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Speaker 1: Bad common then common man, no shore people, solid plant, spirit,

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Speaker 1: approach or failtery. It's time for common man, com man,

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Speaker 1: common man. Charge house was going again?

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Speaker 2: What should where we play? Now?

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Speaker 1: It's a nonsense.

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Speaker 3: I'm dectity today.

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Speaker 1: It's time for common man.

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Speaker 4: Why should anybody aspire to be a common man? An

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Speaker 4: average man? Do you realize what it means to be average?

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Speaker 4: That means you're the best of the lousiest and the

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Speaker 4: lousiest of the best. Now, if we demand more and

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Speaker 4: more for producing less and less while they have not,

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Speaker 4: nations encourage and inspire, and indeed require hard work and

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Speaker 4: maximum effort. If we deify the common man while they

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Speaker 4: encourage and reward the uncommon ones, well, the end result

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Speaker 4: of such a lopside embraces that is too obvious to

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Speaker 4: require elaborations.

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Speaker 2: Brilliant.

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Speaker 5: Out of hundreds of deals that I've done, all for

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Speaker 5: hundreds hundreds.

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Speaker 6: Welcome back to the spotlight, young man.

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Speaker 7: Rout.

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Speaker 2: You don't know nothing the bears or.

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Speaker 6: Who we thought they were, and that's why we took

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Speaker 6: the damn field. Now, if you want to crown them,

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Speaker 6: they crown your ass. But they are who we thought

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Speaker 6: they were, and we learn about the hook.

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Speaker 8: There's somewhere when you practice, you'll set up chairs there

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Speaker 8: you run through chairs with the shows.

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Speaker 3: The white depress looks work as chairs.

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Speaker 7: There is.

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Speaker 2: You say, glassy san Diego, I'm breaking up, Bob here

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Speaker 2: breaking damn dancer. Blurre you doing glitter?

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Speaker 3: You doing blitter? You're doing what?

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Speaker 8: How?

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Speaker 3: This appointing is at the black.

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Speaker 2: Were the state of hockey and I think that brows that.

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Speaker 2: So he's on a deep rock, stumps up in the pocket.

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Speaker 2: You'll fire to the right side, bomb my DAGs.

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Speaker 3: Stay, Oh my god, oh my god?

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Speaker 1: Are they.

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Speaker 2: Are you killing me? In the MIDI alway step on

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Speaker 2: jacks brack drop to do Saints.

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Speaker 5: That's a sixty yard.

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Speaker 2: Well that seems like a long time, you know.

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Speaker 7: To fo.

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Speaker 2: He's the clown from Brown, He's the fourth in the north.

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Speaker 2: This is the common man, Dan Cole. I think you

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Speaker 2: weren't there. You wouldn't go to a Viking stand. You're right,

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Speaker 2: I generally wouldn't.

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Speaker 8: But faith, family, fair ways, frequency, finances, friends. I actually

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Speaker 8: put finances ahead of friends. Sorry, I mean.

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Speaker 9: All for one and one for all you can That

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Speaker 9: only goes so far.

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Speaker 8: Man in the silk suit hurries by catches a poor

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Speaker 8: old lady's eye and just for funny, says, get a job.

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Speaker 8: Deuce wanted to go to the playoff game, Saints versus Vikings,

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Speaker 8: so I was able to come up with four tickets.

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Speaker 9: Decent seats.

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Speaker 2: You know, we were.

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Speaker 8: Middle not not lower bowl, not upper bowl. I guess

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Speaker 8: you'd call it middle Bowl. I think we were gosh,

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Speaker 8: I don't even remember. And we weren't fifty yard line,

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Speaker 8: but we weren't in the corner of the end zone either.

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Speaker 8: We had decent seats.

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Speaker 7: It was me.

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Speaker 9: Deuce is good pal, home, the home, the whole, the

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Speaker 9: old man Hone and and his boy.

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Speaker 2: We all went to the game.

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Speaker 8: Before of us, we took the neighbor and the neighbors

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Speaker 8: to the game, Trenton and Trenton he has a twin

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Speaker 8: brother named Ian and they both go to school. I

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Speaker 8: think Trenton's going.

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Speaker 2: To Iowa right now.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, And anyway, we went to the game, and Deuce

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Speaker 8: is right tendaby. Had had it been Deuce and I

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Speaker 8: not the neighbors with us, I would have left early.

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Speaker 8: I would have missed the Minneapoism miracles. I would have said, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, I always love that one.

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Speaker 9: This game's over. Let's let's let's beat the traffic, because.

