speaker 9: the scheme.

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Speaker 3: But he's given big pat pete, you know what I mean. Like, uh,

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Speaker 3: feels like we've seen this fish before.

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Speaker 9: Here's here's what really bothered me by starting to thank

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Speaker 9: you about the first half and again, the defensive numbers

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Speaker 9: are ungodly awful.

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Speaker 1: What you said, Orlowsky tweeted, it's a difficulty. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: An hour ago, Orlosky said, the Steelers defensive tape is

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Speaker 3: is really bad because.

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Speaker 4: They're out of position and standing straight up.

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Speaker 9: They get the ball and score, and it looks like

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Speaker 9: the Bengals can't generate any kind of pass rush without

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Speaker 9: Trey Hendrickson and they can do whatever they want. They're

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Speaker 9: running the ball the Steelers second possession, it's second and

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Speaker 9: three from the Pittsburgh forty four, and that's when they

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Speaker 9: ran down of boarded flee flicker. Now maybe they thought

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Speaker 9: that was going to go for a huge splash play,

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Speaker 9: which you need. But Rogers called it off, at least

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Speaker 9: according to Ryan Fitzpatrick and Charlie Batch beliefs the same thing.

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Speaker 9: And everybody got the word that it was called off

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Speaker 9: except Jalen Warren. So you screw up a play there

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Speaker 9: when it's second and three. Now it's third and three

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Speaker 9: and he just overthrew John hus Smith. You end up punting.

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Speaker 9: Opportunity lost there. Third possession, they get to the Cincinnati eighteen,

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Speaker 9: fourth and one. Tomlins, SA's go for it, pedals down.

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Speaker 9: We're getting a touchdown. Great, I love it. They run

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Speaker 9: the friggin tush push and false start. Now you kick

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Speaker 9: a field goal, there's four points you potentially left on

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Speaker 9: the board.

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Speaker 3: When it's Washington doing the tushbush, shouldn't we call it

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Speaker 3: the avalanche?

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Speaker 1: You're right at the Mount Washington Avalanche.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Splash the interception where Rogers misplaced the ball that occurred

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Speaker 9: at the Bengals twenty four yard line. They're up ten

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Speaker 9: to seven at that point. How many points did they

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Speaker 9: leave on the field there?

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Speaker 3: I just think they got too cute, and those times

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Speaker 3: with you can't afford to do that in a game

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Speaker 3: like this.

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Speaker 9: The ball that Metcalf had stripped that occurred at the

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Speaker 9: Cincinnati thirty. They're down fourteen to ten there. How many

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Speaker 9: points did they leave on the field there? Yeah, we're

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Speaker 9: the points riding up through this conversation, right, and you

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Speaker 9: end up losing by two on a field goal with

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Speaker 9: seven seconds left.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of self inflicted wounds.

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Speaker 9: You know, there's different kind of games. Sometimes you know

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Speaker 9: your offense is up against it and the defense better

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Speaker 9: be buckled up, Mike. Sometimes you know the defense is

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Speaker 9: up against it and the offense better maximize opportunity. Last night,

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Speaker 9: you had a pretty good idea that it was going

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Speaker 9: to take points to win that game, and they didn't

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Speaker 9: get enough.

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Speaker 3: I want you to speak to this because I know

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Speaker 3: that you take exception to hearing this. Bengals wide receiver

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Speaker 3: Jamar Chase saying after the game, they knew exactly what

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Speaker 3: the Steelers plan to.

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Speaker 1: Do, exactly what we was expecting.

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Speaker 3: And then you go back to a year ago, Julian

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Speaker 3: Edelman saying, they did what they did though you know

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Speaker 3: exactly what they were going to do.

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Speaker 1: Every time, they still do what they do.

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Speaker 3: They still do the same gd bleep they did when

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Speaker 3: I was playing Tomlin the defense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean that'leman stuff doesn't apply anymore. Well, he

534
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Speaker 3: was on a podcast saying that, Yeah, like last night

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Speaker 3: or no last year.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean they they changed a lot of things.

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Speaker 9: What they did blitz way more.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 9: They had a bunch of guys in the nickel different,

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Speaker 9: Ramsey was playing different spots.

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Speaker 1: They they are more diverse.

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Speaker 9: I think they're too diverse for their own good because

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Speaker 9: they keep screwing it up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah they don't.

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Speaker 9: They're confusing themselves instead of the other quarterback. And particularly

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Speaker 9: you play a veteran, are you gonna confuse Joe Flacco?

