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Speaker 1: Wake up, John Jay and Rich.

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Speaker 2: You're what's crack ag and this is the big bulls do.

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Speaker 3: Snoopy deagle, double jigsel dank boom, what you don't do

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Speaker 3: j we're not talking about rich ten team, We're not

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Speaker 3: talking about last year.

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Speaker 2: It's the one and only.

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Speaker 4: Don't you know the glass lastly pikes your vegle double

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Speaker 4: jibble in your face to be and in the place.

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Speaker 5: To be And you're listening to John Jay.

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Speaker 1: And Rich one old fort seven, Kiss fab John J.

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Speaker 2: And Rich. You can text us. You text jj R.

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Speaker 2: You gotta put the jj R in front of it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why, but you gotta do the JJR.

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Speaker 2: Then whatever you want to say, and you text ninety

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Speaker 2: six eight ninety three. We'll get your text. We'll call

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Speaker 2: you back, we'll read your text.

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Speaker 1: John J. Rich's first time concert was Billie Eilish, who

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Speaker 1: was amazing. And to get to experience with my daughter

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Speaker 1: who listens to her since she was in middle school

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Speaker 1: and all the way through middle school, is a fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the tickets.

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Speaker 4: You're welcome, and I feel like going to a Billie

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Speaker 4: Eilish concert like that. Seriously, even if you're not a

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Speaker 4: fan is such an insane experiences because the way that

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Speaker 4: she just has the crowd like in the palm of

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Speaker 4: her hands is just beyond me. It is magical truth.

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Speaker 5: That means it cranked up in a stadium. It is

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Speaker 5: so cool too. Thats one of my favorite concerts the

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Speaker 5: last few years.

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Speaker 2: So Rich, last week you shared with us how you

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Speaker 2: fell running downhill, and then a couple days later you

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Speaker 2: were going to the lot Pup Family fast pulling some

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Speaker 2: equipment in a wagon.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and just hurt your knee like it's split, it snapped.

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Speaker 3: I've never experienced that before, but I mean, everybody knows

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Speaker 3: pulling a wagon is hard, dangerous, a hard hat. I

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Speaker 3: was told to change my origin story. Let my wife's

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Speaker 3: like jumping up on stage jumping around with a guitar.

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Speaker 3: That's a cool way to hurt yourself. Pulling a wagon

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Speaker 3: is not very rock.

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Speaker 6: Well, then we taped a podcasted talking stick Resort and

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Speaker 6: Rich was wheeled in in a wheelchair.

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Speaker 1: I could not walk at all.

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Speaker 5: Well, I could put a little bit of weight on it,

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Speaker 5: but it felt like my leg which is gonna collapse.

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Speaker 2: You know what, you know what you just made me

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Speaker 2: think of something the way you hurt yourself. Was not

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Speaker 2: like to say I was on stage rocking out the

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Speaker 2: band is a cool way, it would be cool? Yes,

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Speaker 2: Why do we have people call it with really cool ways?

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Speaker 2: You heard yourself like jumping down the helicopter trying to

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Speaker 2: save somebody from a flood and you're holding on the

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Speaker 2: helicopter and you your arm.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Now Rich.

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Speaker 5: Is pulling a wagon, a little blue wagon, by the way,

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Speaker 5: a little blue wagon anyway. So I've been doing PETE

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Speaker 5: every day because I'm really trying to avoid anything like

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Speaker 5: surgery or letting it get worse, right, And so what

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Speaker 5: I've heard is you take the you know, the steroid

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Speaker 5: to bring down the inflammation, but you're supposed to work

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Speaker 5: it through PETA and all that because that way you

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Speaker 5: can get it stronger. And they don't really want me

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Speaker 5: on crutches. They want me to learn how to walk.

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Speaker 5: So one of the things they suggested was acupuncture, which

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Speaker 5: I've done once a long time ago but don't really

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Speaker 5: remember it. But I went and did it yesterday. Acupuncture

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Speaker 5: and you lay down on the table and they start,

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Speaker 5: I think they feel around. They say they feel around

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Speaker 5: for like hotspots that might you know, be you know,

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Speaker 5: like like your body has a little finger. Yeah, and

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Speaker 5: then they stick the needles and they're pretty far and

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Speaker 5: it hurts in some spots. It hurts a lot, and

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Speaker 5: they put them, like in my lower back.

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Speaker 1: I thought it wasn't supposed to hurt at all.

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Speaker 3: I feel it.

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Speaker 1: You do feel it some. There might be a few places,

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Speaker 1: like they put a good Christopher give it to you.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's where you felt this sixty year.

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Speaker 5: Old Like if they put some stuff like you know

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Speaker 5: where you get a little more flesh, like in your

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Speaker 5: butt or something like that, you don't really feel. But

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Speaker 5: I felt it in my lower back and it aches

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Speaker 5: the whole time, and then my ankle and my shining

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Speaker 5: around my knees and all that.

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Speaker 3: So I asked them.