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Speaker 8: If you remember it, it was I don't know if

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Speaker 8: it was a blizzard, but there was a pretty good

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Speaker 8: I guess we got to stay, and sure enough, there

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Speaker 2: The play happened so quickly.

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Speaker 8: It was hard to see even really what happened, even

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Speaker 8: And the Saints guy just blew it right and that

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Speaker 8: still don't know what he was doing. Yeah, he was

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Speaker 8: doing a camp dance. Wasn't playing the body, but he

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Speaker 8: couldn't get to the ball. Yeah, Kim dancer. He was

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Speaker 2: Yeah he was cam dancer. What are you doing?

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Speaker 8: This wasn't Detroit, went oh for the Saints, who would

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Speaker 8: be This isn't These aren't the Falcons, This isn't Charlotte. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: and so yeah, and then it all came crashing down.

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Speaker 8: The next the best part of that game was still

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Speaker 8: when one of the most unlikable figures in football, Sean Payton, yeah,

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Speaker 8: was mocking the school chant with you know, like minutes ago.

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Speaker 8: He looked back at the fans and he was doing

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Speaker 2: Game wrapped up. I literally thought about that moment Sunday

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Speaker 2: because they were playing the Chiefs on Sunday. The game

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Speaker 2: was tied and they had a game winning field goal.

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Speaker 2: As time experied before they kicked the field goal, Sean

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Speaker 2: Payton was just yucking it up on the sidelines as

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Speaker 2: if the game was already over him. Oh and I

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Speaker 2: had a flashback to Minneapolis Miracle when he was mocking

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Speaker 2: the skull chante. I was like, man, I really hope

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Speaker 2: they missed this kick, just because he's getting too cocky

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Speaker 8: But now he's got that Denver club and how much

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Speaker 8: credit he gets, I don't know, but there's a lot

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Speaker 2: He's got that Denver club.

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Speaker 9: Right where they need to be. Matter of fact, we're

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Speaker 9: going to take a look at before the programs over.

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Speaker 8: You know, me, Tenneby, why do we like list radio

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Speaker 8: Because it's lazy radio and we're lazy.

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Speaker 2: List radio.

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Speaker 8: I love when they when they put out the power rankings.

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Speaker 8: So we'll take a look at that as the afternoon progresses.

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Speaker 8: We're here until two. The legendary Mark Rosen will join

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Speaker 8: us just before one o'clock. We'll get his thoughts on

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Speaker 8: on the Vikings and what transpired this past weekend at

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Speaker 8: the Bank where the Vikings basically had victory snap from

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Speaker 8: the jaws of defeat or was it defeats and whatever

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Speaker 8: the case may be. When they had they they drove

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Speaker 8: up the fifty Yeah, there was a fifty six yard

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Speaker 8: kick kickoff returned to DuVernay Pro Bowl kid, and that

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Speaker 8: basically put him in field goal range. And I don't

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Speaker 8: think Ben Johnson was yucking it up on the sideline

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Speaker 8: because with his with his kicker, I don't know if

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Speaker 8: I trust that kid.

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Speaker 9: But he made it and that was that was the

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Speaker 9: end of that.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I don't know.

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Speaker 9: I'm almost and this will probably be a relief for

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Speaker 9: a lot of people.

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Speaker 8: I think I feel like I've spent more time talking

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Speaker 8: about JJ McCarthy on the radio than anything else that

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Speaker 8: we've talked about in maybe forever.

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Speaker 9: Because he's he just he's supposed to be the franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 9: It hasn't worked so far. It's only five games, but

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Speaker 9: it's just been so.

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Speaker 2: Ugly.

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Speaker 9: I guess is the best way to put it.

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Speaker 8: That you just you find yourself or you know, rolling

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Speaker 8: your eyes, shrugging your shoulders and shaking your head. Here's

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Speaker 8: somebody that sent a text message to to me that says,

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Speaker 8: have we ever tried to listen to the radio call

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Speaker 8: for the Saints on.

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Speaker 9: The Minneapolis Miracle? Would that kill a segment?

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Speaker 2: Or you think it wasn't?

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Speaker 8: I wonder if we could find that anywhere, if that's

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Speaker 8: impossible to find, because that the the calls of the

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Speaker 8: games when you win are always great, right, I mean

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Speaker 8: you know, I mean maybe the best of all times

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Speaker 8: when Holy Cross the golfers. We played that all the time.

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Speaker 8: I mean, those guys are screaming at the top of

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Speaker 9: One guy is starting to blubber.