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Speaker 1: Really? Is that the play?

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Speaker 3: You've got to be really dialed in to do the

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Speaker 3: stuff that they want to do there. And when Mike

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Speaker 3: tom was talking about like the opportunity to be historic,

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Speaker 3: I think that that's what he was envisioning. Oh yeah,

552
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Speaker 3: we have so many talented guys who know what they're doing.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna be able to dial up all sorts of

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Speaker 3: confusing looks pre snap and be able to drop back

555
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Speaker 3: into a completely different coverage. And what ended up happening

556
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Speaker 3: is he's got a bunch of guys who still have

557
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Speaker 3: not figured out how to.

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Speaker 1: Communicate with one another on how to do all of that.

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Speaker 3: Patrick Queen, who I thought took a huge step forward

560
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Speaker 3: two games ago, took a couple steps back last night. Yeah,

561
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Speaker 3: throwing his hands up in the air. What am I

562
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Speaker 3: supposed to do here? And Jamar Chase is just waving

563
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Speaker 3: and Flacco nobody's on me.

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Speaker 5: I think they overthink things too like too often in

565
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Speaker 5: this league. It can be real simple Jamar Chase on

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Speaker 5: a slant twenty three times. They're not over things thinking

567
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Speaker 5: it because they can't. He just got there ten days ago.

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Speaker 5: When you have too much time on your hand to

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Speaker 5: come up with all these games, at the end of

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Speaker 5: the day, you gotta win your matchup. It's it's just

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Speaker 5: making plays and executing playing with instinct.

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Speaker 3: I always referenced the Dick Lebow versus Tim Tebow game.

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Speaker 3: When you have that argument presented, you just overthought it.

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Speaker 3: There's any you can do? What are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: And the other thing, and we talked about this going

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Speaker 9: into the game, just being able. I think one of

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Speaker 9: the reasons they played as poorly as they did was

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Speaker 9: they were not able to match the energy and physicality

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Speaker 9: of Cincinnati. And that's as good as the defense looked,

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Speaker 9: particularly the last two weeks.

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Speaker 1: Man, they were flying around there, playing with speed and violence.

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Speaker 9: According to the coordinator Tarrell Austin, and that that was

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Speaker 9: obvious to us watching right and last night they were

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Speaker 9: playing reactionary, try to chase it down kind of defense.

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Speaker 3: They weren't. They were on their heels. They were not

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Speaker 3: the aggressors. We surprised her Big only played twenty eight snaps.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I haven't looked at this snap count. He only

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Speaker 1: played twenty eight seventy two defensive snaps.

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Speaker 9: I only noticed the three outside linebackers on the field

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Speaker 9: at the same time thing once, but it was hard

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Speaker 9: to tell. I didn't like the TV broadcast. Seemed more

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Speaker 9: interested in showing guys on the sideline or people in

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Speaker 9: the stands, or close up to the quarterback picking his

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Speaker 9: nose and actually giving you a view of the field.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, on those prime broadcasts you can choose

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Speaker 3: the alternate vantage point.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know what I can choose in here.

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Speaker 1: I'm lucky I can see the game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what you mean in our State of the Arts studio.

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Speaker 4: On the TVs that aren't actually TVs. Yeah, And I

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Speaker 9: You know, maybe this has come to Jesus' time because

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Speaker 9: these next three games are gonna leave the mark and

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Speaker 9: they have to be better.

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Speaker 1: They keep saying they're better. Time to be better.

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Speaker 12: Good morning, guys. I wish you wouldn't have moved me

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Speaker 3: All right, guy, let's go over the icy hot Bowl,

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Speaker 3: the unk Bull, the many names for these two venerable

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Speaker 1: Boy. It couldn't have been any different last night.

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Speaker 3: That was as good of a game as I've seen

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Speaker 3: Joe Flacco ever have.

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Speaker 12: Well, I mean, last year we were frustrated when he

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Speaker 12: come off the bench for Indianapolis and beat us. So

668
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 12: you know we've seen this movie before. I just I'm

669
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 12: the amazing thing to me and you guys were talking

670
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 12: earlier about how if you're an impartial observer in just

671
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 12: watching this in Boise, Idaho, what a great Thursday night

672
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 12: came it is. It was very entertaining, two old guys

673
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 12: in their forties that hardly ever happens, both of them

674
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 12: playing very well. I'm just amazed that the command that

675
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 12: he has and their playbook has to be fairly small

676
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 12: at this point. I know their first practice last week

677
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 12: when he stepped in there, they had thirty plays.