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Speaker 5: They think they put twenty twenty or so needles in,

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Speaker 5: But by the time it was done, I think it

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Speaker 5: helped me a lot. I think I feel maybe fifty percent.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Well, let me ask you, so, did it hurt

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Speaker 4: like it was causing pain or was it just achy

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Speaker 4: and sore? Okay, because there's a very, okay, very big

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Speaker 4: difference between something hurting.

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Speaker 5: And something it was saky. But you know, like those

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Speaker 5: eggs that like you can feel in your stomach that

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Speaker 5: kind of ache. Where as soon as the timer went off,

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Speaker 5: I'm like, whyn't in here removing the needles?

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Speaker 1: Why ant in here?

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Speaker 5: What if the electricity goes off and leaves me and

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Speaker 5: they leave me in this room, I might have to

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Speaker 5: pull out my own needles, Like I can't move. I

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Speaker 5: was freaking out once the clock because I was ready,

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Speaker 5: I was done, but it helped, Like, so I know

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Speaker 5: you're talking about doing it for yourself.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually am going today.

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Speaker 1: I made appointment.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I made an appointment to do acupuncture in my

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Speaker 4: shoulder because I have like the worst shoulder pain. I

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Speaker 4: dissocated it when I was in college and I was

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Speaker 4: told that I tore my labrum. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I never want to know, like an MRI or don't

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Speaker 1: do that judging parabrum in my shoulder as a part judging.

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Speaker 4: And so I was looking up things that would help

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Speaker 4: alleviate the pain. And one of the things I discovered

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Speaker 4: was that acupuncture could really hurt or help. But I

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Speaker 4: looked it up and hurt, and it said it doesn't hurt,

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Speaker 4: it aches. That's why when you said it hurts, I

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Speaker 4: was like, what are you talking about.

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Speaker 1: Is the same.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you guys, I'm sure you guys read the article

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Speaker 2: about me in the New York Post.

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Speaker 3: Yes, is it out here.

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Speaker 2: I am very much a biohacker. I don't know stuff

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Speaker 2: about you know, healing and whatnot. And I have done

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Speaker 2: acupuncture many times many Now there is a difference, though,

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Speaker 2: Did you get acupuncture or did you get dry needling?

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Speaker 1: Did they hook up any electricity to them?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you got acupuncture, okay, because I know there's

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Speaker 2: I think the difference is the person doing it, Like

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Speaker 2: if it's a PTE person, I believe it is.

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Speaker 1: It is the electricity with the they do that.

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Speaker 2: They do that, but I thought if it was if yeah,

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Speaker 2: they stick the needles in you just the same, there's

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Speaker 2: almost identical to the actual little electricity through it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, or they don't. It's they did.

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Speaker 2: So I feel like, and maybe I can google it

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Speaker 2: or maybe call you can what's the different between acupuncture

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Speaker 2: and dry needdling, because I feel it's the same thing.

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Speaker 2: It's the person that doesn't. If the person is an

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Speaker 2: Eastern medicine doctor, it's acupuncture. If it's a PETE person,

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Speaker 2: it's dry needdling. And one of them is illegal in

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Speaker 2: this state something like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah.

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Speaker 4: The place that I'm going to is like a Chinese ocupuncture.

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Speaker 2: There's keep in mind, you know, I'm only an expert

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Speaker 2: because they write about me the New York Post.

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Speaker 5: And they say though, like with the needles, like when

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Speaker 5: your body starts healing it, it'll push the needles out

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Speaker 5: of your body.

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Speaker 1: None of them pushed out of my bottle.

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Speaker 6: The main difference is that acupuncture is based on traditional

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Speaker 6: Chinese medicine, while dry needling is rooted in Western medicine principles.

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Speaker 4: So it's just like I'm also getting a foot reflex massage,

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Speaker 4: which I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: Reflexology, that's that. Yeah, yeah, so excited like this.

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Speaker 6: The acupuncture uses meridian lines to balance your body's energy

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Speaker 6: or your cheat to treat a variety of conditions, and

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Speaker 6: dry needling is targeted approach that inserts needles into like

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Speaker 6: myofacial trigger points in the muscles to relieve pain and

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Speaker 6: improof fund.

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Speaker 1: That's what I think you have. I had acupuncture. I

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Speaker 1: think your guy got it wrong.

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Speaker 6: It seems like the dry needling would work better for

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Speaker 6: you if you are trying to relieve pain and improve function.

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Speaker 2: But again, New York Post. Whatever I have, people says posts,

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Speaker 2: I'll go correct somebody that they do an exercise. Take

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Speaker 2: you yourroubles little bit.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, New York Posts.

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Speaker 5: They're reposting this article about you. Of course we can

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Speaker 5: all we can all join along. Of course I want

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Speaker 5: to read that. I want to hear what you said

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Speaker 5: and how it ended up in print, because I heard

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Speaker 5: some ridiculous things. Is it out?

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Speaker 1: Yes? Of course? Are you happy with it? You were

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Speaker 1: worried about ready yet? Oh I just heard it out?

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Speaker 1: Of course you. I'll post the link up there.

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Speaker 5: What you should do is copy and paste it into

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Speaker 5: chad GPT and say, tell me what's good about this article.

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Speaker 1: This guy's an idiot. Summarize it's John Jaye Ritch