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Speaker 8: We play it all the time during matter of fact,

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Speaker 8: at the very end of the show, don't we isn't

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Speaker 8: that the guy that says and good night Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that the Holy Crosscross? Holy Cross. Yeah, that's the

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Speaker 2: Holy Cross game.

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Speaker 8: So the wins are always fun to listen to, but

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Speaker 8: the losses the devastating law well, you know, I mean

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Speaker 8: my favorite I don't know if it's my favorite.

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Speaker 2: PA call, but the no game when the uh, I've

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Speaker 2: got it right here?

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Speaker 10: You do?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Well it says it's three minutes long. Do you

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Speaker 9: Yeah, let's go aead, do it all right?

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Speaker 5: Third and ten from the Viking, thirty nine precious seconds

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Speaker 5: left on the clock, the Vikings state of completion and

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Speaker 5: an apparent field goal attempt. Here's keenan dropping looking throwing

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Speaker 5: near sideline minutes clock by step on the Digs.

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Speaker 3: Who's gonna take it inside?

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Speaker 5: At fifteen ten five touch down on the final play

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Speaker 5: of this game?

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Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? You know, he could have came

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Speaker 3: up and just tackled him.

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Speaker 2: He stuck, put his.

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Speaker 3: Head down, and he didn't step out of bounce. Then

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Speaker 3: they're gonna review it.

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Speaker 7: But he didn't step out of bound sixty one yard

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Speaker 7: touchdown strife. The step on Higgs almost looked like the

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Speaker 7: Saints defender straight up with an intent to.

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Speaker 3: Intercept the pass.

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Speaker 5: Instead, they couldn't get their hands on this.

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Speaker 3: If I right into there was a step on the Higgs,

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Speaker 3: the prerequirt he didn't view it looked like it, but

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Speaker 3: he never stepped out. Marcus william just he ducked his head.

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Speaker 3: He ducked his head. That's fall game, man. He just

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Speaker 3: ducked his head. He didn't even have to duck it.

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Speaker 3: Just come up and make the tackle.

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Speaker 2: It's all you have to do.

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Speaker 3: Just come up and make the tackle. He tried to

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Speaker 3: the keel shot.

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Speaker 5: Wow case keenan when his hands out scratched. Accepting the

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Speaker 5: products of these fans as well, he should Marcus Williams

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Speaker 5: doesn't enough devastation.

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Speaker 2: With that said, it's to be a much much different call.

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Speaker 2: Pia was making this call.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, these guys seem to have a grip on reality

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Speaker 8: and they realized it's just a game.

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Speaker 9: It's not the end of the world, our national treasure.

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Speaker 3: I mean it, just wrap them up. All you got

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Speaker 3: to do is just tackling.

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Speaker 2: That's all you gotta do.

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Speaker 3: No more time on the clock, Just up and tackling.

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Speaker 3: He goes in for the kill shot. You can't allow

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Speaker 10: Just just come up and tackle him, Just tackle him.

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Speaker 10: He need one for the kill shots, not at all. Yeah,

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Speaker 10: there's not enough devastations running it down. Yeah, it's just disappointing.

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Speaker 9: I don't hold it against anybody for leaving any sporting

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Speaker 9: It's just sports, sports, sports, if your whole life is

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Speaker 8: I'm not saying should arrested. That I respect him for it.

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Speaker 7: Who?

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Speaker 2: We have? Major League Volleyball is coming to Grand Casino

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Speaker 2: You can learn more at Mlvminnesota dot com. Name, logo, colors,

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Speaker 8: This text messager says pro volleyball is very big outside

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Speaker 2: We had it on.

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Speaker 8: I mean it wasn't like I was pacing back and

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Speaker 2: I I don't know, there's eight other teams right now

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Speaker 9: Mister Mojo's rising.

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Speaker 8: Now it seems like two when when when these new

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Speaker 9: No, you couldn't have, because nobody plays faster than I too.

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Speaker 9: They weren't even on.

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Speaker 2: Sixteen green yet. So sorry, man, you know you wouldn't

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Speaker 2: You wouldn't even know I'd finished playing golf at that point.

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of people did on that one.

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Speaker 8: Writing staff or the contributors at their very best. I

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Speaker 9: be kind of fun.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to.

449
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Speaker 8: That controversial of Vikings news on the other side of

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Speaker 8: the break. We'll take a look at that, and then

451
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Speaker 8: we'll welcome Mark Rosen into the conversation.

452
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Speaker 2: Just before too right here on the fans, caff Fan

453
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Speaker 2: and the Vikings are teaming up for Toys for Tots.