678
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 4: That was it.

679
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 12: And you know how comfortable he looks like he's been

680
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 12: there forever. That to me is obviously a big knock

681
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 12: on the Steelers defense. I'm shocked. I'm not shocked that

682
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 12: they lost this game. I told you guys last week,

683
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 12: I wasn't ready to anoint them division winners like a

684
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 12: lot of people were, just because everything had fallen so

685
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 12: perfectly the week before. Look, Thursday night, they kept pointing,

686
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 12: not Tomlin's road Thursday night record. Thursday night road teams

687
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 12: almost always lose, you want to make a bet against

688
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 12: the road team on Thursday nights in the league, go

689
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 12: he two teams have one on Thursday night on the road.

690
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 12: This year it's like two and five or whatever. So

691
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 12: I'm not totally surprised at that. You're facing a team

692
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 12: that's completely got their backs against the wall pretty much

693
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 12: their season is on the line. But that doesn't make

694
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 12: it any less frustrating. I mean, they could have been

695
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 12: so much in the driver's seat, not just with a

696
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 12: five to one record, but they'd have been four and

697
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 12: zero in the conference. They would have had a perfect

698
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 12: division record. And now and now you look at the schedule.

699
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 12: Now the Bengals had the Jets, the Bears in a

700
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 12: bye before they come here to Pittsburgh. You know, the

701
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 12: most likely by the time they come here, the Steelers

702
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 12: and Bengals would have the same record, will be tighter,

703
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 12: just a game apart. Instead of having a commanding lead

704
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 12: in the division, Bears and you know what, and on

705
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 12: any given week, look at the Jets, I'm disparaging them

706
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,479
Speaker 12: at oh in six and took a sixty yard field

707
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 12: goal for the Steelers to beat him. The biggest disappointment

708
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 12: I think in worry heading forward to me that the

709
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 12: run defense is not fixed. Uh, you know this was

710
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 12: not sa Kwon Barkley. This was not you know, uh,

711
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 12: Derrick Henry and Lamar Jackson running all over them. This

712
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 12: was a team that was averaging less than three yards

713
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 12: to carry all year. That absolutely stunk. And when you

714
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 12: want to talk about Flacco, look that they made it

715
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 12: easy on him by being able to run the ball

716
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 12: so much. If they stuffed that run early and force

717
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 12: him to pass, I don't think he has the success

718
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 12: that he did.

719
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 9: You know, it's funny, guy, Uh, with Flacco being so

720
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 9: new to the Cincinnati party. How many times have you

721
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 9: watched the game? This happens, particularly in the NFL, where

722
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 9: something will be working and then the teams go away

723
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 9: from it because they think the defense will adjust, and

724
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 9: you're thinking, just.

725
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 1: Keep ruther licking. It's working, it's working.

726
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 9: The Bigels didn't have any many other options, so it's like,

727
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 9: okay to chase things working.

728
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 4: Looks twenty three time that like.

729
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: That can happen.

730
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 10: Mike.

731
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 12: The perfect example, the Steelers were averaging over a six

732
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 12: yards aer run when they threw that deep pass that

733
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 12: got intercepted and turned the game around. Why don't you

734
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 12: just continue with what's working until they stop it instead

735
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 12: of getting greedy and cute the flea flicker. Some of

736
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 12: the stuff they did that allowed them to get back

737
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 12: in the game. The guys didn't talk about it, but

738
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 12: I thought one of the huge plays in the game

739
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 12: was the Zach Frazier penalty that negated because it really

740
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 12: didn't allow you know, sometimes you see a hold and

741
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 12: it's like, well, he's going to get tackled at the

742
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 12: guy didn't all of that. To me, I looked at

743
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 12: that and that had no bearing on that play. That

744
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 12: would have been a touchdown, and then they still got

745
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 12: a reprieve and that could have had a first down

746
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 12: on the toush push inside the red zone and they

747
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 12: screw that up and they end up with a field

748
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 12: goal there. And to me, that sequence is what sort

749
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 12: of changed the momentum. They lost that game in the

750
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 12: last five minutes of the second quarter, you know, I

751
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 12: mean that giving them ten easy points and within a

752
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,240
Speaker 12: five minute span when they hadn't scored a first quarter

753
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,439
Speaker 12: touchdown since Burrow got hurt. I mean the first half

754
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 12: touchdown since Burrow got hurts.