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Speaker 2: Join us live at Shields and Eden Prairie on Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: December second from five to thirty am to six thirty

456
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Speaker 2: pm for our annual broadcast presented by Unreal. Bring a toy,

457
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Speaker 2: spread some joy, and if you're one of the first

458
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Speaker 2: fifty donors each show, you'll score a sweet Kfan Unreal

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Speaker 2: Winter beanie. Details of kafan dot com slash Toys what's

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Speaker 2: the name of the place again? That would be a

461
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Speaker 2: Toys for Tots for doing it live at Shields and

462
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Speaker 2: needing Prairie day. Would that be Tuesday, December second, all

463
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Speaker 2: day too, or at five thirty to six thirty pm. Yeah,

464
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Speaker 2: something from the unreal basically six to seven.

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Speaker 8: Now it's five thirty, but basically six and then six

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Speaker 8: thirty seven. Basically six seven God, because the powers are

467
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Speaker 8: blocked to be there early to set up. Yeah, so

468
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Speaker 8: six seven, okay, enough for six seven.

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Speaker 2: I had something.

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Speaker 9: Happened to me last night that's never happened before. Maybe

471
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Speaker 9: it hasn't. I just was aware of it, so I know.

472
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Speaker 2: I had what I thought was a.

473
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Speaker 9: A furnace emergency.

474
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Speaker 8: My wife was washing dishes and I was doing the

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Speaker 8: Crosswood puzzle, just another you know average It's a Tuesday

476
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Speaker 8: and Monday night at thirteen fourteen insane Lane Deuce was

477
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Speaker 8: gaming doing Dude bro Bro Dude, Dude bro Bro Dude

478
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 8: and baby brother Peter called us last night from the

479
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Speaker 8: and we talked last night. He's coming home for Thanksgiving.

480
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 8: Guess what He's coming home on Friday. Oh, he's coming

481
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Speaker 8: home a little bit early. His last class I think

482
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Speaker 8: is today our last test, and then he's just got

483
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Speaker 8: clear sailing.

484
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Speaker 9: The rest of the week. He's flying into town. It'll

485
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Speaker 9: be good to see him.

486
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 2: But we're watching. All of a sudden we hear.

487
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Speaker 8: Something clank, and my wife goes, what's that? And it

488
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 8: sounded like it came from the garage. And I just

489
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Speaker 8: spent time this weekend in the garage. I'm I'm down, said,

490
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Speaker 8: you know, we're we're putting in our house on the

491
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Speaker 8: market this spring. I'm trying to get rid of things.

492
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Speaker 8: So I redid the garage and I'm getting rid of

493
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Speaker 8: some stuff and blatta lah. Anyways, go out there, don't

494
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 8: see anything. My wife goes downstairs, and all of a sudden,

495
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Speaker 8: she goes, oh my gosh, she calls me down there.

496
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 9: The furnace. There's a I don't understand that all.

497
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 8: But the furnace. There's some where you have to replace

498
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Speaker 8: a water filter on the furnace. Don't ask me to

499
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Speaker 8: explain it. I don't know how it works. I don't

500
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Speaker 8: know if it's if it's the humidifier system or whatever

501
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:32,120
Speaker 8: it is. Well, I had change the flap in there

502
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Speaker 8: from the winter from the summer mode to the winter mode,

503
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Speaker 8: and I must not have put the cover, the plast

504
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 8: to cover that snaps into place in firmly enough, because

505
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 8: the thing had come out and water was everywhere on

506
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Speaker 8: the floor down there, and there's water everywhere, and it

507
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 8: looks like it's coming out of all kinds of different places.

508
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 9: So my wife says, maybe we ought to call a

509
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 9: repair place and see if they'll come on.

510
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 8: I'll cost extra money, and they charge you three hundred

511
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 8: dollars after hours, right just to come out and look

512
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Speaker 8: at it.

513
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Speaker 5: Right.

514
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 8: So I said, yeah, maybe we better. It might this

515
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 8: might there might be a bigger that might not be

516
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 8: the only issue. And I don't want the furnace to

517
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Speaker 8: short circuit start the house on fire. Right, And remember

518
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Speaker 8: I'm not very good at any of these things.

519
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Speaker 2: I can't do this.

520
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,120
Speaker 8: And I can't call Carl at ten thirty or eleven

521
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Speaker 8: o'clock at night and have them come over look at

522
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Speaker 8: my furnace.

523
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Speaker 9: That's my neighbor, Carl, who does all my handiwork for me.

524
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 8: So I call the place and I get the answering service,

525
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 8: and after they answered the phone, I said, you're not

526
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Speaker 8: a real person, are.

527
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 2: You, And AI that was said, no, I'm not.

528
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 9: But I can still help you.

529
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 2: I'm with you.

530
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Speaker 8: It's really hard to talk to what is basically an

531
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Speaker 8: inadamate object, right. I just found it was so uncomfortable

532
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 8: for me. I guess I'm gonna have to get used

533
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Speaker 8: to it, because I think that is.

534
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Speaker 2: The way of the world.

535
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Speaker 8: Right, that they're not going to pay some but fifteen

536
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Speaker 8: dollars an hour to answer the phone in the middle

537
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 8: of the night at an answering service.

538
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 9: They're going to use artificial intelligence.

539
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 8: And just the voice was so sing songy, and you know,

540
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 8: it sounded realistic obviously, but I could tell right away

541
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 8: that it wasn't a real person, and they admitted it

542
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 8: because I pause, and I said, such a stupid question.

543
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 2: I said, you're not a.

544
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 8: Real person, are you? And AI said, no, I'm not,

545
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 8: but I can still help you. So then I ordered

546
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Speaker 8: the emergency service. Then I went back down and said,

547
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Speaker 8: there's nothing wrong here, and I called them back and

548
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 8: it was the same person.

549
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 9: They had a fake name, I think it was, I

550
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 9: don't know. I think it was Kathy.

551
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 8: He actually used a regular, a human name, And I said,

552
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 8: I want to cancel. Okay, we can do that for you.

553
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 8: I said, now, when I canceled, You're not going to

554
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 8: charge me the trip money, now, are you? No, you

555
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 8: will not be charged the trip money as long as

556
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 8: you've canceled. Thank you very much and have a great day.

557
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 8: But it was just have you had to deal with

558
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 8: talking with an A and I just you know.

559
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Speaker 2: I mean, I knew it wasn't like an AI. It

560
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 2: was more just a computerize version. But okay, there comes

561
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 2: a point where I had one where I just kept

562
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 2: getting like recycled through right, like you if you want

563
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 2: to do this option one, if you want to do

564
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 2: this option two, And I would click option five and

565
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 2: it would end up not turning out and it would

566
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Speaker 2: send me right back to the beginning every time, right,

567
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 2: And I just want to talk to a live person.

568
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 2: That's all I want to do. I just want to

569
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Speaker 2: talk to human being. Yeah, but they, but they, they they.

570
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Speaker 8: And I and I guess I understand it because it

571
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 8: must be less expensive. Well I've heard or run AI

572
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 8: it costs a fortune because there's so much power put

573
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Speaker 8: into it.

574
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 9: You know what I'm saying. There's so much electricity being used.

575
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 9: So I don't understand that all.

576
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Speaker 8: But yeah, I just I was crushfalling because I felt

577
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 8: like you're there's and there's nothing you can do about it.

578
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 8: If you want the service done, you have to talk

579
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Speaker 8: to somebody that's not real person. And so I had

580
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Speaker 8: to do it, and I was glad I cancel because

581
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Speaker 8: I don't want to talk to I.

582
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Speaker 2: Would you like an Ai version of Tennabe for when

583
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 2: I'm not able to join you on some days?

584
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Speaker 8: I thought they I thought this was already a Tennabe,

585
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 8: an AI version of Tennabe, you know. I I guess

586
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 8: we could try it.

587
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 2: I mean, the Morning Show does like the meat sauce robot,

588
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 2: do they? That's pretty good.

589
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 9: I guess we could try something like that.

590
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 2: But I'm not. I'm just not.

591
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 9: I just it was. It was demoralizing for me, and

592
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Speaker 9: I don't know why, but I just didn't.

593
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't like it much at all.

594
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 8: I have a question for you regarding the Vikings and

595
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 8: the quarterback situation, and we sort of talked a little

596
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 8: bit about it.

597
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 2: I think the other day.

598
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 8: Vikings are at Green Bay this week to take on

599
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 8: and I can't find anybody anywhere.

600
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 9: That's picking the Vikings.

601
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 8: Not always every single website I go to where they

602
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 8: pull their staff writers. It's all one, picking Green Bay,

603
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 8: there's nobody even going I'll be a little bit different here.

604
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 8: I'll go ahead and take the Vikings on this one.

605
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 8: There's nobody doing that, and for good reason.

606
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 2: This is sort of.