755
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 5: And to your point, guy going away with what works.

756
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 5: Not only was running the ball working, but it was

757
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 5: also keeping that potentially combustible offense for the Bengals on

758
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 5: the sidelines. And I felt like if they were able

759
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 5: to continue to do that, Flacco would have started.

760
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 4: Yawning, he'd have got tired. Maybe he's start cramping up.

761
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 5: I mean, when I sit down after on this show,

762
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 5: I got to get up and walk around.

763
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 4: My legs don't work like they used to.

764
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 5: And instead, you know, you give them life, You bring

765
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 5: the crowd back into it. The momentum totally shifted and

766
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 5: now you're chasing.

767
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 12: Them, and yet you still manage to come back and

768
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 12: somehow get a lead with less than three minutes to play. Well,

769
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 12: here's all you need to know about the game. The

770
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 12: best Steeler tackle all night was made by an offensive

771
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 12: lineman on his own quarterback. Oh brother, I had That

772
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,760
Speaker 12: defense has me worried and I don't want to hear about.

773
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 12: You know what they did the last couple of games

774
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 12: when they were playing Cleveland and such. I mean, you

775
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 12: know when they gave up over one hundred yards rushing

776
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 12: first three games of the year and then again last

777
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 12: night to not some of the best running teams in

778
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 12: the league. I don't see where they're much ahead of

779
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 12: where they were a year ago and trying to stop

780
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 12: the run.

781
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 3: I understand that they're complementary, but if the defensive line

782
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 3: returns to the form that we thought they were starting

783
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 3: to achieve, do you think that that will fix enough

784
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 3: of the problems in the secondary or is this a

785
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 3: Chuck Noll we have problem they are great?

786
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I.

787
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,919
Speaker 12: Think it's possible. I mean we've seen Look, we've seen

788
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 12: some sparkles here and the old saying that if you

789
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 12: see it, if it happens once or twice, it's in there.

790
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 12: So no, I think I think it does. Go on

791
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 12: tanem when you've got them. Those are two excellent wide

792
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 12: receivers too.

793
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 7: Uh.

794
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 12: The disappointing thing is you got a quarterback that's been

795
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 12: in that uniform for nine days and you don't you

796
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 12: don't make life uncomfortable for them. I mean, you know,

797
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 12: zero pressures from Alex Heismith and Nick Krbig, and you

798
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 12: know pretty much other than one play, one or two plays,

799
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 12: you know, you didn't get much out of Watt, you

800
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 12: didn't get much out of Hayward. But no, I think

801
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 12: I think it is a little bit fixable. If you

802
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 12: can get that pass rush a little bit better that

803
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 12: you know, they even think the personnel in their secondary,

804
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 12: but they're not young and they're not playing man to

805
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,439
Speaker 12: man on some of the best receivers in the league.

806
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 12: I don't why I took the halftime to kind of

807
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 12: change that. I thought it was a little bit better

808
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,479
Speaker 12: than the second half. Not a ton, but yeah, that's

809
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 12: that I think they I think, yeah, I do think

810
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 12: that they can improve that. It was a little better

811
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,240
Speaker 12: pass rush the secondary. We'll look a heck of a lot.

812
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: Better, all right.

813
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 3: I'd be remiss if I did not ask, what are

814
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 3: your thoughts on James Franklin Penn State. James Franklin, by

815
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 3: the way, is going to be on college game day tomorrow.

816
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 12: Uh oh fantastic. Well, you guys asked me about it

817
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 12: late last week, and I saw no way to do.

818
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 12: And I'm i as as an alum and a season

819
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 12: ticket older and against the move right now. I mean,

820
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 12: and I think they felt. I mean, they were chanting

821
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 12: fire Franklin at the Penn State hockey game last week,

822
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 12: and I think they started a bound to the pressure.

823
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 12: They got a seven hundred million million dollar stadium project

824
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 12: going on here's why if you want to the fire

825
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 12: him at the end of the season, at least by

826
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 12: then you have a better idea maybe whose replacement is.

827
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 12: They're losing recruits left and right. They're jumping off the Titanic.

828
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 12: They had the number one recruiting class in twenty twenty seven.