607
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Speaker 9: What if the Vikings were to get out to a

608
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 9: two zero lead? Kind of a question, right, what if?

609
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 8: What if McCarthy's even And I don't know if this

610
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 8: is possible, but what if he's even worse at Curly

611
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 8: than he was this past Sunday? Take away that last

612
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 8: drive where he's overthrowing wide receivers against Do you go doors?

613
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 8: Do you go to Brosmer? I mean, can the coach

614
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 8: actually say, I know this is our future. We don't

615
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 8: want to shatter the kid's confidence, even if he hasn't

616
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Speaker 8: and it sounds like he does, even though he hasn't

617
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 8: played very well. Do you go to Brosmer? Or you

618
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 8: just saying no, we have to continue to force feed

619
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Speaker 8: the kid because he is. We've kind of hitched our

620
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 8: wagon too, this kid. I mean, we traded up to

621
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,719
Speaker 8: get him at number ten, went from eleven to ten,

622
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 8: didn't go very far, but we traded up to get them.

623
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 8: We let a potent Now I know Donald was awful

624
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 8: against the Rams this week and I and there's the

625
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 8: Donald haters are just so excited about that. Still want

626
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 8: to see Sam Donald in a biking uniform? Well, yeah,

627
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 8: I guess I would. All quarterbacks are going to have

628
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 8: poor games, right, Matt Stafford had a.

629
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 2: Poor Lamar Jackson even though they won, Lamar Jackson.

630
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 3: Didn't have a good game.

631
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:25,959
Speaker 2: That's exactly right.

632
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 8: It Even Caleb Williams who won, he had the same

633
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 8: exact sixteen for thirty two, exactly what McCarthy did.

634
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 2: He wasn't that now he had he had some bad

635
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 2: drops on his side too.

636
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 9: But he was also saying they were both sixteen for

637
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 9: three two, but they did win.

638
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 2: Can you do that?

639
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 8: Can you go to Brosmer and you know, I mean

640
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 8: we've seen it happen before. We're quarterbacks. Didn't you bring

641
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 8: up somebody or was it a listener that brought because

642
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 8: we talked a little bit about it yesterday where some

643
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 8: team had their new franchise quarterback and they actually pulled

644
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 8: him for a few games and then put them.

645
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 2: By the Carolina ended with Bryce Yep last year. Now,

646
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 2: in their situation, I don't know if that was the

647
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 2: right idea, just because you know, the Carolina Panthers last year,

648
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 2: other than other than Adam Thielen, the expectations of them

649
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 2: making a big game were very, very low, so when

650
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 2: they were in rebuild mode. So I don't know why

651
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 2: they pulled the trigger to try to get you the

652
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 2: win quick. Andy Dalton on your side, but he did

653
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 2: come back later in the year, played better towards the

654
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 2: end of the year. This year, I would say he's

655
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 2: been mediocre at best, but they have a winning record

656
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 2: and he did perform well in their last game. But

657
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 2: regarding Brosburg, they are getting awfully close now to the

658
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 2: point where the season is not going to matter, So

659
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 2: why pull McCarthy. You're getting to the point where, like, well,

660
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 2: you just play McCarthy because you want to get him

661
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 2: as many reps as possible. Right, you go to Brosmer

662
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 2: if you think you can still salvage the season, and

663
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 2: I guess at four and six you can still salvage

664
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 2: the season, but you're not that far away now from

665
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 2: that season becoming unsalvagable, right Yeah. I mean, like I said,

666
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 2: they got to go ten and one or excuse me,

667
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Speaker 2: six and one the rest of the way, and even

668
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Speaker 2: that might not get you in.

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Speaker 9: Alan Lewis writes for The Athletic.

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Speaker 2: But if they do it again, and they gotta be

671
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Speaker 2: green Bay, because you're gonna get to the point now

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Speaker 2: where you won't be able to pass Green Bay, you

673
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Speaker 2: won't be able to pass Chicago.

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Speaker 8: And well that's why I wonder if if if if

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Speaker 8: he I guess, if you're you're doing it. You want

676
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Speaker 8: to look at Brosmer.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I guess if you're down thirty nothing, then it

678
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Speaker 9: doesn't matter.

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Speaker 8: But you know, what if what if they're just the

680
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 8: defense is keeping green Bay at Bay part in the

681
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Speaker 8: pun for the most part.

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Speaker 9: But McCarthy's terrible.

683
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Speaker 8: You're down sixteen to three in the third car, yeah,

684
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Speaker 8: or you know, and he does another three and out

685
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Speaker 8: where he overthrows Jefferson again and Jefferson slams his helmet

686
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Speaker 8: on a the equipment box.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what can you would the coach do that?