829
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 12: They've lost four four star recruits this week. The kids

830
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 12: from m Key Sport. The spell kid now says he's

831
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 12: not one hundred percent committee. He's reopened it. You know,

832
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 12: so they might take a giant step backward and let's

833
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 12: say they now you know Indiana immediately Panic went out

834
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 12: and signed Signetti, but to a long term deal. But

835
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 12: let's just say a guy like Signetti is who you want.

836
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 12: If they're in the college football playoff, you might not

837
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 12: hire a coach till the end of January. You're gonna

838
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 12: be so far behind the eight ball. Most of these

839
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 12: kids are going to commit elsewhere. The one the one

840
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,760
Speaker 12: thing that does change now. You know, college basketball coaches

841
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 12: used to come in and make a huge difference right

842
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 12: away just because of the size of the roster. You

843
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 12: get two really strong kids to commit, you can turn

844
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 12: a program run. Wouldn't do that with football at least

845
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 12: with nil transfer portal stuff like that. If they get

846
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,399
Speaker 12: a guy in that can it is a big name

847
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 12: and can get some people back, even if it's not

848
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 12: the same guys that are jumping ship. Now you might

849
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 12: get some people to come back. But I just don't

850
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 12: like the timing. To me, it was kind of a

851
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 12: panic move at the end of the year, if you

852
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,399
Speaker 12: want to evaluate it. And as I said last week,

853
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 12: he hasn't won the big game. It's right there in

854
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 12: black and white. But now he started losing games that

855
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 12: he should have won, which he always would win before,

856
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 12: so maybe the time had come. I just think it

857
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 12: should have been at the end of the season.

858
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 3: Guy, Johnker brought to you by Edgars Snyder and Associates

859
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 3: this morning on DV. Thanks guy, We'll talk to you

860
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 3: next week.

861
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: Girl, all right, we'll see Hey.

862
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 3: Rob King coming in for a power hour of Steeler Talking.

863
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 3: Want to let you know tonight I'm going to be

864
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 3: doing a set of Jerry Garcia Band music with Rubens

865
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 3: painted mandolin.

866
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: These guys are amazing.

867
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 3: I mean it really sounds like JGB stuff and I

868
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 3: get to play all the Melton Seals organ parts. So

869
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 3: if you're in the mood for getting a little Jerry

870
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 3: Garcia in your life. Tonight that I'll be going on

871
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 3: at the Thunderbird, and it's a double bill. In the

872
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 3: first set is Danny Rechtenwald's favorite band and if you've

873
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,959
Speaker 3: not seen them, man, is that a good time?

874
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 4: I just saw the Dead last night or I would.

875
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: Yes, the Steelers defense. Oh no, nothing.

876
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 3: To be grateful for with that performance. Unfortunately, I maybe

877
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 3: going to hell in a bucket. At least the ride sucks.

878
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: But these are Jerry Band songs, not the Dad.

879
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,439
Speaker 6: Sorry, what time does it start again?

880
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 3: It's an eight o'clock start tonight and there's there's tons

881
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 3: of music going on around Pittsburgh all weekend long.

882
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 1: So as always support local music.

883
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 3: Get out in the bat All right, Rob King coming

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Speaker 3: up here once again with the power hour of Steeler Talk.

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Speaker 3: I'm anxious to hear Kigger's perspective on all this.

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Speaker 1: That's next. D V.

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Speaker 14: DV presents The Small Dwaltz Saturday, November twenty second at

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Speaker 14: Mister Smalls Theater at eight pm. Randy Bauman's Ramble Band

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Speaker 14: celebrates the music of the band's iconic concert film The

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Speaker 14: Last Waltz, featuring Jobuschek, Clinton Clay, Molly Alphabet, Paul Luke,

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Speaker 14: Jen Wurtz, Phil Das, Liz Berlin, John Binley, Built Songs,

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Speaker 14: Rob James, Mike Minde, the full Ramble Horns, and more.

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Speaker 14: Don't miss this Thanksgiving tradition as Randy Bowman's Ramble Band

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Speaker 14: performs the full soundtrack of the band's film.

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Speaker 1: The Last Waltz.

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Speaker 14: A portion of the proceeds benefit the Greater Pittsburgh Community

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Speaker 14: Food Bank. Tickets for The Smalls Waltz available at the

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Speaker 14: Mister Small's Box office.

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Speaker 1: Or at dve dot com.

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Speaker 3: You may have noticed a new internet company knocking at

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Speaker 3: your door with claims like I'm not here to sell

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Speaker 3: you anything, or I wouldn't lie to you.

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Speaker 1: The truth is a