688
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Speaker 8: If you'll remember, he was asked immediately following the game

689
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Speaker 8: in the news conference, was there any thought of going

690
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Speaker 8: to Brosemar. He goes, I'm not going to talk about that.

691
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Speaker 8: I don't want to go there. He did not want

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Speaker 8: to discuss that, and almost as if and I don't

693
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Speaker 8: know if that meant he he might have been thinking

694
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Speaker 8: about it but didn't want to admit that he was

695
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Speaker 8: thinking about it, or if almost that's a that's a

696
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 8: terrible question, because we're not going to go in another direction.

697
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Speaker 9: We're going to keep it with the car.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what it means. Well, it's hard to

699
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Speaker 2: know what they how they feel about Brosmer right too,

700
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Speaker 2: that's the other aspect. I mean, they did go and

701
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Speaker 2: get Carson Wentz before the season began, so obviously they

702
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 2: didn't think Brozmer could be the number two immediately. But

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Speaker 2: I if they think there's a long term future in

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Speaker 2: brozmern if it's the old I'd like to get a

705
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Speaker 2: look at him, see what he can do. This one says,

706
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Speaker 2: are we forgetting?

707
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Speaker 8: The Vikings beat the Lions at Detroit and the Packers

708
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Speaker 8: almost just lost to the Giants.

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Speaker 2: What are we doing here?

710
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Speaker 8: I think what this text message is saying this season

711
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Speaker 8: isn't they're not out of it yet?

712
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Speaker 2: Now again at four and six and the Bears that

713
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Speaker 2: I didn't say they were out of it now, I'm

714
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Speaker 2: just saying they're getting close to being out of it. No, No,

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Speaker 2: I don't think he was Okay, I'm not he wasn't.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he was.

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Speaker 9: He was responding to you.

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Speaker 2: I think he was just saying. I think he suggesting

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Speaker 2: you you almost have to put Brosman.

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Speaker 3: Got it.

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Speaker 8: If if if you're still in the game against Green Bay,

722
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Speaker 8: you're not this weekend and Brose.

723
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Speaker 9: McCarthy's playing poorly, that you that you have to go

724
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Speaker 9: with them.

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Speaker 2: Here's one that says.

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Speaker 8: This coach could not handle Brozemer coming in and looking functional.

727
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Speaker 8: He and his GM are so in love with McCarthy

728
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Speaker 8: that they cannot even try what the forty nine ers

729
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Speaker 8: did by giving a lot to draft Lance at fourth

730
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Speaker 8: or overaw and admitting the last pick in the draft

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Speaker 8: is their best option ahead of time.

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Speaker 9: Garoppolo, who had been to I don't know. He's just.

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Speaker 8: I don't understand what he's I think he's texting, and

734
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Speaker 8: it's something getting lost in the translation. I think he's

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Speaker 8: saying that he doesn't think that because the GM and

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Speaker 8: the head coach are tied to this guy, and he's

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Speaker 8: supposed to be your franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Specifically the coach even more so than the GM. Right,

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Speaker 2: he's been called the quarterback whisperer, Right, I'm guessing he

740
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Speaker 2: had a pretty darn strong hand in whether they went

741
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Speaker 2: and got McCarthy or not. Right Like, I don't think

742
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Speaker 2: that's all crazy. Just here, I'm gonna drap McCarthy do

743
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Speaker 2: with him. You know, he's getting a ton of input.

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Speaker 2: That was probably Koc's guy, well other than Drake May apparently,

745
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Speaker 2: So that would be a hit to Koc's eagle ego.

746
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Speaker 2: To the guy you handpicked, the guy that you're supposed

747
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Speaker 2: to be quarterback, whisper for and developed, you didn't do it.

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Speaker 8: This one says, I don't get the coddling with Cousins

749
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Speaker 8: and McCarthy. This regime is terrified of having a QB competition.

750
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Speaker 8: I think this coach would rather see McCarthy struggled and

751
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 8: Brozemer come in and have some success and then have

752
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Speaker 8: a legitimate QB competition. I can't believe that this was

753
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 8: a close competition last year between him and Darnald. We

754
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 8: were told all off season that McCarthy was ready and

755
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 8: he was our guy, even though we flirted with hold On.

756
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Speaker 8: We flirted with all three options in Jones, Donald and Rogers.

757
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Speaker 8: And this one says what happens when Brosmer looks just

758
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Speaker 8: as bad or worse than McCarthy, not if when I

759
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Speaker 8: suppose that's possible, I mean, because if you know, with McCarthy,

760
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Speaker 8: there's a track record of success on the high school

761
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Speaker 8: and college level, not so much with Brozmer.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 8: I'm sure he was a good high school quarterback, probably

764
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Speaker 8: won a lot of games, and I don't know how

765
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Speaker 8: well they did in New Hampshire.

766
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Speaker 9: He had a nice senior season with Minnesota. But yeah,

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Speaker 9: I mean I would just think.

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Speaker 8: Oh, he had a really good year in New Hampshire

769
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Speaker 8: in the transfer portal, so he so, but I don't

770
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Speaker 8: know if that translates that he would be ready to

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Speaker 8: step up into the uh.

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Speaker 2: Well, the other the other aspect of this is you've

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Speaker 2: uh regurgitated this line many times before from Koc. It's

774
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Speaker 2: not the quarterback, what is it? And it's not the

775
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 2: quarterback that lets down the the organization. It's the organization

776
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 2: that lets down the quarterback. What's that? What's that phrase

777
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Speaker 2: that Koc said that you used to quote all the time,

778
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 2: basically like a young quarterback fall failing as well? Oh yeah,

779
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 2: just as much on the organization.

780
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Speaker 8: An organization fails a young quarterback more than a young

781
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Speaker 8: quarterback fails.

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Speaker 2: So by going to Brozemer in week eleven of year two,

783
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 2: but actual year one of him playing, you'd have to

784
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 2: be pretty much dead set on. Hey, this, he's not

785
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 2: the guy, this one says.

786
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Speaker 8: Anybody that thinks this team was actually a big game

787
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 8: contender has been drinking the purple kool aid far too long.

788
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 8: If they kept Darnald, it wouldn't have had money to

789
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 8: make improvements that they did this season. So even if

790
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 8: you had an you wouldn't be getting close to a

791
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Speaker 8: big game yet. Over it, move on and let JJ develop.

792
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Speaker 8: What if JJ doesn't develop? There are too many people

793
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 8: that are acting like it's a sure thing. He's going

794
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 8: to develop and you just got to give him time.

795
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Speaker 8: Might be a game, might be the rest of the season,

796
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Speaker 8: might be three seasons from Noladies, We.

797
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Speaker 2: Don't know that.

798
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Speaker 8: And also that's that's wrong about the improvements we made,

799
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Speaker 8: the money we spent. We've gotten very few contributions from

800
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 8: the two that now. The one guy in the interior

801
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 8: the defensive line has played well the last few weeks.

802
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 2: Which one is that?

803
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Speaker 1: Is that?

804
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Speaker 8: The Javon, Yeah, he's played, he's played pretty well. He's

805
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 8: starting to the offensive. The center hasn't played at all

806
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 8: because of concussions. The guard, I guess it has been okay,

807
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 8: so he's been fine, but I don't know if he's

808
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 8: been you know, Pro Bowl esque. And the other defensive

809
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 8: guy hasn't really done that much, So that's flawed. It's

810
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 8: we didn't make any improvements in the interior year of

811
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 8: the offensive line or defense, like, not anything. I don't

812
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 8: think to a large degree, I don't think. And you

813
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 8: got to pay for your quarterback. Let's say McCarthy does

814
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 8: develop and in four years you're going to have to

815
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Speaker 8: give him a big dealer. Are you gonna let him

816
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Speaker 8: go by the wayside and start over again? It's just

817
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Speaker 8: And then one last thing I wanted to touch on

818
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Speaker 8: was speaking of Alec Lewis. He wrote for the He

819
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Speaker 8: writes for The Athletic. He wrote today can vikings QB

820
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Speaker 8: JJ McCarthy eventually turned it around a La Panther's QB

821
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Speaker 8: Bryce Young and I think you said it best as

822
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Speaker 8: we were talking about Bryce a little elier. Well, he

823
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Speaker 8: hasn't really turned it around. He had a really great

824
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Speaker 8: game last week, and he's had some okay games. It's

825
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Speaker 8: either six and five. But he hasn't turned into any

826
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Speaker 8: kind of Pro Bowl quarterbock.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. It's as someone says, the

828
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Speaker 2: prize has been good.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, he's been good. But has he been good at

830
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Speaker 9: the amount of money they're paying him?

831
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Speaker 8: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Let's take a break and come back, Mark Rose and

833
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Speaker 2: joins us next here on the Common Van program on

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Speaker 2: the Fan